1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: So Gavin Newsom had himself we'll get together yesterday, and 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: boy is that guy unhinged. It's Kennle and Casey Show 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: and Rob Jerry Lopez at Indy Spanglish on Twitter in 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: for Casey today. 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Kevin is here. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: So Gavin Newsom is the governor of California. He held 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: a big rally I guess you'd call it yesterday of 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: supporters in which he said he is going to push 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: California to redraw their maps in response to Texas and Jerry, 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with this. This is exactly what 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: we said was going to happen. It's tit for tat 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: and quite honestly, and we'll get to kind of the 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: nuts and bolts of this here in a second. If 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Newsom gets his way, California will probably end up gaining 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: more The Democrats end up gaining more seats out of 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Californian they were going to lose out of Texas. 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the just one hand to the other. 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: Now has an independent commission whose job it is to 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: draw congressional districts. 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: They supposedly are they bipartisan? 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure to some extent, But is anybody really Okay, 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about that for a second. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: You call it independent, but if you're not bipartisan, then 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: what's the matter. 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's anybody, but it's anybody really not partisan on anything. 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: Maps. But what does that even mean? Nonpartisan that exists? 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, is there anybody who doesn't have, in some 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: capacity on most things, some opinion on it. 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: Especially if you're involved in drawing congressional maps, you will 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: probably have an opinion and you lean some way. 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 2: If you are, yes, thank you. 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: You may not express it, you may not be vocal 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: about it, you may not be extreme about it by 34 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: societal standards, but. 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: You are if you're drawing congressional maps. Well it's a 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: great point. You are. 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: They don't just pick people off the street and go 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: would you. 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Like to draw the map? Yeah? 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: So, But by whatever standard California's decided to go with this, 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I believe it was actually voted on in some statewide 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: multiple times, in some statewide ballot initiative that California had 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: to establish and then further embolden this, and I believe 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: it was twenty eight, two thousand and eight, and twenty ten. 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: And the problem Newsom's going to have Politico has a 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: story out about this that says there was recently a 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Politico did a poll that showed by a two to 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: one margin, voters prefer keeping the independent commission in place. 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: So what Newsom's going to have to do is get 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: by a ballot initiative this November. They're going the voters 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: to overturn this commission. This commission is in charge. Carl, Carl, 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: come in here. Nobody knows California like Carl. Carl, come 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: in here. Explain this to us. No, no, no, you didn't 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: want anything bad. You want to be asked to commit 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: any sort of felonious actions. Carl is Tony's producer, Tony 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Kats Morning Show producer. 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: You lived in California for many years, right, I grew 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: up and was raised there. 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: Okay, can you explain how this independent commission who draws 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: the maps works there? 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: There's nothing independent in California. They're they're all Democrats. They 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: run all the institutions there. 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: So this but this. 64 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: Independent commission, how do they get This is what we 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: just said. We said, there's no way they picked somebody 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: who doesn't have some sort of political lean to be 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: a part of these commissions. 68 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: Of course, it's like when the Democrats saying, well, this 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 4: support is bipartisan, meaning they're all lefties. They're all lefties. 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: Any anything that's run in California as an institution is 71 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: run by lefties or. 72 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: They get you out of there, right yeah, okay, So 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: we were just commenting though that Newsom says he's going 74 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: to try to do this, not trying to be he 75 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: is going to do a ballot initiative in November in 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: which the people of California will have to override this 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: independently independent Commission and the districts they've come up with. 78 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: But political as a pole, saying by two to one 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: voters say keep the independent Commission in place, there are 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: maps in place, They're gonna they have a lot of 81 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: work to you. O. 82 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, there's two things here at play. First of all, 83 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: they don't require ID to vote in California, so I 84 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: would not be surprised is despite the pulling that somehow 85 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom gets his way in this election. Number two, 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 4: if by chance the election doesn't go Gavin Newsom's way, 87 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 4: he'll find a court that will say, no, we have 88 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: to do it because it's in our constitution to do it. 89 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 1: Why is California. So is it because all the common 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: sense people have left? 91 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: Is that why? People like me? 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 93 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean you you know you you as you said, 94 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: you spent your life there and then you left and 95 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: now you're here and we're all thankful for that. But like, 96 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: why is is it? Is it just all the common 97 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: sense people have left? 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: Is it? 99 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: Are there still literally that many illegal people voting? Like 100 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: what is going on in California? That causes them? People 101 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: can't look around at places like Los Angeles and go, 102 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: this seems to be going on although it happens here. 103 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: It happens here, Joe hawks that keeps winning elections? 104 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Why is it? 105 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: Well, a lot of smart thinking people have left the state, 106 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 4: So just a simple majority will beat the right leaning 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 4: people every single time. Every time the Californians have voted 108 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: for things that are right leaning, like I said, the 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 4: left will find a court that will then overturn it. 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: So people like us who are into politics that have said, 111 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: what's the point, let's get out of here. 112 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's good because California has these ballot isiaives 113 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: all the time because it's relatively easy to get by 114 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: ballot initiative standards. It's relatively easy to get something on 115 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: the ballot. And you're saying, there are instances where the 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: voters will approve a ballot initiative and then they'll get 117 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: a court to declare no, no, no, that was unconstituted. 118 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 119 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: So Prop one eighty seven, which was in the nineties, 120 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: was approved by California voters and Prop one eighty seven 121 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: said those that are here illegally are not entitled to 122 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: free stuff. And they found a court that said, no, 123 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: that's not constitutional because that's a federal issue. Californians can't 124 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 4: vote on it. So we basically were overturned on that. 125 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: And then Proposition eight, this is in California, this is 126 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: more recent history. In the two thousands. Proposition eight put 127 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: it in the constitution that the marriage is between a 128 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 4: man and a woman, and they found a court and 129 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: they overturned it. 130 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 1: So you're saying, it doesn't matter whether the voters reject 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: these this proposal. 132 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: It's going to get done regardless what he just said, 133 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: what's the point, what's the point of voting out there? 134 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: Well, you're thoroughly uplifting today, Carl, Carl the Downer. Yeah, 135 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: I knew if anybody would know about this it'd be you, Carl, 136 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. 137 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: So we gotta be careful though with Gavin Newsom, because 138 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: I think he is the front runner, in my opinion, 139 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: to be the Democratic nominee for presidential candidates. So he's 140 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 3: going to try to make as much noise as he 141 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: can to get out front. 142 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: I think. 143 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So Newsom did some sort of press gaggle after 144 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: this rally or whatever gonna call it that he had yesterday, 145 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: and he got totally unhinged on Trump and something about 146 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: someone sending him out hat that set him off. This 147 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: is your Democrat front runner right now, Gavin Newsom, take 148 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: a listen. 149 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 5: Wake up America. Wake up. You will not have a 150 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 5: country if he rigs this election. You will have a 151 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: president will be running for a third term. Mark my word. 152 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 5: I wasn't exaggerating when I said that I received in 153 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: the mail a Trump twenty twenty eight hat, one of 154 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: his biggest supporters. These guys are not screwing around. The 155 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 5: rules do not apply to him. The most corrupt president 156 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 5: in history. He doesn't believe in free enterprise, crony capitalism. 157 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 5: He is wrecking this country, wrecking the economy. He's a 158 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: lawless president. Wake up, America, wake up to what's going on. 159 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 1: He's up in arms that someone sent him a hat 160 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: in This is the governor of the state, the governor 161 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: of the largest state in the Union, and he's up 162 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: in arms. He's so like he's beside himself that someone 163 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: sent him a hat in the mail that said Trump 164 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight on it. 165 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: That's bootleg Bruce Wayne, otherwise known as Governor Newsom. I mean, 166 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: he wasn't that upset when when they had the COVID 167 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: shutdowns he was going out to dinner. 168 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: With his buddies. Yeah, that's a great point. He wasn't 169 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: that upset. 170 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: Where they shut down beauty saloons and Nancy Pelosi decided 171 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: to get her hair done. Still, like they always have 172 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: different rules. And I'm so tired of hearing about we're 173 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: gonna lose our country. The right and the left both 174 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: have to stop doing this, Like we're not gonna lose 175 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: our count Trup's not gonna run again, Like, get over it. 176 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: But to come out a grown man to complain that 177 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: somebody sent him a hat. 178 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: No, hey's speaking of illegals or in this case, people 179 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: illegally on lists, I guess she would say, or shouldn't 180 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: be on lists, or however you want to word this. 181 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump held some sort of Yesterday was the ninetieth 182 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: anniversary of Social Security and it's so long it's been around, 183 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: and Trump held some sort of thing in the white 184 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: in the in the Oval office. He's sitting down while 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: he's doing this, and listen to this one he could. 186 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: He claimed that there were twelve point four million people 187 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: in the Social Security database that are one hundred and 188 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: twenty years old. 189 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 6: Twelve point four million names listed in the Social Security 190 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 6: database that were over one hundred and twenty years of age, 191 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 6: meaning you were breaking records because I've never heard of 192 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 6: anybody at one hundred and twenty five. There were nearly 193 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty five thousand people listed who are 194 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 6: over one hundred and sixty years old and in some 195 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 6: cases getting payments. So somebody's getting those payments and we're 196 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 6: after that. 197 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: That's a lot of twelve point four millions on the lot. Yeah, 198 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: it's like, what is that. It's one thirtieth basically of 199 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: the country. 200 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: There's no way that's true. And I'm a trub guy, 201 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: but that's so ridiculous. There's no way that's true. 202 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: You don't think that there are twelve point four million 203 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: people in the database that are one hundred and twenty 204 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: years old. 205 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: Well, of course they're not real. 206 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: Of course they're not real. But do I think that 207 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: that actually exist? That would be crazy. How does that 208 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: slip through? 209 00:09:58,960 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: It's your federal government. 210 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: YEA checks it once on a hundred thousand people one 211 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty years old. We don't have the federal 212 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: government notification that says when it's one hundred, let's look 213 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: back at this person. 214 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: How do you think you get thirty? How do you think? 215 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: First of all, how do you think you get they're 216 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: the same people that have put US thirty seven trillion 217 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: dollars in debt to the same people that all of 218 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: these kids know exactly. 219 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: That's my point. 220 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm shocked that you can't believe that might be a 221 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: real thing, that they've made that big of a mistake. 222 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Is there anything the federal government would screw up that 223 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: you would go? I can't believe they screwed that up 224 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: that much. 225 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if at one hundred and sixty fo one 226 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: hundred thousand people these people have been getting they have died. 227 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: Now those people have died. If they've been getting them 228 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: for seventy years. Well, that's the I think what he 229 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: was saying is now, not all of these people have 230 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: been getting benefits or somebody under their name been getting benefits. 231 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: But that's what we're saying is there are people out 232 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 1: there that they are seeing who are getting those benefits 233 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: that are one hundred and sixty two right clearly, and 234 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: there's no one alive who's one hundred and sixty years old, 235 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: And thus, how does that happen because of incompetence of corruption? 236 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: How does any even happen so corruptions it's meaning Do 237 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: you think it's on the inside meaningful or do you 238 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: think these are just like illegal has a fake social 239 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: of a guy who died a long time ago. 240 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 241 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: That's a phenomenal question, Jerry, Like is if you've got 242 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: some person who is clearly one hundred who professes to 243 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: be one hundred and sixty years old, and there's clearly 244 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: no living person who's one hundred and sixty years old 245 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: who's using that social and you're and somebody, then somehow 246 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: those benefits are getting disseminated. 247 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: Is it? 248 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: Do we look to the outside, do we look to 249 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: the inside, or maybe you look to both. But the idea, 250 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: this is why, the idea that you can't reform SOULI 251 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: security is utterly ridiculous. The thing is running out of 252 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: money every year. It seems like they pull back another 253 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: year on when it's going to be out of money, 254 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: and these politicians just sit around, look at each other and. 255 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: Go, well, can't touch it. 256 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 257 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: Now they run articles like should you really retire? Should you? You? 258 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: And I are never retire? 259 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: And Kevin you just you should just better hope they 260 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: allow people to live by the time, Jayden is my retirement? Yeah, 261 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: your boy, it's kna a Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 262 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 4: Some people call me to those space. 263 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: Casts spanklish a question for you. It's the Kittle of 264 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: Casey Show and Rob Jerry Lopez in for Casey today. 265 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: keV is here. Have you ever. 266 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: Met someone off the Internet and then met them in 267 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: a in a dating capacity for real, like you originated 268 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: your entanglement or engagement? Sure, depending on how it went 269 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: with that person. 270 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: We got three kids? Well, very good. 271 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is I'm gonna show my age right here. 272 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: It's back in the day of Yahoo Chat, oh right, 273 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: with the like Andy Napolis chat room. I was Private 274 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: Lopez at Fort Lewis, Washington. I was probably at stage. Yeah, 275 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: I was twenty years old in the army, Private Lopez. 276 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: That is actually a good one. I'm gonna do it, 277 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: ibsu not Private Lopez, and yeah, I hit her with 278 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: the best pickup line of all time. Asl question mark 279 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: is basically age sex location. 280 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: Are you a girl? How old are you? And do 281 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: you live close to me? Okay? So you met this 282 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: person on the internet, and then we. 283 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: Dated, we got married later on had kids, and then 284 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: Jane's mom became your wife James mom. Yeah, okay, so 285 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: how what was the process you went by to verify 286 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: that was a real human? 287 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: There was no process back then. You weren't worried about 288 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,239 Speaker 3: a chatbot. Back then, you were just worried about getting catfished. 289 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 290 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, did you how long did you engage 291 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: in conversation with this person? 292 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 7: Sure? 293 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Okay, keV. In the modern era? Now, well you're you're 294 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: currently with someone, but you have been single in the 295 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: modern era, have you been on the dating application? 296 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: Now? Okay, very good. I refuse to do keV. 297 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: In the modern dating era, what is the process to 298 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: confirm someone is a real one to two things, One 299 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: that they're a real human being period, and then that 300 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: they are who they say they are. 301 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 8: Well, I think people usually have to take a selfie 302 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 8: for verification, so they get verified on the apps once 303 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 8: they take their selfie. But I don't know if that's 304 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 8: I don't think that's actually required. So there's a lot 305 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 8: of like bots. 306 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever been concer when you're talking to someone 307 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: or you're meeting someone that's not a real human that is. 308 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, but I can usually tell pretty quickly, Like usually 309 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 8: the pictures are off, like you can tell it's like 310 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 8: a screenshot. Oh they found at Yeah, we don't like 311 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 8: include something about their snapchat and the bio. Oh okay, 312 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 8: so there's obvious signs. 313 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to a person and then said 314 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: that or a someone and then figured out this appears 315 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: not to be a real Yeah. 316 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 8: I've started, I've started conversations, but then I yeah, it 317 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 8: didn't go on very long. 318 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: So it's pretty you should. 319 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Do you believe a normal person should be able to 320 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: figure out they're not conversing with the real person or 321 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: is it that good that it would be able to 322 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: you'd be able to snooker someone. 323 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 8: I think you'd have to be pretty naive to fall 324 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 8: for that. 325 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: Or old, perhaps lonely, lonely you don't want to know that. 326 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: There you go, that may be the big one. Okay. 327 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: So Reuters has an article about a seventy six year 328 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: old man who where was he from? He was from 329 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: New Uh? 330 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 7: Was he? 331 00:14:59,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 332 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: He was from New Jersey and he died while traveling 333 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: to New York City to meet someone who, it turns out, 334 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: was not a real person at all, but was a 335 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: what they call a chat bot. 336 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: Hey, keV, So we were talking about this yesterday. 337 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: I said, I want to create a fake person, a 338 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: fake girl, and I wanted to just be completely AI 339 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: and see if I can make money off clicks. Well, 340 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: apparently this is and that's what that is. It, that's 341 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: what that is. The person ever existed. It was just 342 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: a hot chick. Somebody used AI to create a person. 343 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. So this guy he was again, he was an 344 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: older person. 345 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: I think he had had some health issues, maybe some 346 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: mental issues. He just packed up his stuff left and 347 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: then they found him dead. Now believe it wasn't believe 348 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: he was murdered, but rather he like fell going to 349 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: try to meet this person somehow hit his head and 350 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: tragically passed away. But the point is this guy again older, 351 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: probably not great with technology, but this online chat Okay. 352 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: My question with the online chat bot is there's not 353 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: a person behind it, Like there's. 354 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: Not probably not, there's by some script right in the back. AI. 355 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, just get like a aichech conversation. 356 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would believe that. 357 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: So literally, now you can have a conversation with the 358 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: computer that's good enough that you don't even I mean, 359 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: if you're not hip to the game. 360 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: You can even do a voices these days where now 361 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: like have you ever got the robo call? And it 362 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: sounds a lot better than he say, yeah, yeah. 363 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: But I assume if they're trying to sell me something 364 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: or they're talking about a non existent thing that I 365 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: need to call about. 366 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: Your car warrantine. Yeah, yeah, you're right. 367 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: The uh it's always like I'm sure people get these 368 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: messages now. Thankfully most phone mechanisms will identify spam. 369 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: But they're smarter now now they use your local area 370 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: code to try to get around them. 371 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, and it'll always be like, hey, this 372 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: is Claude from the Business Services Unit. 373 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: Should probably go work for Diego Morales. 374 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Business Services Division check on the businesses with the what's 375 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: his face? And I'm calling about your warranty that expired 376 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: and I'm concerned about your business call me like they 377 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 1: act as though like that, they'll persent. I'm su everybody's 378 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: gotting these messages. They'll present it as a legitimate thing, 379 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: or unless you're kind of paying it, you'd be like, 380 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, even though the thing may not even exist. 381 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: But I guess there's enough people that they think it 382 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: would exist. But you're telling me those are also I 383 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: never paid an. 384 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably robo calls. They're not even humans. Like 385 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: the last good. 386 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: Human scammer was the Indian guy that called you about 387 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: your taxes. Yeah, right, Like outside of that, they're all 388 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: robots now, and they're only going to get better. They're 389 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 3: only going to get better. 390 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: Wow. So that's something like you know our parents who 391 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: are getting older. Sure, you know in the. 392 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: Next five ten years, are they gonna get scammed by 393 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: random calls? 394 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 2: Are they gonna do you even answer the phone if 395 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: you don't know who it is? I do you do? Yeah, 396 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: but I'll hang up in the first couple of seconds, So. 397 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: You get a random number. We'll call you and you'll 398 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: answer the phone. Yeah, why who would be calling you? 399 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. You seem we're gonna give you money? 400 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: Maybe keV. Do you ever answer the phone if you 401 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: don't know the number? 402 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, I do it sometimes. I'm curious. Is it for 403 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 8: an adventure? 404 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: But you know it's the good chances of call lette? 405 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 7: Baby. 406 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 2: I don't know who the another line are. 407 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: Are you that desperate for attention that you need a 408 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: robot or a scammery? 409 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: Gotta put me down, rup, But I'm just asking. At 410 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: least I wasn't even a medial math just got personal. 411 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: I mean, why would you not because I don't know. 412 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: I don't know who's calling, So I'll just pick it 413 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: up and if it's any kind of sales, I just 414 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: hang up. I'm not interested in anything, or I'll say, 415 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: you know, take me off your list or whatever. 416 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: But did they have the no call list? Is that 417 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 2: still thing? 418 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: Well? 419 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: I thought Roketo supposed to be on there. He's too 420 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: busy going after Notre Dame and Butler. He doesn't have 421 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: time to apparently force the no call thing. 422 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: I thought that was the thing. 423 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: Because it happens all the time. But okay, so this 424 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: is where I'm at. My phone completely crash. Let you 425 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: don't know this crash completely last week. This is a 426 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: brand new cell phone. I had no numbers, no contract. 427 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Oh no. Yeah. 428 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: So when I hosted Monday Night with Allison, I'm like, hey, 429 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: I need you to send me Rob's number. 430 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: Case he's no, I didn't have anybody. 431 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 3: Every person that texted me, I said, I don't want 432 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 3: to be rude, but like, who is this? 433 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Lost them all? 434 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, did you ever get that when you were 435 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: like dating someone that or you were like you had 436 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: engaged in some sort of social thing with them, and 437 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: then you tried to hit them up and then they 438 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: didn't know, and then you had dawn on you that 439 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: they had not put put your number in their phones, 440 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: so you weren't even important enough for them. 441 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: That's never happened to me. Yeah. 442 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: See this is and people know this. I tell people, 443 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: do not take this personally. I am uber lazy and 444 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: I do not people put numbers in my phone and 445 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm my brain is sharp enough that I can remember 446 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: numbers based on what they call it, the prefix. 447 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: What are the first three? The first three? Something? Like 448 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: I noticed people with. 449 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: The first three numbers, but then I'll do it in bulk, 450 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: like I'll be like, okay, I'm so far behind, this 451 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: person should be in there, and then I'll just do 452 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: like twenty numbers at the same time. 453 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: So I'm guilty of putting you in my phone as 454 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: your nickname. 455 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: Yeah you you told me that, and then I forget 456 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 2: who the heck you are. Yeah, you told me that, 457 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: like Dan Marinos in my was in my fat You 458 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: told me that. No clue who that. I can't believe 459 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: you both. You both do this. 460 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: You answer the phone when you know there's no logical reason, 461 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: like if somebody in. 462 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: The phone rang, that's the logical or I don't randomly 463 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: pick up my phone and say hello. 464 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: But if you know it's a ninety percent chance of 465 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: something that you're not gonna want to even deal with, 466 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: why would you subject yourself to that? 467 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: Well, if first of all this says scam, I don't 468 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 3: pick up this possible scam ever, I know, But who 469 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: would be calling you? 470 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 2: And if it's some important they would clearly. 471 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: Need the country needs me to go back overseas to 472 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: fight some special war. 473 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: Rob, I don't know, why is this such a big 474 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: deal to you who I talked to. That's fascinating. It's 475 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: fascinating to me that both of you. 476 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, are willing to You're an old man. The need 477 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: for adventure is so strong with the both of you. 478 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: Is that what it is we like to live day? 479 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: You're willing to subject yourselfing to something that you nite 480 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: know ninety percent is likely has no benefit to you whatsoever. 481 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: But there's a ten percent chance it could be life. JG. Wow, 482 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. 483 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: All right, we will We'll take a brickets and kettle 484 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: a Casey Show ninety three WUIBC. 485 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: It's kind of a Casey show. I'm wrong. keV is here, 486 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: fabulous producer stordinair Jerry Lopez is in for Casey. 487 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: You ever stop and ponder like do you have moments 488 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: in your life where you just are able to eliminate 489 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: what's going around you and just like just start viewing 490 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: the world like you know, like you're like you're viewing 491 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,239 Speaker 1: a television show or you're just watching what's going on, 492 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: and then you're processing what is actually happening, Like does 493 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: that even make sense for him? 494 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: Does I think? 495 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: I think for me to do that, I have to 496 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: make a conscious effort to do that. 497 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: It does. 498 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: It's not something I can do naturally because I usually 499 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: bring in my bias, my feelings, how I feel about 500 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 3: stuff you're you're talking about it. Can I take myself 501 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: to a thirty thousand foot view. 502 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: And yeah and just look and go, how did this? 503 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: How did this happen? 504 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: Because think about the things we've talked about today, about that, 505 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: what are the leading stories of our country and how 506 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: nuts some of it has actually gotten. Like, let's throw 507 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: out some numbers. We know we're thirty seven trillion dollars 508 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: in debt as a country. We know within the next 509 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: ten years, if the current things that are in place 510 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: continue to take place, it'll be fifty seven trillion dollars 511 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: of debt. We know that according to the President of 512 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: the United States, our government is so porous that allegedly 513 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: twelve point four million people are some of the Social 514 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: Security roles who claim to be one hundred and twenty 515 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: years old. Look at the major issue of our country 516 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: right now, which is states are fighting about how much 517 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: they can rig their electoral system to one of it 518 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: one up each other enough to score maybe one or 519 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: two seats in Congress. Look at the state of Indiana 520 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: and what the top issues of the government or the 521 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: top talked about issues are right now, in which our 522 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: leading stories are some statewide official who went to India 523 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: who can't tell a coherent story on who paid for 524 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: it or offer any proof that he paid the money back. 525 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: You sent him your check, right, you showed him your check. 526 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 6: No. 527 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: I offered too, and he wouldn't show me proof the 528 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: check that was it. Right, I'll show you my check. 529 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: You showed me the check that you paid back the 530 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: Diego Morales, the Secretary of State, when it goes on 531 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: this mysterious trip to India. 532 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: I had a conversation in which he. 533 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: Was like flailing and yelling and dry mouth at me 534 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: at the Clay Counting Lincoln Day dinner, and then trapped 535 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: in a corner, he finally voted it out. He would 536 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: show me proof he paid the money back if I 537 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: showed him my paycheck. 538 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, accept the offer. 539 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Well, logically I would need to see proof that whatever 540 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: check you wrote was cat since he's not going to 541 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: show me who he wrote it to. 542 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: He said, Oh, what's the point. Then that's the whole 543 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: point of the whole thing. Who paid for it? 544 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: Well, I was so desert to prove that he paid 545 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: like I was, so I just wanted to give him 546 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: any opportunity, like to save himself, right, I was, like, 547 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: I told him, He said, I don't even need to. 548 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: I'll let you black out who has written to But 549 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: I got to see the check was cashed, because what 550 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: good would that do anybody? And I gotta see the 551 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: receipts of what the check was for, because how do 552 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: we know what what you were fronted? And he was like, no, 553 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. So that's one of our state 554 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: white office holders. Another one of our state white office 555 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: holders is under serious investigation from a disciplinary commission that 556 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: oversees his law license, The Attorney General, Todd Roketa. He 557 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: may end up losing his law license because he can't 558 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: keep his fat yapper shut. And if he loses his 559 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: law license, he could not be the attorney general anymore. 560 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: That's at least what they did Curtis, Well. 561 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: Curtis lost his law license with reinstatements, so we got 562 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: to keep being the attorney general. 563 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: That's another state white office holder. 564 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: Then another one of our state white office holders shows 565 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: up accepting a lavish gift from a high profile, known 566 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: felon and can't tell a coherent story on how he 567 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: got there and what he. 568 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: Did and how he knew the guy. 569 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: And now that same state wide office holder can't tell 570 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: a coherent, consistent, or remotely plausible story on how he 571 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: cleared guys in his office of allegations of viewing and 572 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: sharing AI pornography in one weekend day. That's Micah beckwith 573 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: So the two, the three in the four fur four 574 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: out of top five. 575 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 3: This is the only price you haven't mentioned is Governor Brawn. Yeah, 576 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: and he's as b one. Yeah, he's a pathological liar. 577 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 3: Where he looked a thousand people in. 578 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: The face, literally a thousand people literally head lied right 579 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: to him. That's one, two, three, and four in our state. 580 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: You want to know why everything is crap. That's why. 581 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: That's the tipy top, that's the tip of the sphere. 582 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: Uno dos trace quatro I appreciate that. Yeah, Yeah, inclusivity. 583 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: Now, think about if. 584 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: You amplify or you take that and you extrapolate that 585 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: to the five hundred and thirty five, because you know 586 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of the five hundred and thirty five. 587 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: People that are in the United States Congress aren't any better? 588 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, yeah, then the four people I just 589 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: described to you. So there's your state leader, and you 590 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: have some that are worse. You have some that are 591 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: worse because those people out there much ever, are doing 592 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: the insider trading stuff and everything else. So there's your 593 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: five thirty five that are running the federal government. I 594 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: just laid out to you, Uno dos trace quattro that 595 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: are running the state government. You think many of these 596 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: mayors or city or town council people are any better. 597 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: Or people in the Statehouse or the people in the 598 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: state of Look at what we laid out with there. 599 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: You got some guy that what bohatchik blow a point 600 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: two eight three. 601 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: We're not going to mess with them untill after the 602 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: UH hide session a few months. Yeah, and then now. 603 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: Is like someone gets to keep his drive, keeps driving 604 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: a car and a driver's license. Oh and then the 605 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: other guy, Bo Baird, who he found out he got 606 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: a no W I what was that like seven years ago? 607 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: And magically, because uh of a variety of entry issues, 608 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: nobody finds out about. 609 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: It, unt least combly. In the state House. 610 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: You got Jim Lucas who drives drunk, blows through Jim 611 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: Lucas drives drunk, blows through a barricade, uh flees the scene, 612 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: manipulates the the story to the cops, lies to the cops, 613 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: nothing happened to him. No wonder our country's in the 614 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: position it's in. Who in actual positions of leadership do 615 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: you look at like the ability to do stuff, to 616 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: make choices, to make decisions like. 617 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 2: Not just have a vote, you're actually decided. Yeah, like 618 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: the big Boss. 619 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: There's not many dude that actually are doing the right 620 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: in the entire country that are that? Are you say? 621 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 3: Like Ron de Santis comes to mind. He's a good one, 622 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: you could say him. 623 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: But do you think, Okay, do you think if I 624 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: lived in Florida because I'm on the outside. 625 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: Don't have time to dig into the war? 626 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: Interworgans of Florida Government, do you think it would even 627 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: actually be all that much better? Like if I went 628 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: out there and I were doing the same show in Florida, 629 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: do you think I would be like, oh, rond de 630 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Santras is so great? Or do you think if we 631 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: actually did the digging? 632 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: So? I think he would have the same show, but 633 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 3: it would be there because it'd be the same thing 634 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: run by Republicans, and that's who you'd criticize, and people 635 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: don't like hearing that. 636 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: So it would be the same thing. 637 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: Because when Braun goes somewhere, he always talks about how 638 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: great Indiana is. That he talks about the Republican this 639 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: and the Republican that, and all the meat and nationalist. 640 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: Roads in the country. 641 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: That's what they said, number one roads in the country Indiana. 642 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: Like, do you think if I if I did the 643 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: Kendall and Casey show in Florida, I bet I would 644 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: have many of the same issues if I actually started 645 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: digging into it. 646 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: Well, that's because you're not scared to critique the home team. 647 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: So my point on all this is, do you ever 648 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: just stop and step back and go, what is going 649 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: on in our country? 650 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 6: Now? 651 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 3: It's too scary, Rob If you do that, I'd rather 652 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: just stay down here and get lost in the weeds. Brother, 653 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't wanna know. This is 654 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: the problem. Like, before I started coming in here, it 655 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: was like Wizard of Oz. You you opened the curtain, 656 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: you let me behind, and now I'm going, oh my god, 657 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 3: the building's on fire. But from the outside, You're like, 658 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: this is great, it's all Republicans were win all the elections. 659 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: Things are fine, there's no issues, red red red red, 660 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: red red red. 661 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: And then later on. 662 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh, I do wonder. There are 663 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: times where I'll have these moments and I do wonder, like, 664 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: how are people okay with this? 665 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: They're not, But like Carl said, people don't feel like 666 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 3: they have a choice. We showed up to a only 667 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: rally I've ever been to and he lied straight to 668 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: my face. You've had Micah look at you and buy 669 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: your own like, lie straight to your face. We're trying 670 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: to expect honesty from these people, and I hate to 671 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 3: say it, most politicians are just in it to get 672 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: re elected. 673 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so is it that they've recognized we can wear 674 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: you down to the point where if we don't care 675 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: if you know we're lying to you or deceiving you, 676 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: are letting you down, we know we can outlast you. 677 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: Because you don't have the stomach to stay in this fight. 678 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you'll get bored, You'll get. 679 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: If it wasn't for you, a lot of people would 680 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: have already been over the SB one thing, and yeah, 681 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: bron passed and the Mica thing nobody else is talking 682 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: about any of these other issues except for this radio station. Yeah, 683 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: and that's the problem, right, If this radio station stopped, 684 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: it's all go away. It's it's kind of like Governor 685 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: Broun fumbled, budd he fumbled in the first quarter. Yeah, 686 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: who's gonna remember that in the fourth quarter. 687 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: And that's what's so hard, is like people, I'm glad 688 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: we just sit at this little therapy session. 689 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 2: It's a Friday. 690 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: It's Friday, and it's just to and I got a 691 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: long day. Brother, I'm here tonight. Oh are you in 692 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: for ken It too? I will be downtown for twelve hours. 693 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: When you come in here, do you come in? Do 694 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 2: you come in mad? Like when you come in here, 695 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: you usually make me mad after a while. 696 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: Usually I'm so excited that in the first segment, I 697 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: see you go and I just let you go, and 698 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, all. 699 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: Right, here we go. 700 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like you're my DJ college, You're the 701 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: best hype man ever. 702 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I get you. I get you angered. Yeah, 703 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: you make me think about stuff I've been willing to ignore. 704 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's one of the biggest challenges, is 705 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: because like people, the people will say, well, you told 706 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: everybody to vote for Braun. 707 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: I did. I said, I thought I should vote for 708 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: Braun because he was gonna win anyway. 709 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: And I thought, well, if we engage, maybe we'll be 710 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: able to sheer force. By sheer force and magnitude of 711 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: like this radio station, we can will this guy who 712 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: I didn't like or care for anyway. 713 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: But it's like if people always. 714 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: Like you never say what you're for, See, you can't 715 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: win because on money, and people say, well, you're always 716 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: against everything and you never say what you're for. And 717 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: I said, all right, we'll give four a shot. I'm 718 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: for a property tax reform. This guy has a plan 719 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: or says he's serious about property tax reform. 720 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: I'll give it a shot. 721 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: And then go sideways, and people go, well, you told 722 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: us to vote for him, like as though I somehow. 723 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: Don't do this. 724 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna check it real quick, go ahead, And 725 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: is your saying at gun point, no, don't do that. 726 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: At gunpoint, force people to the polling location. 727 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: You convinced people after three hours a day, five days 728 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: a week, five six seven, eight months. People you are 729 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: you are? You are family to a lot of the 730 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: people that listen to you every day you don't me 731 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: and your family listen. I have to have members I hate, 732 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: so you might be one of them. But people trust 733 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: your opinion. So I think you opened up a lot 734 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: of eyes when they go, wow, they lied to Rob. 735 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is the point because people will still 736 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: say it. I still see it. You told us to 737 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: vote for. 738 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: Him, and it's like, okay, So on one hand, and this 739 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: is why I don't engage, and this is why I 740 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: don't tell you what you know. 741 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 742 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: There isn't much to be for it because you can't 743 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: trust it these people. And then I go out on 744 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: a limb and do it, and I don't think anybody disputes. 745 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: I could not have tried any harder. I didn't even 746 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: do it for my south. You almost got a job. 747 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 2: And do as you did, so well, I did it 748 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 2: for everybody else. And then it's like, well, you you 749 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: told to vote for this guy. So it's like, okay, 750 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 2: so are we just on it. 751 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,959 Speaker 1: We're just on the Kamakazi mission going forward because I'm 752 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: not ever again gonna have somebody pen something on me 753 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: for just trying to help you. That's and then you 754 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: look at the whole thing the whole, how massive this 755 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: thing is. And other than Andrew Ireland, who would you 756 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: count on in the state House. 757 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: Let's say you said the one name Haggard, not a 758 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: bad one. Haggard's been fine, but Ireland would come, That'd 759 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: be my one. 760 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: A yeah, And it's like, I just can't endorse people 761 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: anymore because I'm never gonna have people for trying to 762 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: do the right thing and help other people ever hold 763 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: some over my head again and. 764 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: Go, you told everybody vote for this guy. I did 765 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: even like the guy. 766 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: So so here's something though. Do you think Governor Brown 767 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: runs for a second term? And if he does, do 768 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: you think he wins or because I don't think that 769 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: they would primary him as the incumbent governor. I don't 770 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: think they would do that. As mad as people are, 771 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: I don't think the GOP would do that in a state. 772 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: Who who is a viable person to stop the Republican 773 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: machine in the state, Like, honestly, I mean, this. 774 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 3: Is what I've learned now. The governor, and I hate 775 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: to say, is meaningless. Well, the real party, the real 776 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: power is at the Stayhouse. Because they had the super majority, 777 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 3: they'll veto anything they want. Yeah, anything They want to. 778 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: But you're right from a technical standpoint, but the governor 779 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: is not meaningless in the sense of the bully pulpit 780 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: that comes with it. 781 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: And if you were to enter the. 782 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: Indiana State House saying we're not gonna win this overnight 783 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: and this is a four year plan and we are 784 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: going to have a drag down, knockout affair where we 785 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: need to have this, which is what Micah was supposed 786 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: to be. The whole premise of that guy was I'm 787 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: going to fight. I'm I'm gonna I'm going to do that. 788 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: But if you had somebody in there who said I'm 789 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: here for you. I'm not here for me, i am 790 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: here to expose to you what's going on, and then 791 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: you choose to do with that information whatever you will, 792 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: and we will fight together on this. For those of 793 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: you who are willing to stand and go, I think 794 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: you could incrementally, incrementally move the needle. Now, it's an 795 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: exhausting battle, and you'd have to do a lot of vetos, 796 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: and you'd have to call out of special sessions, and 797 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: you'd have to get uber created, and you couldn't be 798 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: a government that says, well, it would matter exactly you 799 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: know you'd have to say I'm going to lose, but 800 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: I might stand up and say I disagree with this. Yeah, 801 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: but my bullet ridden body will stand in front of everyone. 802 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 3: And that's all we wanted from Mikah. Just say you 803 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 3: don't agree with this. We know you can't do anything, 804 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: Just say you don't agree with this. Yeah, but but 805 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 3: who is out there who would do that? 806 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: I'm talking on the Republican, Democrat, libertarian, Like, who is 807 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: the person who you would say this person can realistically 808 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: as strong as the machine has shown it to be. 809 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 2: Well, they're not going to let you get in there 810 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: if you're again, I'm even even running, Who's gonna even run? 811 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: Who can? 812 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: Who can be a viable person? And you're talking about 813 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: cash to run a campaign, all the stuff, and there's none, 814 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: Like you're a viable human, there's none. All right, I 815 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 3: refuse to end the week on a negative note. So 816 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: when we come back, coming up tomorrow, one of. 817 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: The biggest annual events in all of Central Indiana, Wham Fast, 818 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: coming up, we'll talk. We'll talk with Russ Dodge, one 819 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: of the people that us put on the event. It's 820 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: a great event every year in the city of Greenwood. 821 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: It's Kennel a Casey Show ninety three w IBC. 822 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: Come on. It's one of the biggest events of the 823 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: summer every year in Central Indiana. And it is tomorrow 824 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 2: in Greenwood. It's the Kennel and Casey Show. I'm Rob. 825 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: Casey's out today. Terry Lopez in for Casey. Joining us 826 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: now on the w ib C hotline is Russ Dodge. 827 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: He is helping put on once again this year Wham 828 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Fast Whine, Art, music, microbrew at Craig Park in Greenwood. 829 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: And what a spectacular event it always is every single year. 830 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: Is thousands upon thousands of people descend upon the city 831 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: of Greenwood. Rush joins is now Russ Dodge. 832 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,439 Speaker 7: Hello, Hey, good morning, Rob. Glad to be with you. 833 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 7: We're looking forward to a fantastic day tomorrow for the 834 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 7: Sartona Club of Greenwood's annual Whimfest. You're number sixteen and 835 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 7: it is a summer festival of wine, art, music and 836 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 7: microbrew and starts at twelve noon and goes through eight 837 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 7: thirty beautiful Craig Park in downtown Greenwood. 838 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Russ, so tell us about what takes place there. 839 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: As we said, it's pretty easy, right warem wamm wine, 840 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: art music, microrew Let's start with the music side of it. 841 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 7: Well, music is really great. You got some fantastic and 842 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 7: they're going to be performing out there. Starts off at 843 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 7: twelve noon with Phil Purley and then the j Baker Trio, 844 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 7: that nineties band which gets the people up and dance 845 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 7: in big time, and closing out the day with a Spasmatics. 846 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the spas Mattics. 847 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: So that music runs all throughout the day basically until 848 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: what like eight thirty in the evening. 849 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 7: That's correct. A couple of years ago the park put 850 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 7: in a permanent stage, which is really neat because there's 851 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 7: room for more larger bands and just plenty of room 852 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 7: and just good time. And the space in front of 853 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 7: the stage is huge, so everybody that wants to watch 854 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 7: can pick out their space right. There used to be 855 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 7: two stages and the second stage was an important stage, 856 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 7: and it wasn't quite as good. This is a whole 857 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 7: lot better. 858 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: Russ Dodge our guest, he's with wham Fast. It's going 859 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 1: on tomorrow Craig Park noon until eight thirty in Green 860 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: with thousands of people will be there for wine, art, 861 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: music and microbrew all right as we mentioned microbrew it's 862 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna be plenty of booze at this event too. 863 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 7: Oh you got a Garfield Brewery, Goldman House, the original 864 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 7: brewery that was there is oakn Barrow in their back 865 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 7: Planetary Brewing and the Cigar Creek Brewing, Taxman Brewing, Mashcraft Brewing, 866 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 7: and Saint Joseph Brewing and Public House, which is beautiful. 867 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 7: That's downtown right off Mass app If you've ever been 868 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 7: to that place. 869 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: Just one of my favorites and you could sample them all. Russ. 870 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: That's the thing. It's all in a one stop shop 871 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: thanks to anfest. 872 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely, just and people do too. That's the fun 873 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 7: part about it. 874 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 5: You know. 875 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 7: Some people have their favorites and that's where they go, 876 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 7: and other people say, well, I have to try every 877 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 7: beard this year. 878 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and no one would blame you if you did that. 879 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: Just don't You probably wouldn't be wise to drive home, 880 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: or at least wait a long time before you did it. 881 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 2: All right. The last part of this not forgotten last, 882 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: but at least is art. 883 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 7: There's about forty jury art fair artists from across the 884 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 7: country and you can go in there and you'll make 885 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 7: stuff for you I've bought stuff that has been assembled 886 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 7: for me there, or they just have stuff on display. 887 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 7: You can pick out what you want. It's really a 888 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 7: good cross section of fun. 889 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: Wine, art, music, and micro brew. It's tomorrow eight noon 890 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: until eight thirty Craig Park in Greenwood. It rough Russ. 891 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: People want to get tickets to this. What you have 892 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: to do to get in? How can they do that? 893 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 7: You got it? And tickets and more information is at 894 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 7: Whamfest dot com. You'll let you also know that this 895 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 7: is presented in part by the Eray Skullman Automotive Group. 896 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 7: It's just a fun, fun day. Everybody has a good time. 897 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 7: It's going to be a little warm tomorrow, so water 898 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 7: is in order and you are allowed to bring in 899 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 7: small bottles of water if you so choose. 900 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 2: Oh, you can bring your own water. 901 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: Very good, All right, Like we said, it's one of 902 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 1: the biggest events of the summer every single year. 903 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: What is it? You're number sixteen? 904 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: Is that right? 905 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 2: Russ? Yes, year number sixteen. 906 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: Whamfest Tomorrow Saturday, sixteen noon to eight thirty, Craig Park 907 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: and Greenwood, Russ Dodge. 908 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 7: Thank you and appreciate it greatly and always appreciates all 909 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 7: the great supports that we get from WIBC. 910 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 2: And that is going to do it for us today. 911 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us another great week 912 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: of radio here, and we love you, our wonderful, amazing 913 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: listening family. Thanks to Jerry for filling in for Casey, 914 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: Thanks as always to Kevin, and most importally, thank you 915 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: to you. 916 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 2: Without you, there is no US stick around. 917 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: Tony Kats Coming up next, It's Ken on The Casey Show, 918 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC