1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: The Indiana Hoosiers. They go out to Austin Stadium and Eugene, Oregon, 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: and I thought out Oregon to Oregon because look, I 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: think the world of Oregon and the way that they 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: that football program and the fact that they seem to 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: always have speeded every position and Indiana was faster. Indiana 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: was better thirty to twenty. They win. Don Fisher joining 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: us now on the Java House. Peel and poor guest 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: line and Don Todd Meyer are executive producer. Just came 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: in and said, you know, and Todd's a prdue guy, 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: by the way, and he said, you know, I'm just 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: happy for Don Fisher. And we've talked about that before, 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: but Don, this is unbelievably cool. And I know that 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: we went through this last year, but man, it feels 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: like it's even another rung Hire, doesn't it. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: It does right now, there's no doubt about that. Obviously, 16 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: Indiana winning over Oregon at Oregon against a team that 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: everybody picked to win that ball game, and now Indiana's 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: moved up into the spot that they were essentially in 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: the third position in the rankings. It's like it's kind 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: of a fairy tale, if you know what I mean, 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: especially for those of us who have been around Indiana 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: football for as long as I have. But at the 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: same time, it's not a fairy tale. We know that 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: it's reality, and it's probably the most fun I've ever 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: had calling football games. 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Don I think the thing And I want you to 27 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: tell me if you agree with this or if what 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm about to say even makes sense. But to me, 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: the thing that is the most astounding of this is 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: it is a complete mindset shift in culture change. And 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: by that I mean, you know, I'm watching that game 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: with Oregon and I'm sitting there visualizing and seeing the 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: lane open up, where I think, to myself, this is 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: going to be a typical Kurt Signetti Indiana game where 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: they just wait for the other team to make mistakes, 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: they keep their foot on the pedal, they pull away, 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: and in the last couple of minut that you know 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. And that is such the antithesis 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: of the mindset that we had for so long. It 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: is remarkable to me that we in two years, have 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: almost forgotten about what it was like to be an 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Indiana fan for the previous one hundred Does that make sense? 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: It does, except I'll never forget well, yeah, what it 44 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: was like before, But I will tell you this, there's 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: no question that it's a complete mind change. It really is, 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: and as quickly as it has come, that's the most 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: remarkable thing, because I don't know that anybody has ever 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: turned a program around faster than what Kurt Signetti has 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: and then turned that mindset of the fan base around 50 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 2: along with it. Because I don't care who you are, 51 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: if you've been in to get a football fan or 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: wherever you've been, sorry about that big mag truck to 53 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: Assisio on by at any rate, if you've been a 54 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: football fan at Indiana for any length of time, you 55 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: know what the struggles have been and how do you 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: get out of that? And you know the Bill Valory 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: era was a great era of Indiana football and nobody 58 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about that back in the day because 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: they started out oh eleven in Bill's first year, and 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: then it was four and seven the second year. But 61 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: after that, all of a sudden, for about the next 62 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: eight years, Indiana football was something special under coach Mallory. 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: But this has been beyond that because of the success 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: and how quickly it has come, And so there's no 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: way to forget the past and know what we were 66 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: at that time. But at the same time, you better 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: celebrate this while it's happening, because we don't know how 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: long that's going to take place. But we do know 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: that if Kurt Signetti is here that long, it's going 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: to say this way because he is something special. 71 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Don you know? You go back to Bill Mallory, who 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: was a great football coach, and while I did not 73 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: know him by all account, from what I've heard, a 74 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: great man, right. I mean, those that played for him 75 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: speak the world of Bill Mallory and and those teams 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: were tough and disciplined. Signetti's teams are those things. But 77 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's a different era of football now, and 78 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: they there's a speed there. I mean, they just they 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: are literally they swarm you. So my question would be this, 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: and maybe we don't know this because it's only two 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: years in, but do you believe that Kurt Signetti has 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: gone out and gotten players that have basically been able 83 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: to play the system that he had in mind? Or 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: is this the kind of coach that because of coming 85 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: in here, getting the transfers and then with the portal, 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: he is schematically coming up with things that benefit what 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: it is that he sees. Does that make sense what 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking? 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Jake, the thing about Signetti is this, 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: and I don't think I think he gets different players. 92 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: But here's the first thing. The first thing about Sabetti 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: is when he looks at film, he dissects a player. 94 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: He dissects what he thinks is really good, what he 95 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: doesn't think is quite as good. Can I coach this kid? 96 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: Is he coachable? He looks at the character or the 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: kid first, and then he figures out if this guy 98 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: progresses like we think he can, does he fit what 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: we need? So he goes through a whole process of 100 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: how he looks at players, whether they're in high school 101 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: kids or they're transfer portal players. And when he looks 102 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: at the transfer portal, he looks at experience first, other 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: than the character aspect. That character is one of the 104 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 2: biggest things he looks at first. But again he looks 105 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: at playing experience. How much is this guy played? Is 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: he coachable? Can he change? Can he do things that 107 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: we ask him to do? He goes through a whole 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: process of things. I can't even relate all the things 109 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: that he asks himself about what he sees on film 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: with a kid, and then in talking to that young 111 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: man to see if he can get him to come 112 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: to Indiana. So he's just unique in that way. I 113 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: don't think he looks at the ranking of a player. 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: We got more three star guys in this football team 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: that we have anything else other than a few transfer 116 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: portal guys that came in. But he's looking at whether 117 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: he thinks the kid could develop and be the kind 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: of player that he likes, the kind of player that's disciplined, 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: understands his role, and then takes care of business on 120 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: the field. So I just think he's unique. I'm not 121 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: saying that if there are any other coaches that do 122 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: exactly the same thing, because there may be. I just 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: haven't been around him other than a Bill Bowery type 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: who was all about toughness and physicality when he came here, 125 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: and when you watched the Indiana play under Bill Bowery 126 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: in his first year in Indiana, you could tell that 127 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: this team was going to be better than what we'd 128 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: had in the past just by the way they went 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: out and performed on the field. And it wasn't because 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: they were a great teams. They were all to eleven 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 2: of that first season, and then they got better and 132 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: better in the next two years. Kurtz Signetti has done 133 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: this in one season. He's done the very first season 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: he's been here. It made him a successful team got 135 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: to the College Football Playoff. That's why this is so unique. 136 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: It's so much fun to be a part of because 137 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: we've never seen anything like it before. 138 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: Don speaking of never seen anything like it now, I'm 139 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: not saying what I'm about to say, I've never seen, 140 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: but it's been a while in terms of great catches. Okay, 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: there was a play in that game in Oregon that 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: I thought exemplified the Signetti era, and I'm talking about 143 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: Omar Cooper Junior goes up and makes a one handed grab. 144 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was a second down or 145 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: a third down. I think it was in the first 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: half of the game, but he makes this remarkable one 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: head to catch right, he comes down and then has 148 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: the presence of mind to then put a spin move 149 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: basically break a tackle and dive forward to get the 150 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: first down. So he had the style was there, but 151 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: it was the presence of mind and the discipline to 152 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: then have the substance to finish the play and go 153 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: one step further. Now, some of that Omar Cooper, the 154 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: kid out of Lawrence North. You know, he gets a lot, 155 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: He gets all the credit there, don't get me wrong. 156 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: But part of that to me just feels like it 157 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: exemplified attention to detail. And I don't know that I've 158 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: seen a sports team that we've covered in this market 159 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: have attention to detail like this Indiana football team. Now, 160 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you Don Fisher the permission here 161 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: to tell me that I am full of hyperbole there. 162 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: Well, there's no question there is a tremendous amount of 163 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: attention to detail on this football team. For every position, 164 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: for every player, They all are responsible for those things. Again, 165 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: it is something that Signetti and his coaching staff teaches. 166 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: They teach you the things you have to do on 167 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: the football field to be successful. And if you look 168 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: at here's the other thing, Jake, fundamentals. If you don't 169 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: coach fundamentals, then you have no chance to be a 170 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: great football program, or a great basketball program, or anything 171 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: else in sports. You have to teach the fundamentals first, 172 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: and they have to be a constant from a practice perspective. 173 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: And if you do that, all of a sudden, things 174 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: start to fall a place for players. When the players 175 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: realize that that's the key. As you pay attention to 176 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: fundamentals and you work on those kinds of things, that's 177 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: when you become a great football player and a great 178 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: football team. And I think that is again something that 179 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 2: this coach and this coaching staff puts forward on a 180 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: daily basis in their practice sessions and all those kinds 181 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 2: of things and the other thing that they do. And 182 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: I think this is critical this day and age because 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: there are so many coaches at the football on football 184 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: and basketball, they just practice NonStop. They'll go two and 185 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: a half, three and a half hours, those kinds of things. 186 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: This coach doesn't do that. They practice an hour at 187 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes generally speaking. That's about it. And every moment 188 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: of those practices are something's going on, something's being instructive, 189 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: something's being talked about, and they work on that repetitively 190 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: all the time. It's just it's a process. To some 191 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: it could be a genious process. But to these players, 192 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: I think they've all bought into the idea. If we 193 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: continue to do this the way our coach is asking 194 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: us to do it. And I heard Aidan Fisher basically 195 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: in an interview the other day simply say the very 196 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: same thing I'm talking about here. You continue to do 197 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: it day after day, week after week. You mount one 198 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: practice and one fundamental on top of the other, and 199 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: you just continue to work at it, and you just 200 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: try to get better each and every time that you're 201 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: in a practice session. I just think that philosophy is 202 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: the only way to go if you're going to be successful. 203 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: And maybe other schools do it, I've never seen anybody 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: do it faster than what Signetti has done it with 205 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: this program and with this team, and maybe the transfer 206 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: portal and the older guys that they get out of 207 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: the portal and guys that they're more experienced, they buy 208 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: into it too. So it doesn't matter who coached you before. 209 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 2: Do you have to buy into what they're selling now. 210 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: And these kids all do it and it's amazing. 211 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: Okay, Don, before we let you go, Don Fisher is 212 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: our guest. He's on the Java House peeling poor guest line. 213 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: He's the voice of the third ranked Indiana who's yours 214 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: highest ranking in school history? Don, obviously, and it goes 215 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: without saying you know you mentioned it. How long is 216 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: Signetti going to be here? Well, I'm going to get 217 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: into that in a minute here, but I wanted to 218 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: ask your take on this. We don't know, obviously, and 219 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: it would be unfair for me to pretend that you 220 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: have some sort of immediate line into the thought process 221 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: of Kurt Signetti in his future. But because his home 222 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: state school, a major power in Penn State, is now 223 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: looking for a coach, his name is going to be 224 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: linked to that. What sort of things has he said 225 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: to you, insinuated to you in interviews or otherwise just 226 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: in terms of his I guess comfort level at Indiana 227 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: and whether or not you think he is a guy 228 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: that has an eye elsewhere. 229 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: The only thing I could tell you in that regard, 230 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: Jake and I have no knowledge of what his plans 231 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: are in the future, other than to say that last year, 232 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: when somebody asked him something about all the success you 233 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 2: had this first year in Indiana, would you be looking elsewhere? 234 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: He said? Why would I be? Why would I want 235 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: to leave an emerging superpower? So I tell you, Jake, 236 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna worry about that. I'm going to 237 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: enjoy what I see right now have fun with it 238 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: relation and hopefully couraging that he stays here forever. But 239 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: if it doesn't happen that way, I'm still gonna thank 240 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: a man who has absolutely changed Indiana football. 241 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: It's no question. I mean, it's unbelievable. And it continues 242 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: with Michigan State next on the schedule. That game Saturday 243 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: three point thirty start in Bloomington and what will be 244 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: an awesome, awesome atmosphere, and Don Fisher will have the call. 245 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: Of course, Don, it was an awesome day on Saturday 246 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: third ranked. Certainly enjoy it and we look forward to 247 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: listening with the Michigan State game coming up in five 248 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: days from now. Appreciate it as always, Thanks. 249 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: Jake, appreciate your having me as always. 250 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: All Right, Don Fisher the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers. 251 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: It is the Indianapolis Colts at five and one after 252 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: yesterday's win over the Arizona Cardinals, joining us now as 253 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: he does each and every Monday from CBS four and 254 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: WXI in Fox fifty nine. And by the way, kudos 255 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: in particular to Fox fifty nine and Russ McQuaid. Yesterday, 256 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: I believe they might have been the only media outlet 257 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: that had the wherewithal to be in position to interview 258 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez yesterday, and they have been on top of 259 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: that story from day one, and that television station has 260 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: been all over that. Mike Chapel, the dean of writers 261 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: for the Colts, joining us now on the Java House 262 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line and chap Colts the number 263 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: one seed overall. Yesterday was a game that I thought 264 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: the Colts did, Mike, what you expect good teams to do, 265 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: and that is you just find a way to win. 266 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: You know, Jacoby Brissett was efficient for Arizona, but in 267 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: the end, the Colts did what they needed to do 268 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: to win. My question for you would be this, are 269 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: we going to eventually have to address or discuss any 270 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: vulnerabilities defensively for Indianapolis? 271 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: And we have, Uh, their past rush hasn't been good enough. 272 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: They're not getting enough from law to and and Quitty 273 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: pay quit. He had two sacks Chesterdy. But the linebackers 274 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: are are are good at tackling their liabilities in in coverage, 275 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: which which Zaire Franklin, he's really really effective. He was 276 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: all pro Uh when he's allowed to do what he does, 277 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: and when you've got to do more things, not so 278 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: much the secondary. It's it's I understand people bitch at 279 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: the moment, and I do. We're up in the press 280 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: box just making comments, but they're playing people who wouldn't 281 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: be playing that. These guys are like and they're they're 282 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: playing their butts off and all this, but but they're 283 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: like your sixth or seventh corners. They just are. You know, 284 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: I mentioned all the guy I wrote in the story today, 285 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: of all the people that are out with kidny Or 286 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: and Jalon Jones and Justin Wadeley, I forgot Mike Hilton. Hilton, 287 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: you know, he's house so you know, And and I 288 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: don't want to be a battle apologist. I don't, but 289 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: there is no way that any GM can can provide 290 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 3: this the level of depth that covers up these injuries. 291 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: Can't do it. And then and then you lose Mooney 292 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: Ward for crying at laud. It's you know, when I 293 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: saw the video of he and Drew Ogletree colliding, I 294 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: flashed back to that if it's like a comedy thing 295 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: where you got two ships in the ocean, in this 296 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: big ocean and they ran into each other. Uh that 297 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: that just told you how it was going to be 298 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: difficult because Mooney War was going to be on Marvin Junior, 299 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: who ended up getting hurt. But when when you you 300 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: lose arguably your top defensive player in pregame warm ups, 301 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: now you imagine the scrambling that goes on. So we've 302 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: talked about it and and part of its injury related 303 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: the linebacker, in my mind is because as I said, 304 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 3: there were like eight things on the list to do 305 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: in the off season, and linebackwards one of them, and 306 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: that's the one that they can get to. Well, I'm 307 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: glad they got to the other seven and this is 308 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: the one they did can get to. But the pass 309 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: rush bothers me because it's just not it's not consistent. 310 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: Brissett just had too much time. Too many times he 311 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: escaped a couple of times. Quarterbacks do that, but that 312 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: should have been a quarterback that you really smoked, and 313 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: they didn't. And they're just not getting enough from the 314 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: edge Samson have become. I'm not getting on him. He's 315 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: coming back from an Achilles for crying out loud, but 316 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: you need you need more from your two first round 317 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: draft picks, and yeah, pressures and this, that and the other. 318 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: I give me some sacks. These guys get paid for 319 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: sacks they do. They need more from it. And it's 320 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: I think a lot too is a great athlete, and 321 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: he may end up being a really really exceptional player 322 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: after six weeks. I don't want him having more interceptions 323 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: in sacks. I just don't think that's a good thing. 324 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: Chap when you look at Mike Chapel is our guest. 325 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: He's on the Joba house Peel and poor guest line. 326 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: When you look at the lineback, like if you look 327 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: defensively yesterday, in general, they were let in tackles by 328 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Jermaine Pratt who had a you know, was an efficient 329 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: day for him, but he also was a guy that 330 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: was just acquired. Is that more so saying hey, what 331 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: a great signing, or is that more so saying that's 332 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: problematic and it shows weakness elsewhere. 333 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: The ladder the ladder it because remember and he can 334 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: keep in mind, and this isn't throw shade on Jermaine Pratty. 335 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: He had eleven tackles for Kraneut with like three practices. 336 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: They had a chance to sign him when the Bengals 337 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 3: cut him whenever it was six weeks ago or whatever, 338 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: and the money I think was probably a little too steep. 339 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: It was like four million dollars guaranteed whatever they and 340 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: as Chris and Shane like to do that, they really 341 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: wanted to see more from their own guys. They did, 342 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: they really, they really believe on they're in their own guys. 343 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: Uh but in this case it hasn't worked out and 344 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: they're just susceptible to the coverage. 345 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: They just they just are. 346 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 3: And uh So there again, what you're playing guys in 347 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: positions or number of reps who normally shouldn't be doing that. 348 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: And again that's how it was in the secondary with 349 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: Jonathan Edwards, an unreppord rookie, and Chris Lemons who spent 350 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: a lot of time on the practice squad, and and 351 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: Michael or Mackayah Blackman who was acquired in a trade early. 352 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: So it's when you had that it makes it tough 353 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: and then it makes things worse on the secondary when 354 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: you're not pressured to quarterback. So it was just yet 355 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: they found a way. That's that's the best way to 356 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 3: do anything. I know people are saying, well, god, look 357 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: who they've beaten. Well, you beat who you play? Uh, yeah, 358 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: they should have beaten the Rams, and they should have 359 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: lost a Denver so things even out. But that's why 360 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: I was watching some of the national shows today and 361 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: they still Teddy Bruce, he doesn't believe in these guys 362 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: at all. Maybe that's a little bit of the New 363 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: England right thing. I don't think this is a super 364 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: Bowl contender as it as it is, but once you 365 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: get in, who knows. But I think it's I think 366 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: it's a team that could do something in the playoffs, 367 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: whatever something is, you know. But right now they're first 368 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: in THEFC South, which is which is step one. It 369 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: is step one to getting a home game and getting 370 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: in and then we'll see and and the way the 371 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: rest of the AFC has sort of just sort of 372 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: floundered outside of Buffalo and Kansas City is apparently getting 373 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: itself back together. In the Chargers, you just you just 374 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: don't know what's there. Miami's is a dumpster fire New 375 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: England maybe, but it's right there for them to be 376 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: in the thick of it all the way. The schedule 377 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: gets tougher later on. But that's why we've all talked 378 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: about this first part of the season. Going into the 379 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: game in Berlin with Atlanta. Holy smokes, you've got a 380 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: chance to set yourself up or something whatever that's something 381 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: is and that's what they're doing. 382 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: Chap this is and maybe you know, I was going 383 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: to say, maybe it's not time for this conversation, but 384 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's ever you know, a good 385 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: time bad time when it comes talking colts, right, I mean, 386 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: the reality is this, we should celebrate what this team 387 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: is doing. Their five and one. Daniel Jones has just 388 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: been exceptional. I thought yesterday he showed a lot by 389 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, when there are a lot of quarterbacks that 390 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: if they throw a pick or a pick six, they 391 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: will you know, he continues to respond, But I'm curious, 392 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: and I know that it's it's not his fault at times, 393 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: it's just not. But is the Anthony Richardson contractual question 394 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: starting to answer itself just based on the fact that, 395 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier, he seems to be a magnet 396 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: to the bizarre and to the unfortunate. 397 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: And that's sad it is. 398 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, but at the same time, don't you again, 399 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: it's not his fault at all, right, I mean, it's 400 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: a totally bizarre fluke thing. But if I said to 401 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: you if I stopped, if I literally walked into Lucas 402 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: Oil Stadium yesterday an hour before the game, before any 403 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: news had come out, and said, folks, I'm taking a survey. 404 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: A player just had an orbital bone fracture because a 405 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: rubber band during stretching snapped and came back and hit 406 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: him right in the eye. Who is it? Ninety two 407 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: out of one hundred people would say, what's gotta be 408 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson? 409 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: Right? I know, I know, and that's too bad. But 410 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: aside from that, take take that out of the mix. 411 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: I was wrong. I'll say I was wrong. I would 412 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: have gone with Richardson coming out of training camp. I 413 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: really would have, because my pea brain thought, they've got 414 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: to figure out what they have at the end of 415 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: the season. They've got to know what they have in Richardson. Well, 416 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: in my mind, as it turns out, they knew what 417 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: they had, whether it was at the end of last season, 418 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 3: whether it was some March day when Shane Steichen was 419 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: having a brew in the back porch they decided. He 420 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 3: decided that Jones, for so many reasons, was the right guy. 421 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: This is before practices and all that stuff, and that 422 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: Richardson wasn't. So you know, I I I think if 423 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 3: this thing continues the way it is and and they're 424 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: knocking on the playoff door or the division title, whatever, boy, 425 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: I think they find a way to go forward with 426 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: rich with Jones, and they find a way to move Richardson. 427 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 3: I just don't see any path forward for Richardson here 428 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: unless Jones gets hurt in the next couple of weeks 429 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: and in Richardson's you know, eye injuries, Okay. 430 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: Well he's not available. I mean, do you remember, as 431 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, I mean, do you remember when Reggie 432 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: Miller and I'm going back thirty years ago I realized, yes, yes, 433 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: but Reggie Miller had a similar injury. Now, one was 434 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: listed as a break and one as a fracture. I 435 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'll get Ralph Reefon at some 436 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: point this week to kind of verify or go through that. 437 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: But but you know that injury kept Reggie Miller out 438 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: for a while. I mean, this is in and you 439 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: feel bad for him, right. 440 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 3: I think this key is interesting that for two or 441 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: three weeks minimum, because you know, keep in mind, when 442 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: you're playing, when you're practicing, you you're jarring the body 443 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 3: and your eyes and all this, and that's just got 444 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: it that that can't be even remotely good for a 445 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: healing over won fracture. It can be so I and 446 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: I just posted today, I think they're going to look 447 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: for a veteran. And it's not shade on Riley Leonard 448 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: at all, but but he was He was a six 449 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 3: round pick, a developmental guy. Has done everything right so far. 450 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: But are you going to put a five and one 451 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: team that that can do some things in the hands 452 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: of a six round draft pick? Now, you're going to 453 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: try to find somebody who, as a veteran, has played, 454 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: knows what's going on, has no clue what your offensive. 455 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: That's the downside. Took him in stone cold. That worked 456 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: on I mean, Joe Flacco did that. Maybe if this 457 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: happened last week, you make a trade with Cleveland and 458 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: bring Joe back here. I don't know, but I looked 459 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: at the list of available quarterbacks and it's not even 460 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: oh really that guy. No, there's none of those guys. So, 461 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: but I do think they'll do that, and just to 462 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: be safe, because I didn't notice that Jones is only 463 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: there's only been one season. He's not missing him with 464 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: an injury, and that was in twenty twenty two, so 465 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: you know, he tends to get hurt like quarterbacks do, 466 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: and they've got to have somebody who can step in 467 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: and at least run things competently, if that's the right word. 468 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if they can even do that on 469 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: short notice, but I do think I'll have tryouts tomorrow, 470 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: and I think while I was signing on Wednesday. 471 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: Or I just do you know, chap Here's what's interesting 472 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: to me about the quarterback position. Mike Chapel is our guest. 473 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to one of my really 474 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: bad analogies here. Okay, chap I have never I have 475 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: a ton of my reals. Yeah, okay, I have my 476 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: entire life. Academically speaking, I couldn't. I couldn't get algebra. 477 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: I just couldn't grasp algebra. That's true of most of 478 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: us that are in the broadcast profession. 479 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 3: By the way, but probably why we're in the product. 480 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. But in order to grasp algebra, you 481 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: first have to understand the basics of math, long division, multiplication, 482 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: and then they all interweave to become algebraic formula. If 483 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: you don't know the basic steps of math, then you're 484 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: never going to get algebra. Okay. It seems to me 485 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: like in the offensive scheme, the Colts right now are 486 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: doing offensively things that we have not seen in this 487 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: town with this franchise, some of it forever. But they 488 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: are leading the league in scoring, They are efficient, they 489 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: are working it in so many different ways. And Anthony 490 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Richardson was capable occasionally of the big algebraic type fancy 491 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: play of like how the world did that just happen? 492 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: But for the most part it was the basic fundamental 493 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: that was eluding him. And it feels to me like 494 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: the reason the Colts offensively are where they are is 495 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: because Daniel Jones mastered long division and multiplication, and that 496 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: then allows Shane Steichen to occasionally pop in the algebraic 497 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: formula to keep people guessing. But you had to start 498 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: with the basics. And I think we all were looking 499 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: at which quarterback was going to be the big play guy, 500 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: and Steichen went with the guy that actually was the 501 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: basic guy because that's the foundation he wanted to build 502 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: off of. Does that make it? 503 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: And yes, and still giving you some big place. 504 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. They can mix that in now 505 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: right right. 506 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: It's kind of like when you're in school and in 507 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: your head you can figure out what the answer was, 508 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: so you put down thirty one. Well that they want 509 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: to know why you get to thirty one. And sometimes 510 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. In my head, I could tell 511 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: you how I got to it, right, So yeah, I 512 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: think I think you're right. And that's why I say 513 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: when I didn't agree with what Chang Styken did it, 514 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: and when he and when he kept explaining it and 515 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: he told us he he flat told us idiots, well 516 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: that it's the free stamp, it's operations, it's it's finding 517 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: completions and all that stuff. And he was telling us 518 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 3: and some of our guys, some of the press guys 519 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: got it understood. And I was I was that dunce 520 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: in the back room thinking but but but and it it. 521 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: I was looking more long term and he was looking 522 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: short term. And again Chris Baller told us in wherever 523 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: was January, we're going to bring another veteran, and well, 524 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: does Anthony Richardson have the leg out? We're going to 525 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: go with the guy that helps us win games? 526 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: Does that okay? Does this make it? Chap In the event, 527 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: Let's say they go out and they sign now and 528 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: off the beach veteran quarterback to be the backup because 529 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is unavailable. Does this allow for them perhaps 530 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: to have in the event, god forbid, you've got to 531 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: go to that and play that player. Does the the 532 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: fact that the offense is rooted in simplicity make it 533 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: easier to transfer to a veteran quarterback if you need 534 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: one to spell you for a game or two. 535 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, I'd still rather have Anthony Richardson running my offense. 536 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: If if in three weeks he's ready to go, and 537 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: God forbid, Daniel Jones gets hurt. I flipped back to 538 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: Richardson in a heartbeat. 539 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying, if Richardson's unavailable and you've got to 540 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: go out and sign whoever ques, is there not as 541 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: big a drop off in the cohesiveness as we think. 542 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: Probably, because again, you're gonna you're gonna then you're really 543 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: gonna transition more to the people around the quarterback. Although 544 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: it's gonna be harder to run the ball with Taylor 545 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: when everybody knows that's what you're gonna try to do 546 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: even more than you are now, because I'm still waiting 547 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: for He's leading the league in rushing and I'm still 548 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: waiting for his big game. I'm just still waiting for 549 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: him to break out and just go bonkers. But but yeah, 550 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 3: the guy to bring in, whoever it is, it'll be 551 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: as someone who can run, run the basics and not 552 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: get squirrely. And like a perfect example is uh second 553 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 3: half They it was a it was a twenty two 554 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: yard throat to Pierce on the left side that somehow 555 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 3: got there, somehow got there through three three defenders. And 556 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: Stiching was telling during the week that he was talking 557 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 3: to Jones and Jones said, you know, if if we 558 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: call this play, which that play and supposed to go 559 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: to the right side, and he said, I tell you, 560 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: if they give us this look on defense, I'm going 561 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: to whip around and come back to Pierce. And he 562 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: told Pierce, now listen, if I see that, be ready 563 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: because it's coming to you. And that's what he did, 564 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 3: and that that's where he's playing chess and maybe other 565 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: quarterbacks can't do that, but that just shows you that 566 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: this you know, you always hear about guys at first 567 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: and last out and doing the homework. And we've heard 568 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: countless story out that's Jones, It's Manning esque and Luck 569 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 3: ask of what of what they're doing? It was funny. 570 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: Zach Keifer was at the game. I was getting on 571 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: him for being a bandwagon jumper coming in in week 572 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 3: six when they're winning, but he asked Jones about you know, 573 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: what do you do? 574 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: You know? 575 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: Are you you know, are you one of those guys 576 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: that you know you're locked in once the season starts? 577 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: He said, if you have any hobbies? And he started 578 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 3: said no. He said, most guys don't have hobbies during 579 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: during the season because because you're working. And when you're 580 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: at the office and you're working, you go home and 581 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: you spend time at night. So that's what you want. 582 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: It's not, you know, glamorous and all this. Remember Manning's 583 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: the Manning Cave and all that. 584 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: There's so much truth. 585 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, hey, listen, Jack, I saw I mentioned this earlier, 586 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: and I you know, I could pull up the direct quotes, 587 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: but to paraphrase it, Tua down in Miami, you know, 588 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: after the Dolphins season has gone awry. He finally just 589 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: said the quiet part out loud. It was like, look, 590 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: we got guys that are not showing up for meetings. 591 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: We got guys that are late. It's got to be 592 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: across the board, et cetera. And this is the quarterback 593 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: calling out the roster for not being on time. And 594 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: maybe it's too late or too late in this case, 595 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: but the point being, that's the stuff you're talking about, right, 596 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: You need that example at the very front of guys 597 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: falling in line, and it appears as though with this 598 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: roster that's the case. Now, let me ask you this. 599 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: Yesterday there were a number of players that caught passes 600 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: from Daniel Jones. Adie Mitchell was a scratch at the 601 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: beginning of the year. Does is this a continuation of 602 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: the discipline or are we starting to see the beginning 603 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: of the end. 604 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 3: No, it's two things, not those two things. But it's 605 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: it's it's say, an extension of the discipline, if you 606 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: want to call it that. But it's also a reflection 607 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: that Alec Pierce was active. 608 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Again. Well, I understand, but I mean, you know, Mitchell's 609 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: been on the field and games were you know, Alec 610 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: Pierce hadn't been hurt all year, and there were games 611 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: where Alec. 612 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 3: Pierce no but but but but when when Pierce was 613 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: out there and Mitchell was out there. They really had 614 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: to find ways to get Mitchell on the field. One game, 615 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: he was on there for like nine snamps because Pierce, 616 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: Pierce Hardy comes off the field. He and Pittman are 617 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: out there all the time. So, uh no, I think 618 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: it was They're not They're not even remotely ready to 619 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: give up on Adi Mitchell. He's got so up much talent. 620 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: He's just but at some point, at some point though, it's. 621 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: Like, come on, yeah, got to see it at some point, right, 622 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: like he has that like we've been. 623 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: But you see just enough of it the way you 624 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: think you know, maybe, but it's it's the mess ups 625 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: that you just had. At some point, the mess ups 626 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: overcome or outweigh the talent. We're not there remotely. I've 627 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: talked to Reggie enough to to know that he believes 628 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: in Mitchell, but he also understands, you know, this is 629 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: the bottom line game. Uh So, so we were talking 630 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: in the press room, and I really wonder that barring injury, 631 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: although guys get injured, but if Pierce, Pittman and Down 632 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: stay healthy, I don't know when Mitchell gets back on 633 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: the field. I don't know when he's health I don't know. 634 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 3: And and also the problem is he doesn't play special 635 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: teams at all. He's never played a special team snap. 636 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: So to have a guy on your roster when when 637 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: roster spots are so precious on game day, and with 638 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: the idea that well, and let's think, I guess there, 639 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: this guy's not playing like your emergency, your backup quarterback. 640 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 3: There's two guys aren't going to play. So but but 641 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: I my interesting thing I'd like to know, and we 642 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 3: won't know except later on, is well he will will 643 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: Mitchell use this uh being a healthy scratch as motivation like, Hey, guys, 644 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 3: I belong on this team. 645 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: I deserve it? 646 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 3: Or does he does? He pale and right? And and 647 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: that's I think that's a very valid question. And I 648 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: don't think Reggie will allow the latter. He's too much 649 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: of a test master. I think he's a player's coach. 650 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 3: But he's also demanding. So that's an that's such an 651 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 3: interesting thing. 652 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, my point being, no matter you know, the 653 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: guy could be Usain Bolt, Carl Lewis and Edwin Moses 654 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: all wrapped into one with Jerry Rice's hands. But if 655 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: he is buried on the depth chart to the point 656 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: where he is a healthy scratch midway. You know, at 657 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: some point you got to say okay, then then when 658 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: is it going to come? You know what I mean? 659 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and we're down that we're way I think 660 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 3: we're way far away from that. But the whole thing 661 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 3: is it's a matter of trust. Good old Billy Joelson, 662 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 3: it's a matter of trust. When the coach and in 663 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: the quarterback, when do you get because they'll say the 664 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 3: right things. We trust him, he's working hard and all this. 665 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: But Peyton Manning said, you earn your catches on Sunday 666 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: by what you do in practice. It's a quarterback doesn't 667 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: trust you. Although this would be a case said you 668 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 3: don't trust what he does during a game. But if 669 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 3: a quarterback doesn't trust you, if the coach doesn't trust 670 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: it's a quarterback doesn't trust you. Then how do you 671 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 3: get back on the field barring injury? And don't I 672 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 3: don't see that path right now. But now, well, you 673 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 3: be inactive the rest the last eleven games. I would 674 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: say no, just because again, guys get hurt. But I 675 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 3: tell you they played those three receivers almost exclusively yesterday. 676 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: Extra Doodle was on the field for as many defensive 677 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 3: plays one as offensive plays one. So they go they're 678 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 3: using two tight ends a lot, and of course Tyler 679 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 3: Warren's sort of almost a receiver. 680 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: He's whatever they want to, you know what I mean. 681 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 3: He's fun to watch pairing the Dallas Clark, but he 682 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: does more than Dallas Clark. He just does. God love him. 683 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: Dallas Clark didn't block like this. This Tyler Warren is 684 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: a combination of Jack Doyle and Dallas Clark. You watch 685 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: some of those runs from Taylor and he does Jack 686 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 3: Doyle things in the line where he's smacking guys around 687 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 3: h and they're still I'm sure there's still more of 688 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: what they can do. But that when you talk to 689 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 3: talk to Reggie sometimes and he just says, you know, 690 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: he's taking away some some targets from my receivers, which 691 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: is a good thing, it really is. It should open 692 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 3: things up. But those receivers better understand that there may 693 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: be one or two targets a game that maybe they 694 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 3: used to get It goes to the young tight end. 695 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 4: Now. 696 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren is again he's one of the key cogs 697 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: that kind of makes everything float off of that. There 698 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: was another player, another play that I thought had a 699 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: Marquie moment that was very telling about what makes this 700 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: Colts team different. I'll get into that just a couple 701 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: of minutes. Mike Chapple, appreciate the time. As always, We'll 702 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: talk to you next week, all right. Joining us now 703 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line he 704 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: had yesterday his second interception in as many games for 705 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: the Colts. Makai Blackman, the cornerback for Indianapolis, Joining us 706 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: on the show, Mikyle, how are you? 707 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 4: I'm doing good? What you uh? 708 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: Listen? 709 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: Man? 710 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: Like the whole city like a cloud nine here, right? 711 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: And the fact that, let me ask you something and 712 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: be honest, if I would have told you at the 713 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: time that you found out you were going to be 714 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis cult that through six games you were going 715 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: to be the number one seed in the AFC, you 716 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: would have said what to me? 717 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 4: Said, I believe you. 718 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: That's why you're there, right, Yeah, I believe you. What 719 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: about it? I mean, aside from the obvious, which is, hey, 720 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: if you play there, you gotta believe I get that, right, 721 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: But what is it? What is it that has managed 722 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: to have everything come together like this? 723 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I would say, just in my short time here, 724 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: you could tell the coaches, the you know, supports to 725 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 4: have everybody is close, tight knit, so you know, even 726 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 4: pregame with us, just you know, going around shaking everybody 727 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 4: up in the team room. I would say that's a 728 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 4: big part of it. That's the first time I kind 729 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 4: of seen people, you know, interact that way. So I 730 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 4: would say just the group being tight knit. You know, 731 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: nobody want to let anyone down. Everybody trying to do 732 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 4: their jobs to the best of their ability, you know, 733 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 4: for the person that they playing with. So I would 734 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 4: say that's the main part. 735 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: When you talk about the locker room in general. I 736 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: want to go back to yesterday before the game and 737 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: just if you could, for us and for fans explain 738 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: just kind of the mindset of the bizarre nature of 739 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson getting hurt in the locker room, Mooney Ward 740 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: getting hurt on the field and having to kind of 741 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: process all of that and then go out and play. 742 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can't really script it any crazier 743 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 4: than that. That's something I've never seen before. But like 744 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 4: I said, we have a tight knit group. Everybody trusts everybody, 745 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 4: regardless the situation. Those two guys went down unfortunately, but 746 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 4: you know, we kind of got the guys you know 747 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 4: that we that were next in line. Everybody has to 748 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 4: step up and do their job. So I feel like 749 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 4: we did that yesterday we came out with the win. 750 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 4: So just hoping those guys get healthy as soon as possible. 751 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones said after the game. Macay Mkyy Blackman is 752 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: our guest on the job of house peel and poor 753 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: guest line. He said after the game that when he 754 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: was in Minnesota, the thing that most impressed him about 755 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: what he learned with the Vikings was the attention to 756 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: detail and just within that that franchise and you get 757 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: it you were there. Can can you elaborate on that 758 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: and and how you have been able to see that 759 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. 760 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 4: I just feel like even game before he went to minute, 761 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 4: so I feel like he was a guy, you know 762 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: that took that detailed process. But I felect the quarterback 763 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 4: boy over there in Minnesota they kind of handle it 764 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 4: similar to how djsu he is here, So I mean, 765 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 4: I would just say it goes hand in hand. DJ 766 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 4: is a guy who he wants to be prepared and 767 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 4: you know, being invested in for the team because he 768 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 4: is our leader in our quarterback. So I would say 769 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 4: that's just kind of the guy he is and wanting to, 770 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 4: you know, do everything the right way and have things 771 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 4: done on time and on schedule. 772 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: How challenging has it been as a unit for the 773 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: defensive backfield to not have continuity at the fault of nobody, 774 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean due to attrition and injury in general, right 775 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: in Jalen Jones being out, you know, the different injuries 776 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: you guys have had to deal with. Like, how challenging 777 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: is that? 778 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's what makes the NFL so special. 779 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 4: We signed a guy who's past did he wound up 780 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 4: playing a lot of snaps. I mean it's just you know, 781 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 4: just kind of getting everybody communicating. Like I said, we 782 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 4: still have a close knit group. We kind of brought 783 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 4: we bring the guys along. I mean, I'm gonna been 784 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 4: here six six weeks myself, so I would say even 785 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 4: me just getting you know, caught up. And I'm kind 786 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 4: of a guy who's looked at as an older guy 787 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 4: now and I've only been here six months of lives 788 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 4: coming in I'm trying to get throw put up as well. 789 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 4: Like I said, the next man up, regardless of somebody 790 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 4: goes down, gets hurt, is out. So I guess we 791 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 4: kind of all, you know, had that mindset of the team. 792 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, before we let you go, McCaw, I gotta 793 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: ask you this. You finished your college career at USC, right, 794 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 1: you started at Colorado, you finished at USC. Correct? Yes, okay, 795 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: So I'd like to know this which is more bizarre 796 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: for you to still think that USC now is a 797 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: Big Ten team or to think that the Big Ten 798 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: champions are going to be the Indiana fighting Hoosiers. 799 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 4: So also like you're trying to bait me into something, 800 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 4: but just bust the wolf. I don't really, I'm not 801 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 4: going to get into the you know, USC is my 802 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 4: alma mater. Y'all got a few teams that we play 803 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 4: against in Indiana and Notre Dame and stuff like that. 804 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, how about those Hoosers? Come on, 805 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: you give up some love for Indiana. 806 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 4: Come on another playing real good football right now? So 807 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 4: that's Congress you guys, I get someone Indiana who's your 808 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 4: fem now? I like that. I like that. 809 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: Listen. So two are the Colts playing great football? Obviously, right? 810 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: Now at five and one big pick yesterday that was 811 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: a huge part of the game. Certainly appreciate the time today. 812 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: Congratulations and we will get you on to work now 813 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: getting ready for the Chargers. 814 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, have a good day, all right, Macai 815 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: Blackman joining us on the Java House Peel and poor 816 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: guest line