1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Obviously unbelievable college game. Texas was fantastic. I thought both 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: teams deserve to win. Trey mount Mark was big time. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: Shot, clock down the fire, Art's gonna pull it the 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: lefty eight cases in. He's a big shot taker and 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: a big shot maker. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Swain made a hell of a play at the end 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: of the game. 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Sway turns a corner, swayed to one Texas. He's a 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: chip tied with a free throw. 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: I thought our three seniors here really hung in there, 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: and I thought we got good effort off our bench. 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: Our guys kept their composure. 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: We got a good shot there at the end. 14 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Eleven seconds to go, clock ticking. Here comes Braden Smith 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: over the timeline left or. 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 4: Right, bakes the screen from paupland or in coming downhill, 17 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: bringing Smith shooting at Banker. 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: No good tip here, takeoffing. 19 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 5: Then he tipped it into the basket with point seven 20 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 5: to play, point seven to play free quarter court shot 21 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 5: for Texas is no good and the Blue Boy the 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 5: Makers hard headed to the lead eight thanks to the 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 5: tip in from Tay Paffin in with seven tenths of 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 5: a second. 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: Remating and honestly left the hand. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 6: I thought it was in, so I was kind of 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 6: like hopping, like kind of like excitedly just I was like, yeah, 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 6: that's it. And then it took a weird balance and 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 6: it was off, and then I was standing under the 30 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 6: ram and Trey tipped it perfectly, and I was just 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 6: like thank God, like thank God. 32 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 7: That one coach always says that, you know, it's not 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 7: the sometimes a lot of times it's not the first 34 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 7: shot that goes. It's those tip ins at the end 35 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 7: of games. Like he said that, you know, my four 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 7: years here, So it's kind of cool to, you know, 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 7: actually experience that. 38 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: Only fitting that Trey Kaufman Red would see that last 39 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: play as being something that for four years he had 40 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: been told was a possibility, and then when it was there, 41 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: he was Johnny on the spot because that is so 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: symbolic of everything about this Purdue team, a four year 43 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: effort now that has them two halves away, one went 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: away from the final four in Indianapolis. Matt Painter you 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: heard from, as well as Braden Smith and Traycoff and 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Ran and of course the game winning call last night 47 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: in the Predue Radio Network from Rob Blackman who joins 48 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: us on the Java House. Colbrew coffee guest line from 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: San Jose rob before we get into the game, and 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: also where it goes from here. I will first ask 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: this from a television standpoint, it was almost impossible to 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: see that that tip went through, So I give you 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: massive kudos. I don't know what your angle and perspective was, 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: but like, from where we're watching on television, I'm like, 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: where did the ball go? And you were able to tell, 56 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: but I would imagine it was total mayhem. What a 57 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: moment last night. 58 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't it crazy? Because the ball was tipped 59 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: so perfectly at such a perfect angle, the net did 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: not move right as you saw on television. The ball 61 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: came perfectly down through the middle of the net and 62 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 4: didn't move the net. Yes, I could tell from my angle, 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 4: which was court sided, right across from the Predu bench, 64 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: that it had gone in the bucket. But my other 65 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: visual was the entire Purdue team jumping up off of 66 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: the bench. I could tell by their celebration that that 67 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 4: thing had obviously gone in the basket. But to your point, 68 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: I've watched the television replay a handful of times myself, 69 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: and you're right, it was hard watching on television to 70 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: see whether or not that bowl went in or not. 71 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: Rob, you touched on something there that I want to 72 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: elaborate on, and that is that there's a great photo 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: of Fletcher Lawyer, who of course is in the back 74 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: because he was at the top of the key and 75 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: was retreating and he's got his arms out when he 76 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: sees that ball go through, and Trey Kaufman Wren was 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: already turning, heading towards the other end of the floor 78 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: and kind of gave it just a little bit of 79 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: a fist bump. But I thought it spoke volumes of 80 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: the fact that Purdue's instant and immediate reaction was to 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: get into defensive positioning, not the players on the bench, 82 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: but the players on the floor. Is that coaching or 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: is that simply the maturity or is it actually both? 84 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, combination of both. 85 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: And look, when you have a team led by mostly 86 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: seen years, not all. But let's face if the leaders 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: on the team are the seniors and there's nothing they 88 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: haven't seen. I know we've talked about this, Jake before. 89 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: This is a team that has not only played for 90 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: national championship I'm talking about the seniors here, but has 91 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: also lost in a one to sixteen game, So they 92 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 4: literally have been at both ends of the gamut in 93 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: the NCAAA tournament. The other thing I think that gets 94 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 4: lost in this and give credit again to having a group, 95 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: even on the bench, that has a pretty good understanding 96 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: in the game of basketball. No one on that perdue 97 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 4: team came out onto the floor as far as the 98 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: bench players. That's been kind of a big deal in 99 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 4: this NCAA tournament. Teams rushing the floor after a last 100 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: second bucket. If you watch closely, the whole team has 101 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: their arms out holding one another back as if to say, Okay, 102 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 4: let's not screw this up by getting a technical foul 103 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 4: here with less than the second remaining. But to answer 104 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: your question directly, while it is a combination of both, 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: I think the fact that you have some real veteran 106 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: leadership and those seniors on the floor at that particular 107 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: juncture in the game speaks volumes of what that type 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: of experience could do for you, especially in this type 109 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: of situation. 110 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: Rob, you and I, and I'm going to do a 111 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: really bad analogy here, but you know you and I 112 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: both work together on the broadcast of the Indianapolis five 113 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: hundred mile Race. Okay, and there have been times, Thank you, Eddie, 114 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: there have been times. Is that the bad analogy? Sound Alreadie? 115 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: Is that what you're going with? I haven't even used it. 116 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 9: Yet, you know, I just had well you said you 117 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 9: had a bad one, so I went to play it. 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: Rob There are times at the end of the race 119 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: where you will interview, say a race winner or somebody 120 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: had a great race, and they will say, look, we 121 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: were able to get our car in position in the 122 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: end despite the fact that our second or third stop, 123 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: the car was not handling well, it was not running well. 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: We just had to fight through that aspect of the 125 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: race to then put ourselves back in position. Right what 126 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: player for Purdue right now do you feel like as 127 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: they go into the Elite eight is coming off of 128 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: a couple of stints that have not been their best 129 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: and now the hope is that they've gotten all of 130 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: that worked out and can make the proper adjustments and 131 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: get themselves back into the form that they were through 132 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: qualifying in the beginning of the race. 133 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 4: As crazy as it sounds, the guy that was just 134 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: named All American last week First Team All American in 135 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: Braiden Smith. The Beauty of Braiden is even when he 136 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: has a bad game, statistically, it doesn't look like a 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: bad game. But you think about the game against Miami 138 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: in the round of thirty two. He had a career 139 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 4: high eight turnovers in that game. Now he still had 140 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: eight assists and still scored the ball well. I didn't 141 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: shoot it well, but scored it well. So when it's 142 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: all sid and Denny, I think he ended up with 143 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: twelve points in that game. When it's all said and Denny, 144 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: you're like a fort a good game for Braiden Smith. Well, 145 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: as far as his standards, No, not a great game 146 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: for Braiden Smith. You know last night he's six of 147 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 4: sixteen shooting oh of three from three, missed a couple 148 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 4: of free throws, yet has sixteen points, five assists, two steals. Right, Yeah, 149 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: I like I'm speaking from Braiden, but I feel very 150 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: comfortable in saying that he would tell you the same thing. 151 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 4: He has not had a great NCAA tournament, but he 152 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: has still been a major difference maker for this team. 153 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: If he would take himself back to that magical level, 154 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: which we've seen him do numerous times in his career, 155 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: that would be the guy that could be the big 156 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: difference maker for Purdue tomorrow again. He'd be the first 157 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: to tell you he hasn't been great. Now he's been 158 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: good again. The beauty of an All American Even when 159 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: you're not good, you're still bordering on great because that's 160 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: what they do. But yeah, he's the one guy that 161 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: if he gets back up to his magical level, Purdue 162 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: will have a chance to knock off Arizona tomorrow. 163 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: When you look back at Arizona, I want to get 164 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: into that, because Arizona I think is outstanding, Rob. But 165 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: the tournament the thing that's weird. You know, I thought 166 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: Houston was playing as well as anybody in the country, 167 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: and then they get a couple days off and they 168 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: went out and they left their offense you know. I mean, 169 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say in Houston because they were playing in Houston, 170 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying. They left it at 171 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City. They did. They left at Oklahoma City. Okay, 172 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: for Purdue. Is it possible, Rob, that the best thing 173 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: to happen for this Purdue basketball team was between January 174 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: twentieth and January twenty seventh, when they lost three games 175 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: in a week. Did that force them? Did that? You know? 176 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: This is a team that there was so much praise, 177 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: so much expectation, and we wondered at that point where 178 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: there are chemistry problems. Were guys not getting along? Are 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: they just tired of one another? Did they need to 180 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: just kind of sit back and be reset. 181 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 8: Uh. 182 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: You not the first to ask me this question, so 183 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 4: you'll be one of the many to get a bad 184 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 4: answer here from me. But I don't know, I really 185 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: don't know. 186 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Or for that matter of late February, I mean they 187 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: lost three or four, right. 188 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, look for was two of two of their 189 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: last six going into the Big Ten Tournament, was two 190 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 4: and four limping into the Big Ten Tournament, and now 191 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 4: is ripped off seven wins. 192 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 8: In a row. 193 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, Jake, I 194 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 4: don't I know, winning losing regardless, Purdue just wasn't good 195 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: enough defensively. Matt Pater and the staff just kept carving 196 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: that to the team even when they were winning games, 197 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 4: that you're just not good enough defensively right now if 198 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: you want to do something special in the month of March. Now, 199 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: how they were able to get that point across right 200 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 4: before the start of the Big Ten Tournament, I'm not certain, 201 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 4: but obviously they found some type of magical elixir that 202 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: allowed the guys to buy into being better on the 203 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: defensive end, because that's where it's all started. 204 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 8: So while it's probably. 205 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 4: Easy to say, well, the losing streaks really got the 206 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: attention to the team, I can promise you even when 207 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: Perdue was winning, the emphasis from a coaching standpoint was 208 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: guys were just not good enough defensively. We can't keep 209 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: doing this, and it did eventually catch up to Purdue obviously, 210 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: So I would say it's really more about getting better 211 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: on the defensive end, especially communication and concentration, which are 212 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: the two words that coaches have been. 213 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 8: Using at nauseum. 214 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: Really more about that than even just the losing, because, 215 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: as I said, even in winning, it was pretty apparent 216 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: to everyone involved, at least from a coaching standpoint, Perdue 217 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: just wasn't good enough on defense. 218 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Rob what is their schedule today? You know, I think 219 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: when you look at you got to quickly turn around, 220 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: right and Arizona and I we're going to get into that. 221 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: But in terms of just the NCAA tournament and how 222 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: teams handle it, you get a big win like that 223 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: and you got to kind of regroup. But what does 224 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: Purdue what is the schedule today for predue basketball? 225 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: Sure, and again the beauty of having done this a 226 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: bunch with a veteran coaching staff, this is not their 227 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 4: first rodeo. They have a pretty good feel for how 228 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 4: they like to handle things with an itinerary standpoint, so 229 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: very similar to what Purdue has done in the past. 230 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: In these situations, Breakfast is at nine o'clock local if 231 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: you wanted it, you know, if you didn't want to 232 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 4: have breakfast, I'm talking players here. 233 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 8: Obviously, fat guys like me breakfast all the time. 234 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: But if the players want to wanted to sleep in, 235 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 4: they could because their first mandatory thing will be lunch 236 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: at noon, and then right after lunch is an hour 237 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 4: film session from twelve thirty to one thirty on Arizona 238 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: and then off the arena for a two hour practice there. So, 239 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: which is pretty standard. That's what Purdue has done as 240 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 4: they you know these especially the last three four years 241 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: where they've made deep runs in the tournament, that's typically 242 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: been the format. Some guys like to get up and 243 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: eat a breakfast. Some guys like that, We'll sleep literally 244 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 4: until eleven forty five and then show up at noon 245 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 4: for lunch. So but yes, that's how produce handled it, 246 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 4: at least in the last handful of years. 247 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: And then in terms of the film on Arizona, you know, 248 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: is there is there advantage to the fact that and 249 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: I guess Arizona to the same point could sit there 250 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 2: and watch that game last night before they go out 251 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: and play. But although they got you know, they got 252 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: to worry about Arkansas at that point, Uh, Purdue can 253 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: kick back and say, look, we know for a fact 254 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: we're going to be playing in the game and watch it. 255 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Does the team like, did they together watch Arkansas and Arizona? 256 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: And in addition to that, what do you think jumped 257 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: out at them about Arizona. 258 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: Well, they don't really get that opportunity simply and you've 259 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: covered enough of these things. When the game is over, 260 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: there's that thirty minute open locker room period and so 261 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: they're all doing the media stuff. So by the time 262 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: all of that is done, the game after you is 263 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 4: already at halftime. So now you're on the bus, you're 264 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: back to the hotel, you have a postgame meal, you 265 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: maybe you're able to catch the flight last five minutes 266 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 4: of the game. Maybe by the time you settle in 267 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 4: and get a television turned on. So I don't know 268 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: that any of our guys had a chance really to 269 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: watch Arizona. Now, the coaches have obviously been up all 270 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: night watching film after film on Arizona. And then the 271 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: coaches also, you know, again for your listeners at a 272 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: little bit savvy about college hoops, everybody knows everybody. So 273 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 4: all the coaches are on the phone with other coaches 274 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 4: who have played Arizona and said, you know, hey, what 275 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: did you think? 276 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 8: What worked well? What did not work well? 277 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 4: So you know, everyone's sharing information here, which the Arizona coaches. 278 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 8: By the way, are doing the same. This is no 279 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 8: great secret here. But really, the first. 280 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: Time the team will get a chance to look at 281 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 4: Arizona from a breakdown standpoint will be at twelve thirty 282 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: this afternoon. 283 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: What's an area that from what you can tell, Robin, 284 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: maybe it's early because they haven't had a chance to 285 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: get into that yet, right, But what jumps out at 286 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: you about Arizona or strength of the Wildcats that could 287 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: exploit weakness for Purdue. 288 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: Well, two things better keep them out of transition, actually 289 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 4: three things, better keep them off the foul line. And 290 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 4: you better not let them crush you in the paint, 291 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: because that's really what Arizona is all about. They average 292 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: eighty six points a game, they are second in the country, 293 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: and made free throw attempts because they get to the 294 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: ligne all the time, twenty points a game from the 295 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: free throw line. Literally a quarter of their points come 296 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 4: from the foul line per game. And then in the paint. 297 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: They are not Hopefully this doesn't come. 298 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 8: Back to bite me. They are not a prolific three 299 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 8: point shooting team. It's just not what they do. 300 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: Have one really good red hot shooter though right now, right. 301 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: Yes, one and uh, you know who was it, excuse me? 302 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: Necessarily needed? Last night they only attempted a threes against Arkansas. 303 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 4: They lived in the paint against Arkansas and made. 304 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 8: It look easy. 305 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: So again, it's a lot easier for me to sit 306 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: here and talk about it than for people to execute 307 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: it on the floor, much more difficult task. But you're 308 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: gonna if Arizona just lives in the paint tomorrow night, 309 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: it'll be the end of the season for Purdue. And look, 310 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: by the way you look at an Arizona roster. McDonald's 311 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: all American McDonald's all American. McDonald's all American. They are 312 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: not fully of talent. Uh So Purdue's going to have 313 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: to find a way to again try to try to 314 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 4: find some deficiencies in that Arizona offense. Hopefully it's the 315 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: fact that they're not a good three point shooting team, 316 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: at least percentage wise, and maybe Purdue can make a 317 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 4: few threes. They only made four threes last night. 318 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 8: Think about that. 319 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: You win an e lead eight game, part of me 320 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 4: a Sweet sixteen game, and you only make four to 321 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: threes often the same guy and produce one of the 322 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: best three point shooting teams in the country. So hopefully 323 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 4: PLU has some makes coming their way tomorrow night, and hopefully, 324 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: fingers crossed Arizona might not find their way into three 325 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: point shooting efficiency. 326 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: Is it possible in twenty twenty six? Rob Blackman, my 327 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: guest the voice of the boiler Makers for Purdue Radio 328 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: the Perdue Radio Network. Is it possible? 329 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 8: Rob? 330 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: For a freshman in twenty twenty six in an era 331 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: where guys are playing thirty games and they've played two 332 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: hundred AAU tournaments and championships and camps at all of that? 333 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: Is it possible for freshmen at this point in the 334 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 2: year to get rattled by the stage. 335 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: Well, considering all the freshmen on Arizona's roster that play 336 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: major minutes, I sure hope so fair, But man, there, gosh, 337 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: darn there's well. I suppose I want to say yes, 338 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: But then I watched Darius Acuff last night. He was 339 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: really the only good player Arkansas put on the floor 340 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: last night, and he was a freshman. He made it 341 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: look easy. I suppose it has more to do with 342 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: the actual player himself and than just the fact that 343 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: they're a freshman. But dag gone that Braydon Burry's the 344 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: freshman for Arizona. Man, see, he is spectacular and he's 345 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: only missed. I think they said four threes this entire 346 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: NCAA tournament. 347 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 8: He's sixty. 348 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to shoots a wel from three to 349 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: one guy, but CoA pete. I mean, he doesn't look 350 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: like a freshman, getting me six eight two thirty five. 351 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: Freshman aren't supposed to look like that. So at Kartschakov, 352 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: the other freshman from Germany, doesn't play like a freshman. 353 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: So I don't know, Jake, I maybe twenty years ago, 354 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: freshmen were intimidated by the big stage. These guys don't 355 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: see to be intimidated at all anymore playing at this level. 356 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: I was two thirty five freshman year of college, but 357 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: I was six four and I entered at two o five. 358 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: That's the problem, right, So. 359 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 8: He did You didn't put on good You didn't put 360 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 8: on good rate. 361 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: Now, I didn't put on the freshman fifteen. I put 362 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: on the Pressian the freshman like pizza shuttle thirty, right, 363 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: you know, I mean it's okay, though, Yeah, I understood 364 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: Lawrence Kansas. I mean it was in Chicago's pizza, you know, 365 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but it was. It was good, 366 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: and it was inexpensive. Rob. Lastly, you're around Rob Blackman, 367 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: my guest, and I always find these answers to be interesting, 368 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: So no pressure here on coming up with an interesting answer. 369 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: But you're around this basketball team in a different way 370 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: than really any other media member. You're on the bus 371 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: with them, you see them on the airplane, you see 372 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: them in the lobby of the hotel. You see him 373 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 2: after wins, you see him after losses, and you see 374 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: them when they're building to this point, you know, the 375 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: two days or whatever it might be in the middle 376 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: of September and October when the weather's starting to turn 377 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: dreary and you're getting homesick. In all of those things, 378 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: when you look back, I'll ask you this question the 379 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: way I asked somebody yesterday. You ever see rob one 380 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: of those like now they have them? You know, a 381 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: digital that people have on their desk that just scrolls 382 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: through a different snapshot every fifteen to ten twenty seconds. 383 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: You know I'm talking about. Yeah, if you had one 384 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: of those, of your memories and recollection of this Purdue group, 385 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: do you have a particular moment in that digital frame 386 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: that very few people saw, but you did, and you said, 387 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: that's what makes this group different? 388 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 4: Who put me on the spot here off the top 389 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: of my head. If we're going with the digital frame 390 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: reference here, and I needed something that would forever be 391 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 4: in my memory banks forever, I would have two frames. 392 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: The first would be the look of dejection in the 393 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 4: handshake line after that loss to Fairley Dickinson when this 394 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: group was we're freshmen, because that was a depressing day 395 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: as someone associated. 396 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 8: With Purdue basketball. 397 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: I would then follow it up with last night's last 398 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: night's picture that you were speaking of a Fletcher lawyer 399 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: standing in the background with his arms raised after the 400 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 4: tip went in. Those with the two, with the two 401 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 4: I would put side by side, they would probably perfectly 402 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 4: sum up this group of seniors. As I said earlier 403 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: in the conversation, they have literally been at both ends 404 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: of this thing from a NCAA tournament standpoint, and oh, 405 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 4: by the way, along the way, they've continue to win 406 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 4: at a high level. And then look, I understand Zach 407 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: Eaty really helped when they were sophomores, make no mistake 408 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: about that. But this group of seniors, Jake and we're 409 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: talking about the three that obviously have been here the 410 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: whole time. They've won twenty nine games a year on 411 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: the average in their four years. 412 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 8: Now. 413 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: I think fans maybe don't understand how hard that is 414 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: to do in major college basketball. Even if Perdue loses tomorrow, 415 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: this senior group will have averaged twenty nine wins a 416 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: seasoned in their careers. All four are a part of me. 417 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 4: All three of them are in their top twenty history 418 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: all time scoring in Purdue basketball. Braden Smith obviously the 419 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: all time leader in the history of the NCAA and 420 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: career assists, Fletcher Lawyer, all time leader in the history 421 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: of three point baskets made of Purdue. 422 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 8: All the individual. 423 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: Accolades aside, and by the way, Trikoff Marin has etched 424 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: himself in perdue memory forever with his chip in last night, 425 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: all the individual things put aside, twenty nine wins a year, 426 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 4: two Big Ten regular season championships, two Big Ten Tournament championships, 427 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: and you've been to the Final four at least once, 428 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: at least once, hopefully twice. But anyway, to get back 429 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: to the answer, those would be the two pictures I 430 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: would have side by side summing up how low it 431 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: was for them at one point in their careers and 432 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: now how they have really flipped a one hundred and 433 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 4: eighty degrees before they graduated. 434 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: We will see what happens next with Arizona coming up 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: for the Boilers. Rob Blackman will be on the call, 436 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: and I will make this prediction. Rob Okay, no pressure here, 437 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: but I'm going to guess that should Purdue beat Arizona 438 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: and punch their ticket back to Indianapolis, that there will 439 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: probably be a Rob Blackman call to start off the 440 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: show coming up on Monday. But no pressure on that. 441 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: Right, oh Man. See now I'm all nervous. I wasn't nervous, 442 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: and now I am. 443 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: That's right. Well, hey, all I got to say is 444 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: just make sure you get plenty of sleep because breakfast 445 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: is at nine should you choose to have it. 446 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 8: I never ever missed breakfast. 447 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: Rob appreciate the time as always. 448 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 8: All right, Jake, thank you. 449 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: That's Rob Blackman joining us on the program. And when 450 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: it comes to playing in the final four at Lucas 451 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Oil Stadium, and it comes to being in the right position, 452 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: our next guest on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest 453 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: line is to put his Butler Bulldogs back in position 454 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: to do exactly that. But playing in a final four 455 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: in Lucas Oil Stadium. He knows a little about that 456 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: as well and effective a couple of hours ago. Now 457 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: officially he is the head basketball coach of the Butler Bulldogs, 458 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: and Ronald Nora joins us on the show. Coach. First off, 459 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: welcome back to Central Indiana. 460 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: Thank you, Phil. Phil's great to be back, great to 461 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: be back at Butler and be back in this great state. 462 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: You know you. I want to get to a couple 463 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: of things here, okay, But first off, you just have 464 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: and I can see it right there, and we talked 465 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: to Matt Howard about this. You have a positive energy 466 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: that comes through the telephone and comes through the radio. 467 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: Where does that come from? 468 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 3: I believe it's a gift from God. I've been given this, 469 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: But I've had a lot of people in my life 470 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: that have fostered it, starting with my dad who passed 471 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 3: away in two thousand and three, who was just an 472 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: exceptional leader, a pastor, the one that talked me about 473 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 3: speaking well, holding my chin up, my high school coaches, Brad. 474 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: There's been so many people in my life who have 475 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: poured into me and made me who I am today. 476 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: This particular opportunity Ron And look, you have obviously coached 477 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: here in Indiana, and it is interesting, You've got to be. 478 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: There can't be a lot of coaches that would be 479 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: able to say that they have coached in the state 480 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: of Indiana at the high school level, the college level, 481 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: and the professional level. 482 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: Right, that's right. 483 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: But you know Brownsburg, the Celtics, obviously, Northern Kentucky the 484 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: g League, and then back with the Pacers, the Atlanta 485 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: Hawks most recently. How did this all come together? Can 486 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: you take me through the timeline and the conversations of 487 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: when it first was broached about you becoming the coach 488 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: at Butler. 489 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was quite the process. Obviously sad retiring, 490 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 3: you know what, an absolute legend of a coach, a 491 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 3: great ambassador for college basketball and for Butler in general, 492 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 3: and him retiring and a little bit he retired, Butler 493 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: reached out with interest in me becoming the coach, and 494 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: it was a it was a long, grueling process of 495 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 3: multiple interviews, multiple conversations to share my vision, what I 496 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 3: believe about coaching, how I believe Butler can go to 497 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: new heights and uh concluded a couple of days ago, 498 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: and it's just been a great whirlwind since being back here, Uh, 499 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: seeing so many familiar faces and getting to meet a 500 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: lot of new faces as well. 501 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: Did you have conversation with that Moda throughout the process? 502 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 3: I did not speak with that throughout the process, but 503 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: have been able to speak to that since and I'm 504 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: so happy that he is sticking around. Obviously, me making 505 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: this transition from the NBA to college is a transition, 506 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: and to have someone of coach coach modest caliber and 507 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: acumen to be here and to be able to connect 508 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: with and learn from is really really vital for me 509 00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: and making the strange. 510 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: What do you think are the biggest challenges of this job. 511 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 3: That's a great question. I think just making sure that 512 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: we are really clear about the kind of people that 513 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: fit at this university and at this program. We've got 514 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 3: to be super clear about that. We have to be 515 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: unwavering about that so that our fans, our supporters, our students, 516 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: our school knows that we're bringing in people here that 517 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 3: are going to fit Butler, fit the values of Butler, 518 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: and be able to compete at the highest level. 519 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: And what about you know Danny Hurley And I'm sure 520 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 2: you know this, Ronald Ronald Nord's my guest, the new 521 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: head basketball coach at Butler, Danny Hurley after Connecticut and 522 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: Butler played this year at Hankole kind of went to 523 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: bat for Fat Mada and basically saying, look, Butler's got 524 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: to up the ante here in the resources. It's the wild, 525 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 2: wild West. It's a different Butler than even the one 526 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: Ronald nor had played for. Were you aware of Danny 527 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Hurley's comments when he made them? And is their truth 528 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: to the fact that if Butler is going to compete 529 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: and that sort of League. Yes, you got to get 530 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: great players, but unfortunately, in today's world that means a 531 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: difference in resources than just simply like the tradition and 532 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: the value of it. 533 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was aware of the comments, but again, I 534 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: think number one, the reason I came here is because 535 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: of our president, President Danko, and our ad Grant Line Decker. 536 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: Grant Line Decker is a worker and what he's doing 537 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: for this athletic department in general and this program specifically. 538 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 3: I really believe in I see the vision. I believe 539 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 3: in the vision. Butler is not anywhere else. Butler is different. 540 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: And there's no question that you have to have the 541 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: resources to be able to compete at the highest level. 542 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 3: But I think when you really peel back the layers 543 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 3: of successful teams in college basketball, yes, but in sport 544 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: in general, you have to have a group that is connected, 545 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 3: that knows who they are, and that are moving in 546 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 3: the same direction. So everything that we do will be 547 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: geared towards that, and we're going to bust our butts 548 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 3: and make sure that that's really clear. 549 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 2: I've always wondered this, and I've asked a lot of 550 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 2: coaches this question. Okay, when you are a player, and 551 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: you were. I mean, the thing about your group and 552 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: you know this between you and you know Shelvin Mack 553 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: and Matt Howard and you know Gordon everybody. The thing 554 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 2: that made you guys I thought so unique was you 555 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: always anticipated where the ball was going to be. You 556 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: were always a step ahead. A lot of that maybe 557 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: as Brad Stevens, and a lot of that was the 558 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: chemistry amongst you guys, But basketball was very instinctive, seemingly 559 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 2: to you as a player. Is it then difficult from 560 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: a coaching standpoint because of the fact that you automatically 561 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 2: assume that players have the same instinct that you did, 562 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: And yet that's a hard thing to teach if a 563 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: guy doesn't have it. Is that a challenge in coaching? 564 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: It can be a challenge. I think one thing is 565 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: to not make assumptions, and I think you know, in 566 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 3: addition to that, really get to know your guys. And 567 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: one thing that intrigues me about coaching in college is 568 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: that we get the opportunity to recruit guys and recruit 569 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: guys that fit who we want to be and how 570 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: we want to play. Those teams that we played on 571 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: that coaching staff did such a great job of being 572 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: clear about identifying that that those things were in lockstaff. Now, 573 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: it takes training, it takes work, it takes practice, it 574 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: takes preparation, It takes all those things for that to 575 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: be able to mold together. But you have to start 576 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: at that point, and then we have to teach our 577 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: guys what that looks like to be on the same page. 578 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: We got to be very clear about that and what 579 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: that looks like, and we have to just train that 580 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: at a high level. 581 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: Coaching in high school, coaching in the G League, coaching 582 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: in college, coaching at the NBA, Which one do you 583 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: think most authentically represents teaching the game of basketball? 584 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: I love coaching in high school. It was a great experience, 585 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: especially in this state with the level of coaches. I 586 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: mean every night was difficult. The NBA because of the 587 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: level of player and how much you have to be 588 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: invested in that player and how important it is for 589 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: them to understand that you were making them better. The 590 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: level of teaching that takes place there, I think is 591 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: is that's probably the NBA. You have to teach well. 592 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 3: You have to know you're doing because it's a players league, 593 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: and if you can't have the players by into what 594 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: you're teaching. It's very, very difficult to be successful in 595 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: that league. 596 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: What was your favorite thing about coaching in the NBA? 597 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: Oh Man, the competition. I mean, every single night you're 598 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: playing against the best players in the world. And I 599 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: used to have a phrase when NBA players did things 600 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: that only NBA players can do. I used to say, like, 601 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: let's not normalize that. What these guys do on a 602 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: data today basis and the National Basketball Association is not normal. 603 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: And so to be around that, to watch guys work 604 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: at that level, it's pretty special. 605 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: What did it mean for you? Ronald Norid as my guest. 606 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: He's the new head basketball coach at Butler, where, of 607 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: course he was a fabulous player from eight to twenty 608 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: twelve for the Bulldogs and then a securitist coaching route 609 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: which has led him back home to Butler. Even though 610 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: I realize you're native to the state that I'm going 611 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: to tonight for Indycarr in Alabama. But what did it 612 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: mean for you to sit there at your press conference 613 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: and look out amongst the crowd and see those faces 614 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: from the Pacers organization that came out to support you. 615 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: That means everything. I mean, that just shows you the 616 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: kind of people that are in that organization. That's led 617 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: by Rick Lloyd Pierce being here, there were some other 618 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: people in the organization that just couldn't make it today 619 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: that would have been here if they could have. And 620 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 3: then going down to the players, I mean to have 621 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: Tyree's Haliburton sitting here, to have TJ. Mccot, Donald, Isaac 622 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: Jacob who's on the staff, That's what this is about. 623 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, we all want to win. 624 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: We want to win championships, but not everybody gets to 625 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 3: win a championship. So if that's the case, what is 626 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 3: happening in the meantime, and it's the forming and forging 627 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: of great relationships that hopefully last a lifetime that really 628 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: makes what we do as coaches special. 629 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 9: Ronald, you went from the Indiana Pacers to the Atlanta 630 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 9: Hawks and twenty twenty three, also joining that staff with 631 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 9: the Hawks. That same year was Mike Bray doing the 632 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 9: process of talking with Butler about the you know your vision? 633 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 9: How much did you communicate with Mike Brain just about 634 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 9: how different the college landscape is to compare to the NBA. 635 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: With his experience at Notre Dame, Yeah. 636 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: First of all, to be on the staff with Mike Bray, 637 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: an absolute legend, another absolute legend of coaching, was an 638 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 3: amazing thing for a young coach. Bray and I talked frequently, 639 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: often just about coaching at college basketball, what that looks like, 640 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: what it takes. And Bray has an exceptional ability to 641 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: connect with people, and that was one of the things 642 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: that through talking with him that I learned is absolutely 643 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: necessary to be able to attract the kind of people 644 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: that you want, attract the kind of players you want. 645 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: And we talked all the time. We talked to the 646 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 3: process and Bray was very, very helpful in that process. 647 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: Do you think Quinn Snyder's the most fashionable coach in 648 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: the NBA? I think he just I was. I covered 649 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: Quinn when he was at Missouri and he was a 650 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: younger guy. But now that he's in the NBA, like 651 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: he's got a little bit of style about him, doesn't he. 652 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: He's got a lot of style about him. But you 653 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: know what, with the style comes a lot of substance too. 654 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: And I owe him so much for the opportunity to 655 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: work with him, work for him, learned from him. He 656 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: is an absolute special coach. 657 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 2: What sort of things did you learn. Let's say a 658 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: little nugget maybe from each coach that you can take away, 659 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 2: And we'll start most recently with Quinn Snyder, Like, what 660 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: was there something maybe offensively that he comes up with 661 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: or approach anything that you take with you. 662 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: Quinn is very, very very detail oriented. Every little detail 663 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 3: matters what we're doing offensively, how we're running the play, 664 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 3: how you should stay in a certain spot to execute 665 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: the play exactly. That's something I'll take away from him 666 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 3: Rick before him, Rick only focuses on the things that 667 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: are important, and I think that's so important in that 668 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: leadership position. And Rick does a great job of empowering 669 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 3: his staff to do great work and bring him fresh ideas. 670 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 3: That way, he's always staying current with what's happening and 671 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: is always able to connect deeply with everybody involved. 672 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: The coaches that will learn from you, Ron, In terms 673 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: of a staff, do you have ideas yet as to 674 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: who your staff will be? 675 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: I have ideas. That's definitely something in the work right now, 676 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: and it's a really really important aspect to my transition here, 677 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 3: and it's something that that I got to get exactly right. 678 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: We got to have the exact right. People that know 679 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: this place, that understand what it takes to win at 680 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 3: this place, and that can do a great job of 681 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 3: building a great team as well. 682 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: Have you seen and I have? 683 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 8: You know? 684 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: And I don't know how much. Here's what's funny to me, 685 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: Ronald Norid. Every coach I've ever met, and every player 686 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: I've ever interviewed, all says that they're not on social media, right, 687 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: which we know is not true. Coaches, I'll say it right, 688 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: I don't read that stuff, and then they go on 689 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: to tell you fifteen things that they're unhappy about that 690 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: they just read. Right. But there are people that and 691 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to say I didn't see anybody that 692 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: came out flat out and said I don't agree with 693 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: this hire at Butler. But I did see a lot 694 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: of people that said, when is Butler going to just 695 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: expand it and cast full net to see who all's 696 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: out there? You know now that they're in the big 697 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: East end, et cetera. Were you aware of some of 698 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 2: the i'll say cynicism in regards to your hire. 699 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 3: I was aware of absolute zero. I actually do not 700 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: have not gone on social media for years, so I 701 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 3: was not aware and I think what's important during the 702 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: process is being focused on the task at hand. That's 703 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: going to be the case here. You know, people are 704 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 3: going to say what they want, and it's on us 705 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: to block out the noise Somewhere. When I said to 706 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: Rick and about Rick, and focus on only the things 707 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: that matter. 708 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 2: What would you say to somebody that's like, oh, man, 709 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: I wish they'd have gotten somebody that was, you know, 710 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 2: a longer tenured college head coach. 711 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 3: I completely understand where that may come from. And I 712 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 3: think that I think that to understand that, uh, this 713 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 3: was this was quite the process for me. This this 714 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: was not This was not an easy process for me. 715 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 3: And I've had the opportunity to coach at a lot 716 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: of different levels, coach a lot of different evil. Although 717 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: I haven't been a head coach in college, I've had 718 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 3: the opportunity to be a head coach and grow as 719 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: a leader and understand what my teams should look like 720 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: and need to look like to be successful. And so 721 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: I went through the process, and I appreciate President Danko 722 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: and our ad Grantline Decker giving me this opportunity. 723 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 2: What about roster itself, because I mean, the reality is 724 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 2: I hate to say this, Ronald, but you know it. 725 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: I mean college basketball anymore. Part of recruiting is first 726 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: to recruit your own roster, and then you recruit you 727 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: know what else is out there? Right Do you have 728 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 2: an idea as to how much retention you'll have of roster? 729 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're working through that right now. Obviously, all the 730 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: guys here came to play for coach Mada, and so 731 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: this is a transition for them too. So I've had 732 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: the chance to talk to the team. I've had a 733 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: chance to meet with every single player. Those meetings have 734 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: been fantastic. This staff did a great job of recruiting 735 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 3: great people, and those conversations will continue, and we're gonna 736 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 3: we're gonna hit the ground running. We're already hitting the 737 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: ground running, and I'm looking forward to being able to 738 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: build something that's uh, that's sustainable here at this university. 739 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 2: Do you feel that there is more pressure now just 740 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 2: with the wins of change in college basketball in general? 741 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: And the Big East is a good league obviously we 742 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: know that. Is there more pressure with this right now 743 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: on Butler basketball as a whole? Or Ronald Norrid, I 744 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 2: think the. 745 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 3: Only thing that I can focus on is the task 746 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: at hand, and you know now that's you know, building 747 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: the staff, building building a team, and being very clear 748 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: as the leader of this program on who we need 749 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: to be. All the other stuff I'm just not quite 750 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 3: sure of because I'm focused on the task at hand. 751 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: Lastly, I want to get back into real quick if 752 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. And I could be wrong in this run, 753 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 2: because you know, I'm an older guy, So I forget 754 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: right if I'm not mistaken. You grew up in Alabama, 755 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: but I believe you had a family connection that kind 756 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 2: of cemented for you to come to Butler aside from 757 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: the great coaching and players that were here. Didn't you 758 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: have family or grandparents that lived in the area when 759 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 2: you decided to come here? Or did I make that up? 760 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 3: You're exactly right. So my mom is a graduate of 761 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 3: short Ridge High School. Right there, I'm Meridian. Her mom, 762 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 3: her three sisters, her brother all live here in Indy, Okay. 763 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: So it was a I grew up coming to Indy 764 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: and seeing them and coming around Butler, so to come 765 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 3: here as a student athlete was quite an easy transition. 766 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: It was great to have family around well. 767 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: And so with that, I wanted to just give you 768 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: the opportunity of this. I think all of us and 769 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 2: including you know, young people that are going to play 770 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 2: basketball at Butler, are young people that you're going to 771 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: try to get to come to Butler. You know, all 772 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: of us sometimes have to look back at our seventeen 773 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 2: year old self and remind ourselves of what our goals 774 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 2: were in order to reinvigorate from time to time or 775 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: to just capture where it is that we are. And 776 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 2: I'm curious just how often you allow yourself to reflect 777 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 2: while you have goals ahead of you on what it means. 778 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 2: Shortridge is a proud school. People that went to short 779 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: Ridge are very proud of the fact that they went 780 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: to short Ridge. And for your mom to see your accomplishment, 781 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: for your father to look down from above after losing 782 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: you know, or is life cutting short I should say 783 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 2: due to pancreatic cancer, you know, some twenty three years ago, 784 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: and your grandparents, all of it. What does it mean 785 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 2: for you now to be able to represent all of 786 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: that in what is one of the highest jobs within 787 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: athletics in this city. 788 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 3: That means everything. I mean, it means everything who I 789 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 3: am today is not possible without all those people that 790 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 3: you name, and the experiences that all those people I 791 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 3: brought to my life, you know, with my grand parents, 792 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: my grandmother here, my dad passing away when I was 793 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: just thirteen years old, watching my mom go through that, 794 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: having to go through that myself, having great high school 795 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 3: coaches that poured into me. This is not a day 796 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: of celebration for me. This is really a celebration of 797 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 3: everyone who's pouring into me, including all the people that 798 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 3: are here at this Butler University that made me who 799 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: I am. And so I am grateful for that. And 800 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: now that includes my wife Danielle, that includes my four kids, Avery, Kai, Jude, 801 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 3: and Campbell. I'm really really grateful for all those people 802 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: in my life. 803 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 2: Coach, I appreciate it. We had Matt Howard on as 804 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: soon as you were hired, and one of the things 805 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 2: we were talking about and just reliving the glory days, 806 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: if you will, and you know, I told him still 807 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: he laid the greatest screen in the history of basketball, 808 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: and he said, you know the thing about that screen 809 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: that was laid for Gordon Hayward to get that shot off. 810 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 2: He said it was robotic because we had gone through 811 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: that so many times and we had practiced even that 812 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 2: to the point where I knew exactly instinctively what to do, 813 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 2: and I do think for a lot of people, one 814 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: of the instincts of what to do for basketball was 815 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 2: to bring you back home, and I know a lot 816 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: of people are excited about it. I certainly wish you 817 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: the best of luck and we look forward to continuing 818 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: to have you on here on the program. 819 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, I appreciate it. Go Dogs. 820 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: Ronald Nora joining us the new head basketball coach for 821 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: the Butler Bulldogs