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Speaker 1: Wow, it's official. Fingers Maloy is the worst person in

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Speaker 1: the world. Just this week see Drinks Smoke, Come Tony Katz,

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Speaker 1: And that right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy,

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Speaker 1: and he's the worst person because he was ill last week.

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Speaker 1: He had a cold last week, and now I have

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Speaker 1: a cold and he gave it to me.

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Speaker 2: Even though we haven't seen each other in two weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: aside from that, we know I get blamed for everything.

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Speaker 1: Oh we know, smoking the Belgian blue right here from

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Speaker 1: the good people of Crown Heads.

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Speaker 2: It's an annual release they do.

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Speaker 1: They do a lot of annual releases, and I got

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Speaker 1: a real question about whether or not there are too

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Speaker 1: many annual releases going on. But I love Crownheads, John Huber,

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Speaker 1: the whole team out of there. This is a five

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Speaker 1: and a half by fifty six, which means it's five

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Speaker 2: Long tea I always makes Fingers Boy laugh.

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Speaker 1: And the ring age is a fifty six the diameter

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Speaker 1: of the cigar or how thick it is around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a better one. That's world class right there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I have this cold. It's on the nose

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Speaker 1: and it's in the head and the coffee started, and

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Speaker 1: I blame you.

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Speaker 2: You terrible, terrible human being. So you're saying that, you know,

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Speaker 2: we did the show virtually last week from two different studios.

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Speaker 2: You're saying through the computer connection we had I somehow

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Speaker 2: gave you a virus. I have an AI could there

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Speaker 2: it is? That is highly accurate.

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Speaker 1: Right here Mexican San Andreas, rapper, Ecuadorian, and the binder

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Speaker 1: and the filler is coming from the Dominican and Nicaragua.

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Speaker 2: That's what we've got here.

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Speaker 1: It is a very very nice feeling wrapper, lots of

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Speaker 1: oil in there. There's a smoothness almost to touch a

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Speaker 1: suede going on. The wrapper is a very nice dark brown.

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Speaker 1: What is interesting is that the corners of this box

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Speaker 1: press have actual creases.

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Speaker 2: Could have been just been how it went in the box.

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Speaker 2: Feel that feel that right there? That is an actual crease,

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Speaker 2: like an edge, like you can cut paper with this,

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Speaker 2: been starched. Yes, that is very weird. I have not

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Speaker 2: I have not seen.

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Speaker 1: That in my days. You know, I've been smoking so

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Speaker 1: long it's in my days. I see there right here,

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Speaker 1: fingers you have lit this up. You're puffing away. What's

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Speaker 2: Well, right at the light. Just a nice bit of

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Speaker 2: pepper and that's about it. But you just said it.

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Speaker 2: I just lit this what a minute ago. So that's

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Speaker 2: all I can give you right now, is it is

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Speaker 2: a nice bit of pepper around the light. I fear,

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Speaker 2: you know, I still have my cold. I fear that

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Speaker 2: my palette will be influenced by this. Is it in

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Speaker 2: your nose? Is it in your right? By the way,

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Speaker 2: we don't advise this, for you know, anybody who's smart

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Speaker 2: the main we don't. We don't. But the problem, all right,

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Speaker 2: so here's here's the problem. I'm not saying this is medicinal.

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Speaker 2: First of all, it's always a medicinal son. It's how

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Speaker 2: neither one of us ever got COVID. Oh, cigars kept

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Speaker 2: away covid. That that is science. The CDC gave the

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Speaker 2: Fingers Maloy instant. Well, you know what, why don't you

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Speaker 2: tell them Fingers you tell them cigars keep away covid?

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Speaker 2: According to the Fingers Maloy Institute of Institutes for institutes,

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Speaker 2: and they would deny that I got COVID twice, right, COVID,

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Speaker 2: you don't smoke when you have a cold.

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Speaker 1: The problem was I was taking a look at the

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Speaker 2: We're grown men. We're gonna stop complaining is it cold

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to grab your notebooks at this point

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Speaker 2: What's the weather?

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Speaker 1: Finally not frigid frigid temperatures in Indianapolis, Indiana, as many

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Speaker 1: So what'd you eat today? What do you drink today?

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Speaker 1: Then take the cigar and break it up into the third.

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Speaker 1: And then you're able to decide the kind of cigars

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Speaker 2: The Belgium Blue right here from crowned heads. My are

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna have to redo it right here

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Speaker 2: Ah, Let's play America's second favorite game. Let's watch Tony

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Speaker 2: retro hail. Honestly, if I could.

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Speaker 1: Retro haal, everything that is clogging my sinu says would

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Speaker 1: There's nothing more crappy than the basic cold because it's

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Speaker 2: And then on top of it, I mean, anyone who's

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Speaker 2: So as soon as people get that sense that you

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Speaker 2: I mind when they say, well, you know what you

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Speaker 2: gotta do. You know what you gotta do. Kill a

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Speaker 2: live lobster. That's gonna get rid of your cold right away.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's got a plant.

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Speaker 1: Well, you gotta take this zake. Oh, you gotta take

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Speaker 1: God turned around three times and spit and then boom,

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Speaker 1: no colds. Right worked for my aunt Sheila. Oh, Aunt Sheila,

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Speaker 1: So the answer is I don't know. Maybe I will

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Speaker 1: John ground Heads, I'm not trying to, but it was

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Speaker 2: We'll see if I get any flavor. Look at it

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Speaker 2: this way, John, it's gonna make him feel better. That's

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Speaker 2: how I and if not, crowd's heads, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: We're going to soup. That is a lot of closed

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh gosh, I read that wrong. It's eat drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Tony Kats, I thought it was the end of days.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you thought it was nineteen twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Huh, Tony Kats, fingers will eat drink smoke.

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Speaker 2: The grocery store is closed on Christmas. I have a question.

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Speaker 2: Sure were they ever open on Christmas?

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Speaker 1: The only place I've ever traveled to on Christmas is

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Speaker 2: That is what my people do.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on vacation for Christmas, already, got the

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Speaker 1: Chinese food restaurant already reserved.

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Speaker 2: Done by the way, Happy hanukkah ah to Donna Bosi,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so very much.

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Speaker 1: I APPREI a glorious honkah to one at all.

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Speaker 2: I listen. I don't make a habit of going to

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Speaker 2: you for sure if you know this has been something

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Speaker 2: Midwestern chain called Meyer Thrifty acres here in thrifty acres,

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Speaker 2: I ran there one Christmas twenty years ago to get

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Speaker 2: cranberry sauce because you can't have Christmas dinner without canned

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Speaker 2: cranberry sauce. I think you can. No, you can't, pretty

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Speaker 2: sure you can. It's actually outlawed in Michigan. You have

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Speaker 2: to have cranberry sauce Christmas dinner. So I this may

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Speaker 2: be relatively new. That have all of them closed like

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Speaker 2: this and bye bye. What I mean by all of

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Speaker 2: them is you look down this list and all the

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Speaker 2: major chains seem to be closed, right. Costco has closed

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Speaker 2: all these closed.

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Speaker 1: HB is closed, Hive is closed, Kroger, Sam's Clubs, Sprouts, Target,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what a wind Co is, but they're

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Speaker 2: all closed. So what do you do? It's Christmas and

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Speaker 2: you realize I'm fresh out of tarrago. You don't grow

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Speaker 1: From the now, we said, hey, we're doing this, and

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Speaker 1: Smoking is your cigar bourbon FOODI Extravaganza on Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: That is Fingers Beloy the Belgian blue from Crowned Heads.

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Speaker 1: And that It wasn't always the way for me, not

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Speaker 2: But when you're doing one of your radio shows during

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Speaker 2: Is the movie done good to go? I believe so.

434
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 2: But you got to think about promotion of the film.

435
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: Who's going to promote it? Other than of course the

436
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: guys body and the guys. You know in spinal tap,

437
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: but everybody they're going to promote it. There's gonna be

438
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: a listen this story. You know, we moved from the

439
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: horrible events and the coverage of the events to the

440
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: eventual trial. This is going to take a while and

441
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: emotions are obviously going to be raw. Uh. It's got

442
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: to be difficult to promote a film like this with

443
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: with this cloud over everyone's head. I don't know if

444
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: it is. Why, Why why would we assume such a thing?

445
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't I honestly don't know what you're saying.

446
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: How the film is done, The film has to get out,

447
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: that the the the people who made the film have

448
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: to get their money back.

449
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: What's the art give it here? I'm just telling you're

450
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: not making any sense though, so I'm being a human beings.

451
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: I know you're a robot young, but some of us

452
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: have a feeling that is not feelings.

453
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: This is about releasing a film. The film's made. Of course,

454
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: you release it now. If you want to wait a

455
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: couple weeks to make sure you've got the right release,

456
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm not opposed to such a thing. But

457
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: the idea that somehow all of this is such a

458
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: big decision.

459
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: I reject that. Well, that's not a big It could

460
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: be that the person who was involved in the decision

461
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: is no longer with us, and there also has to

462
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: be a procedure in place to be able to figure

463
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: out if someone else can immediately step in and say

464
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: it's it's okay to release it. It could be that too. Again,

465
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,479
Speaker 2: is the movie done now?

466
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: If the movie wasn't done, if the movie wasn't complete,

467
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: if there's still some work to do on it, well

468
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: then that's a thing I would agree with you. But

469
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: if it's done, I'm not I'm not hurting anybody's legacy.

470
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm not insulting anybody.

471
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm not just saying I understand it. If you don't

472
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: understand it, that's fine. You know what. That's the reason

473
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: why they call me fingers Hollywood malloy and you just

474
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: don't understand how the inner workings of Hollywood. Uh work? Listen,

475
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 2: fingers d list Maloya, explain something to you. I I tried.

476
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: We're making light of this, and we're not. We'd not know.

477
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: It's it's that what happened to the show must go on?

478
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: I'm asking a question. The show must go on.

479
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: They spent all this money, did all this work, and

480
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: now someone's gonna side, well, it's just too painful to release. No,

481
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: it's not too painful to release. I'm just speculating. Let

482
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: it go, let people enjoy it. They want to see it,

483
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: don't you want to see it?

484
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, absolutely. And I can't believe I haven't seen

485
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: Spinal Tap two yet and I was going to run

486
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: to the theater, uh to see it. I think it

487
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: was only in theaters for a couple of weeks, and

488
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, I'm incredibly busy, so I didn't get a

489
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: chance to see it. So wait, this isn't this is

490
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: a different spinal tap. I this is a concert. Oh okay,

491
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: So it's like that you know they have from what

492
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: I've seen in the trailer they perform a concert. In

493
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: the movie, there's concert footage. So maybe they just did

494
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: a whole concert for people and they recorded it and

495
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: they were gonna say, okay, here's another here's another spinal

496
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: tap film.

497
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that people are going to rally around

498
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Speaker 1: it no matter when you put it out though there's

499
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Speaker 1: no there's.

500
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: No right time, there's no wrong time. I think it

501
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: will be highly successful.

502
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, absolutely, and hopefully because it's actually good and entertaining.

503
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 2: Well spinal tap, how could it not be? That's that's

504
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: that is my take. That is what I hope horrible

505
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: story though, Yeah, absolutely fight Fingers. I know you have

506
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: been doing a tremendous amount of research on how you

507
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: can live forever. Ever Ever, I already know, oh you do,

508
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: because I'm going to live forever and how you're gonna

509
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 2: do it. I'm gonna learn how to fly. Hi, I

510
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: feel it coming together. People will see me and cry.

511
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 2: I Irene Kara. You know you try to have your

512
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 2: finger on the face of pop culture and it's just completely.

513
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: Did you just do a fame reference? Are we gonna

514
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: get a whold Debbie Allen speech?

515
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, fame costs and right here is where you pay

516
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: in sweat? Mess with me?

517
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: Did I say hello? See trick smoke? I'm Tony Katz.

518
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: That is American's favorite averagur drinker.

519
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: Fingers molloy.

520
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: Uh, there's a story from the place where Fingers Foy

521
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: gets all his live Forever news vegeoutmag dot com.

522
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: Listen, if you're gonna live forever, you're gonna wanna vedge.

523
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: Out Longevity researchers say, people who live past ninety all

524
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: share these eight surprising daily habits.

525
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: Habit number one waking up. All right, you wanna go

526
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: through this, You wanna go through this list?

527
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: What do the people who live to the age of

528
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: ninety now living to the age of ninety?

529
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: Here's the only question. Are they aware? Wow? That's dark? Ooh,

530
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: there's a different between being alive and living. That's true. Well,

531
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm work for the purposes of this conversation, will assume

532
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: that they are aware. Number one on the list they

533
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: stay connected to people decades younger. And I'll give you

534
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: a good example. Say you're the former head coach of

535
00:28:52,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. Oh jeejus, Oh, poor Jordan. How

536
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: did she need to deserve this? Did you see folk?

537
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: There was a story the other day.

538
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: I've heard her cheerleading competition and grandpa was there holding hands.

539
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot a man will do for a

540
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: woman seventy five year old young she's twenty four or

541
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, he's sitting in the stands dying inside. Right,

542
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: if we're being honest, he's dying inside. But while he's

543
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: doing that, because he's staying connected to people decades younger

544
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: and with her. He's really connected the fact that he

545
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 2: coaches college at UNC.

546
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: By the way, I see my coach at seventy five

547
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: with the twenty four year old Hotty sitting in the

548
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: stands watching her cheerleading competition. I immediately hit the transfer portal.

549
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't hit the transfer portal hard enough. Really, that

550
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: is not a guy focused unwinning. He's winning something else.

551
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: But I need to win football games.

552
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I want to be just like that guy

553
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: when I grow up fifty years from now.

554
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: Great, first step, fine, Tom Brady, second step, question mark,

555
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: third step?

556
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Profit? Good lord? What else? Thank connect with people.

557
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Younger than you, young at heart, young mind. I get

558
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: all that. I'm cool with that.

559
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: So Number two they walk a lot. They walk. You

560
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: gotta keep moving, right. I know that's the fitness regimen

561
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: that I have. I walk at least twenty two miles

562
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: a day. Oh yeah, that's how I stay looking thirty

563
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: three years old. You look great, Thank you. Number three

564
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Speaker 2: on the list they eat the same foods repeatedly. And

565
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: I have to tell you I have noticed this about

566
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: Fingers Moy senior. For those who are just tuning in,

567
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: fingers moy senior, Uh moved in if you haven't been

568
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: following to my house. He's eighty seven years old. He

569
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: likes to eat the same things over and over again.

570
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: He starts the day two eggs, Sonny side up, sign

571
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: three links of sausage, nice and two pieces of sour

572
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: dough bread. Doesn't get sick of it? You would think

573
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: after wouldn't you get sick of having the same breakfast

574
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: over and over again? It depends on the breakfast. How

575
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: about this breakfast? Two eggs Sonny sign up, three links

576
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: of sausage and some sour dough toast. So is the

577
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: toast buttered? Yes? Oh yesh, sounds delicious. I could eat that.

578
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: I know. He doesn't care that I share this information.

579
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: He puts half a stick of butter on his bread,

580
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: good for him, and goes through a jar of manonnaise

581
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: a week wait eighty seven. Yes, it's crazy. You hear

582
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: all the things you're not supposed to do, and it's

583
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: like it's raining cholesterol. It's like the great line from

584
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: George Burns.

585
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 1: He's on with Johnny Carson, and Johnny Carson ass how

586
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: many cigars do you smoke? Because it smokes ten cigars

587
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: a day, and Johnny says, what does your doctor think

588
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: of it?

589
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: Before you can finish, George Burns goes, my doctor is dead.

590
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: That's that's by it is so good. It's delivered so perfectly.

591
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: George knew where this was going before it happened. What

592
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: he was gonna say, it was glorious.

593
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Good on fingers, Ulo, I see in your fine work

594
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: that he's doing. So that's what he has for breakfast.

595
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: What does he have for lunch? A sandwich okay, yeah,

596
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: and low sodium bread or sodium ham excuse me, okay.

597
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: And then for dinner whatever we make for dinner. But

598
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: a lot of times he goes ahead and makes his

599
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: own dinner because dinner's at four o'clock. Oh, because that's

600
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: that's I don't know what it is about the elderly

601
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: and they have to eat dinner before five. But that's

602
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: a thing and it's real, and he he does that.

603
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: So he'll have whatever you're making, like like a steak.

604
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: We don't usually listen. We're just a regular meat and potatoes,

605
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 2: blue collar family. Tony. I know it, well, meat and potatoes, roast,

606
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: maybe chicken. I know, you know it's raining steak here

607
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: all the time at the cat's household. But you know,

608
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: steak is a is a is a treat at our house,

609
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: So go go more on the list. You did that,

610
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 2: what else do you go? They maintain a daily routine

611
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: without being rigid. So they wake up around the same time,

612
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: they eat roughly at the same hours, have activities they

613
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: do regularly. But if something disrupts that routine, they adapt

614
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: without stress. Yeah, that part, I'm not buying that for

615
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: a second. They do not adapt without stress. Somebody has stress.

616
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: It might not be them, but somebody has definite stress.

617
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: I have not, and you know you have, you know,

618
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: elderly parents, parents, parent Uh, I don't feel like I

619
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: don't know if this is the way it is for you,

620
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: throwing curveballs in the schedule, it's the schedule has to

621
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: be changed days in advance. My mother is pretty easy going.

622
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: She's pretty easy flowing in the in the stuff. She's

623
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: fine with it.

624
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: Whatever, that's cool, that's great, right, And so there there's

625
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: a real positive to that. And there are times where

626
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: I wish she was a little bor No no, no, I've

627
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: got my thing.

628
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: I can't do that. I've got a thing. No no, no,

629
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Speaker 2: I'm done.

630
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to this, I'm gonna see that person. I'm

631
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: gonna do that thing. I'm busy, but no, no, make

632
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: that another day. I'm too busy for that. No no, no, no,

633
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: I would I would actually enjoy that. I would like

634
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: that for her. Right, It's it's like your kids. Like

635
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I can say that I've got excellent kids and they

636
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: don't get in trouble. And also I'd like it if

637
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: they got into a little bit of trouble. Ah right,

638
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: you want them.

639
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: To have, uh these U some experiences to be like,

640
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that was nuts, and and you a

641
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: little bit of Now I'm doing this, let other people

642
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 2: figure it out. Let other people, uh, you know, change

643
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: their schedules for me.

644
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't have to stand jo my schedule for them. Adaptivity,

645
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: No I want. I'm not going to adapt. I'm going

646
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: to do exactly what I'm doing. Change today.

647
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: That was my point. They stay involved in their community.

648
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: Everyone that this person has known lived well past their nineties, uh,

649
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,280
Speaker 2: was embedded in their local community. They knew their neighbors.

650
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: This was one thing that my father in his neighborhood,

651
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: all the neighbors talked and they were all over seventy

652
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 2: and it's so foreign to him that when he moved

653
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 2: down here, nobody talks. And I think that you you

654
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: said that when you moved to Indiana you felt the

655
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: same way right there there. I don't know what it

656
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: is about Indiana. And by the way, not complaining that

657
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: you know, uh, people aren't is outgoing and friendly and

658
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you'll get a high and that's fine

659
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: by me. But on to sit and talk for an

660
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: hour with your neighbor across the picket fence. That that

661
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: doesn't happen very often.

662
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: No, no, it doesn't. Also, picket fences don't happen very

663
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: often either.

664
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: It's an interesting list. It's about staying focused, staying active,

665
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: and staying you know, recognizing that you're still alive, which

666
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Speaker 2: I think is a huge, huge part of it. Exercise

667
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668
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Speaker 1: tell you what I know. It's been a day.

697
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: I was just selling fingers away before he went on.

698
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: It's been a day and this cold is really bothering me.

699
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: And when you have a cold and you're smoking cigars,

700
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: you can't catch all the flavors.

701
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: It's even more annoying. And then we looked at Burman's

702
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: and I said, no, no, I'm not opening anything new.

703
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: I'm going back to the well, well a little bit

704
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: better than the well.

705
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: I went to Costco, got myself a hot dog, and

706
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: then pulled out my bottle of bottled and boned.

707
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: Did he drink smoke?

708
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, And that right there is America's favorite

709
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. Yeah, Fingers had the cold last week.

710
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: And so he grabbed himself some uh white peppermint or

711
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: some chocolate white chocolate peppermint eggnong. Yes, is what he

712
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: had himself right there, and he was happy. Man, he

713
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: was happy. But now he's here in studio. He did

714
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: not give me the cold. I got this independently, and

715
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm like I can't.

716
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: I can't.

717
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: The noses wereus. It's it's it's stuffed yet it runs yet.

718
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: People don't need to hear this.

719
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: How are we not doing a hot tottie?

720
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: I great question. Great a full disclosure. I've never been

721
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: a fan. I've never been a fan of the hot toddy.

722
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: Is the honey, it's the whole thing. It's the concept,

723
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: it's it's that just it's it's like tea. Do you

724
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: drink tea? Iced tea?

725
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, tea is gross. Iced tea is is too Now.

726
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: I can't say that in the South because I'll get killed.

727
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: So I just smile and say, oh, that's right now

728
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: for me, just a just.

729
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: A diet coke things. I think. I think that's will

730
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: work for me right now.

731
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: And I come up with some excuse about why I

732
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: don't do sweet tea. Why because I don't want to

733
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: get thrown out of Georgia or Alabama. These are lovely

734
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: people and I love them, But I couldn't. I couldn't

735
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: bring myself to open something new, something we hadn't done before,

736
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: something I need to give my time and consideration to.

737
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: Now.

738
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: I opened up my giant bottle of Kirkling signature bottled

739
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: in bond.

740
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: Look at this monster.

741
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: Right here, this glorious thing from Barton seventeen ninety two.

742
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: I actually found the mash bill. I remember if we

743
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: had this last time we tried it. Seventy four percent corn,

744
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: eighteen percent rye eight percent malted a barley right there,

745
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: aged at least four years, and of course one hundred

746
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: proof because if its bottled and bond always applause A

747
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: light applause from fingers.

748
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: From the way today, Oh, one hundred proof, but it

749
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: was it was very soft. Say it's one hundred and

750
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: forty proof, it's one hundred and ninety two proof. And

751
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: then and then we put it in a rocket ship.

752
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I couldn't bring myself to open up

753
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: something new that needs a time. I always thought that

754
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: this coming in at like twenty five thirty dollars for

755
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: this size bottle, I thought this was a spectacular deal

756
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: and that if you couldn't find, if you didn't get

757
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: it at Costco, you missed it. And they'll do another one, right,

758
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: They do some of these things yearly. They did a

759
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: very very nice job with this. I would tell you

760
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: the nose right now, fingers, Billy, I can't no, I can't.

761
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: I have no capacity right now. As we've done this show,

762
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: the whole cold has now become a human disaster area.

763
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: I should be quarantined fingers welloy.

764
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: But but you you do some nose while I sip

765
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: on it, have any taste a nice little bit of

766
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: spice to it?

767
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: You get Karen caramel vanilla, you know, uh, maybe a

768
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: hint of citrus. Listen, it's solid. And the other thing too.

769
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: You mentioned the price point. This is the kind of

770
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: bottle that you can enjoy straight and be fine with it.

771
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: But if you've got a friend that comes over and says, listen,

772
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: I want to mixed drink, You've got no problem using

773
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 2: this as well. Oh absolutely.

774
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: I just took a sip and and I felt some

775
00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: of the heat, and I feel it in the in

776
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: the middle chest and my nose opened up?

777
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Did it? Oh? Oh?

778
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: Nothing, says hey, do video while you're doing a podcast,

779
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: while you're doing a radio show with a running nose.

780
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Just brutal, absolutely brutal.

781
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: But no, the warmth that I remember and a little

782
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: bit of lusciousness is what I get on the tongue.

783
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm not getting all the flavors. So this is what

784
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: do you call that thing? The dewey pot. What's the

785
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: thing that you put in your nose? Said Nettie pot,

786
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: A Nettie pot, A Dewey pot, Dewey pot. So this

787
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: is like a distilled.

788
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: Tomas Dewey, of course, who lost the fame election to

789
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Harry Truman.

790
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: That's who it's named after. The Dewey pot. Yes, he

791
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 2: said a dewey pot in every home, and a chicken

792
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: in every dewey pot.

793
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: I believe was the quote. I'm pretty sure that was wrong. Figures,

794
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: boy is gonna do what's known as the Kentucky chew.

795
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: When you're taking that first sip, you move the juice

796
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: around the palette really trying to get an idea of

797
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: where those flavors are. I do like the two SIPs methodology,

798
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: the first sip to set the taste buds, second sip

799
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: to really get an idea of those flavors.

800
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: Fingers. You're right, you look a little paint. It's a

801
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: nice little bit of spice that it got a nice

802
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: little sting on the tongue, little gentle warmth. That caramel

803
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: is there. There's like an apricot kind of as well.

804
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: And for me, there's that there's oak, it's it's it's

805
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 2: it's nice, and it's a nice sipping whiskey right now.

806
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Remember seventy four percent, eighteen percent rye. There is a

807
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: should be a little bit of a punch here, a

808
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: little bit of a hey, you should notice me right here?

809
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: And and it was it was twenty five dollars, thirty

810
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: dollars and just that's a crazy deal in a world

811
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: of no crazy deals.

812
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: None.

813
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: There was a local liquor store going out of business.

814
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: Oh and so they were part of a chain, and

815
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: I could not understand they were putting things on sale.

816
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: I picked up a bottles, and so we're covered for

817
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: a while.

818
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out why they just wouldn't put the

819
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: bottles in another store. Oh it's a chain, Yeah, why

820
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: didn't they just move the bottles to another store?

821
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: The building sold so they had to be out. And

822
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: I guess the answer is, you know, markups are still good.

823
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: It was a chance to get people in the store

824
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: and a chance to sell a whole bunch of products.

825
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: So why not take advantage of that?

826
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Because anytime you see you know, it's like when you're

827
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: buying the rugs store closing, same store has been closing

828
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: for nineteen years. Store closing it does, it moves, it

829
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: motivates people. So I guess they could have moved the bottles,

830
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: but I think they want to see how things would move,

831
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: how they could get the product out.

832
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Maybe I introduced some more people to the place. So

833
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: did you get anything different that you'd never tried before?

834
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Or oh yeah, oh nice? Seven of them. Seven of

835
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: them are things I've never tried before. And then I

836
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: have one angels envy that I believe is like triple oaked.

837
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 2: I believe that's what it was. Well, I just realized something.

838
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: What did you realize? I know that you are having

839
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: a difficult time today with the cold and not only

840
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: doing the review of the bottle and bond but feel fine? Yeah,

841
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: but also the cigar. Yeah, you never did ask me

842
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: if the cigar is in my humidor and what the

843
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: price point is for that cigar? So well, that's what

844
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: we'd like to call a radio teas ladies. Is that

845
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: what they call that? Yes, I wasn't aware. We will

846
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: get to that in a little bit, but I'll be curious.

847
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,479
Speaker 2: I have no idea the price of the Belgian Blue

848
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: from crownded Head. No you did not, So I'll be

849
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: curious because you've got this Kirkland bottle and bond that

850
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: you said you can get between twenty five and thirty

851
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: dollars a bottle. I'll be interested to know what the

852
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: price point is of this cigar. This is a one

853
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: of those very budget friendly pairings that we look for.

854
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm gonna go for maybe.

855
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: Oh, right there, as we're smoking the Belgian Blue from

856
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: Crowned Heads five and a half by the Afty six

857
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: Mexicans and Andreas Rapper, your Dominican Nicaraguan in the filler right there.

858
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: There are still deals to be had on bourbon.

859
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: And as you know, it being Christmas, this is the

860
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: favorite time of year for Fingers mulloy because all the

861
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: gift sets and all the deals that are out there,

862
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Speaker 1: and there are some good ones for sure.

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Speaker 2: Especially at grocery stores. Unless you're being accosted once again

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Speaker 2: by cellular phone companies in the grocery store trying to

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Speaker 2: get you to switch your service. Still happens, Yes, and

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Speaker 2: I'm very angry. And this is a grocery store that

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Speaker 2: rhymes with Kroger. Yes, okay, Croker, we'll get into it.

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Speaker 1: So I want to make sure we're all clear about something.

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Speaker 1: We don't engage politically on eat drink smoke.

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Speaker 2: It is eat drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker,

872
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Speaker 1: Fingers maloy. When we recorded this week, it was quite

873
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Speaker 1: literally early hours before President Trump made a speech that

874
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Speaker 1: was scheduled for the Oval Office at nine pm midweek.

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Speaker 1: President Trump was going to make a speech, and there

876
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Speaker 1: was massive speculation.

877
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Speaker 2: Was this going to be a speech about the economy?

878
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Speaker 1: Was this going to be a speech about Venezuela and

879
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Speaker 1: the military build up that's been going on their fingers

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Speaker 1: will Way.

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Speaker 2: If we had the contents of the speech, because it's

882
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Speaker 2: something that would be discussed in the cigar lounge, we

883
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Speaker 2: would discuss it. What's happening, what's going on, and we

884
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Speaker 2: can talk about the economy, we could talk about uh Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: But I because of how we do the show.

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Speaker 1: The timeliness matters, and sometimes that the time changes, and

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Speaker 1: so I don't want people to think that we avoid

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Speaker 1: subjects that would clearly be in people's consciousness and be

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Speaker 1: things that people are talking about, whether in the g

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Speaker 1: gar lounge or over the holidays or anything else.

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Speaker 2: Fingers Yeah, And we could sit here and wildly speculate,

892
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Speaker 2: but what's the point. Literally, the speech is going to

893
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Speaker 2: happen in a couple of hours. We don't know what

894
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: he's gonna talk about, and by the time you hear

895
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Speaker 2: this program, you're gonna know what he said.

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Speaker 1: So if so, if it's the Venezuela conversation, and we'll

897
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Speaker 1: do this little bit of speculation, understand that we right

898
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Speaker 1: now have eleven warships and fifteen thousand troops in the Caribbean.

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Speaker 2: We have been shooting at.

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Speaker 1: These drug boats, so we can at least agree they

901
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Speaker 1: are not fishing boats. This is a conversation about whether

902
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Speaker 1: or not we want fentanyl coming into the country. Yet,

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Speaker 1: President Trump is referred to fentandel as a weapon of

904
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Speaker 1: mass destruction, and there's a movement to engage in more

905
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Speaker 1: criminal penalties and other penalties for bringing those drugs in.

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Speaker 1: But there's a conversation about whether or not you're engaged

907
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Speaker 1: in this action. Is this not an active war? And

908
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Speaker 1: if it's an active war, you require congressional approval. No

909
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Speaker 1: commander in chief, fingers will. No commander in chief is

910
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Speaker 1: gonna say I'm in charge of the military but let

911
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Speaker 1: me first get the approval of Congress.

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Speaker 2: You're going to say, I have to make these decisive actions.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to engage in regardles of you. You are.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama did the same things. Bill Clinton took out

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Speaker 1: the aspirin factory. There's a lot we could go. We

916
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Speaker 1: go as far down the road, guys, as you would

917
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Speaker 1: like to. No president is going to unilaterally give up

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Speaker 1: their powers commander in chief to the legislative the legislative branch,

919
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Speaker 1: if they want the declaration of war, they're going to

920
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Speaker 1: have to demand that the president come to them. They're

921
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Speaker 1: going to have to assert their authority as an Article

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Speaker 1: one power the Constitution instead of the executive branch, which

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Speaker 1: is an Article two power the Constitution.

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Speaker 2: Well, but what is consistent is the opposition party always

925
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Speaker 2: hollers that there needs to be a declaration of war.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what party it is. Generally, when it

927
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Speaker 2: comes to something like this, that is what happens. I

928
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Speaker 2: don't disagree with you. One of the interesting things that's

929
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Speaker 2: been happening is that nobody has and so it seemed

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Speaker 2: like it seems like this thing that members of Congress

931
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Speaker 2: wanted to grumble about it they wanted the politics of it,

932
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Speaker 2: but they didn't want to really get involved. It's very

933
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Speaker 2: hands off, and I personally think that's pretty messed up.

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Speaker 2: It's very Congress. It's totally Congress, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to complain about the thing, but they

936
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Speaker 1: don't actually want to do the work exactly.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. Doing work is for other people.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, if it is some sort of

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Speaker 2: a major military action in Venezuela, I think the President

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Speaker 2: needs to come out tonight and sell the American people

941
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Speaker 2: on it, because they've seen what's been happening. But I

942
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Speaker 2: don't know if he has walked them along to this

943
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Speaker 2: point where they're ready for this, not knowing what the

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Speaker 2: president would say.

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Speaker 1: The conversation is also that Maduro Nicholas Maduro, who's the

946
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Speaker 1: president of Venezuela, is actually the thug of Venezuela. There

947
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Speaker 1: have been elections and he has disregarded the results of

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Speaker 1: those elections, I believe twice. So one of the moves

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Speaker 1: could be we're going to simply recognize who is the

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Speaker 1: duly elected government.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna say it again, and now we're not even

952
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Speaker 2: going We're not working with those people.

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Speaker 1: Those people are persona on Grada and the Maduro and

954
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do whatever we have to do.

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Speaker 2: But there's also the seizing of oil tankers.

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Speaker 1: If it costs the Venezuelans, as is reported, two hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars a week to keep everything up and running,

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Speaker 1: government up, in the military paid, and you.

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Speaker 2: Seize oil tankers where they make about two hundred million

960
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Speaker 2: dollars an oil tanker. You could do the math.

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Speaker 1: And this is about a level of economic starvation a

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Speaker 1: la Ronald Reagan and the ending the Cold War with

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Speaker 1: Gorbachev by bringing the price of oil down so much

964
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Speaker 1: that the Russians simply couldn't operate, They couldn't sell anything,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't make any money.

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Speaker 2: YEP. So we're gonna find out tonight what he's gonna say.

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Speaker 2: And it may have nothing to do with this, but

968
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Speaker 2: the speculation is at this point that this could be

969
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Speaker 2: what he does. Other thing it could be about is

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Speaker 2: the economy, where the administration is at least finally learning

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Speaker 2: that you can't tell.

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Speaker 1: People you were gonna reduce costs on day one, not

973
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Speaker 1: reduce the cost on day one, and then tell everybody

974
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Speaker 1: is vance. The Vice President said in a speech in

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania the other day that the economy.

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Speaker 2: Is a plus plus plus. You got a lot of

977
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Speaker 2: good things coming down the road.

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Speaker 1: You have the opportunity for greatness comes second quarter of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, which if you don't have it by

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Speaker 1: the end of the second quarter, Republicans could kiss the

981
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Speaker 1: midterms goodbye for sure.

982
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Speaker 2: But you can't sell people on that right now. You

983
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: have to bring them in and say, here's what we're

984
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Speaker 2: working towards, and here's how we're doing it, and here,

985
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Speaker 2: if you'll just hold on, here's the results, come into

986
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Speaker 2: the fight with us.

987
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Speaker 1: They never did that. They're only starting to do that

988
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Speaker 1: right now. And I wonder if that is even if

989
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Speaker 1: it's not the speech that happened midweek, isn't that the

990
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: right approach anyway?

991
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And yeah, you have to show empathy. I go

992
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Speaker 2: back to the election presidential election nineteen ninety two, George

993
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Speaker 2: Herbert Walker Bush, Ross Perrot, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton, I

994
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: feel your pain saying that this is the worst economy

995
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Speaker 2: and in what was it fifty years or thirty years,

996
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Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact quote. And while it wasn't

997
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Speaker 2: even close to the worst economy in thirty years, Americans

998
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: were hurting, and at that point Republicans did not make

999
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Speaker 2: the case that they've had empathy for what American people

1000
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Speaker 2: were feeling at the time. And I think that the

1001
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Speaker 2: President has to acknowledge that, you know things, the American

1002
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: people right now are very very nervous about the economy,

1003
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: oh legitimately, so they're worried about AI, they're worried about

1004
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Speaker 2: their jobs.

1005
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Speaker 1: They're looking at in a lot of places the rise

1006
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Speaker 1: and costs. Now, we should be perfectly clear. I keep

1007
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: hearing that car insurance is going to go down. I

1008
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: haven't necessarily seen it yet. I have seen certainly egg

1009
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: prices go down and energy prices go down like gasoline

1010
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Speaker 1: as we're talking per barrel on the West Texas crew,

1011
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: so that's the oil that comes out of the ground,

1012
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: the Brent crewed comes out of the oceans.

1013
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: Both were under sixty dollars a barrel.

1014
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Speaker 1: Well at the same time, silver was at sixty four

1015
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: dollars and ounce bounce, the silver costs more than a

1016
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Speaker 1: barrel of oil. I don't know what to do with that.

1017
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that's supposed to signal economically. Is

1018
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: that good or is that horrifying?

1019
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Speaker 2: And a lot of people in the country today don't

1020
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: know how to take in this information and make sense

1021
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: of it. And I think that the.

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Speaker 1: I would argue, again not getting into the politics of it,

1023
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: that Americans still feel that Trump has a better handle

1024
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Speaker 1: on the.

1025
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Speaker 2: Economy than Biden or Kamala Harris would have. Like that's

1026
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Speaker 2: my take.

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Speaker 1: I know you guys know I reside on the political right,

1028
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: but I argue that that's my take.

1029
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Speaker 2: In general. They're not happy with what's happening.

1030
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Speaker 1: That's why you're seeing the polling look very bad for

1031
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: Trump on these economic issues.

1032
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Speaker 2: But you would think gas prices coming down would be something.

1033
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Speaker 1: Because if that's the barrel price, you'll see the gas

1034
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: prices change in like two three weeks.

1035
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Speaker 2: Right, it's the gas prices are trailing indicator. You would

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Speaker 2: think that would be a hot damn unless your state

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Speaker 1: So we don't know what the speech was because we

1040
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1041
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Speaker 1: send us a cookie because because the economy.

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Speaker 1: From the guys at eat a drink smoke. So, because

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Speaker 1: the field of the cigar. You referred to it as hefty.

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Speaker 2: Stocky is what I said. Stocky is what you said.

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Speaker 1: Is this in your not close to the final third?

1076
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: Is this in your humid or? For thirteen dollars and

1077
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: fifty cents MSRP. Yes, yeah, listen, I'm gonna have to

1078
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: smoke it again because you can't smoke it.

1079
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: With a cold.

1080
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: But what I it's it's been a while, right, We've

1081
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: been doing the show for an hour and a half

1082
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: and so, and I'm still smoking it, right something smoking slow,

1083
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: things have in my nose have opened up, so I'm

1084
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: able to get a little bit of it.

1085
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: There is there is a richness of play.

1086
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: I think if I didn't have the cold, it would

1087
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: come across much more full bodied.

1088
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: For me, I feel much more of it.

1089
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not a great person to judge us right now,

1090
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: I will do it again, but my faith in John

1091
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: Hubert and Crowned Heads is very, very real. This plays,

1092
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: I think a little bit like this has some connectivity

1093
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: to their blood medicine line. The only question that I

1094
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: ask you fingers and thirteen fifty for a five and

1095
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: a half inch cigar, right if it was a raboosto,

1096
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know five and a half inches, You're like, well,

1097
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: and it's a box press. It was a really intense

1098
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: box press, like really really creased at the edges.

1099
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: They do this as an annual release. Are you down

1100
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: for annual releases or are you somebody who believes in

1101
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: core lines. No. I like annual releases. I like to

1102
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: try new things. The only thing that's disappointing about annual

1103
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: releases is if you really like something, then you have

1104
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: to start hoarding right right. You have to go and

1105
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: you have to buy as many of them as you

1106
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: can get your hands on. That's the only problem. Second

1107
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: year in a row.

1108
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: I was not able to get the CEO Amazon Basin right,

1109
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: which I think they do a great job with.

1110
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: Okay, that's there once a year cigar. Everybody can have.

1111
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: One, and they do the year of the you know,

1112
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: the on the Chinese zodiac, Chinese New Year's kind of thing.

1113
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: Those kinds of things happen, But I don't there's a

1114
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: lot of just one off releases, and I don't know

1115
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: if that's because the cigar is better or it's just

1116
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: odd marketing that that works. And why can't it be

1117
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: part of the line. Why can't it be a part

1118
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: of what you do?

1119
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: You know? I've been thinking about.

1120
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: This conversation with with Michael Herklott's of Ferry Otago, where

1121
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: he's like, we we do what we do, We play

1122
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: the hits and we build on that and we and

1123
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: we create better experiences to that, and it has really

1124
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of hit me as a question of marketing of

1125
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: what is it that we're trying to get accomplished here.

1126
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: I don't want John Huber and Crowdheads to stop making

1127
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: cool stuff. I'm desperate for them to make cool stuff.

1128
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: But now you got so many things, doesn't it become exhausting?

1129
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: Well, my question to you is, because you know I've

1130
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: said this on several occasions, I am a cigar fan.

1131
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: You have a real passion for cigars, go well beyond

1132
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: my feelings towards them and the rational Yeah, have you

1133
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: seen an annual release from a brand that ends up

1134
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: becoming a core part of a brand. That's a great question.

1135
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: You can think about the top of your head. Off

1136
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: the top of my head, I can't.

1137
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything that was an annual release

1138
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: and now something they do.

1139
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: Although I'm sure there are plenty of people be like, oh, yeah, here's.

1140
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: The list, but you know, I'm sure that it's out there,

1141
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: but it's it's maybe I'm not saying it right. Does

1142
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: the consumer feel that, Okay, now you're just trying to

1143
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: Now you're just trying to screw me. Now you're just

1144
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: trying to You're just throwing something out there. You're giving

1145
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: it a special name. You're saying, oh, look at this,

1146
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: but it's not special. It's it's whatever. It's not different.

1147
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: It's it's unfair what you're doing here. It's not a

1148
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: way to treat the consumer who wants to create a

1149
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: long time relationship and value.

1150
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: I think you see a lot of people that just

1151
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: want to try new things, and they get excited when

1152
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: they see just like with bourbon. Right you got you

1153
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: got a new limited release run from a distillery, and

1154
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, you know what, I want to get

1155
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: my hands on it. But then there is that feeling

1156
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: afterwards if you really like it, like, oh, this is disappointing.

1157
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: I can't get this anymore. Should that be the name

1158
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 2: of our cigar bread limited release? Yes, it's disappointing. Uh,

1159
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: it's I just I wonder if it gets to people sometimes,

1160
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: because maybe it's it's personal. It gets to me a

1161
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: little bit like, come on, what are we doing here?

1162
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: Listen, I've got I've got nothing but good things to

1163
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: say about Artoral Fun Day. But dear Lord, now I

1164
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: must say I have a whole theory about our Trio

1165
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: Fun Day where they've got the new factory and they're

1166
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: putting things out left and right.

1167
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: You want my theory on Arto Fun Day. Everybody wants

1168
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: my Artural Fun Day theory? Please.

1169
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: I I don't know Carlito, I don't know the family.

1170
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect. I would love to have

1171
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: this conversation with them, fly them out to Indianapolis offline

1172
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: noun to wherever they are, no problem. I believe what

1173
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna see from point DA is the biggest full

1174
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: court press in cigar lounges that you have ever seen.

1175
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: And they are going to try and take the shelves.

1176
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: We've got fifty facings. We've got this wrapper, that wrapper,

1177
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: that wrapper. We've got the special things over here with

1178
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: the and diejos. We've got this here with the rare pinks.

1179
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: We've got the opus over here. We've got the special

1180
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: things over here, the thing we do with open society.

1181
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: Over there, they're gonna take the humid or and they're

1182
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna place into price points from the.

1183
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: Five dollars to the fifty five to one hundred and

1184
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: fifty five and cover the gamut.

1185
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: And they're gonna say we control cigars, not just in

1186
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: the US. Boom mess with us. And I wonder if

1187
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: I was a betting man. I wonder if A, if

1188
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: that's true, and B was the impetus to that. What

1189
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: Placentia did. Placentia was the people making cigars for others,

1190
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: and they had the farms and they were growing the tobacco.

1191
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: And then they started saying, well, this is our tobacco. No,

1192
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: it was really good tobacco. No, no, no, well we'll

1193
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: keep that here. We'll make this over there. And then

1194
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: they come up with a line of cigars that are

1195
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: exceptionally good, not good, exceptionally good. Dear lord, Placentia makes

1196
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: some excellent stuff.

1197
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 2: Uh, the fifty one Cosekas. I adore those out of Honduras.

1198
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: They're great. Holy crap, Holy crap. So I wonder if

1199
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: they looked at that where they're like, we could just

1200
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: control this. Why are we rolling for other people? We'll

1201
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: just roll for us. I'm not even mad at them.

1202
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what Quent is doing. Okay, we agree

1203
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: that's not good, right, I don't know.

1204
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: Now you can argue because it's it's so much control

1205
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 1: under one group. I'm not saying that other cigars won't exist.

1206
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: I am saying that I think that's what they're doing.

1207
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: Is it good? And this is this is we're free markers.

1208
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: So no, but yeah, I mean, and this isn't a

1209
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,439
Speaker 2: criticism of our turrifflente. It's just if you are someone

1210
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: that likes to go into a lounge and see a

1211
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: wide variety and then all of a sudden, other brands

1212
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: are getting muscled out. Is that good for the consumer?

1213
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: No, You and I would both agree that's not good

1214
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: for the consumer.

1215
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: And it would be a real problem if our.

1216
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: Turpente wasn't making something you really liked, because they do

1217
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: they If you look at my human er right now,

1218
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: I have got a shelf of nothing but angel Share.

1219
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: You're welcome. I have got some very very good stuff

1220
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: in there.

1221
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I think that's the move that

1222
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: they're making, and I do think it's going to have

1223
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: some effects on smaller guys not being able to find

1224
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: the shelf space that they were.

1225
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: Able to prior as soon as twenty twenty six, am

1226
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: I betting man? Yeah, I watch for it. See if

1227
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm right.

1228
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: We got so into our conversation about our Turpent day

1229
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: and you can catch even more of it as we

1230
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: were talking after uh we went to break and we

1231
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: covered it there on the video and if you find

1232
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: all our videos on YouTube YouTube dot com slash Eat

1233
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: Drink Smoke, you'll see everything that we do. It is

1234
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is Fingers molloy.

1235
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: Christmas right around the corner. Fingers very excited very ready.

1236
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be joyous.

1237
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: Are you are you ready? I am accept I was

1238
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: hoping we were gonna have a white Christmas here in

1239
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: central Indiana. And I think the forecast next week it's

1240
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: gonna be seventy five degrees. It's gonna be sixty.

1241
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sixty in Indianapolis, where we are razy,

1242
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: totally ridiculous.

1243
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 2: But because we were so into the conversation about one day,

1244
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: it is time now for news of the week. Well,

1245
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: let's stick with the Christmas themed Tony. People are outrage Yes, yes,

1246
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: ho ho ho. There is a Christmas tree farm in

1247
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: New Jersey, White Cough's Christmas Tree Farm in there. Many

1248
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 2: times they're dubbed New Jersey's original colored tree Farm. They

1249
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 2: are selling nine different colored Christmas trees. These are real trees.

1250
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: The colors are pink, purple, dark blue, light blue, turquoise, magenta, red,

1251
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: and black. Per the sight, Tony, And if you look

1252
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: at these pictures, who yeah, I mean some of these

1253
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 2: one looks very much like Honolulu Blue, Tony, which I

1254
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: high flying, so high flying Detroit line. Yes they not

1255
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: playoff bound Detroit Lions yet, but the season is not over.

1256
01:06:54,400 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: Look to the end to the end. Indeed, so the

1257
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,959
Speaker 2: way that they they they color these trees, they grow

1258
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: them right on the farm and them and then they

1259
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: paint them what they what they believe is safe, with

1260
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: a fireproof Latex based paint specifically formulated for Christmas trees.

1261
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 2: So I know, uh, have you ever had a Christmas

1262
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: tree in the house ever? No, being Jewish, I never

1263
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: had a Christmas tree.

1264
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes people I know, I know, and sometimes they refer

1265
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: to it as a Hunica bush. And uh, And I

1266
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: just want to say, for the record, I think people

1267
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: could do anything they want, even if they're wrong, and

1268
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: so so they if that's what you want to do,

1269
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: you go ahead and you can do it. But being

1270
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: as you know, a Christmas tree purest right there, this

1271
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: is an abomination before the Lord, I said, it decorate

1272
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: your Christmas tree. And oh, by the way, lights outside

1273
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: white and white twinkling, none of this giant bulb color light.

1274
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: It's nonsense. It looks cheap and ridiculous.

1275
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: And Tawdrey I said, I really want people to hate

1276
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: me donating.

1277
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 2: Where can everyone get in touch with you too? I

1278
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: believe you can email me if you would like to

1279
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 2: email the podcast at Ben Shapiro at yahoo dot com

1280
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: is where you can get in touch with the podcast

1281
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: right there. I'm amazed at some of these trends. Now.

1282
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: Back in the early nineties, Tony, I used to work

1283
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: for a pool and patio store. If you ever needed

1284
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: to buy some patio furniture, you'd come to Old Fingers More.

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: If I needed to adjust the pH yes, I would

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Speaker 2: sell a test kit where you could find out if you.

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Speaker 1: Had your finger over it and yes, shake it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you see where the color matches up like a polaroid picture.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's how I shake it, shaking it right now. Well,

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Speaker 2: after pool season was over, we switched over to a

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: Christmas tree store and we would sell artificial trees. And

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Speaker 2: in the early nineties there was this trend for a

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Speaker 2: little while with silvertree, the silver tree and black Christmas trees,

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Speaker 2: and people would hang them upside down from the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: But yes, you heard me. They would hang their Christmas trees,

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Speaker 2: mount the tree upside down on the ceiling and have

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Speaker 2: it hanging from the ceiling in the early nineties. And

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what my reaction was. What and then they

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Speaker 2: pulled out their charge plate and I said, do you

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Speaker 2: want to. So by the way charge plate we had

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Speaker 2: the machine exactly how old, all right?

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Speaker 1: So this was the It was a punk and metal

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: right that was maybe a foot and a half long,

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01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: and it had the name of the store on it

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: and a number. And then you'd put the credit card

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01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 1: in a spot and there were these carbon duplicate forms

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01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: and you'd put it on there and you'd run it

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Speaker 1: over and so a guy had the card number and

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01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: then you'd fill in the amount. And that's how I

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Speaker 1: used to do credit cards back in the day.

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Speaker 2: They would hand me their diners Club I would do

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Speaker 2: the like that.

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Speaker 1: It was also accepted JCB, that's true, but that's what

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01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: they would do.

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Speaker 2: So hanging Christmas trees upside down, the silver tree like

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Speaker 2: Christmas or that be stillag tight. I don't know. You

1317
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: tell me tomato tomato, So I guess this is uh.

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: You know, people are always looking for new and interesting things.

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 2: I've never had a real tree always. We've had the

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01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: same artificial Christmas tree now for twenty five years. And

1321
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: now it's getting to the point where it's like, okay,

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: it's it's time. The kids don't want us to get

1323
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Speaker 2: rid of it, but it's it's time. But I don't

1324
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Speaker 2: think I'm going to run out and get a blue tree.

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Speaker 2: I did have. I did get a white tree when

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Speaker 2: I was in my early twenties, had Honolulu blue tinsel,

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Speaker 2: Honolulu Blue ornaments, the Honolulu Blue garland on the white

1328
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Speaker 2: Christmas tree, and rather than taking it down every year,

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Speaker 2: I put it in the storage room with a garbage

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01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: bag over it, and then just brought it out every Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Sticking with a Christmas theme tone. Yes, sir so. CBS

1352
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: was so happy with the reaction of the Everybody Loves

1353
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: Raymond reunion show that they're actually going to have a

1354
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: second Everybody Loves Raymond review show or a reunion show.

1355
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: It'll be on December twenty second. They had so much

1356
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: footage that they weren't able to cram into the hour

1357
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: of the first reunion show, that they're going to go

1358
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: ahead and have a second reunion show just based on

1359
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: all the stuff that they couldn't get in the first

1360
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: reunion show. People were that happy to see the cast

1361
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 2: back together, those who are still alive. Unfortunately, Peter Boyle

1362
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: and Doris Roberts both passed away along with I'm sorry,

1363
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't know the kids.

1364
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, tragically took his own life.

1365
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Speaker 2: It's a horrible story, all right, full disclove.

1366
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: I never watched the show. Wow, really, it just didn't

1367
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Speaker 1: come on my radar.

1368
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Speaker 2: I have nothing against Ray or Patricia Heaton or Brad Garrett.

1369
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: I never I never never watched the show. I'm not

1370
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: a huge sitcom guy. I love that show. Yeah, oh

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01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: it was. It was fantastic. And yeah, I did watch

1372
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: the reunion show. I'll be I'll probably watch this show too.

1373
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 2: It was. It was one of my favorite shows, and

1374
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: it was late and I think it started in ninety

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01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: six and went into the early two thousands. It nine seasons,

1376
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, Peter Boyle passed away almost right after the

1377
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: series concluded, which is why they said they'll never do

1378
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 2: a remake. And they're right.

1379
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: So, I mean, the money would be huge, but some

1380
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Speaker 1: things you just leave me. You just like, no, it's

1381
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Speaker 1: you can't make it right, you can't do the thing.

1382
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry about the cold, everybody. It keeps me from

1383
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Speaker 1: doing a bourbon review. Well that's why we pulled back

1384
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Speaker 1: out the Kirkling bottled in bond that you get at

1385
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Speaker 1: Costco twenty five thirty dollars a bottle.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's an incredible deal.

1387
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: If you could still find it, it'll come out again

1388
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: next year. As for this, the Belgian Blue from Crowned

1389
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: Heads thirteen dollars and fifty cents a stick with that

1390
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: Mexican's henadreas rapper fingers is a yes.

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 2: At thirteen fifty. I'm a yes for you trying it.

1392
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: I have to try it again without a.

1393
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: Cold, just to see where I'm at.

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 2: I haven't smoking yet. I can get a little bit

1395
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: out of it. But man, stuff he knows makes it

1396
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: all all really impossible. He'll be a yes.

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01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably the Belgian Blue from Crownheads. Have a merry

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01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,400
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