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Speaker 2: He had a pretty interesting piece on Anthony Richardson, and

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Speaker 1: for me to sit here and say, how does Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson not know how to throw the football? How do

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Speaker 1: you get to this point as an NFL player and

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Speaker 1: you've got to be taught to throw the football? Let

435
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Speaker 1: me get this straight. You're telling me that Harvard selected

436
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: you to run their biochemistry department and you're still trying

437
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: to memorize the periodic table. It's easy to say that,

438
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Speaker 1: but I think what we are failing to again register

439
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Speaker 1: is the fact that Anthony Richardson is such an athletic freak.

440
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Speaker 1: And I mean that in a good way, not a

441
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Speaker 1: bad way. He is so athletically naturally gifted that the

442
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Speaker 1: little things that a lot. There's two kinds of quarterbacks,

443
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: there's a quarterback that There's two kinds of diamonds. Right,

444
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: you got a diamond that grows naturally through process in

445
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: through pressure, and then you got diamonds that are made

446
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: in a lab. And the one that forms naturally from

447
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: coal through pressure, goes through all of the proper steps

448
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: that have to that it has to go through to

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Speaker 1: form into a diamond. The other one is just made

450
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Speaker 1: in a lab and pops out and it looks just

451
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Speaker 1: like the regular diamond, but it has no concept of

452
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: the pressure that the first one went through. They look

453
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Speaker 1: the same, but one of them didn't go through the

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Speaker 1: same process. And Anthony Richardson, to some extent, is almost

455
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Speaker 1: like a lab grown diamond. He just naturally, not naturally

456
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Speaker 1: because lab growns, you know. But he is so gifted

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Speaker 1: that I don't know that he is aware of the

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Speaker 1: steps that most quarterbacks have to go through, and so

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Speaker 1: he never had to learn because he was bigger than

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Speaker 1: everybody on the field. He was faster than everybody on

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Speaker 1: the field. And when you are that big and that

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: fast and you can carry the football and run the

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Speaker 1: football and do other such things like that, you don't

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Speaker 1: have to move the football by being a totally precise

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00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: on the ball thrower. And now he's having to learn

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Speaker 1: that because in the NFL, the speed, the gaps, the

467
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: collapse time of everybody else has caught up to what

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Speaker 1: normally separated him naturally. And that's the challenge that he has. Now,

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00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: that's why the Colts have been so patient on it,

470
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: because they're like, man, if he could figure that out,

471
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: look out. Because the tuck and run he's got figured out.

472
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: The long ball on the back foot he's got figured out.

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00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: But you've got to be able to do all those

474
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Speaker 1: other little things. And Zach Kiefer has the column about it.

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00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: There is a lot of speculation, Eddie about where this

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00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: has come from in the offseason, because didn't everybody and

477
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: their brother just naturally assume that Anthony Richardson was working

478
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Speaker 1: out with the same coach that had worked with Josh

479
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Speaker 1: Allen Chris has I believe is the guy's name that

480
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: was always the the assumption. And I think now and

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Speaker 1: Keifer will be able to when we talked to him

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Speaker 1: at two o'clock better get into this. But I think

483
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Speaker 1: what we're going to learn is that he has not

484
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Speaker 1: worked with him. But it does appear he's been better

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Speaker 1: in this camp. It does appear. But I keep going

486
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: back to you have to before you make that decision,

487
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Speaker 1: make sure that you are getting that this is the

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Speaker 1: real Anthony Richardson, you know, kind of like I let

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Speaker 1: me tell you what happened to me when I was

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Speaker 1: in high school. Intend do you ever have the police

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Speaker 1: have to call your parents?

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Speaker 2: No? So I was responsible. Jake.

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Speaker 1: I had one buddy when I was growing up. He's

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00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: a great dude. It's a great dude. It's like a

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Speaker 1: brother to me. My parents love him. But he was

496
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: he was a troublemaker. He was an instigator, not by

497
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: his own but he and I together were dynamite in

498
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: the match. It's a bad deal. Every time we were

499
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: to get like, we just we just came up with mischief,

500
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: nothing major, but just dumb stuff. So one night he's

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00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: over at my house. We're getting ready to go out

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00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: the summer before I think my junior or senior year

503
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: of high school was beginning, so like right when we

504
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: had our driver's license. I can't remember WHI year it was.

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00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: And my dad is saying to him, now, Chris, and

506
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm not saying any last names here. Now, Chris, you know,

507
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: you and Jake are like dynamite in the match, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can trust you. You're like

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Speaker 1: Eddie Haskell. You know, my dad's pretty keen guy, right well, Jake,

510
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean you're his son.

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Speaker 2: So Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, so thank you.

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Speaker 1: So Chris says, no, no, no, mister Querry, I've turned over

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00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: a new leaf. I'm the new Chris. My dad says, Okay.

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00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: We go out that night and that is the one

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00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: night of my life where the my social evening ended

516
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: with the men in blue and the women in blue

517
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Speaker 1: and the finest of Indianapolis calling my parents saying we

518
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: have your son. You need to come down to this day. Okay,

519
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: we're fifty two years old. Chris now has one of

520
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: the most respectable jobs and as an influencer of young

521
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: people that you could have. And to this day, when

522
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: my dad sees him, he's like, oh, look, it's the

523
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Speaker 1: new Chris. Turn over the new leaf.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Never let him live it down. But you can say

526
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Speaker 1: that you're new, you can say that you're changed, but

527
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you are. That's the bottom line, right,

528
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Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. Tony Stewart going to join us

529
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: in studio, going to do so shortly. We will find

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Speaker 1: out not only what he's going to do to try

531
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Speaker 1: to get himself that NHRA championship, about the US Nationals

532
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: coming up, but also his thoughts on this news with

533
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and IndyCar Series as well, A

534
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: lot to get to Bob Kravitz one o'clock hour, Zach

535
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: Key for two o'clock hour, quarrying Company here on the

536
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: fan nineteen minutes before the one o'clock hour. Jake Querry

537
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: along with Eddie Garrison. Tony Stewart going to be joining

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00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: us here shortly on his way in US Nationals coming

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00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: up August twenty seventh out at And you know what,

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00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: I got to ask Stuart, because I always get confused

541
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Speaker 1: by this. I always just say IRP, But I know

542
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: it's like I've got to get the correct term. Because

543
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: they've changed sponsors a few times, They've always been good

544
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: to me. I want to make sure that I'm doing

545
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: it correctly, you know what I mean. At one time

546
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: it was Lucas Oil Raceway. I'm assuming that is still

547
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: the case. Lucas Oil Indianapolis Raceway Park, I believe is

548
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: the correct title for that for the US Nationals. But

549
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: Stuart actually is going to be doing a dodge paint

550
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: scheme that the fans voted on, which is pretty cool

551
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: for that. Eddie, your mom went last night to see

552
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: sho heo Tani and then show Heo Tani said, uh no,

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00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Moss is that right?

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00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he had cramps last night. I'm like, really,

555
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: we're cramping up? What are we doing? Show hey now,

556
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: drinking enough water, getting enough pedia light? What's the deal here?

557
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: I went to that game on uh it Tuesday night.

558
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: I was like, oh cool, I get to see a

559
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: show Tony. Maybe he'll do something. Strike out, strike out,

560
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: strike out? Now where were the cramps?

561
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: Nobody knows, nobody really until last time you got you know,

562
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: he should have gotten you know what he should have done.

563
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: See this is I don't know what's going on with

564
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 4: the Dodgers training staff, but how did they not know

565
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: that you just get a couple of yellow mustard packets,

566
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Speaker 4: suck on those bad boys, cramp gone cross.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling no, listen, listen say it, say.

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Speaker 2: It all you want. Mustard is disgusting.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's great, but I'm saying, if you

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Speaker 1: take two mustard packets, bota boom, but a ban no

571
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: more cramps, guarantee woes. Huh pickle juice, same thing, same thing?

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00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: What do you think is it mustard? I would much

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Speaker 1: rather have pickle juice. You can drink it straight, right, Yeah,

574
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: but that's harder to carry, like you can't pickle juice

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Speaker 1: you got because you got to have the pickles in

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Speaker 1: the jar. So it's a lot harder in your pocket

577
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: if you're a baseball player to carry out jar pickles

578
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: in the pocket. But you get two of those little

579
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: mustard packets and if you're Phil Nekro, you mix it

580
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: an memory board. You're good to go, right cross, so

581
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, good to go, And that would have taken

582
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: care of the cramping problem. But the Reds came back

583
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: and got a win last night, right, they did nice.

584
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Speaker 2: Win last night from the Red Spencer Steer how to

585
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: go ahead triple? So yeah, win. They still are the

586
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Speaker 2: only team in Major League Baseball that has not been

587
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: swept this year. They still have not right, no thirty

588
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: five or thirty six series this year, no sweeping.

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00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: The Colts practicing tonight under the lights Grand Park, Westfield.

590
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: And this is a true night practice. This is not

591
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Speaker 1: a late afternoon practice that's going to go into dark.

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00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: It's a true night practice, Eddie to me, and I

593
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: think that's still on schedule. I understand that people are like, hey,

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Speaker 1: is it because do we know the forecast. Is it

595
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: supposed to rain later tonight? Let me check because I

596
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: don't know if that if they would move the practice. Hey, Jake,

597
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: did you just say pickles in your pockets? The jar?

598
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Get your mind out of the gutter, folks, Come on now.

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00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: Westfield looks good, just going to be a cloud. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it is only sixty eight one. I told you I'm

601
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Speaker 2: wearing the long sleeve shirt today. Seventy degrees or yes,

602
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: seventy degrees, yes, forty five degree difference from you one

603
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen yesterday, seventy today. By the way, Jake

604
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: got a couple of compliments via YouTube. You can also

605
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: watch us on Facebook and on x at one of

606
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: someone by the fan about your little long sleeved Jackie

607
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: got there the Adidas Oasis thing.

608
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: Are people being sarcastic?

609
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 5: No?

610
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: Really? Yes, really, people like the like the jacket. I

611
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: told listen, what's on the back of that bad boy.

612
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: That's the only problem. And we'll get into Colt's camp

613
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: and what I'm looking for tonight in just second here. So,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned when we went to the concert, and

615
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: I know people are tired of hearing about the concert.

616
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: I get it.

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00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: It was like a life changing event for me. But

618
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Speaker 1: when we went to the concert, I cannot emphasize how

619
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: big Oasis as a band is in England. I mean

620
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift times three. I'm not kidding you, Okay. So

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Speaker 1: they have a partnership with Adidas and they set up

622
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Speaker 1: an Adida's Oasis store in Manchester, a pop up stores

623
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Speaker 1: three stories. There were seven of them, just like if

624
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: you go to like Nike town On in Chicago. So

625
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: I went there and I bought this. This is an

626
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Adida's long sleeve, and my cousin got me one as well.

627
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: So I have a zip up and then this one,

628
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: and I thought it was super cool. It just has

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Speaker 1: the Adida's logo, it's navy blue and it just says Oasis.

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Speaker 1: The back I think is awesome. The only problem is

631
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: it's dated. So here's my question, Eddie. I'm going to

632
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: turn around. I want you to read the back, and

633
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: then I want you to tell me what the shelf

634
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: life is of the garment that I'm wearing.

635
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: Okay, And here's the thing.

636
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Speaker 1: And I realized that we're on radio, not on YouTube

637
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: or not on television other than the YouTube, but people

638
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: can see me, right now, like, if you don't mind

639
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: me saying, so this looks good, right, I mean, this

640
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: looks good and I model it well? I mean this, listen,

641
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: this is fifty two going on twenty seven here, okay,

642
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: but let me turn around and you read the back, okay,

643
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: and then tell me whether tell me the shelf life

644
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: of because I love this. I love it, But tell

645
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: me if it has a shelf life?

646
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: Okay. On the back it says the band with the

647
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: three stripes live? Is that everything? It says?

648
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So the live twenty five means the live

649
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: show in twenty twenty five? Right, So do I only

650
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: have like four more months?

651
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: I can wear this? I mean, I mean, you spent

652
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: money on it, Jake, you can wear wherever the hell

653
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: you want.

654
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: But would it look weird if you see somebody walking

655
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: around in a shirt like you know, yeah two or

656
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, how many if something has

657
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: the year on it? What is the number of years

658
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: that you have to wait before then you can break

659
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: it back out? And it's super cool because it's retro

660
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: as opposed to that dude's just wearing a two year

661
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: old shirt.

662
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, Jake, I think it's different because

663
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: it's an overseas commitment. You flew across the country to

664
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: go watch them performing. Maybe you wear it out next

665
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty six and somebody stuff You're like,

666
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: oh you went to you win sell Oasis in twenty

667
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: twenty five and in Manchester? How was it? Would I

668
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: recommend going.

669
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: By the way also, Eddie, I will let you and

670
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: you got to go to the bottom. There's there's a

671
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: whole don't read the whole text right here, but I

672
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: just got a text from Shannon. I would like for

673
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: you to tell me whether or not you find this

674
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: to be acceptable for radio broadcast. Okay, as we're talking

675
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: about this.

676
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: Nice to know she's listening today. She found out way

677
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: you do for a living?

678
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: That's right, Shannon found out yes or no on that text. Okay,

679
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: fair enough Colts Camp tonight under the lights at Grand

680
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Park and Westfield. Eddie, you will be looking for what

681
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: for this in terms of aside from the quarterback play,

682
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: I still.

683
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: Want to see what that starting outside a corner job

684
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: does now for Justin Wally considering the fact and still

685
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: what the status is moving forward of Juju Brints. I

686
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: mean it's pretty Obviously, Jalen Jones is going to be

687
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: sidelined for a couple of weeks just with that hamstring injury,

688
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: given the nature which he exited practiced earlier in the week.

689
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: How does Wally perform now that it may seem like

690
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: he is the front runner and his uh, the guy

691
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: he was competing with largely is now going to be sidelined, Like,

692
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: how does that affect? Does that change the way he

693
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: practices at all? How does obviously the two quarterbacks, how

694
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: are they performing? Does Anthony Richardson continue to ascend like

695
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: the way he has over the last week.

696
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Or does Daniel Jones take a step? Because we're kind

697
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: of what. I don't think Daniel Jones has done anything

698
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: to hurt himself, but he hasn't done anything to stand

699
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: out either, Right, He's just and maybe that's who he is,

700
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: and maybe that's perfectly sufficient. You know, when when New

701
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: York eventually punted on pardon the pun, Daniel Jones, maybe

702
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: that's because they were waiting patiently to see that step

703
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: that made him a franchise quarterback and just didn't see it.

704
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: And maybe he's a perfectly sufficient quarterback, but not a

705
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: We drafted him in the top five. The problem for

706
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the Colts is they have two guys on their roster

707
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: right now that mirror one another in terms of they

708
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: now have not one, but two projects. Yeah, and one

709
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: of them is going to have to hit, right.

710
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: De wegetus. Does one of the pass rushers have a

711
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: nice day today? Does Quitty pay have a nice day?

712
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: Does Lats You finally have a day where you're like, oh, look,

713
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: that's why they drafted him?

714
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: You know?

715
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: Defensive player in the night two is another one that

716
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean a lot too. Was the first defender drafted

717
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: in his class, right h. So based on that with Latt,

718
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: you have the highest of expectations. And yeah, called him

719
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: the best edge rusher in the draft.

720
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: You remember that he.

721
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Laughed, right yeah? And he had a swear word in

722
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 1: there too, Did he really did? Chris likes to swear?

723
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: Oh? He does.

724
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: Pottymouth kind of like the Chris that turned over a

725
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: new leaf and then got me arrested. We we you

726
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: know who else has a potty mouth? Pat Knight? You

727
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: can blame that on his dad that much. We know

728
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: that much.

729
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: We know.

730
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I agree with you that the quarterback competition to me

731
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: has overshadowed a couple of other areas. And I thought

732
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: it was interesting yesterday when we mentioned this with Joel Erickson,

733
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: and that is what about the linebacker spot? Yeah, you

734
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: know the linebacker spot. Zire Franklin is a guy that

735
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: has put up big numbers, but you also wonder how

736
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: much of that is system oriented towards kind of funneling

737
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: things towards him. And under a new defense, is he

738
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: the same? And I think he's a good player, don't

739
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: get me wrong, But is he the same player under

740
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: lou Ana Rumo's defense that he was previously?

741
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

742
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: And yet and who are the others that are going

743
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: to be around him? Is are there young players in

744
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: that situation that step in?

745
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: Right?

746
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, lots of perfectly sufficient quarterbacks have won Super Bowls,

747
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: That's true, And give me the definition or the poster

748
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: child of the he's just a sufficient quarterback that won

749
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl.

750
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: I would say the last one that we've had was certainly.

751
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Peyton manning the second go round.

752
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Villa. Outside of that had a quarterback that's

753
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: had a MVFA type year like Stafford, I mean he

754
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: was absolutely fas.

755
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: So Peyton and Denver is a good call. I think

756
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: you can make the case for Eli Manning right, Yes,

757
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: although he got super hot in the playoffs. Flacco Flacco

758
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: is absolutely the poster child of that. But what do

759
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: those what do they all have in common that that

760
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: Manning team in Denver the historical defense is correct and

761
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Colts have that. Is there

762
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: an area on this roster where the Colts are elite

763
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: across the board? Well, the secondary could be depending on correct.

764
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know that that.

765
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: But I think if you look even in today's NFL

766
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: and in that defense where you have elite level defensive

767
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: backfield play, you've got to have strength in the middle,

768
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: And we just don't know yet whether or not that

769
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: linebacking corps and then they're certainly waiting. It looks like

770
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: defensively they could be for sure a major upgron right.

771
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: It depends on Yeah, I mean, it's really gonna rely

772
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: on Jake. Can they disrupt the timing and get to

773
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: the quarterback. That's what it's going to come down to,

774
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: because we know lou and Rouma is gonna be aggressive

775
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: and blitzing. Can they just get home? Is gonna be

776
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: the biggest problem or the biggest factor, because if you

777
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: can't speed up that internal clock of an opposing quarterback

778
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: and just let him sit back there, then I don't

779
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: care who you are, you can pick apart any defense.

780
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: What key losses do you think they had?

781
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: Are there?

782
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Is there anybody that we're gonna say midway through the

783
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: year like man that was.

784
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Big Diowa Dangbo, just because of his flexibility and his availability?

785
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, because what's the best ability, Eddie? Availability?

786
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: That is correct.

787
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: The best ability is in fact availability. Tony Stewart is

788
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: available entering the building, so we're gonna go down and

789
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: grab him and bring him up. How's that, Bob Kravit's

790
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: one o'clock hour. Zach Keiffer coming up. In the two

791
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, we've got a little live golf to discussion.

792
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: We have tickets to give away, is that right, Eddie?

793
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Yes, we do, Jake. We've got some uh dropkick Murph

794
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: and Bad Religion tickets give away. That is Tuesday, the

795
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: ever wise Amphitheater at the White River State Park.

796
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: All right, we'll do that over the course of the

797
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: day today as well. But I do promise because I

798
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier and now officially Tony Stewart going to

799
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: join this other side. He is quickly emerging his way

800
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: up to the top for top fuel dragsters in the NHR,

801
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: just forty eight points out of the championship that he

802
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: is chasing, which would be because Tony Stewart, you've won

803
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: a championship and every single thing you've ever strapped into.

804
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 6: Right, We've been fortunate enough to win a lot. I

805
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 6: don't know about everything, but we've given it a shot.

806
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: It's good to see and I wanted to get to

807
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: this and I just think this is brilliant. And I

808
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: don't say that a lot about people from Columbus, but

809
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, I will do it right and rightfully.

810
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: So you know.

811
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: So the US Nationals, which for those that have never been,

812
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: I think it's just as an absolute bucket list item

813
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: in Indy, especially you know when under the lights, when

814
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: the I mean, it's awesome. It touches every sense and

815
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: I love everything about it. And when I I knew

816
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: that you were coming in town to talk about it,

817
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: I thought, well, wait a minute. The US Nationals is

818
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: always like around Labor Day this year August twenty seventh

819
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: until September first, and I love the fact that you

820
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: had the wherewithal to say, yeah, but we got to

821
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: let people know about it well in advance so people

822
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: can plan for it, which is so much smarter than

823
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: just like, hey, it's going to be tomorrow and people

824
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: already have their weekend plan.

825
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: Right.

826
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 6: So that's what That's what I've been telling Josh over here.

827
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 6: That's that's why we're here today. You're really spot on.

828
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean no, honestly because and I get that from

829
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: and this is what I like about it. I think

830
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: it shows that Tony Stewart is a racer, but yet

831
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: you still have the mindset of Tony Stewart. The kid

832
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: is a race fan, right, I mean.

833
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: The mother too.

834
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 6: I mean I have a dirt track, so I mean

835
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 6: we think about that from our standpoint of promoting our

836
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 6: races as well. So it is it's nice to come

837
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 6: in early and talk about it, especially knowing it's a

838
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 6: holiday weekend, so everybody's making plans as kind of the

839
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 6: last rah before summer's over. And and but it is,

840
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 6: you know, going to Indy for US Nationals. That's that's

841
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 6: the Daytona five hundred, It's the super Bowl, It's the

842
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 6: Indy five hundred for drag racing, so it's our biggest

843
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 6: race of the year, and for me it's a home

844
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 6: home race obviously, so it means that much more to me.

845
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 6: But yeah, you know, having the opportunity to start on

846
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 6: Friday night with a night qualify and run, there's nothing

847
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 6: better than watching nitro cars, the funny cars and the

848
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 6: top fuel cars run at night and seeing the flames

849
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 6: out of the pelievable.

850
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 7: It is insane.

851
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 6: So I always like the night qualifying sessions and then

852
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 6: we got you know, two more days of qualifying after that,

853
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 6: so it's definitely an awesome weekend. And you know, it's

854
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 6: it's just that marquee event that you circle it on

855
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 6: your calendar every year, not because it's a home event,

856
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 6: but because it's the biggest race for NHI during the

857
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 6: season and that's the one you want to win.

858
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: What fascinates me is this, you know on the air,

859
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: so Tony Stuart, you're in a situation where and I

860
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: remember the last time we talked, I think even you know,

861
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: when you first got into these cars, I don't know

862
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 1: that anybody the including maybe even you, knew how long

863
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: you would be running in the top fuel in NHRA,

864
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: and yet here you are and in this year, you've

865
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: already you know, you've already got two wins on the year,

866
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: you've advanced past round one and I think ten of

867
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: your eleven weekends, So you know what you're doing, right,

868
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: But that's not to say that you always knew what

869
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: you were doing. So how much of for this were

870
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: you enticed by the learning of it and the having

871
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: to chase something that was outside your comfort zone, which

872
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm assuming it's been a long time since you were

873
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone.

874
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're spot on. It was exactly that way. I

875
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 6: think kind of one of the variables that really helped

876
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 6: draw me into it was my wife Leah. And you know,

877
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 6: during COVIDS when we met, I started going to her

878
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 6: races when NHRA was able to start racing again. She

879
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 6: had went to my sprint car races before that, and

880
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 6: so she asked a lot of questions about the dirt

881
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 6: track side, and obviously when I started going to the

882
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 6: races with her, I had lots of questions, and every

883
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 6: week I had more and more, and it led to

884
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 6: going down to Frank holl He's driving school in Florida,

885
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 6: and then next thing you know, I'm testing her car,

886
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 6: which was the dumbest thing I've ever done in my

887
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 6: entire career, was go from a school car that runs

888
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 6: two hundred and twenty miles an hour to getting in

889
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 6: a three hundred and thirty mile an hour car. I

890
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 6: was definitely not ready for that and not prepared for it.

891
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 6: But you know, I ran a year in the top

892
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 6: alcohol dragster category with McPhillips family, and they raised sound

893
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 6: of Indianapolis here, and you know that got me a

894
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 6: lot more used to what I was doing. And I

895
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 6: still had the opportunity to test once in a while

896
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 6: in Lea's car when they needed me, and that got

897
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 6: me ready to win to side when Leah decided she

898
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 6: was ready to start a family when she got pregnant,

899
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 6: and I was the guy that stepped in. And I'm

900
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 6: just the replacement driver. So this I'm this guy with

901
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: NASCAR and IndyCar credentials, but I'm the replacement driver.

902
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: So parents now for eight months.

903
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, it seems like eight years, right.

904
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: I remember the last time we talked to you. I

905
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: think sleeping at night was like one of your concerns, right.

906
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 6: And it's continue to be a concern. It's still a concern.

907
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 6: I like talking to people that sleep through the night

908
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 6: and go tell me what it's like, because I can't

909
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 6: even remember what it's like to sleep.

910
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: Through the night.

911
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm old now, so I hardly do right.

912
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: But with that said, because that was kind of the

913
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: game plan, right, we'll wait and see once the family

914
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: starts how long I will be in this. Do you

915
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: have a better feel or read now on what that

916
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: outlook is.

917
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 6: I'm in the same mode that Lea's fans are. Lia's

918
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,439
Speaker 6: fans are asking when is she getting back in the car,

919
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 6: And I'm sitting on the side in the seat that

920
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 6: I really like being in right now and going I

921
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 6: wonder when she wants her car back, but it is

922
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 6: literally her decision. Honestly, it's whenever she wants to. She's

923
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 6: already been in the car this year in a test session,

924
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 6: and I have a feeling after watching her take her

925
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 6: helmet off and the smile she had on her face,

926
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: I have a feeling I'm a short term tenant at

927
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 6: this point.

928
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: Well, but at this point you're chasing a championship, so

929
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: you know you gotta carry that out.

930
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 6: Right, She most definitely will let me finish the season

931
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 6: out for sure. Because of the points, and there's bonuses

932
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 6: that go with that, and that that affects the crew

933
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 6: guy's bonuses at the end of the year. So a

934
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 6: driver swap mid season in this scenario is not advantageous

935
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 6: for anybody.

936
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: Which you've raised everything, right, I mean, whether we're talking

937
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: about you know, use X on dirt, whether we're talking

938
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: about IndyCar, whether we're talking about you know, cup cars,

939
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: which one of them, if any, is the closest to

940
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: the learning curve of getting in the top fuel dragsterr I.

941
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 6: You know, somebody asked me a similar question last weekend

942
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 6: when we were at Sonoma, and I said, ninety to

943
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 6: ninety five percent of the skills that made me really

944
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 6: good at what I did with sprint cars and IndyCar

945
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 6: and NASCAR put it in a box, tape the box up,

946
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 6: put save, and shove it off.

947
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 7: In a corner.

948
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 6: Because you don't use ninety to only five percent of it.

949
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 6: It's a different skill set, but there are some variables

950
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 6: that do tame and transfer over and it's actually things

951
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 6: that have helped me be good. And you know, anytime

952
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 6: that we have to pedal the car, for example, on

953
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 6: race day, it spins the tires. You gotta get the

954
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 6: tire caught back up and then roll back into the

955
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 6: gas real slow to not get the tire spinning again.

956
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 6: That is something that other drivers have said, I'm really

957
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 6: good at already, and that's.

958
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: The best at it a long time since you've sat

959
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: in the cockpit and not been, you know, immediately the

960
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: best at it.

961
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 6: Right Well, you wouldn't think that that's something that was

962
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 6: going to be a variable in the equation, But because

963
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 6: of what I did in dirt track racing and learning

964
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 6: how to catch the tire and keep it from spinning

965
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 6: if it does turn the tire loose, I've been really

966
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 6: good at catching it, getting the tire caught up, and

967
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 6: getting back in the gas and have won some rounds

968
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: that way. So to hear your peers that you're racing

969
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 6: against say he's really good at that, I don't know

970
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 6: that I'm the judge of that, but you know, reaction

971
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 6: time is probably the biggest thing for the drivers, and

972
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 6: I was fifth and average last year, and to me

973
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 6: that was a huge win. Because you had Tony Schumacher,

974
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 6: who's an eight time world champion. We were just ahead

975
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 6: of him. There were a lot of other drivers that

976
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 6: around drag racing a lot longer than me. That we

977
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 6: were outperforming on the reaction time side. But there's four

978
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 6: drivers ahead of us that were still trying to catch

979
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 6: and we're still trying to catch them. But we're closing

980
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 6: in a little bit this year. But it's hard because

981
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 6: it's not like you go outside and you make lapse

982
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 6: and practice that. I mean, it's like Guido Antonelli, that's

983
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 6: ron Kap's crew chief said. He said, reaction time is

984
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 6: exactly that. It's how your brain reacts to seeing that

985
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 6: light coming on and you hitting the gas pedal. So

986
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 6: it's hard to train for that. I'm sure there's probably

987
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 6: better ways.

988
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 7: To accomplish it, but I just haven't found them yet.

989
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, you strike me Tony Stewart. Tony Stewart, our

990
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: guest here in studio. And of course, as we mentioned,

991
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: forty eight points out from getting that top Fuel, taking

992
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: the top spot top Fuel. Big part of that's going

993
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 1: to be at the US Nationals coming up on August

994
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, that runs till September. First, you're a foight guy,

995
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: and by that I mean you're a guy that you

996
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: got about a thirty second window before you're ready to

997
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: grab a wrench.

998
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: If you have to write.

999
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: With this particular sport, is it the most mechanically inclined

1000
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: that a driver needs to be of anything that you've

1001
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: been in in terms of so much of to me,

1002
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just giving you an outsider perspective, and I

1003
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: know it's the case in every form of motorsports, but

1004
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: people forget what a team sport it is. But in

1005
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: this particular one, when you're there and you're going that speed,

1006
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: everything has to be perfect and so much of that

1007
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: goes to the men and women that are preparing that

1008
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: car for you. Is that the case? Are you as

1009
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: cognitive as aware of that as any time in your career?

1010
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1011
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean especially when you if you watch us

1012
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 6: on Sundays and even during qualifying. I mean will have

1013
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 6: two runs normally on each day of qualifying, and when

1014
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 6: that car comes back and the cadence and the procedure

1015
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 6: those guys, watching them tear the motor down and literally

1016
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 6: having it reassembled in forty minutes and ready to fire

1017
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 6: is amazing to me. If I can tell you this though,

1018
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 6: if I grab a wrench in that pit area, every

1019
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 6: crew guy watches me because they're scared to death for

1020
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 6: me to touch the rist car of the Rents right now.

1021
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 6: But it's super important. Every one of them is specialized

1022
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 6: in their field. So whether it's the guy that's assembling

1023
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 6: the pistons and rods and he puts those in the motor,

1024
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 6: or if it's the guy that's building the heads, putting

1025
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 6: the valve springs and the valves in them, all these

1026
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 6: different things, they have to be really good at what

1027
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 6: they do because you know, nitromethane is a very volatile fuel,

1028
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 6: and if things go wrong in a nitrocar, it goes

1029
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 6: wrong big and theyre's big booms, big explosions, big pops

1030
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 6: when it goes wrong. So you have to trust that

1031
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 6: these guys are absolutely doing it the right way. But

1032
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 6: to watch them do an assembly in forty minutes is

1033
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 6: just insane.

1034
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: And you know, Tony, one of the cool things for

1035
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: folks that go out You know, if you're gonna go

1036
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: out there and you're gonna stop buy and you're gonna

1037
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: see the nhr A US Nationals, you get to see

1038
00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: all of it.

1039
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I me your ticket and you're.

1040
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: Walking around and I mean you're walking right there and

1041
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: you're seeing people taking apart engines and putting it right

1042
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: back together. And I mean it's not you're not seeing

1043
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: it from you know, the jay stand, You're right there.

1044
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that's one of the best things

1045
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 6: that NHI has to offer. I think that's why I

1046
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 6: tell people it's fun to watch it on TV. It's

1047
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 6: ten times better to go to the racetrack and be

1048
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 6: able to walk around, walk in the pit area. And

1049
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 6: when we say feel it, it's it's not reach out

1050
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 6: and touch.

1051
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 7: It, feel it.

1052
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 6: But when those cars go by, I mean, our motors

1053
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 6: make almost twelve thousand horsepower now, and when that car

1054
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 6: goes by, the concussion from the exhaust, you feel it

1055
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 6: in your body and you can't explain that to somebody

1056
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 6: what that's like. But it's really been fun the last

1057
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 6: two years for me, coming from indie car and NASCAR

1058
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 6: and dirt track racing. We've had all these fans start

1059
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 6: coming to drag races for the first time, and you

1060
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 6: catch them at the end of the day and you say,

1061
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 6: what do you think? And the most common response is

1062
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 6: we had no idea. That has been the most common response.

1063
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 6: They're like, we've watched it on TV, but until you

1064
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 6: get down there and you smell the fumes, you see

1065
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 6: the burnouts, you physically watch these cars go down the

1066
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 6: track in person. You cannot describe it to somebody, and

1067
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 6: they love it. And it's like I tell everybody, if

1068
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 6: you're a NASCAR fan, you can still watch NASCAR and

1069
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 6: watch drag racing. Same with indy cars, same with dirt tracks.

1070
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean you have to give up one to do

1071
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 6: the other. But it's really cool to see fans come

1072
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: out for the first time and enjoy it.

1073
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: You are a businessman, Tony Stewart, I mean in addition

1074
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: to racing. Obviously you own the team. I mean all

1075
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: you have to do is look at the partners you have.

1076
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 1: You're doing a dodge paint scheme for this particular weekend

1077
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: for the US Nationals. Fans voted on it. You've got

1078
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Speaker 1: Mobile I on board, You've got direct connection to Vance

1079
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: Auto Parks. You've got a ton of partners. Okay, the

1080
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: best media guys. I know you realize you do a

1081
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: better job at hitting my partners than I do. Well, Hey,

1082
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I got to hit I got

1083
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 1: This is the only time I hit the curb curve

1084
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: dot com by the way, right, Although I will say,

1085
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: if you and your wife can survive the fact that

1086
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: you're sharing a car, It's like when my girlfriend and

1087
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: I went to Ireland and I had to drive the

1088
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: car and she was a pastor and Ireland with me.

1089
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: If you can survive that as a couple, you survive anything.

1090
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1091
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 6: Keep in mind, I think we get away with that

1092
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 6: because we don't have to ride with each other.

1093
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 7: In that car.

1094
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: That's correct.

1095
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 6: If one was driving and the other was not, I

1096
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 6: don't think we would survive one round with.

1097
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: Each other, right, You're probably right.

1098
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1099
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: But so with the business aspect of it, I wanted

1100
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this because there was big business moves

1101
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: in motorsports today and I'm sure you heard it.

1102
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 7: I've heard, but I don't know anything about it.

1103
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: But go ahead.

1104
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: So Fox YEP, Fox Television or Fox Broadcasting now has

1105
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: purchased one third of the Penske Entertainment Group, meaning that

1106
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: they now have a one third ownership in the Indianapolis

1107
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: Motor Speedway, the Indy Car Series, and IMS productions. Your

1108
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: reaction is somebody who has obviously been a part of

1109
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: really all of those things.

1110
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 6: Like I said, I'm hearing it today as well. For

1111
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 6: the first time, and don't really know the details. We've

1112
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 6: been doing the car wash so to speak, this week

1113
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 6: or today, but I think it's I think it's a

1114
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 6: huge move obviously. I mean, that's a massive move that

1115
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 6: we've never I don't think you've ever seen a broadcast

1116
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 6: partner become a part owner in not only a series,

1117
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 6: but and I didn't know the Speedway was part of

1118
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 6: it as well. So for Fox to have part ownership

1119
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 6: in the Speedway, I think that is massive at this point.

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Speaker 1: And I would assume, I mean, listen, I'm no rocket

1121
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: scientist by any stretch, but for example, and I'd have

1122
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: to look at the contracts, and I know you would too,

1123
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: but you know clearly the T and T partnership with

1124
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: cup Racing at the Speedway, I would think that.

1125
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 7: Has to come to an end, right if you would assume, So,

1126
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 7: I mean, do you.

1127
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Do you see it? As you're a promoter, and I

1128
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: think at times, Tony IndyCar itself. You know, any promotion

1129
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: you can get for that series is important. Can a

1130
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: television partner be an adequate promoter above and beyond just

1131
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: promoting within their own network and stepping outside of that.

1132
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 6: I definitely think so I think this is a scenario where,

1133
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 6: and like I said, just knowing the little bit I

1134
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 6: know about it so far, if you've got a cast

1135
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 6: partner that is now part owner of a series, they're

1136
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 6: going to work even harder to promote that. They have

1137
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 6: all the other programming that they're going to have on

1138
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 6: the channel, but now being an owner in it, they

1139
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 6: have skin in the game, so they are going to

1140
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 6: put even more effort than they would have before.

1141
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: Did TV when you were racing Cup, did you ever

1142
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: feel that TV was too involved, just in terms of

1143
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: whether it be the schedule, whether it be the the format,

1144
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: et cetera. Was there ever an overstep?

1145
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 6: I think that was probably the only time I can

1146
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 6: think of a scenario where that came into play was

1147
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 6: the stage racing, And that was literally what I was

1148
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 6: told at the time, was because TV was asking for

1149
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 6: five percent more viewership time of the race. So what

1150
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 6: fans were doing is they were watching the first twenty

1151
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 6: five percent of the race. They were going and mowing

1152
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 6: their yard, going and get lunch and coming back and

1153
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 6: watching the last twenty five percent of it. I don't

1154
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 6: know what the significance of it was, but getting five

1155
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 6: percent more time, and I'm assuming it's in ad dollars

1156
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 6: made a huge difference to network, and that's what the

1157
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 6: stage racing was all about, was just to try to

1158
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 6: gain five percent more viewership.

1159
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: And I can't recall some part of my ignorance here

1160
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: that you were still racing that or not. Yes, So

1161
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: how did it change as a driver?

1162
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 6: The Wait a minute, I say that I was not.

1163
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 6: I was still an owner, but you were still an owner.

1164
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 6: So I was still an owner, but I wasn't a

1165
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 6: driver in that.

1166
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: And so did you? I mean, did you enjoy the

1167
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: strategy and the new strategy?

1168
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: Ever? Did you find it hokey?

1169
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 6: It wasn't traditional by any means, But I think as

1170
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 6: time goes on, you have to find ways to somewhat

1171
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 6: so to speak, reinvent. You can't just keep doing the

1172
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 6: same trick over and over. The purest and the traditionalists

1173
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 6: didn't like it, and there's a ton of people that

1174
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 6: don't like the stage racing, but it does create unique

1175
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 6: situations and scenarios where guys needing needing points sometimes would

1176
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 6: stay out and take a chance, and guys that we're

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 6: in a good place some points come in get tires

1178
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 6: before the pit's closed at the end of a segment

1179
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 6: and come back out. They might finish twelfth, but then

1180
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 6: when the pit cycle comes after that caution comes out

1181
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 6: at the end of the stage, then they got the

1182
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 6: lead back. So I think it did create some unique

1183
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 6: situations and scenarios that the fans could grasp onto. But

1184
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 6: you know, talking to a lot of the fans, it

1185
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 6: just wasn't as well received as we all thought it

1186
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 6: would be.

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Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, because I know you got a lunch to

1188
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: get to, so we'll let you run.

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01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 7: But I want I'm a fat kid. I like food,

1190
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 7: you know what I said, And I'm a fat kid.

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01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 7: I like you said.

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Speaker 3: You know what.

1193
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: Actually you look like you're not as much as as

1194
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 1: the last time I saw you, though I like you.

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01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 6: You realize why I got an eight month old son

1196
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 6: now crawls so you can't even turn around and blink

1197
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 6: without him being halfway across the room.

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Speaker 7: So you're just chasing that.

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01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: Extra twenty minutes. You're not eating, you're sleeping right, you're yeah,

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01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: you can't get tired, dam but I want to give

1201
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: you the chance. Here August twenty seventh until September first

1202
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: is the US Nationals. I love it. I've been to

1203
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: it many times. I think it's a must. But from

1204
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: your standpoint, I want you to use that microphone to

1205
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: tell the listeners of Indianapolis why they need to be there.

1206
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 6: I think starts Friday night. Friday night's our first run

1207
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 6: under the lights. Like you and I mentioned earlier, I

1208
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 6: mean you're looking at four foot to five foot tall

1209
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 6: flames coming out of each side of the motors or

1210
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 6: going down the racetrack. It is incredible sensation. And to

1211
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 6: see these cars at night is amazing. Two more days

1212
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 6: of qualifying. Funny Car has the call out this weekend,

1213
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 6: so you got a race with them, right, yeah, yeah,

1214
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 6: we're there, and then obviously Monday is the race is

1215
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 6: so you know, to be able to come out and

1216
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 6: see this. And like you said, every ticket gets you

1217
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 6: everywhere but the starting line. You can't get that at

1218
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 6: a NASCAR race. You can't go to the Indy five

1219
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 6: hundred and just buy a ticket to the stands and

1220
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 6: be able to walk in the garage area and see

1221
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 6: the cars and drivers like that. But not only can

1222
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 6: you go see and build these motors, the cars do

1223
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 6: warm ups in the pits and you can smell it.

1224
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 6: You can hear it, you can feel it. It's just

1225
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 6: an experience that it's hard to explain. But like I said,

1226
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 6: every time we've had new fans that have followed other

1227
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 6: forms of motorsports and they've came for the first time.

1228
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 6: They love it and they're hooked on it.

1229
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: It's like a kiss concert except for the music's good.

1230
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 6: That's the best way to say it, right, And we'll

1231
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 6: paint Josh's face up like Gene Simmons and preading through

1232
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 6: the through the ground.

1233
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: We'll get them all right, Perre all right, Hey, it's

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01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: always good to see you, Tony. Appreciate the time. August

1235
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, September first US Nationals. Definitely want to be

1236
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: there for it. Look for the dodge that Tony Stewart

1237
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: is running in the top fuel standpoint. Appreciate the time.

1238
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: It is always good seeing you, mat too. We'll take

1239
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll reset everything. Bob Kravitz joins us.

1240
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 1: We'll talk about Anthony Richardson, the Colts and the night practice.

1241
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: We were all along here acquiring company on the fan

1242
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: from one big start of the next, Tony Stewart into

1243
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: Bob Kravitz. Bob Kravitz, of course, Bob Kravitz dot com,

1244
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: where you can read his work. I thought Bob had

1245
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: one of the you know every once in a while.

1246
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: And rich Nye is another guy that comes to mind

1247
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: on this. I have always said that when I was

1248
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: in television and we would be in the scrum where

1249
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: you're all sitting around, everybody's firing questions, rich Nie is

1250
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: the guy that more often than not would ask a question,

1251
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: and I would think, to myself, that's a great question.

1252
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: I wish I'd thought of that, And Bob Kravitz will

1253
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: send a tweeter or post and I will think to myself,

1254
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: it is a great point, and I wish I'd thought

1255
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: of that, And Bob came up with one to start

1256
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: camp an observation that I think is spot on, and

1257
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: that is Bob, I thought you made an interesting observation

1258
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: about the fact that there seems to be this about

1259
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: face from the Colts on the way they're handling Anthony Richardson.

1260
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: So if you could go back to your original observation

1261
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: and then carry that into do you feel they have

1262
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: done the correct about face?

1263
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, you know, originally they I mean they

1264
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 8: were quick to give Anthony the job after just one

1265
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 8: preseason game, and I thought that was probably the late

1266
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 8: owner who had a big say in that. Now they're

1267
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 8: talking about being patient with him.

1268
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 9: In fact, Zack Keefer had as a.

1269
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 8: Story in The Athletic I think it ran today about

1270
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 8: how they're going to be more patient with Anthony. I

1271
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 8: just think it's really important that they commit to whoever

1272
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 8: they're going to go with. I think it's going to

1273
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 8: be Anthony. I think it should be I think that

1274
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 8: Jones has got to thoroughly outplay him in the preseason.

1275
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 9: We'll learn a lot more after they go to.

1276
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 8: Baltimore and start playing some preseason games. But it's clear

1277
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 8: that from.

1278
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 9: The very start they probably should.

1279
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 8: Have made Anthony Waite, you know, for a one year,

1280
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 8: given in that year to learn, and you know, there's

1281
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 8: a guy with thirteen starts in college, so to think

1282
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 8: that he's going to be ready for the big time

1283
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 8: is fool hardy.

1284
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: Do you think, Bob, that Anthony Richardson. I mean, you know,

1285
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: look hindsight, it's always twenty twenty, right. But with that said,

1286
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: do you think Anthony Richardson, in terms of wishing that

1287
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: he could have been given more time, is that because

1288
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: he needed to more physically tweak himself to play quarterback

1289
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: or emotionally tweak himself to play quarterback.

1290
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 8: I think I think it's more of a mental thing.

1291
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Speaker 8: I think he learned had to learn how to be

1292
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 8: a CEO of an organization as a quarterback. I just

1293
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 8: don't think he was ready. I mean thirteen, Yeah, Look,

1294
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 8: he's got the physical tools, there's no question. You know,

1295
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 8: they've done a lot of work on his footwork, on

1296
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 8: his vision, everything else. But no, I think it was

1297
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 8: more of a mental issue with him be getting ready.

1298
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 8: And again after thirteen starts, what do you expect.

1299
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: Do you think that Anthony Richardson Bob and I guess

1300
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: it's a two part question. Do you think he truly

1301
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: understood what was required to be an NFL quarterback? And

1302
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: do you think he understands it now?

1303
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 8: I think he understands it now based on some of

1304
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 8: his responses to questions. Again, the Keefer story is quite good.

1305
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 8: He talks with Anthony quite a bit. I think he

1306
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 8: understands it. You know, he was handed everything like right

1307
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 8: away because of his natural his you know, physical talent.

1308
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 8: I think he understands now, But at the time, no,

1309
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 8: he had no earthly clue I think that getting benched

1310
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 8: last year was a wake up call, and if it's not,

1311
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 8: then they've got bigger problems than we thought.

1312
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: Bob, I have said Bob Kravitz is our guest. At

1313
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of like when he was signed, I had

1314
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: this feeling that Daniel Jones was going to be the

1315
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: Week one starter. Okay, now I'm not saying that I'm

1316
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: sticking by that, but I believe this and I want

1317
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: you to tell me if this makes sense. It's what

1318
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: I've said on the show. If Daniel Jones is starting

1319
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: Week one, it is far more likely that is simply

1320
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: because Anthony Richardson didn't win the job, not because Daniel

1321
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 1: Jones did. Does that make sense?

1322
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think this is all in It's

1323
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 8: all in Anthony's hands at this point. And I think,

1324
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 8: you know, for Jones to beat him out, uh, he's

1325
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 8: got to be wretched, and so far he hasn't been.

1326
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 8: He's been He's been decent the last couple of days

1327
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 8: and pads. I went to one practice and I read

1328
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 8: up on the other on the other ones, he's looked

1329
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 8: quite good and he's throwing the ball well on the move.

1330
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 8: He's making the intermediate, the layup, the layups he's made.

1331
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 8: So I see growth more and more than anything, I

1332
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 8: see growth and just his approach and his professionalism. I think,

1333
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 8: I you know, it was a bad scene for him

1334
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 8: last year, but I think that has a chance to

1335
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 8: be a real inflection point in his career. If it's not,

1336
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 8: then they've got bigger problems than we all thought.

1337
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Bob, and I think it's important

1338
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: to point this out for people. And look, it's not

1339
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: like I know him well, that would be totally unfair

1340
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 1: of me to say, but I do think that people

1341
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: should at least understand that while we can talk about

1342
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson in terms of his maturity or his dedication,

1343
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: there is no body of work that I'm aware or

1344
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 1: nor any evidence that he's a bad guy, you know

1345
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think he might have been an

1346
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: immature guy. I don't think he's a bad guy.

1347
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 8: No, I agree completely. I mean, he's sweetheart of a guy.

1348
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 9: I mean, there's there's no question the way he deals

1349
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 9: with us, the.

1350
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 8: Way he deals with fans, the way he deals with

1351
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 8: with teammates. I mean, I think everybody's rooting for him,

1352
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 8: nothing against Daniel Jones, you know, seems to be a

1353
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 8: you know, fine enough human being. But I think people

1354
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 8: are rooting for Anthony because he I think he's just immature.

1355
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 8: I mean, I think back to my twenties and my god,

1356
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 8: you know, I mean to think that at that age

1357
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 8: to be given given the sun the moon and be

1358
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 8: asked to navigate that at the age of twenty two

1359
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 8: twenty three, I couldn't have done it. I'd have been

1360
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 8: a disaster. So, you know, I just think when you

1361
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 8: when you've only got thirteen games of experience, you know,

1362
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 8: I mean, you can't expect that the guy is going

1363
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 8: to come going to come into the scene, onto the scene,

1364
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 8: ready made to go, you know. And it's it's been

1365
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 8: a struggle for him clearly, but hopefully hopefully last year.

1366
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 8: He hopefully after last year, is his head screwed on?

1367
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: Right?

1368
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: Bob?

1369
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: Do you see also the same growth or the same

1370
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: tweak that you see from one year to the next

1371
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: or have seen out of Anthony Richardson?

1372
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 3: Uh?

1373
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 1: In any way? Have you seen the same in terms

1374
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: of approach from Shane Steikeen.

1375
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 3: Boy, that's a that's a good question.

1376
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 9: This is me.

1377
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 8: Holding off on an answer because I can't come up

1378
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 8: with one, you know, No, I I think it's basically

1379
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 8: the same thing with Steichen. Honestly, I mean, what what

1380
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 8: do you have in mind there?

1381
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 3: What's your thought?

1382
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: Brother?

1383
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to say because he is very

1384
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: and I'll give Stikeen credit in this regard. He's very

1385
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: rehearsed in the thing, you know, in the answers that

1386
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 1: he gives. He's kind of generic right in that form.

1387
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: And it's hard to know now whether his approach from

1388
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint is different because we're only seeing you know,

1389
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: an hour of practice, right, But it does seem like

1390
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: it was the first time, like with Anthony Richardson. And

1391
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that not to hyper in on

1392
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: that subject or that that, but I think he's been

1393
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: a little bit more transparent in areas that he at

1394
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: once or expects more out of guys. And I feel

1395
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: like he was more of a quote players coach when

1396
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: he first got here.

1397
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess there's some truth to that. I mean,

1398
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 8: he's working these guys hard. It's a more physical camp,

1399
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 8: which I think will benefit everybody, including the quarterbacks. But

1400
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 8: you know, I think that first, I think the first

1401
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 8: year there just trying to get Anthony up and running.

1402
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 8: I think the company petition is really at the center

1403
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 8: of what's going on at this camp. And I do think,

1404
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 8: you know, now.

1405
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 9: With pads, we got a better idea of.

1406
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,440
Speaker 8: What we're looking at. And I think going to Baltimore

1407
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 8: against and the lead team, we'll find out a whole hell.

1408
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 3: Of a lot more.

1409
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: Bob Kravits is our guest. You can read to his

1410
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 1: work at Bob Kravitz dot com. Bob, I guess last

1411
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: thing before we move. I got a couple other things

1412
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about, but on the Colts front,

1413
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: and I've asked this really of everybody we've talked to.

1414
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: I look at it and I get it. I get

1415
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: the fact that this is the NFLPA and the collective

1416
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: bargaining agreement and it's all been agreed upon.

1417
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: I get it.

1418
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: But is there part of you or does it just

1419
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: make us old that I'm still and I assume you

1420
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: are as well, almost incredulous, incredulous to the fact that

1421
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: you get out there at eleven thirty and you're like,

1422
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: they're done for the day, and that's it.

1423
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 3: I know.

1424
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 8: I remember going.

1425
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 9: Up to Greeley, Colorado.

1426
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 8: For Broncos camp and they would have well over one

1427
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 8: hundred players there.

1428
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: They would do two days.

1429
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,480
Speaker 8: Guys were dying, I mean not dying, but guys. Yeah,

1430
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, you know, back then, drinking water

1431
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,480
Speaker 8: was a sign of weakness. I mean it was insane,

1432
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 8: it was just nuts. But yeah, I mean they they don't.

1433
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: You know.

1434
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 8: I hear a more physical camp and I'm like, how,

1435
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, they're still not hitting anybody, really,

1436
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 8: I mean no, it's it's uh, it's interesting. It's not

1437
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,879
Speaker 8: what it used to be. I remember Dan Reeves talking

1438
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 8: about how the game had changed and how training camp had.

1439
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 9: Made players soft, and uh, you know.

1440
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 8: I think that's probably one of the reasons we see

1441
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 8: so many injuries early in the season, because guys aren't

1442
01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 8: aren't physically ready to go.

1443
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: So, Bob, when I was in college, you know, my

1444
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: freshman year, I went to University Kansas. Two of my

1445
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: good buddies were both from Cherry Creek, which you're probably

1446
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: familiar with. It's a you know, a big school in Denver.

1447
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: So we go back, Yeah, it's the Carmel. So we

1448
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: go back to Denver for a weekend. Right, We're hanging

1449
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: out at my buddy's house and it's like two thirty

1450
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: in the morning, and one of them gets a brilliant

1451
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: idea that a girl he went to high school with

1452
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: who's at the University of Northern Colorado in Greeley, Colorado.

1453
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: He thinks he might have a shot at her, so

1454
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: we decide to road trip. It's like forty minutes, forty

1455
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: five minutes, I think. We go to Greeley, Colorado at

1456
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: like three p fifteen in the morning to hang out

1457
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: while he goes and tries to like throw a Hail

1458
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: Mary for this girl he went to high school with.

1459
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: We get there, we're all excited for him, We're wishing

1460
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: him the best, we're giving him the Godspeed speech. He

1461
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: walks in and it turns out she's got a new

1462
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,520
Speaker 1: boyfriend she met at University of Northern Colorado in Greeley, Colorado.

1463
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: And we turned around and immediately went back. And I'm

1464
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: thinking that my experience in Greeley, Colorado probably even still

1465
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: was better than a lot of the guys that were

1466
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: trying out for the Broncos, right.

1467
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 9: Oh, absolutely it was.

1468
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 8: It was brutal back in the day. I mean to

1469
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 8: a day's every day, every single day they did to

1470
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 8: a day injury. I mean, you're at the university exactly.

1471
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 8: And let me tell you greely, is it's not typical Colorado.

1472
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,520
Speaker 2: Correct, it's not beautiful.

1473
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: Correct, it's it's.

1474
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 8: It's not a beautiful filled with beautiful mountain vistas. The

1475
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 8: truth of the matter is it kind of thinks Yeah.

1476
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: No, it's it's a fun drive to make back when

1477
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: a guy just wants to listen to the cure and

1478
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: like Christopher Cross at four o'clock in the morning, it

1479
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,480
Speaker 1: needs to be consulted. Real fun times, right, That's that's

1480
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 1: a good time. Hey, Bob, what do you make of

1481
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: before we let you go? Bob Kravitz, our guest, I

1482
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: just talked to Tony Stewart about it, but I wanted

1483
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: your opinion as well. I know it's all new news

1484
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,879
Speaker 1: to all of us. What, if anything, was your reaction

1485
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: to now seeing that the Fox Television Group is a

1486
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: one third owner of the Penske Entertainment Corporation, which is

1487
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Motor speed Way and IndyCar.

1488
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 8: Well, I don't have a lot of deep thoughts on

1489
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 8: it because I'm just kind of getting up to speed

1490
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 8: like everybody else. But it sounds like a great deal.

1491
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 8: I mean it sounds like, you know, like you know

1492
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 8: they're going to.

1493
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 9: Work well together. You've got your your.

1494
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 8: Media you know, lined up to I mean, I think

1495
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 8: the contracts to what twenty six or twenty seven, and

1496
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 8: it's gonna go quite a bit longer now. I think

1497
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 8: it's a good deal for everybody, for Fox, for for Penske.

1498
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 8: What did what did Stewart have to say?

1499
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: Well, Tony was saying that, you know the same thing,

1500
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: Like he's a promoter, so you know, he's like, I

1501
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: know what it means to promote races. And the television

1502
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: partner is going to have a financial stake in it now, right,

1503
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be in their best interest to make

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01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: sure as many people know about this as possible. I'll

1505
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: tell you one of the things, Bob, as I've let

1506
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: this settle in a little bit. A couple of years ago,

1507
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: we were all asked to submit who we thought would

1508
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: be a good broadcast or a good title sponsor for

1509
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: IndyCar before NTT became the sponsor. And at that time,

1510
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: and this was about eight years ago, and I said,

1511
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, you're starting to see more live sports and streaming,

1512
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: and at that time, I was motivated by the fact

1513
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: that I had seen a New York Jets Buffalo Bills

1514
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: game was being carried live on Twitter. This was like

1515
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: eight years ago, and I thought about the fact that

1516
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: IMS Productions is owned by the Speedway, they have television

1517
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: edit based, they have television cameras, it's a production company.

1518
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: And now knowing that Fox is getting ready to launch

1519
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: and thank you to somebody who sent this to me,

1520
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: but I had forgotten this. The Fox Television group is

1521
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: getting ready to launch an app that is their version

1522
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: of the one Stop Shopping You know that everything right

1523
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: here for you, And I think probably knowing that this

1524
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: means that they have an ownership within IMA Productions, it

1525
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: is going to allow them to do their own reality

1526
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: programming to promote the series itself, like you've seen with

1527
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: Formula one and et cetera. But they now have ownership

1528
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: stake and the group that is putting that all together.

1529
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: So it makes sense to me that that means that

1530
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: eventually perhaps all IndyCar events move to an app and

1531
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: move to streaming, which to people over fifty sounds totally foreign,

1532
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: and people under thirty it sounds totally normal. And that's

1533
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: the demo Bob that they've got to go after.

1534
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree completely. Yeah, it's in the media. We've

1535
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 8: got to change along with the times, and I think

1536
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 8: that that's probably the way they're going to go. I

1537
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 8: think it's a good deal for everybody.

1538
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 9: I think it's a great deal.

1539
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 8: For indiecar and for Penske.

1540
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: You're going to be out of practice tonight.

1541
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 8: I'm thinking about it, actually doing a I'm talking for

1542
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:11,480
Speaker 8: a documentary this afternoon on the twenty thirteen Colts Chiefs

1543
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 8: comeback game, the forty five forty.

1544
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: Four that was the Superman game, right.

1545
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 8: Andrew Luck Superman games, that's what everybody remembers.

1546
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 9: So I actually watched the.

1547
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 8: Game again this morning just to you know, get my

1548
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 8: memory going. And so I'll probably do that and I'll

1549
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 8: probably head on up to practice.

1550
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 9: I'll be curious to see if Carly talks because this.

1551
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 8: Is when this is when Jim always used to talk.

1552
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 8: So I got to find out if she'll be made

1553
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 8: available for us.

1554
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: Listen, if she does talk and you've got a chance

1555
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: to talk to her, Bob, you can put your bid

1556
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: in on the house, right.

1557
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,520
Speaker 8: I see that it's only what twelve million.

1558
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: That's right?

1559
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I got that second mortgage on

1560
01:20:59,120 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: your home.

1561
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 8: You're good to go, right, Oh, not a problem. I'm

1562
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 8: I'm as good as moved in.

1563
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: I think it's got up. One of the houses he

1564
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 1: has has a full ice skating rink in it too,

1565
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: which is perfect for you.

1566
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 9: Right, a full Yeah.

1567
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 3: He used to ask me.

1568
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 8: To come over and be a goaltender for his grandson

1569
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 8: and I said thanks, but no thanks because the kid would.

1570
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: Probably light me up.

1571
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: You were a goaltender like all the way through, right?

1572
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: I was?

1573
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 3: I was.

1574
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 8: I was a goaltender from the very start, and I

1575
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 8: played till I was probably in my early fifties. Okay, when, yeah.

1576
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this before I let you go.

1577
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I've asked you this before. I can't

1578
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 1: recall when when I go to hockey games, and this

1579
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: is going to show my naivete about hockey. And I

1580
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: really enjoy hockey. I think live hockey is super fun

1581
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: to watch. It doesn't mean I totally understand everything going

1582
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: on because I didn't grow up with it, right, But

1583
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: I see a lot of times where the goalie as

1584
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: his team and everything is taking place at the other

1585
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: end of the ice. Well, grab his stick and bang

1586
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: it like three times on the ice. Is he what

1587
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: is that meaning? Is that calling for a shift change?

1588
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: Is it sending out what exactly is going on? Or

1589
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: is he just bored?

1590
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 8: No, it's usually you bang your stick on the ice

1591
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 8: when your team is ending a power play or is shorthanded.

1592
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 8: You're letting your bench know that the penalty time is up.

1593
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 8: And so yeah, you're just letting them know that the

1594
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 8: time is up on the penalty and they need to

1595
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 8: be aware aware of that.

1596
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: So the goaltender is the goaltender almost like a safety

1597
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: in football, and the fact that because they're the last

1598
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: line of defense, they're also in charge of kind of

1599
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: overseeing some things, very.

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01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 8: Much like a catcher in baseball. I mean, you control

1601
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 8: a lot more than you think. You think you're just

1602
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 8: sitting there waiting for the next puck to you in

1603
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 8: the face. But not necessarily the truth, it's not.

1604
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 9: Necessarily the way it goes.

1605
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 3: No, you you've got.

1606
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 8: You've got to know the game and the ebbs and

1607
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 8: flows the game, and uh, yeah, that's what that's all about.

1608
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 2: Eddie.

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01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: You're a catcher, right, that's right. You're basically the goaltender

1610
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 1: of baseball. Exactly see the things we learning this program.

1611
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: This is what we do. We educate and entertain on

1612
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 1: the show. Bob appreciate it as always. All right, all right, buddy, Hey,

1613
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: Bob Kravitz, our friend Bob Kravitz dot com, where you

1614
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: can read his work. Speaking of reading work, Zach Kiefer,

1615
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 1: the column that he had mentioned about Anthony Richardson very interesting.

1616
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Zach set to join us, coming up two o'clock hour

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01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: here ninety three five and one oh seven five To

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: the fan, Eddie, are you becoming a fan without admitting it?

1619
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: No, you could admit it. I just like a couple

1620
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 2: of their songs. That's about it.

1621
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: A couple becomes six, becomes twelve. I have a if

1622
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: you'd like. I mean, I have an extra bucket hat.

1623
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: Is big enough? Good question. I didn't say it's a

1624
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: hula hoop. It's just a bucket hat.

1625
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: So I want to get back into what I was

1626
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: just talking about with this announcement with Fox, and what

1627
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm about to say is speculative, but we were just

1628
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: in here talking about it. Zach Keith for coming up

1629
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes from now, and what I'm

1630
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: about to say in large part may sound very nuanced

1631
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: or yeah, Jake, you know, welcome to twenty twenty five.

1632
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 2: Get off your rocker.

1633
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't realize this. When we

1634
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: go to a race, whether it's the IndyCar Iowa Race,

1635
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: whether it's IndyCar at Laguneseka, wherever it may be, there's

1636
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: a there's a tent we call the TV tent inside

1637
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: the television compound at the racetrack that has within it

1638
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: a caterer that you know, because we're there literally from

1639
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: nine in the morning until like seven o'clock at night,

1640
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: so they have a caterer there that provides lunch and

1641
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, a snack, that kind of thing for everybody.

1642
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't mean just the people you hear on the microphone.

1643
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean the camera operators, the cable line, the people

1644
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: laying down cable lines, the people working in the trucks

1645
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: that are directors and producers and creating the graphics you

1646
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: see on television, all of it, okay, and the radio

1647
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: side of it as well. Our engineer Rick Evans, are

1648
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 1: on site engineer that's putting everything together. Everybody's in this

1649
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: hanging out in the same area during rain delays, et cetera.

1650
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 2: And what do you do during rain delays? Jake? We

1651
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 2: play games. We play tic tac toe.

1652
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: That is a great question. Try to nap read shoot

1653
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: the ball, give hypothetical questions.

1654
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: Now shoot the bowl. What does that mean?

1655
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: They literally bring a large steer with horns by and

1656
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: then everybody gets no, just hang it out, chewing the cud.

1657
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 3: Right.

1658
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: So all of those folks, when people ask me, they're like,

1659
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: how's it going to look different now? With Fox versus NBC,

1660
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: versus versus versus ESPN, ABC. The vast majority of the

1661
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes folks putting that all together are the

1662
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: same because they are contracted out via IMS Productions. And

1663
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:35,480
Speaker 1: so you have right across the street from the speedway

1664
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: a television production company and a very large sports television

1665
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 1: production company that so, to put it in these terms,

1666
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:51,799
Speaker 1: it is a bakery that is putting together baked goods

1667
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: that then Kroger sells some of them, and Schnooks sells

1668
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: some of them, and CBS sells some of them. So

1669
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: IMS Productions is a television production company right across from

1670
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Motor Speedway that's in the same corporate building

1671
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: as IndyCar, and that production house has very talented editors, videographers,

1672
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: all of it to put together things like documentaries, daily shows,

1673
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: race recaps. A lot of what you see on IndyCar

1674
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: dot com is done by IMS Productions. The broadcast that

1675
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: you see for the Professional bull Riders Association is done

1676
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 1: by IMS Productions. And as I mentioned at one time,

1677
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: many of the visiting teams when they would come into town,

1678
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics, the whatever, their production crews would be

1679
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: facilitated and their broadcast would be facilitated by IMS Productions.

1680
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: So I think that Fox. I don't know this merely

1681
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: conjecture on my behalf, but it makes sense. I think

1682
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: that Fox like every network now, I mean you see it,

1683
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 1: Paramount has and I think Paramount is CBS. So if

1684
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: you have the Paramount app, you're able to watch like

1685
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 1: any show that's ever been on CBS. People love it. Right,

1686
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: one of the years, during the Super Bowl, every third

1687
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: ad was for Paramount and it was like, this is

1688
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: the best NBC has had Peacock, which you go on

1689
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,879
Speaker 1: that and you're seeing all this NBC programming. Obviously, Amazon

1690
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: has Prime, Apple TV has out you know, and so

1691
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 1: all of the networks are conditioning and getting ready for

1692
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 1: the fact that you want to move your real estate

1693
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: into an area that you entirely control. So if Fox

1694
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,799
Speaker 1: is getting ready to launch an all inclusive Fox app,

1695
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 1: maybe they already have it that has everything on it.

1696
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 1: So you can go on there and you can watch

1697
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 1: the Simpson and then you can watch old episodes of

1698
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: you know, the X Files, and you can also watch

1699
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: this week's IndyCar race on Fox, or you can watch

1700
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: the NFL on Fox, all on this app. And so

1701
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: my assumption is that Fox looked at it and said,

1702
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: if we need content for our app, and we need

1703
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: sports content for our app, and we already are invested

1704
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: in IndyCar in terms of broadcasting their races. So what

1705
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: we can do is by moving everything onto an app,

1706
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 1: we can actually in doing that, be it subscription fees

1707
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: or whatever else, we can kind of cut out middlemen

1708
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the dollars in the revenue and the generation.

1709
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: So let's condition our viewers towards going there to find

1710
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: their IndyCar stuff, and let's entice them by because we

1711
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: have a production company now that we have one third

1712
01:29:55,120 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: ownership in, let's go ahead and put together shows like

1713
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: you saw of Drive to survive that lifted Formula one

1714
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: into a different stratosphere in terms of the American conscience.

1715
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: So now, in that regard, it is entirely possible that

1716
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Fox is saying hey by buying one third of the

1717
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: Penske Entertainment Group, which owns the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and

1718
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 1: the IndyCar Series and IMS productions, even though Fox already

1719
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 1: had their own production stuff.

1720
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 2: I get it.

1721
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 1: But you now have a turnkey, self sufficient division of

1722
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: people that can immediately give you programming and put everything

1723
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 1: in funnel it into that app and continue to grow

1724
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: that brand. And I think it's entirely possible. That's what

1725
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 1: this is all about. I don't know that's what's going

1726
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: to happen, but I would guess it would not surprise

1727
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,680
Speaker 1: me at all if and that sounds crazy, if I

1728
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: would have told you, and I can tell you, because

1729
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 1: when I suggested the Amazon thing several years ago, I mean,

1730
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 1: there definitely was the question of like, are people really

1731
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,879
Speaker 1: going to go like on an app to watch sports?

1732
01:30:59,200 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: But look at it.

1733
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: Now. You already have NASCAR races on Prime, you have

1734
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball on Apple TV. And so if I

1735
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: were to tell you, and I don't know this. I

1736
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: want to be very clear, I don't know this. I'm

1737
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 1: strictly prognosticating. But if I were to tell you that

1738
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty nine IndyCar season, if not sooner, that

1739
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: the entire season would be on the Fox Indie app

1740
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: and leading up to that race. Hey, Indy Cars racing

1741
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: this week at Laguna Seca on Wednesday. I'm gonna watch

1742
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 1: build up to Laguna and it's going to show the

1743
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: inside the bus with Alex Poulo from last week and

1744
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 1: getting ready for Laguna and there's here's here's video of

1745
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 1: Renus VK and his simulator at his home in Florida

1746
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 1: getting ready for Laguna Seca and oh wow, like Kyle

1747
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 1: Kirkwood and Connor Daily, like did you see what they

1748
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 1: were saying? Like and they're showing it on this app

1749
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: leading up to the race, just like you've seen in

1750
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 1: other sports. But you do that on that app and

1751
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 1: then that race, the qualifying sessions, the practice sessions, and

1752
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: the race are on let's say a Fox Indie app

1753
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: and then probably the Indy five hundred stays with that

1754
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: as well as on network television. But I would think

1755
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: that that is a big motivation in this, and if

1756
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: you are the Penske Entertainment Group, I also understand it

1757
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: because you're getting capital upfront to continue to bolster and

1758
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: promote your series. So that's how I would see that

1759
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: now that i've and again I apologize that I'm a

1760
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: slow learner, but when this news came out this morning,

1761
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: I was kind of out of commission, and then I

1762
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 1: came in here and looked at that, and then over

1763
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: the course of the show and especially talking to Tony

1764
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 1: Stewart and whatever else, it just started jogging in my

1765
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 1: mind of Okay, this is probably what this all means.

1766
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong on That wouldn't be the

1767
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 1: first time the third I was wrong about something in

1768
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, and then once in nineteen eighty six.

1769
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 2: Before we go to break, Jacob shout out to Roy

1770
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 2: Hibbert in the chat, not that he's not actually Roy

1771
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 2: Hibbert but engaged now proposed to his girlfriend for said

1772
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 2: they we've been together for a while.

1773
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 1: So how long is a while?

1774
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. He didn't specifically say, but he's one

1775
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 2: of the regulars that's in the company break room. Do

1776
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: we know her?

1777
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,840
Speaker 1: Don't know his or her name. I think we want

1778
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 1: to keep that confidential. So this guy's name is not

1779
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: really Roy Hibbert. No, I mean, in other words, it

1780
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 1: could be that his name is Roy Hbbert. He's just

1781
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: not former pacer Roy Hibbert. Correct, So this is not

1782
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: Roy Hibbert. His name is not really his birth name

1783
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: is not Roy Hibbert. That is a pseudonym that he

1784
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: goes by in our chat room. Right that is correct?

1785
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, but congrats to him.

1786
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 1: You know what, all I know is this, and I'm

1787
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: just going on conjecture as well. But if his name

1788
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: is Roy Hibbert and I congratulations, congratulate him on the engagement,

1789
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: but he needs to keep his fiance away from the

1790
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 1: pseudonym of Paul.

1791
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 2: George on the chat right.

1792
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that was a rumor, it was never that

1793
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: was never actually true. Congratulations. Air quotes Roy Hibbert on

1794
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: the engagement. Much congratulations, many congratulations, Zachki Fernack.

1795
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 2: Is that right? That is correct?

1796
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: Zak Keifer athletic interesting article. Anthony richardson next great song

1797
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: one of the best for Eddie. I'm literally probably the

1798
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: only person on planet Earth that considers Our House by

1799
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Madness one of the great songs of all time. But

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01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 1: man I love it. Colts practicing tonight Grand Park in Westfield.

1801
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: Zach Kiefer is still a go to when it comes

1802
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 1: to the Colts, despite the fact that his responsibilities go

1803
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 1: to all teams within the National Football League and his

1804
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: writing with the Athletic But he did have a very

1805
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: interesting piece recently about Anthony Richardson and he. But that being,

1806
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 1: Zach joins us on the program. Now, Zach, how are you.

1807
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 3: I'm good, Jake, how are you doing?

1808
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: I can't complain, man, you know, it's it's the pullar

1809
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: vortex outside. I don't know if you noticed that. It's

1810
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: like seventy It's dropped sixty two degrees in two days.

1811
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: So that's good, right, Jake.

1812
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 5: I'm in Ashburn, Virginia right now, so at least it's

1813
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 5: not ninety five degrees like it was what Tuesday when

1814
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 5: I was in Westfield.

1815
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 1: Okay, now, hold on now before we let me guess this. Yeah,

1816
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: the other day in Westfield, by the way, one hundred

1817
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 1: and twenty one degrees a new record. Okay, So Ashbourn, Virginia.

1818
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: Don't tell me because I like guessing games. Are you

1819
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:14,839
Speaker 1: there on an NFL assignment?

1820
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Zach?

1821
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 3: Yes?

1822
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 1: Okay, So Are you there for a training camp? Yes, okay,

1823
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that Ashburn, Virginia. There would be

1824
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: two that jump out immediately as possibilities, but I'll go

1825
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: with the obvious and say the Washington commanders.

1826
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, okay, you're correct.

1827
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 1: How far is that from DC?

1828
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 3: Man?

1829
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 5: It's it's a pain. Like I used to complain about

1830
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 5: the drive up to Anderson for colts camp. This was

1831
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 5: like forty five minutes this morning. I'm staying right by

1832
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 5: Reagan in downtown Arlington, and to get out to Ashburn

1833
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 5: where the team practices, it was like forty five minutes.

1834
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 5: And Dan Quinn and the head coach spoke at seven

1835
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 5: thirty this morning, so I don't mind the early morning,

1836
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 5: but it was an early morning.

1837
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's early.

1838
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 1: Listen. I remember covering the RAMS and being in mc home, Illinois,

1839
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: and uh, to get there you had to actually take

1840
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 1: a left at Neptune. I mean it was you know

1841
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: what I mean, it was like where in the world

1842
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 1: are we?

1843
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had that thought a lot lately.

1844
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: So let's get to this in terms of your article

1845
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson, And you know, I thought it was

1846
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: interesting because there has been so much speculation about the

1847
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: workouts that he's done, who he has worked out with,

1848
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: and where things stand with the Indianapolis Colts. You were

1849
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: around him, you spent time around him, Zach, what did

1850
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:30,759
Speaker 1: you learn?

1851
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1852
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 5: I came away more impressed than I thought I would be,

1853
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 5: And I don't want to get ahead of myself by

1854
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 5: any means, because nothing really matters right now, right like

1855
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 5: anything they say, it doesn't matter what Anythony Richardson.

1856
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Does on the field this season.

1857
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 5: If he does end up being the starter of that's

1858
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 5: what matters. But you know, I asked him, what when

1859
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 5: you walked off the field after the last game of

1860
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 5: last season, which was a chaotic, disappointing season for him.

1861
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 5: We don't need to relive that, you know what you

1862
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 5: tell yourself? And he said that I can't be slacky anymore.

1863
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 5: And that gave me pause because if you didn't get

1864
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 5: it in year two, what's going to change? And then

1865
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 5: he explained it and I walked away impressed because of

1866
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 5: the second part of that answer. And look, if the

1867
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 5: light doesn't come on this year. The surprising part to

1868
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 5: me is that Chris Ballad is willing to wait until

1869
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 5: year four. They're They're not going to jump the gun

1870
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 5: on this. He doesn't want Anthony Richardson going to a

1871
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 5: different team in the future and flourishing with that team.

1872
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 5: So the Colts are going to be patient. But with

1873
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson, he talked a lot about his footwork. Then

1874
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 5: he talked about a lot about accountability and how even

1875
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 5: if it's not his fault that something went wrong, it

1876
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 5: is his fault that something went wrong. That's just what

1877
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 5: quarterbacks have to accept with that position. So for me,

1878
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 5: I'm not a guy that's around Anthony Richardson every day

1879
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 5: like the beat writers. But I will say this, I've

1880
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 5: never walked away from a conversation more convinced. It's July

1881
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 5: thirty and everyone's going to say everything rosy right now,

1882
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 5: And what really matters is what they do on the field.

1883
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 1: Do you say get it do you mean getting it

1884
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: mentally or getting it physically?

1885
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 5: He said last year he knew the offense. He said

1886
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 5: this year he's starting to master the offense. So there's that, right,

1887
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 5: and guys learn at different clips. I'm working on this

1888
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 5: big quarterback project about why young quarterbacks struggle and so

1889
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 5: many and we're not talking about the Peyton Manings of

1890
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 5: the World and Andrew Lux and et cetera. But Bruce

1891
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 5: Arians told me that young quarterbacks takes three years to

1892
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,799
Speaker 5: learn the NFL offenses that they're given, like three years,

1893
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 5: like this is his third year. And the other reality

1894
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 5: is they screwed this up. The Colts did. They screwed

1895
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 5: this up. Part of this is on the player, but

1896
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,719
Speaker 5: a lot of this is on the organization. They rushed

1897
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 5: him onto the field and almost the worst thing that

1898
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 5: happened was that he played well those first couple of

1899
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 5: games as a rookie, right, he played pretty well. They

1900
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 5: had that Rams come back, they beat the Texans by

1901
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 5: double vigits, Like, he played really well before he got hurt.

1902
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 5: Then they signed jonathancause they thought they had the quarterback

1903
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 5: in place. But here's what happened. Richardson got hurt. And

1904
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 5: when you're hurt, you're not around the team. And when

1905
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 5: you're not around the team, as a young quarterback, you

1906
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 5: don't build those daily habits that you need to build

1907
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 5: as a young quarterback. Like a lot of quarterbacks told

1908
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 5: me this over the years, like you need to know

1909
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 5: what a Monday looks like, what a Tuesday looks like,

1910
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 5: Richardson did not know that. And again I'm not excusing him,

1911
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 5: like this is on him. He needs to figure this

1912
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 5: stuff out. But what they should have done is they

1913
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 5: should have started Gardner Minshew, which he ended up playing. Anyway,

1914
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 5: they should have started Minshew. They should have had Richardson

1915
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 5: become his shadow. He would have learned what the work

1916
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 5: week looks like, and then they could have maybe started

1917
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:37,679
Speaker 5: him in year two or year three. But they didn't,

1918
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 5: and everything was set back. Right, so last year he

1919
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 5: becomes the starter.

1920
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 3: It's his team.

1921
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 5: He plays well, he plays poorly, but he doesn't have

1922
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 5: those habits. He doesn't have a work week down. And

1923
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 5: that really blew up in their face because he wasn't

1924
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 5: preparing the right way. The team was getting frustrated, some

1925
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 5: players were getting frustrated, and so they benched it. And

1926
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 5: so almost this year it feels like they're restarting the

1927
01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 5: whole cycle.

1928
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Speaker 1: Can you think that or when you say that the

1929
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: Colts start, you know, I think we all can say

1930
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: they started him too early, right? Do you believe that

1931
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 1: the greater damage there was giving him a false entitlement

1932
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: or was it letting his confidence get rattled, Because then

1933
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: it didn't go, well, I.

1934
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Speaker 5: Don't think he's a guy who loses confidence. I mean,

1935
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 5: with you, if you were built like that. And these

1936
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 5: are some of the things that Anthony Richardson has said.

1937
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 5: And again I don't want to sound like everybody else here,

1938
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 5: but he's a good kid, Like he's a genuinely good kid.

1939
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 5: And I have conversations with plenty of athletes where I

1940
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 5: walk away and I'm like, eh, I don't really like

1941
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 5: that guy. I like Athy Richardson. He's a good kid,

1942
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 5: he's respectful, he seems to get it. But he said

1943
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 5: early on after his first year, like the NFL is

1944
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 5: not that hard. It's not that much harder than college.

1945
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 5: That's complete bs. It is absolutely that hard. And last

1946
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 5: year it was the tap out thing. He said he

1947
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 5: was tired, and maybe he was, but the optics of that,

1948
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 5: you just have to know with the starting quarterback that

1949
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 5: you just don't say that. You just don't say it

1950
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 5: as a podium that's going to follow him for a

1951
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 5: while when you tap out of a game because you're

1952
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 5: tired a divisional opponent on the road in a close game.

1953
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 5: So I just think he's green, he's just naive to this,

1954
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,799
Speaker 5: and I think more time, learning the system, learning the process,

1955
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 5: learning the building, learning the job, like literally learning the

1956
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 5: job would have benefited him a little bit more. But again,

1957
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 5: here we are, and it's going to be fascinating to

1958
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 5: see if he can strain together some consistency because when

1959
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 5: I asked Daniel Jones, like, you know what did Shane said,

1960
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 5: can tell you about what is going to win this job?

1961
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 5: And Daniel Jones is not the most interesting quote in

1962
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 5: the world, but he said, look, the coaches told us

1963
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 5: they're going to go with the guy they can trust.

1964
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 5: So as of right now, based on the body of

1965
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 5: evidence in the past, you would think that would be

1966
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. The day I was at cant Richardson looked

1967
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 5: a little bit better. It's early August, right, we got

1968
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 5: a long way to go. But I wonder how this

1969
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 5: shakes out, because that's the biggest gap that Anthony Richardson

1970
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:00,080
Speaker 5: has to clear, has to close, right He has to

1971
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 5: show that he can be way more consistent, because right

1972
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 5: now I can go based on the body of work

1973
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 5: that both have produced in the NFL, Jones hasn't beat

1974
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 5: in that category.

1975
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 1: You know, Zach, Let's be real here, Zach, if you

1976
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: grate it on the curve of me being double the age.

1977
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 1: I am pretty much built like that, don't you think,

1978
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 1: you know, relatively, I didn't say it, you know, I mean,

1979
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: come on, you know, I mean like I got I

1980
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: got news for you. I mean, we're looking at, you know,

1981
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: over a half century here this kind of sculpting. You know,

1982
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: come on, I'm the ar of the radio world. Not really.

1983
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: I mean, you see J and B. Now he's in

1984
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:35,839
Speaker 1: great shape, Zach Keith for joining us, for what's happening.

1985
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 5: He is in great shape, by the way.

1986
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 3: I know.

1987
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, Premier weight loss. They hooked him

1988
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: up and they do the whole doctor deal. I mean,

1989
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: he looks great.

1990
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 5: I haven't seen you. I haven't seen you running through

1991
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:45,759
Speaker 5: mnting Kessler.

1992
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 3: Man, what you been.

1993
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 1: I've been busy this time of year.

1994
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 2: I'm not.

1995
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: I never Here's the thing. I never run outside though, right,

1996
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 1: I'm an indoor runner. But this time of year, because

1997
01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm traveling all over the place doing racing stuff, it's

1998
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: the winner time, and I only run in the winner

1999
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: in the gym. Truth be told to keep my energy

2000
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: level up. That has nothing to do with the vanity

2001
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:02,600
Speaker 1: of looking the.

2002
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 5: Sexy you know you don't have to try when when

2003
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 5: if that guy give him.

2004
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, that's exactly right.

2005
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 2: Zach.

2006
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: You had mentioned that you think the Colts have some

2007
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 1: regret over the way they handled Richardson. Do you just

2008
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: simply mean in handing him the keys too early?

2009
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, And those are those are not my opinions, those

2010
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,600
Speaker 5: are those are facts. That's what Chris Valler gave me

2011
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 5: explicitly in its stage of article. He said, Look, well

2012
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 5: he just didn't have the understanding professionally of how to

2013
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 5: play and then how to prepare. It's just it's black

2014
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 5: and white.

2015
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 3: They rushed him out there too quickly.

2016
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 5: And look, it's easy to fall through the trappings of talent, right,

2017
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 5: Like Jim Mersey was one of the people in the

2018
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 5: building saying he needs to play. And I understand the

2019
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 5: argument at the time, right, he hadn't played very much

2020
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 5: in college. He needed to play. And I'm not trying

2021
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 5: to plug this story again, but I'm working on a

2022
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 5: big quarterback story about the bad habits you can develop

2023
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 5: if you play too soon. And Alex Smith was unbelievable

2024
01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 5: in my conversations with him, and he says the thing

2025
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 5: I look for is is footwork. Like you could see

2026
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 5: it last season with Caleb Williams. He was being sped up.

2027
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 5: His feet were a mess. He was indecisive, and then

2028
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:11,599
Speaker 5: he would just miss easy checkdowns. And how many easy

2029
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 5: checkdowns does Anthony Richardson miss. That's one of the first

2030
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 5: things that Anthony Richardson mentioned to me when he asked him, like,

2031
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 5: what he was working on was his base, was his

2032
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 5: feet And I know this is boring technical quarterback stuff,

2033
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 5: but I find it fascinating. He said, Look like, if

2034
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 5: I get my base nice and wide, then I know

2035
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 5: where the ball is going to go. I have more

2036
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 5: control over the ball. And he says, if I don't,

2037
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:36,599
Speaker 5: if my feet narrow, I missed. And everybody out there

2038
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 5: listening knows what he means by miss because he misses high.

2039
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 3: That's his miss.

2040
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 5: It's been way too frequent, a couple of weeks, a

2041
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 5: couple of years into his career, and you know those

2042
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 5: are the little thing. So if you're out the camp

2043
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 5: and you see the quarterbacks warming up on the side,

2044
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,599
Speaker 5: you will see Anthony Richardson repping that, repping his bass,

2045
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,719
Speaker 5: trying to widen his stands. But again, you know another

2046
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,879
Speaker 5: thing I talked to Jim Bob Cooter, the opposive coordinator,

2047
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 5: about is like, can a quarterback develop touch? So many

2048
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,520
Speaker 5: quarterbacks over the year just had it right. You can practice.

2049
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:08,599
Speaker 5: But the thing is that he said that was really

2050
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 5: fascinating was a lot of guys will get through high

2051
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 5: school and college and get a lot of attention and

2052
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 5: win a lot of games because of their arms strength. Right,

2053
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 5: Richardson's part of that. Right, he can run all over

2054
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,759
Speaker 5: the field. We know that he can throw it a mile,

2055
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 5: we know that. But you get to this league and

2056
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 5: the windows are smaller and you need to touch right.

2057
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 5: You need those intermediate throws, you need to hit those

2058
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 5: short ropes, the layups, the lack of a better phrase,

2059
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 5: and that's where he's got to get better at. So

2060
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 5: that's going to come down to the fundamentals and everything

2061
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 5: we've seen so far. I mean, on target percentage last

2062
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 5: year was fifty eight percent. Fifty eight was by far

2063
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,799
Speaker 5: the lowest in the league. I mean, Jones is usually

2064
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 5: at seventy percent. One year with the Giants, he was

2065
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 5: at eighty one. So that's that's the gap I was

2066
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 5: talking about. She's trying to narrow. You know, he's trying

2067
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 5: to simplify things, widen his base to get better at

2068
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,560
Speaker 5: those types of throws. But that's going to be the

2069
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 5: difference in this when we watch the preseason game.

2070
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Zach, since you have left, Zach Keeper is our guest.

2071
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:08,639
Speaker 1: With the Athletic, you were, you know, obviously a Colts

2072
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 1: feature and beat writer during your time here at both

2073
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 1: The Indie Star and then the Athletic, and you were

2074
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 1: esoteric to Indianapolis to the Colts. You now are an

2075
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: NFL writer where you are going around and doing features,

2076
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: whether it be on a player or a particular team

2077
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,680
Speaker 1: or a camp. You know, I know you've done it

2078
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: in Miami. You're now in Washington. So when you look

2079
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,560
Speaker 1: around at different franchises, and I know I've asked you

2080
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: this before, but it's worth revisiting because you've got another

2081
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 1: year under your belt of looking at the league in

2082
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 1: a much bigger lens. When you do that, it is

2083
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,679
Speaker 1: illuminated to you the areas where the Colts are different

2084
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 1: than other franchises, where.

2085
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 5: It's much more of a family business. Right Like that

2086
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 5: jumps out at me. And I don't just say that

2087
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 5: because of recent events, but the cults are in erthsay

2088
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 5: family business, and you feel that and it feels small

2089
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 5: in a good way, if that makes sense. It feels

2090
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 5: like they're a little pocket of the training camp world

2091
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 5: at that farm up in Westfield, and I bounced around

2092
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 5: to I don't know, fifteen or twenty training camps over

2093
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 5: the last couple of years, and all of them are

2094
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 5: sort of their own adventure, right in terms of getting

2095
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 5: there and parking and getting through the fans and getting

2096
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,280
Speaker 5: to the media area and watching practice. All of that

2097
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,600
Speaker 5: kind of runs right parallel, right, They're all kind of

2098
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 5: the same. But the Colt stock is refreshing, not because

2099
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 5: I know a lot of people, but because it is

2100
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 5: the cults kind of ways. It feels smaller, it feels simpler,

2101
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 5: it feels unnecessarily complicated, and I kind of appreciate that

2102
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 5: more now that I've ventured out. I cannot tell you

2103
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 5: how good of a cult, like, how good to set

2104
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 5: up the Colts have a training camp for the fans,

2105
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:56,560
Speaker 5: for the media, for everybody. It is just such a

2106
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 5: seamless operation that is not to be overlooked. And then again,

2107
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 5: you know, like there are times when I bounce around

2108
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 5: the legue and go to a bunch of stadiums and

2109
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 5: come back to Lucas Sayler, and I'm like, this is

2110
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 5: just an absolutely gorgeous stadium. And I hope I didn't

2111
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:12,759
Speaker 5: take for granted going there every Sunday for however many years.

2112
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 5: But it's little things. It's players, it's the fact that

2113
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 5: the cults are more accountable. And by that, I mean

2114
01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 5: Chris Baler comes out and says, I screwed it up.

2115
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 5: That's not something you hear in every city. And he

2116
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 5: has to a degree. Jim Mersey, when he was alive,

2117
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 5: would come out and own it, and he would talk

2118
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 5: to the fans. You always knew where he stood. You

2119
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 5: always knew where he stood right or wrong, and you

2120
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 5: never questioned whether he was in this to win like

2121
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 5: some owners are just kind of in this for the paychecks.

2122
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 5: Jim Rsay desperately wanted to win. And so there's little

2123
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 5: things like that that I got accustomed to covering the

2124
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 5: Colts that are not the same when you bounce around

2125
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 5: and venture across the league. And I do appreciate those

2126
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 5: things more now in my spot that I'm currently at.

2127
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: What franchise did you gain a lot of respect for

2128
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 1: not named Indianapolis? For maybe some of the same reasons.

2129
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 5: Good question, Detroit is my answer. And I went there

2130
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 5: last year and spent a week when they were a

2131
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 5: couple of weeks away from the playoffs, and you know

2132
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 5: how you just go through a locker room. I always

2133
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 5: felt like the locker room was the one place that

2134
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 5: teams can't lie. It's the one place with a pr

2135
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 5: BS won't sit through. Right, Like I can go talk

2136
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 5: to players, I can ask them questions, I can talk

2137
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 5: to coaches, and at the podium you can hear one

2138
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 5: thing and it's whatever. But like when you go to

2139
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 5: a locker room, like the locker room's real. And I

2140
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 5: walked out of there after a week and I felt

2141
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 5: like I got it, Like I get why they believe

2142
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Speaker 5: in Dan Campbell. He might be cheesy at the podium,

2143
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,799
Speaker 5: but they freaking love that guy. And the players showed

2144
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 5: me why. They told me stories that made me understand that.

2145
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 5: And it was really cool because not that long ago

2146
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 5: they were an absolute dunster fire and they did it

2147
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 5: the right way, and they did it when nobody believed

2148
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 5: they could do it, and there was no shortcut and

2149
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:00,719
Speaker 5: there was no secret, and there was no huge free

2150
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 5: agent signing that changed everything. I mean, they traded for

2151
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 5: Jared Goff and everyone thought he was going to last

2152
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 5: a year and a half and be run out of town,

2153
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 5: and they became one of the best teams in the league.

2154
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 3: And kind of seeing how they did it.

2155
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 5: And talking to all their players was like, this is

2156
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 5: this is literally the coolest thing about football was being

2157
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 5: in that locker room and understanding why they did it.

2158
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 5: And then conversely, you know, last year, James Boyd, my

2159
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 5: colleague and I wrote a story about why the Colts

2160
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 5: were falling apart again, and it was a very, very

2161
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 5: different locker room. There was a lot of players that

2162
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 5: didn't believe in the direction of the team, that were

2163
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 5: questioning some of the decisions that were made, and that

2164
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 5: were tired of losing. And the quote that we got

2165
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 5: from an anonymous player literally said, if you look around

2166
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 5: the league at the teams that win, like the Chiefs

2167
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 5: and the Lions, you can see why they win. So

2168
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 5: it's not that difficult to tell why some teams win

2169
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 5: and why some teams don't.

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01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 1: Do you think the Colts those same players last year

2171
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 1: that said, and I'm paraphrasing, this is a franchise with

2172
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 1: no direction. Do you believe that they now feel that

2173
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 1: direction is there.

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01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:07,640
Speaker 5: Well it's July thirty, first, Jake. Everybody believes they're in

2175
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 5: the right direction. Look around the league. Every single quote

2176
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:12,600
Speaker 5: you're going to read is a player is in the

2177
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 5: best shape of his life, the coach believes in everything.

2178
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: Guys are flying around making plays.

2179
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 5: Right, It's yeah, I just tune it out. But to

2180
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 5: answer your question, everything's going to come down to the quarterback.

2181
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 5: This is a good roster, it's a pretty good team.

2182
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 5: They could win the division. Not a great division, they

2183
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 5: could absolutely win the division. It's going to come down

2184
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,599
Speaker 5: to if they get consistent quarterback play. And I am

2185
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 5: still vious on that front.

2186
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So with that, and I know we gotta let

2187
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 1: you run here in a minute, Zach, But when you

2188
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: talk about exactly that, the Colts, in your opinion, the

2189
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 1: Colts ceiling is what even if they're to win the

2190
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: division there, their ceiling is is what record and like

2191
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: what slot, like like let's say a year from now

2192
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 1: they're drafting where.

2193
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like it's if everything goes right, there's

2194
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 5: still like the sixth best team in the conference, right right,

2195
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:11,519
Speaker 5: Like I mean, I just can't the city, Yeah, I

2196
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:15,080
Speaker 5: mean Denver has a really really good defense, and they

2197
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 5: have the guy at quarterback. And when you don't have

2198
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 5: the guy at quarterback, there's a ceiling. And there's a

2199
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 5: ceiling with Daniel Jones, and that's why the Giants decided

2200
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 5: to move on from him. And I think that's the

2201
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 5: tantalizing things for the fan base right now, right like,

2202
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 5: where does the fan base want this quarterback competition to go?

2203
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 3: Right?

2204
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 5: They are desperate for Anthony richards to figure it out

2205
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 5: because his ceiling is so much higher. I don't know

2206
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 5: if that happens. I don't know if it happens in

2207
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 5: a year. But with Daniel Jones, I think that's a

2208
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,240
Speaker 5: guy that coaches trust a little bit more. I mean,

2209
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 5: the Coats were not a bad team last year. They

2210
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 5: went eight to nine, and if they wouldn't have turned

2211
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 5: the ball over so many times, and Richardson was a

2212
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 5: part of a lot of that, they probably win a

2213
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 5: couple of more of those games and they're probably playing

2214
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 5: in a playoff game. So it just depends on what

2215
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 5: they want. But you know, the options are there. Now

2216
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 5: is the time to dream, right because it's August and

2217
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 5: and and nothing has you know, no one's lost the

2218
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 5: game yet. But I just can't see them leap frogging

2219
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 5: any teams in in the AFC that are really really good,

2220
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 5: with the exception of maybe Houston, Like I think they

2221
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 5: can sneak past Houston, but again, I need to see

2222
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 5: I need to see real consistent quarters in play.

2223
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: Zach, I hate saying this, but I'll say it again.

2224
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,799
Speaker 1: I've said it on the show. They can win the division.

2225
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: You are correct, but the AFC South is the junk

2226
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: drawer of divisions, right, It's the division. You open it

2227
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: up and there's like a roll of scotch tape that's

2228
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 1: been there forever, you know, a bottle opener, a cassette

2229
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 1: tape you forgot about, and you know what I mean.

2230
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, does that matter to them? You know, like, of

2231
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 5: course they'll take it and run with it because I've

2232
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 5: never done.

2233
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 3: It under this TM.

2234
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true, all right, Zach. Well let you get now.

2235
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: You said Ashburn, Virginia.

2236
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 2: Is that right?

2237
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:54,960
Speaker 3: Yes, sir?

2238
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 5: Heading to Tampa soon?

2239
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 1: Well, enjoy Tampa. It'll be like it was here yesterday

2240
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 1: and then that'll be sixty five the next day, all right, Zack,

2241
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 1: appreciate it as always. Zach Keifer from the athletic.

2242
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 3: You're the best.

2243
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 1: Thanks, Jake, appreciate it. Zach Keiper joining us on the program.

2244
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:11,760
Speaker 1: You know he mentioned Jared Goff. I think a fascinating

2245
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 1: documentary or article can be done about Jared Goff. I

2246
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:20,559
Speaker 1: have the utmost respect. I don't know anything about Jared

2247
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Goff other than this. He was another Think about this,

2248
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 1: just think about this. He was the number one selection

2249
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. He was born and raised, to

2250
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 1: my knowledge, in California. He played collegiately in California. He

2251
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: gets drafted by the Rams in Los Angeles. He's living

2252
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: that La life. Baby, He's got a girlfriend that's a

2253
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. He's the quarterback of the Rams.

2254
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: They go to the Super Bowl. So not only is

2255
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: his name in lights, but his name is also in

2256
01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 1: the starting aspect of the Super Bowl. And he goes

2257
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 1: into that Super Bowl and he looks like he's never

2258
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: seen a defense before, and he has a terrible game.

2259
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: And that happens. Tony Easton started a Super Bowl and

2260
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 1: didn't complete a pass. It happens right, Peyton Manning started

2261
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and had the opening snap go nine

2262
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: feet over his head and an avalanche came. It happens, said,

2263
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: the best of the best and the most mediocre, the

2264
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 1: most mediocre. But after all that happened, Jared Goff, who

2265
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: was born and raised in California, played in LA played

2266
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: for the Rams, took him to the Super Bowl. All

2267
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 1: of it gets traded to literally the Siberia of the NFL,

2268
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: the most lowly of franchises, in the worst possible weather

2269
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 1: and a place that has been literally the laughing stock

2270
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: of the NFL, and in a city that is struggling

2271
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: itself to find its old identity, and a lot of quarterbacks,

2272
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 1: a lot of players in that situation, in any sport

2273
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 1: would have folded up tent and been like, I'm good

2274
01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 1: and they were terrible when he got there, terrible. And

2275
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:05,280
Speaker 1: that dude had two choices to get busy living or

2276
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 1: get busy dying, and he chose the positive root. And

2277
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 1: look where they are and will they go to the

2278
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? I don't know. Will they win the Super Bowl?

2279
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know that the Lions are

2280
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: on the right track they've been. You know, last year

2281
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 1: was a heartbreak for them, but their offense is outstanding,

2282
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 1: and you know they they are now one of the

2283
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: top teams in the league. And I got to give

2284
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 1: that guy. I'm happy for the dude. I don't know

2285
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: him at all. And when I saw the video of

2286
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,600
Speaker 1: his girlfriend celebrating their first win after like twelve straight

2287
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: losses in Detroit and she was doing a swimsuit model

2288
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: the photo shoot on some island somewhere, and they showed

2289
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 1: her jumping up and down, you know, I was like, Okay,

2290
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: so maybe I shouldn't feel totally.

2291
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 2: Sorry for him, but I'm impressed with it.

2292
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: I just think I just think it's a great story

2293
01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 1: and I think it's one that if they do go

2294
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, you've got to be happy about it.

2295
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: And I just said, get busy living. Speaking of live

2296
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 1: that is actually coming to Indianapolis, I'm talking about professional golf,

2297
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 1: and one that obviously from the time that it began

2298
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: was you know, there was a level of polarization one

2299
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 1: of the words I use a lot. But some of

2300
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 1: the big names in golf are going to be here.

2301
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 1: They're going to be here up in Westfield and we

2302
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: will talk to one of the great golf personalities who

2303
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 1: has been an analyst for Live Golf, and we'll do

2304
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: it next I will admit to the fact that when

2305
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: it comes to live Golf, I'm pretty naive about it.

2306
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: And I don't think that you tell me, Eddie, is

2307
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: that irresponsible of me? Or do you think I mean,

2308
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: obviously I know golf and I know about the You know,

2309
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: what's fascinating is that when Live was first announced, there

2310
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: was this, you know, a lot of question about it,

2311
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 1: and then there was the discussion that it was all

2312
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 1: going to unify in general. And what I do know

2313
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 1: is that Live Golf is going to be here in

2314
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: Westfield as a matter of fact, Chatham Hills coming up

2315
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 1: on August fifteenth through the seventeenth. And you have a

2316
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: team aspect to it, you have like individual championship aspect

2317
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,640
Speaker 1: to it. There is a lot that goes into it.

2318
01:58:17,200 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: And David Ferdie, who is of course one of the

2319
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 1: synonymous personalities with the game of golf and media coverage

2320
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 1: of it in particular, joins us now on the guest

2321
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: line to talk about exactly that August fifteenth through seventeenth

2322
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: here in Central Indiana. David, it's a pleasure. How are you.

2323
01:58:34,440 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 3: I'm fine, Jod, Thanks for having me.

2324
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to begin with this and I

2325
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: will say this with almost apologetically, okay, and that is

2326
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 1: that you know, obviously I know of and I was

2327
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: just mentioning with Live Golf and from the time of

2328
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 1: its inception to now the evolution of it, and in particular,

2329
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, there was so much that was made about

2330
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 1: the golfers that went over to it at that time.

2331
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 1: Then there was the discussion that it was all going

2332
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:08,600
Speaker 1: to unify and the the differing aspects of it from

2333
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,320
Speaker 1: the typical and traditional PGA tour. So can you explain

2334
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 1: to me, and I apologize for it that way, but

2335
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: just kind of get me up to speed on everything

2336
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be taking place out at Chatham Hills.

2337
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 3: Well, you know, first of all, I woke up this

2338
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 3: morning and the first thing we came to mind was

2339
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 3: a pork tenderloine sandwich. Why would that faith?

2340
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,440
Speaker 1: Well, because you're coming to Indiana or the State Fair

2341
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 1: starts tomorrow, one of those two, does it.

2342
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 3: It's the one thing that I remember about it, you know.

2343
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:46,360
Speaker 3: But no, to answer your question, you know, we were

2344
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 3: just a different product. It's a different league from the

2345
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 3: PGA Tour or the VP work or or anything that's

2346
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 3: ever been done. It was a dream of Greg Norman

2347
01:59:56,280 --> 02:00:00,320
Speaker 3: for many years, you know, the meg Gulf More Globe,

2348
02:00:00,680 --> 02:00:03,520
Speaker 3: and that's what we've done. And we've got the team aspects,

2349
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:06,320
Speaker 3: you know, where it's forced course to count over three runs,

2350
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 3: which means that even if the player isn't uh, you know,

2351
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 3: involved in the individual championship, you know, which we'll we'll

2352
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 3: cry on our season long individual champion in Indianapolis, his

2353
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:22,720
Speaker 3: team score matters, you know, So even if the player

2354
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 3: hasn't played well the first couple of days, he can

2355
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 3: still uh. And we've seen it over and over again,

2356
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 3: you know, players that haven't played particularly well the first

2357
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 3: day or two, you know, come in at the end

2358
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 3: and really make a difference in that team contest, you know.

2359
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 3: So I mean that's the main difference, uh, you know

2360
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:44,920
Speaker 3: between your ordinary golf tournament and the leg golf league

2361
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 3: is the team aspect to it. And the fact that

2362
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 3: we are only three runs, we're quicker, we have the

2363
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 3: shotguns start, everybody's on the golf course at the same time,

2364
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, and it's it's just a different experience. Shape.

2365
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:58,960
Speaker 1: By the way, do you we can get you a

2366
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 1: Port Tenorland sandwich, I mean a bread and tenderloin is

2367
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 1: the way to go if you're winning Rome, right, David, Winning.

2368
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 3: Rome, Absolutely, that's what I've been thinking of.

2369
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:08,920
Speaker 2: I like that. I like it.

2370
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 1: Uh so, David in terms of that championship, by the way,

2371
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 1: and I do know this. I mean you're talking big

2372
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 1: names of big stars here, right, because the Chambo, John Ram, Yeah,

2373
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, Joaquin Neman. I think those are those that

2374
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 1: are in contention for the championship, correct.

2375
02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. We've got Joaquin Neiman who has just

2376
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 3: played out of his mind this season. He's won five times,

2377
02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 3: but he has an extraordinary season. And whenever he hasn't

2378
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:40,120
Speaker 3: played well, he scored virtually no points. For any time

2379
02:01:40,160 --> 02:01:44,560
Speaker 3: he plays well, he just wins. And uh, you know,

2380
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 3: we got John Rahm right there behind him fighting De Shambo.

2381
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 3: They also have a mathematical chance. It's going to take

2382
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 3: something special from from Ram or Deshambo to get past

2383
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 3: Joaquin Neiman this year though, that's for sure.

2384
02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, golf is such a fascinating game, David, because

2385
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:06,040
Speaker 1: of the fact that it is at least and I'm

2386
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: talking about for the Weekend Warrior, right, I Mean, these

2387
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:11,920
Speaker 1: guys are the top of the game. I understand that.

2388
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:16,200
Speaker 1: But for the average person, it is such a mental game,

2389
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 1: and you played it. I'm curious on a professional level,

2390
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 1: and in particular when you're going at this aspect where

2391
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: you're kind of allowed to reset if you will, what

2392
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 1: is the mental aspect at this level of golf? Does

2393
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 1: it stay in guys' heads after a bad shot or

2394
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:36,879
Speaker 1: a bad round like it does the guy that's playing,

2395
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, once every three weeks with his buddies.

2396
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:44,680
Speaker 3: Well, I think it was Marlene and Jatrix says, you know,

2397
02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:46,800
Speaker 3: all you need for a happy life is good health

2398
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 3: and a bad memory. And it really helps and golf

2399
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 3: to have, you know, a short memory, you know, after

2400
02:02:54,480 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 3: that bad shot or that bad hole, to be able

2401
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:58,480
Speaker 3: to put it behind you. And it's one of the

2402
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 3: things you know that makes so it just it's even

2403
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 3: you know, the eighteen twenty four handicapper can go out

2404
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 3: there and hit a shot that John Ram might hit,

2405
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 3: you know, around the greens grand He's not going to

2406
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 3: hit it so far up the tee. But you know,

2407
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:16,440
Speaker 3: it's a game that everybody can play. There's the pro

2408
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 3: am aspect to it as well, where you can actually

2409
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 3: play with the best players in the world.

2410
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 8: You know.

2411
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 3: So it's a game that captures people. You know, it's

2412
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:28,560
Speaker 3: almost it's like a drug, and that you know, you

2413
02:03:28,640 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 3: get one head of it for the rom you can

2414
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 3: be hooked for life. Yeah.

2415
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think every and listen, I'm a terrible golfer, David, right,

2416
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 1: but even I every once in a while, and I

2417
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: have not been golfing long, but every once in a

2418
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: while you get that shot where you're like, Okay, I

2419
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 1: get it now.

2420
02:03:44,720 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, yeah, exactly, yeah, and

2421
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 3: you think why can't I do that all the time? Right?

2422
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:50,600
Speaker 1: And then I also have a shot where I think

2423
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:52,480
Speaker 1: to myself, why I need to go back to basketball?

2424
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:56,680
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, well I'm at that stage myself. No.

2425
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 1: David Fardy is our guest. By the way, is fifteenth

2426
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 1: through the seventeenth Live Golf will be at Chatham Hills

2427
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: in Westfield. It will crown a season champion. In addition

2428
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 1: to that, David, one of the things that I wanted

2429
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 1: you to touch on is I was looking at the schedule

2430
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I understand that golf is that game

2431
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:21,280
Speaker 1: of focus, but there's a level of celebration. It seemingly

2432
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 1: looks like with this as well, because I don't know

2433
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:26,480
Speaker 1: that you often see concerts or you know, at concerts

2434
02:04:26,520 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 1: at golf events and that kind of thing. I mean,

2435
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 1: there's there's a wide array, is there not of entertainment

2436
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:33,600
Speaker 1: that kind of ties into all of it.

2437
02:04:35,080 --> 02:04:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. I mean it's we're gonna have Riley

2438
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:44,400
Speaker 3: Greene on Friday and then Jason Deriddle, and I am

2439
02:04:44,440 --> 02:04:48,240
Speaker 3: not familiar with either of those guys our music. I'm

2440
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 3: more of a rough mon and off on chopin sort

2441
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:53,080
Speaker 3: of a guy. But the people behind their on to

2442
02:04:53,120 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 3: the concert afterwards, and you know, yes, you're into that

2443
02:04:56,920 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 3: kind of thing. It's just a different sounding experience. You know,

2444
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 3: we got local culture, the fan village. You just got

2445
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 3: plenty of things for kids to do. There's live music,

2446
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:11,920
Speaker 3: and it's much more of a celebration of golf. You know.

2447
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,400
Speaker 1: The I got to ask you, David Well, I have

2448
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: you here real quick. Anytime you venture into something new,

2449
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:21,760
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's out of your comfort zone, it's uncomfortable.

2450
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:23,480
Speaker 1: It's a challenge. You know, for a lot of people,

2451
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 1: golf would be exactly that, right, Maybe trying a pork

2452
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:31,440
Speaker 1: tenorloin sandwich would be one of those The most terrifying

2453
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:33,400
Speaker 1: thing I've ever had to do in my life. I

2454
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:35,920
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier, was trying to drive a rental car

2455
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 1: in your home area, your home country of Ireland. Now,

2456
02:05:39,240 --> 02:05:40,960
Speaker 1: are you terrified when you're drive in the US?

2457
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 3: Oh no, No, I've been here thirty three years.

2458
02:05:44,520 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 1: Well I know, but I'm even still right because it's

2459
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 1: the It's it's a totally different feel man Like, I

2460
02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 1: don't see how you ever get used to it.

2461
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 3: Well, when I go back home, We've just been in

2462
02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:59,280
Speaker 3: England on those n real country lanes. You know, I

2463
02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 3: drew figure than Ireland. I just drives on the medal

2464
02:06:02,120 --> 02:06:03,280
Speaker 3: and trying to avoid the sheet.

2465
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And it's also the fact because you're

2466
02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a naturalized citizen now are you not?

2467
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 1: Are you a nationalized citizen? Yeah, so I do that.

2468
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: But like it's the fact of driving on the opposites.

2469
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't mind driving on the other lane, it's sitting

2470
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:21,120
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of the car. It's amazing how

2471
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 1: much that throws off your depth perception.

2472
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you're driving a manual. Yeah, forget which

2473
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:30,840
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of renting cars in the

2474
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:32,320
Speaker 3: UK and Ireland still are.

2475
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget it. No chance, absolutely no chance. Live

2476
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:41,480
Speaker 1: golf in particular, and the courses that you guys have

2477
02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 1: seen now and now going in to Chatham Hills and Westfield,

2478
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 1: is there any way to know, David, which golfer this

2479
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:54,800
Speaker 1: particular course may favor or is it for the golfers

2480
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: that are on the Live Tour? Has the style and

2481
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 1: or the courses that you've played forced some guys to

2482
02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:03,839
Speaker 1: tweak a little bit their style?

2483
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 3: Well, this is a peak guy. In fact, I think

2484
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:11,080
Speaker 3: it was maybe the last peak guy that he ever did.

2485
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 3: And uh, you know the only one that I'm really

2486
02:07:15,440 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 3: familiar with, and it would be Crooked Stick. I played

2487
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 3: the PGA Championship back there in ninety one. But peak

2488
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 3: ie golf courses shert anybody that hits the ball high

2489
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 3: depending on that. And I haven't seen Chatham Hills yet,

2490
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 3: but you know, any Peak he didn't make any bad

2491
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:37,000
Speaker 3: golf courses. He made a few weird ones. Yeah, where

2492
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 3: you got a lot of railroad ties and and uh,

2493
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 3: difficult dog legs and things like that. You know, so

2494
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:45,560
Speaker 3: somebody who drives the ball well, uh, you know, like

2495
02:07:45,640 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 3: a Bryson to Shamba for instance, you know, he hits

2496
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:52,000
Speaker 3: the ball not only four hundred yards, but he can

2497
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 3: hit it straighter than the most you know, it would

2498
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:56,720
Speaker 3: it would shut him, It would shit any of the

2499
02:07:56,760 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 3: longer hitters. Uh. But then you get guys that are

2500
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 3: little technicians, you know, like an AA banswer, you know,

2501
02:08:04,640 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 3: someone like that that can sort of think is where

2502
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 3: I run the golf course and also search them, you know,

2503
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 3: a peace gid course. So you know, it's differ going

2504
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 3: to pick a winner.

2505
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:18,520
Speaker 1: Your highest PGA fine, you know, standings at the end

2506
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:21,480
Speaker 1: of a PGA championship. If I'm not mistaken, you were

2507
02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 1: within the top ten and ninety one at that PGA

2508
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 1: Championship at Crooked Stick. I think that might have been

2509
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 1: your best PGA finish.

2510
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think I finished six behind John Dailey. Yeah.

2511
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:35,080
Speaker 1: Well, so Daily won it. And it's so fascinating because Daily,

2512
02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:37,360
Speaker 1: of course was like an you know, an alternate at

2513
02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:40,839
Speaker 1: the time, and I realized, for you, David, being a golfer,

2514
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 1: this probably was not the case. But I think I

2515
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 1: represent the majority of sports fans that literally probably not

2516
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 1: until like Saturday of that tournament, had ever even heard

2517
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 1: of John Daily. What is your recollection when you look

2518
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:56,839
Speaker 1: back on what was a magical weekend in Central Indiana

2519
02:08:56,880 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 1: for that ninety one Crooked Stick PGA of just kind

2520
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 1: of the daily phenomenon that unfolded before our very eyes.

2521
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:06,880
Speaker 1: What was it like from a player's perspective.

2522
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 3: It was amazing to watch, you know. And I've known

2523
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 3: John for a few years. The first time I played

2524
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 3: it with him was done in Africa in eighty eight,

2525
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:17,720
Speaker 3: eighty seven, eighty eight, and I was leading a tournament

2526
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:20,200
Speaker 3: by a shot going into the last line, and I

2527
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 3: got drawn with this skinny, blonde haired American kid, you know,

2528
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 3: with a mullet, and I thought, who the hell is

2529
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:29,840
Speaker 3: this guy? I've never heard of him. And I went

2530
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 3: out in twenty nine shots and I'm still only a

2531
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 3: shot in front of him. I thought what And I

2532
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 3: hadn't seen him, and he was either one hundred yards

2533
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:39,600
Speaker 3: in front of me, one hundred yards left or one

2534
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 3: hundred yards right. And he ended up beating me by

2535
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:47,680
Speaker 3: a shot. And he said to me at the prize

2536
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 3: giving we're standing at the prize giving ceremony, he says,

2537
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to have a party back my room at

2538
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 3: the sampans On Hotel in Johannesburg, he said, would you

2539
02:09:58,320 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 3: like to come? And I looked at him and I thought,

2540
02:10:00,480 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 3: you know, that's probably not a good idea, but I'm

2541
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 3: gonna but I'm gonna go. Yeah, and I went, and

2542
02:10:09,400 --> 02:10:15,360
Speaker 3: we were awake for about five weeks after that. It

2543
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:17,680
Speaker 3: was you know, I don't remember going to bed. I mean,

2544
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,840
Speaker 3: he was unbelievable and that I mean, this is a

2545
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 3: guy who won two major championships. People forget that he

2546
02:10:24,720 --> 02:10:29,360
Speaker 3: was a phenomenally talented player. And the best photograph I

2547
02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 3: ever saw of John Daily was he was sitting on

2548
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:39,320
Speaker 3: the steps of the clubhouse Saint Andrew's the the Open

2549
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:43,440
Speaker 3: championship and he won, eating a McDonald's, you know, with

2550
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 3: the rapper sitting on the ground beside him, with jeans

2551
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:49,480
Speaker 3: poking out of the bottom of his rain pens. And

2552
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:52,560
Speaker 3: I thought, well, that's my boy right there. You know,

2553
02:10:52,760 --> 02:10:55,160
Speaker 3: he was a man of the people. He still is.

2554
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 3: People loved him. He's a generous soul, an incredible player,

2555
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:05,200
Speaker 3: and you know, it's just so beautifully flawed that I

2556
02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 3: think a lot of people identified with him, because I

2557
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:08,600
Speaker 3: certainly did.

2558
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 1: Man that shot of him coming down, you know, at eighteen,

2559
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:17,480
Speaker 1: and you know, it's so interesting. David David Faride's our guest.

2560
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 1: We're talking about live golf. It's going to be coming

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02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 1: up at Chatham Hills August fifteenth through the seventeenth. That

2562
02:11:22,480 --> 02:11:25,600
Speaker 1: shot of Daily as he's coming down the fairway on

2563
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: nineteen and you can see that when it hits him

2564
02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 1: and he realizes what's taking place and he starts pumping

2565
02:11:32,120 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 1: his fist. It truly was a magical moment. Now, obviously

2566
02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:39,280
Speaker 1: we know about and you know, you have been very

2567
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:41,960
Speaker 1: open and I commend it about some of the things

2568
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 1: that you've overcome, some of the demons that you've battled

2569
02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 1: throughout your life. So to his John Daly as what

2570
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:50,800
Speaker 1: I presume to be a friend of yours, have you

2571
02:11:50,920 --> 02:11:52,840
Speaker 1: had and do you still have at times you know,

2572
02:11:52,960 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 1: concerned for him?

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02:11:54,840 --> 02:11:58,800
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, you know. And those things that you talk about,

2574
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:01,880
Speaker 3: you know, addiction, depress and anxiety, you know, those are

2575
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 3: things that I haven't overcome. I don't think you know,

2576
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:09,800
Speaker 3: the people who live with those things never overcome them.

2577
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:12,880
Speaker 3: You know, you live with them and you take your

2578
02:12:13,320 --> 02:12:16,600
Speaker 3: psych meds and and you try to, you know, live

2579
02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:21,160
Speaker 3: one day at a time. But I I struggled with it.

2580
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 3: I I don't have perfect attendance, and it's something that

2581
02:12:26,280 --> 02:12:29,240
Speaker 3: I deal with every day of my life. And I

2582
02:12:29,280 --> 02:12:35,200
Speaker 3: know Johnny does tour. He you know, the demons that

2583
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:37,240
Speaker 3: that came to get him in the middle part of

2584
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 3: his career. You know how he survived that. I don't know.

2585
02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:45,800
Speaker 3: It's but it's one of those things. It's it's not

2586
02:12:46,000 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 3: talked about often enough. You know, the people in the

2587
02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 3: public eye who do suffer from from these things, you know,

2588
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:56,960
Speaker 3: need to talk about them more because it's an epidemic

2589
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 3: in our in our country and our children. You know,

2590
02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:03,160
Speaker 3: we need to realize that.

2591
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:08,480
Speaker 1: What would you say, David in conclusion to you know,

2592
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:10,360
Speaker 1: the thing I think is important is we kind of

2593
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,720
Speaker 1: never know who might be listening, right, We never know

2594
02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:16,360
Speaker 1: who might who might gain something. Yeah, So the guy

2595
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:18,880
Speaker 1: or the gal or the young person that happens to

2596
02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 1: hear this interview that here's a guy that was a

2597
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:26,240
Speaker 1: professional golfer that's on TV that works for Live and thinks, man,

2598
02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 1: that guy's got the world of his fingertips And here

2599
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:30,720
Speaker 1: I am just trying to get my own lot in

2600
02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:33,040
Speaker 1: life and I'm struggling. What would you say to that

2601
02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:34,160
Speaker 1: person that's struggling?

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02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 3: Well, when I first came to this country. It was

2603
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:43,080
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety three and I was in the middle of

2604
02:13:43,120 --> 02:13:50,040
Speaker 3: a horrifying British Todd Loyd divorce that was all over

2605
02:13:50,080 --> 02:13:53,880
Speaker 3: the newspapers. And you know, at the depths of an

2606
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:59,440
Speaker 3: undiagnosed depression, an alcoholic and a drug addict, and you know,

2607
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:04,120
Speaker 3: my Dame was head in size very quickly. I only

2608
02:14:04,160 --> 02:14:06,600
Speaker 3: played two years two and a half years here of

2609
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 3: my twenty year career. The rest of it I spent

2610
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:12,440
Speaker 3: around the world. But I met this girl from Mississippi

2611
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:15,880
Speaker 3: and she looked at me and said, yeah, I can

2612
02:14:15,920 --> 02:14:19,600
Speaker 3: fix that. You know, everybody needs to have someone in

2613
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 3: their life, you know, someone that can take the place

2614
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 3: of drugs and alcohol, someone that can can be there

2615
02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:27,880
Speaker 3: for you, you know, and then the first thing you

2616
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:30,400
Speaker 3: need to do is talk to them. You need to

2617
02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:33,240
Speaker 3: talk to somebody about this, you know, recognize that it

2618
02:14:33,360 --> 02:14:36,280
Speaker 3: is a problem for you, and understand that it can

2619
02:14:36,320 --> 02:14:39,160
Speaker 3: be you know, something that you're you're able to deal

2620
02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:42,840
Speaker 3: with and even turn to your own advantage. People made

2621
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:46,440
Speaker 3: fun of me at school. The teachers made fun of me.

2622
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:49,840
Speaker 3: I have a ninth grade education because you know, I

2623
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 3: dropped out as a classic maybe on the verge of

2624
02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 3: the spectrum, you know, child with a learning disability, and

2625
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:02,920
Speaker 3: I I ended up making fun of myself as a

2626
02:15:02,960 --> 02:15:06,120
Speaker 3: self defense and I found I was much better at

2627
02:15:06,120 --> 02:15:09,720
Speaker 3: it than they were, and that sort of sued me

2628
02:15:09,840 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 3: in good stead all these years. You know, I've done

2629
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:16,400
Speaker 3: ten years as a stand up comic and in places

2630
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:21,040
Speaker 3: around the country, in smaller theaters, you know, until COVIDS

2631
02:15:21,080 --> 02:15:22,800
Speaker 3: kind of happened and that sort of knocked out on

2632
02:15:22,840 --> 02:15:26,680
Speaker 3: the head. But you know, the very first thing you

2633
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:29,880
Speaker 3: need to do is talk about it, you know, and

2634
02:15:30,080 --> 02:15:32,840
Speaker 3: recognize you know that you have a problem, and there

2635
02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:34,680
Speaker 3: are people that will help you.

2636
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:38,440
Speaker 1: David. There was a television show in the late seventies

2637
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 1: with Valerie Burtonelli on it that fictionally took place in Indianapolis.

2638
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:43,560
Speaker 1: The name of the show was One Day at a Time,

2639
02:15:43,640 --> 02:15:45,960
Speaker 1: And I guess that's a mantra that all of us

2640
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:48,640
Speaker 1: can live by. And then when the one day comes along,

2641
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:51,680
Speaker 1: that is August the fifteenth, you know that you have

2642
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:54,200
Speaker 1: three days of live golf at Chatham Hills up in Westfield,

2643
02:15:54,240 --> 02:15:58,200
Speaker 1: August fifteenth through the seventeenth. Great conversation, great stories, and

2644
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:00,600
Speaker 1: certainly wish you the best in terms of your time

2645
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:04,520
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, your pursuit of a tenderloin sandwich, and good health.

2646
02:16:04,280 --> 02:16:07,879
Speaker 3: To you to fight a lost Jake.

2647
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:10,520
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. David Faride joining us on the program. We'll

2648
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:11,880
Speaker 1: come back. We'll put a tie on all of it.

2649
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:17,440
Speaker 1: J ANDV will take the handoff as well. Next told

2650
02:16:17,440 --> 02:16:21,200
Speaker 1: you man. Every time I hear this song, I think

2651
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:25,600
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty two. I was on the Giants Alisonville

2652
02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:30,440
Speaker 1: Little League and we won our little league championship and

2653
02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:35,720
Speaker 1: went in to a pizza party and this song. Somebody

2654
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:37,920
Speaker 1: had this song. They actually had a jukebox and we

2655
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:41,640
Speaker 1: played it. We each got to pick one song, and

2656
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:44,600
Speaker 1: like all twelve of us picked come on, Eileen. And

2657
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 1: every time I hear it, I think about the little

2658
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,960
Speaker 1: League baseball party, the pizza party for winning the championship.

2659
02:16:49,959 --> 02:16:52,560
Speaker 1: I've mentioned before, by the way, Chicago's Pizza eighteen central

2660
02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 1: Indiana locations, twenty five state wide. One of the things

2661
02:16:55,560 --> 02:16:58,879
Speaker 1: I love about it is when exactly that you know,

2662
02:16:59,000 --> 02:17:02,560
Speaker 1: kids parties or a family event, you want a place

2663
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:05,480
Speaker 1: like that when you're doing a celebration that gets it

2664
02:17:05,520 --> 02:17:08,800
Speaker 1: and has that neighborhood, community, family feel. And that's what

2665
02:17:08,879 --> 02:17:12,200
Speaker 1: you get from Chicago's Pizza. And every single time I

2666
02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 1: hear that song, I think of that, and I think

2667
02:17:14,160 --> 02:17:15,920
Speaker 1: about all the kids that are able to celebrate the

2668
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 1: exact same at any of their Central Indiana Chicago's Pizza

2669
02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:23,560
Speaker 1: locations because they get it. They just get that atmosphere,

2670
02:17:23,600 --> 02:17:28,080
Speaker 1: because they are a family owned business since nineteen seventy nine.

2671
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:30,959
Speaker 1: Jamb I forgot he is out at Colts Camp because

2672
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:34,480
Speaker 1: it is a night practice tonight, and I would assume

2673
02:17:34,520 --> 02:17:36,800
Speaker 1: that is still a go. The weather is less than

2674
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:40,000
Speaker 1: it's funny. When I was out there, it was a

2675
02:17:40,040 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 1: blazing inferno. And now John's out there and it's like

2676
02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:43,800
Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest, right.

2677
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:45,920
Speaker 2: It's almost like San Diego.

2678
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:49,320
Speaker 1: Jake, let me tell you something, Eddie, San Diego seventy

2679
02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:52,000
Speaker 1: two and Sonny three hundred and sixty three days a year.

2680
02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:57,440
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to San Diego? I have unbelievable right, Yes,

2681
02:17:58,920 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 1: do you know that?

2682
02:17:59,840 --> 02:18:01,880
Speaker 2: I believe this is correct? I would love to go back.

2683
02:18:02,000 --> 02:18:02,959
Speaker 2: I've only been there once.

2684
02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:05,560
Speaker 1: I believe what I'm about to say is correct.

2685
02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:09,119
Speaker 2: Went to the Tom Cruise House from Top Gun.

2686
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:14,120
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, uh, San Diego? Is am I correct in

2687
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:16,800
Speaker 1: saying the largest city in the United States without a

2688
02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:22,920
Speaker 1: professional sports championship, right ooh probably, And if the Colts

2689
02:18:22,920 --> 02:18:25,199
Speaker 1: had not won a Super Bowl, Indianapolis was on deck

2690
02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:28,320
Speaker 1: if San Diego would have won one. But San Diego,

2691
02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 1: I believe still holds that claim. I'd love to see

2692
02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:35,119
Speaker 1: the Podres win one, just be for Tony Gwynn.

2693
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:37,279
Speaker 2: The little brother of the Los Angeles Dondres.

2694
02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:40,280
Speaker 1: Why they are that man and those fan bases when

2695
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:43,200
Speaker 1: I say they hate each other like it's you do

2696
02:18:43,280 --> 02:18:44,720
Speaker 1: not want I went to. Now, I don't know if

2697
02:18:44,720 --> 02:18:46,039
Speaker 1: you know this or not, Eddie, if I've mentioned this

2698
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:47,320
Speaker 1: to you before, I know I mentioned it in the

2699
02:18:47,320 --> 02:18:49,959
Speaker 1: Morning Show. My buddy Jeff Hester and I went to

2700
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:54,560
Speaker 1: a Podres Dodgers game in nineteen ninety six, the last.

2701
02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:56,360
Speaker 1: It was the last home stand of the year for

2702
02:18:56,400 --> 02:18:58,600
Speaker 1: the Padres. They had to win I think two out

2703
02:18:58,600 --> 02:19:00,680
Speaker 1: of three to win the NL West. They did exactly that,

2704
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:03,920
Speaker 1: and while I was there, I participated in the largest

2705
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:08,879
Speaker 1: at that time, the largest participated by one group group, macharena.

2706
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:12,400
Speaker 1: Really yeah, they played this. They were like they even

2707
02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:15,640
Speaker 1: had somebody come out and instruct how to do the macharena.

2708
02:19:15,720 --> 02:19:17,640
Speaker 1: Then they played the song and we all did the

2709
02:19:17,640 --> 02:19:21,760
Speaker 1: macharena and we I don't think they gave like any

2710
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:24,039
Speaker 1: prizes for us to claim to make that claim, but

2711
02:19:24,080 --> 02:19:27,320
Speaker 1: nonetheless we were able to claim it. We went to

2712
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:34,400
Speaker 1: the world and participated in the world's largest macharena. Okay, okay,

2713
02:19:34,440 --> 02:19:35,800
Speaker 1: there we go, now, hold.

2714
02:19:35,640 --> 02:19:36,120
Speaker 2: On, I can do it.

2715
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:45,400
Speaker 1: You're ready, Okay, here we go. You ready? They see

2716
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:47,880
Speaker 1: that right there on the YouTube, like did you see

2717
02:19:47,879 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 1: how things just spiked right there? But doing the macharina.

2718
02:19:50,400 --> 02:19:52,440
Speaker 1: I got on the sexy Adida's long sleeve shirt and

2719
02:19:52,440 --> 02:19:54,280
Speaker 1: then I did the makaraina right there. I got number.

2720
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:57,839
Speaker 1: I got news for ever. That's the sound of the

2721
02:19:57,959 --> 02:20:03,200
Speaker 1: viewership of this program, female listeners now twenty six, right,

2722
02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:05,520
Speaker 1: and we know that Shannon was listening earlier because she

2723
02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:07,840
Speaker 1: sent a todd retext, right.

2724
02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:09,600
Speaker 2: And we know that everyone's gonna hate me later for

2725
02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:11,320
Speaker 2: playing this song because that it's gonna be stuck in your.

2726
02:20:11,200 --> 02:20:14,640
Speaker 1: Head, no question, no question. Mo Mo from Ohio said

2727
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:16,840
Speaker 1: he just got walk five hundred miles out of his

2728
02:20:16,879 --> 02:20:21,440
Speaker 1: head two weeks ago. And now you're firing this up, right, Okay,

2729
02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:24,120
Speaker 1: there you go. So J and V is up next,

2730
02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 1: and I might stick around and have a chat with

2731
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:28,840
Speaker 1: him here. That sound like I got to scold him

2732
02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:30,440
Speaker 1: on something I don't. But I want to find out

2733
02:20:30,480 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 1: what it's like out at Colts Camp. So we'll go

2734
02:20:32,040 --> 02:20:36,120
Speaker 1: out there to Grand Park in Westfield and JMV will

2735
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:38,840
Speaker 1: take things over, carry you home for the night practice

2736
02:20:38,879 --> 02:20:40,840
Speaker 1: for the Colts, and we will break down all of

2737
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:42,920
Speaker 1: that again. Reminder tomorrow I will be at the Great

2738
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:46,240
Speaker 1: Indiana State Fair, the Dairy Bar specifically, So if you

2739
02:20:46,320 --> 02:20:48,280
Speaker 1: are out and about for the opening day of one

2740
02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:51,039
Speaker 1: of the great traditions in Indiana, the State Fair, then

2741
02:20:51,080 --> 02:20:53,080
Speaker 1: certainly say hi, I look forward to it. I'll even

2742
02:20:53,120 --> 02:20:54,800
Speaker 1: try to hook you up with a key Lime milkshake.

2743
02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:58,080
Speaker 1: How about that? That's unfortunate. He's wearing his key Lime

2744
02:20:58,120 --> 02:20:58,960
Speaker 1: shirt right now.

2745
02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 2: Just for that fortune, I will be stuck in studio.

2746
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, I'll bring you on, but you know what I

2747
02:21:03,600 --> 02:21:06,240
Speaker 1: am out, I'll have to I'll have to call off

2748
02:21:06,320 --> 02:21:08,080
Speaker 1: or do something and try to sneak out there when

2749
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:09,920
Speaker 1: you're serving whenever, that is, so I can get one

2750
02:21:09,959 --> 02:21:12,920
Speaker 1: of these infamous Jake query most Oh, I'm telling you

2751
02:21:12,959 --> 02:21:15,440
Speaker 1: it's a leaning tower Pisa, baby, baby, except for it's

2752
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:18,440
Speaker 1: not Pisa, it's ice cream. John's up next. Thank you

2753
02:21:18,480 --> 02:21:19,880
Speaker 1: for listening to Query and Company.