1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there with 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: a very special in studio guests. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: One of our friends is the CEO of HVAF Indiana 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: helping veterans and families. Emmy Hildebrand is here him. Emily, Emmy, 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: how are you? 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you? 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: Last time I saw you, I was competing in the 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Hogies and Hops eating contests at their restaurant where the 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: proceeds were benefiting your organization. 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: And you you won. 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: I won that thing. 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 3: Sight to see for sure, that's. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: A very polite way of seeing. 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: Throw up while I watched you gorge yourself with these 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Philly cheese steaks from Hogies and Hopps. 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Emmy and I were talking during the commercial break because 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: that eating contest was local media people, and you had 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: really good looking TV folks right like and Mo Yan 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: of Wish TV, Ryan Morris of the Weather Guy. Yeah, 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: really in shape, good looking people. And then I walked 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: through the front doors and you could hear a record scratch. 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: They knew, they knew who was winning that contest. 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: They were just intimidated, that's all. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: They looked at me and said, oh, you must be 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: the favorite, which is fancy. Talk for the fat guys here, right, 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: come on. But we raised a lot of money, didn't we. 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 4: It was a record year, Christina and Hokus so generous, 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 4: But yes, this was the most ever and the celebrity 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 4: contest was just a fun addition to the real competition 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: where they ate twice as much in half the time. 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Now, the reason we invited you up here today, Emmy 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: was I can't believe it's been a year since those 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: devastating fires that took place that displaced a lot of 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: your veterans. 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: It has been just about a year. On Sunday, it 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: will mark a full twelve months since we experienced a 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: fire at our Manchester Apartments, which is our large transitional 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: housing facility where forty eight veterans were staying during the fire. 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Now, before we move into what this past year has 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: been like, reset what HVAF is and what you guys do. 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: HVAF of Indiana Helping Veterans and Families is the largest 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: organization in Indiana dedicated to serving veterans facing homelessness. So 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: every year we serve between thirteen and fourteen hundred veterans 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: who need housing assistants, employment services, and basic needs support 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: through our food and clothing pantries. We're really excited. This 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: year we announced a twenty six percent reduction in veteran 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: homelessness here in Indianapolis. 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: And that's good. That's what. 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: Do you attribute that to? 51 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: Hard work and hustle. 52 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: We have an amazing team at HVAF and we are 53 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: really relentlessly focused on ending veteran homelessness here in our city. 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: Over the last ten years, there's been a seventy percent reduction, 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: so that's amazing. We're effectively using our resources to move 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: veterans from streets to permanent housing as quickly as possible. 57 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: And not only are you housing these folks, but your 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: goal is to get these veterans jobs to the point 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: where they can live on their own. 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and the majority of the veterans that are enrolled 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: in HBAF programs leave without further support. So they are 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: maintaining their own housing, they have jobs, they're enrolled in 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: appropriate health care, and they're stable after they have received 64 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 4: services from us. What is transitional housing, it's temporary housing. 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: So the Department of Veterans Affairs funds a program that 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: they call the Grant and per Diem program. So veterans 67 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: are they have to be literally homeless to be eligible 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: for services, and they can stay in one of our 69 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: facilities for up to two years, but the average day 70 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: is about six to nine months, and the whole goal 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: is to quickly address any barriers to permanent housing and 72 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: get them moved out. 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm assuming health care and mental health is a part 74 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: of this sort of rehabilitation. 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: It's a huge part of it. 76 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: About eighty percent of the veterans we serve report a 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: mental health or substance use diagnosis. So we have an 78 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: on staff therapist and a mental health team that works 79 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: really hard to make sure that veterans are stable and 80 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: they're able to be successful once they leave our transitional housing. 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: Wow. 82 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: Immy Hildebrand is our guest, the CEO of HVATH Indiana. 83 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: So let's go back about a year. Sunday will be 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: a year this fire that went through the housing area. 85 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: What did that do to you guys? 86 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: Well, the immediate thing, obviously, we had forty eight veterans 87 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: living there and the building was nearly completely destroyed. If 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: you look at Manchester Apartments, it's two long corridors with 89 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: a courtyard in the middle, and I think, thank goodness, 90 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: we have a courtyard because that spared the entire building 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: from burning, but one of the corridors was nearly destroyed. 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 4: The other one was soaked by the thousands of gallons 93 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 4: of water that poured down to save it. So immediately 94 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 4: we had to rehouse forty eight veterans and be able 95 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: to provide supporter services because they were already struggling when 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: they came to us, and then they just experienced this 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: new trauma on top of everything they've been through. So 98 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: our staff is amazing. They really stepped it up, and 99 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: we were providing mental health care every day at temporary 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: hotels around the city to make sure that those forty 101 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 4: eight veterans were cared for. So in the last twelve months, 102 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 4: we've gone from standing in the middle of Pennsylvania Street 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: wondering how we would ever recover from this tragedy, to 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 4: really starting reconstruction as soon as possible. In July, we 105 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: reopened half of the building and it's already full. So 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 4: we've got twenty three veterans ending their homelessness there right now, 107 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: and we are working really hard on the rest of 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: the building, which should be complete by August of twenty 109 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: twenty six. 110 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: Two things do you know what caused the fire and 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: what is the age range of people that are utilizing 112 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 2: your surface. 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: So the fire was an electrical fire, and it started 114 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 4: in the attic of the building, so it was above 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: our sprinkler system, which is how it was able to 116 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: burn so quickly out of control. Once it got up 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 4: into the attic, it just spread the whole length of 118 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: the building and kind of burned out of control. In 119 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: terms of ages, we serve veterans from age you know, 120 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 4: twenty two is probably about our youngest all. 121 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 3: The way to eighty five. 122 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: Plus the majority of the veterans we serve are over 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: the age of fifty about sixty percent, but we're seeing 124 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: many more younger veterans, so like global we're on terror 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: veterans and also a huge increase in women veterans in 126 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: the last few years. 127 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: So fast forward one year later, how are things Like 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: is everything open now? Like, are you guys just a 129 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: well oiled machine? Like how long did it take for 130 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: you guys to get your legs underneath of you? 131 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: I think that's really the most incredible part is that 132 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: we dealt with this incredible tragedy in chaotic year, but 133 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: we also stayed really focused on our mission, which is 134 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 4: ending veteran homelessness. So we talked about the reduction already, 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: but all that happened simultaneously. Every day we do life 136 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: changing homelessness ending work, and we still did that every 137 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 4: day of this last twelve months, but we also have 138 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: been undergoing a massive construction. 139 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: So the building is half open. 140 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: It will be fully open in August of twenty twenty six, 141 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: and when we reopen. The night of the fire, we 142 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: had fifty one units. When we reopen, we'll have sixty five, 143 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: so done a little redesign and removing our food and 144 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: clothing pantries over there, and we'll have some on site 145 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: storage capacity which we don't currently have. 146 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: How is it getting funded? Is it purely insurance? 147 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: It is not. 148 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Is it donations. 149 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: It's donations, So insurance they have one job, which is 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: to restore what you had, But we wanted to be 151 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 4: really thoughtful and make sure that what we built is 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: what we need and will need for veterans in the 153 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: decades to come. So thanks to the generous support of 154 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: our community, we're using those donations to add the fourteen 155 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 4: units and to renovate the pantry space. 156 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Emmy Hill to brand with us CEO of HVAV. Wow, 157 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: you've been on with us a number of times. What's 158 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: been the response of the Hammer and Nigel Wibc audience 159 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: every time you come on? 160 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: Well, I have to tell you your people are people, 161 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: So probably right now I'm getting texts on my phone 162 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: from people who are listening that support HVAF and the 163 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: work that we do in our loyal listeners of yours 164 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: as well. So really appreciate you guys having me on 165 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: so much and you know, cheering us on as we 166 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: go through all of this. 167 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: So that being said, what can we do to help you. 168 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: Can continue to raise awareness. You know, veterans are more 169 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: likely to be homeless than non veterans, especially women veterans, 170 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: which is the fastest growing segment of the homeless population 171 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: in the United States. 172 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: Why. 173 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: I think they face a unique set of circumstances and 174 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: challenges that civilians don't. You know, they often are uprooted 175 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: from their lives when they join the military, and when 176 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: they come home, it's just it's not quite the same. 177 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: They're not the same and home is not the same, 178 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 4: and that can be a really hard adjustment. So it's 179 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: really important that as a community. We make sure that 180 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 4: those who are struggling on our street have the resources 181 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: that they need. 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: Let me ask you one more question, and I want 183 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: to be respectful of your time, but you deal with 184 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: homeless veterans. I'm wondering if this, if your model can 185 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: be extrapolated to homeless citizens in Indianeapolis that don't have 186 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: a military background. Does that Does that make sense? 187 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 3: It does? I think the principles are the same. 188 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 4: You know, we have three main housing programs that we 189 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: utilize to serve veterans. Are transitional housing, which is temporary. 190 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: We have a rental assistance program where we work with 191 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: veterans who are literally homeless or within two weeks of 192 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: eviction to stabilize them. It's a lighter touch. And then 193 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: we have something called permanent support of housing, which is 194 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: for veterans who may need lifelong support to keep their housing. 195 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 4: I think all of those models are being used in 196 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: the wider homeless service community, but maybe not resourced as well. 197 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: So I do think there are a lot of lessons 198 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 4: that can be applied. 199 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Mark on the YouTube chat where can we donate? How 200 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: can we help? 201 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: I would direct people to our website HVAF dot org. 202 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: There is an opportunity to donate financially, which we would 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: greatly appreciate. There's all so an opportunity to donate your time. 204 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 4: Our food and clothing pantries are staffed fully by volunteers 205 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: every Tuesday and Thursday. And I love working in the 206 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: pantry because you know, life is hard and it's complex, 207 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 4: and hardly ever can you meet a need in a moment, 208 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 4: and you can do that in the pantry. 209 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: And one of the great things that I think local 210 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: like athletic teams can do is volunteer at a place 211 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: like HVAV. When I was coaching travel baseball for a 212 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: number of years and my son was playing, we would 213 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: always every Thanksgiving take them to a food bank or 214 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: take them to a local charity. And so many high 215 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: school kids have to get charity hours. In your organization 216 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: would be the perfect place for that. 217 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: We host high school students all the time and would 218 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 4: welcome anyone. We also have opportunity to do collection drives, 219 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: so we're coming up on the holiday season, so you know, 220 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: any food drives or can food items, nonperishable food items, 221 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: winter clothing, we need all of that. Our food and 222 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: clothing pantries are stocked with donations, and last year we 223 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: distributed one hundred and five thousand pounds of food and 224 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 4: clothed veterans in needs. So donations are always welcome. 225 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: HVAF dot org. That is the website for helping veterans 226 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: and families here in Indiana. Emmy Hildebrand, Emmy, it's been 227 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: a long year, but God bless you and thank you 228 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: for doing what you do. 229 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: Thank you, Jemy, Thank you guys again for all of 230 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: your support and for tearing us on. 231 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 3: It means a lot