1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: All right, we're back another edition Colt's Corner with myself, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen and Eddie Garrison. Roster is trimmed down to 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: fifty three. We'll see how much tinkering already a little tinkering. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: We'll see how much more tinkering the rest of the week, 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: and of course we'll have you set coming up next week. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: We'll throw out a little preview pod Colts and Dolphins 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Week one, some fantasy football info Eddie. At the end 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: of this pod, maybe a trivia question related to week one. 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: How are you doing, sir? Doing well? Yes, we will. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: We will offer up a trivia question and we'll explain 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: what the question is and how you can claim a 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: spot in the fantasy football draft. I believe we're gonna 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: draft what a week from today? 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: I think so Wednesday night. Yeah, we're gonna shoot for 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: nine Easter and I hope that's not too late for 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: anybody out there. I mean, how the sun is still 17 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: kind of up at that hour, so if you're on 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: the East in time zone, you should be good. And 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, we have listeners that sometimes aren't in our 20 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: time zone, which we greatly appreciate, so hopefully it'll help 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: you out from that end of it, a Eddie will 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: break down a little bit of roster, you know, cutdowns. 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to go position by position, 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: but I think also the Chris Ballad presser will certainly 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: be what people want to hear about, but that'll be 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the general focus. Don't know fall time for all the 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: Twitter questions today. We might save a couple for next week. 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: But that's will lay of the land here on this 29 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon pod, about an hour after Chris Ballard just 30 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: wrapped up his press conference. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: Let's start with the most recent thing, Kevin. Let's start 32 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: with that Chris Ballard press conference. I don't think you 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: guys asked enough Anthony richardson questions, and I think you 34 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: should have definitely asked him about the white outs, because 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: I know he probably would have enjoyed that he. 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Did bring up the white outs, just in an organic 37 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: state saying hey, I did ask him that, you know, 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: is there a position of strength and he did mention 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: white outs there. You know, Eddie, I'm not gonna lie. 40 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I generally really look forward to the Ballad press conferences. 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: You know, anytime the GM talks, I think it's it's 42 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: important and I think compared to most gms around the league, 43 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: I say, Chris is usually relatively candid, but today there 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: was an element of walking in there thinking, are we 45 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: just going through the motions? Like I didn't expect anything 46 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: or shattering to your point. I had a general idea 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: that quarterback would be the focus, and I knew at 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: some point his continued backing of Anthony Richardson with words 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: would lead to frustration from him. It was about thirteen 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: maybe fourteen minutes into the press conference before you mentioned 51 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, we have fifty one other guys in the team, 52 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: and you know, he was kind of fed up at 53 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: that point. So he had a quote at one point 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: where he goes, you know, he keeps on asking about 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, watch people believe in you. Watch people believe 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: blah blah, they believe if you win. He probably could 57 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: have just said that right away, and like, that's the 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: general thing, And I get why people ask the question, 59 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, why should fans believe in you? But also 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: I think it's met with a very difficult answer. Sure 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: what you know, maybe could there have been an acknowledgement 62 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: of hey, you know, we messed up in our plan 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: with Anthony From day one, and we should not have 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: put the pressure on him early. I you know, we 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: should have found a proven starter to really learn behind 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: through his first year, should have brought him along slowly. 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe something like that becomes, you know, beneficial. 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: But like the thing of Anthony is like he's such 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: a rare prospect because even if that's your belief, you 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: still have a dude that's just barely played football. So 71 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: at some point, like he's got to learn on the 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: field too, And what does he be learning in the 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: sixth or not? Sixteen? Was it nineteen games? He's missed right, 74 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: seventeen due to injury and too due to benching. So yeah, 75 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: I you know, one of our colleagues said, Bore the 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: prest conference start is usually the press to where Bower 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: gets the most pissy. I'm like, well, yes, but like 78 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: when you have the resume that he has in year nine, 79 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: what what really can you say? And you know, honestly, 80 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: when he pivoted from the fifty one you know, fifty 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: one players, you know, why don't you ask about that? 82 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Something to that effect. It is interesting that you know, 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: back at the combine, Eddy, when we played that interview 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: back in February, and honestly, this might have been the 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: combine last year. I don't think it was this year. 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: It might have been the combine in twenty three or 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I guess twenty four. You know, why do you feel 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: like your ten year has not produced the results that 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: you would want? He largely points to quarterback, which here 90 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: we are, you know, eighteen months later, and we're kind 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: of back at the same song and dance. So again, 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: that was just my general overview. I didn't think, you know, 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: are we going through the motions at this point, like 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: unless the results turn around, and who knows, maybe those 95 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: results won't be enough, maybe ten wins won't be enough, 96 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: but until the tangible results on the field turn around, 97 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Like I was watching my Miami press conference right before 98 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: Ballads with Chris Greer. Their GM. Their GM as a 99 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: very similar resume to Ballard, and they're really the only 100 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: two in the NFL. I think you kind of put 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: in that category of you know, nine ten years at 102 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: it and don't have lots to show for it. And 103 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: it's the same song and dance down there too, So 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of an interesting subplot to week one. 105 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: So that was just my general thought. You know, as 106 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: far as Daniel Jones is concerned, you know again, professionalism 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and getting the team in the right position offensively, and 108 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: all of that was where he kept on coming back 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: from and what he has been impressed by with him. 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: He didn't really point to twenty twenty two as much 111 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: as Shane Steiken did. More pointed to what he has 112 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: seen in training camp. Boy, what a great day for 113 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. If you took a shot every time Alex 114 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: Smith's name was mentioned, you might wake up on you know, 115 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. And he honestly used the Alex Smith comp 116 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: for both Jones in the short term and Richardson in 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: the long term. So you know, I could Daniel Jones 118 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: to have an Alex Smith type of season. I don't know. Possibly, 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: I you know, if you look at Smith's career, I 120 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: think there's a little bit more on the resume that 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: has some meat on it than Jones. But I get it. 122 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: You know, Smith struggle with accuracy early on, and then 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: you know, have the shoulder issue and eventually got it 124 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: together in San Francisco, and then you know, of course 125 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: did it in Kansas City. He might have been a 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: little bit older even at that point. But I'd have 127 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: to go back and really analyze his career and again, 128 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: short term, yeah, I guess you could nod your head 129 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: at that. Could again Daniel Jones have a year like 130 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Alex Smith had? Yeah, But I would say long term, 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: what did Kansas City do? They made one of the 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: more aggressive trade ups that you'll see twenty seven to ten. 133 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a giant trade up to draft Mahomes 134 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: when you were a playoff team and they forget if 135 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: they won a game or not. But yeah, that to 136 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: me is probably where that can Harrison stops Richardson and 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: Joe and Smith. That one's hard for me. I mean, Eddie, 138 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: you probably weren't even alive when Alex Smith played college football, 139 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: but like that, dude had one of the more impressive 140 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: single seasons we've probably seen, especially in that day. And 141 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: that was twenty years ago where we weren't yet with 142 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: the video game numbers, with a lot of these quarterbacks 143 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: that they now put up in that today in college football. 144 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: But I mean his I'm just thinking back to that 145 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: Youthah season. The efficiency was just through the roof. Hell, 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: he was a Heisman finalist. I remember him just torching 147 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in the Fiesta Bowl obviously turned to the number 148 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: one pick. Like Richardson, I mean, he didn't sniff that 149 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: in college. And this gets back to like the Baker 150 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: Mayfield Sam Darnold comp It's like Anthony Richardson, and I 151 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: say this in quotes, he's never strung together good football, 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: like legit good college or pro Like is there a 153 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: four game here? Sure? But like is where is the 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: full season? Again? 155 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: Alex Smith was the Heisman, was a Heisman finalist. There's 156 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: not even been like back to back games. Yeah, I 157 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: mean you could, yeah, yeah, I mean if you want to. 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, I probably have to go over the 159 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: Florida resume again. Ironically, I had a great game. It's 160 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: Utah to start. I remember we talked about that game, 161 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: and you know, Kevin he was, Oh, this guy's bursting 162 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 2: on the scene because he's had all these big plays 163 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: and then uh he has to go back it up 164 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: the following week and he and he. 165 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Didn't, right right right right? Yeah, And he was the 166 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: Heisman Darling for for a week or so. So yeah, 167 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: I just and you know, one point, Ballard was like, well, 168 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, there's only something the effective Like you know, 169 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Smith was a guy that you know struggled early and 170 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: turned out to be something, and there's one of them 171 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: out there, and it's like, okay, I mean, this is 172 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: just this kind of gets back to the parlay that 173 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: you're at with with Richardson and trying to hit so 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: many things of injury and accuracy improvement and turnover improvement 175 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: Monday through Saturday. And I guess that's one thing. It 176 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: seemed like Ballad really wasn't going to touch anything off 177 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: the field. See Michael Richardson, he feels like he is 178 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: in a really good place there, you know, Monday through 179 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: Saturday and all of that. So I guess that is 180 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: good news. But again, so much of it to me 181 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: comes back to whenever he does get back out on 182 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: the field. Just look at Chris Boward's biggest question mark 183 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: with him at the end of last season. Availability. He's 184 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: got to prove that again. And are you just back 185 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: at the same song and dance with you know, only 186 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: fifteen games on his resume, So that's probably everything quarterback wise, 187 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: unless something stood out to you. I know, you guys 188 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: are doing the show, but unless something stood out to you, 189 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm good to move on. 190 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 2: Excuse me, that's why you don't eat peanuts right before 191 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: you start doing a podcast. Kevin noted nothing really stood 192 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: out in terms of what he said. 193 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're not going to trade Richardson, you know, 194 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, but and I agree with that. I 195 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: don't see the benefit of that right now. I what 196 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: are you getting? I don't know? Fourth rounder? Like I 197 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: would rather just say, you know what, let's see if 198 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can last seventeen James and if he doesn't, 199 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: then you play Richardson and you get more clarity on 200 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: that answer. He still is utter contract for next year, 201 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: so you still would have some team control on him 202 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: for next year. Again, you got to trade him by Halloween, 203 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: so you really got to see a team get super desperate, 204 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: super quick for them to be entertained by Richardson. And 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: I believe Ballad I would be surprised if they traded 206 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: him before Halloween. So obviously the trade deadline then is there, 207 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: and you know, you get to the off season and 208 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: see what happens. I don't think his trade value will 209 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: entirely change too much on August twenty seventh or February 210 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: twenty seventh, So I. 211 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: Thought there was a lot of the smug and the 212 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: self confidence in the pravado that was on display. 213 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I saw people. Boy, he seems so defensive. 214 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, isn't that kind of how he's 215 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: been lately in press conferences? I mean, isn't that kind 216 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: of largely how he is in press conferences? Yeah? 217 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: And I understand too, like the comment he made. But 218 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: I think it was James who asked him like, hey, 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: there are any pressure and he goes like, nah, I 220 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: don't feel any pressure. Like at some point you would 221 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: feel like there would be some sort of like crack 222 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: of like yeah, I've you know, I've really got to 223 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: win now, like this is my time. When if not, 224 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: then you know that's in the future card. You know, 225 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: remember the card he played a month ago. The card 226 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: at the end of training camp asked a similar question, 227 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: or I should say, at the start of training camp, 228 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: was you know, no pressure is people going paycheck to paycheck? 229 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: You know he went that route, so he just chose 230 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: a different route to go. I I yeah, I guess 231 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: when you've been a part of so many ballot press conferences, 232 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: maybe you're kind of numb to it. 233 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: I understand where you're coming from. There, but I'm just 234 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: I know there's fans out there to be like certain dude. 235 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: Certainly, I think there's only so many words he could 236 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: have said, and I don't know, maybe he should have 237 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: been less offensive, maybe he should have acknowledged a little 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: bit more of like. But I just kind of shrug 239 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: my shoulders and hands up in the air and say, 240 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: either he tangibly has results on the field that makes 241 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: people change their minds, or you know, it's that might 242 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: be today might have been the final time we see 243 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: Chris Bout on a press conference setting. I mean, if 244 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't go well this season, you know, that's it. Really. 245 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: It's not like he talks. Unless I'm missing something, it's 246 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: not like he talks. He talks again. So yeah, I 247 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at with with. 248 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: Quarterback wise, Let's talk about the other fifty one players 249 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 2: on the roster of oll not each one of them Kevin, 250 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: but the Colts fifty three man roster. The initial roster, 251 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: nonetheless is officially out and it's already outdated. They made 252 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: one change today starting with the quarterbacks. Kevin, they had four, 253 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: they cut it down to three, Jason being gone meeting, 254 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: it's Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Riley Leonard, no shock there. 255 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: Moving to running backs, they had seven and they cut 256 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: down to three. One of those running backs that they 257 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: did keep is currently injured. We don't really know the 258 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: status of that's being Tyler Goodson. The other two backs 259 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: with Goodson in that room obviously Jonathan Taylor and DJ Giddens. 260 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: Anything to add. 261 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: Here on this front, they do let go of Khalil Herbert. Yeah, 262 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: and you let's subpently the fourth be curious if he 263 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: goes the practice squad and then could he get the 264 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: Week one call up or could Herbert, you know, linger 265 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: around practice squad get the call up? You know? And 266 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying that if Goodson, Tyler Goodson at that elbow injury, 267 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: if he's not ready, I still would explore a pass 268 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: catching running back. That to me, I think is a 269 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: question mark. Every time watch Jonathan Taylor, I just get nervy, man, 270 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: right in the football Did you go nervy? I went nervy? Yeah? 271 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: Is that right? Is that not right? A little nervy? 272 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: Are you trying to be like the hip with the 273 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: kids or something? I feel like all the kids say 274 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: is bet these days. Oh that's outdated? Do you know 275 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: what Aura Farming is or slaps? Its? 276 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: Slaps? Slaps is outdated? Okay, but Bett is also outdated. Yeah, 277 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: I feel like I hear the athletes say it too. 278 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: I feel like I hear the NFL and the NBA 279 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: players say it. Well, maybe they may say it, but 280 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's a little outdated. I mean, I 281 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: got a brother and sister in college, Kevin, I'm very 282 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: up to date, like Aora Farming. 283 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? Tell that to you know, 284 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: James Johnson or Grover two or something like that. So 285 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: running back surprised me a little bit, but I guess 286 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: there's just some uncertainty there back end wise, you know, 287 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: white out and tight end. I thought it was super straight. 288 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: For do you see Jolani Woods to the Jets? 289 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 2: I did see Jolani Woods the to the Jets, Crystal 290 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: Mons to the Titans? 291 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: Uh uh no? W Mac Mac? Sorry y yeah, Ron Corny, 292 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: Samuel Womack for the Titans, and yeah, who's the oh 293 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: Juju Brents to the to the Dolphins. So I guess 294 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: I'll start with Woods. I just never thought he was 295 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: a real, real strong candidate to push Will Mallory off 296 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: the roster. That's me seemed pretty obvious, you know, the 297 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: on the Juju Brents front. I guess we're jumping around 298 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: a little bit here. But while we talk about the waivers, 299 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, Baller kind of summarized it as bad luck. 300 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: I you know, I I do feel bad for Juju 301 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: in the sense of, like I thought when he played, 302 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: albeit a very small sample size, what eleven games. I 303 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: did think you saw a little bit there, yep, about 304 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: eleven of thirty four games. I mean, he was less 305 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: available than Richardson and then he was hurt this all season. 306 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: I thought that was just kind of That's what made 307 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: me pause a little bit of like they kept Jonathan 308 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: Edwards over Juju. You know, part of me thought, hey, 309 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: can you sneak Edwards to practice squad, the undrafted kid 310 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: out of Tulane. Keep Juju? See what he does for 311 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: a month or two as he gets back to health. 312 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's only year three of that rookie contract. 313 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: But they obviously decided to do something different with him. Ironically, 314 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: it goes to Miami, which you're gonna see here in 315 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Week one. I don't think I've ever seen a position 316 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: in the ballad era be addressed more than cornerback has 317 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: been addressed this offseason, right, And I get some of 318 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: these guys are aging, and I get some of these 319 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: guys are no longer maybe that type of player, But 320 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: think about it all pro Saveria's Ward added all pron 321 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: Xavier and Howard added a third round pick spent on 322 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Justin Wally. A former third round pick added in Makai Blackman. 323 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: You traded a sixth rounder for him, and we'll see 324 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: how the rest of the week plays out with them. 325 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: Like that's a ton And they brought back all their 326 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: big snap guys from last year anymore, crys La Mons, 327 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: Samuel Wallmack Jude Jalen Jones. So you know right there, 328 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I I I feel like you've got to look at 329 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: Ballard and say, thank you. Here is a position of 330 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: struggle last season, and you gave it heavy attention in 331 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: the off season. 332 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 333 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Now, did lou Anne Room will have a you know, 334 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: influence on that quite possibly? Obviously there are some ties 335 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: directly to lou within that within that room, but still 336 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: that is taking a Hey, we were weak in this 337 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: area last year. Let's try and strengthen it. And so 338 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I do think Ballard deserves some credit there, and we'll 339 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: see how it plays out. You know, will there be 340 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: growing pains early on in the year, You know, possibly, 341 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: Obviously it's an aging group. When you look at it, 342 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, very old. Honestly, when you look at some 343 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: of those names, you know, where's Blackman after a year 344 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: off in the acl Where's Howard after a year off? 345 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: You know, those are some questions that you have. But 346 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Man cornerback, they just totally totally re retooled. 347 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: Seemed pretty confident in his Zami and Howard though today 348 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: mentioned that he feels like the year off really helped 349 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 2: him from a physical standpoint. 350 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: Right and again, I yeah, I you know, they watched 351 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: him in three practices, so you know what happens when 352 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and Jayleen Latta all running at you for 353 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: forty fifty snaps a week from Sunday. 354 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: All right, now, let's get into Chris Pallace's favorite positions 355 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: to look at in the depth. Start starting with the 356 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: offensive line had fourteen, they cut off five, so they 357 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: have nine on the active roster. 358 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: At this moment. 359 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: Channer Borderlini Macnzalvez, Quentin Neilson, Danny Pinter, Bernard Ryman, Brayden Smith, 360 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: Luke Tanuda, Jalen Travis, Dalton Tucker. Meaning these were the 361 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: five that did not make the cut. Marshall Forner, Wesley French, 362 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: Marcellus Johnson, Josh Sills, and I don't even know how 363 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: to say this last one, Mose Vaval. 364 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Mos Vaval. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Moses. I think 365 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: you are right, but I'm not going to try to 366 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: act like I'm right, and I'll just say nothing and 367 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: say it was cut. So I yeah, this is the 368 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: nine that I had. I thought maybe offensive tackle, they 369 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: might try to play the wayver game game. But they 370 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: like Luke Tanuda bit here. He benefits from the Blake 371 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: Freeland thing, you know, d line. I was a number short. 372 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: I stretched it to ten. I saw they just cut 373 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Tim Smith, the draft pick out Alabama to make room 374 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: for Chad Moomba, So they kept Thereic Johnson bringing back 375 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: the old fifth round pick, kept him over Tim Smith. 376 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: So now they're back to ten defensive linemen. You know, 377 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: if you're going to keep such a big number, I 378 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: usually like one of those ten to be the flashy 379 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: defensive end prospect. Isaiah Lamb Right, you know that type 380 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: of guy, and I get it, you've seen him for 381 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: two years. Maybe he's done. They didn't go that route, 382 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: so they obviously are keeping a ton of beef up front. 383 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: If you go to linebacker Eddie, I think one of 384 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: the best things about roster cuts. If you look at it, 385 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty one of twenty two starters that you would have 386 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: had their July twenty seventh, you will have an all 387 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: likelihood for week one, assuming Josh Down's is good, assuming 388 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: that cross is good. You know those sorts of things. 389 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: Not a lot of teams can say that. You know, 390 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: last year, I Samson Ebcom obviously towards Achilles, but you know, 391 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: outside of Justin Wally, I mean, you are pretty darn healthy. 392 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Carlies. I bring that up because linebacker, Yes, 393 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss at least a month. He's your only 394 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: ir to return candidate exiting camp, and he was already 395 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: losing that starting job in my mind before he got hurt. 396 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: I think Joe Botchi had kind of taken that from him. 397 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: So I'll be curious what they do next to Franklin 398 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: saw a report of Anthony Walker speaking of guys coming 399 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: back to the Colts visiting and working out for the 400 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: team on Thursday. You know, Lou mentioned I like to 401 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: rotate there, so we'll see how they handle that. That's 402 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: still a position that I've got some I've got some 403 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: concern on, not to say the least. 404 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Beller did say during the press conference today, because he 405 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: was asked directly about Mike Kilton. He did say that 406 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 2: they'll start bringing in some veteran type players to you know, 407 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: kick the tires on to that in a pinch that 408 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: you know, say somebody goes down, they can bring him 409 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: in and have some familiarity with them already, get a 410 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: look at him and know how what shape they're in 411 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 2: and what they're looking looking like, just for purposes of 412 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: making sure the audience knows who Wall's in that defensive 413 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: line position group. Addie Tommy will out of Orri to 414 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: forst Buckner, Samson, abacom Nevill Gallimore, Eric Johnson. The second 415 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 2: leots to a lot to Taekwon, Lewis Quitt pay, Tim 416 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: Smith who was released today, Griver Stewart and JT. Twey Mololau. 417 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: And linebackers they had nine they go with four Joe Bacchi, 418 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: Zion Franklin, Cam mcgron and chagoon A Louviing now to 419 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: the cornerback room. They had six initially Kevin McKay, Blackman, 420 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 2: Jonathan Edwards, Zavy and Howard Jalen Jones, Kenny Moore the second, 421 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 2: Travarius Ward Safeties. They go with four can Binde him, 422 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 2: Nick Cross, Daniel Scott and Rodney Thomas the second the specialists. 423 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: No shocker there, Luke Rowse, you're a long snapper. Ricoberto 424 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: Sanchez your punter, and Spencer Strader is your kicker. 425 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Congrats. Spencer Trader officially wins that Mattix Triuvia must have 426 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: got hurt. It's always waved injured. One last thing I'll add, 427 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: because I know it was a big topic from yesterday 428 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Eddie was you know, seeing Juju get cut, and you 429 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: know where Anthony Richson's career arcs going, you know, Blake 430 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: Freeland unfortunately season Indie injury. The first two years you 431 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: didn't get a whole lot out of them. Obviously, the 432 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: start of that twenty twenty three draft has some pretty 433 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: woof Yeah. That's yeah, that's a that's a much more 434 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: succinct and effective way to put it than I was going. 435 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: To go because that's Richardson downs Freeland right down at Jones, Right, Brents. 436 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: Is the second round Brents that you have there? Yeah? 437 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: Twenty three? Yeah, yeah, he got some day three years that. 438 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: You know. Jalen Jones obviously has been really nice, fine, 439 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: but largely I think what is frustrating about that miss 440 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: draft is it came at such a critical juncture for 441 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: the franchise needing to restart things. You know, when you 442 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: when you think about the restart moments that the Colts 443 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: have had, think about twenty eleven to twelve eleven, you suffer, 444 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: you win two games, here comes a twelve draft. You're 445 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: drafting first in every round, right or first or second. 446 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: You know, I forget if Washington and then flip flop, 447 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: but think about that draft. Luck Fleeiner, Dwayne Allen, t 448 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: Y Hilton, Vic Ballard, I mean just massively core players 449 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: to eleven wins that first year, then eleven the next, 450 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: then eleven the following year. Like you know, that helped 451 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: you get back on track asap. Think about the next 452 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: three start time twenty seventeen. Four wins to twenty eighteen 453 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: went Nelson, Braydon Smith, Darius Leonard. You know you found 454 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: some early success Nahim Heinz in that draft class that 455 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: helped you do what make the playoffs in twenty eighteen, 456 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: win a playoff game in twenty eighteen, get back to 457 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs in twenty twenty. Now that group maybe didn't 458 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: have as much stain power, but it was really important. Well, 459 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: let's look at twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three. 460 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: What happens in twenty twenty two. You go four twelve 461 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: and one, you have one of the most embarrassing seasons 462 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: in franchise history. The whole Matt Ryan, the whole Jeff 463 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: Saturday saga, all that plays out. And now look at 464 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three draft. You described it as wolf 465 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: like that can't happen, And I think, if I'm carl 466 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: Ersa Gordon, I think back to Okay. So, my dad 467 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: and Chris Ballard back in whatever twenty twenty three decided 468 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: to have a reset, and they said it was going 469 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: to take a couple of years. So in order for 470 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: that reset to have some solid foundation, some nice limestone 471 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: if you will, from Indiana on it, then you need 472 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: to hit on those picks. Because you're drafting high. You're 473 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: not drafting middle of the rounds into the rounds like 474 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: you are maybe in some other years. No, no, no, you're 475 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: drafting really high in all those rounds. That has to 476 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: be taking advantage of. And when you four go free agency, 477 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: for as much as Ballard has, your draft hit rate 478 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: can't be fifty to fifty. Twenty twenty two had some 479 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: really nice hits, twenty twenty one a little bit of 480 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: a dip. Twenty twenty had some hits, But having fifty 481 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: to fifty only gets you so far when you operate 482 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: in the free agency manner that you do. 483 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: So that is something as well. You ready for Twitter questions, kab, Yes, 484 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: let's do it. We got a handful to get to. 485 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: And for those of you that listened to Quarying Company 486 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: on the fan from twelve to three Easter Monday through Friday. 487 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: By the way, you're very familiar with the person that 488 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: is my only friend, and he leads us off today 489 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 2: in Twitter questions. His name is Alec only friend. 490 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: Alec. 491 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: Here we go, Yeah, that is literally how he gets 492 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: referenced on the show. Is Eddie's only friend? 493 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: Alec. 494 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: Alex says he did some research on Chris Ballard in 495 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: Day two picks that I've struggled to stay healthy and 496 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: how much they missed in college in terms of games. 497 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: Former colts, we all know Shack Leonard the story there. 498 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: Paris Campbell, he missed three games in college. Jolanny Woods 499 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: did not miss any games. Juju Brents played in seven games. 500 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: It's a true freshman. Played in one game as a 501 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: sophomore before going down. Missed a game in at twenty 502 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: twenty and did not miss a game his last two years. 503 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: Julian Blackman missed two games at Utah. Current Colts Jonathan 504 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: Taylor missed one game. A Branden Smith did not miss 505 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: any games. Justin Wally missed two games. Is this just 506 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: bad luck? Or is this an indictment on the strength 507 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: and conditioning staff as well as the medical staff for 508 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts well alec. 509 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, he's asking questions that Kevin Bowen struggles to answer 510 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: injury questions. I just I just battle with and like, 511 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: trust me, I have a to your point, Justin Wallly, 512 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: unbelievable health in college and then boom, all of a sudden, 513 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, terroris acl I think there are some examples 514 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: of it, some that don't apply to it. Necessarily, and 515 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: that's why I think makes it so frustrating. I do 516 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: largely agree on this. I think at times it's just 517 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: too overly reliant on the raz yep relative athletics score 518 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: just too much on the athlete, athlete, athlete, and there's 519 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: just a level of what about football player, what about 520 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: football body that is able to handle some of the 521 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, not necessarily these track athletes, if you will. 522 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: That I think is where I would probably side on. 523 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: It's a totally fair question. It's a good question, but 524 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: I think it's difficult to answer. 525 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: Next up is JJ Shane Steichen came to Indianapolis with 526 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: the reputation of being a quote brilliant offensive nine end quote. 527 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: Is he still described similarly? Also after a few seasons 528 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: in Indy? Is he really head coach material? It seems 529 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: like he'd prefer designing offensive plays to leading a team. 530 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am, you know, I do think quarterback is 531 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: probably I guess the quote right there? What was it 532 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: he preferred designing offensive plays versus leading a team? Yeah, yeah, 533 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: I I I'm doing the Alonzo morning gift right now. 534 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's I can see that, or like the 535 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: security yard in one last dance. That one has a 536 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: little bit more emotion than than Big Z. Ryan Bones's 537 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: favorite player growing up by the real of morning. Oh yeah, 538 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: I loved himself some. So I used to rock a 539 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: hornet's jersey that Ryan passed down to me, very very 540 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: gracious for that. I had no chance I could fit 541 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: in that. Actually, I can feel like the threads of 542 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: the jersey just splitting right now imagining myself trying to 543 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: fit in that. Yeah, you know it is he really 544 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: head coach material. I mean last year, think about it, Eddie, 545 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: he felt the need to Hey, I am not enforcing 546 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: the standard enough. I'm not clearly it's not resonating enough 547 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: that general aspect. I mean, he is an offensive minded 548 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: head coach. And I think there's a fine balance you 549 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: have with these coaches. It's especially when you're in a 550 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: situation where the Koltar where they struggled with quarterbacks so much. 551 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: You wanted more of the offensive, you wanted more of 552 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: the quarterback guru. But where do you blend in leader 553 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: of men? And finding that is so difficult, so difficult, 554 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the harder things to 555 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: try and get. And if you are ever watching Shane 556 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: steich In at a Colts practice. I mean he's around 557 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: the offense, you know, ninety percent of the time, he's 558 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: not the quarterbacks. Really a ton It's like, okay, how 559 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: much are you? You know? I felt this in the 560 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley two years. To me, it was too accepting 561 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: of what was going on on that side of the 562 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: ball and not demanding enough. And if you are the 563 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, if you are the John Harball, if you 564 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: are the Dan Campbell, are you more observant of that? Now, again, 565 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: there are great cases for the other side of it, 566 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: John McVay, Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, like, there are both 567 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: sides of it. In the NFL. I just think the 568 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: operation is so hard that I'm probably more of the 569 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: again leader of men, kind of the manager of the 570 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: operation and the CEO. And I do think there are 571 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: some areas where Shane struggles that it's certainly messaging in 572 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: a public setting, you know, I think you know, and 573 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: again I've said this many times. You know, you can 574 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: talk like Belichick in front of the media, but A 575 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: you better win and be behind the scenes that message 576 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: better be resonating. Well A right now, they've been a 577 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: five hundred team Understiching, you know, not great, not horrific, 578 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: But the messaging has also been an issue. You know, 579 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: he he's admitted that, like I struggle at the standard 580 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: last year, and you know, specifically with Richardson, Remember how 581 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: awkward that little two week period was during his benching 582 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: where he really didn't say anything, and then two weeks 583 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: later he poured it all out there. He like finally 584 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: said it all yeah, and it was like, oh wow, 585 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: that created I think a relief almost and then later 586 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: in the season he was so vague on Richardson's back injury, 587 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: if you remember that, and then it took Anthony to 588 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'm like crawling to the door right now. 589 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think Stephen Holder had some of 590 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: this reporting. Richardson's team was really frustrat buy that mm hmm. 591 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: Of like, I think there's an obsession from Shane in 592 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: competitive advantage stuff and I understand it to a degree, 593 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: but and maybe he doesn't care about it. Frankly, I 594 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: don't think he cares, right, I think he does go 595 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 1: a little too far in that world. 596 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: As a follow up to this, do you how many 597 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: other coaches do you feel like, you know, not the 598 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: experienced coaches, the ones that are unexperienced, like Shane steike 599 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: In going into the twenty three season, going into last year, 600 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: how many of those guys are getting the Colts a 601 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: game within a playoff in twenty twenty three, and how 602 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: many of them are you know, still somewhat competitive in 603 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, like sure of those experienced inexperienced coaches, Like, 604 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: how many of those guys are going to you know, 605 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: constantly put the Colts in positions to succeed? Because last 606 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: year we talked about it after pod after pod after pod. 607 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Most of their losses last year were by one score. 608 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: Right, I'll go back to twenty twenty three, more than 609 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: twenty five four for me, Eddie, I come back to 610 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: the offensive side of that question, like the offensive genius, Well, 611 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: he's not really an offensive genius. I mean, how many 612 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: games did he get the Colts to at least twenty 613 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: points with Gardner minshew h Like to me, I'm not 614 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: ready to write that side of him off. The offensive 615 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: side of it. It's more of the handling of the 616 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: entire operation is where I do have some pause right now. 617 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: Now again, the quarterback developmental project, it's just hindsight's twenty twenty. 618 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: But it is just kind of wild that, like he 619 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: wanted obsession with his craft. Jalen hurts, I'll a Justin Herbert, 620 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: I'll off Philip Rivers three very different quarterback stylistically, but 621 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: all with that, with that gene, with that, with that trait. Yeah, 622 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: and then Ballard wanting, hey, you guys live from the pocket. Hey, 623 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: accuracy is so important, and they went with the guy 624 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: that arguably those are the two biggest questions. Yeah, you 625 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: know that. That's where it's just it is a little 626 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: head scratching. 627 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: It just feels like they were in love with a 628 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: particular quarterback and then they may have saw you know, 629 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: Anthony's common and you know all the reports they were 630 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: getting from Morocco Brown at the time just kind of 631 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: and she was like, you know what, but yeah, I 632 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: can work with this. I mean, look at all these tools, 633 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 2: like and you just get caught up in all of 634 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: that and sometimes you forget about, you know, the game 635 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: play and the lack of experience and all those sorts 636 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: of things. 637 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not in my head out a lot of that. 638 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: And look, I think there's twenty twenty three audio that 639 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: would back this up. So I hope I'm not being 640 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: well it's easy to say now, but for me, you 641 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: do everything you can to get to that number one pick. 642 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: You do everything you can, and who knows, maybe would 643 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: have been Bryce Young, maybe would have been Hell, maybe 644 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: it would have been Anthey Richardson. But to me, if 645 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: your traits are defined as elite accuracy and obsessed with 646 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: his craft, I see that quarterback in Houston a lot. Yeah, 647 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: and again I think Carolina would probably have been very 648 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: willing excuse me, Chicago would have been very willing to say, oh, 649 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: we only have to move from one to four, right 650 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: versus one to nine or whatever it was. Yeah, that 651 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: to me, and your trade offer would have looked different, 652 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: I think. And so you know, I remember making this 653 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: poor or analogy, but like, I want to go into 654 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: the gas station right after all the candy bar people 655 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: have stocked those shelves. I don't want to go in 656 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: there Friday at five and nobody's been there all week, 657 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: and now I'm left with freaking warheads. I had one 658 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: last night. I just immediately regretted it. 659 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's just so many things with the 660 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: whole thing and keV that you just like that are 661 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: head scratching. You go back to you know, yeah, and 662 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to rehash all of it, but I know, 663 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: but they are getting these questions. Yeah, you know, you 664 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: go back to like trading the pick for the Forest 665 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: Buckner instead of taking Justin Herbert. You've got people in 666 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: the organization that were infatuated and loved Jalen Hurts. There 667 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: were decision makers that didn't and look at both of 668 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: those guys have a ton of success. And then obviously 669 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: the to boot the Anthony Richardson thing. I know, we've 670 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: got time for one more before we get to the 671 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: uh Fantasy football trivia question. Kevin, So, overlooking the last 672 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: three questions, is the one in particular you would like 673 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: to address. 674 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: Let's just go in order. I haven't looked at them 675 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: too too closely in terms of which one would be different. 676 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: We can save the rest for next week. Okay. 677 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: Matt says he has one word, rutterless. It's really hard 678 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: to be a Colts fan right now. What Cam Turner 679 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: said I think is chicken chip and weak as hell. 680 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: Matt's words, not mine. I don't care what people need 681 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: to save their jobs now. No one can make an 682 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: informed decision on Anthony Richardson's fifth year option ar and 683 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: the pick wasn't a bust. The processing plan was. So 684 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: what should Colts fans be hoping for this season? The 685 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: ceiling is a wild card berth when only to get 686 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: tricked like the Giants did, Why shouldn't fans want this 687 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: to blow up in this regime's face in order for 688 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: the organization to finally get some direction. 689 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Yeah, and again the Alex Smith thing, if 690 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: you want to apply it here. Okay, what a Kansas 691 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: city do They realized there was a ceiling and they 692 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: had to go out and try to find more m 693 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: Obviously they did, and arguably one of the most impressive 694 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: ways in NFL history. But this is a harsh question. 695 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: It's a direct question, and it's a question that I 696 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: think has a ton of validity in it. Do you 697 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: need the hardset reset? Do you need the full hard reset? 698 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: I think you can make a strong argument that you do. 699 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: And you know, you probably see this collegiately, maybe sometimes 700 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: more than professional sports. But it's like, you know, IU 701 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: fans football fans having to witness Tom Allen at Iu 702 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: in that final year, Pacers fans having to go through 703 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: a Nate Buorkrin season hard reset to occur, and then 704 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: here comes Rec Carlisle and so boy that the process 705 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: and plan that Matt mentions here, Yeah, to me, it's 706 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of like, hey, sixteen year old, no 707 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: need to take any. 708 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: Driver's ad classes. Here's the driver's test. Good luck. 709 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: That's how it feels to me. With Richardson, that's how 710 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: it feels a little bit to me, and like the 711 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: process and plan attempting that in a very serious, serious 712 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: manner that strikes me as a little bit more in 713 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: control of how we're gonna go about this than the 714 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: player himself. And I've had questions about Cam Turner, the 715 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: QB's coach for those unfamiliar, was the nephew of Norv Right. Yes, 716 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: Norv gave change second his first head coaching eras first 717 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: coaching job in the NFL. I just generally had offensive 718 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: staff questions. I tweet out the video over the weekend, 719 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: but I asked Shann at the combine, you know, was 720 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: there any thought in changing the offensive staff coming into 721 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: year three? Do you feel like the voices needed to 722 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: change around Anthony Richardson, I e. Jim Bob Cooter, I e. 723 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: Cam Turner, Turner specifically as a position coach, the one 724 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: who's doing Yeah, Shane's involved, but again, so many things 725 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: behind the scenes you would think. 726 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Jim, Bob and Camer are obviously gonna be 727 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 2: the ones working more directly with him, one on run, 728 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: meeting settings, whatever. 729 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: Especially backup quarterback now and you know, Shane said, no, 730 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: I want consistency in those voices. So were those the 731 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: right people at the time for the job or was 732 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: this doomed to fail from the start? And did you 733 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: mis evaluate him? You know again, Ballad didn't want to 734 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: entertain that at all. 735 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: So I have an analogy and I want you to 736 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: rank it okay or grade it. 737 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: So like with the. 738 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: Decision now to go to Daniel Jones, like I said 739 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: this on Quarying Company that you know, there's different seasons. 740 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: You know, we have. 741 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 2: Officially entered pumpkins spice seasons. It's everywhere. Get you go 742 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: to Yankee Candle and they got all their false fall 743 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: candles and all those sorts of things, Halloween candy. Then 744 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: you get into winter and it's Christmas time and all that. Like, 745 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: So the season for the colstest year was particularly and 746 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 2: I think he could be best described in three words. 747 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: Job saving season. That's what it entirely was. 748 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: And now at this point, where they're at to me 749 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: is like you're in a relationship with a girl and 750 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: either at high school or in college, and you know 751 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 2: you're getting ready to graduate. You've been in the relationship 752 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: for a couple of years, and particularly in the college 753 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: scen area, you to graduate. 754 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: One of you gets. 755 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: Job right out of college, and the other one is 756 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: stuck looking for you know, that college or looking that 757 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 2: first job out of college. So one person is moving 758 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 2: on doing greater, better things. The other one's kind of behind, 759 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: still wanting to find to you know, develop, to find 760 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: that first job, to make that breakthrough. And to me, 761 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 2: that is where the cults are at, Like right now 762 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 2: you've got Shane Stacking and Chris Poward. 763 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: They have moved on. 764 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: They are that, you know, the guy or the girl 765 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 2: in the situation that's got that job out of college, 766 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: and Anthony Richardson is the guy kidding out that's still 767 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: looking in development and trying to find that job. And 768 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: that's where the ultimately decision was made to go with 769 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: Daniel and my estimation over Anthony, just because of the 770 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: fact that Shane and Chris are in this mindset now 771 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: privately they won't a minute publicly that they have to 772 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 2: win to prove to Carly, Ursay, Gordon and the rest 773 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 2: of the daughters that they are what their father says 774 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 2: they are, that they are a blue chip GM. They 775 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: are the next donch He is the next Donchula in 776 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: those sorts of things. 777 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: Your thoughts when you said the father aspect, all of 778 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, I got a lion king in my head 779 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: here of like scar talking to a young Simba. Yes, 780 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: and honestly my first thought, will that be enough? It's 781 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: a good question, you know. To further a different analogy 782 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: is this. Unfortunately, and tragically, things have started to dip 783 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: as Jim Mercy's health started to dip, you know, when 784 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: you think about the last eighteen months of his life. 785 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: Unfortunately his health started to go downhill. You know, wasn't 786 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: at as many games as obviously we're used to seeing him, 787 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: and like you saw, the franchise also start to go 788 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: down that path. And now it's okay, here's the next 789 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: generation of family taking over the company. If you will, 790 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: do you look at it and say it's time for 791 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: us to make our imprint or sometimes in business you 792 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: see the next generation take over and it just continued 793 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: to go downhill. Right. I think that is a real 794 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: real conversation here. I've got a run. You let the 795 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 1: audience know the fantasy football trivia question. All right, so 796 00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: this is hoime. We'll do it. 797 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 2: You'll do at Eddie Garrison underscore on Twitter. The trivia 798 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 2: question is Kevin and I put our heads together for 799 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: this one. DM me once again at Eddie Garrison Underscore. 800 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: The Colts last one a regular season opener in twenty fourteen. 801 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 2: Name the head coach twenty thirteen, sorry, name the head 802 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: coach and the starting quarterback of the opponent. That's a 803 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 2: trivia question. That's how you can get into the Colts 804 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: Corner twenty twenty five Fantasy Football League. Thank you, as 805 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 2: always for listening. Kevin and I will be back next 806 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 2: week with another episode of Colts Corner