1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: You are listening to Rob Kendall. 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: When we talk about sending money somewhere, we're talking about 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: printing the money because we have no money. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: And Casey Daniels, my government would never lie to me, 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 3: would they? 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: On ninety three? Tell you why PC? 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: Well boy, howdy, case do we have a lot to 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: get to today? 9 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 3: You know what, Rob, I just want to start off 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: by saying, I'm exhausted today. Twenty four years ago today, 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: I had a baby. I'm still getting over it. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: And you never thought you would be as exhausted as 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: you were in that moment. And then you joined the 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: Kendall in Casey show and childbirth seemed quite easy compared 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: to that, seriously. 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: So happy birthday to my daughter. 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: That's all. 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: I know. She's not listening and she can't hear unless 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: she saw the Internet. But I'm thinking of her today 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: and speaking of her. Many people know we've discussed it 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: that she was diagnosed with a disease in the past 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: couple of years. She would be mortified to know that 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: I was speaking about this publicly. She is in remission, however, 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: she is having some tests done and I will be 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: taking a few days off coming up to go to 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: Baltimore to be with her. Just wanted to put that, 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: put that out there. If you notice that I'm missing 28 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: from the show for a few days next week, that 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: is why. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: Well, and that brings us to something we have to 31 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: address off the top of the program now. I was 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: elated to hear this because Jim Keho is my favorite 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: all time Kendall and Casey fill in guy, and now 34 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: we get him back. 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: Hopefully he'll be back on the air with us on 36 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: a fill in basis. He resigned from his position with 37 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: the Lieutenant Governor's Office yesterday voluntarily. He was not asked 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: to resign, And this is just one of those life 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: update things. We normally wouldn't even mention this, but because 40 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: he has filled in and everyone knows we're married, and 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: we're just being transparent and honest here. 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Very good, all right, So there is that. 43 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: Now we have a big announcement related to the AI, 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: the allegations of AI porn being viewed in the Lieutenant 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: Governor's Office. 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: That we're going to bring you at nine to thirty today. 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: And the theme for our show today, Casey is just 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: because someone hasn't come forward publicly that you've seen doesn't 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: mean they haven't come forward, and so we will fill 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: everybody in on what we know coming up at nine 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: to thirty. 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: Now. 53 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: In the meantime, lots of stuff going on in the 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Indiana State House. The Vice President was here yesterday, and 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: nothing Casey says transparency and above board, like slamming doors 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: and reporters faces for asking questions, going behind closed doors 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: and quickly sprinting out from where you came, big black 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: RP back to where. 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: You came, and big black curtain in front of the 60 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: Governor's office. So apparently Verantor Mike Brown was non committal 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: about calling a special session on redistricting Indiana's congressional maps. 62 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: So let's just kind of reset for everyone. I who 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: assume most people who are listening to this program are 64 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: highly attuned to what's going on with Indiana politics and government. 65 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: But the Vice President, Jade Vance, was here yesterday. He 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: met with Governor, Governor Clueless and the Flanders Boys, Rod Bray, 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: the pro tem of the Senate and Todd Houston, the 68 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Speaker of the House, and those got that is. 69 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Presumed that the majority of the. 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: Meeting was about redistricting the state of Indiana to try 71 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: to score at least one, perhaps two additional congressional districts. Now, 72 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Adam rin from Politico and the important Ville. We love Adam. 73 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: You know why we love Adam because he once said 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: I was the most powerful broadcaster in the entire state. 75 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: His word's not mine. 76 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: I was totally mortified and embarrassed to have such wonderful 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: things bestowed upon me. But Adam is a national reporter 78 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: and best known in Politico, and he will be with 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: us later today ten o'clock. In fact, Adam will be 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: with us. He talked to Mitch Daniels as a big exposa. 81 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: Mitch Daniels is very upset about what the Republicans are 82 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: proposing to do, and he also got some insider information 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: on exactly what took place yesterday. And one of the 84 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: things I think Adam's going to go into is the 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: actual people in that room. I'm saying, Braun, Houston, Bray, 86 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: I don't think they want any part of this. And 87 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: if you look at the song they were singing just 88 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: a week ago versus what Braun is now saying on 89 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: television today, they are petrified Bray, Houston, Braun. They are 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: scared to death of Donald Trump. They are scared to 91 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: get to get on the wrong side of Donald Trump. 92 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: And I think Adam will probably confirm this coming up 93 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 2: at ten o'clock that they're just gonna do it. They're 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: gonna do whatever he wants. Even though Braun said on 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: Hammer Night, I think he said on Hammer Night, toy. No, 96 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: he said on Tony that calling a special session was 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: pointless when it was helping you with property taxes, when 98 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: it was helping you have a better life. 99 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: No, can't do that, doesn't do anything, no reason to 100 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: do it. 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: But when it comes to bettering the Republican Party, when 102 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: it comes to rigging the electoral process to score additional 103 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: seats in Congress, boy howdy sign us up for that. 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: They are scared to death of Donald Trump. And it 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: is more likely than not now this will happen. 106 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: So let's talk a little bit about the actual visit. 107 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: So jd vance, he entered the State House through a 108 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: basement tunnel. The Indiana State Police were, you know, holding 109 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: reporters at bay. 110 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: Will say, wow, wait a second, it's not like this 111 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: is not like it was a Taylor Swift concert broke 112 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: out down there. Nobody was rushing the Vice president, nobody, 113 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: everybody appeared to be very cordial, polite. 114 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Some people were shouting questions. 115 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: Which is normal, but it's not like anybody was hurling 116 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: tomatoes at the guy. 117 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: No, that's true. Meeting was held behind closed doors, and 118 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: then there was no press conference afterwards. 119 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: No, there is no transparent Oh and by the way, 120 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: he allegedly went and did a million dollar fundraiser afterwards. 121 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: So somebody got a bunch of people got mad at 122 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: me about this. And this is my favorite thing is 123 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: people will bitch and they will moan, and they will 124 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: complain about the cost of everything. Everything's so expensive, And 125 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: I will say to them, why do you think that is, Well, 126 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: it's inflation. Well what causes inflation, Well the government printing money. 127 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: Well why does the government print money because they spend 128 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: it on stupid stuff. They just keep spending money which 129 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: has to be printed to be paid for, which causes 130 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: all your stuff to be more expensive. Oh okay, hey, 131 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: Biden's president. Yeah, we got to throw him out all 132 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: that wasteful, horrible spending. The vice president of the United 133 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: States took a trip halfway across the country with the 134 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: full entourage of people. Right, it's not like they send 135 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: him with one security guy, he comes with the full 136 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: androge of people, plus what it costs the state of Indiana. 137 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: We had all the state police there and all this 138 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: other stuff, and the sole purpose of the trip was 139 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: to rig maps in favor of his political party and 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: do a million dollar fundraiser for the Republican Party. How 141 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: much do you think that cost? And this was solely 142 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: this is not to help the people of America. This 143 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: is not to people to do better the people of Indiana. 144 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: It was to help the Republican Party. Everything that guy 145 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: did here yesterday on the taxpayer dime, both the state 146 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: and federal taxpayer, was to help for political purposes, and 147 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: we paid the tab for all of it. 148 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: You want to know why, I don't know. People say, well, 149 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: it was only so much. It was that waged. And 150 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: people were getting mad at me for saying this. 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: You can't be mad when one guy does it and 152 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: does the stupid, wasteful spending and then be like, well, 153 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: I like the result on this, so I'm okay with 154 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: this one. 155 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: This is why we're broke as a country. 156 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: This is why we're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt 157 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: because when our guy does our quote, our guide does 158 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: it or your guy does it. Well, it's fine because 159 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: it's a cause I like. And that's what yesterday was. 160 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: It was a political exercise that the taxpayer's front of 161 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: the bill. 162 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: For Andre Carson stated that redistricting attempts in Indiana are 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: a power grab. 164 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Sure, he's absolutely right. 165 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: Now, don't shed any tears for Carson because don't think like, 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: is he lamenting California. Is he out there ordering Gavin 167 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: Newsom decease and desist? 168 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Is he saying this. 169 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 2: Is egregious that there's an actual commission that I think 170 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: it's in the state constitution in California, Carl, if Carl's 171 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: listening in, there is it in the state constitution in California. 172 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: I think they are so serious about the district maps 173 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: there in California, Carl, you lived for years in California. 174 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: Is a producer, Carl from the Tony Katso it's in 175 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: their actual constitution right in California. 176 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: The redistricting people. 177 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that it was supposed to be nonpartisan, but I'm 178 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: telling you, as a Californian, they jerry mannered like of 179 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: course they Seine Waters represented my neighborhood in Hollywood and 180 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: her district was nowhere close to Hollywood. 181 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but the point is we're not even faking 182 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: it anymore. 183 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Caliboard is even faking it? 184 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: Is Andre Carson or Frank Mrvan Are they outscreaming about 185 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, New York will. 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Probably do it. Do it. It's gonna just happen everywhere. 187 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: This is gross. Everybody's gross. 188 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: The Republicans and Democrats, they're rigging the electoral process. 189 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: You are getting screwed. This is about them. 190 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: It isn't about you. 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: But hey, onward and upward. 192 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three 193 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: WYBC song for this guy. I thought you were going 194 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: to be friends for a minute. 195 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: It's Beck Loser. Yeah, I know, yeah, it's perfect. I 196 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: don't know if you meant to do that or not, 197 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: but that was well done. 198 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: Kevin, Yeah, just trying to be thematic. N cazes are 199 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: Rob Casey's here Kevin as well. 200 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so I thought it turned an enemy into a 201 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: front of me yesterday for a brief moment. 202 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: In time, and then he rejected. 203 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: My see, people are like, Rob is so unreasonable, And 204 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: you saw the full. 205 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: Back and forth. Did I not? Did I not? 206 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: With the gracious internet hand extended forward offer to not 207 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: only bury the hatchet with this guy, but if he 208 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 2: just did a simple task, yeah, declare him? Would that 209 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: I would throw the finest party Chuck E. Cheese has ever. 210 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: Seen, Jesus ever seen. I think the task was too 211 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: big of a lift. 212 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: Our old pal, the mayor of Lebanon, Mauthey Matt Gentry. 213 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 2: He had posted something about redistricting. 214 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: I think right, Yeah, he said, hot take, Indiana's current 215 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: congressional maps are perfect. Indiana leaders should leave them as 216 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,479 Speaker 3: they are and not consider a mid census redistricting. 217 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So Mauthe Matt, for those who don't know, is 218 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: the mayor of leban and his father is one of 219 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: the most connected Republicans in the entire state, one of 220 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: the most powerful Republicans in the entire state. And they 221 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: are uber connected into Braun world, up to and including 222 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: that his father's former partner is Bronze chief of staff. 223 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: Now that's how they connected. 224 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: That whole thing is And so I thought, well, if 225 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: anybody could get through to the Bronze, it would be 226 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: a Gentry And so I had responded, I saw that, 227 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: and you know how I feel about these maps Again, 228 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: it's we'll talk about this probably in the next segment. 229 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: How two things cannot be true at the same time, 230 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: right yep. And and by the way, if you are 231 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: just tuning in, coming up next segment, we're going to 232 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 2: do uh, we're going to bring you some new information, 233 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: very pertinent information on the allegations of AI porn being 234 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: viewed and chared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. 235 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: And uh. 236 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: But the point is, just a couple of years ago, 237 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: the state of Indiana, as they're required to do, crafted 238 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: new congressional and State House and state Senate maps and 239 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: the job of that and it had you know, they 240 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: can go to a court if it's not is to say, 241 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: we're making these maps at least the illusion of fair 242 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: and equitable. Now, everybody does a little rigging in their favor, everybody, 243 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: every state, Like, don't act like just because everybody does this, right, 244 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: but you have to at least give the illusion and 245 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: then the legislature signs off on, Hey, we've crafted fair maps. 246 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: So the maps just a couple of years ago were 247 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: seven to two. We have an election, We've had multiple elections. 248 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 2: I think since those maps were complete they have remained 249 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: seven to two and the world is moving just fine 250 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: in Indiana, Unlike Texas, who can at least hide behind 251 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: what we've had massive population growth. 252 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: Hasn't had these juice in Indiana. 253 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: So how could the maps have been fair just a 254 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, But with no population change? Now 255 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: they're brutally unfair and we must rig I mean, change them. 256 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: And it just so happens the way we're going to 257 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: change them will be totally in favor of one political party. 258 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: And so I responded to the mayor, his mayorness malthe Matt. 259 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: Mayor, Matt Gentry. I don't think, he said, Indiana, his 260 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 3: current congressional maps are perfect, And you said, I. 261 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: Said, I think, I said all crap. 262 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: I agree with Gentry, right, And then he replied and said, 263 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: I said it before and I'll say it again. We're 264 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: not as different ideologically as you think we are. And 265 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: I thought, oh my goodness, Yeah, there's an olive branch there. 266 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: I don't think he knows me all that, Oh boy, 267 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: Because then I did say, and I don't. I don't 268 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: have the thing in front of me, but I'm going 269 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: off a memory here. I think I said something to 270 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: the fact of if you will simply reject the leap district, which. 271 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: You denounce an abandoned for You're always so harsh with 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: my words. 273 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Casey, oh, that's me being harsh with my words. 274 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: What did I say, You denounced an abandoned leap and 275 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: all throw us the finest chuck e cheese party anybody's 276 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: ever seen. 277 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because of course for those you who don't know, 278 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: I think most people do. 279 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: But leap is this innovation what do they call them? 280 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: An innovation district or whatever it is. It is created. 281 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: It was created by the shadow government, the quasi government, 282 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: Indiana Economic Development Corporation, to benefit, as I like to say, 283 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: the city of Lebanon, basically at the spense of everybody else. 284 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: And boy howdy, a bunch of our money goes to 285 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: fun development and expansion and profiteering, for lack of a 286 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: better term, of some of the most powerful mega corporations 287 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: in the world. They take money from you poor and 288 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: middle class people and they give it or help facilitate 289 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: development of some of the biggest, most powerful corporations in 290 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: the world. See Eli Lilly being out there, and I 291 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: think Facebook is supposed to go out there, et cetera. 292 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: So all I said, look if we're so aligned. Because 293 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm case backing up with this, I'm pretty adamant against 294 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: the IEDC and the Leap District kill. I've heard that. Yeah, 295 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: so if we're many people are, if there were not 296 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: that different, then if you just denounced and in celebration, 297 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: I would I would try to book the whole restaurant 298 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: there at the check party. 299 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: Well, and then it fell apart. 300 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, seem like. 301 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: You were on the same page. You had to throw 302 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: out the denounce and abandoned Leap And that's where Matt 303 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: Gentry said, denounce an abandon more than fifteen billion in 304 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: investment that will provide great career opportunities, provide millions and 305 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: property tax relief for residents, pay for millions of dollars 306 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: in road and utility infrastructure, all without burdening residents and 307 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: rate payers. 308 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 309 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: So, look, the Leap District will benefit Lebanon, There's no 310 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: doubt about that. It's set up to benefit one select community. 311 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: You are paying you, the State of Indiana taxpayer, are 312 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: paying to benefit one select community, and certainly these corporations 313 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: that will go in there. I do not think it's 314 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: right for money to be taken from or in middle 315 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: class people and have all of that money. By the way, 316 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: it's done by a shadow government entity. That trying to 317 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: get info out of him is like pulling teeth. And 318 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: I don't think that's right that our money goes to 319 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: benefit one select community and select corporations. So I'm sorry 320 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 2: if we can't agree on that, then Matt, we are 321 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: very far off. 322 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: So interesting questions to be asked. And does LEAP have 323 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: its own water? Does LEAP have enough power on its 324 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: own And what is this property tax relief that he's 325 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: referring to. 326 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's I'm saying, right. I mean, they've got 327 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: some sort of special deal and we could be here 328 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: for an hour. I'm not going to subject our audience 329 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: to an hour of this because we've got something very 330 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: important to get to next segment. But you've got special 331 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: setup for the city of Lebanon and the entities that 332 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: encompass the greater the government entities that encompass the greater 333 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: Lebanon area. And let if you don't care about the 334 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: rest of the people you live around, if you don't 335 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: care about the goodness and decency of the land that 336 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: is being pillaged over, plowed over, if you don't care 337 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: about preservation of what has made us great as a 338 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: a state. From a pure dollars in cents analysis, for 339 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: the city of Lebanon, it's probably gonna work out great. 340 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: But for the rest of us, we're looking at this 341 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 2: going Eli Lilly needed millions of dollars of our money 342 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: to do a basic real estate transaction. We've heard from 343 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: these farmers how this is operating, how the state has 344 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: operated in terms of these negotiations. So no, I'm sorry, Matt, 345 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: I extended the olive branch. But if you're not ready 346 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: to denounce and reject the leap district on behalf of 347 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: the rest of the state of Indiana. 348 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: Can't be friends. 349 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, Chid the Chuck E Cheese party, it's gonna 350 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: have to wait. 351 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 3: It's on hold for now. You're listening to Kettle and Casey, 352 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 3: all right, So. 353 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: When we come back, we have some very important update, 354 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: very important update on the allegations of AI porn being 355 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: viewed and shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. 356 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: So we will get into that coming up next. 357 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: It's ninety three WYBC. 358 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: Pleas, So let's update everybody on what we have been 359 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: told as it relates to the investigation the allegation investigations 360 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: surrounding the allegations about the AI porn allegedly being viewed 361 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: and shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. And one of 362 00:18:53,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: the things that is frustrating about our business is, in 363 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: case you will back me up on this, is a 364 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: lot of times we will become aware of things, but 365 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 2: for a variety of reasons, we can't. We can't immediately 366 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: say what we know. And there are a bevy of reasons. 367 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: We could spend an hour going into them, but there 368 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: are many times. This is why we get things so 369 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: right on this program is we go do great links. 370 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: To ensure what we have is correct. 371 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: And I don't say this like lightly, I'm cutting the 372 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: crap on this one. The amount of connections the reason 373 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: we get so much stuff like who was first to 374 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: say vance was coming? It was us have tons of 375 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: connections in the state House because many people in that 376 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: state House listen to this program every day and quietly 377 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: sit at their desk and say. 378 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: You guys, go you are the voice of us. 379 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: We can't say it publicly, but you are the voice 380 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: of us. And so people reach out all the time. 381 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: And part of the struggle of this program is people 382 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: will reach out to us all the time, and then 383 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: we have to. 384 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Try to vet the stuff. 385 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: And you know, we talk a lot about We joke 386 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: about my drives into work each day, and. 387 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Now those have kind of become a part of the show. 388 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I do a lot 389 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: is like I reflect on because we talk about our lives, 390 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: we talk about ourselves, we talk about society around us. 391 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this, like driving into work 392 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: today that when I was younger, Darkness on the Edge 393 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 2: of Town was my favorite album. It was a Bruce 394 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: Springsteen album and I discovered it at a very young age, 395 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: in my late teens, and this album spoke to me 396 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: because the album is Born Run, which is arguably his 397 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: most famous album, is this forward looking vision of optimism 398 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: and youth and how the world ought to be. And 399 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: the follow up album is Darkness on the Edge of Town, 400 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: in which those same people, those same characters are several 401 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: years older and they're struggling. They're grappling with how they 402 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: wanted the world to be, but they're old enough now 403 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: to know how it really is the harshness of living 404 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: versus the idealism of your youth. And this album is 405 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: one epic collision of those people struggling with that thing. 406 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's changing and growing in life and realizing things, 407 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: seeing things. 408 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: And I was thinking about this coming in today. I 409 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: am the way I am about politics and these politicians 410 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 2: because that is the continual struggle that I have every 411 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 2: day that I've never been able to get over. And 412 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: maybe that is some sort of like mortal flaw. I 413 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: still view politics and government in an idealistic, youthful way 414 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: of how it ought to be, and yet my daily 415 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: struggle with this job, you see, is the harshness of 416 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: how rotten and awful and deceptive these people are. And 417 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: they're all over the map. And it's people you count on, 418 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: or you think you can count on. It's people you trust, 419 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: it's people you've trusted, you've known in your personal life. 420 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: It seems around every corner anytime you look at one 421 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: of these people and you dare to have that idealistic, 422 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: youthful optimism about maybe this person will be different. It 423 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: always seems to smack with the reality of who politics, 424 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: what politics is, and who pol Petitians are. And I 425 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: have watched for the past week having information at my disposal, 426 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: and I have watched how certain people have made repeated 427 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: statements that at the very best appear to be in 428 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: direct contrast. 429 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: With the facts. 430 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: Okay, So I can say this now that over the 431 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: past week I have had multiple conversations with someone who 432 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: has claimed to have viewed the video in question. Yeah, 433 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: and on multiple conversations they have described the video in question, 434 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: which is alleged to be artificial intelligence pornography of Craig 435 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Haggard's wife. This person has not only described the video 436 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: that they saw, but the circumstances in which they saw it, 437 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: and on multiple act when they have described it to me, 438 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: the details have. 439 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Always matched up. 440 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 3: Okay. 441 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: I have asked repeated questions about this, and every time 442 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: this story has been told to me, it has been 443 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: told in an identical fashion. This person has stated repeatedly 444 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: that they are willing to come on these airwaves and 445 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 2: tell this story, and the only thing that is preventing 446 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 2: them right now is they are cooperating with the authorities. 447 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: When that cooperation is done and everybody is satisfied with that, 448 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: they have said they will come on here and they 449 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: will tell this story in the same detail that they 450 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: have told me repeatedly. 451 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: And told the authorities and I assume. 452 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: I assume, So I don't know what those conversations are like, 453 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: but it is just as I have heard these things 454 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: from sources that I really trust and have been right 455 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: many times. And hearing this from a person who claims 456 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 2: to have direct knowledge of the issue, and then I 457 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: watch how the people around it have handled it. 458 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 3: It is just so disheartening, Casey, So are we planning 459 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: to have that person on the show soon? 460 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 2: They have said as soon as they have fulfilled everybody 461 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: is happy that they have fulfilled their obligation to this 462 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: whatever that is, that they will be more than willing 463 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: to come on and tell the story in the same 464 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: detail that has been told to me privately. 465 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: Okay, So that is what we have. 466 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: And by the way, if Micah wants to do his 467 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: guys a solid, Micah should come out and tell the 468 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: public how he cleared them, because what we know right 469 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: now is that apparently in one day, because the story 470 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: broke on a Saturday, right correct by Monday evening and 471 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: Tara Hoad and I think he said it before this. 472 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: I think he told Labianco this. I'll have to go 473 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: back and check, but essimply within one at best two days, 474 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: Micah Beckwith became some sort of forensic and did digital 475 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: expert and totally cleared everything in question. So the best 476 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: thing Micah can do because two stories, if you have 477 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: two stories that are in direct conflict with each other, 478 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: they cannot both be accurate. It's the same thing we've 479 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: talked about Tom Labianco's reporting from the beginning. If Micah 480 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: cleared his guys, the best thing he could do for 481 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: everyone right now. First of all, go to the authorities. 482 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: We all know. 483 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: According to Craig Haggard, the Marion County Prosecutor's office has 484 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: some sort of big thing going. 485 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: Ryan Mures ain't hard to find. Mike. 486 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: If you need help, I'll walk down there with you 487 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: and tell them and tell the public how you cleared 488 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: the people in question. That is the best thing Micah Beckwit, 489 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: who has stated publicly that he cleared these people. That 490 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: is the absolute best thing he could do right now 491 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: for transparency, for himself, for the people that are alleged 492 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: to have done this, and for the state of Indiana. 493 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: You're listening to Kennell and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC. 494 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: There's another one. 495 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 3: There's another one. 496 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: Those purple skin ridiculous as purple. 497 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: This time it was purple. At least five WNBA games 498 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: in the last week have been disrupted by a item 499 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: thrown on the court. Okay, the first thrower was arrested, 500 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: by the way, so. 501 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 2: There's only been one one person who this is the 502 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: fourth time, right. 503 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: I believe it's the fifth time if you want to 504 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: count the one that was. 505 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Oh, the one that didn't make it. Right, It's like 506 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: the the. 507 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: Bullet in the Kennedy thing, where there's a bullet that's unexplained, 508 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: and I think it's a bullet that missed. There was 509 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: one that missed the court. Okay, so if we count that, 510 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: that's five. I assume most people know what we're talking about. 511 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: We do tiptoe somewhat carefully around this is this is 512 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: a public airwaves program. And so there was a device 513 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: of a sexual nature that has been repeatedly thrown onto 514 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: various WNBA basketball courts. And last night there was another one. 515 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: I don't even know who the teams that were playing, 516 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: but this one was of a purple nature. And like 517 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I mean, this is someone who thinks 518 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: the league is not serious. I mean, I think Caitlin 519 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 2: Clark is a very serious attraction, but I don't think 520 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: the league series, but this is totally uncalled for it 521 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: and people should not be doing this, and it's just 522 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: it's not fair to the players, it's not fair. 523 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: To the you know. 524 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: The fans who go to pay the month. Like it's 525 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: just I just I think it needs to stop. But 526 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: clearly now it's just a thing that seems like it's 527 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 2: going to keep happening. 528 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: So you had somebody arrested at the Valkyrie's Dream game 529 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: in Atlanta on July twenty ninth, and now somebody else 530 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: has been arrested for doing the throwing at the Mercury 531 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: Sun game. And of course the WNBA they released that 532 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: statement saying any fan throwing objects will be ejected and 533 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: face a minimum on your ban, and legal consequences may 534 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 3: include arrest and prosecution. And the WNBA wants to put 535 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: their emphasis on the players, the fans and official safety. 536 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: There's certain things, and you know this because you've been 537 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: in media and marketing and you know all that for 538 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: quite some time. There's a certain point in any TV 539 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: show or entertainment. 540 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: Career where you're. 541 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: Like, there's no coming back from this, and I don't 542 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: care how entertaining Caitlin Clark is as a player. This 543 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: is like, it's I don't see how you can. I mean, 544 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: if you're going to sponsors national you know, television rights deals, 545 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: I don't care how much political correctness there is or 546 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: need to feel like you've got to give somebody something 547 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: because it's one sex over the other or whatever. If 548 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: the advertisers know so that this is what the fans 549 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: who are willing to pay good. I mean, you got 550 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: to be pretty close to the court right to get 551 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: that thing on the court. People are paying this money 552 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 2: and they're going to great links and risking criminal prosecution 553 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: to do this. That's what a kind of a how 554 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: I'm serious, they take your league. 555 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: You've got to you're not throwing a bunch of money 556 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: behind that well. 557 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: The New York Post reported that it was a group 558 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: of cryptocurrency traders who are claiming to be behind this 559 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: epidemic of items being thrown Why. There was an an 560 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: anonymous spokesperson for their group, uh huh, who said that 561 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: they were launching a meme coin. 562 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Call oh here we. 563 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: Go, Yeah, green dildo coin, and that they're plotting pranks. 564 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but this one was purple Wow. 565 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: That doesn't work right, Maybe it's now there's like maybe 566 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: the initiations. 567 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: They wanted to take credit for it to get a 568 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: launch of their product, but it really wasn't that. 569 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So two questions, ye okay one and I'm not 570 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: trying to make any way light of terrorism, but you 571 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: do see this like with terrorist groups where something will 572 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: happen and it's some rogue guy and they all rush 573 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: to claim credit for it because it'll make them look good, 574 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: Like is it this or is it something started as 575 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: something and now it's become a thing and it's totally 576 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 2: like out of control. 577 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't right, Like at. 578 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: First they were like, yeah, that was us to try 579 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: and help their product, but now that it's jumped the shark, 580 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: they're like, no, no, it wasn't us. 581 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. 582 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: You know, you never want to be like overzealous person here, 583 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: so you want to keep some perspective on everything, but. 584 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: The you want the. 585 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: Product to succeed or fail on its own merits. And 586 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: it works both ways, right, Like we've been saying on 587 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: this program, and you can't say it's sexist because you 588 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: are a woman. 589 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Last I check, thank you for noticing. 590 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: I mean, as far as you've told me. The you 591 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: can't say this sexist. Women's basketball has just never been popular. 592 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: Now it certainly there's pockets of people who really enjoy it, 593 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: they go to the games. 594 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: That's great, good for them. But in terms of national attraction. 595 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: Not until Kitlyn Clark right now. 596 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: But she is the attraction. 597 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Women's basketball is not the attraction. She is the She 598 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: is the attraction the same way as softball was an 599 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: attraction when the King and his court would go somewhere. 600 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: It's this guy who's an incredible pitcher. Like and again 601 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: I can say this, like I said about the sport 602 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 2: that I watch, Tiger Woods was the attraction to golf. 603 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: Golf was lifted up, but golf also had years of legitimacy, 604 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: years of great you know players, Jack Nick Nicholas, Tom Watson, 605 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 2: all the Phil Nicholson. 606 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: W NBA doesn't have that. 607 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: And it'll be fascinating to see and then sounds horrible 608 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: to say a loud but this is what we do here. 609 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: When she returns to play, she meaning Kaitlyn Clark, will 610 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: someone do this at a game that she. 611 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: Is she's saying it or will it stop once she's 612 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: back on the court, because they actually do want to 613 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: see her play. 614 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, and I don't 615 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: know how she can single handedly lift the league out 616 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: of this, because, let's face it, newness is everything. Like 617 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: your husband is into collectibles, everybody wants the rookie card 618 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: of somebody. Sure, everybody wants the in in case your 619 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: husband the first Sports Illustrated cover of somebody, because it's new, 620 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: it's fresh, three or four years down the road. 621 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: That person's not new. They may be great, but they're 622 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: not new. They're not fresh. 623 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: That's not something that people crave because they've seen it, 624 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: they've had it. So no matter how popular she may be, 625 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: the newness effect of her has worn off now, especially 626 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: with all the injuries and you haven't seen her. 627 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: Well, she's not in a rookie season. 628 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she's two years in basically has missed 629 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: more than half of this season. I'm trying to do 630 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: math in my head. Maybe I'm a little off on that, 631 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: and she's been out of sight, out of mine thinking 632 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: what August twelfth maybe is the projected comeback date? So 633 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: almost a month. So I don't know how this league 634 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: recovers from this. I'm not trying to be mister Doomsday. 635 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: But if that's how the public is viewing your league, 636 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: then I don't know. That's not a great projection. 637 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 3: Something else that came out yesterday and gamers will be 638 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 3: excited about this. GTA six will officially release on May 639 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: twenty sixth of twenty twenty six. 640 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: That's Grand Theft Auto. 641 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: Yes, and people have been waiting for years and years 642 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: for this. 643 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: Really, what is that? 644 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: Tell me what that is? I don't I don't do 645 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: the video games. What is Grand Theft Auto. It's some 646 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: game where you ride around stealing cars and you get. 647 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: Like, you know, POV what point of view or your You. 648 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: Are the thief? 649 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: Right? 650 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: That's the big lim in America. You're the car thief. 651 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: This is this is and this is like the Babe 652 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: Ruth of video games. Right. 653 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: The CEO said he's not ready to come on the 654 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 3: pricing of the game. 655 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: However, Well that sounds uplifting, right, okay. Adam Ran of 656 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: Politico and Importantville's going to join us. Next, he talked 657 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: to Mitch Daniels, who is not happy at the redistricting. 658 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: He also got some inside scoop and went on and 659 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 2: what went on yesterday between the Vice President and leaders 660 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: of the state, we'll talk to him. 661 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: Coming up next, it's Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIVC