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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a question of survival.

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Speaker 3: That's why Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, and Jacob Fray,

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Speaker 3: the mayor of Minneapolis, are kind of singing a different tune.

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Speaker 3: Hey uh, instead of calling ice immigrations and customs offorcement.

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Speaker 2: Did I call Gestapo? Did I say Gestapo?

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Speaker 3: I meant to say, hey, Stoppo, come here and have

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Speaker 3: some ice cream.

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Speaker 2: You crazy? And i'lcoheads are so great. I'd Guestapo like

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Speaker 2: I would ever call them.

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Speaker 3: Did I call them Nazis? I did not see that coming.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe someone said I called of Nazis.

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. Did I say we should make a crowd

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Speaker 2: and surround them?

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Speaker 3: No, no, No, that was vaccine Waters talking about Trump's cabinet.

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Speaker 3: Please can we focus Tony Katz Tony kats today.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Smoking of Master Blend's three from all of us, not

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Speaker 3: three three got Tony eight three three four six eight

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Speaker 3: Facebook Tony Katz, radio all the good places there.

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Speaker 2: Are they're speaking a whole different. Language. NOW i think

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Speaker 2: very possibly that the statements From President trump On True

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Speaker 2: social about The Insurrection act may have them a bit

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Speaker 2: concerned that maybe the conversations and the comments about CALLING

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Speaker 2: ice Agents nazis and supporting those who are ATTACKING ice

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Speaker 2: agents might be.

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Speaker 3: Seen hold, on, wait what is the. Term it's from The.

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Speaker 3: Latin uh, uh that's it. Insurrectiony and maybe they don't

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Speaker 3: want to be associated with, that so they're.

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Speaker 2: Putting out all new. Statements you've got a whole new

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Speaker 2: tone of voice now if we, remember so we go

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Speaker 2: back into the wayback. Machine, here this right here.

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Speaker 3: Was Tim walls just about.

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Speaker 2: A month or so.

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Speaker 4: Ago no, Less, WELL i said this. Yesterday we've never

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Speaker 4: been at war with our federal. GOVERNMENT i think in

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Speaker 4: this case that The National guard is their main. Mission

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Speaker 4: they have a dual.

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Speaker 3: Mission there's that is the governor Of minnesota saying That

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Speaker 3: minnesota is at war with.

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Speaker 2: The federal.

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Speaker 3: Government, now if you say to, Me, tony that's not

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Speaker 3: what he. Said, okay let's hear it.

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Speaker 2: Again, WELL i said this.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday we've never been at war with our federal. Government

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Speaker 4: are we.

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Speaker 2: At war with our federal. Government What, Tody he didn't

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Speaker 2: say he was at war with the federal. Government That

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Speaker 2: i'll do it.

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Speaker 3: AGAIN i will fight through the softest nonsense and get

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Speaker 3: to the truth.

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Speaker 2: Happily, WELL i said this.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday we've never been at war with our federal.

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Speaker 3: Government so he's saying that we're at war with our federal.

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Speaker 3: Government he is making that. Argument people can, say, well

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Speaker 3: that's not what he.

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Speaker 2: Said but we have a word for those. PEOPLE i

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Speaker 2: just can't use it on.

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Speaker 3: Radio there are, standards you, know and the people who

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Speaker 3: make that argument they don't measure up to the. Standard

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Speaker 3: so that was. Him now here's the same. Guy here

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Speaker 3: Is Tim walls right now in gauged in a new,

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Speaker 3: conversation and that conversation is a. Post i'm making a

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Speaker 3: direct appeal to the. President let's turn the temperature. Down

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Speaker 3: stop this campaign of. Retribution this is not who we,

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Speaker 3: are Writes Tim, walls and an appeal To MINNESOTAN'S i

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Speaker 3: know this is. Scary we can we must speak out, loudly,

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Speaker 3: urgently but also also. Peacefully we cannot fan the flams

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Speaker 3: of the flames of. Chaos we cannot fan the flames of.

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Speaker 3: Chaos that's what he, wants.

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Speaker 2: And he signed.

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Speaker 3: That he put his signature to. That can we discuss

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Speaker 3: for a, minute what a gross. Statement this, is how

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Speaker 3: completely disconnected this is from.

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Speaker 2: Trying to turn down the.

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Speaker 3: Temperature just a little bit of a, breakdown really, quick

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Speaker 3: let's turn down the. Temperature out this campaign of. Retribution

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Speaker 3: this is.

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Speaker 2: Not who we. Are what retribution are you talking? About

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Speaker 2: what campaign of?

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Speaker 3: Retribution ice doing its job like it did in The obama. Days,

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Speaker 3: oh lots of people now posting, videos lots of people

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Speaker 3: posting videos about How ice was engaged in deportations AND

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Speaker 3: cnn went on ride alongs and everybody thought it was.

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Speaker 2: Great oh my, gosh look at.

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Speaker 3: Me people are getting off the. Streets and now all

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Speaker 3: of a, sudden it's a. Problem oh and the left

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Speaker 3: wants to scream and yell about.

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Speaker 2: This oh, no it's not the. Same it's all. Different

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Speaker 2: it's because the tactics of the. Right it's the tactics Of.

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Speaker 2: Ice it's because of the tactics of the. Left the

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Speaker 3: Chaos if you want to argue THAT i should utilize different,

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Speaker 3: tactics that would be a policy conversation and.

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Speaker 2: One THAT i am well more than willing to.

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Speaker 3: Have but that isn't the conversation that's being had at.

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Speaker 3: All the argument from the left IS i shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: able to do this. Work you called them The, gestapo

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Speaker 3: you called Them. Nazis we get. It you, disagree but

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Speaker 3: you don't disagree on. Policy you disagree because you think

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Speaker 3: a legal immigrant should be allowed to stay in the.

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Speaker 2: Country, now let's.

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Speaker 3: Assume for just the sakeless conversation that there are some

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Speaker 2: Don't that's not your, party.

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Speaker 3: Kitten your party is absolutely the party of illegal. Immigrants

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Speaker 3: your party is the party of a legal. Immigration your

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Speaker 3: party is the party of the violating of the, law

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Speaker 3: and your party is the party of looking the other

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Speaker 3: way when the law is. Violated it IS i just

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Speaker 3: made a factual, statement AND i can prove this factual

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Speaker 3: statement while the, mayor while the governor Of minnesota is

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Speaker 3: saying that.

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Speaker 2: This right here as is posted a GUY i don't.

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Speaker 2: Know he Is Brad Tabke, tabke and he is A

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Speaker 2: democrat at A. Minnesota he's a.

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Speaker 3: Representative he's posting real time locations OF ice. Agents, now

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Speaker 3: the only reason you're posting real time locations OF ice

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Speaker 3: agents is because you WANT ice to fail and you

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Speaker 3: want illegal immigrants to be able to. Escape, thus my

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Speaker 3: argument holds as a matter of, fact the left has

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Speaker 3: no response to my. Argument the left is proactively working

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Speaker 3: to HARM ice and to harm immigrations and customs enforcement,

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Speaker 3: agents to kill immigrations and customs enforcement, agents whether that's

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Speaker 3: by shooting at the medalas or trying to run over

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Speaker 3: with their, cars which has happened in a series of.

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Speaker 3: Places they are the ones who are impeding and leading

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Speaker 3: to this.

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Speaker 2: Violence the tactic is not the.

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Speaker 3: Issue the issue is the leftist that is utilizing a different.

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Speaker 3: TACTIC ice is utilizing the laws to remove illegal, immigrants

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Speaker 3: and the left is trying to GET ice agents.

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Speaker 2: Killed that's the.

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Speaker 3: Difference and anybody who wants to debate it eight three

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Speaker 2: Nine On twitter x put a comment on the live

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Speaker 2: stream and, YouTube however you want to do. It there's a.

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Speaker 2: Difference go back to the statement From Tim.

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Speaker 3: Walls let's continue with this on a. Second the statement,

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Speaker 3: read let's turn down the. Temperature let's turn the temperature,

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Speaker 3: down stop this campaign of retribution this is not who we.

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Speaker 2: Are what?

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Speaker 3: Retribution, AGAIN i, ask there's no. Retribution there's only the

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Speaker 3: law being, applied and there is the left trying to stop.

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Speaker 2: That law from being applied and engaged in full on.

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Speaker 3: Violence the appeal To minosotan's, READS i know this is,

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Speaker 3: scary but we. Can we must speak out, loudly, urgently

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Speaker 3: but also. Peacefully we cannot fan the flames of. Chaos

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Speaker 3: that's what he.

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Speaker 2: Wants. Now if you want a.

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Speaker 3: Guy to tone down the, rhetoric do you also call

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Speaker 3: him a chaos. Agent, Hey i'd like to borrow fifty.

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Speaker 2: Dollars from, you you fat. Loser who does? That who does?

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Speaker 2: That the answer Is Tim.

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Speaker 3: Walls while he pretends to be a nice, guy he

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Speaker 3: wants the. Chaos he wants ice agents shot.

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Speaker 2: At, well, Yeah. Tony see now.

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Speaker 3: That gives him more reason and more ammunition to do

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Speaker 3: what he's. Doing he's the president of The United, states

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Speaker 3: and he has the law on his. Side and he

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Speaker 3: started doing this before anybody was.

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Speaker 2: Shooting CAN i help?

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Speaker 3: You before people were getting run over with their cars

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Speaker 2: So he doesn't need any of, this that's the. Point

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Speaker 3: Point what an unbelievably ignorant thing For Tim walls to say.

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Speaker 2: Here and then you get the, Mayor Jacob, Fray.

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Speaker 3: Jacob, fray who is not enjoying all of the press

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Speaker 3: conferences and the things that his police are.

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Speaker 2: Saying he's calling for. Peace this is the, Quote i'm

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Speaker 3: Peace he's, like he's, like what was, high Mister burns

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Speaker 3: in That simpsons EPISODE.

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Speaker 2: I bring you? PEACE i bring you? Love what was that?

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Speaker 2: Episode do you remember That brodusier?

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Speaker 5: through the woods AND i bring you.

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Speaker 3: Peace someone's got to find THAT i could use that.

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Speaker 3: Clip i'm calling for. Peace everybody has a role in

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Speaker 3: achieving that, piece and we're going to try and do

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Speaker 3: everything we can to keep. It the same guy who

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Speaker 3: days earlier Said ice get the f out Of. Minneapolis

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Speaker 3: what's with the change of?

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Speaker 2: Tone what's with the?

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Speaker 3: Change is it indeed the threat of The Insurrection act

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Speaker 3: where these politicos realize that if.

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Speaker 2: They're, seen if they are seen ginning up the, crowd

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Speaker 3: Guilty maybe maybe that's what it, is but the message

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Speaker 3: hasn't gotten. Everywhere this Is Minnesota State Senator Aisha gomez

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Speaker 3: ON MS. Now, NOW i haven't heard this, yet but

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Speaker 3: since it's on cable, NEWS i think it's gonna be all.

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Speaker 6: Case What i'm telling my constituents to do is to

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Speaker 6: be with each. Other we are out, here we're welcoming

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Speaker 6: kids to, School we're trying to help each other get

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Speaker 6: to work and get food and get the basics of life.

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Speaker 6: Done and those of us who are not at risk from,

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Speaker 6: this you, know racist and attack on our, community we

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Speaker 6: have to be out in the streets and keeping an

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Speaker 6: eye on each other and making noise when we see

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Speaker 6: an abduction taking, place when we see a violation of civil,

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Speaker 6: liberties which at this point is happening like dozens of,

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Speaker 6: times if not hundreds of times a, Day american citizens

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Speaker 6: civil liberties are being. Violated and every time that we see,

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Speaker 6: that we're telling, people make, noise make a, crowd take

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Speaker 6: out your, phone document.

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Speaker 3: Crowd she's really Quoting Maxine. Waters when you say make a,

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Speaker 3: crowd what do you what do you mean, representative state.

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Speaker 3: Representative what do you mean make a? Crowd, right you're

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Speaker 3: quoting the governor about creating videos and recording everybody make a.

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Speaker 3: Crowd first of, all these aren't civil rights. Violations you're talking.

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Speaker 3: About people are in the country. ILLEGALLY i would argue

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Speaker 3: against that in every way speaking of civil rights. Violations

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Speaker 3: interesting and something that will upset the. Left the shooting

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Speaker 3: will not be investigated by THE doj.

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Speaker 2: For a civil rights. Violation and one of the things.

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Speaker 3: That was discussed is, that, well this is usually, done

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Speaker 3: and it made me, say why is it usually? DONE

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Speaker 3: i don't argue that there can't be civil rights. Violations

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Speaker 3: anytime there's a, shooting you have to check it for

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Speaker 3: a civil rights. Violation that would seem to me that

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Speaker 3: there are people in a politicized justice department who wanted

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Speaker 3: a civil rights violation so they could, say look what

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Speaker 3: we're doing to protect civil.

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Speaker 2: Rights Renee good blocked traffic. Knowingly Renee good refused to

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Speaker 2: listen to a lawful. Order. Knowingly Renee good backed up

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Speaker 2: and did not stop her.

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Speaker 3: Vehicle and if it wasn't for that patch of ice

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Speaker 3: that made her skid out a little, bit she would

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Speaker 3: have driven straight as opposed to starting to turn and

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Speaker 3: then turning her wheel to the, right still hitting a

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Speaker 3: law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Officer people could deny it all they, want but it

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Speaker 2: is what it. Is what it, is what it, Is

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Speaker 2: it's what.

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Speaker 3: Happened there were multiple Moments Renee good could have saved

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Speaker 3: her own life and stop this from.

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Speaker 2: Happening she chose not.

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Speaker 3: To AND i don't mind an investigation into the shooting

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Speaker 3: which is happening from THE, fbi just no civil rights,

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Speaker 3: one because this violation of the civil rights stuff is

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Speaker 3: just what people scream when they want to gin up

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Speaker 3: more protest and more. Violence some people did not get

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Speaker 3: the message from the governor and the, mayor and don't

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Speaker 3: expect these violent actions AGAINST ice to end anytime.

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Speaker 2: Soon I'm Tony. Katz this Is Tony katz. Today