WEBVTT - Euphoria - “Stand Still And See” (S3, E6)

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast. What's going on? It's your boy, Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here a mis naturally name modest media man. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>And I am Spike Lou of the On Deck TV

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<v Speaker 1>show and another week in the books.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing man? I'm doing good. Y'all? Pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty good? And you're now tuned in to the frames

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<v Speaker 2>per Second Podcast. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We are continuing on with our weekly recaps of the

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<v Speaker 1>hit HBO original series starrings and dea title Euphoria. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This recap will be dedicated to episode six. May me

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<v Speaker 1>double check make sure I'm right, because I know these

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<v Speaker 1>niggas always be.

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<v Speaker 2>Nigga's got the right taps? Episode six, I'll say that,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Stands?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, we won't have Ken joining us today, but

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<v Speaker 1>Mike will be coming on a little bit later. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna you know, we can always say one monkey,

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<v Speaker 1>don't stop the show rolling through. I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's thoughts on this episode, because well, we got two

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<v Speaker 1>left for this season and this.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode was was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start with you now because when I how

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<v Speaker 1>the episode starts, I was thinking about you.

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<v Speaker 2>So, what did you think? About this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a slow decline. It's a slow, steady decline. I

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<v Speaker 4>think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is.

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<v Speaker 4>The opening with the backstory was the best part of

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<v Speaker 4>the episode. After that, it just went completely downhill for me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just I won't even saying one downhill. It just

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<v Speaker 4>felt very incomplete.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>You felt the same way, Rod, Yeah, felt yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>felt incomplete for us to be uh, two episodes from

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<v Speaker 5>the end. I'm curious to see how they wrap all

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<v Speaker 5>of this up. And this makes me feel like it's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Rushed, you know what i mean. So I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>worried about that.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think, man, it's just it's just an

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<v Speaker 5>okay show right now, you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 5>and that, and that's not cool for you, for you,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying, euph You.

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<v Speaker 3>I never looked at it, Euphoria as just an okay show.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just like one of my top shows, Like

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<v Speaker 5>I was really looking forward to seeing it. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>feeling it's weird because I still look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 5>this because I wanted to get better. So it's I'm

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<v Speaker 5>in a weird place with it. It's like, dang, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>anticipating to see what that's gonna be. And it's like

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<v Speaker 5>I always get let down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>M how about you, Lou, I feel the same as

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<v Speaker 2>this is a well I don't know if they said this,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is a note for me though, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>hate when shows start like getting in his backstory. We

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<v Speaker 2>talked about snowfall and we hope that they wouldn't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>and they give you this whole other story before they

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the cliffhanger that they left on the

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<v Speaker 2>last story, which leads me to Rod's pointing, since I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like they got much story to tell. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't I like all of them. Oh, he's a great character,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't need this backstory. Bro like that that

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<v Speaker 2>shit didn't tell me nothing about him in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that it added to the current storyline. It don't. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't give any depth to him, like ye'all got it,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand when and then they tried to wrap it

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<v Speaker 2>up with don't ever trust no bitch, like that was cool,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't need that. I want to be more

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<v Speaker 2>in this world with the characters that I know already. Like, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like that they did that, But also I

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<v Speaker 2>do still enjoy it. It is still an okay show.

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<v Speaker 2>I do still look forward to it. Like Rod said,

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<v Speaker 2>it hopes that it does get better that they wiled

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<v Speaker 2>me in these next two weeks, but I don't if

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<v Speaker 2>I had to bet on it, I wouldn't think so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I first to say I was wrong. I was wrong

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<v Speaker 2>early on by saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about like the first couple episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, these are gonna be the worst episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Seasons gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>Better as it goes along, and that has not been

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<v Speaker 1>the case at all, especially after this episode. I do

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<v Speaker 1>agree with most of y'all like how it start was intriguing,

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<v Speaker 1>but as it was going along, Nay, it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>this was the Alamo show. Like it felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't even care about the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the cast. Let's just get back to that character because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most intriguing character that we don't know too

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<v Speaker 1>much about.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love what we do learn throughout the sea

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this may have been one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>unsatisfying episodes of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mike, I'm not sure if you are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just not going over our overall thoughts, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to see what you thought about this episode just

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<v Speaker 1>in general.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry jailing, but my mind it's not working. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 6>I liked this episode. I don't know what y'all said

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<v Speaker 6>because I've logged on late, but uh, I didn't have

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<v Speaker 6>a problem with this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was all right. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was amazing or anything, but I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, most of everybody said it wasn't that or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not entertained as the right word, but like just

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<v Speaker 1>that good overall, like what we were hoping for about it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>as we're getting to the last couple of episodes of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Didn't hear none of that. I'm sure it's on my end,

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<v Speaker 6>but you just froze. But I'm positive it's my end.

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<v Speaker 1>But go ahead, Oh okay, Well, to me, this episode

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have too much going on for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the cast. This is mostly an Alamo dominated episode, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can focus on that and we could

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<v Speaker 1>touch on the other cast characters down the line. But

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<v Speaker 1>we start off this episode with seeing a flashback and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat origin story of Alamo with his mom growing up

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the biggest lessons that he I guess

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<v Speaker 1>Withreugh narrating that he learned as a young kid with

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<v Speaker 1>how his mom interacted with a man that she was dating.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with you, Nay, since is one of your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite characters. You said this is the most interesting part

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode. Why was that for you?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the performance is Danielle that dead Wilder. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's her last name. She's an acting fool. I

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<v Speaker 4>love anything that she's in. So while I understand Alamo's

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<v Speaker 4>not character that is primary to the show that we've

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<v Speaker 4>grown with, I felt like this backstory. I liked the

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<v Speaker 4>Alamo character, and I felt like the backstory was interesting

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<v Speaker 4>and was probably the most interesting piece of this show

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<v Speaker 4>because I didn't really care about any of the what

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<v Speaker 4>was going on with any of the other characters, which

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<v Speaker 4>is why I feel like this show is steadily declining.

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<v Speaker 4>Like for me to not care about Nate getting chased,

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<v Speaker 4>for me to not care about Cassie. The thing that

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<v Speaker 4>I cared the most about was this scene, and Jules

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<v Speaker 4>and Rue and everything else was kind of filler. But

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<v Speaker 4>I really I really like Danielle's performance. I really liked

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<v Speaker 4>the story with like the way his Alamo's mom issues

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<v Speaker 4>created who Alamo is, and at this point I could

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<v Speaker 4>just be alright with the Alamo and Rus show.

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<v Speaker 1>Rod, did you feel the same way after seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>how we started this episode?

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<v Speaker 2>That's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just saying, like that, this show is now heavily,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to his detriment, focused on Alamo.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's to a detriment per se,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I did like that that backstory, it felt very

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<v Speaker 5>euphoria or whatever, like to go back, you know, tell

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<v Speaker 5>the story of how they got to where they were.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we were just talking about that. We

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<v Speaker 3>were just saying how it was missing that, and so

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<v Speaker 3>they came right back.

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<v Speaker 5>With this episode and did that, and they did it

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<v Speaker 5>really well with the Alimo story, giving you more.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a sense of how he got to where he was.

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<v Speaker 5>And and just listen to his whole model now.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really liked that. The performances was great.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the the mom just just just being brutal, and

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<v Speaker 5>they start off saying that, but then like when you

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<v Speaker 5>see it, it's just like what I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 5>really see I thought, you really love it, man, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I'm saying, to the point where you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Alimo was food and yeah, man, it just really.

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<v Speaker 3>Really sucked, but it felt very like that time.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they did a really good job with capturing

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<v Speaker 5>whatever time period that was supposed to be, with like

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<v Speaker 5>the paintings and just the furniture, all of that, the hairstyles, like,

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<v Speaker 5>I thought all of that was really really really executed well.

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<v Speaker 5>And then yeah, you just asked me about that. That

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<v Speaker 5>how they opened it with that, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so no, I thought I thought I thought they

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<v Speaker 3>nailed that. I thought they nailed that a part.

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<v Speaker 6>What about you, Mike, what did you think about how

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<v Speaker 6>we started off this episode? Yeah, I think the way

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<v Speaker 6>they started it off was great. I loved all of this.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't expect them to start this way, but I

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<v Speaker 6>was totally fine with it. I like Alamo enough to

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<v Speaker 6>want to know his backstory, and I like that that

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<v Speaker 6>actress a lot too, And it was a good story.

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<v Speaker 6>It felt like really good old school euphorre your writing.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I like this. I like this a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Louis should have it should have God knew that she

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<v Speaker 1>was joking him for his bread.

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<v Speaker 2>You always try to sit give me the setup question.

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<v Speaker 2>He should have knew that. It It's like I ain't

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<v Speaker 2>mad at her for it, though I feel like she was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just doing what she had to do to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>It just so happened that he was the mark I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and it happened to him and she left him. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was good. She was good. I like

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<v Speaker 2>her as an actor as well the other stuff I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>her in. I think I'm on the different side of

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<v Speaker 2>the fence with you. As far as Alamo's backstory, I

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<v Speaker 2>liked him as a character in present day. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>care about any of this shit though. This didn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>anything to me. I didn't need to know why he

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<v Speaker 2>went with a pimp bro Like I pretty much figured

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<v Speaker 2>it out. Something went wrong in his life. I got that, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this was I was out of here. I ain't like.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't really like that. I was more so frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>that they didn't take us right back to where they

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<v Speaker 2>left us at when they started the episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's what you meant when you open up with.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so you didn't you didn't like that? It didn't

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<v Speaker 5>feel like throw back you for your tea.

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<v Speaker 2>Not really, because again, I'm still getting I like Alamo,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm still getting used to him. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that in invested in him to have to

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<v Speaker 2>look at that and then the end of it be, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't gonna never trust no bitch because my mom did.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm saying that because they said that, but because

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<v Speaker 2>my mom gott I forgot the name was Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need him to say that or that to happen

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<v Speaker 2>and to see that to understand that about l though

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<v Speaker 2>it was it would have been good on another show,

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<v Speaker 2>on another season or earlier somewhere, but just specifically it

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<v Speaker 2>being right here is what frustrated me about I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I was fine with it. I was fine with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually added a little bit something to me, because again,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 2>How these men who are in these.

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<v Speaker 1>Professions quote unquote, like like you mentioned, there was something

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<v Speaker 1>that went wrong, and there's always a difference something and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean some stuff is stereotypical, but this one was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of somewhat unique because it wasn't like he was

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<v Speaker 1>like groomed into being like a drug dealer or a pip.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like his mom was abusing him or I

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<v Speaker 2>think the.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy mentioned that him and his dad didn't like he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to make up for what his dad didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do or whatever. But it seemed like this story was

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<v Speaker 1>just one of like, Okay, this is where his innocence broke,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was never the same after that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting that it was done out of love.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you mentioned, Lou, I think you said his mom

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<v Speaker 1>clearly loved him, like she kept on talking about like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this for you, I'm doing this for us.

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<v Speaker 1>If he can't accept it, doesn't matter if he loves me,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as he you know, if he don't love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought all that was great set up, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact that she used love to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>manipulate him to act a different way, too, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think if she would have told him what was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have been a kid and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably would have fucked it up or snitched or said something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it was very It was a great

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<v Speaker 1>way to explain how he looks at women after that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because this is the first time that the woman

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<v Speaker 1>that he loved broke his heart. So I love how

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<v Speaker 1>we started off, and and like you said, Lou, we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get right back to where we ended off,

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<v Speaker 1>where he's riding down with that gavel or whatever about

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<v Speaker 1>the swing on Rue and then he somehow Ru ends

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<v Speaker 1>up talking herself out of getting killed and says that

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<v Speaker 1>I can make a deal. I can get your money back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me call Faye. Mike, what did you think about

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<v Speaker 1>learning about what happened? What's been going on with Faye

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<v Speaker 1>and that Nazi dude? As we learned how Ru was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to basically manipulate her to get what she wants.

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<v Speaker 6>See, I thought all this was interesting, especially are we

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<v Speaker 6>at the conversation that they had when Ru called her

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<v Speaker 6>yes when she's still in the I thought this was

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<v Speaker 6>interesting because, like I mean, I guess it does kind

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<v Speaker 6>of show that Faye is a little stupid, but it

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<v Speaker 6>also shows that she'll kind of do whatever it takes

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<v Speaker 6>to please the guy that she's with. And I like

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<v Speaker 6>the whole part where Roote asked or so, like are

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<v Speaker 6>you a Nazi now? And she's like, well not really.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like yeah, She's like kind of sort of It's

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<v Speaker 6>like what this this to me? Felt again like it

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<v Speaker 6>felt like season two epho your writing. I thought it

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<v Speaker 6>was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Nay, what did you think?

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<v Speaker 4>I was very confused because I thought we'd already done this.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought we'd already talked about getting the key, and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that this was already the plan. So I

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<v Speaker 4>was a little confused. Yeah, this this scene, it felt

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<v Speaker 4>flat for me. Mm hmm. Fell a little flat for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought like it was and it goes back

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<v Speaker 4>to the I don't like the whole rat storyline for

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<v Speaker 4>this simple fact. It's like it's this cat and mouse

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<v Speaker 4>game that I don't feel like it's fleshed out all

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<v Speaker 4>the way. So, yeah, I thought we had already established

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<v Speaker 4>that she was going to get the key and get

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<v Speaker 4>the money last episode.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was confused.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we all remember that I was in the same

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<v Speaker 2>boat as they, Oh, I confused. My confusion came from

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that they did establish that, and they suspected

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<v Speaker 2>her of talking to the police, and that's why they

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<v Speaker 2>had her dig the whole and they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>terroget her about that. That's what I thought. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting there with the same confusion as Nay. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>why did getting the key get her out of this

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<v Speaker 2>when they did this, like they thought she was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the police. At least that's what I thought, And

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<v Speaker 2>then I thought, maybe I think he ever said that.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we just assumed that maybe they dug the

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<v Speaker 6>hole like that because they thought that she was secretly

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<v Speaker 6>in on the whole heist because she was in the

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<v Speaker 6>room or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she heard their voices, and he didn't understand why

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't tell who it was because she heard their voices.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we just thought that they thought she was

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<v Speaker 6>talking to us, and she's talking to the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe Rob Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>During that scene where we're learning about what Faye has

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<v Speaker 1>been up to with her boyfriend and how she's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Rude, Faye actually also tries the drugs that were

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<v Speaker 1>stolen from the safe and it just gave.

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<v Speaker 2>Her the runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think do you think that's gonna come back

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<v Speaker 1>as far as like now Fay knows that because she

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<v Speaker 1>even said it to the dude.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, that's not actually cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, I ain't trying to hear it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to Like, we're trying to have a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to start a family.

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<v Speaker 2>You over here doing drugs? Do you think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Trusting Faye as far as being a no point intended

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<v Speaker 1>key piece of this is going to be like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a downfall.

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<v Speaker 5>For Ruthe well, I don't like what they're doing with

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<v Speaker 5>Fade this season. I feel like she was just more

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<v Speaker 5>intriguing last season. This one, I felt like they were

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<v Speaker 5>gonna do something with that. It's like they're shining away

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<v Speaker 5>from that. In my opinion, I'd be really surprised that.

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<v Speaker 3>They, you know, give her a bigger.

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<v Speaker 5>Bigger purpose here. So I don't know how much more

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna get of.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you interested? Are you interested in getting more? If

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<v Speaker 2>we do?

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<v Speaker 5>I was, I wasn't first, but then the way they're

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<v Speaker 5>writing her this season, I'm not really rocking with it.

0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Really, I'm not really rocking.

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<v Speaker 5>It's kind of like how y'all feeling and how I'm

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<v Speaker 5>feeling now about Nate.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they've downgraded her character so this is

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<v Speaker 3>just like a real airhead or.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like just kind of just drug druggy, Whereas last season,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like she was like observing and stuff was

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<v Speaker 5>happening around her. And I think I said that early

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<v Speaker 5>on when we first start reviewing this, but yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not getting.

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<v Speaker 3>That sense anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>She just, like she said, she just in love, like

0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.520
<v Speaker 5>dump like stupidly in love with this Nazi And I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just not in this storyline.

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<v Speaker 6>For her, she was always an airhead. Remember, the only

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<v Speaker 6>reason she was observing is because the dude came and

0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.760
<v Speaker 6>told her that they were setting Fes up. She didn't

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<v Speaker 6>figure anything out, not that I remember at least.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>She just seemed a lot more intriguing last last season

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<v Speaker 5>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just not the same, it doesn't. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>feel the same.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not delivering the lines the same. I know that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that too, that too.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she was endaring because of Fez.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that could be.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think because of the group that she's with,

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<v Speaker 4>she's not endearing anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's probably I think. I think you're right, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that what made that made that make sense,

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.040
<v Speaker 5>and now that he's not there, it doesn't make sense anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's probably why when they brought up Fez, that

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<v Speaker 6>was like the most like interesting part of the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was like, remember Fez helped you, so you

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<v Speaker 2>need to help me.

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<v Speaker 3>M hm, Yeah, that's what it was. You're right, now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>So but I'm kind of I can't remember who said it,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, yeah, this, this, this, this whole sequence didn't

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<v Speaker 5>really do much for me.

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<v Speaker 3>It seemed like it ran ran too long. And like again,

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>It's because the involvement of fa Rue is always gonna

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<v Speaker 5>deliver the lines. We can always kind of her to

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<v Speaker 5>deliver lines. But I don't know, it just it just

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<v Speaker 5>was a little weird for me. I'm sorry, Mike, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>be all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This does kick us to the next part where Alamo

0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 1>is not like all right, I'm gonna set up a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with LORII. We're gonna meet at my crib and

0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:40.760
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna discuss how we're gonna I can get my

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<v Speaker 1>ship back and we can just kind of end this ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote unquote, Lou, what did you think about the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that Laurie had with Alamo when they went when they

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up to his spot.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were trying to negotiate a deal for a truce.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just feel like it came out

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.119
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. Like I understand, the borders were closing, so

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 2>they had the pivots, so now they want to use it.

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like he would have been compensated more

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 2>for such a big deal or twist like this and

0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 2>you just robbed me. I ain't, I ain't got no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear this shit. I'm gonna go

0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 2>do with myself. If anything, I didn't have to even

0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.240
<v Speaker 2>use you. So it felt weird to me that she

0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 2>was able to come to him like she had leverage

0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 2>after you just robbed me. I don't care about the

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 2>little bird and it dying like whatever you felt about

0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.320
<v Speaker 2>that so well, but you came and robbed my place

0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:35.200
<v Speaker 2>of business and now you're marching up in here, your

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<v Speaker 2>son or whoever that is to you're talking crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I didn't understand how she was able to have

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.359
<v Speaker 2>a position of leverage in this, do you know? I

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.320
<v Speaker 2>think that it was like Alamo was like has something

0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:48.879
<v Speaker 2>more up his sleeve, Like he's just using this to

0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 2>gain access to her, Like I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 2>like for me, I took that scene as like there's

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 2>more to what Alamo's doing.

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.639
<v Speaker 1>He just pretending to be like, Okay, this is just

0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:02.240
<v Speaker 1>a truth because like I said, I agree with everything

0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.639
<v Speaker 1>you say. Like he's clearly he been pissed off for

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a while and this is just him being a little

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 1>bit more cunning.

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<v Speaker 2>That's possible they didn't, and if they didn't, that's fine

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 2>because I would like to be surprised by But they

0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't give me any indications that were what was going on.

0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.439
<v Speaker 2>But it's definitely possible with that character. I agree with

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.400
<v Speaker 2>you there, what about you to day?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this scene felt flat for me too. The only

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.399
<v Speaker 4>thing that I think that I took from it, The

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 4>most important piece to me was when he when they

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<v Speaker 4>tried to get Rude to be the drug meal and

0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:36.600
<v Speaker 4>he says, I have people I trust more than her,

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.479
<v Speaker 4>and Laurie was like, you don't trust Rue. So I

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 4>feel like he's aware of the cop angle, and part

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:48.280
<v Speaker 4>of me feels like he's in on it somehow. But

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<v Speaker 4>I really feel like within these next two episodes they

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.879
<v Speaker 4>got to give me some kind of twist here to

0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.280
<v Speaker 4>make me feel like any of this matters to me.

0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 4>And I just think for both of them, with us

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:05.200
<v Speaker 4>having this backstory of Alamo, I just expected more from

0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 4>what they did with him this episode, and it just

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 4>it just I didn't get it.

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<v Speaker 6>Mike, you got your face crushed up? Yeah, because I

0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 6>think so. I think this scene worked for me because

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<v Speaker 6>I liked Laurie and I found her to be intimidating

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 6>and creepy, and just just the way she delivered the

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 6>dead pan.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she was a cool character.

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 6>I know y'all didn't like her, but I've been saying

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:44.120
<v Speaker 6>since day one, I like Laurie and to see Alamo

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<v Speaker 6>be like, I don't give a fuck about none of

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 6>this shit, and he the way he yanked her to him,

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 6>and he was just like, if you even think about

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 6>fucking me.

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 2>That right there. I was like, I fuck with Alamo.

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<v Speaker 6>I like this whole scene, and I like the fact

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.000
<v Speaker 6>that what's the lynch, y'all, y'all Marcia.

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 2>I like the way he looked up when the dude

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:05.639
<v Speaker 2>said at a boy because.

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 6>I felt mad he said that ship and he looked

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 6>at him, was like, yeah, watch your fucking mouth.

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I liked this scene. It was very,

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 2>very tense.

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 6>I forget the other dude's name, the dude with the

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 6>weird bishop bishop. The way he was delivering it's almost

0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 6>like he took on that monotone, weird deadpan LORI vibe

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 6>and was giving it to the dude that was sitting

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 6>nearest to him. I think that's her brother or something.

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 6>I don't think it's her son. Either way, Yeah, I

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 6>liked this scene. I thought it was cool.

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 2>He I like the way Ru was behaving too. Every

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 2>time they showed her face.

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 6>Zendeia is too good, like you can read everything on

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 6>her face and the way she kept like she kept

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 6>looking kept in her seat.

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I loved this scene.

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Man, Yep.

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 2>For me was like as soon as he put his

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 2>feet up on the table, or was this this motherfucker

0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:06.360
<v Speaker 2>just don't care? He disrespectful.

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I know he had not seen all that ship, but like, damn,

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:10.959
<v Speaker 1>like you on their turf in they crib and like

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>they literally came out gun's.

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>Deep Like ye, Robert, what did you take from that scene?

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, some of a little bit of both of like

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 5>what Mike and they was saying. But I think I'm

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 5>leaning more towards Mike this time. This was an intriguing

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 5>scene because I particularly do like Lorie, so I like that,

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 5>but I also agree.

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 3>With I don't know Spike said or dang, I can't

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 3>remember who's saying.

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 5>What, but it did seem like how are y'all so

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 5>confident in this man house that did that?

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.919
<v Speaker 3>Did seem a little weird, like.

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 5>They have the high ground, like they could just kill

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 5>y'all off if you if if if if he wanted to,

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if that does in long like long term,

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 5>but well, I guess he would never find his money,

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 5>So I guess that's the leverage they had, because a.

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 6>Nazi will think like that, Rod, A Nazi will think

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 6>like that. A Nazi will walk up into your house

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 6>and act like they have the high ground because they're

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 6>white and they don't think you won't do ship the

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 6>way they were talking to him.

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I do agree with you, Rod.

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 6>It probably has part to do with the money, but

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 6>I just think that Nazis would behave that way interesting.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that was a little odd to me. That

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 5>was a little odd to me. Yeah, but I still

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 5>like though I like your I like your house. A

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 5>little person did you'll see how.

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 3>Smrong she.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Spikes bike off?

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 3>Please?

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>What about her? Felt like a little person who.

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Is like yes three he said it in the previous

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>episode when because gave a fall pass, He's like they

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>got us six plus as digging.

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Like like her frame is like little person frame. If

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 2>y'all go there and go back and look at it,

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 2>watch watching.

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>Well, she she writes a little because she dressed like

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>looking at the clown, her clothes as big as head

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>like she was.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 7>She got droopy clothes like she don't really, But.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 2>But I love this scene. I thought Bishop was gonna shoot.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.200
<v Speaker 1>Cuz, Like as soon as he pulled a gun on

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and like under the table on behind the bar, I

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>thought she was about to go down. I love how

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>when a nigga really talking ship ride, they always bring

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:43.920
<v Speaker 1>up Hiroshima. That's the one part of history that every

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>nigga knows, Like nigga, I'm about to kill everybody if

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 1>shit go wrong, he said.

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 8>Look, he said, they want a pinky in my asses.

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 8>I was like, this nigga talking ship. But I was

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 8>surprised that it was just a clean meeting.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, it was a lot to build up because

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I think we had about one or two episodes where

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 1>he was discussing, like I talked to Lauria gonna set

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 1>up a meet.

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought there was gonna be something that was gonna

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>happen then.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>But to y'all point, like granted he made even if

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>even if they do have the key already kind of made,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>they still got to know how to get in, and

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>they still don't know the whole area. And also they

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know who else Laurie is working with too, so

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it will be too soon to kind of

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>attack on that. But I love how the scene it's

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 1>set up and where we're gonna go to. But we

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 1>quickly kind of jumped to Maddie's perspective. I believe where

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>she's been working with Alamo a lot, got the girls

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 1>going her, including Matt, Cassie and that as well working

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>at the club and stuff like that. And then she

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>has a conversation with Alamo, which is like the first

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>time she's really seen the version that Rue has still

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.120
<v Speaker 1>been he rules, you know, even in this episode, warned

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.679
<v Speaker 1>her again like Nigga, don't do business with Alamo. And

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>she's like, well, you do business with Alamo? What's wrong

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>with that? And Ru was like, Nick, I can't tell

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you what's like, it's me. You should know my decisions

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>are bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But Rob, what did you think about what Maddie is

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>getting into and do you think that she's in trouble

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>or she still knows how to handle herself.

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I think she still knows how to handle herself.

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 5>I was a little her first into Bisious spoke up

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 5>and it was like, Nah, it's you know, it's a

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 5>lot of people try to fuck you, but I don't

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 5>think Maddie's one of those people or whatever.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 3>So I think, you know, he's going to be.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 5>The saving grades for Maddie and her business acumen or whatever.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 3>So I think she's good on that side.

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 5>I can't I can't imagine that being an issue.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I still I still like the Maddie storyline.

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 5>I think she's still still a strong character and they

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 5>didn't stay on her too long, but I think next

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 5>episode they're gonna definitely be on her, but not for

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 5>It's like what she's doing with the girls and stuff like, yeah,

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 5>she's doing her thing, man, she's doing what she does,

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, I'm here for it.

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>They Do you think Maddie's catching on to what's going

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>on at the club based off of her saying like,

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>can you at least give him one day off?

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think she's picking up what Rule was putting down,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 4>and I, well, I think she thinks she has it together.

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm starting to get worried for Maddie. So I'm starting

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 4>to get a little concerned because we now know that

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Alamo don't really he don't really mess with women at all.

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 4>That's why he's in the business that he's in. So

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 4>I think that backstory kind of identified that Maddie's in

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 4>trouble girl. Mm hmm. This ain't gonna go well for her.

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 4>She needed to get out while she can.

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Mike, you agree.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 6>One hundred percent, And that was why I, uh, not

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 6>to call you out, Spike. But that's why I kind

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 6>of disagree with Spike when it came to the importance

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 6>of the story with Alamo.

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I think we could have maybe.

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 6>Just assumed, oh, he just doesn't fuck with women, but

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 6>I think his reasoning for why he doesn't trust women

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 6>I think is what's gonna make his relationship with Maddie

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 6>very interesting. But what I'm more interested in is how

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 6>this new job that Cassie is going for, how that's

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.719
<v Speaker 6>gonna affect their relationship with Maddie, Like, is Maddie just

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 6>gonna beat her ass?

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Is Maddie gonna sue her? Like?

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 6>What is gonna happen there? But with Maddie and Alamo,

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 6>I am.

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Concerned for Maddie.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't think anything super bad is gonna happen to

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 6>her because I feel like she would probably try to

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 6>bounce before that got that bad.

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>But you never know, they might throw a.

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Twist in there, Lou, You think Maddi can get up

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>out of there before she gets real.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Not unscathed, like she may not be like fatally hurt,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 2>but something's definitely gonna happen to her. And I base

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>it off with Mike and Ny said that backstory meant

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.959
<v Speaker 2>something may not have done the thing for me, but

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>it also gave context to this ain't a partnership. Like

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I said last week, this him looking at her like

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get over on you before you get over

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 2>on me, and whatever have to happen from that, is

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen because I just don't trust nobody, So that

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 2>having that context added and is we I did appreciate that,

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>and it did make me look at this differently, like

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 2>y'all said, And no, she will not get out on skates,

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 2>because Maddie's always get put in these positions since we've

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>been in this euphoria world. Is like she sometimes she

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>biites off a little bit more than she can chew,

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>and I think this is gonna be one of those situations.

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think Maddie's in the most interesting position because

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>as much as we can focus on Rude being a

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.959
<v Speaker 1>snitch and like that can be tense, Like what Maddie's

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>doing is really tense because it's it's it's kind of

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 1>like an Alice in Wonderland. She's going down this rabbit

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>hole and she doesn't really know what's around the corner,

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's still very intriguing to her. And because it

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>puts her in a boss like position, because she's always

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>really pretty much been one of the bit of boss

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>since Like Things season two when she was working for

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.479
<v Speaker 1>that rich lady. So I like that she is like

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>being able to scratch that itch when it comes to

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like what is it like to, you know, run my

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>business and just make money in very unique ways?

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 2>However, like.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>She's also smart too, So that's the reason why I'm

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>very interested in her character arc this season, because Rue

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>was telling like out of everybody, Rule was constantly telling

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>her warnings, the fact that she heard Alamo talk about

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>her in a way like I don't even see you

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>as Maddie.

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I see you just as a person who can help

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 2>make me money.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>And once you once we stop agreeing on that, you're

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>told like you're gonna be put in the same basket

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>as everybody else. But Bishop had to be the one

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to step in and says, like, listen now to everybody

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that you think is going to screw you over, I

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>think you need to look elsewhere with this. To me,

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just like if Bishop, everybody is backing you up,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's like you that.

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Tells you that you may be in the wrong room

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>where a nigga can snap.

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm hoping that she's picking up on these cues

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>before it's too late, because I do think her character

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>is smart. But like Mike says, she may not even

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>be able to get to that chance because there's certain

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>circumstances that are out of her control, like where we

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>get to with Cassie. Cassie last episode was making a

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of money, she rolls her platform and everything, and

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>now we see her in this new acting role, in

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 1>this new acting industry, and too even though it's upsetting Lexi,

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>she's actually kind of making it work. Mike, what you

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>since you brought it up, what were your thoughts on

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Cassie this episode and the decisions she made.

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's still Fucksinny Sweeney till the day I die.

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 6>But I think she did a good job in this episode.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 6>I think showing the desperation but also showing the kind

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.360
<v Speaker 6>of like weird misplaced confidence that she had.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 2>In this episode, I thought all this was really good.

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 6>I thought her scene where she was trying to cover

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 6>up the fact that she does do sex work and

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 6>Lexi was, you know, over here being a hater the

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 6>whole time, and I thought that whole back and forth

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 6>was I thought that back and forth was really good

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:57.160
<v Speaker 6>because I think it especially shows like because that's not

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 6>typical Lexi. You know, Lexi, he is judgmental, but she's

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 6>not typically that vocal, which is why the play was

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 6>such a weird situation. But I think her sitting there

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 6>being like, nah, you do sex work? Oh no, she

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 6>gives I didn't know what uh what?

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>You never heard that either, Nick.

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 6>I'd seen those those those letters, but I didn't know

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 6>that's what it meant. I thought it was just a

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 6>weird Spike, the only one that knew. But I thought

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 6>it was like a weird thing for like just joy.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 6>Like it was like, oh, this is joy. So anyway,

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 6>it doesn't matter at any rate. I found this whole

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 6>scene to be really interesting. What wait, I'm the only

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 6>one that didn't know.

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, I'm laughing at the joy. Mike, don't

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 1>worry about what was doing. You could tell you knew

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>what ja o I was by his hat. So that's

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>how you need to know. I would you, because I

0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>know what the hell it.

0:35:58.600 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Was talking about.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>But but before I move on to someone else, I

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 1>do want to say. I do want to say Lexi

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>challenging Cassie. To me, I looked at as more as

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a sister thing than just like a oh Lexi's speaking up.

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>She's speaking out because Lexi always got something to say

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>about her sister. So I just felt like she if

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it was anybody else, she would have kind of probably

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>been more quiet, but because of somebody that.

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 2>She's known, she knows through and through. She called her

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a narcissist.

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I think last episode, like I think she was just like,

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna have you bullshit in front of people.

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 2>That I work for.

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I agree. I think she doesn't want Cassie sucking

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 6>up her job.

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we see that. That's interesting that y'all say that,

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 2>because I think that her other two friends put her

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 2>in the jeopardy of messing up her job and she

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't have this type of energy. I think there's a

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>jealousy there with her sister in the sense that you

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>always get everything so easy, Like I'm working hard at

0:36:57.960 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 2>this and trying this, and you just come in and

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 2>you do this little thing where you cry in the

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 2>audition and you raise Shakespeare and now they're acting like

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 2>they're going to give you a full part. I feel

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>like it was a lot of jealousy there because she

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't have this energy. As y'all said, she didn't have

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the energy with Maddie. Maddie was saying and jewles because

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Maddie forced the audition and jeweles painted the picture and

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>she gave little to no pushback on them for putting

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 2>her job in jeopardy. But here, your sister is about

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>to get the opportunity, and you got every objection in

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the world. So I really thought that was interesting and

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:33.520
<v Speaker 2>a jealous thing for her, sort of to what you said, Mike,

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>why she wrote the play. The whole play I feel

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like was rooted in jealousy as well, and it comes

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 2>up when her sisters at play because she feels like

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>she got it easy.

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 6>That's a really, really good point, Spike. I didn't even

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 6>think about the jealousy angle. Do you think that maybe

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 6>she's just tired because it's been Jules messed her up,

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 6>Maddie mess and now is Cassie. Do you think she's

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 6>just like, all right, this is it, like I'm sick

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 6>of this shit? Or do you think is really just

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 6>based on the fact that this is my sister.

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's rooted in jealousy, but I also think

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:06.919
<v Speaker 2>she's fed up as well. Like you said, I didn't

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 2>say anything to Maddie. I didn't say anything to anyone else.

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>And now you're right here, No, no, I'm fed up.

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm protecting my job.

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 4>God living in her sister's shadow, and now it's like

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 4>she finally got her own thing, and her sister's encroaching

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 4>on the one thing that she's kind of finally got.

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 4>So I completely it was hate. It absolutely was her hating.

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 4>But I feel like, rightfully so she wants her own thing.

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Mm Rod to that point, the producer or one of

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the executive producers, I feel like she's really been taking

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>Lexi under her wing in of some sort of course.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>She's been very stern with her in some aspects when

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>she messed up, but like she was like, because this

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>is your sister and you gave her this opportunity that

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>we're kind of moving forward with, why don't you write

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 1>her part?

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, say, act like you deserve it type thing?

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Where do you think?

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>And then we obviously we hear the conversation she has

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>with her friend about the what do you think that

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Lexi is going to do with her sister moving forward?

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Because if we're going off that jealousy, hang, I don't

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>know if you'll agree with that.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, I mean I think just to go back

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 5>to the one point, I think like Sharon Stone is

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 5>the character I believe right she she obviously sees something

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 5>in there because she would have fired her after.

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 3>The whole painting thing or whatever, but she still kept

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 3>her on.

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 5>As far as on what I think Lexi would do

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 5>with the character, as far as killing her off, she

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:34.399
<v Speaker 5>may try, but I think Sharan Stone is gonna keep

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 5>pushing for her to be, you know, the start, one

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 5>of the stars of the show, or she might she made.

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.640
<v Speaker 3>She may just be like, you know, well, this is

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.719
<v Speaker 3>my calling, this is my sister, and we're just gonna

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 3>see it through.

0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't know, I don't know. I don't

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 5>know exactly where they're gonna go with this, but I

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:59.959
<v Speaker 5>think the main part is the the fact that she's

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 5>she's moving from only fans to this.

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that's that's the main part that they're trying

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 3>to tell with this, this particular part. But I do

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 3>find it interesting that.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 5>We got all of this stuff with Cassie, uh with

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 5>Cassie up until this point, and it's almost trying to

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 5>go into the narrative that she's been trying to say

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 5>in real life as far as trying to trying to

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 5>get you know, get get more from the douctive side

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 5>to just being a serious actor. So I wonder I'm

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.800
<v Speaker 5>wondering if they're gonna if they did all of that

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 5>stuff in the beginning just to kind of clean her

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 5>up towards the end, kind of like, what's like what

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 5>she's trying to do in real life with her What

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying, Yeah, I think there trying to write that

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 5>story in this in this show.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 10>I mean, but that it might.

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Be that might be what they're doing.

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we we brought that up before. Oh go ahead,

0:40:57.760 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 2>name well I.

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 4>Was gonna say that, or I feel like Lexi isn't

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 4>going to become a situation where Lexi too manipulates because

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 4>she knows who Cassie is and she can write to

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 4>Cassie's strengths, which is sexuality. So do we find Lexi

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 4>in a situation where she's ultimately doing the same thing

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 4>that Maddie and Nate and everyone else has been doing,

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 4>which is capitalizing off of using Maddie or Cassie as

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 4>a sexual object on her TV show.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:31.319
<v Speaker 3>Could be?

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 5>Could be, But I think there's going to be some

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 5>struggle there because maybe Cassie be like, well, no, I

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 5>don't want to do that. I could have did this

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 5>doing only fans. I want to be taken as a

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 5>serious actress. That whole dialogue.

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I hope this ain't predictable as I think it may be.

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>But what I think may happen is that she's so

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.439
<v Speaker 2>good at her job as far as writing. We've seen

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 2>from the play. She's going to try to write something

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 2>to the little or embarrass her sister, and it's going

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to backfire. It's gonna go really well, and she's going

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 2>to turn into a big star. Like I think that

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe where it heads sait this and then that's where

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Nate gets the money from, because now she his wife,

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 2>is a successful star. I think I would prefer to

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>just killed him. But I do think that Cassie's gonna

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>write a really good story. She's gonna have a really

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>good story written for her, and her sister's gonna be

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 2>writing it out of spite, and she's going to do

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>it so well and everybody's gonna love it, and then

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 2>she's going to become like this start that she wants

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>to be.

0:42:27.920 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I just want to I agree with Spike. I

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.880
<v Speaker 6>do think that that's gonna be a really interesting angle.

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I do want to.

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 6>Take the rare opportunity to back rod up. I agree

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 6>with him one hundred percent. We we brought that up

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 6>maybe two episodes back when they were doing the interview

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 6>cycle with Cassie, and she was like when they.

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Asked her she does, She's like, I'm not an our

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 2>word or whatever.

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 6>I definitely think that Sam Levinson was was taking cues

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 6>from what she's going through in real life. So I

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 6>do think, in my opinion, that Rod is onto something

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 6>because this just seems too much of a parallel. It's cheesy, Nay,

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 6>I agree with you. It's cheesy, it's corny, and it's

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 6>kind of beneath him as far as writing goes. But

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 6>I do think that that's what they're doing. They're taking

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 6>the opportunity to kind of mimic real life when it

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 6>comes to her, and I don't think it's great. I

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 6>think it's bad for her character and I don't think

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.839
<v Speaker 6>it makes her look good, But I do think that's

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 6>what they're doing.

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, before she deleted her OnlyFans account, she tried to

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>call Nate to see if she can get advice on

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>what she should do moving forward, because she's obviously leaning

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>more towards her acting career or promising acting career.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:51.760
<v Speaker 7>But Nate, he was busy, little he was busy fucking

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 7>up somebody petunias and shit, and then he can chase

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.879
<v Speaker 7>again by the rush whatever.

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Gangster that's been chasing him down.

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Bro, I honestly him shocked again two episodes away from

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the finale, and all Nate has done is just been

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>running around like he's It's Tom and Jerry, you know

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like he's an Academy Award nominated actor

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like man.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Bro, they would have been better off if they did

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like the old days and just put him in a

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.439
<v Speaker 2>coma in episode one, and he just was like something

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 2>happened to him with attractor roll over him and he

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 2>had been in a coma foot until whenever they decide

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 2>to do something with his character. Because this right here

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:40.040
<v Speaker 2>is bullshit, like it ain't even like you don't even

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 2>have a reaction as a viewer anymore when you see

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the gangster dude coming up to him, like, Bro, this

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't happen. We've seen this, like we understand the scenario.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Please give us a solution to it. We're tired of

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.319
<v Speaker 2>looking at this as viewers. And that's the only thing

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that when they pops up on the scene with that

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 2>guy that I see now it's like this is.

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Not interesting again.

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, OK, he's got to get his ass with

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So No.

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised they haven't killed him yet because why not. Yeah,

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, Like, why are they even playing.

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Around with him? They're saving that. I think Cassie gonna say.

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 6>Now, Nate gonna die. Nate doesn't want to be on

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 6>this show. No more like you said, he's an Academy

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 6>Award winning actor. He does not want to do this

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 6>fucking schlop. You gotta think, like, outside of Rue Well

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 6>and the guy that plays Alamo, but the best actors

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 6>are the most recognized ones on this show. They're relegating

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 6>to like really bad side characters. Like what they're doing

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 6>with Nate is weirdest shit. What they're doing with Jules

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 6>is weirdest shit. It doesn't make any sense. If I

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.879
<v Speaker 6>had to guess, I think that these actors don't want

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 6>to do this. So they're like, look, i'll give you

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 6>twenty percent of what I would normally do. That's all

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna go fill Frankenstein. Okay,

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 6>I can give you an hour. So that's what they

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 6>did with the character. There's no other explanation I can

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 6>think of. Why else would you do this to such

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 6>a great actor.

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. That's a good point. I think

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 3>we brought you.

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you might have brought that a point of

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 5>like earlier on and I was just like, well, you

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 5>know this, they got their start here, so.

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, why wouldn't they help about blah

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah.

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 5>But it does feel like that these are these are

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 5>two of the biggest stars outside of Zada on the show,

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 5>and it's just like, Yo, why are you writing writing

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 5>him this way?

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's it's it's kind of weird.

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Because you think he's jealous.

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if he's jealous or what, but I

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 5>think you're I think it's leaning more so of leaning

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 5>on like what you were saying. They're just not enthusiastic

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.240
<v Speaker 5>about the show anymore, you know what I mean, Like

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 5>like especially being where they are in Hollywood at this

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 5>at this moment, and so yeah, they're just giving.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Like like not.

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 5>Not much percentage when it comes to these roles, and

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 5>he just taking what he can get. He's just taking

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.839
<v Speaker 5>what he can get because I haven't been interested in

0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:14.240
<v Speaker 5>neither one of these characters Jews or I thought Jews

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 5>is gonna be like on some crazy shit.

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 8>You know.

0:47:16.320 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 3>When we said that, they say her, you know what

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, it's gonna be crazy when she gets on screen.

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 3>Hell no, I'm not feeling any of that with her.

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Really, No, you don't.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 1>You don't give a fuck about because I know Mike

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 1>brought up the Jews this episode, or at least her

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>character art this episode.

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 2>You didn't find that intriguing at all.

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I think there is the potential for something intriguing, it's

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 4>just and that's why I feel like this episode was

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 4>so incomplete. Like I feel like they are challenging Jewels

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 4>in a way that could be interesting, like with her

0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 4>identity when it comes to her art, and her identity

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to her relationship with this guy, and

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.240
<v Speaker 4>what life could look for her as a trans woman.

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 4>And I think they have the POTENTI Chill to do

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 4>some really good stuff, but it's just not fleshed out

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:08.040
<v Speaker 4>and they're not doing it. And they're just showing her

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 4>in this apartment like let me see some more fashion

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 4>or something like give me something. I don't want to

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 4>see her in a t shirt, slopping around painting. That's it, like,

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:21.960
<v Speaker 4>give me aund It's yeah, It's just like I feel

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 4>like they have the ability and and I've seen with

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:28.919
<v Speaker 4>her and Rue was really good without saying a whole lot,

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 4>but I still want more about Jewels. Jewels was such

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:36.240
<v Speaker 4>a strong character and the stuff that she's been going

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 4>through has been so complex for her to be so stagnant,

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:40.800
<v Speaker 4>it's weird.

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 2>You didn't.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>You didn't find the fact that she put hands on

0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Ruth to be like, wow, her real life.

0:48:50.080 --> 0:49:00.160
<v Speaker 10>The campus, the campus did a better fellow, her a

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 10>better job.

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 2>That's terrible.

0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, right, for that, it was funny.

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Let for a minute, it was funny.

0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 4>Really hit me.

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you're know this. Basically, I think she was

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 2>a little shocked, really get hit her.

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen nobody shot getting hit like that since

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Taraji was shocked Tyree hit her baby boy.

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 2>That was yeah.

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But my my thing with this is I did like

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 1>that scene because it was like, it seems like, you

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>know how always talking about the hierarchy of yelling at someone,

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>like someone my boss was at me, I yelled at

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>my employee, that kind of thing. I felt like Jules

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>was doing that because she got this last episode by

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>her guy, and now she's putting that anger and frustration

0:49:55.360 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, honestly anxiety onto rue with that hit, Cause

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like everything ru was saying was real.

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:06.319
<v Speaker 2>Talk like he like, what do you what do you own?

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 2>What do you claim? What do you have?

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:08.279
<v Speaker 3>What do you like?

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>You're doing all these things for somebody else who could

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 1>take it all the way?

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 2>He only he don't care about you. He's just trying

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 2>to fuck you.

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was interesting, But I also feel like,

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, Mike, let me know if I'm wrong.

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:20.680
<v Speaker 2>They keep having the same conversation.

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:22.399
<v Speaker 1>They can have the same conversation for like the last

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 1>three four episodes, like do you want me? Do it

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>like if you want me to show me? Or if

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't want me, then why.

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Are you here? Type ship? It's like do they not

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:33.240
<v Speaker 2>have more to talk about?

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I think she's just trying to give They don't because

0:50:36.200 --> 0:50:36.879
<v Speaker 2>they haven't moved.

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Mike, I'm sorry, just don't care.

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you just got to accept I ain't know you said, Mike,

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>my bad the question though, where did you ask?

0:50:56.280 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I was saying, like, I feel like they're having the

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>same conversation over and over in a different way, but

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it's the same one.

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 6>It's like, yes, yes, yes, So you said, do they

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:05.959
<v Speaker 6>have anything else talk about?

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 2>The answer is absolutely not.

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 6>And I think that's the problem that I have with

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.759
<v Speaker 6>the writing, especially with this season, of what they've been

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 6>doing with Jewels. They're relegating Jewels to a side character

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 6>that is only there to benefit Rue.

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:22.760
<v Speaker 2>That entire scene that happened.

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 6>This episode, it was only so they could show how

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:27.320
<v Speaker 6>good of an actor ru is when she gets in

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 6>the elevator and she's crying, because.

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 2>It did not even seem like something that Jewels would do.

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 6>I can see, I can see Jewels getting upset, and

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 6>I can see Jewels getting hurt. I cannot see Jewles

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.920
<v Speaker 6>smacking the shit out of Rule like that and then saying,

0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 6>get the fuck out of my painting. That seemed that

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 6>seemed like Nate. That seemed like a Nate line. That

0:51:51.719 --> 0:51:55.879
<v Speaker 6>didn't seem like Jewles. Now, it didn't seem so out

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 6>of character for Jewels where I was like, this is

0:51:57.760 --> 0:52:00.400
<v Speaker 6>bad writing. The way I'm looking at Nate, it just

0:52:00.400 --> 0:52:03.000
<v Speaker 6>seemed like You're gonna have to give me more of

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 6>what this is.

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 2>How leave well not even necessarily Nick, how we got here.

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 6>There has to be a big payoff for this because

0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm already of the opinion that ru is gonna die

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.399
<v Speaker 6>by the end of this season. So whether it's by

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 6>Od or whether it's going to be one of them

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:26.799
<v Speaker 6>kills her, this scene has to lead to something that

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:27.400
<v Speaker 6>leads to that.

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:30.919
<v Speaker 6>Like if she Od's at the end, because we all

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 6>know that she looks at Jewels like jewels is you know,

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 6>her version of whatever drug she was on. I forget

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 6>what it was, heroin, whatever drug she was on, is

0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 6>that's how she looks at jewels. So for Jewels to

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 6>completely abandon her like this and put hands on her,

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 6>this has to be something big for her. And I

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 6>don't mean like I'm gonna go find God. If that's

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 6>all this is, then fuck this show. If this ends with, oh,

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.719
<v Speaker 6>Jewles just found Jesus. Now she's going to church, get

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 6>the fuck out of here, Sam Levinson, fuck you. This

0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 6>has to lead to something a lot bigger, nothing bigger.

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Than my Jesus. Are you all about to say that?

0:53:10.239 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 3>But you know what I mean?

0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Mike, Did you mean jewels or you mean

0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Rude finding God.

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, I meant to say thank you. I meant

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 6>to say Rude finding God. Yeah, Jews bet not find God.

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 6>That would be weird.

0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:27.760
<v Speaker 2>And ship.

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 6>What you think about the same, Lou.

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I think the conversation has been had several times. I

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 2>agree with you. However, I think they keep having it

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 2>because they haven't come to a resolution. Like she's she's

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 2>she's trying to push Rue to a place where Rue

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.800
<v Speaker 2>will commit to her. I feel like, and she's staying

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 2>with this guy and doing this thing because that's the

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 2>best for her right now. I think when they're having

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 2>this conversation, he's doing the pain, and she's telling Ru

0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 2>about the things that she wants. She's even the door

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 2>open for Ruder to be like, well, I can do

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.799
<v Speaker 2>or want to do those things, So I try to

0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 2>do those things with you. And Rue never steps up

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 2>and does it, even when the conversation that had last

0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:10.640
<v Speaker 2>time and she was asking her do you want to

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 2>come to the shower with me? And she's trying to

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:17.760
<v Speaker 2>push Rude to be more aggressive, to be more directing

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 2>what she wants from her, and their relationship is just

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 2>in this stagnant point, and I think that's why they

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:26.800
<v Speaker 2>keep having this conversation. And I do think that Jeules

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 2>would smack her in this situation because I feel like

0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:30.719
<v Speaker 2>this maybe the end of it. This felt like a

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:35.279
<v Speaker 2>real final conversation, And no, she normally wouldn't do this.

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you might get her character. However, I

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.399
<v Speaker 2>did feel like when this, I'm not sure we see

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Jewels again, like if we only got two episodes she said,

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:45.759
<v Speaker 2>we only got two episodes less, and this is her

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 2>final stand. Then the smack makes sense kind of because

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 2>she's finally tired of Ruth's sitting and she's going to

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 2>accept the life that she's been given.

0:54:53.880 --> 0:54:56.239
<v Speaker 6>Do you think she really wants Rude to do that?

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 6>Because Ruth was offering to do that this episode. I

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.960
<v Speaker 6>think she's playing with it. Oh really, I read it.

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:04.879
<v Speaker 6>I read it differently. I'm sorry, go ahead.

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:10.839
<v Speaker 4>I took it that. Yes, she's been pushing Rue for

0:55:11.280 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 4>all two three seasons to be open about how she felt,

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.400
<v Speaker 4>and I think Ruth finally did. Like Ruth said, she

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 4>saw a life with her. She pretty much asked the

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:24.840
<v Speaker 4>girl to marry her, and I think Jewles has to

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 4>accept that, like you're an addict? Am I actually going

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 4>to be able to have a life with you, which

0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:35.240
<v Speaker 4>has always been her issue with Ruth. So I personally

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.239
<v Speaker 4>feel like this was her saying like, I can't have

0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 4>a life with you. I'm stuck up with this in

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 4>this penthouse, with this crazy man, with this whole family.

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I feel like Jewles is stuck and she

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:47.400
<v Speaker 4>can't get what she wants from any of these situations.

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Hence while she slapped her out of frustration. So I

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 4>agree that I think that this is kind of going

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:57.760
<v Speaker 4>to be the last we see of Jewels until something

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 4>climactic happens, because she can't really have the life she

0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 4>wants with Rue. Is she can't make a life out

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 4>of what she's.

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Doing, So I gotta ask.

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:13.919
<v Speaker 6>So, okay, so for you and Spike, So they said

0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 6>that Jewless or Rue has been cleaned for a while

0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:21.439
<v Speaker 6>and Rue is now presenting what y'all seem to think

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:27.799
<v Speaker 6>Jules has wanted, So why isn't Jules even remotely entertaining it?

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 6>She laughed at her, and Ruth seemed very serious about

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.879
<v Speaker 6>like I want a life with you. I can make

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:39.400
<v Speaker 6>this work, and Jeules just like, really with me, Like

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 6>why is she dismissive of it.

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:44.479
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I would have sorry name real quick.

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the things that Ruth said of why

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>she wants to have that life, to me weren't compelling

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>enough to be like, Okay, this means that you're serious.

0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:58.839
<v Speaker 2>This means that you're ready to handle it, because I.

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Think Jules was questioned like a you're asking for things

0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that like are you sure this is what you want?

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 1>And Rus just like, I just need something that's bigger

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>than me because right now I feel very selfish. I'll

0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>be making a lot of decisions just based off myself.

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>And if I have a kid or i've had this

0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 1>people depend on me, then I can like level up.

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think Jewles was like that sounds like bullshit.

0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know did you get that from that or

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:21.919
<v Speaker 1>was it something else?

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I think that sounds like bullshit. And then we also

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.240
<v Speaker 4>have to remember the last time we remember them together,

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.400
<v Speaker 4>like the way that Jewles just went off on her

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:34.000
<v Speaker 4>and when she was in her spiral. So I need

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:36.439
<v Speaker 4>the impression that they really hadn't dealt with each other

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 4>much since then. So to me, if I was Jules,

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 4>I really don't believe anything you say because the last

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 4>time you got in my face and told me I

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.800
<v Speaker 4>was dead to you and I saw you at your worst,

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know if I can deal with that.

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess I feel what y'all are saying.

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 6>But at the same time, I think there's nothing worse

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 6>than when someone asks you for something over and over

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 6>and over again, and then when you finally give in

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 6>to give it to them, they're like, I don't want

0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 6>it no more. That's my first issue with Jules. My

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.840
<v Speaker 6>second issue with Jules is I feel like, and me included,

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 6>I feel like a lot of us forget that before

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 6>even though Rue didn't really know the extent of the relationship.

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 6>Jeweles did cheat on Rue the last season, and I

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 6>do think that Rue figured it out when she was

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 6>going off on her. So it's not like Jules has

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 6>been the best girlfriend or the best partner. So it

0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 6>just seems odd that in this season she's finally she

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:38.840
<v Speaker 6>being rude, is finally just like, look, I want to

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 6>commit to you, and then Jules laughs about it. It

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 6>just seems like Jules is playing with her, just playing

0:58:45.880 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 6>with her and knowing that she can string her along.

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:53.959
<v Speaker 9>Well.

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>There is that side, but I also feel like, as

0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the audiences we know a lot. If Jules knew what

0:59:02.560 --> 0:59:06.320
<v Speaker 1>we knew, she would still be laughing because Rul can't

0:59:06.360 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 1>even be a She can't even commit to being a snitch.

0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:11.360
<v Speaker 7>Like so she told about you want to commit to me,

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.560
<v Speaker 7>like do one of these jobs good?

0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 3>First?

0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Are you a drug dealer? Are you a stitch?

0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Are you?

0:59:18.400 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Are you a Christian? He's just trying to get by man.

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.960
<v Speaker 1>But but I'm just saying, like, like the things that

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing from Ru is asking like, be careful what

0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>you asked for a lot with Ruby because it's like

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you asking for this, but you can't even juggle the

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.680
<v Speaker 1>ship that you got yet you want to invite Jules

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:37.800
<v Speaker 1>into Like imagine if Jules said, yes, I'll be a

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:40.120
<v Speaker 1>part of you. Then Rue tells everything she's into and

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:41.960
<v Speaker 1>she's like, hey, nah, you should have told me this.

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Left can't judge.

0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 6>She's in a situation much worse.

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 2>But she in the penthouse crime Like she ain't cleaning pig.

0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 6>She wouldn't have wrapped up like a chiloopa nick. She

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:58.200
<v Speaker 6>can't say anything to Rue about what's going on with her.

0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:00.919
<v Speaker 1>She well, at least she ain't watching some six foot

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>nigga wearing a five nine Nigga pants making some five.

1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Like were playing her Olympics right now. It's like they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>If anything, they should have proved that because again we're

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the audience, so we know everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But they shouldn't be together. No, they shouldn't. They shouldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I get like, I guess for me, it's just

1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like having this question asked over and over again.

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:33.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like, haven't y'all figured out that it's a no?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, m hmm, But I guess. I think we'll still

1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:44.280
<v Speaker 1>see jewels between these next episode. I think she's too

1:00:44.480 --> 1:00:48.000
<v Speaker 1>she's too much of a character to to me, especially

1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:51.080
<v Speaker 1>because we don't know how Cousin is gonna act. Because

1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I think there's another scene with Ellis, the guy that

1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:55.520
<v Speaker 1>her sugar daddy. I feel like there's one more scene

1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 1>with them that could be a tipping point that will

1:00:58.560 --> 1:01:06.880
<v Speaker 1>leave us on a cliffhanger. But shut up, Like, but

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<v Speaker 1>before we wrap up, Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>This was all this a ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was a rider in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was heavy on Jesus talk Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of Bibles, there's a lot of Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>References, and it's like she was in the she was

1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:24.000
<v Speaker 1>in the church by herself, but that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best cinematography like scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think how they shot that. And then she literally

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<v Speaker 2>see a burning bush. That was crazy.

1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:40.720
<v Speaker 5>I looked over the nare like was that a burning bush?

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<v Speaker 3>But but no, I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they killed that the whole like church scene

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff especially, like you know, just you start to

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<v Speaker 5>think like is it gonna be another first moment?

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<v Speaker 3>Then we end up seeing her at the end. I

1:01:52.960 --> 1:01:54.000
<v Speaker 3>thought that was really dope.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was that was a major surprise, but I

1:01:57.040 --> 1:01:58.600
<v Speaker 5>didn't think she was still a part of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>So so nah, man, they did a really good job

1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.440
<v Speaker 5>and that and and this this scene, man is where

1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:06.920
<v Speaker 5>I was like, man, you know, how.

1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't that get so good? Like when did this happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Like like she is really really talented and in this

1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:19.320
<v Speaker 5>to be able to execute a scene like that because

1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.320
<v Speaker 5>they uh, because I did see behind the scenes they

1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:23.240
<v Speaker 5>say they weren't talking.

1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:25.240
<v Speaker 3>To each other in that moment or whatever. So she

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<v Speaker 3>was just.

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<v Speaker 5>Straight like kind of improvab not not improv but like

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<v Speaker 5>the straight just kind of going through the dialogue right

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<v Speaker 5>there or whatever. So yeah, man, that that man, she

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<v Speaker 5>killed that.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait, sorry, Rob, what scene you talking about? Who wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>talking to each other and.

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<v Speaker 5>In the in the in the in the in the

1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:46.800
<v Speaker 5>cathedral or whatever talking. Yeah, yeah, that wasn't an actual

1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:48.720
<v Speaker 5>conversation that they were having amongst each other.

1:02:49.120 --> 1:02:51.760
<v Speaker 3>They just was reading reading dialogue. And for her to

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<v Speaker 3>have that much emotion with nobody on the other end

1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:56.200
<v Speaker 3>of the phone was was amazing.

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<v Speaker 9>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>When were your thoughts on on the heavy religious theme

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode name.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it makes sense for somebody, during somebody's

1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:15.640
<v Speaker 4>like a like like sobriety story to get to a

1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:19.840
<v Speaker 4>point where you need some sort of like redemption resolved,

1:03:20.160 --> 1:03:23.160
<v Speaker 4>like to be absolved of the sense of the things

1:03:23.160 --> 1:03:25.400
<v Speaker 4>that you feel like you've done wrong, and to look

1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:28.920
<v Speaker 4>to religion for that or just to cling to something

1:03:29.320 --> 1:03:32.320
<v Speaker 4>to make sense of everything that you're going through. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think that from from the perspective and the character

1:03:35.760 --> 1:03:38.960
<v Speaker 4>of Rule, it makes sense for her to be at

1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:41.840
<v Speaker 4>this point in her journey where she's looking for something deeper.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that the way that they did it

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<v Speaker 4>today is today is like she needed how Oscar moment,

1:03:49.560 --> 1:03:52.160
<v Speaker 4>she got it like this scene like or in me

1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:54.880
<v Speaker 4>whatever the award is but like the scenes that they

1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:58.520
<v Speaker 4>gave her in this episode in particular, and even just

1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:01.680
<v Speaker 4>like the way she walked surround is rude. When she's

1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:04.680
<v Speaker 4>like with with Alimo Brown and them, like she just

1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:08.640
<v Speaker 4>looks like a completely different person then she and then

1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:11.240
<v Speaker 4>she does in person and any other characters, like she

1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:14.960
<v Speaker 4>really embodies this and seeing the pain and like she

1:04:14.960 --> 1:04:18.440
<v Speaker 4>she it was. It was it was visually, it was beautiful.

1:04:18.520 --> 1:04:20.720
<v Speaker 4>What she was talking about was beautiful. The way she

1:04:20.760 --> 1:04:22.760
<v Speaker 4>performed it was beautiful. I thought it was really good.

1:04:22.920 --> 1:04:24.560
<v Speaker 4>They could have did without the burning bush. For me,

1:04:24.600 --> 1:04:26.720
<v Speaker 4>it was a little bit too on the nose. I

1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:29.800
<v Speaker 4>that I don't I don't know where they was going

1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:36.920
<v Speaker 4>with that. So as much as I like that scene,

1:04:36.960 --> 1:04:37.640
<v Speaker 4>I was kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like, too much.

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<v Speaker 4>What has gotta be that dramatic?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yo, you had the same thoughts. Loo No, I liked.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked the cathedral scene with her mom. I would

1:04:54.560 --> 1:04:57.360
<v Speaker 2>have preferred that they cut some fat somewhere else and

1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:01.680
<v Speaker 2>we saw the interaction between her mom and the bodyguard. Dude.

1:05:01.840 --> 1:05:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought there would have been some real good TV.

1:05:03.640 --> 1:05:06.480
<v Speaker 2>But she just I know she's not in the cast

1:05:06.520 --> 1:05:07.920
<v Speaker 2>scene for this season, but I thought that would have

1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:09.720
<v Speaker 2>been good either before the call, after the call, they

1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.680
<v Speaker 2>had just panned over to them a few short words.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that goes a long way for us to

1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:17.280
<v Speaker 2>viewers and be like, damn, what happened there? We're even

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<v Speaker 2>giving us some of the dialogue from me, and I

1:05:18.600 --> 1:05:20.480
<v Speaker 2>thought that would have been really cool. But I do

1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:22.520
<v Speaker 2>agree with y'all. She was in there was a body

1:05:22.560 --> 1:05:25.040
<v Speaker 2>in it. From an acting standpoint, in that system, the

1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:28.320
<v Speaker 2>last scene from a religious standpoint, the cathedral on the

1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:30.280
<v Speaker 2>phone worked. That was great, But the last scene in

1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:32.160
<v Speaker 2>the burning bush, I didn't. I didn't like it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, and Mike, I know you probably agree

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<v Speaker 1>with this, but Zendaya's probably again having a phenomenal year

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<v Speaker 1>as an actor, and I think this show she's if

1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:49.000
<v Speaker 1>she's not carrying this show, she's at least doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hell Like like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how we're even able to have conversations

1:05:55.680 --> 1:05:57.840
<v Speaker 1>about other side characters and all that, because it's like

1:05:57.920 --> 1:06:00.240
<v Speaker 1>they're not even matching anything that today they like you

1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:02.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about having other people are just given twenty percent?

1:06:03.000 --> 1:06:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Why can you explain any wise? And Day is given

1:06:05.160 --> 1:06:06.959
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten for this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she can't help it exactly. I think

1:06:09.840 --> 1:06:12.800
<v Speaker 2>she she can't help it. Yep, like she's in her

1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:14.480
<v Speaker 2>bag and everything that she's been doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I agree with's like a hundred. Well just on

1:06:20.320 --> 1:06:23.480
<v Speaker 6>that aspect of, yeah, she can't help, but be this good.

1:06:23.680 --> 1:06:26.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't even think she has to try at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just that good. Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>As far as the thing with Bishop, I don't know

1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:32.480
<v Speaker 6>that I needed that because I don't know if I

1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:36.760
<v Speaker 6>believe Bishop. I believe that he knows. I believe Bishop

1:06:36.760 --> 1:06:39.520
<v Speaker 6>knows who her mother is. I believe Bishop knows the

1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:41.560
<v Speaker 6>name of her mother and where her mother lives. I

1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:46.600
<v Speaker 6>don't know if Bishop actually already visited her. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>because there's not there's not really a reason for him

1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:52.000
<v Speaker 6>to have done that yet. But I could see why

1:06:52.040 --> 1:06:55.840
<v Speaker 6>he would threaten it, so I know she go ahead's money.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he did just from the snake story.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the snake story was relevant to him going

1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to see her mom. It's like, I don't know what's

1:07:05.520 --> 1:07:08.160
<v Speaker 2>going on. Like I think he's telling me, I don't

1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.160
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on with you. But we are doing

1:07:10.320 --> 1:07:13.360
<v Speaker 2>the research. We're making sure that everything checks out, and

1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:15.720
<v Speaker 2>you're thinking that you may be sliding by, but eventually

1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get eight, like the snake story that he told.

1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:19.760
<v Speaker 2>So I think him saying I went to go see

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<v Speaker 2>your mom and them having a conversation because her mom

1:07:21.960 --> 1:07:24.320
<v Speaker 2>wasn't talking to her, like say, they hadn't had a conversation.

1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:26.200
<v Speaker 2>She didn't even think that was her calling. She thought

1:07:26.200 --> 1:07:28.320
<v Speaker 2>it was the cops, which I'm sure you know I

1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:32.080
<v Speaker 2>have to repeat that. However, even her mom calling her

1:07:32.080 --> 1:07:33.760
<v Speaker 2>out of the blue and her happening to be in

1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:35.439
<v Speaker 2>the church, I thought all of that was really good,

1:07:35.480 --> 1:07:38.840
<v Speaker 2>and I think seeing what that sparked from would have

1:07:38.880 --> 1:07:42.080
<v Speaker 2>been good for us as viewers, because her mom's not

1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:45.080
<v Speaker 2>talking to her, and I think that Bishop visit what

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<v Speaker 2>sparked the mom to be like, well, this random weird guy,

1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:51.200
<v Speaker 2>come tell me my daughter is doing okay. And just

1:07:51.240 --> 1:07:53.600
<v Speaker 2>seeing her mom's reaction and how she worried about Rue,

1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:55.840
<v Speaker 2>knowing that she hasn't talked to her, that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been really compelling for me.

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<v Speaker 6>So the first thing is, I guess I believe you

1:08:03.120 --> 1:08:05.760
<v Speaker 6>one hundred per I guess I don't remember that the

1:08:05.800 --> 1:08:07.960
<v Speaker 6>mother called Rue. For some reason, I that Rue called

1:08:07.960 --> 1:08:10.000
<v Speaker 6>the mother. But I'm sure you're right. I'm sure you're right.

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<v Speaker 6>But I feel like if this weird dude, knowing what

1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:15.720
<v Speaker 6>Rue has been up to in the past, if this

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<v Speaker 6>weird dude came to her house and was just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to let you know that your daughter's okay,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like she would have said, like, Yo, this

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<v Speaker 6>guy came by the house and was talking about you.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like she would have said that.

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<v Speaker 6>Now we can understand also that the actress, I forget

1:08:34.240 --> 1:08:36.880
<v Speaker 6>her name, Nina, I forget her last name. She's amazing too,

1:08:37.120 --> 1:08:38.559
<v Speaker 6>but she wanted nothing to do with this. From what

1:08:38.640 --> 1:08:42.200
<v Speaker 6>I can tell, I don't think that they had the

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<v Speaker 6>opportunity or even the option to make this a longer scene.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 6>I just I feel like Bishop thinks that she's a rat,

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<v Speaker 6>which is why he did the whole rat and the

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<v Speaker 6>snake story. But I just don't know if he's telling

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<v Speaker 6>the truth that I went and visited your mother and

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<v Speaker 6>we had a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>He can do that without rebelling that he has any

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<v Speaker 5>association or rule said one more time.

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<v Speaker 3>He can do that without rebaling that he has any

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<v Speaker 3>association or R do what just go tear or visit.

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<v Speaker 3>He could come up as like a like a Jehovah's witches.

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<v Speaker 6>No, he said, he said he told her that he

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<v Speaker 6>was okay, he were doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Oh I missed that part because I do agree.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he could have just popped by and just been like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I just wanted to give you this pamphlet and then

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<v Speaker 6>leave or whatever. But that's not what he did. That's

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<v Speaker 6>not what he said he did. At least that's what

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<v Speaker 6>I'm saying. I don't know if I believe his story

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<v Speaker 6>all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what would have been so compelling about that,

1:09:39.400 --> 1:09:43.120
<v Speaker 2>saying her just being completely confused because of what you said, Like,

1:09:43.200 --> 1:09:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I know my child, I know the stuff that she

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<v Speaker 2>gets into when you got this weird dude here telling

1:09:48.560 --> 1:09:51.160
<v Speaker 2>me that she's doing okay, let me call her. I

1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:54.760
<v Speaker 2>ain't talk to her when been in communication. Yeah, I'm concerned.

1:09:55.720 --> 1:09:58.479
<v Speaker 2>And I could also see him relating to messages and

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to tell her I stopped by and

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<v Speaker 2>her thinking and in danger if she does do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that I think that would have been really

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<v Speaker 2>compelling TV.

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<v Speaker 4>So I feel like this is another reason why I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like this whole rat storyline, because you're doing all

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<v Speaker 4>of these different things in your head that kind of

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<v Speaker 4>makes the story better than it actually is. But what

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<v Speaker 4>I will say is that remember, Rue has the cops

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<v Speaker 4>in her phone as mom, and before they buried her,

1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:33.439
<v Speaker 4>they took her phone. So that's why I thought put

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<v Speaker 4>the two together that his mother, her mother called her,

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<v Speaker 4>and Bishop was behind it in some kind of way

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out if that number that's in her phone

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<v Speaker 4>as mom is actually her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that Ruth deleted deleted that number because like

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<v Speaker 1>remember because uh, this episode also has the cops not

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<v Speaker 1>only watching the meet up between Laurie and Alamo, but

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<v Speaker 1>Rue obviously recorded that conversation as well, so that they

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<v Speaker 1>got it, they understand what the plan is. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think when they were under the bridge that night that

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<v Speaker 1>Rude got rid of the number and just kept her

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<v Speaker 1>mom's number, or she still had the boy's number even

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<v Speaker 1>though the boys said, like you were doing for now.

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<v Speaker 4>Before they met she met the cops under the bridge,

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<v Speaker 4>some number was mom that was actually the cops was before.

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<v Speaker 4>If she did delete it, they would have had it

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<v Speaker 4>before that.

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<v Speaker 2>God. Even when she answered she said that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>this was someone else, so she still.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the phone, so you think that also, so you'll

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<v Speaker 1>think that Bishop knows for a fact she's a round.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that, but she has the number on

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<v Speaker 2>her phone because when she answered, she said, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you were someone else, and the mom earlier had mom

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<v Speaker 2>won beside it, this one just said mom. Also, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that cops scene was interesting in the sense of

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<v Speaker 2>they never gave her a real answer, and usually when

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<v Speaker 2>you a confidentional in form it, that's not how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get to tell and the case over when

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<v Speaker 2>you leave. Now they have leverage on you and they

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<v Speaker 2>start using you for other cases. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting that they were very vague and when she was like, oh,

1:12:06.439 --> 1:12:08.240
<v Speaker 2>it's over, and they were like, well, we'll let you know,

1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Like something else is going to come from that. In

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, I thought that was.

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<v Speaker 5>To your point though, like how they when they say

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<v Speaker 5>we'll let you know, when you said that, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 5>always going to be a slash.

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<v Speaker 3>They can always come back. Yeah, Yeah, that's how I

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<v Speaker 3>took that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah me too. Okay, so we want to say, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they ain't letting her go.

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<v Speaker 6>Did we talk about the I know a couple of

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<v Speaker 6>folks did. Did everybody already talk about the burning bush thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, seem like yeah, I was the only one that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't everybody. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I didn't talk on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, go ahead, Ron, I'll go after you.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they said it was a little bit on

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<v Speaker 3>the nose, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't know if I thought it was

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<v Speaker 5>too much of the nose because I don't know if

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<v Speaker 5>they were saying it in the sense of the burning

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<v Speaker 5>bush and the the uh, the reasoning behind it, because

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like it was more so it's a sign,

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<v Speaker 5>like it was almost like a sign for her, like okay,

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<v Speaker 5>am I actually on the right path of doing all

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<v Speaker 5>this stuff? Like I don't know, like like it just

1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:18.920
<v Speaker 5>it does leave it up for question, like whether whether

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<v Speaker 5>she's on the right path or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like this scene. I thought it was cool.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, obviously we're not supposed to I know none

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<v Speaker 6>of y'all are saying this, but obviously we're not supposed

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<v Speaker 6>to think that this is reality that you know, she

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<v Speaker 6>really fell out the car and there was a burning bush.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think for someone like Rue that's always looking

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<v Speaker 6>for something. You know, she went to Jules because she

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<v Speaker 6>thought Jewels was a something.

1:13:47.320 --> 1:13:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Jewles pimps laughter. She left, and now she's still looking

1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:51.840
<v Speaker 2>for this thing.

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<v Speaker 6>And she's been talking about Jesus since the first episode.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think her falling out of the car and

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<v Speaker 6>then just seeing this sign that tells her that she has.

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<v Speaker 2>Some sort of bigger purpose. I just don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>that bigger purpose is.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's the reason I do kind of agree with

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<v Speaker 6>Rob that it wasn't too on the nose, because if

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<v Speaker 6>we look up the story of what the burning bush was,

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<v Speaker 6>what are they going to do with that here? You know, like,

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<v Speaker 6>is she going to be the leader for one of

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<v Speaker 6>these groups? Is she going to be the you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the common denominator between Alamo and Laurie. Is she going

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<v Speaker 6>to be the one that gets them to stop fighting.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what this whole burning bush thing even

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<v Speaker 6>means in respect to this show. So the way it ended,

1:14:38.920 --> 1:14:41.840
<v Speaker 6>I actually felt really intrigued, like more intrigued.

1:14:41.520 --> 1:14:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Than I felt with Euphoria in a long time.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm really curious to see where they go with

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<v Speaker 6>this because I thought her almost dying by getting hit

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<v Speaker 6>with the car pulling off and then seeing that, I

1:14:53.840 --> 1:14:57.640
<v Speaker 6>was like, oh, I'll fuck with this. I thought it

1:14:57.680 --> 1:15:03.479
<v Speaker 6>was good. Yeah, I mean I still fuck with the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought that, like, all right, we already had

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<v Speaker 1>her in church and had it, you know, we finally

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<v Speaker 1>got to see her mama for the first time in

1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a long time. That that was enough for me. So

1:15:12.000 --> 1:15:14.040
<v Speaker 1>anything on top of that was just like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>is just to drive.

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<v Speaker 2>The point home.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do believe that there will be some awakening

1:15:23.760 --> 1:15:25.680
<v Speaker 1>for Rue by the time we get to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. I just don't know if it will

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<v Speaker 1>be the thing that she's again what she's really asking for.

1:15:33.400 --> 1:15:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Like I think she's she's looking for something to give

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<v Speaker 1>her purpose in a positive direction, but clearly she's been

1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:41.000
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of negative shit. And I think she

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<v Speaker 1>also mentioned in this episode she was like, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to think about progressing when you keep reflecting on all

1:15:46.479 --> 1:15:49.760
<v Speaker 1>the bad you've done, you know, And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that was something of a cute I was gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>us know, like, Okay, this is still going to be

1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:54.960
<v Speaker 1>a big struggle for her.

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<v Speaker 6>But you have to also remember that that scene directly

1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:02.719
<v Speaker 6>followed or maybe not directly follow but it came after

1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:04.479
<v Speaker 6>the cops telling her she did a good job, and

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<v Speaker 6>then she said, like no one ever tells me that,

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<v Speaker 6>like no one ever compliments Rue.

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<v Speaker 2>Rue is a perpetual fuck up.

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<v Speaker 6>So I thought it was interesting that she is looking

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<v Speaker 6>for some kind of positive sign, but it followed right

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<v Speaker 6>after the cops telling her she did a really good job.

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<v Speaker 2>You really think she going die this season?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I think I think she's gonna die at the

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<v Speaker 6>end of the season, and either they're gonna pick the

1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:34.160
<v Speaker 6>story up with someone else or they're just gonna end

1:16:34.160 --> 1:16:37.439
<v Speaker 6>the show. But they it seems like what they're doing

1:16:37.520 --> 1:16:43.120
<v Speaker 6>right now doesn't doesn't lead to a third wait, fifth

1:16:43.240 --> 1:16:46.000
<v Speaker 6>or fifth. Fourth season doesn't lead to a fourth season.

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<v Speaker 6>It just doesn't make any sense. I think Root needs

1:16:49.120 --> 1:16:52.040
<v Speaker 6>to die, Roo needs to die, Nate needs to die,

1:16:52.080 --> 1:16:52.800
<v Speaker 6>The show needs to die.

1:16:52.840 --> 1:16:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, if I'm.

1:16:56.000 --> 1:16:58.360
<v Speaker 11>Where else they can go the way they're going with

1:16:58.360 --> 1:17:01.280
<v Speaker 11>this show, they're gonna have her down across somehow, somewhere.

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<v Speaker 11>It's gonna be needles in her arm, not nails.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike had a burning bush on the four oh five.

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<v Speaker 1>Randomly, it wasn't no lightning, no nothing, something gonna happen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like we're all still intrigued with the upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>y'all know my favorite word, penultimate episode of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh next week. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to I'm willing to go on a limb

1:17:41.160 --> 1:17:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and say that they're going to stick some kind of

1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:45.479
<v Speaker 1>landing here. I think they got a lot of ship

1:17:45.479 --> 1:17:49.639
<v Speaker 1>that's up in the air. I understand it's going against them,

1:17:49.680 --> 1:17:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and we all know about the vacccine production hell that

1:17:52.240 --> 1:17:55.320
<v Speaker 1>they've gone through to make this season, but I feel

1:17:55.320 --> 1:17:58.559
<v Speaker 1>like with everything we just talked about, it has to

1:17:58.680 --> 1:18:01.200
<v Speaker 1>end on like some type of crazy Oh my goodness,

1:18:01.280 --> 1:18:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I can't wait for the next season if there

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<v Speaker 1>is one.

1:18:05.880 --> 1:18:07.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I think they'll make it safe.

1:18:08.280 --> 1:18:10.360
<v Speaker 6>They know that there might not be another season, so

1:18:10.400 --> 1:18:12.759
<v Speaker 6>they're gonna make it to where the story is fairly

1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:17.760
<v Speaker 6>wrapped up, but they could potentially stretch it out if

1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:18.720
<v Speaker 6>they if they can.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>To gods.

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<v Speaker 12>Today, I just got a quick question for y'all, Like

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<v Speaker 12>Lavers put out a song like this week and they

1:18:37.000 --> 1:18:38.880
<v Speaker 12>like still fits the theme over before it has the

1:18:38.960 --> 1:18:41.120
<v Speaker 12>music still been taking all out because when you.

1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Released that song, it made it even more evident for

1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:45.240
<v Speaker 1>me this like this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say, I don't like the music and

1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:51.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't like this cowboy western thing that they're doing,

1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:54.200
<v Speaker 4>and they land they stuck with really heavy, like drawing

1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:55.880
<v Speaker 4>out a lot of I don't, I don't. I'm not

1:18:55.920 --> 1:19:00.320
<v Speaker 4>feeling that I don't like western, So that wasn't that

1:19:00.400 --> 1:19:02.760
<v Speaker 4>wasn't doing it for me, and then kind of fits

1:19:02.840 --> 1:19:04.960
<v Speaker 4>that theme and I'm not here for it that to.

1:19:04.920 --> 1:19:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Your point, like they haven't made it.

1:19:06.400 --> 1:19:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I know they're in California and they're they're showing the

1:19:09.960 --> 1:19:12.599
<v Speaker 1>greater California area as opposed to the first two seasons

1:19:12.600 --> 1:19:15.600
<v Speaker 1>where it was like city life suburban life. But like

1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>even when they started this episode with Alamo, it was

1:19:17.880 --> 1:19:19.080
<v Speaker 1>heavy cowboy.

1:19:18.800 --> 1:19:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Influences and all the other shit. I was like, come on, bro,

1:19:22.040 --> 1:19:25.120
<v Speaker 2>we getting They said that in the beginning of the

1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:28.800
<v Speaker 2>season it was supposed to be spaghetti western heavily influenced,

1:19:28.840 --> 1:19:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and that's it's not working. And to your points, you

1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:34.400
<v Speaker 2>had to know the song, like the songs were part

1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:35.960
<v Speaker 2>of it, and I know we said this, that was part

1:19:35.960 --> 1:19:38.240
<v Speaker 2>of the experience of watching this show, just like it

1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:42.439
<v Speaker 2>is with Insecure, and they just completely stripped it down

1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:44.360
<v Speaker 2>of that and you can totally tell.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy because Hans Zimmer is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing the score or the music for the Saint. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like that motherfucker got like twenty Academy Awards, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like not real, but I guess like you getting a

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<v Speaker 1>sixty plus year old white man to score a millennial

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<v Speaker 1>show like.

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<v Speaker 2>Choice, if y'all get a change.

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<v Speaker 12>I got that new Labor song because it is Western,

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<v Speaker 12>but it does sound more like you for you, like

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<v Speaker 12>you just listening just like this would.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I think you did it on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>He released it just.

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<v Speaker 2>To be like, this is the idea I had and

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<v Speaker 2>he just couldn't. Like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>What y'all could have had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's his name?

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<v Speaker 6>La Labor. I'm not interested in digging into their beef.

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<v Speaker 6>It's just like at this point, I just don't care.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not getting Labyrinth songs in the show anymore. So

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<v Speaker 6>it's just like, but I do think they them picking

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<v Speaker 6>Hans Zimmer, They've probably thought by name it would make sense,

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<v Speaker 6>but it's not making sense.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>The Labyrinth is dope though. Any other thoughts on this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>No, really not for me, damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Im I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>You ain't gonna speak and say I don't have no thoughts.

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<v Speaker 6>That says something. I don't have no thoughts.

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, they done with your as, Mike, that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we well those are ours and rods thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Please let us know what you guys think.

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<v Speaker 1>FBS podcast is a Reddit thread that's also our handle

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<v Speaker 1>for I G and Twitter. And yes, we'll catch you

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<v Speaker 1>on next week's episode. We got too left As we

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up this season, let us again, please please let

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<v Speaker 1>us know your thoughts and theories.

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<v Speaker 2>But we out peace,