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Speaker 1: are touchy about these things, all options are on the table.

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Speaker 2: As far as President Trump and boots on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why the base, which they have already they.

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Speaker 2: Look at his track record of pursuing peace through strength,

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Speaker 2: America first outcomes and what he's simply saying, and he's

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Speaker 2: exactly true. And I've said from this podium.

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Speaker 1: Too, We're not going to foreclose any option.

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Speaker 2: You can't fight and win a war if you tell

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Speaker 2: you are not willing to do, to include boots on

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Speaker 2: the ground. Our adversary right now thinks there are fifteen

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Speaker 2: But if anybody has internalized the lessons of Iraq and

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Speaker 1: All warfare is based on deception. It's Sun Sue people,

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Speaker 1: lying to the American people. But you don't let loose

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Speaker 1: what your plans are. By the way, the full quote

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Speaker 1: based on deception. On deception. Hence, when we are able

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Speaker 1: he didn't. And I don't understand how people are surprised

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Speaker 1: by this. But if we had heard that the Royal

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Speaker 1: where the hell are they? Why isn't that happening. So

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Speaker 1: the idea of get off your butt, set's your oil,

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Speaker 1: go do something about it. I believe it's accurate. Now

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Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting statement. You'll have to start

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Speaker 1: learning how to fight for yourself. The USA won't be

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Speaker 1: for us. There is one way to take this, and

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Speaker 1: that is did President Trump just change foreign policy and

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Speaker 1: our dealings with Great Britain and ally did we just

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Speaker 1: that's one way you can take it. The other way is, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to show up for us, you know what,

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Speaker 1: screw you, screw your mom. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 1: your sister's fat like it's that and you say to me,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean they weren't there for you? This

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Speaker 1: brings us to a story about France, and you realize

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Speaker 1: that he's utilizing the UK as his focus, but it

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Speaker 1: isn't the whole story. France denied Israel in the US

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Speaker 1: country of France wouldn't let planes headed to Israel loaded

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Speaker 1: has been very unhelpful with respect to the butcher of Iran,

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Speaker 1: who has been successfully eliminated. The USA will remember, damn

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Speaker 1: mother straight. I believe I left out a word there.

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Speaker 1: I believe I left out a word. Can we check

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Speaker 1: with the judges? I did I left out a word?

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Speaker 1: Damn straight? You don't let us fly over your airspace?

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Speaker 1: You NATO nation. I don't want to be friendly. I

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Speaker 1: think the next time you see Emmanuel Macron mister press

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Speaker 1: and then he tries to stick out his hand, you

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Speaker 1: his mother. You don't let us fly over, are you?

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Speaker 1: If you add to your skulls that requires a repercussion

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Speaker 1: that reminds France who they are in the game. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to agree with us. I do not require this.

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Speaker 1: not surprising that they did not jump to assist because

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to be seen that way. They need

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Speaker 1: to recognize this, understand this. All politics are local, as

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Speaker 1: we've stated, and that's real. You don't let Americans fly

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Speaker 1: over your airspace. No, no, no, it's you. That is

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Speaker 1: not how a friend treats a friend. And if you

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Speaker 1: France know that that simply won't be tolerated. That's not acceptable.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's better if we take out the Ayatolla.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's better if we end this regime. Why

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Speaker 1: would you get in the way are you afraid of

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Speaker 1: all the ISLAMI mischieve imported it into the country because

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Speaker 1: your mass migration nonsense is nonsense and destroying French culture

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Speaker 1: too bad. Maybe if you steed up to them, you

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Speaker 1: would help us stand up to the terrorist, the Ayatola

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Speaker 1: and this disgusting regime, all of whom in it have

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Speaker 1: they don't, Americans die, and of course Europeans die, and

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Speaker 1: we don't want this anymore. President Trump should not let

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Speaker 1: this go. You want to slap around the UK, you can,

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Speaker 1: but France deserves every bit of derision and they should

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Speaker 1: feel the heat because that's unacceptable. That's not going to work.

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Speaker 1: That is not what a friend does. You gave us

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Speaker 1: When we need to fly over to make sure American

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Speaker 1: lives are safe, you say, right this way. My friends

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Speaker 1: think that we don't know how this is going to end.

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Speaker 1: And Pete Hegseeth is of course right. Fifteen different possibilities

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's one hundred and fifty possibilities, and

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Speaker 1: my faith is with them, and I want to see

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Speaker 1: this regime gone nations that made it more difficult, not

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Speaker 1: that didn't necessarily cooperate, but got in the way. That

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Speaker 1: should be remembered, and it should be remembered forever. This

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Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today.