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Speaker 1: whether you had lunch. In the early days. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this, Eddie, when you were at Decatur Central,

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Speaker 1: what time, what how did they do lunches? How many

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Speaker 2: Ooh, we had three different lunches, and so there was

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Speaker 1: After fifth period. Okay, so we had at north Central

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Speaker 1: And if you got the ear, if you got fourth

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Speaker 1: If you got fourth period lunch. When I was in

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Speaker 1: twenty five twenty twenty six season. I guess in football terms,

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Speaker 1: Colts right now, they're all sitting at the lunch table.

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Speaker 1: They're all sitting around and they're figuring out who's class

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Speaker 5: ramp her way up, and then you hope this team

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Speaker 5: is able to take off in that final month of

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Speaker 5: the season. The challenge here, Jake, is that there's been

436
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Speaker 5: no All Star break, especially for the Indiana girls, because

437
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Speaker 5: they were the hosts basically, and we saw them all

438
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Speaker 5: out and about over this last long weekend and so

439
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Speaker 5: they got right back to practice on Sunday and now

440
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Speaker 5: are the featured game coming up tonight in New York.

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Speaker 1: Once again, Scott, let me go back to when the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl was in Indianapolis, Okay, and I was walking

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Speaker 1: around downtown, And first off, it was so bizarre because

444
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Speaker 1: it was like sixty two degrees or something the Saturday

445
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Speaker 1: night before the Super Bowl. But I'm walking around downtown

446
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Speaker 1: and I remember an suv went past and Adam Sandler

447
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: was in the back seat and everbody was going crazy

448
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: and the Hampton end it turned into like the bud

449
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Speaker 1: Light Hotel for the weekend. And yeah, and I'm seeing literally,

450
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, a couple of one hundred

451
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Speaker 1: thousand people walking around just the quadrant of downtown. And

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Speaker 1: in that moment, I literally stopped and just looked around

453
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Speaker 1: and was like, I can't believe that the super Bowl

454
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Speaker 1: is here, and like that I'm witnessing all this, I

455
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Speaker 1: mean in a good way. Right, give me the moment

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Speaker 1: for the w And I'm not comparing the WNBA All

457
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Speaker 1: Star Game to the super Bowl, that would be foolish,

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Speaker 1: but for this franchising, for this city, I mean, it

459
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Speaker 1: was a big event. It was cool. Was there a

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Speaker 1: moment where you just kind of stopped and looked around

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Speaker 1: and said to yourself, like, this is cool, this is

462
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Speaker 1: a big deal. And I'm not talking about just watching

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Speaker 1: the game itself. Was there something that happened over the

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Speaker 1: weekend where you thought to yourself, this is a unique event.

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Speaker 1: It's cool that it's here. Yeah, great point.

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Speaker 5: I absolutely I took time Saturday to walk around and

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Speaker 5: experience the downtown, and my goodness, it was blown up

468
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Speaker 5: in the best way possible, even better I thought than

469
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Speaker 5: last year with NBA All Star Week, and I thought

470
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Speaker 5: that was such a You didn't know it at the time,

471
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Speaker 5: but that was basically a trial run then for what

472
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Speaker 5: we just experienced. And I thought Nike and Gatorade in

473
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Speaker 5: particular going all in with their banners just made it

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Speaker 5: feel assive. And then to me, Jake, it was going

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Speaker 5: into the.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Eddie, what.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing over there? What are you doing over there?

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Speaker 4: Ready?

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Speaker 1: You keep stepping on wires? Are you stepping on wires?

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Speaker 1: Is that where we're I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've had some network issues here, some activity issues, right,

482
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Speaker 2: I got them back again.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what it is usually, Jake, that's only

484
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Speaker 5: when I'm on my iPhone. I'm in the home studio,

485
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Speaker 5: so I have no idea what that is. But to

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Speaker 5: my point, it was going into the convention center, where

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Speaker 5: I was told in the first two hours on Saturday

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Speaker 5: there were more people than there were the previous day.

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Speaker 5: The entire day it was filled with player appearances. I

490
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Speaker 5: love the players buy in to the weekend. And I

491
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Speaker 5: think the other telling part to me more about the

492
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Speaker 5: league as well. Jake was so many of the different

493
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Speaker 5: companies and activations going on. They're only doing that if

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Speaker 5: there's interest, and the interest to me was through the roof.

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Speaker 5: We know what kind of fans fill the arena now

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Speaker 5: for games and for Friday night to your point earlier,

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Speaker 5: So to me, it was walking around Saturday and just

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Speaker 5: seeing and the massive amount of groups and events going on.

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Speaker 5: I thought Georgia Street was fantastic, and I thought Indy

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Speaker 5: did a great job crushing it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the it was cool, and I will say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, just the signage and the overall vibe and

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Speaker 1: then you have obviously summer celebration that was taking place.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was the perfect marriage of you know,

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Speaker 1: just people having a good time in downtown indian It

506
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Speaker 1: was good to see Indianapolis, which at a time that

507
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Speaker 1: Indy probably needed it right for downtown Indianapolis to be

508
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Speaker 1: able to show out a little bit, which was, you know,

509
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Speaker 1: obviously very cool. Scott, in terms of field House Files,

510
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Speaker 1: give me the other that you are working on or

511
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Speaker 1: the upcoming stories that you might have coming to field

512
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Speaker 1: House Files.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we have Passcalciakam obviously in the brickyard four

514
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: hundred driving the pace car so I got to write

515
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Speaker 5: about that. And then Tyrese Halliburton talked today for the

516
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Speaker 5: first time about his injury and was on for more

517
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 5: than an hour with Pat, so we'll be passing along

518
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Speaker 5: what he had to say. And one of those big

519
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 5: things was that Kevin Durant was here well.

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Speaker 1: Talked to Scott Agnes later on. Appreciate it. Let's get

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Speaker 1: back into what the cold for talking about. I'm not

522
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Speaker 1: really interested in having somebody come on here and talk

523
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Speaker 1: about something that's taking place against us while we're on

524
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Speaker 1: the air, so we'll just move along with that. Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard spoke earlier today, and I want to get back

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Speaker 1: into that, Eddie, because we've got you know, he talked

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Speaker 1: about a number of different things, and one of those is,

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Speaker 1: you know, Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, and with Richardson,

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Speaker 1: you know again, I go back to I think Richardson,

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Speaker 1: there is so much that is in play with his

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Speaker 1: shoulder and whether or not. And I think Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: even knows that he's kind of tiptoeing it is the

533
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Speaker 1: wrong way of saying it, but he's got to know

534
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Speaker 1: that you can only go so many times with Anthony

535
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Speaker 1: Richardson in going to letting him like go, you know,

536
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Speaker 1: two steps forward, one step back, two steps forward, one

537
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Speaker 1: step back, and listen. There is a talent within Richardson

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Speaker 1: that is so intriguing that I understand why you keep

539
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Speaker 1: going back to it. And it's like I've said with

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Speaker 1: the Pacers with Jonathan Bender. The reason why Jonathan Bender

541
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Speaker 1: that you that the Pacers extended him and gave him

542
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Speaker 1: so many opportunities is because they saw so many times,

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Speaker 1: like in practice and things like that, the the intrigue

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Speaker 1: of something that was almost unforeseen. And I think they

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Speaker 1: see that within Anthony Richardson. But as he talked about

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Speaker 1: towards the end of today, the stretches of good play

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Speaker 1: from Anthony Richardson, they have been there, but they need

548
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Speaker 1: to be there more consistently. Chris Ballard earlier today on

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Speaker 1: the consistency of Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 6: There was a three game run, three or four game run,

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Speaker 6: you know, after his mention when he came back that

552
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Speaker 6: was really good. I think you, I think we'd all

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Speaker 6: agree that was a was a great stretch of football.

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Speaker 6: And there's been stretches of accuracy that's.

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Speaker 7: Been really good. I mean the Jet game was.

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Speaker 6: You know, that's probably the best game he played in

557
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Speaker 6: his career against a really good defense. I mean the

558
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Speaker 6: record didn't show it, but that team defensively was really good.

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Speaker 6: And then what really gives me a lot of hope.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know if you can think back to

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Speaker 6: these moments, but at the end of the Pittsburgh game,

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Speaker 6: people forget we had to get a first down there

563
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Speaker 6: he threw a pass to Pittman to get the first

564
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Speaker 6: to kind of get to get the clock.

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Speaker 7: Down and pressure moments.

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Speaker 6: His ability to slow it down and make a play,

567
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Speaker 6: He's shown it multiple times. You go back to his

568
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Speaker 6: rookie year against the Rams. Bring we're down what twenty three?

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Speaker 6: Nothing brings us back to Tidal game, the Jet game,

570
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Speaker 6: you know, to win it, he had to make throws

571
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Speaker 6: to win it New England, I mean, fourth down throw

572
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Speaker 6: to get us within you know one the two point conversion.

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Speaker 6: So there's been some signs and pressure moments that he

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Speaker 6: can get things done.

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Speaker 7: Now we just got to be able to do it

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Speaker 7: all the time.

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Speaker 1: See that's the he's right, I mean, he's right in

578
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Speaker 1: that right and the fact that you've got to get

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Speaker 1: it consistently now, right, And but yet there is still

580
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Speaker 1: the belief and the hope. And we've talked before Eddie

581
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Speaker 1: about hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things,

582
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Speaker 1: but at the same time the same time, it can

583
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Speaker 1: be dangerous. The question was asked with Anthony Richardson, and

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Speaker 1: it's a fair one. Now that you have Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: in there, you know, is there still the belief? Is

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Speaker 1: there still the hope? Chris Ballard on whether or not

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Speaker 1: and in fact, the reasoning for still believing in Anthony Richardson?

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Speaker 6: Do you think people regret Baker Mayfield's timeline, Sam Darnold's timeline.

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Speaker 7: Let's just go.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, and so how about a little Sometimes you got

591
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Speaker 6: to have a little patience with a guy and let

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Speaker 6: them grow through things. Now, there's got to be like,

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Speaker 6: if you just know this guy, no he can't do it.

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Speaker 6: But if if you think, hey, he's on the right trajectory,

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Speaker 6: why are you gonna Why are you gonna flush him

596
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Speaker 6: just because people outside think you should flush him?

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Speaker 7: I don't. I don't agree with that.

598
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Speaker 6: I think we need to give Anthony every chance to

599
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Speaker 6: be the best he can be, and I think I

600
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Speaker 6: think he can be really good.

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Speaker 7: You know, but things got to come together.

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Speaker 1: I think what I heard today from Chris Ballard and Eddie,

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Speaker 1: you tell me if you agree or disagree. But I

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Speaker 1: heard a general manager that. And in his defense, to

605
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Speaker 1: be fair, if Chris Ballard came up there today and

606
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Speaker 1: spouted till the cows came home that he loves this roster,

607
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Speaker 1: he is confident that they're going to compete for an

608
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Speaker 1: AFC South title, and that they are exactly where they

609
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Speaker 1: need to be, and he is thrilled with it. We

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Speaker 1: would come on here and tortu him and say he's delusional,

611
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Speaker 1: he's arrogant, and we would I would sit here and

612
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Speaker 1: John probably would as well sit here and go on

613
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Speaker 1: and on about how why in the world are we

614
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Speaker 1: trusting this guy, and why is he getting year fifteen

615
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Speaker 1: or whatever it's been. But to be fair to him,

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Speaker 1: if he comes on and he's a little more contrite

617
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: and he's a little more humble, and he's a little

618
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Speaker 1: more realistic as to where they are, then we sit

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Speaker 1: here and say, why are they not better than they are?

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Speaker 1: Why does he not have a better belief? So there's

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a double edged sword there in

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Speaker 1: all honesty, But he did to me today Eddie, and

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Speaker 1: you tell me if you agree or disagree. He did

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Speaker 1: sound like a guy who is just a little more

625
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Speaker 1: like but at the same time a little bit more

626
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Speaker 1: in the dark about where his team is than he

627
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Speaker 1: claimed to be.

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Speaker 2: The last two years felt like he was flustered about

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Speaker 2: where things are at, especially with the common thing he

630
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Speaker 2: made about missing the playoffs each you know for what

631
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: last four years now, it just feels like he's searching

632
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: for answers just like the rest of us. Jake, and

633
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: he's frustrated with losing, and he's flustered with the fact

634
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Speaker 2: that he can't seem to figure it out in terms

635
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: of building the roster around to win, even like Pittsburgh,

636
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Speaker 2: the Steelers somehow always win even though they don't have

637
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: great quarterback plays. It just seems frustrated with that aspect

638
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: of not being able to find wins even though the

639
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Speaker 2: quarterback play may not be there week two week game

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Speaker 2: to game.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: The the other thing when he was asked about it,

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Speaker 1: you know, like Daniel Jones, it sounded to me like

644
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Speaker 1: when he was asked about Daniel Jones, and Daniel Jones

645
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Speaker 1: is a guy that he brought in right and he

646
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Speaker 1: was compliment them. Let's hear what he had to say

647
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones, and then there's something coming off of

648
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: that that I want to add on to. Here's Chris

649
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Speaker 1: Ballard earlier today on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 6: Good dude, really good guy. Centered, He's been through a lot.

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Speaker 6: Daniel's been like he he's seen in you know, being

652
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 6: in New York and a scrutiny on being a top

653
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: ten pick.

654
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 7: Is not for everybody.

655
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 6: But I thought he handled it with grace and class

656
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: like you would expect. And that's who he is. No,

657
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 6: he and Daniel's talented. I mean, Daniel's a very talented player.

658
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: So it's gonna it'll be a fun competition to watch

659
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: between these two guys are both very talented.

660
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Speaker 1: Now, he seemed to me, though, to be more and

661
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: I know that he knows Anthony Richardson better, Eddie, but

662
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard seemed to me to be a guy that

663
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Speaker 1: still was leaning more towards promoting Richardson or building up

664
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Speaker 1: Richardson than Jones. But what's fascinating to me, and I'm

665
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna go back, what's that I have a thought on that? Okay,

666
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: go ahead, because I'll tell you what fascinates me.

667
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: Do you think the reason why he's building up Bridgarson

668
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: just because, like us and other people that I've talked

669
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 2: about the competition, they've druggen through the mud already saying, hey,

670
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: this is over. You know Daniel Jones can be the

671
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: Week one starter. You think that's part of it. No,

672
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: I think it's this I was gonna say, or the

673
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: aspect of hey, this is the guy they drafted to

674
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Speaker 2: correct come, that's it.

675
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: I still think it's this. I go back to when

676
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: Jim Merseay held the famous press conference and said with

677
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: Ryan Grigson and Chuck Pagano that these two guys are

678
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: attached it to him, and we later found out they

679
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: were not. He detached them. But what I think Chris

680
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Ballard knows, whether he wants to admit it or not,

681
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: whether he's aware of it or not. The bottom line

682
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: is that in the eyes of the fan base, in

683
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: the eyes of a lot of the national media and

684
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: maybe the local media as well, but certainly in the

685
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: eyes I think of the people signing his paycheck, Chris

686
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Ballard is attached to Anthony Richardson. I realized Chris Ballard

687
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: also brought in Daniel Jones, but Chris Ballard by kicking

688
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: the can down the road and going band aid at

689
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: quarterback for a number of years. And albeit I get it,

690
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: the Luck thing was not his fault. I get it, okay,

691
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: But when you knew that Andrew Luck was not coming

692
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: back and that went on about its way, then you

693
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: had to go out and eventually get your new franchise quarterback.

694
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: And Carson Wentz was a tep number one, And yes,

695
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: that might have been attached to Frank Reich. But then

696
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: when it came down to it, when your owner was saying, look,

697
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: we've got to get a young quarterback in there, and

698
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: you had four to choose from Bryce Young in no

699
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: particular order, Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud, Antony Richardson, Will Levis,

700
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: So I guess the order in which they were selected. Yes,

701
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: it is true that they would have had to have

702
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: moved up or moved around in order to get like

703
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: if it was Young or Stroud, but that possibility was

704
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: in the mix, and they were happy with Anthony Richardson.

705
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: And I understand why there's a lot of intriguing pieces

706
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: and unusual pieces about him, But Anthony Richardson is who

707
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: when Chris Ballard in his ultimate test, was put to

708
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: the test of what player is the one that you

709
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: were going to go after as a franchise player. Then

710
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: in that situation, he chose Anthony Richardson, And so he

711
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: has to know that his branding, in terms of his

712
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: judgment of selection, is most attached to Anthony Richardson. So

713
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: he is going to ride that until the very last

714
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: drop when the fuel light is on to make sure

715
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: and I understand it. I'm not damning him for it.

716
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: He is going to make absolutely certain that he gets

717
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: every opportunity possible for that to happen. And therefore I

718
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: think he is going to end out. What's fascinating to

719
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: me is the other side of that, which I think

720
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: could be something to watch and play out. And I

721
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: talk about precedent, there might be a precedent towards something

722
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: that we're going to see. And I'll explain what I'm

723
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: talking about next Stephen Holder by the way top of

724
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: the hour. See, I think it's got to be this

725
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: right in terms of signature song. But Madonna's nickname is

726
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: like if you google the material, girl, I think Madonna

727
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: is the first thing that comes up.

728
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: Right here, let me look it up the Material Girl.

729
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but the Material Girls. I think Material Girls

730
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: actually the better song. But that was Material Girl right there.

731
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, But like a Virgin is the one that

732
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: I think is her bigger, like the more recognized hit. Right,

733
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Material Girls a cool song though, I agree. So tomorrow

734
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: ten o'clock in the morning, everything gets underway Colts practice.

735
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: We will be out there Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. We're

736
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: out there, right, yeah. Do we have a line yet

737
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: on what players will be getting, because I assume that

738
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: we're beginning we'll be talking to players out there.

739
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: Correct, I'm not sure who just yet, Jake, But yeah,

740
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: you're out there the rest of the week after today.

741
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: He'll be out there Monday and Tuesday, so you'll next

742
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: being studio with me on Wednesday. So I know you're

743
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 2: going to dearly miss me because it'll be a whole

744
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: entire week without seeing this and being around this awesome

745
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: person that I am.

746
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I notice you're wearing your Anthony Richardson shirt today.

747
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: I was just wearing my Colt shirt. It just happened

748
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: to have Richardson on the back. Yeah, okay, well, I

749
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: mean that's.

750
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: Good, right. I just listen that Jets game. I think

751
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: you just always go back to it, don't you.

752
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: The Jets game, the New England game, where you know,

753
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: it's a got to have it drive, you gotta go

754
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: down and score a touchdown and whatever. It was like

755
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: sixteen plays you convert three different fourth downs?

756
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Was it Richardson or Flacco? That was in in Tennessee

757
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: when they got the huge play to Alec Pearce. That

758
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: was Flacco? What it was Flacco? Yeah?

759
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: And then the touchdown to Pittman in overtime to win it. Yeah,

760
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: that was Flacco.

761
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

762
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Speaker 1: I get why they're intrigued by it. I do. I

763
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: totally understand it. But at the same time, you know,

764
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: how long do you give it? And I think one

765
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: of the things that's going to be interesting as well.

766
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: And Chris Ballard led off today by talking about his

767
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: the close relationship, and I think it's it's it's valid,

768
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: you know. I mean with Jim Mersey's daughters that they've

769
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: been around and he has been a part of that,

770
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: and you know, he's had regular conversation with them. And

771
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, because this is not like I mentioned this yesterday, Eddie,

772
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: I think we all hear about this. You see the

773
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: movie Tommy Boy.

774
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 4: Right, No.

775
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: I ever seen Tommy Boy. I have not. Do you

776
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: like Farley?

777
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 2: Like Chris Farley? Yeah? Sure, I've only seen a couple

778
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: of things that his is not a ton.

779
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: So Tommy Boy, you know, basically he's like the guy

780
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: that's away at college for seven years and you know, wild,

781
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: party animal, et cetera. And then he's you with the

782
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: exception of the party part. And then he you know,

783
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: he basically inherits his dad's company. And I think that

784
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: they're with any business. And I'm saying this totally exclusive

785
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: of the Ursa daughters, but in any business, whether it

786
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: be an architecture firm or a pro sports franchise, whenever

787
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: the person who has been the long standing owner passes

788
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: away and then the second generation or in this case,

789
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: the third generation takes over, there is the assumption of, oh,

790
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: they got the phone call while they were living like

791
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: an aspen as a trust or traveling, you know, following

792
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: the dead, going up and down the coastlines of the

793
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: West Coast for Dead and Company and enjoying that and

794
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: living off the millions, and now all of a sudden

795
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: they're being called back to run the family business. There's

796
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: a stereotype of that. There's a there's an assumption of

797
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: that by a lot of people. I don't think that

798
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: is the clearly that's not the case here. I mean

799
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: we know that because they have been around, and I

800
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: think it was important for Chris Ballard for himself to

801
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: point that out. I don't think he was trying to

802
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: necessarily kiss up to the owner type thing or kiss

803
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: the ring. I think he was simply wanting to point out,

804
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, hey, these are you know Carlie Ersay Gordon

805
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: in particular Carli Gordon. Yeah, Carli Ersay Gordon. You know,

806
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: she has been around a lot, She's been on the sideline,

807
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: she's been wearing the headsets. And as I mentioned yesterday,

808
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: I think that it would be very easy and it

809
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: has been for the last couple of years for people

810
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: to be like, why is the Jim Mersey's daughter like

811
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: walking around We're in headsets and carrying a clipboard And

812
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: people wanted to roll their eyes at that previously, But

813
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: now you look at it and say, you know, I'm

814
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: kind of glad that's the way it is, right because

815
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: what is going to be taking place that she is

816
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: now in charge of, that she has not herself observed,

817
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: I commend it, and I think that's simply what he

818
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: was trying to say. You know, hey, listen, the reality

819
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: is that this is how you know, this is somebody

820
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: that I have familiarity with and somebody that due to

821
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: that familiarity, I'm comfortable with the relationship here because there

822
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: is not the we all have had this where you

823
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: get the new boss, meet the new boss, same as

824
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: the old boss. But sometimes you get a new boss

825
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, what do you think? What are you hearing? Like?

826
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: Are they going to bring in their own people? And

827
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: everybody gets all nervous. Then you got to meet the

828
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: new boss. You got to find out, you got to

829
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: feel them out, and you know, then everybody's asking us,

830
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: so what do you think of the new boss? Have

831
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: you heard? And I think Chris Ballard is wanting to

832
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: let people know, look, new boss is a lot like

833
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: the old boss in the fact that been around, not

834
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: that overly new and familiar and basically just promoted from

835
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: within essentially, is the easiest way to look at it.

836
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: But as the colts get ready to get into the

837
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: swing of things, as they get set to return to

838
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: the practice field tomorrow at ten am. There's something that

839
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: I wonder and about, and I'm very curious. I need

840
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: the pulse of the Colts fan base here. I need

841
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: audience participation on this because I have a survey question

842
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: for the masses.

843
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Another good survey question, Jake, that could go along with yours.

844
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: Maybe is Chris Blind's voice white noise? At this point?

845
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that's you're correct, like, yes, is it

846
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: the same thing that's falling on deaf ears now right?

847
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: Because it's kind of the same. Do they need a

848
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: new voice to get you invigorated? But there's something else

849
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: that happened that makes me wonder if people if white

850
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: noise is a very good way of saying it, if

851
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like you're on a treadmill. So I

852
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: need audience participation so that I can get the pulse

853
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: of the Colt's nation to make sure we're doing this right,

854
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: and then I have an idea of what people are

855
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: feeling before I go to Grand Park tomorrow. Two thir

856
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: nine ten seventy is the telephone number for that. I

857
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: will let you know what it is I'm thinking about

858
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: and that I worry about next. Okay, I need an

859
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: audience participation poll here because I have a legitimate question

860
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: that I'm curious about, and I thought about it last

861
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: night and today, and it's going to sound like I'm

862
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: trying to like create some sort of divisiveness.

863
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: I'm not.

864
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm usually you know, I'm all encompassing type thing. But

865
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: here is my colt's question for the masses. This is

866
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: for the most part, and we've been lucky in this

867
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: town because we really have not had long periods of

868
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: complete void of excitement from a sports standpoint. Usually between

869
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: the two major sports franchises in town, one of the

870
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: two is playing at a very high level if the

871
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: other is not. For a long time, when the Colts

872
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: were finding their footing in the NFL, the Pacers were

873
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: rising and were really good. Then the Pacers had a

874
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: long period of mediocrity, at which point the Colts were

875
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: at their zenith, and then for a while there they

876
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: were both clicking at a very high rate. And then

877
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: obviously it became especially coming off of the Manning era,

878
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: and then into luck. I mean, this, without question was

879
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: an NFL Colts town. This had transferred to and I

880
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: don't know that it was ever first and foremost NBA town,

881
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: but it was certainly a basketball town, maybe collegiately more

882
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: than By the way, that cluster truck you got smells fabulous.

883
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: What what did you get? Exactly? Eddy?

884
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: Korean barbecue salmon, Jake, that's been your go to, right,

885
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 2: I've had it twice now in the last three weeks.

886
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 2: I had the case of del last week. What body

887
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: of water in Korea? Do you think they find that salmon?

888
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: Are there a lot of streams in Korea?

889
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: No?

890
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Jake, it's the barbecue sauce. Is a Korean

891
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: barbecue sauce. The salmon is the salmon.

892
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: The salmon. No, it's it's it's a it's a barbecued

893
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Korean salmon.

894
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 2: Right, it's salmon barb So where in Korea?

895
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: Peppers? And so where in Korea are they getting the barbie?

896
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 9: Cel?

897
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: Is that north or south?

898
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 2: Looks like there's pepper and salt and some jasmine rice.

899
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: Very good stuff, all right. So here's my question. Now,

900
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: that the Pacers did what they did and got within

901
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: a whisker of an NBA title, Okay, does that in

902
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form alter the enthusiasm that fans

903
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: have for the Colts season. I'm not saying that it's shifted,

904
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to create divide. There is somewhat,

905
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: I think a rivalry between the franchises locally, at least

906
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: competition for the headlines. And I know that they support

907
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: one another, and I know that Jim Mercey, like his

908
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: final tweet was about the Pacers playing the Knicks, and

909
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: I get all that, and I know that everybody wants

910
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: both franchises to do well. But does your excitement for

911
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the Colts season get tempered in any way shape or form,

912
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: or altered in any way, shape or form because of

913
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: the high that you're coming off of for the Pacers

914
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: and how close the Pacers were to a title, and

915
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: then the reality of knowing how far the Colts theoretically

916
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: are away, because from the Pacers standpoint, like they made

917
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: it to the top of the mountain and then instantly

918
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: like they let go of the toe rope and slid

919
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: back down to you know, Camp base two, and you

920
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: know that it's going to be a while before they

921
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: get back up there. But nonetheless, they were there and

922
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: it was magical. But it's a reminder and it makes

923
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: you instantly realize how far away the Colts might be.

924
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: And then you think it reinforces or it recreates the

925
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: reality in your mind of like, man, look how far

926
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: it is to go, because they're I mean seemingly they're

927
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: in a division that is there for the taking. I mean,

928
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: I know, Houston is we think going to be good,

929
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: but are they We don't know how good?

930
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: I mean?

931
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: And I'm just curious if the season seems to have

932
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: wind taken out of its sales because of the recency

933
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: by of how good the Pacers were. Did it almost

934
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: make the Colts? Did it de emphasize the excitement? I

935
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: think for a long time the Colts camp and the

936
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: Colts getting back on the playing field, we were super

937
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: stoked about it because it had been you know, oftentimes

938
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: three to four months before we've seen pro sports in

939
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: this town, and that was say a first round exit

940
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: or a miss of the playoffs by the Pacers. Now

941
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: there's so much interest and intrigue about the Pacers. Has

942
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: that taken away from what today is a report day?

943
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 2: Like people are dreading the start of the Cult season

944
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 2: because they have low expectations.

945
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, dreading's probably the wrong word, but yes, to an extent, right,

946
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: does it feel like a more even more arduous task,

947
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh man, you know, in other words,

948
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: you when you think about the injury, and then you

949
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: really stop and you're like, oh my gosh, they were

950
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: so close, and think about everything that had to happen,

951
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: and talking about Tyresee's injury. Yes, okay, and you're like,

952
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: and you know, they were so close and to be

953
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: that close and then realize and it takes like three

954
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: or four revisits in your mind to reinforce and realize

955
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: that their timeline was thrown off that much. And now

956
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like, oh man, so the

957
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: Pacers got to kind of pick up the pieces and

958
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: then move forward. And then you compare that to the

959
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: Colts and you're like, wait a minute, they were never

960
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: even there to begin with, and they've kind of been

961
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: doing any I think you made a very good point there,

962
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: the white noise of like, in all honesty, the Chris

963
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: Ballard press conference today, same old bleep, different year. If

964
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: we put a pulled up the recording of that from

965
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, would it have been how different would it

966
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: have been? The names would have been different, but would

967
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: the line, the company line have been different? It would

968
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: have been like the same old thing, right, and so

969
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: does it feel like because we finally saw a breakthrough

970
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: progress on one side of downtown, does it feel like

971
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: you're stuck in the mud with the other one.

972
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 2: I mean, the players certainly should be in the mindset of, hey,

973
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: look what this city did for the pacers and how

974
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: they backed them and surrounded them and supported them. Like,

975
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 2: if they're willing to do that for them, they can

976
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 2: certainly do that for us. We've got to, you know,

977
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: we got to get our bleep together for the fans

978
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 2: and for the city.

979
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this question. I asked somebody

980
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: this earlier. In your kitchen right now, Eddie, I want

981
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: you to envision your kitchen.

982
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 2: Okay, visioning Heck, I can pull it up right now.

983
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: If you're likening. How many we've got a camp?

984
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:40,959
Speaker 4: How many?

985
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: How many kitchen drawers do you have? Five? Uh? Six?

986
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 4: Okay?

987
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Six? Okay, now I think the far left. You open

988
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: that up. That's you got utensils in one of them. Right,

989
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: you're four far right? Okay, far right. The next to

990
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: that one, okay, you open that up. What's in there?

991
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: Maybe an oven mid or two next to that one? Yeah, okay,

992
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: Then then give me. The third what's in a third one?

993
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 1: I think we've got the like a container lids. Okay,

994
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm very organized, Jake, Okay. Then the fourth what do

995
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: you have that would be uh, the containers okay? And

996
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: then fifth if we're at last or second words bags

997
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: like plastic bags, that type of stuff. Now here's here's

998
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: where I'm getting with this, Okay. Then you get to

999
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: number six when you open that drawer and it probably

1000
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: squeaks half the time. It doesn't open because something is

1001
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: like higher up than it needs to be. And you

1002
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: open it up and you look in that drawer and

1003
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: it's got two sharpies. It's the giant drawer, a tape measurer,

1004
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: a roll of tape, some random band aid, and like, uh,

1005
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: a phone charger from a phone you had three generations ago. Right,

1006
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: It's just like eclectic crap thrown in there, and it

1007
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: feels like in the NFL. Nice the NFL, that's what

1008
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: the AFC South is, right, a click thick crap. The

1009
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: AFC South is the junk drawer of the NFL. Right, Yeah,

1010
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: to the rest of the league. You open it up

1011
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, this is this jaguar And then the

1012
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: Texans they're like an expansion, but they're kind of not.

1013
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: They've been around a while, but they can't get it

1014
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And then the Titans, I don't

1015
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. And then there's the Colts. And

1016
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: yet with that division, with the in being in the

1017
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: junk drawer Division, nobody in that division when they win

1018
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: the division and gets into the playoffs, none of them

1019
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: do anything. I mean, the Titans went randomly to an

1020
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: AFC title game with Ryan Tannehill cool. The Jaguars randomly

1021
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: went to an AFC title game with Blake Bortles cool.

1022
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: Outside of that, each of them get their turn of

1023
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: the rotation. They get picked out of the crowd, and

1024
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: the price is right to come down and spin the

1025
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: big wheel, and they they spin it and they get

1026
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: on ninety five cents, and instead of taking that, they

1027
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: spin it again and they hit ninety five cents again.

1028
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 1: If I had done Drew Carry is like, thanks for playing,

1029
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: You're gone right every time?

1030
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 10: Right?

1031
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: And yet with that, every other team in the division

1032
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: has won the division twice since Indianapolis last won it.

1033
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: So is there a feeling for the fan base of

1034
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I just squeeze in, Jeff,

1035
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: real quick before we get to Steven Holder. Jeff, what's up?

1036
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 9: Hey? How you doing? I wanted to solve your All

1037
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 9: Star Game conundrum? And it's really simple, and uh it's

1038
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 9: it's simply go back to East versus West and predominantly

1039
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 9: the fan bo.

1040
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: Now hold on All Star Game now. And I don't

1041
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: mean to be rude.

1042
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 9: What's n B A, w n B A and w

1043
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 9: NBA even Major League Baseball you can throw it in

1044
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 9: there too.

1045
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: When were we When When were we? And I'm not

1046
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: saying we didn't, because you know I'm old. When were

1047
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: we having the debate on this?

1048
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 9: Well, you're talking about you've talked about how the All

1049
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 9: Star Game is a bunch of gimmicks, and you know,

1050
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 9: just there's no skin in the game, and I think

1051
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 9: we should put skin in the game. And that skin

1052
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,479
Speaker 9: being in you go East versus West, mostly mostly fan votes,

1053
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 9: and then whoever wins the All Star Game gets home

1054
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 9: court advantage for the finals.

1055
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: Didn't they do that? Major League Baseball did that?

1056
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: Right? Did?

1057
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 9: I don't know. I don't fallow baseball as most of basketball, but.

1058
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball did do that, Jeff. For they did

1059
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: it for what Eddie Pye a handful of years and

1060
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: then they did away with it. It's funny, Jeff, because

1061
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but when the Major League

1062
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: Baseball All Star Game dead, it of course it was

1063
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: in the middle. You know, it's in the middle of

1064
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: the season like the NBA is exactly at that time,

1065
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: people liked it. And then I can't remember what. You know,

1066
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: there was some team one year that didn't have as

1067
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: much representation in the All Star Game and then they

1068
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: got robbed of home court or home field advantage despite

1069
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: being the far better team. I get it, right, I

1070
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: totally get it.

1071
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 9: If you look at the NBA and the w NBA,

1072
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 9: most of the players on that court have skin in

1073
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 9: the game. They all think they're going to make the playoffs,

1074
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 9: and you would have a competitive game, you would have defense,

1075
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 9: you would have something skin in the game, and that

1076
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 9: would bring back fan interest and they means a lot more.

1077
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Listen, certainly I don't disagree with you, Jeff, certainly on

1078
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Speaker 1: the men side of things in the NBA too, that

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: the lack of defense is. I mean, it's just, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's nothing but and it's an unbelievable display of athleticism

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: for like five minutes, and then after that it's just like,

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00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: what are we doing? You know what I mean? You

1083
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: believe it or not, And it's crazy to think that.

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00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: Like a guy doing a bounce pass from ninety four

1085
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: feet away to a guy that is swooping in from

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Speaker 1: twenty feet all via the air, that's doing two cartwheels

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00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: in the air and then dunking. It gets tiresome, but

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Speaker 1: it does after you've seen it, like five times. Stephen

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Speaker 1: Holder was out at Grand Park in Westfield, joins us. Next,

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Speaker 1: you gonna find out what's going on out at Grand

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Speaker 1: Park with Stephen Holder, who joins us and has surrendered

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Speaker 1: his personal life as he knows it for the next

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Speaker 1: four months, joins us. Now on the guest line, I

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00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: can hear the Are you at the Masters? It sounds

1095
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: like you're at Augusta Nationals. I hear Birdie's chirping. Sounds

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00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: very peaceful.

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Speaker 10: Stephen, Oh no, not even close. I wish what's still fine?

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Speaker 10: It's fine?

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Speaker 1: So you're still that Grand Park? Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Just left, just left, just round the corner?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair enough, All right, let's begin with this

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Speaker 1: early well from a health standpoint and Obviously I'm going

1103
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Speaker 1: from afar because I got in here right as things

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Speaker 1: were kind of getting both you know, settled in from

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00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: report day and then Chris Ballard speaking. But from what

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00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: I was able to tell, there were no reports of

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: significant injury or miss time, although Zire Franklin is going

1108
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: to be a spectator for a while, anything else that

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Speaker 1: I missed.

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Speaker 10: No, that's the encouraging thing I'd say. Uh, Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 10: first off is obviously the big one, you know, as

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Speaker 10: I as I said or wrote last week, are indicated

1113
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 10: he's he's good to go. According to Chris Ballard, there

1114
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 10: may be some restriction on him in terms of how

1115
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 10: many throws they're going to chart his throw so that

1116
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 10: you know, they don't have any setback there, but they

1117
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 10: don't have any concerns according to their evaluation, so that's good.

1118
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 10: Sire Franklin is the one I think to watch. He

1119
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Speaker 10: has had an off season ankle surgery and he's still

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Speaker 10: not cleared to practice, but Chris Ballard said it won't

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Speaker 10: be very long, so we will see how that goes

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 10: and see if that proves to be true. Otherwise, they're

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01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 10: they're pretty good. They're in good shape. And nobody's going

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Speaker 10: to go on the puplist. They won't have any of those,

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Speaker 10: and they normally have at least a couple. They won't

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Speaker 10: have that this year. Sampson epucom at defensive end. He

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Speaker 10: missed last season, as you know with the the Achilles tier.

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Speaker 10: He's cleared, so they feel good about that as well.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, that's the that's the good news.

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Speaker 1: On Day one, Stephen Chris Ballard spent about thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: answering questions talking with the media. Admittedly, and I'm a

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Speaker 1: little I go back and forth on this Steven. I

1133
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: think he's in a tough spot to an extent in

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Speaker 1: terms of seting out that it's his goal to satisfy

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Speaker 1: media or fans. But if he comes out and says, look,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm thrilled about our roster. I think we're

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01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: going to be great. I'm ready for the year. We're

1138
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: gonna be competitive, we're gonna be tough, then everybody's gonna go,

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01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: what is this guy talking about? He says the same

1140
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: thing every year, and yet he comes out and I

1141
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: thought was a little more humble, a little more realistic

1142
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: than in years past. And so then we want to

1143
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: torch him for saying he knows his team in very

1144
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: good So it's a little bit of a double edged sword.

1145
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: Your interpretation of I guess the mood and the approach

1146
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: from Chris Ballard versus years past.

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01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 10: Was what, Well, first of all, what I think the

1148
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 10: thing to point out is I fear. I think the

1149
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 10: thing to point out is I think he knows and

1150
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 10: I would agree with this. I think he believes, Chris

1151
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 10: Ballard that they have a good roster, a top the bottom.

1152
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 10: I think that's been true for quite some time, better

1153
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 10: this year than last year. I thought last year he

1154
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 10: left too many holes on defense. But generally speaking, they

1155
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 10: have a strong roster and they have for quite some time.

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01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 10: The problem is they just can't get it together at quarterback. Well,

1157
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 10: what distinguishes your team from the next NFL it's the

1158
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 10: freaking quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 10: So, now that is a tough thing to navigate. When

1161
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 10: you're asked, well, why aren't you guys winning more? Well,

1162
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 10: the answer you want to be honest and say, well

1163
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 10: because we sucked at quarterback, But that also oversimplified and

1164
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 10: it sounds like you're trying to dodge responsibility when you

1165
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 10: say that. Right, So he is in a tough spot sometimes,

1166
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 10: there's no question about that. I think he understands that.

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01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 10: And he's very perceptive, Chris Ballard. He gets it, like

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01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 10: he knows he understands optics, he knows how to read

1169
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 10: a room, all those things. He's very smart. So he

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Speaker 10: was very careful in what he says. I would say,

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01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 10: in terms of the difference between this year and then

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01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 10: the past, I think that not a ton of difference,

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Speaker 10: except to say I think that there was more attention

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01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 10: paid by him and his players today to the fact

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01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 10: that they haven't been in the postseason for too long.

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Speaker 10: He even said, he said, this is the longest in

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Speaker 10: my career I've gone without being in the playoffs and

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Speaker 10: anywhere he's worked as a GM or not. I'm talking

1179
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 10: about throughout his career, even as a scout. So it's

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Speaker 10: very it's very top of mind for him, and like,

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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 10: even if he doesn't talk about it all the time,

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 10: it's hitting him in the face every single day. And

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 10: I think he understands that, and I thought he he

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01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 10: shed a little bit of light on that with that comment.

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01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 10: So that was interesting and I thought notable.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you when you look at the Anthony

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Speaker 1: richards and Daniel Jones situation. I thought he spent more

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Speaker 1: time Chris Baller did, and maybe it's because it's the

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Speaker 1: guy he knows more so to speak, and he brought

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Speaker 1: in both. But I thought he he was asked for

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Speaker 1: about Richardson. I get that, but he's seen to go

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Speaker 1: far more and more in detail about expectation and et

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Speaker 1: cetera of Anthony Richardson than Daniel Jones. But you were there.

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Speaker 1: Am I misinterpreting what I heard?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 10: I think that's fair, And I would also add he

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01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 10: was asked far more questions about Anthony Richardson because I

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01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 10: do think that that's where the questions exist, right, I mean,

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Speaker 10: can Anthony Richardson figure this out and hold on to

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Speaker 10: his job? Daniel Jones, while there are questions about how

1201
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 10: it's going to go with him, I think it's more.

1202
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 10: I think people have an expectation in their mind of

1203
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 10: how he'll perform and what he'll be, and with Anthony Richardson,

1204
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 10: it's a little more wide open, I guess, you know.

1205
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 10: So the questions were certainly more geared toward Anthony Richardson,

1206
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 10: no question about that, and so the feedback was as well.

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Speaker 10: I would also say, though he certainly is. I think

1208
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 10: he would argue Chris Balace more invested in Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 4: Frankly, they all are.

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01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 10: I mean, if Daniel Jones comes in and wins the

1211
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 10: job and play is sort of like just okay, they've

1212
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 10: not accomplished anything.

1213
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 4: Right.

1214
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 10: If Anthony Richardson wins the job and plays at a

1215
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 10: decent level, that actually is something to hang your hat on,

1216
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 10: because that's progress.

1217
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 10: So I just think they there's an understanding, certainly by

1219
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 10: Chris Ballard, whose job as GM is to look at

1220
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 10: the big picture, there's an understanding that like, if they're

1221
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 10: going to figure out the quarterback situation, Anthony Richardson having

1222
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 10: a good season could be a step.

1223
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Speaker 4: Toward that, right. So anyway, I just.

1224
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 10: I just imagine that's kind of some of the thoughts

1225
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 10: that kind of go through his head and are informing

1226
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Speaker 10: his answers.

1227
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Speaker 1: You know, Stephen, I was asking his earlier and I'm

1228
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: what your thought on it. Does the success of the

1229
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: Pacers in any way take away wind out of the

1230
01:05:55,560 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: sales of the Colts season, because it's in other words,

1231
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: we see one team in town that was at the

1232
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: top of the mountain and the whole city falls in

1233
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: love with it, and everybody loves the Colts too. It

1234
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I mean, you know, I'm not

1235
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: saying that. But then the contrast, because it's in such

1236
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: an immediacy, because we're coming right off of it, does

1237
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: it make it difficult do you think for the fan

1238
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: base to push all in this early, knowing how far

1239
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: away the franchise may be based on what they just saw.

1240
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: Did we lose Stephen Eddie? Okay, Steven, I don't know

1241
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: how much of that you got. By the way, when

1242
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: I was asking about does the success of the Pacers

1243
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: in any way? And I know people that love the

1244
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: Pacers love the Colts. I mean, I get it right,

1245
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: But does having the recency of a team at the

1246
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: highest level make it difficult for a fan base? Do

1247
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: you think to completely buy in right now to the

1248
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: training camp of the Colts.

1249
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 10: Well, first off, by the way, it turns out, if

1250
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 10: you hit the red button on the screen, the call disconnect.

1251
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 10: It's amazing. I didn't know that, so that was my

1252
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 10: fault on the disconnection. Anyway, as it relates to the Patris,

1253
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 10: it's an interesting question. I would say. I would say

1254
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 10: this though, The first thing I'd say is that watching

1255
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 10: that Patriots run and being there for some of it

1256
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 10: and experiencing it and watching how the city embraced them,

1257
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 10: it was a reminder for me as someone who covers football.

1258
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 10: It was a reminder for me just how long it's

1259
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 10: been since the Colts provided any of that. Okay, it's

1260
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 10: been a long time, And that's just a really hard

1261
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 10: thing to swallow. If you're a Colts fan, you know,

1262
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 10: you invest a lot of emotion, a lot of time,

1263
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 10: a lot of money in cases into that team and

1264
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 10: to not get anything out of it those feelings that

1265
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 10: you go searching for as a fan, that's a hard

1266
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 10: thing to swallow. So I guess that that's where I

1267
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 10: come down on it. Is just like you want a

1268
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 10: return on investment for what you put into it as

1269
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 10: a fan. And I'm not even talking about money. Even

1270
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 10: if you never buy a ticket, you're still investing your

1271
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 10: heart and your emotions in that team, you know, because

1272
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 10: you give something of yourself to support your favorite team

1273
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 10: and you've got nothing to show for it. If you're

1274
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 10: a Colts fan and a very long time, that's a

1275
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 10: tough thing, man, That's a very tough thing. So I

1276
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 10: just think that the Pacers offered a reminder of what

1277
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 10: it's like to get a payoff for that. And if

1278
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 10: you're a Colts fan, you're wondering, well, where's where's the

1279
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 10: payoff for me?

1280
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 4: So that's what that's what I say about it.

1281
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: How far off do you think they are?

1282
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I think they are. They are a

1283
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 10: team in the AFC that is kind of middle of

1284
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 10: the pack. And the question on whether they can go

1285
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 10: further than that is a quarterback question, right, and the

1286
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 10: quarterback has to elevate the team beyond what it currently is.

1287
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 10: And in any team, right, I mean, if you take

1288
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 10: the top quarterbacks off of their teams, then what kind

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Speaker 10: of team are they?

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Speaker 4: What are the Buffalo Bills If.

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Speaker 10: You take Josh Allen off and replace them with Daniel Jones, Well,

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Speaker 10: they're just probably a middle of the pack team, you know,

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Speaker 10: And I think that's.

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Speaker 4: That's just where they are.

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Speaker 10: And so when you ask me where do they stand

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Speaker 10: and where are they're you know, what is the the

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Speaker 10: end game for the Colts? I think they're a team

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Speaker 10: that's that's in the middle of the pack. You can't

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Speaker 10: go five hundred anymore because of the unbalanced schedule at

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01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 10: seventeen games, but they're essentially a five hundred team that

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Speaker 10: can be more depending on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It just feels any reasons. I mean, they're in it.

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned in earlier, they're in a division that's basically

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01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: the drunk the junk drawer of the NFL. Right, yeah, yeah,

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: good enough.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm not saying it's good enough. It's not, but

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Speaker 4: that's what they are.

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Speaker 10: They're a five hundred team, roughly a five hundred team

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 10: that could be better if they have better quarterback play.

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Speaker 10: But the odds of them having that elevated quarterback play

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01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 10: they aren't good, right, because neither quarterback has done that.

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Speaker 4: Neither of the two quarterbacks they have have done that.

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Speaker 4: So where does that leave them?

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Speaker 10: That leaves them eight and nine, nine and eight and

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Speaker 10: sitting at home in January, And that's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Holder is our guest ESPN dot com, where you

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01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: can read his work and of course you'll see him

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Speaker 1: on ESPN as well. All right, tomorrow ten o'clock, everything

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01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: gets underway. How long Stephen into the camp do we

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Speaker 1: go before we start really taking a hyper look at

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Speaker 1: exactly who's getting the most snaps at quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Oh tomorrow.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm exaggerating a little bit, but there's gonna

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Speaker 10: be a lot of scrutiny. We are going to be

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01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 10: looking at every indicator. And to that end, Chris Ballard

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01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 10: said today, he says everything matters, every rep, every practice,

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 10: every game snap, every preseason game snap. He was very clear,

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01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 10: it all matters and it will all factor into the decision.

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01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 10: So I will take my cues from the general manager

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01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 10: and pay attention to all of them.

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Speaker 1: How much of it comes into steven? How much will

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Speaker 1: factor in just on for example, if they invested a

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Speaker 1: first round picking Tyler Warren and we know he's going

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01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: to be or expect that he's going to be a

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: very good player right away. Let's say Anthony Richardson is

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01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: hitting Ady Mitchell and Alec Pearson stride on every play,

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Speaker 1: but he can't hit Tyler Warren in the intermediary to

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Speaker 1: save his life. How much of who it is that

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01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: he is able to help or hurt goes into the

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Speaker 1: factor in the decision, if you will. If Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: for example, is spoon feeding Tyler Warren on the regular

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01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: but can't go over twenty four yards accuracy, you see

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying there, like like, is there one player

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: that they go but we need to prioritize this guy

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: in involvement.

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Speaker 10: I don't think that'll be a basis for the decision.

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01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 10: Now I would say no, but I but I do

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01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 10: think the scenario you pointed out, the scenario you painted

1349
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 10: is not out of the question. You know, how they

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01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 10: how they evaluate all that we will see. But but

1351
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 10: but I do think that's that's a reality when you

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01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 10: have two quarterbacks that are different. The one thing I'd

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01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 10: say Chris Pawler did make this statement, and I tend

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01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 10: to agree. He said their quarterbacks this season are a

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01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 10: little more similar than in the past. So for example,

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01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 10: last year you had Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco. They

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 10: have nothing in common. Okay, in terms of stylistically, they

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01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 10: don't have anything in common. I think if you go

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Speaker 10: back to Anthony and Gardner Minshew for example, right, what

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 10: do they have in commonically?

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Speaker 4: Nothing? Right?

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01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 10: So this year, while I know we don't think of

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 10: Daniel Jones in that way, he is a guy who

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01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 10: can use his legs and uses athleticism, get out of

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 10: the pocket, can can do quarterback runs. So they have

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Speaker 10: some commonalities this year, so maybe it'll.

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Speaker 4: Be less so when it comes to the.

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 10: Disparity between how they play, but I do think there's there.

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01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 10: They are different in terms of explosiveness, There's no question

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Speaker 10: about that, and Daniel Jones has not been that guy

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Speaker 10: in his career.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tomorrow ten until eleven o'clock practice underway. We

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01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: will be out there live tomorrow, by the way, from

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: twelve until three. Steven Holder will have it all covered

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01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: as well as well. Obviously the morning guys, Kevin and

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01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 1: James be out there as well. Steven appreciate it as always,

1377
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: all right, enjoy the by the way, I is it

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01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: really hot outside? Is it gonna be? It's gonna be

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: hot tomorrow, right, plenty of liquids.

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Speaker 4: Today was nice. Today was nice, but it's it's gonna

1381
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 4: be burning up later this week, so.

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01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I got that to look forward to it, all right,

1383
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: Steven appreciate it all right, Steven Holder joining us on

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01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: the program. By the way, I'll address this just because

1385
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: everybody is asking about it now, Okay, about Scott agneson earlier,

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: and I'll address it. Maybe I shouldn't, but I will.

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01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: I Like Scott agnes I've known Scott Agnes since he

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01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 1: was in high school, and you know, he obviously attended

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01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: the same high school as I went through the same

1390
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: programs as I. We have a lot of common threads

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01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean I like Scott a great deal.

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01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: I have no ill will on Scott Agnes at all,

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01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: and I respect greatly the work that he does and

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,879
Speaker 1: the grinding that he does. After working for the Athletic

1395
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: and the Pacers both and now doing his own thing

1396
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: with Fieldhouse Files and when people go out on their

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: own as he has done with that website, I have

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01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: a tremendous respect for that, and I've always felt that it,

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01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of the duty, I guess, to

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 1: try to to promote those things because people like local,

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01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: they like you know, they like to buy local, they

1402
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: like to shop local. And I have a great deal

1403
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: of respect for the work that he does, and I

1404
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: think he does a very very good job in covering

1405
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: the Pacers, and certainly when it comes to the fever,

1406
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody knows that or covers it

1407
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: better than Scott, without question. I also have an understanding

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01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: and respect for and look, I've known Pat McAfee since

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: he was a rookie. So matter of fact, when I

1410
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: worked with Derek Schultz, we had to do is pretty funny.

1411
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: When Derek and I I think it was our first

1412
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: year on the radio when we were doing the Query

1413
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,839
Speaker 1: and Schultz program, and right before we started, we started

1414
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: like in August, and that September the Colt season got underway.

1415
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: This and they and the sales department over there had

1416
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: sold for us to do a weekly two hour Colts

1417
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: show from the casino up in Anderson, which is I

1418
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: mean awesome, right, and we're like, that's awesome, But getting

1419
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: players to commit to on their off day coming to

1420
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: Anderson to then do a two hour radio show is

1421
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: a big enough challenge. But that was the year that

1422
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning got hurt and they did Kerry Collins

1423
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: for like two or three games and then turned it

1424
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: over to Dana Orlovsky and Curtis Painter and you know

1425
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: the whole Josh Freeman and whatever else, and they I

1426
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: think they started zero to twelve something like that. So

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01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: then getting players for that good luck, right, I mean,

1428
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: like no player wanted to talk about anything, And Derek

1429
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: and I both were like, you know, the punter guy

1430
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: is really funny and we ended up doing I think

1431
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: it was the final six or eight weeks with McAfee

1432
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: and have been friends ever since. I mean, I've got

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01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: to get along with McAfee a great deal. I don't

1434
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: see him as much, but when he was when we

1435
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: were at WNDE and he was launching his podcast thing

1436
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: he was doing, he was recording all of that from

1437
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: inside the Bob and Tom studios. So I saw him

1438
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 1: almost daily and would see him every year annually at

1439
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: a party that takes place just before the holidays, and

1440
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: occasionally still text with him. And when I see him,

1441
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: I'm always on good terms with mcafe. I've always Pat

1442
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: and we've always gotten a loong well. I have nothing

1443
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: against Pat personally in any way, shape or form, and

1444
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: am most impressed, and you know, continue to be amazed

1445
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: at the empire that he has built. In total credit

1446
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: to him, no question, and he's a massive entertainer and

1447
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: he's incredibly plugged in and informed. However, professionally speaking, while

1448
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't in any way, shape or form pretend that

1449
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: this little Dog and Pony show competes with that level

1450
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: of power, the reality is that within this local market,

1451
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: we are making just like Pat McAfee is a pie

1452
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: and asking people to come and take a slice of it,

1453
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: and we are on it the exact same time. So

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01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: while I understand that in today's era of people going

1455
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: back and listening in podcast forms to things, and you

1456
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: know a lot of people don't watch or ingest things live,

1457
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: but nonetheless, when we are on the radio, this is

1458
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: still one format that is primarily served to and ingested

1459
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: in a live format, notably people in a car or

1460
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: at a workplace on a computer. So in that capacity,

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: while I understand and respect that Pat McAfee has very

1462
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: engaging in interesting guests and content, I also am under

1463
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: the understanding that that is happening during the time that we,

1464
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: as the only of the shows in this radio station,

1465
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: are up against that, and that that is an option

1466
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: for people to go to aside from listening to this one.

1467
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: And I'm most grateful for those that choose to listen

1468
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,440
Speaker 1: to this radio show each day and our local programming.

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01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 1: And I understand that a lot of what McAfee show

1470
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: is doing is speaking on a national platform, talking about

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: the bills or the UFC or the Washington Nationals, whatever

1472
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: it might be, But nonetheless it is still each day.

1473
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: My responsibility to try to make sure that people are

1474
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: listening to this radio station and this program, even though

1475
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: I have no ill will towards any of those people

1476
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: and get along with all of them. I mean, we're

1477
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: all in this group and this what we do. There's

1478
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: only so many of us in the hopper, right And

1479
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: even though McAfee is on a national stage, he's locally based,

1480
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: so we still intermix and see each other, you know,

1481
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: on a regular as well as Agnes. A couple of

1482
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 1: months ago or so, at some point when when Scott

1483
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: was on, he made reference to something that was taking

1484
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: place in that moment over on ESPN, and so I

1485
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: messaged Pat Scott and just said, hey, listen, I think

1486
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: you'll understand this, but if you could do me the

1487
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: favor when we do have you on, try not to

1488
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: mention something that is counterprogramming us. That's what it is.

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01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: It's counter programming, you know that is that that is

1490
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: an option for people elsewhere. And he said, hey, I

1491
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: totally get it. I apologize whatever. And I mentioned it

1492
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: to him one other time. So today when I had

1493
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 1: him on, and yes, I was well aware of the

1494
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: fact that Tyrese Haliburton was on speaking for the first

1495
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,959
Speaker 1: time since his injury with Pat Live against what counter programming?

1496
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: What we're doing again on the global scale, are they comparative?

1497
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 1: Of course not, but locally speaking to an extent, it

1498
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: is I have to compete for every person that I

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01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: can get. So I thought about messaging Scott and just saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm aware that Tyresee was on with McFee just if

1501
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 1: you will, don't mention it. But I have mentioned that

1502
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: on numerous occasion before, so when as I always feel

1503
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 1: it is important and respectful and professional to do. Oftentimes

1504
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do it with Stephen there, but I usually

1505
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: do do this, especially if it's somebody that is doing

1506
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: something on their own, with on their own building their

1507
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 1: own brand. Literally, every time that Scott comes on, I

1508
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 1: usually say what are you working on with Fieldhouse Files?

1509
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: When Bob Kravitz comes on, I will say what sort

1510
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 1: of things are upcoming at Bob Kravitz dot com because

1511
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 1: I want to give them the opportunity to promote their work.

1512
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: So when I threw it to Scott to promote his work,

1513
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: I took exception to the fact that in that moment

1514
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: he mentioned what was counter programming Exactly what we were doing,

1515
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: because if I was listening to that, my first reaction

1516
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: would have been, oh, gosh, I want to hear what

1517
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: Haliburton has to say and go away from what I'm

1518
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: listening to, which I totally understand and respect that people

1519
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: would do. I totally understand that, totally respect it. So

1520
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel that it was prudent considering it

1521
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: something that on more than one occasion I requested not

1522
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,879
Speaker 1: be done as a fair trade off for me promoting

1523
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: what he's doing, that's all. And if people took exception

1524
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: to the way I handled it, that's fine. When you're

1525
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: in this job sometimes and we are paid to be

1526
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: able to handle the arrows that fly past us, and

1527
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: more often than not, I'm pretty proud of the way

1528
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: I do it, and in that one I probably would

1529
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: do it the same again if it happens again, So

1530
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: I apologize if it bothered you, We'll get back into

1531
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: the Colts camp and let you hear a couple of

1532
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: things that Chris Ballard had to say. We'll do it

1533
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: on the other side. I guess it is fitting that

1534
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne's final show would have been that tribute with

1535
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: Black Sabbath and one of the most prolific entertainers and

1536
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: performers of his era, passing away today at the age

1537
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: of seventy six. Ozzy Osbourne, of course, the lead for

1538
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 1: Black Sabbath and a career that I'm sure John will

1539
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: absolutely take a look back on as well. And it's

1540
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: interesting to me because Ozzy Osbourne is one of those

1541
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: that certainly at his apex. And maybe part of this

1542
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: is an age bias because of the age that I

1543
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: was when Black Sabbath, for example, was at its peak

1544
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: and Ozzy was transitioning into a solo career. But Ozzy

1545
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: Osbourne was one that almost became, you know, a caricature

1546
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: to an extent of you know, the hardcore heavy metal musician.

1547
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 1: And obviously the famous story of biting the head off

1548
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: the you know some say bat bird whatever you know,

1549
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: whichever it may have been, his arrest at the Alamo

1550
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: in San Antonio, the the drunken debauchery it goes without saying,

1551
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: and then the undercurrent of the subliminal messaging within the

1552
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: lyrics of his music and et cetera. If you were

1553
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: from the outside I mean, and not necessarily like a

1554
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: diehard fan in that moment of that band and then

1555
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: I think the thing for a lot of people, and

1556
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: perhaps myself included, that really relaunched him is the wrong word,

1557
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: because he was never out of the pop cultural mainstream

1558
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. But Ozzy Osbourne, I

1559
01:23:52,479 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: think reinventing to an extent from bad boy musician to

1560
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: lovable and you had empathy towards family man that was

1561
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: trying to recapture what his almost recklessness of his younger

1562
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 1: years had nearly cost him, and by that I mean

1563
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: his family life, certainly his marriage and his health. If

1564
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: you look at the reality show of Ozzy Osbourne, which

1565
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: was fabulous, and just seeing the daily life of not

1566
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: only Ozzy Osbourne, but his relationship with Sharon Osbourne, who

1567
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: defines patience and forgiveness and grace throughout their relationship, that

1568
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 1: with his children, and then you saw, I guess, because

1569
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 1: you finally saw behind the curtain, you indeed saw the

1570
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: almost caricature nature of him on stage, and I think

1571
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: that that created an awareness for all of us about

1572
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: the fact that sometimes you just despite what you think,

1573
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 1: you don't always know people. You know you think you do,

1574
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: but you don't always know people and what they're truly like,

1575
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: and he went from somebody that I think was just

1576
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 1: larger than life to suddenly one that we actually kind

1577
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: of could all relate to. And you know, Parkinson's is

1578
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: the ultimately what Ozzy Osbourne fell victim to. But you know,

1579
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a life lived fast and

1580
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: his when he went into solo that song that you

1581
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 1: just heard, Mama, I'm Coming Home and then you know,

1582
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: road to Nowhere. You know, he had I think in

1583
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: his solo career into the early nineties, kind of a

1584
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: softer side of him came out and that parlayed into

1585
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: a softer side that we saw as well. But I

1586
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: know for a lot of people that were fans of that,

1587
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: I can tell you Shannon P. Walsh, being the queen

1588
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: of it all, is the biggest Ozzy Osbourne AquaNet like

1589
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: headbanger of them all. And there are a lot of

1590
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: people that will more in the passing of one of

1591
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: rock's true, true lead, legendary frontman and Ozzy Osbourne. We'll

1592
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: come back. We'll hand it off to John. But I

1593
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 1: did want to play you a couple of Chris Ballard

1594
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 1: clips as well. On the other side, So Chris Ballard,

1595
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: I almost said Kevin Ballard. Chris Ballard talked today out

1596
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: at Colts camp and addressed a number of different things,

1597
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: notably talking about Anthony richardson the quarterback position. Again, if

1598
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: you're just joining us, He did not mention anybody. He

1599
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: said that nobody was going to start out on the

1600
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 1: pup list. Sire Franklin was a possibility after ankle surgery,

1601
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: but Zire Franklin is good to go. He did have

1602
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: the following to say about the Colts in terms of

1603
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: what has become, unfortunately the norm, and that is missing

1604
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Chris Ballard on that subject.

1605
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sucks, man.

1606
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 6: I mean, first time my career ever gone four years

1607
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 6: without making I mean, no, it's a it's a bothersome thing,

1608
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 6: especially with the expectations we have here in Indye. I mean,

1609
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 6: that's the one thing with Jim that always appreciated man like,

1610
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 6: he don't want to be he don't want to be average,

1611
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 6: wants to be great. And that's Carly carl and I

1612
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 6: I mean, look, we you know, we spent a lot

1613
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 6: of time together because she's around us so much, but

1614
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 6: I mean she always take, Look, I don't want to

1615
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 6: be good, I want to be great. And you know

1616
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 6: that's always the goal going in and you know, twenty

1617
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 6: two was twenty two. You know, the twenty three season,

1618
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 6: we you know, last game of the year, we're right there.

1619
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 6: And even last year at the end, you know, we

1620
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 6: didn't play as like as good as I thought we

1621
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 6: should have, but we were still kind of in the mix.

1622
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 7: And then you go back to twenty.

1623
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 6: One and we're in the driver's seat and we piss

1624
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 6: it down our legs that that's we have got to

1625
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 6: finish better like that at the end of the day,

1626
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 6: we have to finish the seasons better because we've had

1627
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 6: some really good football teams that haven't got it done.

1628
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 1: So some of that does sound familiar. But then the

1629
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: other question for Chris Ballad would be this, and that

1630
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 1: is just how close then are they to making the playoffs.

1631
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 6: I think we've got a good football team, and how

1632
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 6: good we become will play out over time.

1633
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 7: Like we got to go to work.

1634
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 6: I mean, it's always about the like there's not a

1635
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 6: magic pill that you can take. There's nothing, No, there's

1636
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 6: not a magic wand you got to go to work.

1637
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 6: You know, one thing you love about the NFL is

1638
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 6: you got to earn your you got to earn the

1639
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 6: right to win, and it takes a lot of hard

1640
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 6: work and takes a group being connected and coming together.

1641
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 7: That's what's great about training camp.

1642
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 6: So kind of day by day we'll go to work

1643
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 6: and we'll see if we can reach what we think

1644
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 6: we can be.

1645
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: I just think Eddie, you said it best. You summarize

1646
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: it best when you said, is it becoming white noise?

1647
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm I don't dislike Chris Ballard, but at the same time,

1648
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: I think I speak for a lot of people in saying,

1649
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: at some point, you've got to start seeing the results, right.

1650
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: I mean, it does feel like it's just the same,

1651
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: you know. Doesn't it feel like you could play clips

1652
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 1: from last year or three years ago or five years

1653
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 1: ago and it would be the same thing, you know

1654
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, like it just the the whole

1655
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: thing of you know, we're close, We're not close. We man,

1656
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: it sucks, you know, I got to do a better job.

1657
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, just for example, when he talks about the

1658
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: defense and he's like, we got to be better tacklers.

1659
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like saying our point guards need to

1660
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 1: be better passers, you know what I mean. I mean

1661
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 1: things like that I think the thing that becomes frustrating

1662
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 1: and frustrates the fan base is the fact that a

1663
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: lot of what the Colts apologize for is oftentimes what

1664
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: it is that we have been trying to point out

1665
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: for a long time. And and so when you point

1666
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: something out and you're told, no, that's not right, No,

1667
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: that's not right. I know better than you, I know

1668
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: better than you. And then it's you know what, Actually

1669
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: it's this, and you're like, well, wait a minute, that's

1670
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I said. Eventually, I think that

1671
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: wears out with people. But again, new season, clean slate,

1672
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: right are we?

1673
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 7: Oh?

1674
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:31,839
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta bring a packhake?

1675
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: What's that?

1676
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: I gotta have it on the I need to get

1677
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: it on our hockey page.

1678
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 1: Our hockey page, Hot to keep page, or.

1679
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's where the breaking news standard, your awful analogy,

1680
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: your brain drops. Oh and of course my personal favorite.

1681
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: On by the way, this from Paula Baaleman, who I

1682
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: saw a bar naked ladies, not a strip club at

1683
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: the concert sixty two, sixty nine and one. He can't

1684
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: hide anymore. But we've been saying that for a while though, right.

1685
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 2: But hey, is it this time of the year where

1686
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 2: we need to have this on the ready at all times.

1687
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, clean, some think up right, that's exactly right.

1688
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen's favorite phrase, got to clean it up, baby,

1689
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: got to clean it up.

1690
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 2: And then later in the year be like we got

1691
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 2: to work that out. So we had the jackhammer the

1692
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 2: that's right, Well, that one will have to work itself out.

1693
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 1: The I'm telling you the over the course of the year,

1694
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how long people's patience, you know, goes.

1695
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't have to go back and listen to that.

1696
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 2: But we got a well look, yeah.

1697
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, we all have our catchphrases, our quirks, no

1698
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 1: crutch words, phrases are crutch phrases. Yeah, that we rely

1699
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 1: on too much. We all do. I mean I do

1700
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: as well. I have it when I broadcast races, you know,

1701
01:31:58,400 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: car links, that kind of thing. I mean, we all

1702
01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 1: have it. But Chris Ballard's absolutely is look, yeah, look

1703
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: we got a da da da. Look we got a

1704
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: da da da. You know always you know what I mean,

1705
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 1: Like virtually every answer he gives is that Eddie. You

1706
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: were named after Eddie van Halen, Correct, Yes, I was,

1707
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: so does that mean that your parents were fans of

1708
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 1: that genre. In other words, are your parents, for example,

1709
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: fans of Ozzy Osbourne?

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01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 2: I think so, I think my dad certainly. I'm not

1711
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 2: so sure on my mom if she was or is

1712
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 2: or not?

1713
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: So. What about Three Dog Knight? Because we have tickets

1714
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: to give away for Three Dog Knight that the Who's

1715
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Your Lottery Free Stage at the Indiana State Fair taking

1716
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: place on August the first, August the first, we will

1717
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 1: give them away to call her number five since Anthony

1718
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 1: Richardson was a topic today, call her number five Jersey

1719
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: number five, two, three, nine, ten seventy if you would

1720
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: like to go see three Dog Night? If the Who's

1721
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Your Lottery Free Stage? We have a four pack of

1722
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: tickets to give away for the Indiana State Fair August first.

1723
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: JMV is in John can I.

1724
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 8: I'm doing the Jammie takeover from I'm a State Fair

1725
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 8: in the tap room.

1726
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: Was gonna be all Ozzy Osbourne?

1727
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 10: Uh?

1728
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 8: This weekend probably will be a lot now, I'm sure

1729
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 8: a big SkyPoint that's significant in music history right there.

1730
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 3: He's the creator.

1731
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 1: Of heavy metal? Is he not huge?

1732
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 4: Yeah? Keep him?

1733
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean he And here's what's interesting, John, And

1734
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 1: you tell me you might disagree with me on this,

1735
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 1: but I was just saying, like when when Ozzy Osbourne

1736
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: was at at his apex with Black Sabbath, Yeah, it

1737
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: was the and I don't even know what you would

1738
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,799
Speaker 1: satanic is the wrong word, right, but like a cult.

1739
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 1: It was like this music of the cult. I was like,

1740
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: I was scared of it. Was exactly what I was

1741
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: going to say when I was little, I was like

1742
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: scared of it. Right, it was like, oh my.

1743
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 3: Gosh, I didn't want to look at the bark of

1744
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 3: the moon.

1745
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 1: That is exactly correct. That is exactly correct. And then

1746
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: certainly in the early nineties with Road to Nowhere, And

1747
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think Sharon Osborn gets a lot of

1748
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: credit here, but he he morphed into in his solo

1749
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: career and then into the reality show a very likable,

1750
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 1: almost sympathetic figure.

1751
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 4: Right.

1752
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 8: Oh, I mean it is in a way we have

1753
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,679
Speaker 8: seen both Snoop Dogg and Ice Cube morph into something

1754
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 8: that they did not at all start out being in

1755
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 8: our minds.

1756
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: Right, That's exactly I mean.

1757
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 8: And that's just I think what's with maturity and age, right,

1758
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 8: and also with opportunity to make money so maturity and age.

1759
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 8: I'm not morphing into anything. I'm still twelve years old.

1760
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 8: But no, it's it's a significant deal. What's your favorite

1761
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 8: Ozzie song?

1762
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 1: I love actually, Mama, I'm coming home to your favorite?

1763
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's yeah, I'll mark at the Moon,

1764
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 8: Crazy Train, shot in the Dark.

1765
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 1: What did you play the other?

1766
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 4: Uh?

1767
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: No more Tears. No More Tears is a great one.

1768
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: You played a Black Sabbath song on the takeover this,

1769
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: I think because Shannon was Shannon says, and I quote,

1770
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 1: We're in the car and she goes, this is it

1771
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: right here? This is the Ozzy's the best. Ozzy is

1772
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: the absolute best, and so I so I got a

1773
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: videotape and said, it's a John.

1774
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1775
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: She says, no, my hair doesn't look good. Yeah, so

1776
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 1: she's worried that her hair didn't lok good.

1777
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 4: Enough for him.

1778
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 8: Then that was his most at least with being popular

1779
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 8: on the charts. He and Leada Ford. Yeah, that song

1780
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 8: Closed your Eyes Forever. It was probably the most popular. Mama,

1781
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 8: I'm coming home. It's probably up there too, but I'm

1782
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 8: sure that that duet would lead a Ford is probably

1783
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 8: on the top of the list.

1784
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: Mama, I'm coming home, if I'm not mistaken. Was about

1785
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: him returning to Sharon Osbourne in like good faith, right

1786
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: and in good standing with her.

1787
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 8: Mister Crowley, great song. He's got a lot man biting

1788
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 8: head off a bat. So that was des Moines Iowa,

1789
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 8: was it not back? And didn't he any one?

1790
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 1: There have been a lot of conflicting stories on that,

1791
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: but allegedly didn't he He thought it was rubber or

1792
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: he didn't realize it was real.

1793
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:39,679
Speaker 8: He did not know it was a real bat until

1794
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 8: he had decapitated it with his teeth.

1795
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 4: Brutal.

1796
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he surely he would have had to have gotten

1797
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: like Raby shots and stuff, right.

1798
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 8: I would have to think that that's really not hygienic

1799
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 8: at all, not a good Laura Steele is going to

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01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 8: join me today at four point thirty and because we're

1801
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 8: going to talk a little bit about obviously Brickyard this

1802
01:35:55,960 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 8: weekend and and her her stuff at Bullseyeould the Colts.

1803
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 8: But you know she is a rock music person around here.

1804
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 8: A little bit about Ozzy with Laura a mutual friend

1805
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:06,719
Speaker 8: of ours.

1806
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 1: What else is on the Big Show?

1807
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 4: John?

1808
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: I think great Straw.

1809
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: I think Mark VanderMeer I think Mike.

1810
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 8: Drocco and we should go go from there. What are

1811
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 8: you out at Colts Camp tomorrow?

1812
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: Tomorrow?

1813
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 3: What do you got in the bag here from cluster truck?

1814
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: What's the chief Caseadilla? Nice? It's fabulous.

1815
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 3: I'll get get back on the salmon track.

1816
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: There you go.

1817
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 3: That's what I go in off the rails on the

1818
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 3: salmon track.

1819
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 2: I have the Korean barbecue salmon exquisite.

1820
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what squiz that?

1821
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: He says, the Korean barbecue salmon. Oh, there is exquisite.

1822
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Korean barbecue salmon.

1823
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 2: It's salmon, the Korean barbecue sauce.

1824
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. We did two.

1825
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 2: Uh caught up on yesterday too, Jacins. We didn't give

1826
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 2: hi away.

1827
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 1: Kevin and Roberts. Kevin and Robert, you're on your way.

1828
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: Three dog night. John's up next. We will be back

1829
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 1: with you at noon tomorrow. I think if you're listening

1830
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:55,799
Speaker 1: to Quarry Company,