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Speaker 1: Why from Vall, Heartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 3: It's been interesting to see how the mainstream media has

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Speaker 3: either refused to cover this story at all. The headlines

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Speaker 3: Times and others in the days following this release have

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Speaker 3: it's interesting to see how when they do cover this,

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Speaker 3: they don't actually cover the revelations that these intelligence reports

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Speaker 3: and the evidence that we released actually conveys to the

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Speaker 3: American people. They simply talk about their criticisms of it

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Speaker 3: or convey Democrat politicians criticisms of it, but none of

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Speaker 3: them actually dealing with the truth that has been revealed.

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Speaker 1: That is an accurate statement from Director of National Tells

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Speaker 1: Jince Telsea Gabbert, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

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Speaker 1: be with you. Find everything I do over at tonykatz

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Speaker 1: dot com. I wish you would be a supporter over there.

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Speaker 1: I'd appreciate it. I am not sold on Gabbard as

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Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence, and I think that the concerns

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Speaker 1: with the President regarding her her past intel conversations regarding.

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Speaker 2: Syria were worthy concerns.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any doubt that what has

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Speaker 1: been released here, what has been shown here, if not

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Speaker 1: entirely new information, is certainly seen as new information by

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Speaker 1: millions of Americans who had this information.

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Speaker 2: Suppressed in the news channels they were watching.

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Speaker 1: So I see tremendous value in what has been released. However,

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Speaker 1: I think it is disingenuous to say that there isn't

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Speaker 1: new information there clearly is. There is more specificity going on,

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Speaker 1: there's quotes going on, There's connection pieces that are happening

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Speaker 1: here that really do require a whole new level of Look,

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Speaker 1: there is no doubt in the rational mind that Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama assembled his team of absolute horrific sycophants to do

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Speaker 1: bad things to the nation. There's no doubt in my

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Speaker 1: and try and thwart his presidency. Well, let's redo intelligence assessments.

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Speaker 1: Let's rethink what it is the intelligence community's putting out there,

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Speaker 1: let's put it out here, let's feed it to our

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Speaker 1: media friends, and then let's get that cycle repeating and

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Speaker 1: repeating to make his life impossible four years to come.

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Speaker 1: That's what they did. That's who they are. They are

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Speaker 1: this level of duplicitous and dangerous. In the same way,

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Speaker 1: they said Hunter Biden's laptop Russian disinformation, and they all

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Speaker 2: Never once investigated.

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Speaker 1: The only people investigated were the New York Post when

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Speaker 1: they put up the story look at Hunter Biden's Laptop

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Speaker 1: from Hell, and everybody else said nope. So Gabbert's point

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Speaker 1: there is the one that cannot be challenged because it

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Speaker 1: is so perfectly spot on. The media does not report

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Speaker 1: about the story. They're reporting about progressive reaction, their friend's reaction,

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Speaker 1: their buddy's reaction, their pal's reaction, their fellow traveler's reaction,

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Speaker 1: their money's reaction.

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Speaker 2: Because, after all.

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Speaker 1: If the Democrats say, oh, so and so isn't helping us,

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean we're gonna play that part of

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Speaker 2: the game. Let's play the game all the way down

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Speaker 1: And if you don't think it's money, then absolutely it's

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Speaker 1: Reporting is here is what they're saying, and here's the

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Speaker 1: and their duplicitousness there without scandal, horsecrap. The Obama administration

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Speaker 1: Keep it here, guys, This is Tony Katz today. I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to think that the protest is just for show,

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Speaker 2: And President Trump.

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Speaker 1: A trade deal that has the Europeans paying a fifteen

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Speaker 2: Well is it? And is this.

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Speaker 1: Deal better than we think? Or does this deal have

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Speaker 1: good to be.

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Speaker 2: With you, EJ.

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Speaker 1: And Tony joins me right now from the Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 1: He is there a chief economist Heritage dot Org EJ.

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Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch about this deal that confuses. There's

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Speaker 1: us start with the most obvious. We are going to

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Speaker 4: I think it comes about by the fact that all

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Speaker 4: if we do get into some kind of all out

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Speaker 4: the same as we've said before, and Europe would lose

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Speaker 4: much more than we would hear in the United States. Specifically,

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Speaker 4: the larger economies like Germany for example, would really really lose.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is, I think a lot of these

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Speaker 4: Trump told them back during his first term, which was,

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Speaker 4: you guys, can't be so dependent on Russian energy. This

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Speaker 4: so now that everyone has seen that that is exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Now that all these Europeans have seen they've been funding

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Speaker 4: certainly not this soon. The EU is probably the hardest

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Speaker 4: In large part because this is a post war order

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Speaker 4: This is a whole block of nations, and it's almost

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Speaker 1: Well, let's break it down to a bit of its

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Speaker 1: many ways. I'm certainly not a fan of the concept

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Speaker 1: before we get in to the energy conversation, which is

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Speaker 1: a large one, get's get back to the tariffs really quick.

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Speaker 1: What was happening with goods coming into the US, goods

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Speaker 2: What was taking place.

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Speaker 1: Before this that this deal might now rectify or in

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Speaker 4: Well, the biggest thing, Tony was not even just what

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Speaker 4: So by tearing those barriers down, you're essentially creating a

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Speaker 4: it means faster wage growth, at least in those specific industries.

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Speaker 4: So all of that is a really good thing. And

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Speaker 4: again it's an overturning of this post war order, something

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Speaker 4: rectifying a problem here, right, He is fixing this broken

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Speaker 2: Talking to EJ.

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Speaker 1: And Tony, chief economist at the Heritage Foundation, Heritage dot

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Speaker 1: org is where you find him. Now, let's get into

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Speaker 1: the energy conversation, because you're absolutely right. Trump said this

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Speaker 1: your going to give them the dollars. And this all

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Speaker 1: do we have this nuclear energy. Let's get rid of this,

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Speaker 2: They care about cheap energy. That's what they want. Now.

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Speaker 2: I happen to be a fan of nuclear energy. But

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Speaker 1: Here buying the energy the six hundred someha billion dollars, sorry,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of energy products.

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Speaker 1: This is the Europeans coming to the conclusion of, well,

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Speaker 2: A NATO fight.

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Speaker 4: But exactly, Tony, what we've seen over the last several

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Speaker 4: nothing short of an unmitigated disaster. And one of the

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Speaker 4: the whole EU has actually been contracting now for a

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Speaker 4: full three years, for thirty six months, So the idea

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Speaker 4: But on top of that, Europe has also been constricting

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Speaker 1: Ej Antni see if economists at the Heritage Foundation Heritage

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us,

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Speaker 2: morn to get you. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 5: Today, but we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: I think Iran is acting up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've been very nasty and we can't let that happen.

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Speaker 5: But we have other countries too, We do have and

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Speaker 1: And I say it all well, there's no doubt that

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Speaker 2: There. Maybe not on everything.

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Speaker 1: But there there is no daylight between anybody who voted

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, good.

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Speaker 2: To be with you.

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Speaker 1: Find everything going on over at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 1: The president of course in Scotland and he's been at

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Speaker 7: then you're asking these same group of people to suddenly

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Speaker 7: trust that this was all on the up and up.

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Speaker 7: There is no list, that everything is as it appears,

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Speaker 7: and they're just not.

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Speaker 2: Going to buy it.

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Speaker 7: And what's always interesting to me is, like what it

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Speaker 7: takes people to get off the Trump train.

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Speaker 2: It's not the.

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Speaker 7: Xenophobia, it's not the racism, it's not the bigestry.

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Speaker 2: It is this How wrong could she be right?

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Speaker 1: The argument of we want the information, the argument of

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Speaker 1: we're not about to trust government just because we're told to.

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Speaker 1: That isn't what we do. We're already having that conversation.

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Speaker 1: She's three weeks behind the eight ball on that one.

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Speaker 1: But then she says, and these people are xenophobes and

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Speaker 1: haters and bigots anyway, so what does it matter. It's

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Speaker 1: not the xenophobia, it's not the racism, it's not the bigotry. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: we're not Democrats, so I don't know who you're talking

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Speaker 1: to here, But this is a great example about how

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Speaker 1: they don't have a conversation. They cannot keep any level

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Speaker 1: of control. They don't know how to control their own emotions.

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Speaker 1: They're not able to engage a conversation outward that actually

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Speaker 1: grabs anybody. This is pseudo intellectualism. And I'm starting to

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Speaker 1: find that pseudo intellectualism comes from the line it's always interesting.

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Speaker 2: I find it interesting.

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Speaker 1: Now I've seen people do this on the political right

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Speaker 1: as well, and maybe it's the wrong term is pseudo intellectualism,

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Speaker 1: and the right term is it's not interesting.

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Speaker 2: I always find it amusing, we find it interesting. No,

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Speaker 2: you don't stop using the crutch. Here's the problem with

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Speaker 2: those absolute losers.

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Speaker 1: Here why this guy's wrong, Here's why this guy is right.

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Speaker 1: Here's why this guy's an idiot. Here's why this guy

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Speaker 1: somebody you should pay attention to that just speak directly,

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Speaker 1: good lord, but Jamil Hill has no connection to where

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Speaker 1: the Trump voter is, no connection to where the Trump

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Speaker 1: voter exists, and wants to say that the Trump voter

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Speaker 1: is a xenophobe and the Trump voter is a racist.

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Speaker 2: Oh, to hell with Jamel Hill. Why what?

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is why we don't pay attention to you,

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Speaker 1: and this is certainly where we're not going to have

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Speaker 1: some listening lesson from you. Well, she's really bringing about

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Speaker 1: a valuable commentary. Her commentary is three weeks old. And

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Speaker 1: then her commentary is, Oh, don't forget I'm a real

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Speaker 1: Democrat because I called Trump supporters racists.

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Speaker 8: Off.

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Speaker 2: Now, you've never heard that one before. Ooh, I'm so tough.

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Speaker 1: Enter Harry Enton, who's also on the panel there on CNN.

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Speaker 1: He is their numbers guy, he's their kornacky from NBC.

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Speaker 1: And I think Edton's good. I think Edton's good because

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Speaker 1: I think he brings the numbers solid. He says, look

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Speaker 1: at this, here's what it's happening, Here's what it means.

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Speaker 1: You might not like it, but here it is.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that all we want?

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Speaker 1: Isn't that all we ever will? Here are the numbers,

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Speaker 1: and here what the numbers mean? And even if we

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Speaker 1: disagree about what the numbers mean, at least here are

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Speaker 1: the numbers. It's not getting fudged. So Jamel Hill finishes up,

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Speaker 1: and then Harry Enton is just like, you don't you

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Speaker 1: do not know what you are talking about.

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Speaker 7: Me. I think this is the part of what Trump

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Speaker 7: you're talking about, because I think that they really don't

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Speaker 7: want to be off the Trump train.

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Speaker 2: They want to be on the Trump train.

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Speaker 7: They just want Trump to get in line with them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's exactly right.

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Speaker 9: Happy. Look, I think for Trump it does feel a

506
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Speaker 9: little bit like the Lady Doth protests to protest a

507
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Speaker 9: little too.

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Speaker 2: Much, right, But when it comes to its approval.

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Speaker 9: Rating with Republicans, it's basically as solid as it ever was.

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Speaker 9: As you know, you put it up on the graphic

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Speaker 9: before where you saw the smallest the climb was among

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Speaker 9: Republicans if you look at the average polls as approvarating

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Speaker 9: with Republicans still at.

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Speaker 2: About ninety percent. Of course, those same.

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Speaker 9: Republicans say they are dissatisfied with the amount of information

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Speaker 9: that's been released so far. Everyone is dissatisfied with the

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Speaker 9: amount of information that's been released so far.

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Speaker 2: With concern of the Epstein files.

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Speaker 9: Everyone thinks that there's something more going on there, but

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Speaker 9: then making that leap to all.

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Speaker 2: Of a sudden that his base is moving away.

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Speaker 9: From him, at least at this particular point in the

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Speaker 9: polling data, we're not seeing it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, accurate translation. Everything Jamel Hill just said isn't true.

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Speaker 1: Because everything she just said isn't true. And you know

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Speaker 1: who is on our side, Chris Matthews.

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Speaker 8: To be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump.

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Speaker 8: I mean these polls that come out and show him

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Speaker 8: not doing well, I don't buy that. I think strength,

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Speaker 8: his strength is still greater than the Democratic strength.

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Speaker 10: He is a stronger public figure then the people.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Obama still has tremendous charisma, but Trump has strengths,

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Speaker 8: and I think.

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Speaker 10: That's what all the voters look for.

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Speaker 8: But they wanted president who is a strong figure, and

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Speaker 8: he's got it and he can It's just there and

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Speaker 8: half the country buys it.

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Speaker 10: That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's absolutely correct that there is something to being

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Speaker 1: a strong figure. There is something to be having somebody

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Speaker 1: who uh you know, is a guy. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: a man as president. We're talking about a guy's guy. Here,

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Speaker 1: not a feat like Obama and not completely dilapidated in

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Speaker 1: the mind like Biden.

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Speaker 2: And we should be clear, Obama's an a feat guy.

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Speaker 1: He is. You want somebody who goes into a football

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Speaker 1: game and gets cheered, You want somebody who attends the

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Speaker 1: UFC fight.

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Speaker 2: These things do connect with the American people.

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Speaker 1: What did Obama talk about the freaking price of arugula?

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Speaker 1: It is a solid, solid observation from Matthews.

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Speaker 2: And if that.

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Speaker 8: Wasn't enough, we have never had a president so instantly

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Speaker 8: spontaneous that he knows this minute. If he gets at

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Speaker 8: four o'clock this afternoon, he will say, you know, that's

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Speaker 8: not really true anymore.

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Speaker 10: He will know the moon of the country he wants.

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Speaker 8: And I had to talk with him about Zoolander movies

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Speaker 8: events still a movie, and he said Zoolander one good time,

560
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Speaker 8: good timing, zue Lender two didn't work. I mean, he's instantaneous.

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Speaker 8: He knew how to put down Jeff Bush put down

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Speaker 8: all these guys.

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Speaker 4: He'd know his Secretary of State he put down at

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 10: That's right.

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Speaker 8: He's very good at knowing your condition, you're worries, your insecurities.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he'd be a great bully on at a

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Speaker 8: great school, Catholic high school or Greade school.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he'd be the scariest slowly because he knew

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Speaker 10: everybody's weakness. But he's really good at the moment.

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Speaker 8: I mean he he's out there watching television and keep

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Speaker 8: it up and is this the right thing to do

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Speaker 8: with what we're gonna do right now?

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Speaker 10: He said.

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Speaker 8: Biden couldn't do that in a million years, not a

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Speaker 8: millionaires Mindale couldn't do that. They don't have the connection

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Speaker 8: to the electricity of what's going on in the country culturally.

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Speaker 10: And he knows what works.

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Speaker 2: No Democrat does. Now.

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Speaker 1: Never mind the bully talk. I can point you to

581
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Speaker 1: one hundred Democrat bullies. Just remember Russia, Russia, Russia and

582
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Speaker 1: what Shift and Swawell.

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Speaker 2: Did, and I can point you to bullies.

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Speaker 1: But this idea being connected, there isn't a Democrat who

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Speaker 1: can do this because all of them are disconnected. They

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Speaker 1: got away from being the party of the people to

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Speaker 1: the extent they ever were, and they are the party

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Speaker 1: of the elitist and of the.

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Speaker 2: College faculty lounge.

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Speaker 1: That's who they are, not of the people by any

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Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 2: Go back to the conversation regarding UFC fights.

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Speaker 1: If Trump pulls it off and there's a UFC fight

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Speaker 1: on the White House lawn, come on.

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Speaker 2: That's insane. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: By the way, one thousand percent, there is something valuable

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Speaker 1: to being a guy, and there's something very valuable about masculinity,

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Speaker 1: and it's valuable to men, and it's valuable to women,

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Speaker 1: and it's valuable to children, and there's something super valuable

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Speaker 1: about not being ashamed of it. And the Democrats have

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Speaker 1: no one who can do that, absolutely no one. Now

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Speaker 1: I wasn't bringing this up to bring this up as

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Speaker 1: an idea of a conversation about masculinity, but if we

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Speaker 1: want to talk about Trump's popularity, that is very much

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Speaker 1: a part of it.

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Speaker 2: As to Epstein, as we've been talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Understand, I want the data, and understand I understand like

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Speaker 1: you do, and I think you do. We might disagree

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Speaker 1: about this. Trump made a mistake in how he handled Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Why are we talking about this guy, this

611
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Speaker 1: dead guy who cares.

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Speaker 2: It's it's all a hoax. We wanted the information, we

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Speaker 2: still want the information.

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Speaker 1: The President read the room wrong, and what makes it

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Speaker 1: a story is that he.

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Speaker 2: So rarely does that.

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Speaker 1: You heard this whole thing about from Chris Matthews kind

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Speaker 1: of it going back to Jeb Bush knows the insecurity

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Speaker 1: knows this and knows that knows how to pressure, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: He just got this one wrong and that's what made

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Speaker 1: it shocking because he rarely gets it wrong, but he did.

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Speaker 1: He got it wrong. So now it has to get fixed,

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Speaker 1: and right now I don't think it's getting fixed well enough.

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Speaker 1: And do I have some lame for Trump, Yes, I do,

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Speaker 1: more for Pam Bondy, But the idea that somehow this

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Speaker 1: is going to pull people away from Trump or Trump supporters.

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Speaker 2: All political left, keep trying that, keep trying, and keep

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Speaker 2: failing and try again.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you It's not like you're ever gonna learn.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today. Yes, I have seen the

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Speaker 1: video on the attack on two people in Cincinnati. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: I believe this man and this woman who were beaten,

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Speaker 1: this woman beaten unconscious was because they were white and

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Speaker 1: everybody hitting on them was black.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: If the roles were reversed, this would have been referred

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Speaker 1: to as a hate crime and a racial incident, and

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Speaker 1: this is that, and would get all the coverage in

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Speaker 1: the world Tony Katz Tony Katz today. Now, if you

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Speaker 1: know me at all, you know I don't believe in

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Speaker 1: hate crimes. Hate crimes are not real. It's all nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Crimes are crimes, that's it. I don't care about motivations

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Speaker 1: in that regard. I care that we find the people

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Speaker 1: guilty and we charge them, and I want everybody involved

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Speaker 1: with this charge.

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Speaker 2: I want them found guilty and I want them to

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Speaker 2: spend the rest of their.

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Speaker 1: Lives in jail. The point to make is that just

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Speaker 1: because I personally have no time for the concept of

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Speaker 1: hate crimes, the country does talks about it all the time.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about it the way it is. This

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Speaker 1: was a hate crime. According to the people who believe

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Speaker 1: in hate crimes. These people were attacked because they were white.

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Speaker 1: This was a racial hate crime. This is bigotry and

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Speaker 1: racism of the worst order. And we should be adding

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Speaker 1: charges on charges on charges, and Al Sharpton should be

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Speaker 1: holding a march right now in Cincinnati to bring the

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Speaker 1: perpetrators to justice. And we should have fifty thousand people

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Speaker 1: walking down the street to Cincinnati, right in front of

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Speaker 1: the Great American Ballpark, right there eating their Greater's ice

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Speaker 1: cream and eating their Skyline chili, saying no justice, no peace,

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Speaker 1: and if that means you got to burn Cincinnati.

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Speaker 11: To the ground, well then I guess that's the way

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Speaker 11: it is, because that's the way it is everywhere else,

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Speaker 11: but not this, which tells you exactly how much bigotry

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Speaker 11: is really out there in our media and from those

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Speaker 11: who are fighting bigotry.

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Speaker 2: Feel the air quotes.

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Speaker 1: By the way, don't engage in any acts of violence Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: That's nuts. Find everything at tonycats dot com tomorrow. Everyone,

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Speaker 2: take care