1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: It's it's very rare. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: I see a headline involving politics or government and I 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: simply said, I don't. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say to this. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: And over the weekend, you had time to think about it, 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: didn't you well? 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: And I'm still like, I don't, I don't know. We're 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: gonna do a segment on it, and I'm like, okay, 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: now I'm going to go with it. I have absolutely 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: no idea. This headline is simply unbelievable, and we'll do 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: our best to get into it. 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: This story broke. What was this? 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: This would have been Saturday evening, I think right Saturday evening. 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: Topless deep fake video royals Indiana office lawmaker's wife targeted, 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: per sources. Correct, that's the headline, then the little what's 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: the thing under the big headline? 17 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: Is it? 18 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: The is that what? 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 4: It's? 20 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 2: Well, not not who wrote it, but the little description. 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: There's a you know, there's always the headline and then 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: the description. Indiana Lieutenant governor denies existence of deep fake 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: video a q his fired staff of fabricating story, but 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: adds that viewing porn in office is fireable offense. 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: This is like a legit headline. 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: Wow. 27 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So this story is by a guy by 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: the name of Tom Labianco. Now, people who've been around 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: Indianapolis for years probably recognize that name. He worked at 30 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: the Indie Star for a while. Most recently he's best 31 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: known he wrote a book called Piety and Power. Mike 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: Pence and the Taking of the White House is a 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: He's a freelance journalist now, which means basically organizations hire 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: him for specific stories pieces. Whatever he's been on CNN, 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: he's this part of the Associated Press, Fox News, MSNBCNPR 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: like he's a big deal. He's a national journalist. And 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: so when I saw the headline and then his name, 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: it was very surprising, obviously to see that this is 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: a story that a guy like that would would work on. So, okay, 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: let's try to work through what Lobbyanco is alleging happened 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: as a part of this. Okay, So he is alleging 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: in this piece. And by the way, you can read 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: it for yourself. It's twenty four site dot news is 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: the is the website right, twenty four site news two 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: four sight dot news, And you can read this whole 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: thing for yourself. Other people shared it an o abdual 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: Adam Randall the local journalists people shared the thing if 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: you want to read it for yourself. So what he's 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: alleging has happened here is that a high ranking well 50 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: multiple high ranking people in Micah's. 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: Office, in the Lieutenant Governor's office. 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: That's correct, were either a part of creating or viewing 53 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: or both, which it's kind of unclear what they call 54 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: deep fake pornography? 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Is that, right? 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: AI generated deep fake videos? 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Yes, so. 58 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: You had the best description of what in their mind, 59 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: They're like, what in the world what is that is 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: that like? And you said, it's basically the stuff Hammere 61 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: does like. 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: Last week, not not what Hammer does similar. 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no, I'm saying it's like but it's 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: the porn. 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: Version, right, Okay, So we were trying to explain this, 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: and do you remember a couple of weeks ago when 67 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: Hammer created an AI of Nigel and it was about 68 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: the Sydney sweeneyad. Oh, yes, he put Nigel in a 69 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: pair of blue jeans and with no shirt. Right, that's great, 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: but you can tell that that really wasn't Nigel's body. 71 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: It was like Nigel's head. Yes, And they made Nigel 72 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: much fatter, larger than what he actually is. Uh huh, 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: and then the genes or another version would be. Just 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: last week he posted a video of you getting punched 75 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: in the face. 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: To promote Off the Rails, Right, so that was really your. 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: Face, Yes, but that wasn't nobody was really punching you. 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: It was created that way through AI. 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: So allegedly, according to Labyanco in the story, there are 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: people in Micah's office who were doing that inside the office. 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: I that they were publishing. Like when Hammer did the 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: thing of me getting punched in the face, he sent 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: me like, do you care if I do a thing 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: of you getting punched. 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: In the face. I was like, no, that's hilarious, do 86 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: it and people loved it. 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Right, This is allegedly these people making a pornographic what 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: a Lobbyancle's describing as a pornographic AI of some sort 89 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: of a lawmaker's wife. 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 3: Correct. So this happened after there was a talent show 91 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: performance and the lawmaker's wife was performing, yes, in the 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: talent show. 93 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: Like legitimately, So I think I think who's your idol 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: is the name of the event, and I think somebody 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: can correct me if I'm wrong on this. It's a 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: charity event where the lawmakers they all kind of put 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: politics aside for an evening. 98 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: They get up, they do events, they. 99 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: Perform, right, et cetera, like a talent show, right, and. 100 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: I think somebody crankingly, I'm wrong. The money on that 101 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: goes to charity. So this lawmaker's wife was performing, did perform. 102 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: In that event. 103 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: And off of this, Labyanco is alleging in this piece 104 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: that people inside of Micah's office took that and made 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: some sort of pornographic presentation which they were laughing at 106 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: and sharing inside the office. 107 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: If I'm reading the story correctly. 108 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so Tom Labianco, the reporter, reached out to 109 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: the Lieutenant governor's office and got a response from the 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 3: Lieutenant governor, and he said it didn't happen. If it 111 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: did happen, or if it happened in the future, that 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: it's a fireball offense, and that he's not going to 113 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: put up with that in his office. 114 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: So, and in the story, by the way, I do 116 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: want to point out in the story, Labianco names the 117 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: people in question. 118 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: We're not doing that. 119 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: But in the story he names the people in question 120 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: that are at the center of this. Now, what's also 121 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: interesting about Micah's quote is that he tries to blame 122 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: someone who was recently let go from his office as 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: being the person who. 124 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Is basically the. 125 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: Starter of the story or the facilitator of the story 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: or whatever. So I will tell you this, and I 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: will do this with permission from the person. I talked 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: to the lawmaker in question whose wife is at the 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: center of this this morning. Yeah, they reached out to me, 130 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: had a long conversation with them about that. I'm not 131 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: going to identify the law maker yet. I think it's 132 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: pretty well known in the state House who this person is. Now, 133 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: it's my understanding. It's this story is much of what 134 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 2: people spent their weekend talking about in and around Indiana 135 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: politics and government. I will tell you this person, and 136 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: they gave me permission to say this. They are taking 137 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: this very serious. Yeah, they're not happy. 138 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be either. 139 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: And they are exploring all their legal avenues that are 140 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: available to them. And I think it's fine when you 141 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: say it's both from the criminal and civil side of things. 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's what the article says. The lawmaker and his 143 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 3: wife are consulting their attorneys and considering civil and criminal 144 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: legal action. 145 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: So I this is as far as I think we 146 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: can take the story right now. If you want to 147 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: read the story itself, you can do that. Like I said, 148 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: many people have shared the story if it turns out 149 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: to be true, which again, it's one story right now, 150 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: and we will see what comes of this, of anything. 151 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: But Tom Labianco is a nationally known person. This is 152 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: and he put his name on it. I mean that is. 153 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: This is a guy, like I said, I mean, you're 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: talking about someone who has covered the president for many, 155 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: many years. He's by all accounts of very even if 156 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: you don't a lot of people don't maybe like his 157 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: politics or some of the things he's written. 158 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: He's a known quantity. 159 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's what has caught people off guard, 160 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: is you have a nationally known quantity doing this story 161 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: in which he's actually naming the people in question at 162 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: the heart of this allegedly. 163 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: Okay, you have to keep in mind at this point 164 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: nothing has been proven. It's unsubstantiated, So you can look 165 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: at this two ways. It's an example of the dangers 166 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: of weaponized AI and one of the reasons why Melaia 167 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: Trump was very adamant to have them pass the Take 168 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: It Down Act, which they did in May. 169 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: So that's important real quick. I don't want to detour 170 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: off your train of thought here, but this is this 171 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: is now both at a state and local level, what 172 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: we call it weaponized AI porn or I don't even 173 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: know what the technical term would be, but you doing these. 174 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: Sort of things non consensual creation and distribution of deep fakes. 175 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: Thank you very good. 176 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: Is now I believe it both the state and federal 177 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: level can be prosecuted criminally if whatever a person has 178 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: done rises to that level. 179 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: Okay, so you can take it as webinized AI or 180 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: since nothing has been proven, this is unsubstantiated gossip. 181 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 2: Right And I look, like I said, had a conversation 182 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: with the lawmaker whose wife is at the center of 183 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: this this morning again his request, and I've got a 184 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: feeling that you don't know for sure that they may 185 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: be making a statement, you know, in the near future. Again, 186 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: don't want to put words in their mouth. They don't 187 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: know what action they're going to take. But that person 188 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: is aware that his wife is at the center of this. 189 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: They're taking it very serious and exploring all their legal options. 190 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: So just like the headline itself, and who knows where 191 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: this is going to go and who knows what's going 192 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: to ultimately come out of this, But this has the 193 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: potential to be a massive story, or if it somehow 194 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: totally gets disproven, a nationally known quantity in the journalism 195 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: world has really put himself out there. 196 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: Well, you do have the Lieutenant Governor on record saying 197 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: it didn't happen, and if it did happen, it's a 198 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: fireable offense. 199 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: Because a major part of this story, or a part 200 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: of this story, I guess you would say, is that 201 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: allegedly correct me if I'm wrong in this story? He claims, 202 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: he being Lobianco claims. 203 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: The writer of the article right that Micah was. 204 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Made a way aware of this or was aware of this, right. 205 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 3: Well, he definitely says that the Lieutenant Governor's chief of 206 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 3: staff okay, was made aware of it, including some ethics officials. 207 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Okay, very good, But he. 208 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: Said it was unclear if an official complaint was ever 209 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: filed with the Indiana Ethics Commission or the Inspector Jen. 210 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. 211 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 2: Thank you for clarifying that, all right, So we'll wait 212 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: to see what comes of it. And we'll just leave 213 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: it there. But it's obviously something that needed to be 214 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: covered and whatever. 215 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: If there's updates, will let you know. 216 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 217 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: B IF the game in Cincinnaty, the Kenney Casey Show 218 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: of Rob that's Casey Blnnie Anderson passed away. 219 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 5: She did. 220 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: She was almost eighty, just a few days short of 221 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: her eightieth birthday. 222 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: And she is probably best remembered for two things. One 223 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: being married to Burt Reynolds and they had a sort 224 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: of a rocky, high profile marriage. 225 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: They were married for what about eleven years? 226 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they were tabloid back when the you know, 227 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: when people actually got their gossip rumor and in you 228 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: indo from the tabloids. 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: You know, you had to go to the news stand. 230 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: They were. 231 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: I remember all the time as a kid, like going 232 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: places with my grandmother and you know, standing in the 233 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: checkout lines and reading the tabloids. And she got one 234 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: of them, the Inquirer one of my camera which one was? 235 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: And Grandma, why do you read that? 236 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: It's interesting, you know, most of it's done real, but 237 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: it's still interesting think about how much our society has changed, right, 238 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: has it really? 239 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 3: I mean, aren't we just putting that on the internet now? 240 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: Well that's my point, Like I used to have to 241 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 2: send you via via United States Postal Service, you. 242 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: Know, bight in the check out of the grocery store. 243 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: But she was also known in terms of her own 244 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: career as the receptionist Jennifer Marlow on WKRP in Cincinnati, which, 245 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: for people like us who are in this business, is 246 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: a beloved program about a small radio station in Cincinnati, 247 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: Ohio and the wacky wild characters in the show, that 248 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: Wally sitcom. I think every radio station I've ever worked 249 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: at there's somebody who resembles one of those characters. 250 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the creator of that TV show was inspired 251 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: from a real radio station. Of course, the call letter's WKRP. 252 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 3: It's not an actual radio station. There is a WKRC 253 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: oh in Cincinnati, but this, you know, the TV show 254 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 3: was based off a struggling AM radio station. And then 255 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: what Andy Travis came in so gay change the format. 256 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Gary Sandy, who's a fairly well known actor, 257 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: was on that program. He's the program director that's hired 258 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: to revamp the radio station. Gordon Jump who was again 259 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: at the time of accomplished, well known actor. He is 260 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: his mother owns the radio station, and he's sort of 261 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: the you know, the liaison. And then Howard Hesseman is 262 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: the morning disc jockey, again a fairly well known actress. 263 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: So there were some people who many of them became 264 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: well known, but some of them who were kind of 265 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: established people who were in this program. And then you know, 266 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: the wacky Frank Bonner played the wacky sales guy, Herb Tarlek, 267 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: and then you had the super cool Venus fly Trap, 268 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: the overnight guy, and Les Nessman, the nerdy news guy, 269 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: and so it's just like it's a perfect especially if 270 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: you ever worked in small time was you know, a 271 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: small radio station. Those people were characters that you knew 272 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: in the building like they represented they represented people who said, oh, 273 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: that's so and so, and that show was so well done, 274 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: and she was such a big. 275 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Part of it. 276 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: And of course, you know, she's the girl that everybody 277 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: in the building you know, wanted to be with, and 278 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: she you know, is keeping everybody at arms ling. 279 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the smart, glamorous receptionist. The show aired from nineteen 280 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: seventy eight to nineteen eighty two. And I gotta imagine 281 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: it's kind of like medical people when they watch Gray's 282 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: Anatomy and they want to point out all the inaccuracies. 283 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: I do that now with old reruns or you know, 284 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: clips of WKRP in Cincinnati, like nope, sorry that the 285 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: monitor would shut off when the mic turns on, which 286 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: it really doesn't do ITV show. 287 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. 288 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: The little things. But there are actually a lot of 289 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: similarities as well. 290 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that show now especially is a 291 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: throwback to how great and what a just an influential 292 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: presence radio once was. And we talk about this all 293 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: the time, like we are not immune because if we 294 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: don't produce, we will be in the same But we 295 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: have been able to stave off a lot of the 296 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: harm that has been done to this industry. One because 297 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: of you, the fabulous audience. You're you're the you know, 298 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: the focal point of this, because you are so engaged 299 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: and you are so passionate about good governance. But because 300 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: of the programming we've been able to put on, and 301 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: because our ownership allows us to operate free of many 302 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: of the restraints that many other corporations place on their 303 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: radio stations. And they stand behind us, and they back 304 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: us up. And they've been been great both both when 305 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: small and owned the station and now with Urban One, 306 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: that we've been able to keep some of that nostalgic 307 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: type of feel about radio and how it runs and operates. 308 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: But many many radio stations, because of the corporations their 309 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: own byte center, have not been able to do that. 310 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: And you don't see people period in the halls anymore. 311 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: What's less people that had the character or the characteristics 312 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: that these didn't. So it's so fun to watch those 313 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: old shows and you're reminded of how fun this industry 314 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: used to be and what a special place you know 315 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: it is, and it had in the hearts of the 316 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: American public, and it's just a what a great show. 317 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: And she was such a big part of that. 318 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, she earned two Emmy nominations and three Golden Globe nominations, 319 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: kind of solidified her as the as a television icon 320 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: as the Blonde Bombshell. One of my favorite episodes, they 321 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: had a consultant come in from out of town, Yes, 322 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: and she started talking to him in a really squeaky 323 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: voice because she didn't want to be on the air, 324 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: and she kind of thought he's going to take one 325 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: look at me and want to put me on the air. Yeah, 326 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 3: because that would be the full package. And she intentionally 327 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: talked in his squeaky voice so that he wouldn't choose 328 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: to put her on the radio. 329 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: And she had and I know, we'll get a break here, 330 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: but she had kind of disappeared from the public eye. 331 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: I think she had had some health challenges in recent years, 332 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: so she wasn't really you know, front and center in 333 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: terms of the American public. But a phenomenal, phenomenal character 334 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: on a phenomenal television show. And so rest in peace 335 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: to Lonnie Anderson at the age of seventy nine. Hey, 336 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: another toy made it under the court at the WNBA game. 337 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: Did you did you see that? 338 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: Oh? 339 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: You have it on the template, So you did want 340 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: me to see that. I just want to make sure 341 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: you were aware. 342 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 3: Oh I saw it. Well, I saw the videos of it. Yes, 343 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: And we've got to talk about what people are doing 344 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: now because of that. Oh no, you're listening to Kendall 345 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 346 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: I have some breaking news. What the Kendall and Casey show. 347 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm roph that's Casey, our old pal J Querry, who 348 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: you can hear middays on the fan one oh seven 349 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 2: five ninety three five is reporting on Twitter if you 350 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: were planning on buying Jim Merces Carmel home too late 351 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: cash sale, already penning wo cash sale. 352 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: He said, Wow, I don't think this is April Fool's way. 353 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 3: Twelve million dollars. 354 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Well now, okay. 355 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 2: So in the comments, somebody was saying it was a 356 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: twelve million in cash, and Jake said went for over 357 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: asking price, more than. 358 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: Twelve million dollars. Can you imagine having twelve million laying 359 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: around to pay cash. 360 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 2: So for those of you who are new to the party, 361 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: I know we've done pretty much every person on this 362 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: radio station has done some sort of thing on this. 363 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: But Jim are say, the now deceased owner, former owner 364 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: of the Indianapolis Colts. He owned a nine point four 365 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: acre piece of property in Carmel which backs or touches 366 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: or next to whatever crooked stick golf course. It is 367 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: just a as you would guess the owner of the 368 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts would have a phenomenal sprawling house. There were 369 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: what like guest quarters or whatever on it. 370 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: No, there were second house, second houses. 371 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, I think there was a golf hole three. 372 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: It was a three par I. 373 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: Mean, it was everything you would expect from a guy 374 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: who owned the Indianapolis Colts and got hundreds of millions, 375 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: if not billions of dollars from the taxpayers to further 376 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: enhance his wealth, and which neither here nor there for 377 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: the purpose of the story. But they were asking twelve 378 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: million dollars for it, and it sounds like not only 379 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: did they get the twelve million, according to Jake Query, 380 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: it went for over the asking price. 381 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: And someone paid cash for that. Who is that someone? 382 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: We don't We don't know, it does not he did 383 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: not have or reveal I bet knowing Jake, he probably 384 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: has the name, but did not did not reveal it. 385 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: So sorry, Casey, I know you were looking to get 386 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: out of the gun shot or fireworks. 387 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 3: Neighborhood in Indianapolis, didn't you. You You did the monthly 388 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 3: payment on that, Yeah, it was it was. 389 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: Eighty well yeah, and it's going to depend on property 390 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: or whatever. But it was roughly eighty two thousand dollars. 391 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: Now that was keep in mind that was only for 392 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 2: nine million, because it would the calculator would not go 393 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 2: up to twelve it would not allow me to add 394 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: what would that be an eighth digit? 395 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: You can only do seven. 396 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: You also calculated the property taxes on it. I couldn't 397 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 3: even afford the property taxes. Little in the mortgage payment. 398 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got nine mill and again, like Karl would 399 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: probably higher because they got a school referendum. It was 400 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: just a generic put your state in. It was like 401 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: eleven thousand something was the annual property tax. Which that 402 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 2: even that seems well, let's see what would one percent? 403 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: One percent? 404 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: Is that right? Would that be right? 405 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: Twelve millions? 406 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 2: If it was a million is yeah, that'd be right 407 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: because one percent of a million would be a thousand. No, 408 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: that's not right, because no, no, no, no, no, that's got 409 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: to be that's gotta be Maybe I was off. 410 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a hundred. I don't know. 411 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: Anyway, you did you did say you were about at math. 412 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to do the math, and we can. 413 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: We can extrapolate this out on what it would be 414 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: right without the reference. Let's do that. See, this is 415 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: why our show. This is our show. Okay, I'm gonna 416 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 2: do this at the top of my head. So if 417 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: if it were if you had one hundred thousand dollars house, 418 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: your property taxes without a school reference would be one 419 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: thousand dollars because it would be one percent. So if 420 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: you had a million dollar house, it would be ten 421 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: million to be ten Is that right? It'd be ten 422 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Yes, it'd be ten thousand dollars. And so 423 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: if you multiply that by twelve that would be one 424 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand dollars correct. 425 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: See I did that. 426 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: I see one percent of twelve million is one hundred 427 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: and twenty thousand. 428 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I think what I was saying 429 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: was of the monthly. They tried to break it out 430 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: by mind of the month, it would be eleven thousand, 431 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: some of which would be right correct, be right, spot 432 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: on right? 433 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. 434 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 3: That's so again, can't even afford the property taxes on 435 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 3: that house, let alone the mortgage. 436 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: But it's a cash sale. 437 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 2: Somebody walked, although who isn't walking in If you can, 438 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: if you could, if you can afford to even see 439 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: the property, there's a good chance you're not gonna have 440 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: to finance it. 441 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: Right, because that's one of those things where you have 442 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: to be preapproved even get the appointment. 443 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: I did laugh because I have a couple of realtor 444 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: friends who apparently had the ability. 445 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: Who wish they had that as a client. 446 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: They put some cryptic message out about it, and I 447 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: was chuckling because they if you'd like to see this property, 448 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: but they were leading on there's some sort of vetting 449 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: process or whatever. 450 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: Like you you and I can just rults in there. 451 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: You're not just going to call the number and say, yeah, 452 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm interested, Sure you are, let me see your financing? 453 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: What's uh? 454 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: Have you ever Okay, obviously not this much, but have 455 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: you ever pondered buying a house that was like out 456 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 2: of your that I have to stretch? Okay, I really 457 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: love this house. It's out of our price range. Like 458 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: have you ever gone through that or every house you've 459 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: ever been in? Has it sort of fit the financial 460 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 2: situation that you were in? 461 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: Now? I you know, I mean it's fun to look 462 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 3: do the Zillow day dreaming. 463 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying, like, actually, you and Jim are 464 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: out looking at houses. 465 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: Well, when we moved here, we looked at a house 466 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 3: that was it would have been on the high end, 467 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: but it was too much house. Yeah for the two 468 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: of us, Like why Am I getting this big of 469 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 3: a house just so I can clean all these extra rooms? 470 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: Sure? 471 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: But then it's like a big empty house house, not 472 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: only empty of people, but empty of furnishings. 473 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got to put stuff in it, right. 474 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: And why are you going to do that for rooms 475 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: that you're never going to use? Yeah, that's that's a 476 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: uh s, I im practical, Like, that's a great point. 477 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: I have a couple of friends who are looking at 478 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: who have done very well in their lives, and they 479 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: were looking at a house and it was like a 480 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 2: massive home and their their kids are older now, and 481 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: the lady was like, what what am I going to 482 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: do with this room? And her husband told her, well, 483 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: you're retiring soon. You have plenty of time to clean it. 484 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: It's not what I would wanting to do with my time. Uh. 485 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 3: The house that I'm talking about was in Fountain Square. 486 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, well that's wild. 487 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 3: So probably made a good move. 488 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: I Uh, I'd like to live in a big house 489 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: at some point, but I just realized I'm too damn 490 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: cheap to ever make that happen. Yeah, But then I 491 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: then I think about it, and I think I'd want 492 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: to live in it for like a month and then 493 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 2: I'd be then I'd be done with it. 494 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: Yes, too much after one mortgage? Famous, this isn't so fun. Yeah, 495 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: I'm done. 496 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: Kind I kind of like living in a small house because. 497 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: There is you know, where everyone is. 498 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me even phrase that with a two year old. 499 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: I like in the summer months, when there's plenty of 500 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: playgrounds and walking and et ceter available, I like living 501 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: in a smaller house. However, in the winter, I know 502 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: this year it's going to be a just a complete 503 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: disaster because you can't go anywhere. 504 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: You can't do anything. 505 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: Well, get her a snowsuit. Yeah, and you've got a backyard, 506 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 3: all right. 507 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: We don't really have time to get into the there's 508 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: another toy has been thrown, and I thought more is 509 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: hammer with us today, I believe, So okay, I want 510 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: to get into that way. 511 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: I hope he got his voice back. 512 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Yeah, he was suffering from some sort 513 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: of voice. 514 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 6: Paralysis, some laryngitis or something over the weekends. Yeah, why 515 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 6: don't we take a break, they're due to I see him. 516 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 6: He's just sauntered past us. So he is here on 517 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 6: his way, So we will get into there are now 518 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 6: apparently more objects being thrown onto the court of the 519 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 6: w NBA. Uh, And we'll get to that and much 520 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 6: more with Hammer. 521 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 522 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: All right, so the toy is getting tossed on the 523 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: floor of the WNBA game is becoming an epidemic, and 524 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 2: well this is just perfect for you. Hammer Jason Hammer, 525 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: co host of the Hammer in Nigel program Afternoons. 526 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: You're on WIBC. 527 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: Hello, is that real that you can bet on which 528 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: color the next one will be? I've seen some things 529 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 5: on social media, but I didn't know if that was 530 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 5: AI or real. Didn't Klay Travis put some odds out? 531 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: He did? Klay Travis put it out and said that 532 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 3: you can now bet on what color the next item 533 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: thrown on the WNBA court will be? 534 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: And bally, if that's real, don't hear me out? 535 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: Huh. 536 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 5: I never condone throwing anything onto the court tonight. You 537 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 5: should not do that. But if this is a real 538 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 5: thing you can bet, why wouldn't you come up with 539 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 5: some sort of plan to sneak in the long shot? 540 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: Color? 541 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 5: I think it's blue, And whether it be yourself or 542 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: somebody that you're with, have them chuck it onto the court, right, 543 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 5: you can fix it, and you could fix it and 544 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 5: make a big amount of money. 545 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, I saw somebody, and this is where the internet 546 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: is both the best and worst humanity has to offer. 547 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: Some person did the math on what your legal fees 548 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: might be for doing this, but what you could win 549 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: because I think green was like fourteen to one, and 550 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: he said if you went green, and they did the 551 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: actual math on how you could come out, and. 552 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: It was a five thousand dollars max on how much 553 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 5: you could. 554 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 2: Bet right, so how much you would make versus what 555 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: your legal fees would be. Because let's face it, they're 556 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: not going to send you to sing sing right over this, 557 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 2: but you might get a fine. They said that you're 558 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 2: going to be banned for a year from the game. 559 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: And so of course some guy did the math and 560 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: it was some you know whatever that is, whatever five 561 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: thousand times fourteen is, is that seventy thousand dollars, Well, 562 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: your legal fees ain't going to be anywhere close to that. 563 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 5: You just you know, you're going to profit around like 564 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 5: sixty eight sixty nine thousand dollars. 565 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: That's if they catch you. That's even if they even 566 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: if they catch you. So and let's be honest here 567 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: in Marion County, there. 568 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: Are dudes out there that have exposed themselves thirty plus times. 569 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: We have the story of the lewd new dude. 570 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 5: In the news who had been arrested thirty nine times here, 571 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 5: So it doesn't feel like they're trying to make an 572 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 5: example out of anybody. 573 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: The WNBA. 574 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: The bigger problem is it again, nobody should ever throw 575 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 2: anything on a nourt. You should not do this. Hopefully 576 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: the people get caught whatever, but a couple things with 577 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: this number one, it really is a bad look for 578 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: the WNBA because they're always fighting that people don't actually 579 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: take us serious. There's a player people take serious. And 580 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: now you've got the lady's wig falling off and you 581 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: got these things getting chucked on the court, and it's 582 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: just like it feeds that narrative. 583 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: But can we talk about are we allowed to call 584 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 5: it what it is? Can we say the D word? 585 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 5: I've heard other people say it. Okay, dildo's being thrown 586 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 5: on the court is not anything new though, Buffalo Bills fans, 587 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 5: they've been chucking those things out for years when they 588 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: played the patriots and like like when Josh Allen has scored, 589 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 5: some people thought about almost as a celebration as a celebration. Yeah, 590 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 5: Bill's fans backed me up here. Those items being thrown 591 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 5: out isn't anything new, So for everybody getting there, you know, 592 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 5: bridges and a twist, this is so sexist. Well it's 593 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 5: kind of just a rowdy fan thing. 594 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: But the other problem you've got and our old friend 595 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: Ben Verbannik, the most beautiful man in tarao Hote television. 596 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: He was in town. 597 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: He's better looking than Phil Sanchez here. 598 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: He'd get Phil run for his money. But he's Tara 599 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: Hote standard. So by Tera HOAt, he's A. 600 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: He's A. 601 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: He's a. 602 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: He's a Tara Houghton eight. 603 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: But he's probably in Indianapolis six. 604 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I'm saying though. But in you are 605 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: you are, sorry, Ben, you are. 606 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: In the environment of which you operate, right, It's like 607 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: I would be a TV too. I feel like you 608 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: compare me to cats. I'm pretty strong, right, So. 609 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 5: You know, it's like being the valedatorian of Summer School 610 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 5: Watchose Radio. You don't have to dress up and look 611 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 5: at your competition. So what of all this though, is 612 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 5: we were watching the they we were at a local 613 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 5: watering hole downtown and prominent establishment, and they had all 614 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: the baseball games and the fever on yesterday. 615 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: And you were watching it just to see if something 616 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: was thrown. 617 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: Well, we had to is the thing right in front 618 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: of us, right? And we're watching the other things, and 619 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: we were pondering, like, how do you market this league? 620 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: How do you market out of when you're the consumer 621 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: base kind of thinks you're such a joke outside of 622 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: one person that this is how they respond to you. 623 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna put my marketing pants on here because 624 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 5: I've been a marketing director before. 625 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: I said this the other day. 626 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 5: Five ten years from now, somebody's going to write a 627 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 5: book on how bad the WNBA handled the Golden Goose 628 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 5: situation of Caitlin Clark. They're going to look back and say, 629 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 5: we had somebody that had the ability to make our 630 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 5: league matter, to sell out arenas. We play in bigger venues. 631 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 5: We could probably sell more tickets if we wanted to, 632 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: and instead we bullied her. We beat the hell out 633 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: of her. We kicked out fans that laughed. When a 634 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 5: wig gets knocked off, you've got players wanting to sit 635 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: out and get traded so they can play with their 636 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 5: girlfriends and dongs being thrown on the court, Like when 637 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 5: you add it all up years from now, like where's 638 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 5: the leadership of this league? 639 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And we were talking to the bartender because they said, like, 640 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: how does how is business affected without Caitlin Clark playing? 641 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: And one of the things he. 642 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: Said is that they have had people who have made 643 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: what in hindsight was a massive mistake of buying these 644 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: tickets in advance. And one person was coming from some 645 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: multi state travel and there they fought, well, we paid 646 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: the ticket, we bought the hotel or rent of the hotel, 647 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: we got to go. But he said, they're just sitting 648 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: there at the bar, seething that they got to go 649 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: to this game that they don't want to go to 650 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: now in a hotel. 651 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: And the reason why they bought the ticket isn't even 652 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: playing exactly. 653 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 5: So that's that's a gamble sports fans. 654 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: It is it is. 655 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: But she seems to have been out and I'm not 656 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: saying it's her fault by any stretch of the imagination. 657 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 2: Players play, they get hurt whatever, But when like if 658 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: you buy a ticket to you know, a Chicago Cubs 659 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: game and your favorite player isn't there. That stinks, But 660 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: you're still seeing tippy top professional athletes that people want 661 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: to see and it's the Wrigley Field experience and blah 662 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 2: blah blah, And there's a bunch of ways you can 663 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: try to make that make that hole right. It stinks 664 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: that your best your favorite player isn't playing, but you 665 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: at least have things that you can feel like, Okay, 666 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing these things to get my money's worth. Let's 667 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: face it, people want to see her. Nobody wanted to 668 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: go to these games before her. They're paying to see her. 669 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: And you have so much writing on this one person. 670 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 5: But that's a basketball issue, right, That's the only league 671 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 5: where it feels like we have this issue. Because this 672 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 5: past year, look at the men's the NBA Golden State 673 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 5: comes to Indy one time, one time. Steph Curry. He's 674 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: somebody people buy Christmas gifts to go see. Right, if 675 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: you have a son or a daughter that loves basketball 676 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 5: and Steph Curry is their favorite player, he comes into 677 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 5: your town one time a year, and he came here 678 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 5: and Steve Kerr, the weasel head coach of Golden State 679 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 5: faked some sort of en it was load management. Curry 680 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 5: was fine, but he was in street clothes and that's 681 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 5: what sucks. 682 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 2: And you read the stats on because people are like, 683 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: who's the goat, Michael Jordan or Lebron James. Michael Jordan 684 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: went something like three years and never missed a single game, 685 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: like that's a road game, home game, And part of 686 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: that was he said, look, people buy this ticket to 687 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: see me. People are paying premium price to see me play, 688 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: whether it's a home game where you have regular access 689 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: to him, or certainly a road game. And all these 690 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: guys Bird Magic, they were all that way where it's 691 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: like people are paying to see me. I'm a pro athlete. 692 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna play. If 693 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 2: they were out, they were legitimately hurt. 694 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 695 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 5: And with Caitlyn, what I've seen with her is I 696 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 5: kind of think she is a bit of a throwback. 697 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 5: But when she came back from her first injury, one 698 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 5: I think she came back too quickly. But two then 699 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 5: she had like a gang initiation jumping by that one 700 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 5: Phoenix team where they knocked her down and beat the 701 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: hell out of her. And only one teammate Sophie Cunningham 702 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: had the you know what's to stick up for? 703 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: I think we talk about this last week that somebody 704 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 2: said this and it was it was true, and I 705 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: can't remember who to credit this to, but they said 706 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: people pay to go to sporting events to see things 707 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: they couldn't possibly do themselves. 708 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: That's part of it. You might see the best in 709 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: the world exactly. 710 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: And when you watch a w NBA game and I'm 711 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: not by that well, especially without Kaitlyn Clark, it sort 712 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: of reminds you of what pick up basketball. I'm sorry, 713 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: Like there's some guy who you can see yourself doing 714 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 2: many of the things they're doing. I can shoot from 715 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: the hip, you know, I can you know I can 716 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: miss layups. There was some lady yesterday and I'm not 717 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: again the Seattle player. She's a wide open basket and 718 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: I said, I bet she's gonna miss this. 719 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: And she missed it. 720 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: Now she grabbed the rebound and put the rebound back 721 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: in and got a foul. But it's like, you're not 722 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: gonna ever you're gonna see some windmill tomahawk fabulous slam 723 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: dunk in an NBA game, right. 724 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 5: It becomes more civic pride than anything else. Do you 725 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 5: want your city, your team to win, and when you 726 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 5: go to the game, it's kind of a bonding, right, Hey, 727 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 5: it's Indy, we're here, it's sold out, Go Fever, Let's go. 728 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 5: But yeah, they got to get number twenty two back 729 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 5: and the league has to accept it. 730 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: Speaking of civic bonding, what are we civically bonding over 731 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 2: with Hammer and Nigel this afternoon? 732 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: Nigel is out. 733 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: Oh well that's he knew my voice wasn't perfect, so 734 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 5: he said, I'm gonna call in today. We'll see how 735 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 5: the big show sounds. Guy Ralford is gonna be great. 736 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: He's filling in Monday, gun Day. 737 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: So let's have a good time. 738 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 3: Thanks Hammer. It is Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC.