1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: You gotta love a cigar with purpose, really art with purpose, 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: like a focus and a vision. And that's what comes 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: from this from Ronesto Perez Carreo. This is the battle Born. 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: It's he drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz and that right 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: there is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy Forged in strength, 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: built for honor. What was that designed to perform? It's 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: a little hard to read there in the gold printing 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: on the green label, but this is a nod to 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: the military because over there Careo they have got a 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: guy by the name of Lionel McCoy who spent two 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: decades in the military, and so they got with him 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: he works at Coreo, and said, hey, let's design something 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: that is for the soldiers. And this is what they 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: came up with, a Connecticut broadleaf wrapper, which I do 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: love Mexicans. He and Andreas in the binder nik when 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: in the filler it comes in one size. It's a 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: six by fifty six, which means it's six inches long. 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: Tea always makes Fingersilloy laugh. And the ring age is 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: a fifty six. The diameter of the cigar, or how 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: thick it is around me tee again with the laughter. 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: So fifty four is really the top of where I 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: like to be in terms of comfort. But wanted to 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: give this a try. And that is it's not a 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: saddle leather. It's not a luxurious rapper. It's not even 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a question of whether or not the rapper is rich. 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't have that darkness, it doesn't have that oily sheen. 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: This this cigar looks like it could punch you in 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: the face and then make fun of your sister fingers looy. 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: That's the it's it's not pretty, and I don't mind that. 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you want to talk about oily 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: or the look or the modeled black no, no, no, 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: this looks almost like a matte finish on a cigar. 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: That's fair. But what as far as the look of 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: the cigar. If you're saying that the wrapper isn't the 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: most pleasing, yeah, that you saw where I was gonna 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: go with this. The band is beautiful. So the band 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: is done in gold and green, right in military green. 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: It is a little it's a little hard to read. 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you right now, maybe this is my 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: humidor I don't know if yours is mine's dry, and 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the way I bought it 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: or what have you. I mean, I've got everything in 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: my humid or, but right now it's a little bit dry. 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: Do not be alarmed. It might smoke just fine, don't freak, 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: don't lose your head, but it should when you feel 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: something like that in a cigar. Just take a look 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: at everything. Make sure you've got your distilled water, and 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: they're always distilled water in your humid or. Otherwise you'll 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: get a mold issue or use one of those packs, 50 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: whether it's from bovedas I Car, wherever it may be. 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: They're not sponsors. We just think the product does a 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: good work. Fingers, I'm about to light mine up. You've 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: just lit this up where well, First of all, the 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: draw was a little tight. 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: But because you mentioned that it is dry, and I 56 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: noticed that as well, I was a little hesitant to 57 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: do the old pinchion roll right. 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: That's where you put it between your thumb and your 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: point your finger. You just roll it back and forth, 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: that's all. 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: But I was worried that may crack the wrapper, so 62 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: I avoided doing that, and it actually the draw is 63 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: much easier now and it's I believe where it should 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: be nice, pleasant smoke coming off of this. There's a 65 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: richness to this, you know, rich tobacco note and then 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of chocolate, not getting a whole 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: heck of a lot of spice off of this stick. 68 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: So, by the way, that is a great example of 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: don't get into too many bad habits. The cigar is 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: draw It's like, oh, it's gonna be a problem. You 71 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: used to a cigar is a little more spongy, feel 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: a little more give to it. So you start rolling 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: it the first You don't know what the problem is. 74 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: You don't know if there's gonna be a problem. Don't 75 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: prethink that, which is what you did. You're like, I 76 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: see X that it's dry, but I'm not going to 77 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: prejudge what might happen. And now he's smoking a beautifully 78 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: well crafted cigar. Excellent work. Fingers more, thank you. 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: I did not pull out my jump to conclusions, Matt. 80 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, Thank goodness. Get your notebooks out, pull those out. 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: What did you eat today? What did you drink today? 82 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: It's all going to go down in the notebook. And 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: the weather. The weather is suck in Indianapolis, Indiana. I 84 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: believe that's a technical term, fingers moloon. 85 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: Yes, it goes. It's actually scientific. We use it a 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: lot over at the Fingers Maloy Institute for Institutes of Institutes. 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: Right right, So there's cold, there's really cold. There's what's 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: happening here There sucks, and there's I'm moving. We're just 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: about to the I'm moving stage of cold weather in 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 1: the Midwest. 91 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had a lot of snow, a little ice 92 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: in the morning. Sometimes we're having foggy mornings when it's 93 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: fifteen degrees outside. Just crap weather altogether. 94 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Yes, So for everybody listening on WDBO in Orlando, we 95 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: never liked you. Thank you. If everybody listening in Anchorage, 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: We're sorry, we're complaining. We'll stop now. So, yeah, I 97 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: think you're right. Smoking the Ernesta Perez Creo ep Coreo 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: the battle Born. Uh, if there is a spice, it 99 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: is it is from the wood flavoring that that I'm 100 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: getting right there. There definitely is a tobacco forward in this. 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I would say that that's an accurate uh this description, 102 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: Uh from this cigar. There's also and it's gonna you're 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: thinking gonna sound weird. I don't mean to sound weird. 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: There's something fruity going on. 105 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: Okay, there's dark fruit a pair is it is it? 106 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Is it a pear or is it more dark fruit 107 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: like a like a a prune. 108 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: First of all, I would go more with a plum. 109 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: It's it says if the richness is a bit acidic. 110 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Oh God, that sounded pretentious as hell. And I had 111 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: my hand like on my cheek like I'm Jack Benny. 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: By the way, you kids under fifty, asked Jeeves, Jack Benny. 113 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: I almost did a whole Rochester thing. Uh so, yeah, 114 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: it's so so you're there's a little bit, there's a 115 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: sweet and then there's a spice, which both could come 116 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: from that idea. So I'm not sure yet. As I 117 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: just lit this up. The feel of this is right. 118 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: The look of this, as I said, is is is 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: like this this matt uh brown. It's it's just it's 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: it's it's not shimmery, it's not shining. You don't feel it. 121 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: There's no grit, but there are on the on the wrapper, 122 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: but there's it's not smooth either. You know, you'd almost 123 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: expect this to be like a military cigar right forward 124 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: coming at you. This is what we do. And if 125 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: you don't like it, that's all right, We're still gonna 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: take your land. It's like like that's it's like patent. 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: If he were going to smoke a cigar, this would 128 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: be it right here, right it is. It is very 129 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: very straightforward. But it does have a little it does 130 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: have a little kick, It does have a little touch 131 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: there of something that that is. Is it smooth? Is 132 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: it just is it just shaving off the edges right now? 133 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's too harsh, just just a little. 134 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: I just wish you could retrohale, because did you just 135 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: do it? Yeah? 136 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: And that's moving the smoke out through the nostrils where 137 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: you have a lot more flavor receptors. 138 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: I almost get a little bit of floral when I 139 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: do that. But I notice when I retrohale a lot, 140 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: I get a little bit of a floral note that 141 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: I don't get when I'm normally smoking, because I don't 142 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: normally retrohal unless I do a review. 143 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: But you don't retrohale, So I know if I did, 144 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: I would immediately die. I would be dead, and then 145 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: it would be eat, drink, smoke with finger. There's malloy 146 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: and guest and son Jack Benny Fingers malloy, is this 147 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: in your Humidor for twenty three dollars a step. 148 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to get much more into the first third, 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: end of the second third, and maybe the final third. 150 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, proceeds from this go to a 151 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: place called Fisherhouse Foundation. A portion of every cigar goes 152 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: to that. So it's a little bit of a charitable 153 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: love fest. And fine, yes, it's in my humid Or. 154 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: See that career. We love you that much. The Battleborn 155 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: they call it the Battleborne Warrior. You want to check 156 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: that out, Grab one smoke along with us. Let us 157 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: know what you think. So Black Friday has come in. 158 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: It is gone yet somehow you can still get all 159 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: the Black Friday deals like they're everywhere. It started three 160 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: months ago. You can still get there. There was Independence 161 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: Day and then July fifth it was Black Friday, and 162 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: the deal are still there, except some of them made 163 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: people unhappy. Tony Katz Fingers Bloy, it's eat, drink, smoke. 164 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Good to be with you find it all wherever it is. 165 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: You get your favorite podcasts. Wherever did you get your podcasts? 166 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe to Eat, Drink Smoke. You found 167 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: the story fingers bloyant that Target has angered the customers. 168 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: They are upset, they are going to riot. Things are 169 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: going to get ugly. 170 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: Well, this already happened, Tony. They were already. They were 171 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: already angry because, as you know, Tony, one of my 172 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: passions in life is to monitor social media outrage. 173 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: Ellen, does it better? 174 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: Thank you so much so? Black Friday Target, Yes. One 175 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: of the promotions that they had was offering the first 176 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: one hundred shoppers who entered its store at six am 177 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: a complimentary swag bag containing free items. It also said 178 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: that one of these bags contained an extra prize, valued 179 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: at night or more. The prize could be a ninja 180 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: slushy Love. 181 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: Me and Ninja slushy. You're gonna get two of them, 182 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: aren't you? 183 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: Yes, one for each hand, Beats headphones okay again, one 184 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: for each hand, maybe a one gift card to Target. 185 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: Who wouldn't love that? 186 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: So people because of this promotion started to line up, 187 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 2: many at three o'clock in the morning waiting for the 188 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: possibility of getting a really sweet ninja slushy or some. 189 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: Beats, But only one person was gonna get that. Yes, 190 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: so one hundred bags, first hundred people, they're gonna swag bag. 191 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: In one of those bags, you could have ended up 192 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: with beats or a slushy. 193 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Yes, But according to the street dot com, some customers 194 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 2: who received a gift bag without an extra prize were 195 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: not satisfied with the items inside the swag bag. Are 196 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: you ready for what was in the swag bag? 197 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: On? I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess. I was going 198 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: to say a five dollars gift card, but nope, I 199 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: think that'd be too much. You're right, that is too much. 200 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to say a pen I used suck and 201 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: a gift card to Kmart. That's what I'm going with. 202 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: That's that's my that's my guess. 203 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: About as valuable. Okay, uh, the small bag included. 204 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Hold on, before we go any further. Was this at 205 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: all target locations or is this at a specific target location? This? 206 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: And is it? Is it in like a knockoff target? 207 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: It's spelled with two t's at the front targeting target 208 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: right right, it's t moo target. This just says target. 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: So we got to assume this is the target target target. Yes, 210 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: this isn't like McDowell's to McDonald's and coming to America. 211 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: No, and it's not okay. 212 00:11:58,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 213 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: The the swag bag included a small back of gummies. 214 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: Wait what kind of gummies? 215 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: Apparently just the run of the mill candy kind of 216 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: some gummy bears, some gummy bears, A deck of Uno cards. 217 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: I already want to reverse. 218 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: Your hair may have gotten dirty while in line. So 219 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: they included a travel sized shampoo bottle, and some lip oil. 220 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: Wow, so the car you suck. 221 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: Three am, they show up and they have Uno cards, 222 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: which they could easily find in their junk drawer. Right, everybody, 223 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: you go in the junk drawer, you got keys from 224 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: cars you had fifteen years ago, sitting right next to 225 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: the deck of Uno cards. Lip bomb, Oh excuse me, 226 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 2: lip oil bomb versus oil. 227 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: To bomb versus oil has been the back and forth 228 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: amongst people for the centuries. Yeah, this is what actually 229 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: led to the fight between the hat Fields and the McCoy's. 230 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: Travel size shampoo and gummies. 231 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: All right, that's stupid. That is a fundamentally dumb thing 232 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: to do. You and I have not been in a 233 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: target and how long when's the last time you were 234 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: in a target store? A couple weeks ago. I was it. Yes, 235 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: you know how long for me seventeen years ago. 236 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 237 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: If I'm putting things into a gift bag, thinking I've 238 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: got one hundred people, the first thing I'm putting in 239 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: there is the five dollars gift card, right, yes, Because 240 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you are, You're like, all right, 241 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: i'll get five bucks off. Something will cost I'll buy 242 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: ten bucks. It will cost me half. All right, I'll 243 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: feel good. Five hundred bucks agreed. Target times all the stores. 244 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: But immediately people feel like, okay, that's great. If you 245 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: went ten, people be like okay, that's they'd be like, 246 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting a gift for so and so won't cost 247 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: me anything. Great. In their head, they'll be like Target 248 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: is terrific, and they'll buy more stuff. That would be 249 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,599 Speaker 1: number one er number two? I I what would be 250 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: the number two thing that you would throw in from Target? Right? 251 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: They don't. I don't think all of them do the 252 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: popcorn anymore? So I would not have thrown in the popcorn. 253 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: But I would have thrown in some kind of kitchen gadget, 254 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: whether it be a scoop or whether it would have 255 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: been you know, a set of measuring spoons or something 256 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: like that. Suddenly that someone could go, you know what, 257 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: stocking suffer? Great? You know what grandma needs? This perfect. 258 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: They took care of it for me. Done. It's it's 259 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: all plastic, gonna cost a nickel A sham Wow, A 260 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: loofa would have been don't eat the shampoo. Who doesn't 261 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: love a loofah? A loofah is a gift. And if 262 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna give the shampoo, first of all, it shouldn't 263 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: be shampoo. It should be some kind of of soap, 264 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: some kind of uh something like that, and then you 265 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: add the loof of to it. This doesn't take much. 266 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: We're two guys who figured this out. For all the 267 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: underwomen in. 268 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: Line, I completely agree with you, and. 269 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: I assumed they were women because I am a sexist. 270 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: I completely agree with you that even though a five 271 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: dollars gift card isn't a lot, you would still be 272 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: walking away thinking, Okay, I got a little something out 273 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: of this one one TikTok influencer Tony TikTok influence. Yes, 274 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm quoting this person from the street dot Com said, 275 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: literally just played myself waiting five hours outside in the 276 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: cold to try to get this target swag bag, and 277 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: I did give everything away pretty much except for the 278 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: I guess it was Elf lip gloss and the Uno cards. 279 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 280 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: Elf, No, he's friend because Elf. If you remember the 281 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: alien Elf, he had a big snot with the with 282 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,359 Speaker 2: the lifts. 283 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: That's Alf. Oh that's ELFLF. 284 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: So there you have it. You've got people running to 285 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: TikTok right away, upset with target. Target has uh. Let 286 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: let's face it, without getting too deep into the story, 287 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: has has ticked off a lot of people in the 288 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,479 Speaker 2: last few years, and this just seems like another example 289 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: of people making decisions. 290 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: It's it's not my fault that they don't know how 291 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: to do this. It's not my fault that they haven't 292 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: figured it out. It's not my fault that they don't 293 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: have anybody there who has any level of common sense. 294 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: What are you saving the money for? What are you doing? 295 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: Don't think about Okay, we've got an extra thousand of these, 296 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: let's just throw them in there. Think of what is 297 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: going to create the further connection between you and and 298 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: your buyer. It's the connection matter. Do we not understand marketing? 299 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: One on one? How do they feel about you? 300 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: I'm impressed that you understood ELF. 301 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm a man who knows many, many things many. 302 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: So what does ELF stand for? 303 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: It stands for electric light fun. 304 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: You know what's great about E Rink Smoke You end 305 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: up learning something. 306 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: That's sometimes what happens here. Eat Drink Smoke. It is 307 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: your cigar Bourbon Footy Extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz. That's fingers Welly. 308 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: You find everything we do at E Drink Smoke Show 309 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: dot com and get those Christmas gifts. Let's go Bourbon, 310 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: Let's go bbq Recipes, Tips and Tails from the pit. 311 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: Those are our books at Amazon dot com. Let's go Bourbon. 312 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: Let's go barbecue at Amazon dot com. We are smoking 313 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: from ep Korea. This is the Battle Born. This was 314 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: done in conjunction with one of their employees who spent 315 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty years in the military, and part of the proceeds 316 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: here goes to Fisherhouse Foundation, as the story goes, and 317 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: this cigar six six by fifty six six fifty six 318 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: comes in at twenty three dollars a stick here. This 319 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: is with the Connecticut broad leaf in the wrapper, and 320 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: then it is a Mexican Nicaraguan and the binder and 321 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: that's Sen Andreas and the binder and then the Nicaraguan 322 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: filler and you know, Mexican Sen Andreas give you that 323 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: sweet a little bit of chocolate, things like that. That's 324 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: not what you get here. As Fingers said, this is 325 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: the kind of cigar that would make you think a patent. Right. 326 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: It's coming straight forward and it's right at you, and 327 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: it's coming for blood, and if it could, it would 328 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: take on Stalin. It's just that direct and that focused. 329 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: This from what we're told, the EPCOREO battle Born is 330 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: actually actually referred to as the Battleborn Warrior because this 331 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: size they refer to as the warrior size, so it's 332 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: the battle Born Warriors. They say, this is a full 333 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: fingers medium, right, Yeah, this is not as big as 334 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: I thought it would be. It is. It is a 335 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: nice presentation though. It's actually a very very nice spoke smoke. 336 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: It's not as so much a spice as it would is. 337 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: It a fruit that kind of exists on the tongue. 338 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: There's really nothing in the cheek. There's some nice smoke 339 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: that comes off of it, but none of those vanilla creams, 340 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: none of that nuttiness. I don't get any of that 341 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: maybe it'll develop as we're starting to work into the 342 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: second third fingers, But so far, nice cigar. 343 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rich, a tobacco forward it to me. 344 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: There. 345 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: I was expecting it to have a little bit more 346 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: spice to it than it does. 347 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: Right at slight at best. 348 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not a lot here that really you know, 349 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: there's not like four or five notes that you'll you know, 350 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: hit you right in the face or anything. It's just 351 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: been a very solid smoke and it's been very enjoyable. 352 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's twenty three dollars a stick. Now it's 353 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: for the military, if you will with them in mind, 354 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: part of the proceeds goes to Fisher's house. You could 355 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: do it for those reasons. Twenty three is hard on 356 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: this cigar. But I will tell you it's smoking very well. 357 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: Because I said it felt dry, right, maybe it's my 358 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: humid or something else. I've done little touchups because you 359 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: know we're talking, But in the main, it's smoked. It's 360 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: smoking beautifully. Yeah, it's I mean, the cigar is smoking 361 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: very very well. I'm super I'm super plased with it. 362 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: If we're just gonna be completely honest. 363 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: We're not We're not gonna be completely honest. 364 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: Listen, when it comes, we're gonna be a liar. Now. 365 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Where I'm going with this 366 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: is because it's a it's for a good cause, right, 367 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: I would prefer this to be fourteen dollars a stick. 368 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: Fifteen dollars a stick, were twenty three dollars a stick, yes, 369 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: I would have one of these in my humid or. 370 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: Because it goes to a good cause. It's definitely worth 371 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: your time. It's been a pleasant smoking experience. But you 372 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: start getting twenty three dollars a stick, it's like, oh boy, 373 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: but because of what you know, it's a charity cigar, 374 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: and yeah, I would have these money. 375 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: And I get it. You know they're adding some more tobacco. 376 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: It's got that double binder that that's taking place there. 377 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a little steep. Twenty three is a 378 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: little steep. But is it a nice stick? I would 379 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: smoke another one. 380 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: You think I'm not being fair. At fifteen you think. 381 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: It, well, you were at fourteen. Now you're upping it. 382 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: At fifteen you start selling me. I mean, okay, okay, 383 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 2: but what what what what did you wish this cigar? 384 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: Would be I was expecting to spend three hundred dollars 385 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: on this cigar. Oh boy, yeah, fourteen to seventeen, I 386 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: thought it would be. No, I'm not giving you a 387 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: hard time at all. You gave you a heart tak. 388 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: You were giving me. It felt like you were giving me. 389 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: A heart snotch true at all. But check it out 390 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: for yourself and let us know what you think of 391 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: the battleborn here. It's smoking, well, it's easy, it is 392 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: not It is not a full it's not a full. 393 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: Now medium with a little bit of a kick, a 394 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a hat. 395 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: You're just getting into the second third of the cigar. 396 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: So maybe, well both of our opinions on this cigar 397 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: will change as we move further down. 398 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: But maybe by the way, you want to get your 399 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: notebooks out. What did you eat today? What did you 400 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: drink today? Right? You want to write all that down, 401 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: the weather that we talked about, and then break the 402 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: cigar into third's first, third, second, third, final third. We 403 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: talked about this earlier but we didn't finish it. And 404 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: then what you want to do is what are the 405 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: flavors you're getting out of that? Right? Write them down 406 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: in your notebook. And when you try the cigar a 407 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: month from now, six months from now, for whatever it is, 408 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: you do it again and you kind of see where 409 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: your notes were and see your through line. What is 410 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: it that you really picked up out of the cigar. 411 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: It's a great way to study and learn what you're 412 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: interested in. By the way, my HVAC system, the heat 413 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: in the studio just did like it does this kind 414 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: of like flush out every now and again where kind 415 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: of like resets itself and it sounds like an airlock 416 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: opening and predator is going to come in. And it 417 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: just happened, and Fingers freaked, that was actually me. You know, no, 418 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't. I know what you sound like. You sound 419 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: much worse than my mini split system here. But it's 420 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: time Fingers for News of the week. 421 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: Tony CNBC has the story November private payrolls unexpectedly fell 422 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: by thirty two thousand. 423 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so understand that when we're recording, we don't have 424 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: the official number yet from Bureau of Labor Statistics. It's 425 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: also a real question about what the BLS is going 426 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: to be able to put out right. What is it 427 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: that they're going to say, who's back at work post shutdown? 428 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: Everything else I study, I talked to economists and my 429 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: other gig as a radio host syndicated, and then here 430 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, I have no idea what's going on. I 431 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: am Talley. I nothing makes sense. The ten year treasury 432 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: is at four percent plus and that's what the thirty 433 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: year fixed mortgage is based on, and that hasn't really moved. 434 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: And then you see the bitcoin prices and the crypto 435 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: prices falling off a cliff. You see that people spent 436 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: more on Black Friday, nine point one percent more on 437 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Black Friday, but they bought luxury goods, not multiplicity of goods, 438 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: so they spent more money on less things. And then gold, 439 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: at my last check was at forty two hundred dollars 440 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: an ounce, and silver is at fifty eight. I sold 441 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: my silver at fifty one full disclosure, so early. Now. 442 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: I did well on the silver, I'm not complaining about it. 443 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: One of the few things I've done well at in 444 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: my investments. But fifty eight would have been better. Also, 445 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: fifty eight that's a hedge against inflation. Do you tell 446 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: me see what's going on? 447 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: Well, you know, my philosophy is sell low and buy high. 448 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: Bravo. 449 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, and so now you tell me thirty thousand jobs, Yeah, 450 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 2: thirty two thousand. Here's what's interesting about these statistics. According 451 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: to CNBC, larger businesses entailing companies with fifty or more 452 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: employees actually reported in that gain of ninety thousand workers. 453 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: Where the job losses came were businesses with fewer than 454 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: fifty employees. That's where we saw the client of one 455 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand jobs. 456 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: So a little bit of this is an AI play, 457 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: and it's hard to blame the economy, although I'm telling 458 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: you I don't understand the economy. The AI play is 459 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: ups Verizon HP. They're shitting tens of thousands of jobs 460 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: on Amazon, tens of thousands of jobs, including on the 461 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: corporate level. They're going to try and replace things with 462 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: AI and see how much that that can work. So 463 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: a lot of this is just new tech revolution. And 464 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: the thing that's taking the jobs is also the thing 465 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: that's pouring trillions into the market. Money is being invested 466 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: into AI, infrastructure and chips and everything else left right 467 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: and center. So again it leads to this crazy level 468 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: of confusion. I'm not quite sure what to make. 469 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: I feel like it won't seem to matter what is 470 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: reported when it comes to the economy, because there's so 471 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: much uncertainty of AI's impact on the job market that 472 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 2: you're gonna have millions of Americans who are just gonna 473 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 2: always feel uneasy as they see AI's impact in how 474 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: it's becoming. 475 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: But uneasy for what what are they What is AI 476 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: really making someone feel uneasy about it? 477 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: It's easier to worry about losing your job than it 478 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: is to think that everything's going well because most people 479 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: are pessimists. 480 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: Oh you say most people? You mean that's what I thought. 481 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: Is it really called car spreading? I mean, is that 482 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: really the terminology we're going with right now? This is 483 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: this is what they're calling it. In Europe they are oh, 484 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: oh Europe, Well, okay, then T Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. 485 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: That's fingers from the way. You find everything we do 486 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: at Eatdrink Smoke Show dot com. Get the podcast wherever 487 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: it is you get your podcasts, just search for Eat 488 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: Drink Smoke. This is from the BBC. That's that's a 489 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: that's a big outfit in the UK. The UK is 490 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom includes England. I digress UH. 491 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: In the UK and across Europe, cars are steadily becoming longer, wider, 492 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: and heavier. 493 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: Same season. 494 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: Consumers like them. Big cars are seeing as practical, safe 495 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: and stylish, and sales are growing, but some cities want 496 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: to clamp down. So the issue here is that people 497 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: are getting bigger vehicles, like we in the United States 498 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: have come to realize that the suv or the minivan 499 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: is the only way to travel and everything else is stupid, 500 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: aside from a convertible. 501 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's your Yeah, you're right. I have a 502 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 2: sedan that I use for my commute, and that's It's 503 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: a long community. As you know, Tony. I have sixty 504 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: two gigs, and so I'm in my car all the time, 505 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: and I have a more economical vehicle. 506 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 1: You said it before. 507 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: I have a Chevy volt. 508 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. 509 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: One of the gigs that I have. They let me 510 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: charge it for free, so I get a lot of 511 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: free mileage out of that. Out of that volt, I 512 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: don't have to pay for a charge. 513 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: And your other vehicle is is an suv, yes, And 514 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: your other vehicle after that is the most uneconomical pickup 515 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: truck in the history of the mankind. 516 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: Then that is the SSR. Yes, Chevy SSR. And I 517 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: have a GMC Acadia right. 518 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: So, by the way, the Chevy SSR he has is 519 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: in yellow. It is such a beautiful story. Can I 520 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: embarrass you? The truck that his father got for his mother, 521 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: then his mother passed away and now he has the 522 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: truck and it's in this yellow and it is so 523 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: incredibly cool to see him driving down the street. See 524 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: the way he babies this thing. He has never gone 525 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: above thirty two miles an hour in this vehicle. It's 526 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: not true, spec He's never gone above thirty. It's spectacle. 527 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: It is one of the more Every time I see 528 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: you in it, it's beautiful, it's touching. I'm like, good 529 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: for you. Good. I love every every part of it. 530 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: But you have to admit that for as good as 531 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: the boult is and over engineered and the hybrid, and 532 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: America is totally down with hybrids. They aren't down with electric, 533 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: but hybrid makes perfect sense to Americans, are like, absolutely, 534 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: get me from from seventeen miles a gallon to forty 535 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: three miles a gallon, Fine by me, fine, I just 536 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: or to twenty six or to thirty great but they 537 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: want big and they want comfortable. And I thought car 538 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: spreading had to do with man spreading when you're sitting 539 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: and you spread your legs because you just want to 540 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: really be all relaxed down there. 541 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: I hate it when people try, well, I'm not going 542 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: to go down that road. People trying to trying to 543 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: lecture guys on man spreading, and most of the people 544 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: who are doing that aren't men and don't understand. Having 545 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: said that, though, getting back to car spreading, you know 546 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: the VOLTI drive, I wish it were three quarter ton 547 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: pickup truck. Yeah, that would be the vehicle that I 548 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: would like to drive. But it's not economical. But you 549 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: feel safer in it. Big, more comfort, you know. It's 550 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: it's something that Europeans are starting to realize when for 551 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: years it felt like Europeans would make fun of Americans 552 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: and their big SUVs. 553 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: So I because I have a local sponsorship deal with 554 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: with a Ford dealership in Indianapolis, I drive the Ford Lightning, 555 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: the F one fifty Lightning, and there's a whole conversation 556 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: whether they're going to end the production of that. I 557 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: have a friend who has the electric Hummer, the new 558 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Hummer EV I have driven both. The Hummer ev is 559 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: an absolutely beautiful, beautiful vehicle. I think that the Lightning 560 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: is more comfortable of a vehicle. I love it to death, 561 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: but I work from home. It's fine by me. Nobody 562 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: else is doing this. It doesn't make sense. Electric vehicle 563 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: makes sense for like four percent of the population. But 564 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: I have tried from Ford the electric Mustang, which I 565 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: don't know why they call it a Mustang, but we're 566 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: not going to get into that fight right now. It's cool. 567 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: It ain't nothing compared to the Lightning, to the feeld 568 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: of that truck. Now, the actual Mustang, the real must 569 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: Oh that thing all day that thing in inconvertible all 570 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: day long. But it is true. It's it is more comfortable. 571 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: You feel better in it, at least I do for sure. 572 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: The only time I feel better. And I find myself 573 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: looking like some of those seventy one oldsmobiles like the 574 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: coming more and more modern like me and a group 575 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: of guys keep looking for a DTS Cadillac like twenty 576 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: twenty eleven when they last made them, because first of all, 577 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: smoke cigars in it. That's your traveling humidor. And the 578 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: thing is a freaking cloud man. General Motors did it 579 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: beautifully on that thing. You're just riding along. You forget 580 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: that it's actually a car. You're just floating. Life is 581 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: grand thing. Those things are to me the stuff, but 582 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: it's still it's big. It's big car or. 583 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Big suv, especially this time of year, right when you 584 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 2: are driving around and at any point you go down 585 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: the road, all of a sudden, six inches of snow 586 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: just falls out of the sky, out of nowhere, not 587 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: expecting it, and then it just feels safer and you 588 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: feel much more comfortable in a bigger vehicle. 589 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: The problem Europe has is that they don't have the 590 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: streets for this. If you've ever been to any European city, 591 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: they don't have streets that can handle big stuff. Their 592 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: highway system maybe, but they're streets, absolutely not. And they 593 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: have a very different view of climate than we do. 594 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't think you should burn tires in the middle 595 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: of the road everybody. I think you should be aware 596 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: of the environment, and I would argue that one should 597 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: be happy with and be respectful of people or conservationists 598 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: actual science and methodologies that create better outcomes that aren't 599 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: impactful on how humans exist. That's different than an environmentalist 600 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: who is radical to the point of culture like that 601 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: wants to fundamentally change how the human being actually exists 602 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: and survives and remove the things that have allowed for 603 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: human flourishing, like, for example, the automobile, like for example, 604 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: air conditioning. If you didn't have air conditioning, places like 605 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: Houston and places like Tampa Bay would not exist. You 606 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: couldn't be there, it wouldn't work to the extent that 607 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: it does. And these technologies have allowed for opportunity, and 608 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: certainly the car, which is the ultimate in mobility, change 609 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: the way human beings live for forever. The environmentalist doesn't 610 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: want that. The conservationist might be in a discussion of 611 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: how you go about either better fueling or something else, 612 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: but not to the point of saying you shouldn't be 613 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: allowed to do such a thing. That's always been my differentiation. 614 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're seeing they may see it differently, it's 615 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: all I say. And you're seeing governments around Europe pushing 616 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: back against these vehicles getting bigger and bigger. They just 617 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: passed in Paris and ordinance where it's going to cost 618 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 2: more to park heavy vehicles, and the mayor of Paris said, look, 619 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: the larger the vehicle is, the more it pollutes, and 620 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: so they're going to go after it, much like because 621 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 2: of what you said about environmental concerns in Europe and. 622 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: So Europe it was Sweden that started this. I believe 623 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: it was Sweden. Something called Vision zero, which check your city. 624 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: It's there now. In the United States, it's right here 625 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Vision zero is predicated on the idea that 626 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: if we work hard, we can eliminate all car accidents. 627 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: So the vision is zero auto accidents and fatalities zero. 628 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: Do you know how that's done, Fingers boy, I've never 629 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: discussed this with you. How do you get to zero 630 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: car accidents by everyone using public transportation or staying home? Right? 631 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: Vision zero is not something that's about creating a better, 632 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: safer society. 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