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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, there was so much football over the

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Speaker 1: past what four days, we got to give it its

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Speaker 1: own segment. It's Kennell and Casey Shoan Rop. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to the WIBC hotline. A man who knows is football

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Speaker 1: almost as well as he knows his betting. Jason Hammer,

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Speaker 1: one half of the Hammer and Nigel Show, joins us.

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Speaker 1: Now Hammer, Hello, why.

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Speaker 2: Does producer Kevin hate me? Why do you bring me

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Speaker 2: in with sweet Home Alabama? That's just such a middle

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Speaker 2: finger to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even think about that, but that's maybe

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Speaker 1: what you deserve, according to a lot of people, is

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Speaker 1: a big giant middle finger. All right, So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about IU first, because I think that is the story

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Speaker 1: not only captivating the state but also the nation. If

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Speaker 1: these guys win the national championship a week from today

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Speaker 1: in Miami, is that the greatest story in the history

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Speaker 1: of college sports?

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Speaker 2: Man, it's up there. It really is. The two year turnaround.

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Speaker 2: Now what I think people are forgetting because I see

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Speaker 2: a lot of the national media jumping on this thing up.

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Speaker 2: It's a cinderella story. They were pretty good a year ago.

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Speaker 2: They made it to the College Football Playoff and the

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Speaker 2: only games they lost a year ago were the two

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Speaker 2: teams that played in the National Championship. So it's kind

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Speaker 2: of been a two year run here under coach sig.

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Speaker 2: But the story's going to be pretty strong. And the

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Speaker 2: way they've been doing it, lob I said this on

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Speaker 2: Friday when I did the News Nation thing. They're just

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Speaker 2: bullying some of the biggest names in the sport. They're

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Speaker 2: not just beating them, they're out muscling Ohio State, Alabama

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Speaker 2: and now Oregon. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think about like on our degenerates next

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Speaker 1: to our sports betting podcast, you and I made a

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Speaker 1: at the start of the year, Hey pick some outlier

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Speaker 1: to make the college football playoff and I picked them

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Speaker 1: at five to one to just make the playoff, right,

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Speaker 1: just simply make the playoff. And they're the best team

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Speaker 1: in the country and it's not even close. Everybody totally

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Speaker 1: missed it with these guys this year, and Signetti, I

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Speaker 1: think has I'll turn over do on this. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that I think Signetti has done very well

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Speaker 1: is you got a bunch of men out there, like

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Speaker 1: you got twenty three and twenty four year old guys,

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Speaker 1: and when they're competing against nineteen year old guys. Look,

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Speaker 1: give me the twenty three twenty four year old guys

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Speaker 1: every single time.

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Speaker 2: But they got to be the right twenty three year

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Speaker 2: old guys. Because take the IU basketball program the last

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Speaker 2: three to four years for an example, they spent a

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Speaker 2: lot of money on innil and it was the wrong dudes.

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Speaker 2: They were the type of dudes that would go out

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Speaker 2: to the bars and flash their money at people and

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Speaker 2: then go out in the court and you lose. Like,

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Speaker 2: that's not the type of dudes you want to bring in.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be a group of guys that want

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Speaker 2: to play as a team. And I know that's such

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Speaker 2: a cliche, cheesy thing to say, but again, IU doesn't

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Speaker 2: have any five star recruits on that last year. One

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Speaker 2: that shows you that the people doing the reviews of

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Speaker 2: some of the athletes don't know their a'nus from a

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Speaker 2: hole in the ground. But two, when you get that

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Speaker 2: on your shoulder, help Tom Brady use that his entire care.

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Speaker 2: He was drafted late. When you find motivated dudes like

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Speaker 2: that Dad, that want to play and want to get better,

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Speaker 2: you can go on a run.

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Speaker 1: Hammer joins us. Let's turn our attention to the NFL

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Speaker 1: best fifty bucks. I ever lost the Bears. They beat

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Speaker 1: the Packers. What a comeback. If we're going to say

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Speaker 1: I use the greatest story maybe in the history of

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Speaker 1: college sports, that's one of the greatest wins ever, right,

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Speaker 1: hammered down eighteen and a half and the way they

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Speaker 1: did it. How about those Bears.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I am so angry that you did not take

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Speaker 2: our advice of hedging your bets, cause fifty bucks for

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Speaker 2: you is like one thousand bucks to anybody else. You

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Speaker 2: bet fifty bucks in the Packers because you are guaranteeing

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Speaker 2: yourself some sort of satisfaction at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: And at halftime, when Green Bay was just rolling the Bears,

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Speaker 2: we all jumped on the gambling threat and said it'd

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Speaker 2: be worth just betting five bucks on the Bears right now.

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Speaker 2: Why not? Five bucks would have paid you seventy five.

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Speaker 2: But you didn't do it. You didn't do it, and

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Speaker 2: now you're down fifty heading into this week. So America

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Speaker 2: wants to know. Indiana wants to know. Are you going

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Speaker 2: to double down?

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Speaker 1: Oh, one hundred percent. Absolutely. Now here's the thing, And

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Speaker 1: I told you this in the thread. If i'd have

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Speaker 1: put that five dollars on them, they'd have lost by

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Speaker 1: thirty five points. I would have just like I just

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Speaker 1: would have lost. I would have lost five dollars, and

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Speaker 1: then I would have been pissed off. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: and this is what I keep telling people. All the

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Speaker 1: Bears have to do is win four games to win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl at fifty dollars a game, that's two

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. You're telling me any person that's any sort

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Speaker 1: of avid sports fan in this country that that if

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Speaker 1: I said, you have to pay two hundred dollars and

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Speaker 1: your team will win the championship. Look, I am such

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Speaker 1: a betting poison hammer that the best thing I can

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Speaker 1: do for the Bears is to bet against them. I

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Speaker 1: got to spend two hundred dollars to help the Bears

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Speaker 1: win the championship.

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Speaker 2: And if you think about it this way, like tickets,

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Speaker 2: if you wanted to go to a game, way more

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Speaker 2: than two hundred dollars. If you go to some sort

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Speaker 2: of viewing party, you're gonna spend money on food and drinks,

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Speaker 2: probably going to end up being over two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: You can ride in theory the entire post season outs

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Speaker 2: and pay two hundred bucks for your team to win

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Speaker 2: a championship. I like it. I'm here for that because

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Speaker 2: I'm that level of superstitious.

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Speaker 1: All right, tell us what's coming up this afternoon on

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Speaker 1: the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: We have the biggest stories of the weekend. Guy Welford

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Speaker 2: comes by from Monday Gun Day. And don't forget. I

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Speaker 2: charity bowling event this Friday at Woodland Bowl, Red White

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Speaker 2: and Bowl presented by Jack Daniels. They just added some

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Speaker 2: tickets late last week. They might be sold out, but please,

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Speaker 2: if you want to go, it's a good time. Buy

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Speaker 2: him right now at WIBC dot com.

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Speaker 1: Jason Hammer, thank you, Thank you,