1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Hey, question, what's that? 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 2: Rob? 3 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Have you ever walked into a meeting and said, pay 4 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: us what you owe us. 5 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't think I said it quite like that. I 6 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: think it was more like, is compensation negotiable? 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: You know, the w NBA is just phenomenal. We used 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: to call it as a Cubs fan as a kid, 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: we used to call it snatching defeat from the jaws 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: of victory. And that is what they keep doing over 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: and over and over again. And the fact that they 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: on a national stage had the audacity to wear these 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: shirts out to the All Star Game. Okay, so you 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: if you have not, you're not where we're talking about. 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: The WNBA Elsar game was here over the weekend and 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: obviously there was a bit of a I mean, it 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: seems like everybody who went had a great time. By 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: the way, the city appeared to be very safe. I 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: guess all you get to do is unleash every IMPD 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: officer and every available state policeman in a you know, 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: full force, maybe some people will behave themselves. And thankfully 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: that the city was appeared very safe, and that was 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: wonderful and great and great. Finally that happened. We'll see 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: how long that remains in full effect. But the WNBA 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: All Star Game was it was Saturday night, and these 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: players in a league that has while the exact extent 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: of the finances are not clearly known, it is leaked 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: out over the years of not only do they fail 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: to make a profit, they have lost a colossal amount 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: of money basically every single year collectively as a league, 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: that they are the charity case for the most part 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: of the NBA owners, through political correctness whatever, will not 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: allow women's basketball league to fail. And for the first time, 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: there is some enthusiasm, some energy about not even the league. 35 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the ratings when Caitlin Clark is 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: not involved in South there right. 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: It just keeps getting reported over and over that the 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: WNBA loses fifty million dollars every year and has never 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: generated a profit. And then you have these players come 40 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: out for the All Star weekend with T shirts that 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: say pay us what you owe. It does seem like 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: maybe they're unaware of what their bottom line says, they're 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: not reading their r. 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: Well, they don't care. They don't care. That's the point. 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: It's the entitlement and this is the major knock on 46 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: this league has been this is a group. Can you 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: imagine a business that went twenty five years without ever 48 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: turning a profit and then comes out to their clientele 49 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: or whoever, and it's like, you all better shut up 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: and pay because you're lucky, we're here. We joke about 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: how this the British Open was over the weekend. And 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: of course there's these live golfers, the Saudi funded golf 53 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: entity that hast up some of the biggest names in golf. 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: And these guys when they show up to these major 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: tournaments always have the. 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: Aura of a. 57 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: John Hughes's teen drama villain about them, like they're like, 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: what's Spader? James Spader? Like if James spa every character 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: James Spader ever played the eighties was a golfer, it'd 60 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: be the guys off live. Nobody knows them anymore. You 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: can't see them almost anywhere. It's impossible to find them. 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: But they show up to these golf tournaments like you're 63 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: lucky we're here and that we're participating in your tournament. 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: And that is the aura that these players had wearing 65 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: these shirts that said pay us what you owe us. 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: And the response from the Internet, not that the Internet 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: is real life but it just seemed like universally, people 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: are look at this going, if we pay you what 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: we owe you, you're gonna end up writing a check 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: back to the owners because you people have cost them 71 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars. 72 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: Well, the WNBA has experienced some significant growth, but this 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: is all due to the popularity of Caitland Clark. And 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're talking about pay us what 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: we I mean. She has all sorts of endorsements, but 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: as far as a rookie salary goes, no, it's not 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: very high compared to the NBA rookies. 78 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: But look at her endorsements, right, and by the way, 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: there's a collectively bargained deal, right, this is the unions deal. 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: You can't say, oh, poor Caitlin Clark when the union 81 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: has negotiated how this works. What have we said on 82 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: this program for a year now? She should just leave 83 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: the league, just go be the King in his court. 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: King in his Court was a famed softball pitcher in 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties and seventies who was able to throw 86 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: a ball that nobody could hit, and so that was 87 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the side show. He would go to various cities. He 88 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: would pitch against professional baseball players, et cetera. And he 89 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: would walk out there with a catcher a shortstop in 90 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: first basement and go good luck, and nobody could hit him. 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: And that was the attraction of ballparks. He was the 92 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: traveling side show, the traveling road show. She should do that, 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry. We always hear how great unions are. 94 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: We always hear how fabulous unions are. We always hear 95 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: how unions are the great equalizer. This is the deal 96 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: that the union negotiated. Okay, Caitlin Clark, this is what 97 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: you make. She makes tens of millions of dollars in endorsements, 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: So don't cry for her, Argentina. She's doing just fine. 99 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: And the rest of these women, they make what they 100 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: make because they don't make any money. 101 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: Right, would anybody be as interested in the league if 102 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: it weren't for Caitlin Clark. No, we know the answer 103 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: to that. It's absolutely not. She is the one who 104 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 2: is getting all of the attention. 105 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: And so when you come out on a national stage, 106 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: by the way, without the player there that everybody wants 107 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: to see, and you're your salvo to the world is 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: give us more money, not thanks. Fans watch us work 109 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: not you know, great, I'm just coming up with slogans 110 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. Anything that would endear 111 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: yourself to a national audience who might be seeing you 112 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: for the first time. 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. Nothing, No, it's just. 114 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: Simply give us more money. And so then of course 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: it feeds on the Internet, people finding these clips, even 116 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: in this game of basketball of. 117 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: The bricks being thrown up. 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, somebody said this on Twitter, and I forget 119 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: who it is. I would love to source the person, 120 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: but I can't remember. But the person on Twitter said, basically, 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: people go to sports because they want to see the 122 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: unbelievable that they can't imagine doing. That's what sports really 123 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: is all about. You can't dunk like Lebron James. You 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: can't throw a football like Patrick Mahomes. You can't hit 125 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: a baseball like Aaron Judge. 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: I can do an air ball trying to take a 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: layoup at people at the Guy Study. I can throw 128 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: a brick up. 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: You know, why did people pay to see Mike Tyson 130 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties. You knew the fight was gonna 131 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: last a minute twenty Some dude might die in a ring, right, 132 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: not literally, but you know what I'm saying, right you, 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: You paid to see the unbelievable. You give of your 134 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: money to see things that you can never accomplish on 135 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: your own. The average WNBA game. I'm sorry, and I'm 136 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: not trying to be mean by saying this, but since 137 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: they want to make it all about them, let's make 138 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: it all about them. You could go to your local 139 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: YMCA and see in Advanced rec League and they could 140 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: play the quality of basketball ninety percent of the WNBA plays. 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: There's a couple of players there that are outstanding, Caitlin 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: Clark being one of them. But people are going to go, 143 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: I can do that. People want to see her because 144 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: she does things they can't do exactly. 145 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: She's the one, right, I want to see her hit 146 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: three after three after three point. 147 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. 148 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: I can't do that. 149 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: She couldn't legitimately play with men consistently, but you kind 150 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: of believe maybe she could. You kind of believe, Hey, 151 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: this is the one that's different than all the rest. 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: And there's some audio out that they that they didn't 153 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: even consult with her about this, that one of the 154 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: players was saying that basically, do we have. 155 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, it's Kelsey plum. 156 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: She was. 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: She seemed to be dissent on Caitlin Clark. 158 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: That was a very powerful moment. We didn't, at least 159 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: as players, we didn't know that that was going to happen, 160 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: So I think it was kind of like a genuine surprise. 161 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: But the t shirt just united front was determined this 162 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: morning that we had a meeting for and uh, you know, 163 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: not to not to tattletale, but zero members of Team 164 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: Clark were. 165 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 2: Very present for that. 166 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: But no, we were just uh, we had a very 167 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: uh I really needed to be mentioned. 168 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to make a situation light, okay, but it's 169 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: the only one doing anything for this league and they 170 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: can't help them sell. 171 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: But she wore the shirt she did, so she doesn't 172 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: see she keeps bending in need of these people who 173 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: hate her. So I'm done being sympathetic for her, and 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people over the weekend we're 175 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: done being sympathetic for her because she won't stand up 176 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: to it. I said from the beginning, what she needs 177 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: to be the villain of that league because people will 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: embrace her because they hate that league. Everybody knows what 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: that league is, everybody knows the real finances of that league. 180 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Everybody knows it's been a charity case. She's so much 181 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: bigger and so much better than that league. And what 182 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: I say from the beginning, I said she needs to 183 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: come in and be a villain in every city she 184 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: goes into because the people will eat it up because 185 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: she'll be the one person speaking and saying the truth. 186 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: Yep, she did put out a tweet over the weekend 187 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: she said, incredible weekend in Indy. Our organization gave everything 188 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: to make this the best WMDA All Star weekend yet 189 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: and it delivered in every way. Grateful to call this 190 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: city home and beyond thankful for the incredible fans who 191 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: brought the energy and made it special. 192 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: No, what you told me is it's about money. It's 193 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: not about growing the sport. It's not about bringing more 194 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: people in. It's not about inclusiveness. You had every opportunity 195 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: to do that, and your statement of the world was 196 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: we deserve more money. 197 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: Give us more money so we can play this game. 198 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: Just what a horrible, horrible They don't care that those 199 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: women are fine. See, the problem is we gotta get 200 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: to break The problem is they know that the NBA 201 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: will not allow league to fail. They know, no matter 202 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: what happens, because of political correctness, they will not allow 203 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: that league to fail. So they can do or say 204 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: whatever they want to do and there will be no 205 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: reper It's the same thing about the when those players 206 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty twenty twenty one, even before that, 207 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: when they were kneeling during the anthem, they knew, no 208 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: matter what they did all in various leagues, the owners 209 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: would not have the kohones to stand up to them. 210 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: So they're like, well, just do it. We'll endear ourselves 211 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: to a very small group of people. We'll get nice publicity, 212 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: nice things written about us. Who cares who we alienate? 213 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Who cares who we piss off? Who cares the regular 214 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: people who just want to see us do our thing. 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: We don't care about them because we're about us. And 216 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: that's what they did over the weekend. 217 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: It is kendall in case it's ninety three WIBC. 218 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so I'm so torn on this about whether 219 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: I say good job or not, because what I'm saying 220 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: good job about is the bare minimum. 221 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: It's thank you for doing your job. No, that's not right, 222 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: thank you for the youth for not coming downtown and 223 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: being violent, creating havoc. Maybe that's who you should be thanking. Hey, 224 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: thank you for not breaking the law. 225 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean yes, thank you to And we always say 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: this to all of our policemen, whether you're an IMPD 227 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: or a state police person, or anybody who helped out 228 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: over the weekend, or even people like Abdul who every 229 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: year during the Black Expo mans the door at some 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: prominent place in a you know, order to try to 231 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: be visual and keep the peace and everything else. Thank 232 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: you to all those people who did the Reverend Charles Harrison, 233 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, all those people at the Ten Point Coalition, 234 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: thank you for that. But this is where we're at 235 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: in our society. We're at a point in our society 236 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: where hey, nobody got blown away over the weekend. Great weekend, 237 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: And we've so normalized bad behavior. We've done it at 238 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: all levels. 239 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: Right. 240 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, and I'd look at the 241 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: template and I knew we're gonna get to this. We've 242 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: so normalized bad behavior, we've so normalized bad guys behaving 243 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: badly that we do some sort of victory lap and 244 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: it's like we should thank them for simply not behaving badly. 245 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: For a weekend. Everybody knows this isn't going to last 246 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: because you can't every weekend take every available officer and 247 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: stick them in the greater downtown area. 248 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: So what happens this coming weekend, right when there's not 249 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: the WNBA All Star Game or the Indiana Black Expo. 250 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: We know the homeless camps will be back. They already are. 251 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: We've seen the footage of that. They're coming back. We 252 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: know the criminals might have retreated for the weekend because 253 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: they knew the would be an advanced presence in your 254 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: odds of getting away with something was going to be smaller, 255 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: and certainly with that w NBA All Star Game. It's 256 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: just like San Francisco with Gavin Newsom when when they 257 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: cleaned up, what was the big event they had out there? Yes, 258 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: there was some world some communist or something. There wasn't it. 259 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: Was that? 260 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: No, it was the Chinese guy, wouldn't it? That wasn't 261 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: it the you're right, and they cleaned up San Francisco, 262 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: And this is not going to last. But we've reached 263 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: a point in our society because people have we have 264 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: allowed this to happen, that bad behavior, red flag behavior, 265 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: people doing things that the normal person looks at and goes, 266 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: that's wrong. We just let them get away with it, 267 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: to the point where when it doesn't happen, we go, hey, 268 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: great job everyone. No one got blown away in the 269 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: downtown or the greatest economic driver of the entire state, 270 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: that's what the great the one mile downtown areas, it 271 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: is the economic driver for the entire state, the greatest 272 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: economic driver in the entire state of Indiana, from Fort 273 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Wayne to Evansville, to Gary to Jeffersonville. Shouldn't that be 274 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: the norm when violence happens in downtown. Shouldn't we say 275 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: that's totally unacceptable and we'll never allow it to happen again. 276 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: But one weekend it doesn't, we go, hey, great everyone. 277 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: Yep. So no curfew violations were reported, no children were 278 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: brought to the city safe and secure location. Chief Bailey 279 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: he thinked the parents, guardians, family members, and community partners, 280 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: and he highlighted the effort as an example of positive 281 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: community collaboration. It's also an example of the willingness to 282 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: enforce existing laws. 283 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but you get the government you deserve. You 284 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: get the government you deserve at every level. And it's 285 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: so heartbreaking because this country became a thing based on 286 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: people willing to raise their hand and stand up and 287 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: say I will give everything because this is unacceptable. Think 288 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: about the course of this country. Casey from the inception, 289 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: in which a bunch of farmers took down the greatest 290 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: army in the world, and the people who spearheaded the effort, 291 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: most of them lost everything, their families, their fortunes, in 292 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: some cases their lives, many cases their lives. I'm not 293 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: talking about the rank of vile people who had nothing 294 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: to lose. I'm talking about the tippy top people who 295 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: are living lives of luxury. Look at the Civil War. 296 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: We're literally brother was willing to fight brother over what 297 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: was right. That this is an accept and it was 298 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: going on for one hundred years and it will stop now. 299 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: And then you look at World War Two, look at 300 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: the great sacrifices at a normality on d Day, or 301 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: stirming the hill at Ewojima. Those people knew what they 302 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: were getting into, but they said, good people have to 303 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: stand up against tyranny, Good people have to stand up 304 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: against oppression, good people have to stand up against criminals. 305 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: And it's now, it's not on some foreign shore, it's 306 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: not fighting some other Army. These people are in our backyard. 307 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: They come in all our front yard. Yes, they don't 308 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: hide it, they just do it because they get away 309 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: with it. And we have normalized this is a society apathy. 310 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: We've become so apathetic that we have normalized this behavior 311 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: as a society to the point where when one weekend 312 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: and it only didn't happen one weekend because we put 313 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: the full force of the State Police and the Indianapolis 314 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: Micropolitan Police Department. 315 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: Maybe and maybe that's the key. The Indiana State Police 316 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: make it really clear that they're going to be present 317 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: every weekend. 318 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: They can't be there. There's not there's you may have 319 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: heard the state's finances are in a bit of trouble. 320 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: Case you can't do this every weekend, and the bad 321 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: guys know it, so they'll go away. They'll come back 322 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: when the coast is clear. Indianapolis will remain a disgusting, 323 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: rotting hell hole that is overrun with vagrants and homeless 324 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: and panhandlers and dangerous violent criminals, and that we'll be 325 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: back to the status quo. 326 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: Certainly, hope not. You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It 327 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: is ninety three WIBC. 328 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: A question, what's that At this point, is there anything 329 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: you could learn about your government and the people in 330 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: it that would surprise you? 331 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: No, or that I wouldn't question. 332 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, at this point everything, things that twenty five years 333 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: ago were just deemed out and out just crazy conspiracies. 334 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't think much of it seems too far out 335 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: there no anymore. What we have seen on full display, 336 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean really the past ten years. But let's just 337 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: for the sake of brevity, let's narrow it down to 338 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: the past five years. The COVID, the stuff we learn, 339 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: things that have come out, things that are clearly still 340 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: being hidden, and then just move forward. Because if you 341 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: think about how they altered, they being the world order, 342 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: altered society from twenty twenty on. And look at where 343 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: we are at in this country, in this world today, 344 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: and how your buying power has been deluded, the growth 345 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: and power of government, the stranglehold that they have taken 346 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: on your finances. Just look at the taxes on your 347 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: proper pretty here in the state of Indiana, and how 348 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: COVID itself and the magical money printing factory being turned 349 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: on an interest rates being cut to next to nothing. 350 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: How that drove up the price of property, which has 351 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: not been undone which continues to go forward, and then 352 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: what that has done to your just that one issue. 353 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: Then we can do the price of food. We can 354 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: do the price of gas, we can do the price 355 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: of everything. Everybody got out better except for you. Mega 356 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: corps doing fine, the tippy top, the billionaires doing great, 357 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: government's doing awesome. Who's doing horrible? You are doing horrible. 358 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: You're the one who keeps getting screwed. Look At how 359 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: that led to the election of Joe Biden, and look 360 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: at what that brought about in terms of a flood 361 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: of people into this country, both legally and illegally. Look 362 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: At how that changed the landscape. Look at when you 363 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: look around your communities, how they're looking, how they're changing 364 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: the flood of these HB one workers coming in this country. 365 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: Look at who's getting rich, look at who's moving forward. 366 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: We are having this conversation, and it's not a Democrat 367 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: or Republican conversation. It's a US versus them conversation. What 368 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: are we having in a Republican state right now? A 369 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: conversation about how these foreign companies are flooding foreign workers 370 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: in they're building these data centers. They're building these megabuildings 371 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: that are sucking all this power and you got. 372 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: To pay for it, right exactly, your utility rate is 373 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: going to go up because of them. 374 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: All of this to tell you that I don't think 375 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: there's anything you're going to learn at this point that 376 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: should surprise you. And it brings us to this thing 377 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: with Tulsa Gabbard and Obama. 378 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Tulsi Gabberd, Director of National Intelligence, she released 379 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: over one hundred classified documents on Friday, and they claim 380 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: to show overwhelming evidence of an Obama era conspiracy to 381 00:20:54,240 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: triggery Trump Russia collusion investigation. So she's calling the revelations history, 382 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: but it's not. 383 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: We already knew it. The Steele dossierate thing has been 384 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: totally disproven, totally made up, trum It's been proven. Now Trump, 385 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: how do he word it? They're tapping my wires. That's 386 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: such an old man way to like, that's not how 387 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: they do it anymore. 388 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: It's not a it's by it on his campaign. 389 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: It's not a nineteen seventies espionage movie. But right, we've 390 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: known for years that Obama was spying our government. Democrat 391 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: and Republican is run by people who hate you. 392 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: So the documents implicate not just Obama but also some 393 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: senior former senior officials like James Clapper, John Brennan, and 394 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: James Comey, which should surprise nobody. Also Susan Rice a 395 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: deep state. Yeah. And the thing is with these people, 396 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 2: they outlast presidents. They don't care, they'll just wait it out. 397 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: But bring it close to home. It's easy to say 398 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: Obama Obama, but of course, of course Obama, Yes, Obama, right, 399 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: but look at look at let's go to the president 400 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: before him, Bush, How could you have been that wrong 401 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? 402 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh? They weren't wrong, rob. 403 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: They just used it as an excuse a country that 404 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the with the nine to 405 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: eleven attack of all the people. Why didn't we go 406 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia? Those that's where the guys were from. Convenient? 407 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: We didn't go there. Next, where'd we go? Iraq? And who? 408 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: What happened? How much did we end up spending in Iraq? 409 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: Billions upon billions of dollars, enriching the tippy top industrial 410 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: military industrial complex. People, your friends, your neighbors, gave their lives. 411 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: You paid the tab everybody got out. Okay, bring it 412 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: close to home. Let's let's talk about right here in 413 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: your own backyard. Look at what we're learning about the 414 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: indian Economic Development Corporation, where that money's going, hundreds of 415 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: millions of dollars being taken from you and given to 416 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: the tippy top people paying for tickets to ball games, 417 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: going to these corporations and these individual Like what at 418 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: this point, how could you be surprised about anything? But 419 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: it comes back to how we started the show. Well, 420 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: we're just talking about with downtown Indianapolis. Then until the 421 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: people get mad enough to do something about it, they're 422 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: going to keep doing it in Washington, in Indianapolis, in 423 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: our state government, in the federal government. They're going to 424 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: keep doing this stuff because they don't believe you'll do 425 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: anything about it. 426 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: Telsea Gaber says she's going to be releasing more files 427 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: this week on the plot against Trump. 428 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: But there's no question in my mind that this intelligence 429 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: community assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained 430 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 3: a manufactured intelligence document, it's worse than even politicization of intelligence. 431 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: It was manufactured in diligence that sought to achieve President 432 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: Obama and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's 433 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: presidency and subverting the will of the American people. So yes, 434 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: next week, we will be releasing more detailed information about 435 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: how exactly this took place and the extent to which 436 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 3: this information was sought to be hidden from the American people, 437 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: hidden from officials who would be in a position to 438 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 3: do something about it. 439 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: So President Trump retweeting that and amplifying Tulcy's voice even more, 440 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: it's almost like he's baiting Barack Obama to comment on it. 441 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: But so what king a fight. 442 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: Nothing's going to happen to Obama, just like nothing happened 443 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: to Biden. The Republicans had full control. They did nothing. 444 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: Nobody fears any repercussion. Nobody fears any repercussion at the 445 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: federal level, nobody fears any repercussion at the state level, 446 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: and for the most part, they don't even fear repercussion 447 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: at the local level. I'm sorry, right, this is the 448 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: reality of it. I've been around these people. I've spent 449 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: the past fifteen years of my life fully engrossed. I 450 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: remember this, and it's crazy the things you remember. My 451 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: old man spent twenty years of his life dealing with 452 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: the worst people imaginable, like the most dangerous, violent people 453 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: who were still, for whatever reason, allowed to re enter society. 454 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: And many of them he had them re exit society 455 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: right because they were still dangerous and violent. And so 456 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: if anybody knew had a spot a criminal, it was 457 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: my old man. And I remember when I told him 458 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: the day Tildien I was going to run for public office, 459 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: he goes, you better be ready because the people you're 460 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: dealing with there are worse than the people I dealt 461 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: with every day. They just do it with suits instead 462 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: of guns, and they use the system yep to keep 463 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: themselves out of prison. And they're smart enough and shady enough, 464 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: unlike the people I dealt with. They're not stupid enough. 465 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: Most times get caught because us putting all the dots 466 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: together and figuring out how it all works. That's a big, 467 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: old complex thing to do. And I remember really laughing 468 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: at that when he said that, because I knew the 469 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: people he used to deal with. And now fifteen years 470 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: later I look at it and I say, he was right. 471 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: It's the same people, except these guys room free and 472 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: these guys are behind bars. 473 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: It's just a different weapon. 474 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: That's all absolutely and in a weird way, these people 475 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: are worse because at least the criminals, you catch them, 476 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: you throw them in the pokey. They're removed from decent society. 477 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: These people, they get to tell you what to do, 478 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: they get to lord over you, they get to take 479 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: from you, they get to abuse you every single day, 480 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: and we just sit there and go, well, maybe if 481 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: we elect somebody else, it'll be different. 482 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: This time you're listening to Kennelly Casey. It is ninety 483 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: three wibc Okay, can you actually be. 484 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: Too good at something? And can arm cannot harm the 485 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: thing that you do so much winning? 486 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 2: Is that what you mean? 487 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: I just I was pondering this over the weekend. So 488 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: everybody knows I'm It's Kenling Casey show, I'm Rob that's Casey, 489 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: and everybody knows I'm a massive golf fan. And Scottie Scheffler, 490 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: who is who is the best golfer since Tiger Woods. 491 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: He is dominating the game of golf like no person 492 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: has since Tiger Woods. Won the British Open over the 493 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: weekend and he ran away with the tournament. It was 494 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: never in any doubt and he's he is Tiger level 495 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: because of what Tiger used to do. Like, if you 496 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: would look at many of the scores of a tournament 497 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: Tiger was in, there would be Tiger's final score, and 498 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: then there would be everybody else who had this great 499 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: tournament behind him. So he'd be like five shots ahead 500 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: of everybody else, and there's this super tight you know, 501 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: five guys within one shot of each other behind Tiger Woods. 502 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: But because he was winning by so much, it made 503 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: it oftentimes not interesting to watch. And now we are 504 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: here again with Scotti Scheffler because he's doing the same thing. However, 505 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: unlike Tiger, Tiger had a life force about him that 506 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to see it because he was entertaining. He 507 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: was a draw, he would do things, and part of 508 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: it I think was because he was black and a 509 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: sport that had been dominated by whites for so many years. 510 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: I think he sort of became like the citizen of 511 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: the world type of thing. He opened the game up 512 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: to so many new people. Scotty Scheffler and I don't. 513 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal human being. He's a great dad, he's 514 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: a great Christian man. He gives this we played it 515 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: last week, this thing where he's like golf is just 516 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: sort of a distant second to me. That's not what 517 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: life is about. That's all wonderful. So he's boring. He's 518 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: boring to watch. You're never gonna see him snap a club, 519 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: You're never gonna see him get into it with the fan. 520 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: You're never gonna see him pull a John day Alien, 521 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: hit nine balls in the water, walk off the course, 522 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: and unlike Tiger, he very rarely ever hits a bad shot. 523 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: Part of Tiger's charm was he did some horrible shot, 524 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: but he'd make it up, and then he'd make it 525 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: up and go, how the heck did he do that? 526 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: Well? We talked about this when the Pacers were in 527 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Would you rather have a close game that's 528 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: a nail bier or would you rather have a runaway? 529 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 530 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 2: And I was saying I'd rather have a nail bier, 531 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: that's some more entertaining, and you were saying, no, I'd 532 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: rather have the runaway so I can relax and just enjoy. 533 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: You had that with Scotty Scheffler, only if. 534 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: You bet on him. Though it's not your team. We're 535 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: not talking about the Pacers here. 536 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: You should have known Scheffler here, so This is my. 537 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: Question is can somebody be so good at something that 538 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: it's no longer interesting to watch? Like, how do you 539 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: explain to somebody, Hey, historically you're seeing something that's that's rare, 540 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: fight air and great that you probably won't see ever again. 541 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: But how do you do the average person tell them, Hey, 542 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: twenty years from now, you're gonna really appreciate watching this, right, 543 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: But in the moment, it's just some guy lap in 544 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: the field. 545 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: But he makes it look easy. That's what it is 546 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: he does. 547 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: However, I will say this, and this is what's not 548 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: good for the sport, and golf has not had And 549 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: it's sort of the Caitlin Clark thing, right like Tiger Woods. 550 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: After the age of thirty two, he suffered a serious 551 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: leg injury and then a year later his wife allegedly 552 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: took like a six iron to the back of his 553 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: automobile and he was never the same ever again, and 554 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: golf has never recovered. You need drama in sport, you 555 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: need conflict in sport, you need an unknown in sport. 556 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm about as big a golf fan, I mean, compared 557 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: to there are people who are bigger golf fans than me. 558 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: But compared to a regular person. I went to bed 559 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: the final two hours. My kid had gone down for 560 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: a nap, and I said, I have two options. I 561 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: can stay awake and watch this runway, or I can 562 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: get a rare two hours of sleep and two hours 563 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: of sleep. Won the day Casey. 564 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: Because it wasn't close. Well, now he only needs the 565 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: US Open victory to complete the career Grand Slam. I thought, 566 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: did you see the stats? You probably knew this already. 567 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: It's been all the PGA Tour guys that are winning 568 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: all the majors. None of the Live guys are. 569 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: Well. 570 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, the one was to Shamba won the US Open 571 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: last year, and I think Live is probably I know 572 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: it's got a big event coming up here in a 573 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: few months, but I think the long term sustainability of 574 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: Live is going out the window. They are basically saying 575 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of these older guys, they're not going to 576 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: renew these massive contracts. We've kind of tried this. Their 577 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: goal is to force a merger with the PGA Tour. 578 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen, but I just 579 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: like I struggle with this. This show is basically just 580 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: about me airing my life's struggles to tens of thousands 581 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: of people every day. I struggle with this because I 582 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: didn't appreciate Tiger as a kid because it was boring. 583 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: And every week he'd win, it was like, man, I 584 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: want to see somebody fight with this dude. I want 585 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: to see you know, I want to see the unknown 586 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: guy win. And then twenty years later, I'm like, man, 587 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: I should appreciate that more. And now here I am 588 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: at forty and Scotty Scheffler's doing the same thing, and 589 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I want to see somebody stick it 590 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: to this guy, which I hate because he's a really 591 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: good dude. And now twenty years when I was an 592 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: old man, mode be like, I should have appreciated that more. 593 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: Scotty Scheffler's son is the one who stole the show 594 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: and offered up all the entertainment. 595 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Every time I see that kid, he has a one 596 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: year old son who comes. They run out on the 597 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: course every time he wins a tournament, and I'm like, 598 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: I think, is it make me a bad person? I'm like, 599 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: how much is that kid gonna inherit? And then I 600 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: inevitably look at Olivia and say sorry for your middle 601 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: class existence. Wish daddy had had more talent. 602 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: Well, maybe you need to start her early on the 603 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: golf course. She can make her own money. Be that, Dad, 604 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: You should have been better. You're listening to Kennel and Casey. 605 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: It is ninety three WIBC.