1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Let's go to Cincinnati. We're joining us now on the 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Always and Today very Busy and Available to be sponsored 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: guest line Ben Baby is a return guest of the program. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: He covers the Bengals for ESPN dot Com. Ben busy time. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: I realize certainly appreciate the time. Let's begin with this, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: and that is from Indianapolis's standpoint, you probably are not 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: going to see anybody or very few people that you 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: will regularly see on Sundays. What is the Bengals approach 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: to this game? 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think that you're just not gonna 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: see a whole lot of starters. Zach Taylor said that 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: they're not anticipating those starters to play in that game. 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: So we'll even see Jake Browning, the backup quarterback, get 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: some run there. I think you're seeing a lot of 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: Desert rudder and Peyton thorn. But you know, as teams, 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: you know, the Bengals had a pretty extensive scrimmage yesterday 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: fifty one plays, I believe, so that was essentially their 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: final dress rehearsal for the upcoming season. But you know, 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people wonder should the defense 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: be out there because they did not look great in 21 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: these first two preseason games. 22 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: You know, one of the big storylines in Cincinnati has 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: been the situation clearly with Trey Hendrickson. I mean, when 24 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: you have a player of that level in capability and talent, 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: and then you know that there is obviously a divide 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: between player and franchise, and seemingly every day the storyline changes, 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: and if in the last twelve hours it has changed again, 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: my apologies, where do things stand right now? 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny sometimes, you know some of that 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: some of that change can be perception, but in reality, 31 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: it's a lot of it stayed the same over the 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks or so in terms of you 33 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: know what's going on, and you know, and from Monday 34 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: night Trey told our Laura Rutledge that you know that 35 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: the sides are an agreement on the length and the 36 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: total value, which is what we had heard for weeks now, 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: and then the same thing still stands that the guaranteed 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: money is the hold up in terms of that deal, 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: and so can both sides find a middle ground on 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: the guaranteed money. For Trey, that's been the biggest thing 41 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: the entire time, you know, going back to when He 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: started talking to us in April about it, and we 43 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: knew even at the end of last season that this 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: was going to be a problem with Trey and getting 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: him under contracts that he likes for this year because 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: he still has a year left. I think it's going 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: to be to the Bengals to kind of, maybe for 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: you know, continue to change their precedent on guaranteed money 49 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: for veterans. They just do not like doing it after 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: the first year. And I think for a player like 51 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Trey who's been a four time Pro bowler, an All Pro, 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: you could argue that if the BEng will say, listen, 53 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: we're not gonna do it for everybody, but if you're 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: at to play at an all pro level, it's something we'll 55 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: do when contracts come up. I think that would be fair. 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: That would allow them to maintain their positioning and negotiating 57 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: in future years. Will also making sure they accommodate their 58 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: best players. And I think that it's probably is everyone's 59 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: trying to find a way to move forward and find 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: a solution that works. But right now I think it's 61 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: going to take both sides coming to the middle a 62 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: little bit more. 63 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Ben Baby our guests from ESPN dot Com. Bengals beat 64 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: writer Ben Indianapolis is a franchise that has been, albeit 65 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: pretty peripherally, linked as a possibility of one that would 66 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: be interested to dance with Trey Henderson. But it takes 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: two to tango, obviously, and the Bengals would have to 68 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: to work in that as well. Is that wishful thinking 69 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: or do you believe that the Colts are in fact 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: an organization that Cincinnati could pick up and make a 71 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: phone call towards. 72 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I do not think the Colts are 73 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: a player in this. You know, it's funny. My my 74 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: college Stephen Holder and I we talked about this at 75 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: length and talk to our sources, and I just do 76 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: not think that the Colts seem like a contrary to 77 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: what's out there. I do not think that they're a 78 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: viable option for them, And to be to be honest 79 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: with you, I think it's going to be tough for 80 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: anybody to really trade what you're Henderson right now. You 81 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: look at what they're what trade is looking to make 82 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: and it's never been top of market. But you know 83 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: you're looking to get in that. You know he's looking 84 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: to get in that. You know that upper tier range 85 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: of top edge rushers, which you know, his production warrants that. 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: I think the age question is a concern. So the 87 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: team that you know trades for him not only has 88 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: to pay him that amount, but also has to give 89 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 2: up the assets for the Bengals support to make sense 90 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: to give up an All Pro player, And I think 91 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: at this stage in the off season it's very rare 92 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: for that to occur. When you look at trades that 93 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: are happening right now, you see in a lot of 94 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: guys who are maybe on the back end of rosters 95 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: or maybe expiring contracts that are of much lower value. 96 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Ramsey's probably the most notable trade that 97 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: happened recently. But then you look at it, Mika Fitzpatrick 98 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: was attached to that as well, So you know, I 99 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: think that when you look at viable trade partners late 100 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: in the off season, that's a really big ask. But regardless, 101 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: I just the Colts being a player in that that 102 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: doesn't seek to make sense at this moment. 103 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: Ben, I want to go to and I appreciate the 104 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: time Ben Baby our guest. When you look at you know, 105 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is what would you say, a top five 106 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL Top three. You can make the 107 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: argument he's the most accurate passer. I mean, you know, 108 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: he's right there in the upper echelon, clearly right. And 109 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: yet he is a guy that kind of took college 110 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: football by storm when he got to LSU, and it 111 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: was like, where in the world did this come from? 112 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: And you wondered what it would mean and translate to 113 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: him as an NFL player. It seemingly did not miss 114 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: a beat. How much of sitting and learning and being 115 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: forced to prove himself at Ohio State and then having 116 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: to go to LSU to even get a second lease 117 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: do you think still drives Joe Burrow? What kind of 118 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: a guy does he seem to be outside of what 119 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: we see on the field. 120 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I think I learned a lot 121 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: about him last year when they were four and eight, 122 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: five and eight, six and eight. It's the same guy 123 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: every day, and whether it's in the middle of the offseason. 124 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: We can be after an ota and he feels like 125 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: he didn't have a great performance, he is as pissed 126 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: off as as you will find after, you know, after 127 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: a regular season loss. I mean, that guy every day 128 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: of the year. It seems like after every practice he 129 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: wants to go out there and absolutely crush it. Every 130 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: rep is almost like life and death. I think it's 131 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: funny that Joe Buck last week on the Monday night 132 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: games and go down, Joe, it's August, and I was like, 133 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm like, I don't think Joe other 134 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: fands what that means. It doesn't matter if it's August, March, December, whatever. 135 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: If he's out there, it's not for him to make 136 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: a play. I think he only knows one speed. I 137 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: think that's been a big reason why he's been so 138 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 2: successful over the course of his career. Had a wonderful 139 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: high school career. I think that time at Ohio State 140 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: really tested him because he felt like he was good 141 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: enough to be on the field and never materialized. And 142 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, I'll be honest, that first year at LSU, 143 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: he wasn't blowing people away. 144 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: I was. 145 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: I covered the SEC that year. I was on the 146 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: I covered Joe Burrow's last college loss, seven overtime lost 147 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: at A and M. When I was with Dallas Morning News. 148 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody watched LSU that year and thought 149 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: this was a guy who was going to end up 150 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: lighting the world on fire. I mean, also, we probably 151 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: in hindsight, should have said that Matt Canadas should never 152 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: be an offensive coordinator. Again, inexplicably, the Steel has hired 153 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: him despite what he did at LS with Joe Burrow 154 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase. So I think that there are some 155 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: factors that play there. But he's a guy that has 156 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: driven more than anybody you'll find in the locker room. 157 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: And I know that in the NFL. It's crazy to 158 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 2: say this, but that is rare. It's rare to find 159 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: people who every day are very much committed to being 160 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: great at their craft. I think that the truly great 161 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 2: ones they understand that at a high level. 162 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you can gather Ben the reason I 163 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: ask it. And I know that you don't cover the colts, 164 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: but you and Steven, you know, I know, speak fairly 165 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: regularly and maybe bounce things off one another. Stephen Holder 166 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: of your colleague Anthony Richardson kind of was in a 167 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: similar situation, did not have a lot of starts at Florida, 168 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: came in and was kind of handed the keys. But 169 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it seems as though, like because Burrow 170 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: would be kind of a good comp more success in 171 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: college obviously, right, But seemingly Burrow, I'm assuming, is the 172 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: guy that it feels like is there at like five 173 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and leaves at eight o'clock at night. 174 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that at all. It just seems that 175 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: way because there has not been a drop off of 176 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: intensity at any point with him, and it feels like 177 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: a lax and Richardson and I wonder if it's because 178 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: of the fact that Burrow had something denied to him 179 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: in his career at some point. 180 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to make any 181 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: unfair assumptions on Anthony's work ethic. You know, I've only 182 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: heard great things about him, and I you know, everything 183 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: I've heard seems to be he wants to be someone 184 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: who wants to go out and compete at a really 185 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: high level. I think what's tough is that, you know, 186 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: a lot of times when you have just the undeniable 187 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: arm talent that Anthony has. I think that Brow last 188 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: year he made Week one, which is incredible. I can't 189 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: really if it was Week one or not, but the 190 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: one where he just just fired at ball seventy yards 191 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: down the middle. I mean that is not common. That 192 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: is not that is not a whole lot of people 193 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: that can do that. I think what's tough is and 194 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: you saw this that you have to get the reps. 195 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: And I think it's a mix of both. You know, 196 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: Joe did learn at Ohio State for three years, but 197 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: then he got two years of reps at LSU and 198 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: then you know, if we're going to be honest, he 199 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: wasn't really right in the world on fire his rookie 200 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: year either, and you know, his sophomore year in the NFL. 201 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, the defense really is the reason why they 202 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: had a really good season. That Burrough played well in Spurts, 203 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: but I think if you go and look at the numbers, 204 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: he really didn't come into his own into his third year. 205 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: And what helped Joe was that he was in a 206 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: really stable situation. Zach Taylor built everything around Joe. The 207 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: Bengals built everything around Joe. Held the whole city is 208 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: good around Joe. At this point, he had consistency as 209 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: offensive four nater, his quarterback coach and that, and and 210 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: they gave him good receivers as well. It helps him. 211 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: You get your your your old college teammate who you 212 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: have a lot of chemistry with to come in and 213 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: when you need to play, you can go out and 214 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: do that. So he was well supported as well. But 215 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: it wasn't like he came in overnight and looks like 216 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: him played that an MPP level. In fact, he's had 217 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: to get a lot better over time, you know, talking 218 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: about you know, there was a lot of conversation about 219 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson and that and that blitz he took in 220 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: the preseason opener. Joe Burrow had a ton of bunch, 221 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: you know, he had a bunch of free rushers as 222 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: a rookie. I mean they came from everywhere and over 223 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: the years. Guess what they don't come as austen and 224 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: it comes with reps. And so I think for Anthony, 225 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: you know, getting those reps it would have been helpful, 226 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: would have been beneficial. Unfortunately, he's had a lot of 227 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: injury problems. And by the way, you have a fun 228 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: office and a coaching staff that's consistently trying to prove 229 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: that they belong and that they should you know, keep 230 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: their jobs essentially, and I think that makes you know, 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: the timelines for these quarterbacks to get the reps that 232 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 2: it shortens that a little bit. 233 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: BENBABYESPN dot com is where you can read his work. 234 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Of course, you see him on the network as well, 235 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: covering the Cincinnati Bengals. Ben appreciate the time as always. 236 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, thank you all. 237 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I've been Baby joining us on the program. 238 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: Speaking of lost and Clueless, we bring on Kyle Netdrip 239 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: from the NS. 240 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: How about that for an intro for Kyle Netrip. That's 241 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Netdrib's voice, not mine. I would never say that 242 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: he is lost in clueless, but he joins us now 243 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: on the always busy, Available to be sponsored guest line. Kyle, 244 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: It's hard to believe that. And I've got this weird. 245 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: It feels like at the rate we're going that we're 246 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: five years removed from having you on on the fourth 247 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: of July to preview the next week's high school football 248 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: season getting underway, right. 249 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 3: That doesn't it always seems like we start the season 250 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: earlier and earlier. It's really not the case, I would think, 251 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: but it does seem that way. 252 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with this. You know, I think that 253 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: we oftentimes think of just the same cast of characters, 254 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: and I mean that in a good way when it 255 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: comes to high school football. Powers. But one of the 256 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: things that is fascinating is if you really look historically, 257 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: speaking at the trends of dominant athletic programs, it really 258 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: can show you the migration patterns of a city and 259 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: the expansion of the city. And I think you know 260 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: what I mean by that. You know what I mean. 261 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean Westfield twenty years ago was a small school. 262 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Now it's a power. Same with Hamlet in Southeastern or Fishers. 263 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: It seems like we're starting to grow that way westward 264 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: and seeing better schools there. But give me a school 265 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: this is year? What for you? Sixteen on the beat? Seventeen? 266 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: I think eighteen eighteen. Sorry to sell you short, So 267 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: give me, give me a school or two this year. 268 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: That looks to be a power that when you first 269 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: arrived in the Indianapolis market, you were hardly mentioned in 270 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: them because they were so small. 271 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's a good point, you know, And 272 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 3: that's something that you know, And I was doing these 273 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: these previews this year, it's like, man, when did Westfield 274 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: become you know the I mean you almost kind of 275 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: write them in as a as a sectional champion every 276 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: year and a potential state contender every year, where you 277 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 3: weren't really thinking that way, you know, even five six 278 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: years ago, even as good as they were, and they 279 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: were getting a lot better as a five A program, 280 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: but then to make the jump, you know, the six 281 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 3: A has been you know, pretty pretty dramatic, you know, 282 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: to be a six A power, and now you see 283 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 3: Brownsburg winning it last year. Definitely, the suburban Indianapolis area 284 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: teams have gotten you know, or it used to be 285 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: the at the top of the top. It was the 286 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: township schools Carmel, Center Grove that were the dominant forces. 287 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: Now the suburban HCC teams are more you know in 288 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: that in that conversation, I shoot, shoot, the championship last 289 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: year was was Westfield Brownsburg, So you know, I don't 290 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: know that they're I mean, I would say, you know, 291 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's hard. It's hard in six A 292 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: because there's limited numbers of schools you can really look 293 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: at that way, you know, and and you know, each 294 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: of those schools have kind of had their their ups 295 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: and downs at different times. I think I think definitely, 296 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: you know, probably this year it's kind of the same team, 297 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: you know, the Brownsburg, Westfield. I think Avon's going to 298 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: be really good. I don't know if they're a state contender, 299 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: but I think they're getting a lot better. But you know, 300 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: we were talking about them ten ten years ago. They 301 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: were really good, you know, under Mark Bless. So you know, 302 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: maybe that's not a good example, but but there are 303 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: to your point, that is definitely happening. And now you 304 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: know for sure when we see teams like Westfield making 305 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: it multiple times, Brownsburg making it multiple times, there's there's 306 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: and now you look at Carmel and they're they're trying 307 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: to get back to that where you never thought that, 308 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: you know, even five years ago, that they would be 309 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 3: climbing back, you know, or having to climb back there. 310 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: They're kind of a team that you wouldn't see them 311 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: as an underdog necessarily, but they're kind of in that 312 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: role going into this year and Kevin Wright's first year 313 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 3: as coach. So that's been an interesting change. To your point, 314 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: I don't have a great answer for your question, but 315 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: it is a qull point. 316 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: How about this, Kyle, Kyle and Edrip our guests. Before 317 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: we get into specifics in terms of games or matchups 318 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: that are going to be intriguing early on, let's get 319 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: to this and that is teams that are indeed playing 320 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: at a different class this year, either that moved up 321 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: or went back down again than a year ago. Who 322 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: is reacclimating to a new class this year. 323 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a change i'd say made to 324 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: you know, to make these changes annually, it's still a 325 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: two year you know. So for instance, Cathedral moved down 326 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: back down to five A from six A. That'll be 327 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: for the next two years at least, depending on what happened. 328 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: So they're making these changes annually based on the previous 329 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: two year period. But if you make that move like 330 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: Cathedral this year, then you know you're staying there for 331 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: two years at least, so you're not changed the school. 332 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: The specific school won't change annually, but they will make 333 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: changes annually. So that said. Probably the biggest ones the 334 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: Cathedral I mentioned six A to five A taking their 335 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: places Decatur Central. They basically just swapped spots as far 336 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: as Decatur moving into their old sectional in in six 337 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: A with the Lawrence North LC in North Central. Decatur 338 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: was the five A champion last year, and then in 339 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: five A Newpal moves up. So now New Pal and 340 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: Cathedral are in the same sectional, one moving up, one 341 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: moving down, so you can kind of set your schedule. 342 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: That's going to be a great game whenever that happens. 343 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 3: Down the road in Plainfield is top ten team two 344 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: in that same sectional. So New pal moves up. They 345 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: were the four A champion last year. And also a 346 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: big one is Heritage Hills, which was the three A 347 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: champion last year now in four A and they will 348 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: be I think, really stay contender for sure in four 349 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: A as well. So those are the I think that 350 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: may be it for this for this cycle, but we'll 351 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: see more, you know, coming next next cycle as well. 352 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: With the new there'll be a classification change as well 353 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 3: for next year as far as the reshuffling of sectionals 354 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 3: and whatnot, you know. 355 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: For the Kyle for those that are unfamiliar, Kyle Medrip 356 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: is our guest from the Indianapolis Star talking about high 357 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: school football. The the requirements I'm using that in air quotes, 358 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the what it is that takes place that causes a 359 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: team to have to change classes, either moving up or down. 360 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a general idea here, but for 361 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: those that don't know, could you explain why a Cathedral 362 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: would be a six A school goes back down to 363 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: five A or why somebody would be a five A 364 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: that goes to six A, et cetera. 365 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to accumulate a certain amount of points 366 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: over a two year period. It's six points and that's 367 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: based off you know, four for a state champion, three 368 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: for a semi state championship, two for a regional, and 369 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: then one for a sectional. So you know, for instance, 370 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 3: if you win a state title and then win a regional, 371 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: you would bump over a two year period, you would 372 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: bump up. That would accumulate six points and bump you 373 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: up to the next classification over you know, for the 374 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: next two year period. So it's it that's kind of 375 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: the cycle that it goes on. In Cathedral case, they're 376 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: they're actually for a team in football by enrollment size, 377 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: but you know they've been playing up because they keep accumulating. 378 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: And now if you're up, you know, if you're up 379 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: playing in an upper you know, in a higher class, 380 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: and you accumulate, I think they moved it back to 381 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: three points now. So if you if you accumulate three 382 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: points over that two year period that you're up, you 383 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: stay in that class for the next cycle as well. 384 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 3: So that's why Cathedral bump back down, they didn't accumulate 385 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 3: that amount of points. So now they'll be in five 386 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: A for this two year period. So that's a it's 387 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: been I think, you know, overall, I think it's the 388 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: success factor has worked to its you know, to why 389 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: it was put in place. It's kind of affected the school, 390 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: affected the programs that have won a lot at one level. 391 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: And you know, I know there's there's you know, every 392 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: system like this has its flaws. Different states do it 393 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: different ways. But you know, I think it's had its 394 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: It's served a purpose for the good of at least 395 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: for high school football. I think you could probably argue 396 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: other sports are maybe different, but but I think this 397 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: has been pretty good overall for football. 398 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: Three best teams at least on paper heading into the 399 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: season in the Indianapolis area. 400 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: Go I would say Center Grove, Brownsburg, and New pal 401 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: and Westfield, though they'll give you four, I think because 402 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 3: those New thousand and five A, those other three or 403 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: six A. But I would say those, you know, three, four. 404 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: Three most intriguing in terms of from a year ago. 405 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: They showed flash or perhaps disappointment, and you are the 406 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: most intrigued by the enigma of what they could be 407 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: this year either way. 408 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: For sure, Carmel, like I mentioned there, there is you 409 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: know coming back Kevin right back in the helm, right yeah. 410 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: And then I would say to cater Central for sure 411 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 3: moving up to six A, see see if they have 412 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: the depth to compete. And then the team they're playing 413 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: tonight also, I think Avon will be from an intrigued standpoint, 414 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm curious how that game goes tonight with those two 415 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: playing each other. 416 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Best players in the area, I. 417 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: Would say, gosh, now now I need to I'd say 418 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: jj Finch at Warren Central for sure, defensive end going 419 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: to Alabama. And then you know, you think about the 420 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: you know, the skill position players. Gosh, I know I'm 421 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: gonna end up leaving people out launching sales from Lawrence North. 422 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: That receiver's definitely a fun player to watch. He's only 423 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: a junior, has a ton of offers on the table. 424 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: And then Jace Brewer from Franklin Central too is another 425 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Those might not be the three I'm not looking at 426 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: my at my mister football preview stuff here, but those 427 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: three Brewers got a lot of offers. I mean, he 428 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: just got offered by USC this week. He's also a 429 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: junior and just a really physical specimen type player. So 430 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: you know those are a few. 431 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: Kyle. I've always felt like Kyle Ednrip is our guest 432 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: from the Indianapolis Star. And maybe this isn't the case. Now, 433 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, you give me your thoughts on it. But 434 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: I have mentioned before one hundred times. I'll make it 435 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: one hundred and one when I worked in local television 436 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: and it's been since gosh, I mean the cold Super 437 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: Bowl year when I worked in television. But when I 438 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: did work in television, the one thing when I moved 439 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: from television to radio that I miss, the one thing 440 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: that I miss was I loved Friday night football when 441 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: we would take the helicopter. Nobody takes the helicopter out anymore, 442 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: I realized, But when we would take the helicopter out, 443 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: or I would go out on a Friday night, especially 444 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: in the late fall, and go to two different high 445 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: school games and get some video and get a couple 446 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: of highlights and put them together. And I would go 447 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: to all these communities, Kyle, all around central Indiana, and 448 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: the crowds were just massive. And I mean this is 449 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: no disrespect to the love of basketball in this state. 450 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: But for as much talk as there is about who's 451 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: your hysteria, I think you'd make the argument that who's 452 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: your hysteria now is almost more a Friday night lights 453 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: thing because it seems like high school football packs in 454 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: the crowds in the communities even more so than basketball. 455 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Am I totally off base. 456 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: Not at all, And I think there's different reasons for that. 457 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: And I do think you know, hoo's your hysterias still exists, 458 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: it's just not you know, to find it, you know 459 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: more in the tournament, you know, and you can't. I 460 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: mean the Jeffersonville championship game against Fishers last year or 461 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: the Kokomo game a year before that was like those 462 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 3: those games were incredible. I mean, the fans were incredible, 463 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: the environment's incredible. But I think football is kind of 464 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: set up. You know, you start the school year, you know, 465 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: week one, the students are excited to be there. Everything 466 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: builds up during the week. You know, it's one time 467 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 3: of week, so everybody knows where to be on Friday night, 468 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: so all that sort of plays into it. And I 469 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: think that's you know, that helps football a lot because 470 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: of the nature of that, you know, And I feel 471 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: that myself, you know, even years removed from when I 472 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: was playing football. It's just it still feels like, you know, 473 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: this time of year, it's so fun to come back 474 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 3: and get the season started and everybody's looking forward to it. 475 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: So but yeah, I would, I would. You know, I 476 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: wouldn't argue that point. Definitely from the community standpoint, and 477 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: and also just a number of people involved on a 478 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: football team. You just have a lot more families, you know, 479 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: the band, parents, the you know, there's just a lot 480 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 3: more overall number of people involved on a Friday night 481 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: football game then then there would be in basketball, just 482 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 3: because of the sheer number of that. But but yeah, 483 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: I would not argue that. I think it's uh in 484 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: part because of the timing of the school year, like 485 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: I said, but also just the community aspect and the 486 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: once a week nature of it. And then you know, 487 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: if you're winning, you're going to keep building that throughout 488 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: the course of the year. And you know, some some 489 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: places will have their best gate tonight. I'm sure you 490 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: know it won't be the won't be that way the 491 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: rest of the season. But you know, you can't tell 492 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: me if if you go to the HC. Fishers game 493 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks and and it's just it's 494 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 3: an insane atmosphere. And there's a lot there's other games 495 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: like that, but it's it's, uh, you know, those nights 496 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: are special just to to kind of take all that 497 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 3: in and and see what that's like and and uh, 498 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 3: you know, but you know, like I said, there's there's 499 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: other games like that, but that one comes to mind, 500 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: especially based on what you just talked about. 501 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, last thing, Kyle, I do this every year, and 502 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: I put you on the spot. Every year. I always 503 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: try to pick one school, and in this school, I'll 504 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: try to over the course of the season, especially when 505 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: we talk, bring them up, give the kids some love. 506 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: But I always like to try to find one team 507 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: that whether it be that they're underfunded, maybe their enrollment 508 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: went down, maybe they've had just not a lot of 509 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: success at all in the last you know cycle of 510 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: the group that's on that's there now enrolled, but that 511 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: you look at and you go, this is like the 512 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: Disney movie here, because God love these guys. They're out 513 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: there working every single day and they're just not getting 514 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: perhaps the success or the love that people get at 515 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: other schools. But you know, they they deserve some props. 516 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: For the effort and for the diligence and for the 517 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: everyday grind. Give me three schools and I'll pick one 518 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: of the three. And I'm on board with him, and 519 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm vanwagging him this year. 520 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'll say as you mentioned that, I mean 521 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 3: Washington Continentals. I know they've got Ramon Stallings there as coach, 522 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: and they they they have had some success here recently, 523 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: maybe not the success we you know, kind of quantify 524 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: as you know, state championship type stuff, but I think 525 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: they would be one. Scott Hicks the ad over there, 526 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 3: and I know they're trying to build that program up 527 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 3: and he Stallings in his first year coaching. Nobody's been 528 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: there in the building, so you know, they would be 529 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: one to come to mind. Christmas Addicts has a really 530 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: good running back, Daryl Taylor, who's you know, the last 531 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: two years, I think over thirty five hundred yards rushing. 532 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: So you know, he's just an exciting player, really good 533 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: you know people you know, the Ponts who played against 534 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: him though, like he's the real deal. It'll be fun 535 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: to track what he does over the course of the 536 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: of the season. And then I would say Crystal House 537 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 3: which is Manual's old They play in Manuel's old building, 538 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: old stadium there, Rachaltz Field, and uh, they're a school 539 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: that's coming back from you know, didn't finish the season 540 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: out last year. So I know they're they're kind of rebuilding. 541 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: But I think those can maybe start with those three. 542 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: Uh do you happen to know off the top of 543 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: your head, Crystal Houses like mascot nickname, I mean, you. 544 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, they're the They're the Eagles. Now. 545 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Eagles, baby, I'm all in 546 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: on the Eagles. I played at Eastwood. We were undefeated 547 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: two years in a row. Beastwood Eagles. 548 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: Baby. 549 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: We called ourselves Beastwood because we were the Eastwood Eagles. 550 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: But I'm they're nothing but beast at Crystal House, I'm 551 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: all in. Fly high Eagles, Baby, fly Eagles. Fly there. 552 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: We go brush up each time you're on with me, 553 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: Kyle on Crystal House. That's what we're talking up this year. 554 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds good? 555 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Kyle Netrip, Indianapolistar. I appreciate the time. 556 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Enjoy the games tonight