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Speaker 1: So Donald Trump he signed an executive order declaring that

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Speaker 1: America is going to return to the Moon by twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. I just keep thinking, this time of year,

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Speaker 1: George Lasso's the Moon. That's a it's a wonderful life.

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Speaker 2: Reference appropriate for this time of year.

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Speaker 1: But it is to establish parts of a lunar outpost

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Speaker 1: by twenty thirty. Also prepare for a journey to Mars.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump also wants to ensure that America is ready

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Speaker 1: to replace the ISSS by twenty thirty. All of this

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Speaker 1: is happening right after Jared Isaacman has been confirmed as

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Speaker 1: the new NASA administrator.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we finally got one. Good. Wasn't Sean Duffy, the

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Speaker 2: Transportation Secretary was filling in on that job for a

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Speaker 2: long time?

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Speaker 1: Correct? He was? So this you have to look at

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Speaker 1: this as somewhat of a decisive leap towards restoring American

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Speaker 1: space dominance. And the fact that Elon Musk has been

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Speaker 1: pushing us to go to Mars forever, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that there's so much talk about putting data centers in space.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this all coincides with that. And actually Trump kind

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Speaker 2: of telegraphed this back with the Big Beautiful Bill. In

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Speaker 2: previous budgets there had been some major cuts to NASA,

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Speaker 2: and when the Big Beautiful Bill passed earlier this year,

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Speaker 2: it threw an extra ten billion dollars back in NASA's budget.

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Speaker 2: So kind of felt like something like this was on

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Speaker 2: the horizon. And certainly Elon Musk and SpaceX will be

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Speaker 2: the big beneficiary of this because they already handle eighty

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Speaker 2: to ninety percent of all space traffic and rocket launches

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Speaker 2: in the United States right now. You've got to believe

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Speaker 2: there'll be a big part of this and getting back

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Speaker 2: to the Moon, and nobody has I mean, NASA doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a rocket like the heavy Falcon nine that can

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Speaker 2: that can get a payload to the Moon right now.

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Speaker 2: So SpaceX is pretty much the only choice.

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Speaker 1: So Jared Isaac Isaacman confirmed as NASA's new administrator. The

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Speaker 1: vote was sixty seven to thirty. And you know, there's

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Speaker 1: been uncertain you for quite a few months about any

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Speaker 1: sort of nomination or his nomination. He's a tech billionaire

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Speaker 1: and a private astronaut, and here he's talking about his

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Speaker 1: objectives of leading NASA.

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Speaker 3: So my objective is to ensure that President Trump's vision

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Speaker 3: is achieved and ideally ahead of schedule. So you talked

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Speaker 3: about a return to the Moon. For sure, we want

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Speaker 3: to do that before twenty twenty eight. In fact, we

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Speaker 3: have a Mission Artemis two that's set to launch in

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Speaker 3: the very near future. It will be the first time

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Speaker 3: we send American astronauts around the Moon more than a

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Speaker 3: half century. We want to follow that up with a landing.

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Speaker 3: And perhaps you know, one of the most important parts

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Speaker 3: of this new space policy is when they get there.

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Speaker 3: It's not just to plant the flag and pick up

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Speaker 3: some rocks, but establish the infrastructure, establish a lunar base,

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Speaker 3: and all the other things like our nuclear propulsion and

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Speaker 3: nuclear power investments, so we can set up missions beyond

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Speaker 3: moon in two Mars.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So his confirmation signals a bit of a shift

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Speaker 1: away from science and engineers, shift a little bit more

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Speaker 1: towards the private sector. He did donate two million dollars

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Speaker 1: to one of Trump's super packs, So you have to question, Okay,

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Speaker 1: is this you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course it is. That's the way politics works.

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Speaker 2: I tried to put it exactly.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to be nice about it.

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Speaker 2: Not giving Donald Trump super pack two million dollars unless

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Speaker 2: I want something in return and be in the head

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Speaker 2: of NASA. Pretty good return, not bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's some scrutiny obviously over his financial ties,

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Speaker 1: his political donations, and you know, his restructuring plans. You

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Speaker 1: got to know he's going to bring Elon Musk into

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Speaker 1: this and it will be if nothing else, he'll be

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Speaker 1: given advice, solicited or unsolicited.

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Speaker 2: I think where Trump misses the mark on this to

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Speaker 2: a degree is and look, I'm all for let's go

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Speaker 2: back to the mood in USA, USA and we're number

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Speaker 2: one and plant that flag. But at some point in time,

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Speaker 2: you've got to make an economic case for this. You've

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Speaker 2: got to make a business What are we doing, What

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Speaker 2: are we doing? Why are we doing this? Oh, we're

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Speaker 2: doing this exactly, we've been Okay, so we want to

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Speaker 2: build a base on there. Okay, well what's why? Why

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Speaker 2: are we building a base on there? And what's the

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Speaker 2: economic impact? It is part of this, you know, just

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Speaker 2: more research so that we can have data centers in

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Speaker 2: space and get them off of our farmland and save

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Speaker 2: money on cooling because obviously it doesn't cost anything to

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Speaker 2: cool things in space because it's freezing out there. That's

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Speaker 2: what Trump needs to do, especially when the country is,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of in a sluggish economic situation right now,

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Speaker 2: in unemployments rising, people are looking to have more dollars

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Speaker 2: in their pockets, and when you're spending money on things

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Speaker 2: like this to go to the moon, at some point

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Speaker 2: in time, you've got to make that economic business case

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Speaker 2: for it.