1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Tony Cats today. 3 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: Government shut down. 4 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: And I know what you're saying, Tony, you don't look 5 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: panicked and you should be panicked. No, no, no, I 6 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 3: have no I have no intention of any level of 7 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: panic over but that people aren't gonna get paid from 8 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: the military. Well, nothing I can do about it. I 9 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: elected these people. Turns out the vast majority of them 10 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: don't know how to do their job, don't know what 11 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: else they could do. 12 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 2: I know my Rep voted for the Continuing Resolution no weight, 13 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: no weight. Ooh ooh, I don't think my Rep. Did 14 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: I take that back? 15 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: Well, I guess we have the opportunity to vote her 16 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: out then, don't we. But it did pass the House, 17 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: and now it's with the Senate, and now I've got 18 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: Senate Democrats are saying, we're absolutely not going to vote 19 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: for this. Oh, we can't vote for this. My gosh, 20 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: we can't vote for this. It doesn't provide funding for 21 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: legal immigrants. This has been an incredible story, this story 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: about funding for illegals and where it comes from, how 23 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: this indeed works, how this has worked its way back 24 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: into the conversation of something that was removed, and that 25 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: you have Speaker Johnson discussing all all the things that 26 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: are in this and not in this. 27 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: As he stated in the press or today. 28 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: There is nothing new in this legislation. There's no poison pill, 29 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: there's no partisan tricks, there's no gimmicks whatsoever. The only 30 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: difference today is the man who is sitting in the 31 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 4: Oval Office. Rather than work with President Trump and Republicans 32 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: to get this job done, as our party has done 33 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 4: repeatedly in the same situation over the years, Democrats want 34 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: to play political games with the lives and the livelihoods 35 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: of Americans. The simple truth is Democrats in Congress have 36 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: dragged our country into another reckless shutdown to satisfy their 37 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: far left base. 38 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: That is the truth. 39 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: Whether or not the government remains open or reopens is 40 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: entirely up to them. 41 00:02:49,720 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: Correct, accurate, absolutely accurate. Trump and Johnson and the Senate 42 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: Majority Leader. 43 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: Thoon, You're more than welcome to. 44 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: You mean, the only option they have is to do 45 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: what it is the Democrats want. 46 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: I don't think you understand what's happening here. Let me 47 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: try and help. 48 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: First of all, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to 49 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: be with you. This isn't the first time today you're 50 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: gonna hear me say this. And I want to make 51 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: sure we all understand each other and we're all speaking 52 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: on the same wavelength. I want to make sure we're 53 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: all on the same page. Winning means never having to 54 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: say you're sorry. I don't give a good holy damn 55 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: in hell, what it is Chuck Schumer wants, or what 56 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: it is any Senate Democrat wants. Here's the deal. Vote 57 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: for it or don't. But if you don't vote board, 58 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: it's all on you. Now, excuse me while I enjoy 59 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: my cigar. 60 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: Got to add a little bit of fire to that. 61 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: It seems not just in my cigar, but in my words. 62 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 3: You think the argument that the Republicans control of the House, 63 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: the Senate, and the Executive means they have to give 64 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: in to the Democrats. It means, hey, Democrats, know your 65 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: place in the damn line. I'm not interested in kindness 66 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: right now. I'm interested in these people actually doing the job. 67 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: I'm interested in people being normal. What I wouldn't give 68 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: Why is it so hard for everybody to just be normal? 69 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: Illegal immigrants don't get any healthcare, they don't get any 70 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: access to healthcare. They don't get a position on healthcare 71 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: because we have to stop incentivizing being here illegally. 72 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: And this is part of the process. Democrats, you lost. 73 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: You lost because you were completely disconnected from where the 74 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: American voter is. 75 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: You don't have any e idea where they are. 76 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: You're running right now, study after study after study to 77 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: figure out how you possibly connect with the American voter, 78 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: and you don't have it because millions of people watch 79 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: the memorial for Charlie Kirk and you can't get five 80 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: people to sit in a room with you. You think 81 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: we have to worry about what you say and negotiate 82 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 3: with you, sit down. 83 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: You don't count, you don't matter. 84 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 3: You want to be a fly in the ointment, knocked 85 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 3: yourself out. 86 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 2: You want to be the thing that keeps from a 87 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: level of opportunity and keeping things funded. You go right ahead, 88 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 2: but it's on you. 89 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: You make your political decisions as you do, but thinking 90 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: that somehow you have some strength, some conviction, some power 91 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: that I have to pay attention to. 92 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 2: What are we all insane? 93 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 3: Are we all just completely and totally insane. We don't 94 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: owe anything to you, Chuck Schumer. We don't owe anything 95 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: to you Democrats. 96 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: We don't owe anything to you trolls. 97 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: I can sit here and as clear as day say, dear. 98 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Lord, this is embarrassing. 99 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: It is embarrassing that these people can't get a pass 100 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: a budget. And you understand that this Continuing Resolution is 101 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: only a lead up to the Continuing Resolution that takes 102 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: place in November. You think these people are gonna have 103 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: a budget in November, You really think so. 104 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: I'd love to see it. 105 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: See, there are certain realities, of course, and the reality 106 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: is is that Democrats have seats, and you need sixty 107 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: votes in the Senate, and therefore you may have to 108 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: deal with these people in the Senate. 109 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: You could go nuclear like Harry. 110 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: Reid taught you to and do fifty votes and put 111 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: an end to this, or maybe you don't, because isn't 112 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: it better for Chuck Schuman to take every hit? And 113 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: of course the rect cognition that he's taking the hits 114 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 3: because he's trying to show how tough he is, not 115 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: to you and me, not to Republicans, but to liberals, 116 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: trying to show how tough he is to liberals so 117 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: they will see, man, he's really tough. So he doesn't 118 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: get shellacked by Alexandria Cassio Cortez once she decides to. 119 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Run against him for Senate in New York. Because that's happening, 120 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: that's coming. Of course, it is. Everybody knows that it is. 121 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: I would much rather if these people were normal, and 122 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: much rather that we had some level of focus. 123 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: But we don't. We have got. 124 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: Ridiculousness, and we have gotten nonsense. We have got pablem 125 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: and we have tantrums. It's no way to run a country. 126 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: It's valueless. 127 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: But it is where we are. 128 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: Okay, it's where we are. 129 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: As long as it's where we are, then I'm not 130 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: interested in hearing the Democrats at all. Their argument is 131 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: you have to negotiate with us and do what we say. 132 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: You can't say no, you have to do what we say. 133 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: That's not a negotiation. And because this is where we're at, 134 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: I now go back to where I started. The Democratic 135 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: Party can sit down. Who gives a good holy damn 136 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: what you think about anything. I'm not interested in your 137 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: thoughts or in your philosophies. 138 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: You lost. Isn't this what Barack Obama taught us? I 139 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: have a phone and I have a pen. 140 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: Isn't that what the man said, here we are you 141 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: want tough love. 142 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: You're all into tough love. 143 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: Well, the Republicans have to deal with with Chuck Sherman. 144 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: Democrats know they don't. 145 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: Every day this goes on on Chuck Schumer, and it's 146 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: on the Democrats. Every day a service member doesn't get paid. 147 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: Every day someplace isn't open, where a family's on vacation 148 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: spending their hard earned money, and now they can't see it. 149 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: Every day we are get weakened in the eyes of 150 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: the world. If you want to argue with that is 151 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: even happening. 152 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: If you want to argue that, that's on the Democrats 153 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: every day until they finally cave, until they finally give in, 154 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: until they finally give up, until they finally recognize that 155 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: they haven't done anything and they can't do anything because 156 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: they are so completely detached from where the American people are. 157 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: I would rather we had a budget. I would rather 158 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: we were normal. I would rather that we didn't. 159 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: Have anyone anywhere at any time saying that we should 160 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: fund illegal immigrants. 161 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: Put are Democrats demanding health care for illegal aliens. 162 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: That's where I Democrat are demanding healthcare for everybody? Can 163 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: I is there any question that I'm right. 164 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: Don't care about trolls, don't care about madness, don't care 165 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: about screaming and yelling. 166 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 2: What I would like is. 167 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: A budget that says we take care of the American 168 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: citizen first, and we pay absolutely no mind whatsoever to 169 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: the illegal immigrant. We want them gone, We want that 170 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: pram in our lives over, because that seems to be 171 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: the at least where the Democrats are the sticking point, 172 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: Schumer saying Republicans are plunging America into a shutdown, rejecting 173 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: bipartisan talks, pushing a partisan bill, and risking America's health care. 174 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: Worst of all, this is a continuing. 175 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: Resolution to get to a continuing resolution in November. This 176 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: is not plunging the country into anything and rejecting this. 177 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: And this should have been okay, let's do this to 178 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: get to that. Let's do this, and let's negotiate on that. 179 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: Don't you think you could have earned a little bit 180 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: of goodwill. We're going to keep the country going. But 181 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: here are our points, and Republicans need to take heed. 182 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: And this is what America is saying to you. Because 183 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: you have an argument you can make on the economy, 184 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: You have an argument that you can always make on healthcare. Remember, 185 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: the worst, the most ridiculous and embarrassing thing Republicans may 186 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: have ever done, may have ever done, is scream for 187 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: years that Obamacare is terrible, and then when given the 188 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: opportunity to replace Obamacare, they basically said, and I quote, 189 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: they had no idea. 190 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: You put nothing forward. 191 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I would simply put forward getting rid of Obamacare. 192 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,119 Speaker 3: I have no interest in any government sponsored healthcare whatsoever. 193 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: I also want government buying a part of Intel. I 194 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: also want government fixing prices for drugs. There's a lot 195 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: of things that I don't want. Maybe I'm on an 196 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: island all by myself. Maybe it turns out I got 197 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: a lot of friends on the island, you see to 198 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: the chat room. It's not the same with immigration reform. 199 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no, because with Trump, we actually 200 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: saw it happened. 201 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: We saw a real difference. 202 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: But I could argue you could argue a difference between 203 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: Trump and Republicans. You could argue that there but on spending, 204 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Republicans get control and where's the spending cuts. 205 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: Democrats spend and Republicans spend less that I'm supposed to 206 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: say whoo, hell no, gosh no, but we're supposed to 207 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: somehow bend over backwards for Chuck Schumer and this Democratic 208 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: Party who wants people who are not in the country 209 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: legally to get healthcare. No, we have to cut off 210 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: any type of incentive whatsoever, and if Democrats don't like it, 211 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: screw off. We're not interested on this subject. We are 212 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: not interested in any level of debate. We're interested in 213 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 3: you losing, and you losing in unbelievable measure. We want 214 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: you to cry if that's what it takes for you 215 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: to get the point. 216 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: We're not going to give in on this. 217 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: Now pass the damn bill so people can get paid, 218 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: and let's talk about a budget that makes sense. Of course, 219 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: you have representatives, they should be. 220 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: Able to voice their opinion. But sometimes you lose. 221 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: And what the Democrats are doing here is their version 222 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: of running away from Texas to Illinois because they don't 223 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: want to vote on the fact that redistricting is a 224 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: political process and it's happening. This budget's going to happen, 225 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: or no one's getting paid, and it'll all be on you, Democrats. 226 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: You lost elections have consequences, and that is that I'm 227 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. 228 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today