1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: So what does one point seven billion dollars get you. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: We'll get you this fabulous city of Indianapolis. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Casing so fabulous. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: So it was interesting yesterday I was trying to go 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: to the Fountain Square area and to do that I 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 3: had to get through construction on the west side, and 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: then it cleared out for a little bit, and then 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: by the time I got to the Fountain Square area 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: there was more construction. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: And then on my. 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: Way home, I drove by the Fountain Square homeless encampment. 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Formerly known as Luger Plaza. 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, and there was zombie Oh. 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: No, no, you're saying different than the one. 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm talking about by fountains. 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's the one they're supposed to be cleaning 17 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: up right. Yes, good, They're so think about our city. 18 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: It's so poorly run. You have to identify the homeless case. 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: Which one I'm talking about. 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: It was interesting because there was a long line of 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: cars going in the same direction because of the construction, 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: and there was zombie guy standing very close to the 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: cars with his handout, and it was I was focusing 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: on not hitting him, right because he kept inching closer 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: and closer to the traffic. 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: Well, what is fascinating. And again I come back to this, 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: and I know I've used this example numerous times, but 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: it is the best thing I've ever heard about how 29 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: this city is run. Is when Ryan Hedrick came on 30 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: with US News WBC Newsman Extraordinaire and was talking about 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: which he is very very candid about, the supporting Sobriety 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: podcast that he does with Matt Behar, where they talk 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: about both of those guys have struggled with various addictions 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: and they're very transparent about it and how they overcame 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: those and he said, he said, I recognize attics. I 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: was one. And he said, Joe Hogshet runs the city 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: of Indianapolis the same way I ran my life when 38 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: I was in the throes of addiction. He said, everything 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: is chaos, nothing is done, nothing gets finished. He'll It'll 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: always get done tomorrow, and the stuff just builds up. 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: And if you look at this city, whatever gets done, 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: not even done, well, whatever gets done, it's just one 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: headache and nightmare on top of another headache and nightmare. 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: And whether it's roads, the construction, the homelessness problem, obviously 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: violence on top of that not that's that's also a 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: public safety issue. There's no part of the City of 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Indianapolis where you say this is really well done. This 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: is this is we're getting good value for our money. 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: We're not even getting, you know, moderate value for our money. 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: And now we have this new one point seven billion 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: dollar budget that's being presented. And do you have any you, 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: as you are the best person ask because you're you're 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: an Indianapolis resident, as a resident of the City of Indianapolis, 54 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: do you have any faith that if the budget were 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: two point nine billion it. 56 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Would be any different? 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Right? Exactly? 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you know, you and I were kind of 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: going back of worth about this last night and you 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: said that gunshot or firework could come to an end. 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: Really that's great news. I mean, that would be great 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: if that were to happen. So the budget is described 63 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 3: by the mayor as fully balanced. 64 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: Oh are you gonna do that again? 65 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: Fully balanced? 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: Rob, as we started our program with. And I have 67 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: less energy in the eleven hour than I do at 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: the nine hours, So I'll do this something more calm, 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: a more calm. You did that just to try to 70 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: make me mad. No, as nice as I've been to 71 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: you today, you're starting the eleven o'clock hour with this, 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: I've gone out of my way to be overly nice 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: to you today, and now you're going to do something 74 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: that you know will deliberately make me upset. So, as 75 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: we started the show with, nothing makes me more angry 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: than when a state or local politician talks about how 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: they honestly balance or their budget honestly balances, or how 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: they balance their budget. They want you to believe, look 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: at what a good steward they're being with our money. 80 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Couldn't Washington run more like the city of Indianapolis When 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: the reality is and they know this, although I don't 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: know if hogs that knows hogseet may not actually know this, 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: but any politician, local, potician worth anything knows they are required. 84 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: States and cities are required to balance their budget. They 85 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: can't print money, they're not the federal government, and so 86 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: they take something that they're required to do and they 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: go give us a pat on the bag. 88 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Look what we did through the thing we're required to do. 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So some major investments they include public safety, infrastructure, 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: economic development. 91 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Housing, and quality of life. 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: And public safety is the largest budget category with over 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: six hundred and ninety eight million dollars allocated. It's a 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: six percent increase from last year. 95 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Here's the problem, and this is what he's going to do. 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: You watch he's going to present this and go look 97 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: at all the money we're pumping into public safety. The 98 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: problem is not resources in the sense of you catch them, 99 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: and then what right You catch these guys and a 100 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: lot of them end up back out on the street, 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: a lot of them end up with rather meaningless sentences, 102 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity in the near not too distant future to 103 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: be back out doing the thing that they do. And 104 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's the public safety solution is 105 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: a three pronged approach. It's not just the cops catching 106 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: these guys. It's the prosecutor's office giving them the sentences 107 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: they deserve, and it's or recommending the sentences that they deserve. 108 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: And then it's also the judicial system going forward with 109 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: those recommendations. And unless everybody's working in cohots with each 110 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: other to push that football forward, it doesn't matter. You 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: can throw all one point seven billion of the budget 112 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: at it and and okay, you apprehend them, but if 113 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: they're right back out on the street, they're not going 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: to fear being apprehended. 115 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 3: Public Works will receive two hundred and fifty seven million dollars. 116 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: That's a four percent increase in funding. And the City 117 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: County Council they're going to meet at seven o'clock and 118 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: then they'll have a month of. 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: Public committee meetings. 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so I follow, and then they'll get input and 121 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: then they'll just ask. 122 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: It, does you say what the budget was the year before? 123 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Do we know like what the overall budget increase was? 124 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: Because the question that I would have if I were 125 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: a member of the City County Council would be what 126 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: are we getting for the increase in money? Like, how 127 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: do you, mister mayor in this case, how. 128 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: Do you one point six last year? 129 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so see how let's see how far out my 130 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: calculator goes. Are you ready? Can I get one point 131 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: six billion? Let's say if I could do it, this'll 132 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: be fun. I sure can. Oh, okay, well I can 133 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: just do it this way. I don't That was stupid. 134 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: This is great radio. Here's I'm doing math on the air. 135 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: So you're going from one point six billion? 136 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Is that? What is what percent increase is that if. 137 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: You take one point seven this year? 138 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: So if you take I mean, what is that that's 139 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: about a four or five percent budget increase it I 140 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: mean basically roughly, So, what are you getting for the 141 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: additional dollars in every facet of our allocation of resources? 142 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: What's the guarantee or at least the standard by which 143 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: we judge if. 144 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: You're getting a return? 145 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: Right, if this has been successful, and you oftentimes don't 146 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: get that with government, sure we're going to put the 147 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: money at it. And then the standard is what yeh 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: You notice they'll never say our target judges buy can 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: we reduce homicides to one hundred and seventy five? Can 150 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: we reduce them to one hundred and sixty five? This 151 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: is what we believe you will get as a taxpayer. 152 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: And of course they can't do that because they know 153 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: that you could put five hundred new cops out there 154 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: and they ain't gonna be able to stop it if 155 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: the people don't fear the punishment. 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: So it makes you ask, what does success look like? 157 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: Can we talk about what's going on with Indigo. They 158 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: secured that one hundred and forty nine million dollar federal 159 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: grant for the Blue Line they've been working on that 160 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: the line's going to span twenty four miles connects Indianapolis 161 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: the airport and then go all the way down through 162 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: Washington Street. The line will include thirty stations and sixty 163 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: foot hybrid buses. Okay, so operating twenty hours per weekday. 164 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: This is a great example of what I'm talking about. 165 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: How much money? How much money? 166 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: Well, the grant was one hundred and forty nine thousand, 167 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: but that's not the total the total amount of money. 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: The total project costs is estimated estimated at three hundred 169 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: and ninety six million. 170 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: Okay, three und ninety six million dolls. So this is 171 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: a great example. There's an old saying called rearranging the 172 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: deck chair on the Titanic, and what that essentially means 173 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: is you're in the throes of chaos and you're doing 174 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: meaningless stuff that doesn't help anything, And this is an 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: example of that. Think about just pretend that all that 176 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: got allocated to road or travel related stuff. So we'll 177 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: take public safety at all out of the equation. Look 178 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: at the condition of our roads, the sidewalks, the ability 179 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: to try to drive in your automobile, and you're going 180 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: to take the opportunity. Now, they wouldn't have been able 181 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: to secure all of that because some of that is 182 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: specifically delegated to the Blue line. But none of these 183 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: lines have been a resounding success. You look at them, 184 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: and we see them every day. There's hardly anybody on there. 185 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: You look at the bus stops and there's hardly anybody there. 186 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: It is a massive taxpayer funded subsidy on top of 187 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: what it cost to build. And now we're going to 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: do it on steroids with something that runs from the 189 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: airport to downtown Indianapolis. Hey, it's called Uber. And what 190 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: they are doing is they are taking one of the 191 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: great charms what was once one of the great charms 192 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: of the city of Indianapolis, which was the ability of 193 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: ease of travel for a major metropolitan city. And you 194 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: are gutting the ability to do that. You're gutting the 195 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: ability for people to be able to find on street parking, 196 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: your ability of people to travel to be the pace 197 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: at which they can travel. And again for something that 198 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: the public doesn't appear to be clamoring for. And we've 199 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: spent all of this money now when it could have 200 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: been used for things that people actually need, such as 201 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: roads and bridges and sidewalks being done in a more timely, better. 202 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: Manner service is expected to launch late twenty twenty eight, 203 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: so it's going to be a while. 204 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, i'd like to launch that service. How about that. 205 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 206 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: They said, Okay, so you have some uplifting news on 207 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: how bad the young people are with the money. 208 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: Sixty two percent of gen Z have noh emergency savings. 209 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: That's nearly double the rate of baby boomers. 210 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so what wait, wait, wait wait wait what is 211 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: jin z? Do we know? What? Like the thorn after you? 212 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: So I'm at the I'm an older millennial, but I'm 213 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: in the millennial group. keV, do we know? What are you? 214 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: What are you? Kevin? Are you? 215 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: I've always heard I'm millennial because I'm at the very end. 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So this would be people in their late twenty 217 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: Oh you got a number. 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: Born between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve. 219 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect. So basically people in terms of disposable income 220 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: twenty like. Well, it's to say, let's give you four 221 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: years of college, so you basically twenty three to twenty 222 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: eight is who we're talking about here in terms of 223 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: people who should be in some capacity functioning independently. And 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: I get Look, I get a lot of people still 225 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: live at home. I get all that, But you should 226 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: be able to, in terms of your finances, be with 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: some degree operating with independence. I mean, it's not any way. 228 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: If you're twenty four and living home, that's not an 229 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: indictment on you. I'm just saying, wherever you live, you 230 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: should be paying bills. You should be operating with financial independence. 231 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: And what you're saying is from those people. Let's just 232 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: say twenty three to twenty eight years old, what percentage? 233 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: Sixty two percent have no savings? Yes, have no emergency 234 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: savings at all. 235 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 236 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the shocking part to me. Gen 237 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: X they're claiming, which is the one older than you? 238 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: That's right, which is me? 239 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: Are the least prepared for long term financial shocks? They say, 240 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: seventy four percent lack more than six months of savings. 241 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: That's that's crazy because let's see what gen X is like, 242 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: what's seven sixty five? Sixty five? Is that right? 243 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 244 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Through eighty two or eighty three or whatever. No, because 245 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: I'm not an ex eighty one or whatever anyway, So 246 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about people in their fifties and sixties with 247 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: that number. 248 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Sixty five to eighty gen X. 249 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: Sixty five to eighty perfect, thank you. So you're looking 250 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: at if you were born in ninety sixty five, you'd 251 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: be sixty years old. I you're born in nineteen eighty 252 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: and be forty five. So basically between the ages of 253 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: sixty and forty five, who have what. 254 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: Percentage seventy four percent lack more than six months' worth 255 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 3: of saving. 256 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: That's unbelievably scary. 257 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: These are people that are tiptoeing up to retirement. 258 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, and they've had their entire lives to 259 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: get their like the younger people, Okay, not good, right, 260 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: but theoretically you have time. You have time, but you 261 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: also have not everybody, but you have in theory access 262 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: to resources. If you get in trouble, your parents, family members, whatever, 263 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: so you could go to that. If you're sixty years old, 264 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: you probably don't have any of that. You're probably basically 265 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: your own sort of lifeline. 266 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: There so and more depressing, two thirds of all consumers 267 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: have just six months or less in emergency savings. 268 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Two thirds of all, regardless of age. Yeah, okay, so we're. 269 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: Not prepared to live past six months. 270 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have pondered this question before and I will 271 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: I will ask it again. How does how does how 272 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: do people like Kevin like? How does it work for them? 273 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: We've had this conversation numerous times before and no one 274 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: can give me an answer. And it's not a blame 275 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: of people Kevin's age. Kevin goes to work every day. 276 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Kevin is a good employee for the most part. I'm 277 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: kidding Kevin. And Kevin has side gigs right his band, 278 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: he does production for podcasts. Kevin's doing all the things. 279 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: But because one life is so expensive, and two access 280 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: to capital has become so difficult. How do people Kevin's 281 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: age who are trying to do things the right way? People, 282 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking people the late twenties, early thirties, how do 283 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: they move ahead? How do they move up? Nobody can 284 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: really lay out to me and answer on how that works. 285 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully an emergency won't come his way or your way, 286 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: because nearly half of gen Z and millennials say that 287 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: they would go over their credit card limit if they 288 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: had an emergency. 289 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Well, this is they don't have the savings. 290 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: This is part of the issue too, though, is it's 291 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: easy to say inflation and expenses and whatever, but we 292 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: have done a horrible job in our society of teaching 293 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: people how to manage their money, how to avoid the 294 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: pitfalls of the credit card, the payday loans, those things, 295 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: and people find out real quick that life is not 296 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: one giant merry go round, right, and you've got to 297 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: be prepared for some really bad stuff to happen, or 298 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: you're going to get behind the eight ball and you're 299 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: going to spend years, years digging out of this. And 300 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: that's that ONNUS sets on a society that we've allowed 301 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: the public education system to not educate kids properly on 302 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: how to manage money and the realities of money and 303 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: the importance of knowing how to manage money. 304 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: There's a competition that's growing, and it's the quarterback competition 305 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: with Anthony Richardson. He returned to practice on Saturday after 306 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: he dislocated his pinky. 307 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Now that looks gruesome, but he is apparently so. Anthony 308 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Richardson is the presumed starting quarterback for the Colts. This 309 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: is about our third year of being tired of dealing 310 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: with him, but I guess they're going to give him 311 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: one more shot. At this and he got injured on 312 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the first play of the of the preseason and it 313 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: was a horrible dislocation. Now apparently he's come back, he's 314 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: practicing counselor he didn't do great, but of course he 315 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: also had a dislocated pinky. But you know what's fascinting. 316 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this because we don't talk sports 317 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: a lot unless it has societal implications. And you think 318 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: about because the public is forced into investing in a 319 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: professional sports team, in this case, the Colts, that your investment, 320 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: because the whole premise of investing and the Colts is, Oh, 321 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: the economic development that that will create, the economic driver 322 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: that it will be, Oh people be coming downtown blah 323 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: blah blah. Now I've yet to understand how me and 324 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: Brownsburg how that benefits me that people go to downtown Indianapolis. 325 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: But whatever, let's just accept it on its premise, which 326 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. But okay, so you're paying higher taxes. Everybody 327 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: in the Donut counties other than Morgan County, who has 328 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: the last of the smart people left, are paying higher 329 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: taxes for Lucas Oil Stadium and now our investment because 330 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: the investments people were told were judged by coming downtown, 331 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: spending money being a part of the experience. Hinges on 332 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: some twenty two, twenty three, twenty four year old kid 333 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: who can't stay on the field, who takes himself out 334 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: of games and appears to really lack the maturity necessary 335 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: to move a franchise forward. Would you invest in that company, Casey, 336 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: if that was the figurehead? 337 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: Right? No, yeah, you're right, it is. It's putting a 338 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: lot on that one person that's successful. 339 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: That's why I've always said forcing the public to invest 340 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: in sports teams is ridiculous, because nobody would invest in 341 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: a company if the if the figurehead, if the focal 342 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: point of the company had the resume that Anthony Richardson does. 343 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: It's not his fault. He shouldn't have been drafted. He 344 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: wasn't mature enough. The colt should have known that, but 345 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: they did it. But because financially we're on the hook 346 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: for it, we have to care about this guy's inability 347 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: to play competent, consistent football. And it looks starting to 348 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: look like another year of By October, we're gonna have 349 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: a half empty Lucas Oil Stadium and the Boo Birds 350 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: are going to be out. 351 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: So who's who are you counting on the most Richardson Jones. 352 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: You got Riley Leonard. 353 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: You so want Riley Leonard to be good. You for 354 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: a couple for a couple for. 355 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: A couple of reasons. 356 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: One because he was played at Notre Dame, Yes, and 357 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 3: the other was my dad's name was Leonard. 358 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: So you know, yes, I'm rooting for him. 359 00:18:53,880 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: Now, you you you want him to be good for 360 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: the reasons you laid out, And he got a chance 361 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 4: to play in the preseason game. 362 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna read you his snats case. Okay, okay, 363 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: because not steal line from Caddyshack. Not good, you stink 364 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: not good. Twelve of twenty four. That's a fifty percent 365 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: completion rating. That's horrible. Ninety two total yards on twelve passes, 366 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: which comes out to three point eight yards of pass 367 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: that's not good. A zero touchdowns, one interception now doesn't 368 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: look good on paper. 369 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: Down. 370 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: Look, he's a rookie in the NFL, right, I mean 371 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna take forever. And the guy, Look, the guy 372 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: was a phenomenal college player. But he could run past 373 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: and run over people. He ain't running pasted or over 374 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: nobody in the NFL. So you watched him throw the 375 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: ball last year. You know, Casey, I know you love 376 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: the guy, but every time he dropped back to the past, 377 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: you're like, no. 378 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: No, tuck it and run no. 379 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Because when he would throw the ball a lot of 380 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: times it ended up with the other team. 381 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: He'll get better, He'll get better over time. 382 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: You you want him to get better. I know you keep that. 383 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to It's Kennel and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 384 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: While this is interesting, the Indie Star has a new 385 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: piece out about how much of your money house members 386 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: are spending to help themselves get reelected. 387 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: Are you talking about franked mail? 388 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: That's right, So for those of you who don't know 389 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: what we're talking about, it's called franked mail and they 390 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: are basically correspondence paid for by you, the taxpayer. But 391 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: they look like campaign pieces. I mean they step right 392 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: up to the line. I mean it doesn't say vote 393 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: for on it, but you would think it is a 394 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: campaign ad. You get them all the time. I'm sure 395 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: your house whatever so and so is doing blah blah 396 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah, bah blah blah blah, and 397 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: they can legally do this because they. 398 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: Say we're keeping you in for right, We're keeping this 399 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: is the proof of performance. 400 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. In twenty twenty four, according to The Indie Star, 401 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: Indiana's House delegation spent more than six hundred thousand dollars 402 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: on this mail to Hoosiers. Now these also, they're not 403 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: just mail. 404 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: It's billboards, text messages, email. 405 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all sorts of I mean, there was a 406 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Greg Pence one. If I correct me, I'm wrong, there 407 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: was a Greg Pence one. By the way, they ever 408 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: pay all that money back for Keel brothers? Did they ever? 409 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: Did they regge madehole? Not sure it Still there's still 410 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: floating balances out there. There was a Frank Frank Greg 411 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: Pence billboard on sixty five because we would see it 412 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: when I'd going to my wife's grandmother's house, and it 413 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: had the check on it, like the vote like it 414 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: looked like a vote. It did not anyways say vote for, 415 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: but it had an actual it looked like compared to 416 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: like a check mark on it. And you look at 417 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: this going, how can this possibly be legal? There is 418 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: no societal benefit to see a giant billboard with Greg 419 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: Pence's name on it. And some sort of signature accomplishments 420 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: that's in no way helping you as a tax payer's 421 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: no way and keeping you informed as a citizen. And 422 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: yet this is allowed by law. Lead this is why 423 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: the reelection rate is so high for the incumbents, because 424 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: they can do crap like this. 425 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: Well right, critics say that it does give the incumbents 426 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: an advantage because well, obviously it enables them to contact 427 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: the voters, even though it's funded by the taxpayers, so 428 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: you pay for them to reach out to you. 429 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: So what's interesting here is, let's see what they say. 430 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: Sparts is the big winner. Boy. She likes to spend 431 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: a lot of money, doesn't she. 432 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: She was the top spender of franked mail in twenty 433 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 3: three and twenty four with almost one hundred and ninety 434 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 3: six thousand dollars. 435 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: Baird Jim Byre We're gonna be talking about him a 436 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: lot here coming up over the next couple of days, 437 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: spent nearly one hundred and seventy four thousand dollars. Now 438 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: the Big Thing Star also has a piece out about 439 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: how he's basically using his office now allegedly using his 440 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: office to help his boy, you know, his loser kid, 441 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: the guy who hid the the ow I who we 442 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: broke that story, by the way, in an amazing the 443 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: amount of stories we break and or write. And then 444 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: sometimes we'll pick one and people go, nah, nah, I 445 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: like that guy, Na what about all the other ones? 446 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: I got right? Nah? But that's for another day anyway. 447 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: One hundred and seven. So the big thing now on Bair, 448 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: because his kid is allegedly going to run for Congress 449 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: for this seat, is that he's trying to help him 450 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: with these ads whatever. 451 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: And one and seventy four thousand. 452 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: And then Frank Mrvan I'm there in the first who 453 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: he's about to get redistricted and they're about to try 454 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: to take that seat away from him. But he spent 455 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: one hundred and four thousand dollars. And let's see, those 456 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: are the big those are the six figure people according 457 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: to the Indiana. 458 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 3: Those polls that I get occasionally like what can we 459 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: do better for you? 460 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: What's your top concern? 461 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, See, I don't know exactly what Frank 462 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: mailis see it. And I don't know technically if the 463 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: billboard like that Greg Pence billboard, I don't know if 464 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: that counts. But I recall reading the disclaimer. Unless my 465 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: memory has just evaded me, it was not a campaign 466 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: funded billboard. It was because you got to get right 467 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: under the billboard. But it's the print is big enough 468 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: that if you're not operating a vehicle or having machinery, 469 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: you can look up and see it. And I seem 470 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: to recall that being paid for by the taxpayers. If 471 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: greg would like to discuss that, or kill Brothers Oil 472 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Company or anything else. By the way, the big rumor 473 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: is he can't stand not being in the spotlight and 474 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: being a part of the grip. And he's concerning running 475 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: for state senate. Oh really, that's how badly he needs 476 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: to be on the public dole. But he is, he is. 477 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe Mike Pence could not be the 478 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: biggest loser in the Pence family. But I brother Greggy. 479 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: He takes the cake anyway. So that's an update on 480 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: how this is why the reelection rate is so high. 481 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: These people can use your money. Think about how long 482 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: it would take if you're somebody challenging Victoria's sparks to 483 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: even raise one hundred and ninety six thousand dollars. 484 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: Right exactly and then put it out in the hot 485 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 3: zips right to get in touch, and they already have 486 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: all of that information. 487 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 2: Sure, it's any addresses everybody. 488 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: The system is completely completely rigged. And Victoria's sports to 489 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: be ashamed of herself because it's twenty twenty five. People 490 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: have the Internet. How about an email. 491 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: Any email list costs money as well. Yeah, you have 492 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: to get that information. 493 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, I she doesn't need the list. She's a congress person. 494 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: She knows who her constituents are. She's got access to 495 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And I bet whatever the list is, 496 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: it would be way less expensive than printing those nice, 497 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: slicked up postcards and sending them in the mail like 498 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: they do. 499 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: The communications have to be approved by the House Communications 500 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 3: Standards Commission, which is a bipartisan group overseeing the content 501 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 3: and the timing. 502 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: Apparently, the Indiana. 503 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: Republicans spent most of their franked materials supporting Donald Trump 504 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: and his agenda. 505 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what they do. That's what when 506 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: you get those letters and stuff in the mail, it 507 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: always talks about the Trump agenda, the Trump administration, my support. 508 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: I don't want you to judge your success based on 509 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: if you support the president. I want you to challenge 510 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: the president. I want you to push back on the 511 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: president regardless of what party he is. Are there areas 512 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: where you're going to agree, of course, are the areas 513 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: you're going to vote the same, of course, But it's 514 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: kind of disturbing that we're not judging the success these 515 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: people are judging their success based on how many times 516 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: did I get on bended knee and attach my lips 517 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump's butt cheeks? 518 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: This line is funny. 519 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: Experts noted frank mail is still important for informing constituents 520 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 3: about congressional actions of what right of what? This is 521 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 3: what I did? Just love me, this is what I did? 522 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like yeah, see like I mean this. 523 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: And then this is that when Biden was president was 524 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: how much did they criticize Biden? 525 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 3: Right? 526 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: And then this article goes in into that about Rudy 527 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: Yakham sending out the mailer about how he voted to 528 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: impeach Alejandro mayorcus, why do I why do you need 529 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: to send me taxpayer money to know that? 530 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 3: Like? 531 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: What how did they paid for that so he could 532 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: tell you that, yes. 533 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: How did that alter my life in any shape, form 534 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: or fashion? You did the thing? People can agree with 535 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: it disagree with it. It doesn't affect the price of 536 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: food or gas, or my rent or or the mortgage 537 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: or whatever. The I mean. I had somebody tell me 538 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: this the other day, and I think this conversation I 539 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: can share about. We were talking about who these politicians 540 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: are like collectively, and this is a person who's been 541 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: around for a long time, and I said, because we 542 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: were talking about he was laughing about how mad I 543 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: get when I catch these politicians lying, and and I said, 544 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: I said, do you ever catch these guys lying? And 545 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 1: he said, oh, yeah, all time. And I said, well, 546 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: how do you not get the way I get then? 547 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: And he said, because they lie all the time. 548 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: He's immune to it. He's used to it. 549 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: In every interview I do with the high profile politician, 550 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: I accept they're going to lie to me multiple times. 551 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: And he said when I started, I was like you 552 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: and I used to get really upset about it. But 553 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: he said, I recognized a couple of years into my 554 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: job as a reporter that I was driving myself insane. 555 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: And if I just accept that they all do it, 556 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: it makes me cover them better because I can expose it. 557 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: And the sooner you accept that these people are all rotten, 558 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: whether it's lying or spending one hundred ninety six thousand 559 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: dollars on glorified campaign mail, or whatever it is, the 560 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: better you can deal with. Then it comes back to 561 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: the thing we talked about last week. I so struggle 562 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: with the idealism of how it ought to be versus 563 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: reality versus the reality of how it actually is. And 564 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: I so I thought about that a lot this weekend. 565 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: A lot of things this weekend, but I thought about 566 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: that quite a bit, of how do I get better 567 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: at that? And Casey, I don't know if I can 568 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: get better at it. I don't know if I can't 569 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: ever have the ability just used to it, just except 570 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: that people are these politicians, these people who have the 571 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: public trust, are lying to me, and I don't I 572 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: don't know. Is there some school I can go to, 573 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: some some summer camp, some you know, I don't know, 574 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: hypnotic center, I don't know. I don't know. 575 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: Have you tried therapy? I don't know. I'm just throwing 576 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: that out there. 577 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: I know you're a big fan of the RBS, But 578 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: guess what what we have to talk about? 579 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: Wendy's Oh oh yeah, what is there something bad going on? 580 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: Winds. 581 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: They're not doing so well. 582 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, all right. 583 00:29:47,800 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: It's Kendelly Casey, it's ninety three wybcum tell me is struggling. Yeah, 584 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: they cut their global sales forecast. They cited economic uncertainty, 585 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: heightened competition, and especially their lower income income consumers. 586 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is like the world we live in 587 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: is fascinating, isn't weird? As Like you get older, the 588 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: things you remember, like just why do I remember this? 589 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: Why don't I remember other things? Whatever? I remember? Most 590 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: people know my radio mentor the guy that I think 591 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: had the biggest impact on me is legendary j Baker, 592 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: who is best known from his years with Bob and 593 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: Tom and Q ninety five and Jay still in Unit five. 594 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: And Jay was very young in this business, saw something 595 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: in me and took me under his wing. And I 596 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: used to sit for hours on the weekend with him, 597 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: and he was gracious and he would and we would 598 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: talk about radio, and he would teach me things about 599 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: the business, and we would talk about all sorts of 600 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: things with life. And one of the things my job 601 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: to do with Jay on the weekends was to go 602 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: get the lunch. That was my job. And we used 603 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: to wed the rates stations in Brownsburg, so it's right 604 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: near the interstate. And we used to like laugh about 605 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: like how fast food restaurants near an interstate, a crowded 606 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: interstate like the one in Brownsburg should basically be a 607 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: money printing factory. Like if you're a named chain off 608 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: a crowded interstate, and this is you know, early two thousands, right, 609 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: so totally different world. But how could you fail if 610 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: you're Wendy's or Rby's or McDonald's or Burger King like, 611 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: and you're off a crowded interestate of any sort, How 612 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: could you possibly fail? And yet in the modern climate 613 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: in which we live that, you know, we were saying, like, 614 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if you could just own the 615 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: Wendy's off the interstate in Brownsburg that Wendy's is. I 616 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: think I had all sorts of problems over the past 617 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: several years, but now it's like the economy is so bizarro, 618 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: and whether it's getting workers or people to show up, 619 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: or what you could pay them, or how people's buying 620 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: habits have changed. Right, we now live in a world 621 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: where even a megafranchise. 622 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 3: Like where Wendys were struggling well, I think, and you 623 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: hit on it right there. They say that their sales 624 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: improved a little in May and June and that was 625 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: because they had new Frosty something or another, but overall 626 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: demand hasn't recovered and it's been much slower than what 627 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 3: they expected. They said that their breakfast sales have lagged 628 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: behind other day parts because consumers are choosing to skip 629 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: or eat breakfast at home because of financial pressure. 630 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it used to be that in 631 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: a pre inflation, pre COVID world where we still put see, 632 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: part of the problem with COVID was they devalued work. 633 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: They told you stay home. You can stay home, it 634 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Yeah, your work doesn't matter, right, And people 635 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: it got ingrained in a system, especially amongst younger people 636 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: who saw this and thought, well, staying home as a 637 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: way of life that they don't feel the onus quality 638 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: young people to go out and get jobs younger right, 639 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 1: like high school kids or whatever who run a lot 640 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: of these fast food restaurants, etceter help run them, et cetera. 641 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: And so now you have to pay so much to 642 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: get quality people in certainly an adult of any sort, 643 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: that your price point can't match what it pays to 644 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: get people in there, and so as a result, you're 645 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: stuck in this bizarrero world where you can't make the 646 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: you struggle to make it work. We're now off a 647 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: crowded interstate. Fast food restaurants somehow are managing to struggle. 648 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: McDonald's has seen a rebound. They expanded their value menu 649 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 3: and that has brought some of their lower income customers back. 650 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 3: Wendy's also offers a value option, but they're saying maybe 651 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: they're not marketing it correctly. 652 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: Which costs money. You know, they got to get the 653 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: word out that they've got it. 654 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: You know. The history of Wendy's is fascinating too. It 655 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: was weird my wife and I were just talking about 656 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: because she went to Wendy's the other day and we 657 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: were talking about that. She was ignoring me. I was talking, 658 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: but I was telling her about the history. History of 659 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: Wendy's is fascinating because obviously Dave Thomas is the face 660 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: the founder of Wendy's, but the growth of Wendy's came 661 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: in a post Dave Thomas era. He owned Wendy's. He 662 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: was the founder of Wendy's. That's his daughter that's on 663 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: the billboards. But the explosive growth of Wendy's came in 664 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: a post Dave Thomas is the guy who owns and 665 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: runs the show era and Wendy's was in a lot 666 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: of trouble in the nineteen would have been the early 667 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: eighties in the pre where's the beef commercial? And they 668 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: came up with this brilliant commercial and it sparked these 669 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: massive sales and they became a you know, this juggernaut 670 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: off of that added it's so weird, how Yeah, Whitmer's 671 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: Rights indie reporter, Wendy's value selection stinks. He's right, that's 672 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: part of the problem. Yeah, Wendy's used to have that 673 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: doubles five dollars biggie bag. Yeah, but it's it's not 674 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not as good as some of the 675 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: other places. Right, it's you know, it's got the I 676 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: think of what it's got, chicken nuggets, the double stack, 677 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: the fry, and the drink. 678 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,959 Speaker 2: Yeah it's the bacon, cheeseburger, fries, nuggets and drinks. 679 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. These have the double stack on the 680 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: value Any point on all of this is Windy's has 681 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: had a somewhat tumultuous you know history in terms of 682 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: highs and lows, peaks and valleys, and it seems like 683 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: they are really struggling right now. 684 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 3: Well it's when they used the marketing where's the Beef, 685 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: That's when it turned around for them, right yeah. And 686 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 3: clearly their message right now is it's not good. 687 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: And I think you're in a world now where it 688 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: used to be one great ad campaign can could save you. 689 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: You can come up with something that even if the 690 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: product is struggling, if your ad campaign is good enough, 691 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: you can make it work. And I think we're so 692 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: fractured as a society and how in terms of how 693 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: people consume inform, where they consume information that we don't. 694 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: It's like movies, right there was always moved the blockbuster 695 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: event in the summer, and there were you know McDonald's 696 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: had something whether whether it's Batman or Ghostbusters or whatever. 697 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 1: That's all. It's all gone now that doesn't exist any. 698 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 3: And you're talking about the where's the Beef commercial television commercial, 699 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 3: right yeah, that's not going to work today. 700 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: They'd be better off if they could have something go 701 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: viral for them. 702 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just think the economy and these are 703 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: with this thing with Wendy's is a great example. I 704 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: think the economy is so upside down, and I think 705 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: it's a great example of politicians will lie and they'll spin, 706 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: but when Wendy's is struggling, that'll tell you what's going 707 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: on out there. 708 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 2: That's going to do it for us today. Thank you Rob, 709 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening. 710 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: It's being Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC. 711 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: Have a light 712 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: Snack you can