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Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, Welcome into Wednesday. You made it to

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Speaker 1: the midway point of the week. Here at ninety three

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Speaker 1: five one oh seven five. The fan it is. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what that with the time change, it's weird

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Speaker 1: starting when it's completely dark. I guess we're kind of

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Speaker 1: used to that. But that sun comes up a little

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Speaker 1: front of it. And for about fifteen minutes, man, you

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Speaker 1: just get blinded, not only from the studio lights up above,

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Speaker 1: but then when you look down normally you get blinded

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Speaker 1: for about fifteen minutes there too. See you're already wearing

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Speaker 1: your glasses to work, now, that's what happened already after yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I've been wearing the glasses for a while.

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Speaker 2: Man gets early and I'm like, I need to rest

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Speaker 2: from the contact. So I'm four eyes every seven am.

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Speaker 1: Kevin's got a hat on today. That means no class

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Speaker 1: in Bloomington this morning, right, Indeed.

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Speaker 3: I mean got on shower and I'm not very sanitary.

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Speaker 3: We keep our distance here in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Uver is the smartest guy here because he works

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Speaker 1: in a room that he can see us all through glass,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't have to physically be near us right now.

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Speaker 4: I have to be around you, guys, doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: smell us quite frankly.

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Speaker 1: No local basketball to watch last night. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what you guys did with your TV. But real quickly, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: I'll get to you in a second. But James, I

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Speaker 1: finished up season one of land Man last night. You

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Speaker 1: didn't tell me. Jerry Jones was coming out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: Wild show.

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Speaker 3: You get off Marshall, get listening here, go check it out.

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Speaker 1: He was pretty good though in the little scene that

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Speaker 3: It was it was. The show was wild. It's hard

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Speaker 3: to describe.

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Speaker 1: Kevin. Did you partake in any Tiger Woods viewing last

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Speaker 1: night with tgo?

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Speaker 4: Watched a little. He did hit the golf ball too

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Speaker 4: too much, although he threw another little t's out there

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Speaker 4: about the Masters. You are correct, no local basketball, But

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Speaker 4: I do think we should mention a national champion last

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Speaker 4: night the Marry and Women the Nights, So Tanna Anderson,

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Speaker 4: hope I'm saying the coach's name correctly over there, they upset.

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Speaker 4: I think that's fair to say the number one overall

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Speaker 4: team in the land door. They're down at half. I

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Speaker 4: saw some highlights late last night. Madison Bailey from Bedford,

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Speaker 4: they had all forty minutes. I think she had twenty

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Speaker 4: three or twenty four points. I know the brother of again.

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Speaker 4: I hope I say her first name correctly. I think

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Speaker 4: it's Kenna Kirby from Try West is a big listener.

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Speaker 3: He was in the YouTube chat yesterday.

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Speaker 4: So shout out to the Knights national champs over there.

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Speaker 4: They got a couple sisters from Cole Rain, very powerful

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Speaker 4: high school program out of Ohio. There they get it done.

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Speaker 4: They win four games in that tournament and they are

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Speaker 4: national champs. So don't say that very often. So pretty

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Speaker 4: pretty cool to see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they did a fantastic job. And man they've been

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Speaker 1: on a roll too. They lost two of three in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the season and then James they were

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Speaker 1: in after last night, an eighteen game winning streak to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking here.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five and two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's an outstanding record. And I mean

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Speaker 2: they really took the game by the Horns early on

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Speaker 2: one seventy three sixty one, so they were no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they get that one done there, and now

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Speaker 1: we start to turning our attention to other tournament games.

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Speaker 1: Got the boys high school state tournament happening for all

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Speaker 1: the championships on Saturday. You'll hear all four games right

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Speaker 1: here at ninety three, five, one or seven to the fan.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that a little bit as the show

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Speaker 1: goes along. But of course Friday night, James seven to ten,

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Speaker 2: Boy, I wish, I wish, but that will be a

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Speaker 2: great matchup, and as Kevin said, you get a chance

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Speaker 2: to if Purdue advance, relax and kick your feet up

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Speaker 2: and wait for that next matchup to kind of play

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Speaker 4: But Texas will present some challenges for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've watched these guys all four years now, this

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Speaker 1: core group of seniors, they obviously have been close to

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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny, you know, this is probably the last

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Speaker 4: lot of Monday Tuesday. I think it's such a great

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Speaker 4: the final sixteen, you know, you kind of kick the

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Speaker 4: we're still alive, and all right, who's coming over Thursday? Now,

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Speaker 4: Oh man, that's great that we're in the seven ten

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Speaker 4: you know time slot and you know all of that,

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Speaker 4: and now it's like, oh boy, here we go. Lock in.

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Speaker 3: They're out in San Jose. You know, you hope c. J.

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Speaker 4: Cox knee didn't flare up too much on that flight.

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Speaker 4: We'll see what the update is for Matt Painter today.

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Speaker 4: Pretty do we have an open practice out there in

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Speaker 4: San Jose. But yeah, certainly, Jeff, they've played great, great

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Speaker 4: Bradinsmith moving forward. You know that's probably State in the

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Speaker 4: obvious here. I'm not that concerned with Texas. I don't

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Speaker 4: different kind of role moving forward. And honestly, the big

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Speaker 3: Oh, they said they parted ways.

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Speaker 1: Hubert said it something, he said it different. He said

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Speaker 2: I'm just making a joke because Kevin, we all know

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Speaker 2: parts ways, eh, but continue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the key line is always we wish you well

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Speaker 1: on your future endeavors.

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Speaker 4: Language and press release can make you laugh at times there.

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Speaker 4: I think the buyout money would indicate what truly happened there.

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Speaker 4: I did see the name mentioned there for North Carolina

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Speaker 4: being Tommy Lloyd and Arizona. So, you know, is that

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Speaker 4: maybe is a little bit more on Arizona's players' minds

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Speaker 4: here in this day and agent college basketball, maybe that

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Speaker 3: Seemingly everybody is on kind of one year deals.

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Speaker 4: But big, big news item last night from college basketball,

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Speaker 4: and what's domino effect off of that? You know, when's

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Speaker 4: the last time the North Carolina job has been open

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Speaker 4: and they haven't gone in the family, Like there's no

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's no obviously, no like coaching waiting situation here.

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Speaker 4: So what where the dominoes around college basketball with that?

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Speaker 4: And does Kansas open up? You know, when is Bill

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Speaker 4: crazy time. I think it's an awesome, awesome sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 4: And then, if you want to look at it from

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Speaker 4: college basketball as a whole, North Carolina is one of

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Speaker 1: And already there's all kinds of speculation that I was

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Speaker 1: listening to a Charlotte station coming in this morning to

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Speaker 1: they want to go after Todd Golden, but Todd Golden

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Speaker 4: Is Billy Donovan's name ever not been mentioned when a

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Speaker 4: college basketball opening of prominence has come up in the

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Speaker 4: last decade.

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Speaker 1: No, every time.

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Speaker 3: And Billy Donovan and Brad Stevens, and.

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Speaker 1: Brad Stevens is another guy that they're talking about out

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Speaker 1: there too. It was those two, Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. When you're North Carolina in Kansas,

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Speaker 2: Did you mention Indiana as a blue blood with these programs?

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Speaker 1: My point is, in NIL what's a blue blood anymore?

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Speaker 1: What is a blue blood anymore?

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Speaker 3: I'm a good question.

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Speaker 5: If you're North Carolina, the idea that you would fire

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Speaker 5: a guy that has had some success for you maybe

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Speaker 5: not the ultimate success that you're looking for to be

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Speaker 5: another Dean Smith, the Roy Williams.

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Speaker 1: I get that, But they make these moves and I

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Speaker 1: don't know that they truly have a succession plan in place.

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Speaker 1: They just figure, oh, we're in North Carolina, we'll go

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Speaker 2: I think you probably should have that mindset, honestly, even

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Speaker 2: in the NIL era. It's North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: But my point is, you got to have a plan

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Speaker 1: arguing back and forth with Hubert Davis. They asked him

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Speaker 1: to look like if he stays and then they reject that,

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Speaker 1: it tells me they don't have a plan. That's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird, Like the whole I guess make

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Speaker 2: a case for yourself. Either make a decision to Jeff's

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Speaker 2: point and move on. But I think Hooper Davis, I mean,

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Speaker 2: outside of his first year, they are getting to the

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Speaker 2: National championship game.

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Speaker 3: It was very underwhelming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, Oh absolutely, I mean it was a great game,

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Speaker 2: but looking back on his tenure the last two years,

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Speaker 2: giving bounce, I believe in the first round and I

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Speaker 3: Okay, if kileb.

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Speaker 2: Wilson stays healthy, does that change things for you this season?

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, you should not have lost a what was

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Speaker 2: a nineteen point lead against VCU.

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday everyone. The Indiana Pacers returning to the floor

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Speaker 2: Impressive performance there, Yeah, anytime you can say you're the

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks John. Also other news in basketball, we've

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Speaker 2: I would like to know how Gordon Hay were factored

437
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Speaker 2: into all of this decision making. You know, I know

438
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Speaker 2: you were hired on it's kind of a front facing role,

439
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Speaker 2: but now you gotta do some real.

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Speaker 4: Work, right Your GM, Gordon Hayward and your eighty both

441
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Speaker 4: played on those national championship national runner up teams, so

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Speaker 4: you know that's where you see Nora ed and Shrewsbury

443
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Speaker 4: and you know John Gross obviously got to go back

444
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Speaker 4: a little bit of a ways there. So yeah, we'll

445
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Speaker 4: see if there's a white smoke from forty ninth Street

446
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Speaker 4: coming up later today.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball News, they had been rumored to be

449
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Speaker 1: making progress on a deal. Yesterday it was announced Pete

450
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Speaker 1: Crow Armstrong in the Cubs have agreed to a six year,

451
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen million dollar contract. And Frank Thomas

452
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Speaker 1: is having more beef with the White Sox James. They've

453
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Speaker 1: been selling number thirty five jerseys with his name on

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Speaker 1: the back. He says he did not authorize that he

455
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Speaker 1: is suing the team. This is a team that he

456
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Speaker 1: has had beef with since he felt their team doctors

457
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Speaker 1: brought a premature into his career by misdiagnosing a knee

458
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Speaker 1: injury back in two thousand and four didn't like the

459
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Speaker 1: way that he was used and portrayed in their historical

460
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Speaker 1: celebration for all time great players. Recently, he and the

461
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Speaker 1: White Sox just don't get along anymore.

462
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Speaker 2: What did I tell you all yesterday, Moss sports hots,

463
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Speaker 2: is that if you spent ten years cheering for a

464
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Speaker 2: team with a terrible owner, it's time to jump ship.

465
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Speaker 2: So if you're a White Sox fan, I'll give you

466
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Speaker 2: a pass join another franchise. Get what the competent owner?

467
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Speaker 2: Socks and Bulls both, Yes, I mean they have the

468
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Speaker 2: same owner.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh yeah, you know are we opening day today? Oh yeah,

471
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Speaker 4: Giants Yankees?

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Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

473
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Speaker 4: I think that is.

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Speaker 3: Clearly not top of mind for a lot of us

475
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Speaker 3: in here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean the Reds are coming up later on

477
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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: Giants Yankees on the Netflix. There's baseball games on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Netflix is gonna use like a roster of fifty people

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Speaker 1: to broadcast this game.

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Speaker 4: It's an Apple TV come of the big weekly MLB game.

482
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, But I hadn't heard Netflix. I'm getting old.

483
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Speaker 4: I think opening Day and earnest tomorrow. But yes, you'll

484
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Speaker 4: get an opening night here.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't want to talk about the Yankees.

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Speaker 4: I use spring football underway tomorrow. I don't think I've

487
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Speaker 4: ever mentioned that in the history of the show, but

488
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Speaker 4: that seems to be very relevant. So kurtz Ignaty will

489
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Speaker 4: meet the media tomorrow. I don't think he does much

490
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Speaker 4: of a spring game. If I remember, he does it Thursday

491
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Speaker 4: of a little five week So, yeah, it is time

492
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Speaker 4: to play football again in Indiana and carbon announcement right

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Speaker 4: County Crows switch foot, Jeff, you could be front row.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably be around. I don't know if I'll be. Uh,

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Speaker 1: i'll be. I will go if it comes down to

496
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Speaker 1: it and you give me enough Miller lights at the

497
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Speaker 1: beginning of the of the show, I may be the

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Speaker 1: guy that just volunteers to be passed up through the crowd.

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Speaker 4: Look at that pressure works, folks man.

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Speaker 1: Did you missed the keyword? Did they hear the keyword? Caleb?

501
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Speaker 1: What was the keyword at the beginning of that sentence?

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Speaker 4: Might?

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Speaker 1: If? And might?

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Speaker 4: Last year, I believe you threw a couple back on

505
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Speaker 4: the seven o'clock hours.

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Speaker 1: I saw him do a kexstand one half one half

507
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Speaker 1: a keg. That's what it was, Caleb.

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Speaker 4: All right, one half a keg.

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Speaker 1: Holy I told you, well, we're going to escalate it.

510
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Speaker 4: Let's just escalate it there.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna escalate it, let's go. All right, you've

512
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Speaker 1: been a bad influence on me, Kevin Bowen. We'll continue.

513
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Speaker 1: We get a.

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Speaker 4: Counting Crow song at some point today, Caleb just like, can.

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Speaker 1: You can do it? Next? Rejoin? All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 3: Get ready for Carbday.

518
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Speaker 1: Here, there you go, coming your way on Carb Day.

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Speaker 4: Set his beer down.

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Speaker 1: We'll be we'll be graduating to a fifth by the

521
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Speaker 1: end of the show. Third hour. I'll just be hugging

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Speaker 1: it back.

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Speaker 4: I think it's honestly like what is like uh a

524
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Speaker 4: muscleok or something?

525
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Speaker 1: You you have your little jug of beer over there,

526
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Speaker 1: you have whatever little trendy micro brew you're gonna have,

527
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Speaker 1: and I'll stick to my protein drink. How's that fair enough?

528
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Speaker 1: And everybody will be having me boy big drinker here.

529
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you and your jugs of beer.

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Speaker 4: Brew, I don't I'm not sure if I follow Carb Day.

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Speaker 4: I think you're just throwing back the light beers.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was just talking about you in general. Whatever

533
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Speaker 1: it is you want to you want to do got

534
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Speaker 1: it so, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's have

535
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Speaker 1: we ever had better situations than Beers with Bowen? I

536
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Speaker 1: mean that's pretty good stuff, right there, Beers. What's the

537
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Speaker 1: next years with Bowen?

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Speaker 4: My shirt that should be sold at the shop? Yeah,

539
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Speaker 4: we gotta we got clear that with the with the

540
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Speaker 4: higher ups, we should uh we should start those back up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'll bring that up maybe right after May.

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Speaker 1: We have we got the golf having up, we got

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Speaker 1: May coming up, we got the golf tournament coming up,

544
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Speaker 1: we got the final four happening today.

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Speaker 3: It would be pretty good carb day weather, would it?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 1: Not too bad? Not too bad? Would you be rocking

548
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Speaker 1: the T shirt already and the skewing a jacket or

549
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Speaker 1: how would that be?

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Speaker 4: I think, knowing what's coming later in the day, I

551
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Speaker 4: think you could handle the T shirt for the first

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Speaker 4: couple hours. And I mean, what high seventy today looks awesome.

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Speaker 1: See, it's a good day to go. Sign up for

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Speaker 1: the Fan Golf Invitational twenty twenty six percent by Franciscan Health.

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Speaker 1: It'll be April thirtieth down at Legends Golf Club. I

556
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Speaker 1: found out yesterday we're gonna have a once again some

557
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Speaker 1: Mazouno golf clubs to give away into that.

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Speaker 4: I love me some Mazuno action here man and I

559
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Speaker 4: went on them off of the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. And then

561
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Speaker 1: we've got uh. I think Tucker Barnhardt's getting to force

562
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Speaker 1: him together. Last I heard, he's coming out. Don Fisher

563
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Speaker 1: is going to be there, Eddie White from the Pacers

564
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Speaker 1: going to be around. We'll have some different folks from

565
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Speaker 1: Butler coming by, maybe even the new head coach when

566
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Speaker 1: it's all said and done, and we're still building the

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Speaker 1: roster out from there. Yeah, I have to ask our

568
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Speaker 1: guests coming up. Uh, we're gonna have a little get together,

569
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Speaker 1: a total wine on the Friday before the Final four.

570
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Speaker 1: Brian Cardinal former DUE player and Alan Henderson former IU player,

571
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Speaker 1: going to hang out together for a while. In two.

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Speaker 1: We've been very busy here, Kevin. We've got a lot

573
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Speaker 1: going on right now. Heer's with Bowen could be coming

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Speaker 1: down the road. But anyway, go to one O seven

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Speaker 1: five the fan dot com and you can register for

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Speaker 1: your spot today or you're foursome, twosome, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: we don't care. That's the way to go do it,

578
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Speaker 1: but you can bet on one of the kind experiences

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Speaker 1: while you're there. Got the free cancer screenings available on

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Speaker 1: site courtesy of the Franciscan Health Cancer Center. Will all

581
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Speaker 1: be there at Caleb, You're even gonna show up and

582
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Speaker 1: be out there, right.

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Speaker 6: I'm planning on showing up to the to the fan

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Speaker 6: golf outing, especially to hang out with you all, and

585
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Speaker 6: then also carved day man like it'll be. This will

586
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Speaker 6: be my first one as a non Indiana resident, so

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Speaker 6: I am looking forward to it and can't wait to

588
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Speaker 6: take it all in and experience it for the first time.

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Speaker 1: You have not made your way to the snake pit

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Speaker 1: at this point in time.

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Speaker 6: Then have not, so this will be the first.

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Speaker 1: When when do you think peak snake pit viewing will

593
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Speaker 1: be available an hour two into the concert?

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Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean to me, it's probably a little

595
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Speaker 4: bit more race day for snakebit action, but maybe it starts.

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Speaker 2: On carbon to see Honestly, is someone who went to

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Speaker 2: their first five last year?

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Speaker 1: Caleb.

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Speaker 2: I will not warn you of anything you might see

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Speaker 2: over there, but boy, that was a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You don't hide your eyes, you open your eyes

602
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Speaker 4: extra wide, right.

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Speaker 2: Man, I see life a lot differently after that, the

604
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Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen team that returns all five.

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Speaker 4: Players from last season their top five scores, all played

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Speaker 4: for them last season. There's only one and you name

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Speaker 4: them all right now, let me look at the bracket.

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Speaker 1: No, I gotta check out there.

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Speaker 6: Oh you got me on top five scores this year.

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Speaker 4: We're all played for them last year. Michigan State, Jeff

611
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Speaker 4: gotta guess.

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Speaker 1: My first thought was Michigan. I am gonna go. Got

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Speaker 1: too many freshmen. I'm thinking a freshman that are already

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Speaker 1: I don't know, is it.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna get Saint John's over here, Iowa State?

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Speaker 4: Maybe James Boyd?

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Speaker 1: Nice?

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Speaker 4: How about that? Now on the flip, the team with

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Speaker 4: their top five scores and none of them on last year's.

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Speaker 1: Team, none of them not.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna guess Arkansas Duke. I'm gonna say, Michigan

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Speaker 2: James Boyd.

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Speaker 4: How, oh my gosh, this man should be on Sports Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I remember Stumped the schwab D. Did

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Speaker 1: you remember that show?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was a great great watch me back

627
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Speaker 4: in the night I was schwab That's kind of wild, James,

628
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Speaker 4: you think about it. They made the Sweet sixteen last year,

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Speaker 4: Michigan his first season, and you know they got a

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Speaker 4: freshman Trey McKenny. We obviously have seen Yaxel Transfernanda the

631
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Speaker 4: UA B if I remember correctly for him, Elliot Caddou

632
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Speaker 4: coming from North Carolina. Uh, kind of wild that you have. Yeah,

633
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Speaker 4: I would not have guessed that right away on that.

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Speaker 4: So Michigan State they have been a little bit more

635
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Speaker 4: of not the most portal hungry team. Really with Izzo,

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Speaker 4: I still haven't seen one of those graphics. I feel

637
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Speaker 4: like we usually see him around the sweet sixteen where

638
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Speaker 4: like they list the starting lineups of where they started their.

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Speaker 3: Careers, and it is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 4: Obviously from a produce standpoint, four of the five Cluff

641
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Speaker 4: would be the one Oscar Cluff would be the one here.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I found that interesting when I heard that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So here's a question I was thinking about as we

644
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Speaker 2: get closer to the sweet sixteen, and obviously the college

645
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Speaker 2: basketball landscape has changed, But at what point do you

646
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Speaker 2: think we in our space complain too much about the

647
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Speaker 2: differences of how the sports are now? For example, like

648
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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the conversation these days

649
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Speaker 2: is like, oh man, there's no Cinderellas and nil this

650
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Speaker 2: andil that. But like, do you still not get some

651
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Speaker 2: of that march maddness feeling or how do you all

652
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Speaker 2: feel about just the changing landscape? Because it's in my

653
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Speaker 2: mind I'm always like, all right, maybe I've complained enough.

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Speaker 2: I hear my mom and my ear saying, boy, just

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Speaker 2: suck it up. And at some point I'm like, can

656
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 2: I just enjoy the sport? And I feel like I

657
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: have still if I changed my perspective a little bit.

658
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: I think once the ball gets tipped up and we

659
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: just start watching a game, it's basketball right at that

660
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: point in time. Yeah, and then we get back to

661
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: bitching and complaining when it's over with, depending on how

662
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: things turned out. That's kind of what we do, is it? Kevin? Yeah?

663
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: I mean what's the alternative? Is the alternative not to watch?

664
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Well?

665
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: I don't think I want to do that, But like

666
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: if you presented the two with me, do I wish

667
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 4: there are a few more guardrails?

668
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: Do I wish you had a little bit more team continuity?

669
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: And like, oh, you know, I just mentioned IU football

670
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: spring is about ready to start. Like if you asked

671
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: an average IU football fan, right now, name five players

672
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: on your team for next year. I think I could

673
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: do it.

674
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody wants to say God.

675
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: And again that's the climate like that, and I think

676
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: that's a little bit of the bummer aspect to it.

677
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: It's you know, I.

678
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: Feel like historically you you see the poster Scott, He's

679
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: got one in his office of the IU basketball roster,

680
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: the floating heads, you know, and it's like every year

681
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: you look at it and it's like, wait, none of

682
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: those were on the poster last year, right, and this

683
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: year is going to be the same thing. Like I

684
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 4: I think that's a little bit of a bummer. Now again,

685
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: when the ball is tipped to use Jeff's one shining

686
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: moment lyric, you know, obviously people are still watching, and

687
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: you know, Purdue fans they don't have it as much.

688
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: I guess if you want to live it from a

689
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: local standpoint. But yeah, I you know, I'm kind of

690
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: this weird like fan predicament. Maybe I'll ask you guys

691
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: for some advice right now, Like, Okay, Notre Dame Micah Shrewsbury,

692
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: rumored to be a candidate of Butler, comes out last night.

693
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: According to the South Bend Tribune. He's not a candidate.

694
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: Should I want Michael sh Shrewsbury to take the butler job?

695
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: Does it count that I don't want Micah Shrewsbury to

696
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: take the butler job.

697
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: So you don't think he's a good coach?

698
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: Is that?

699
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: What is that?

700
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 3: Why you're saying that.

701
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: Not a coach I want to run. I've not been

702
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: overly impressed at Notre Dame.

703
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 2: So would you want him to take that job so

704
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: you can get an upgrade in Notre Dame?

705
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: Yes, saying.

706
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: So That's where I find myself torn as a fan

707
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: right now? It comes out in the reporting last night

708
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 4: that Notre Dame, one of their rotational players made one

709
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in Notre last year and

710
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: he has been offered a one million dollar rotational spot

711
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: at another school. When you when you hear the word

712
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: Notre Dame, you don't think of financial issues, correct, right?

713
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: And we're talking here this dude's being offered ten times

714
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: the amount of money he just made last year and

715
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: Notre Dame can't pony that up, like do they just

716
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: not care about basketball? And then okay, then how do

717
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 4: I view Michael Shrewsbury. He hasn't had a ranked win

718
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: in three years. Notre Dame has had largely an awful record.

719
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: Now again, they've had injuries. I'm probably in the two

720
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: percent of the fan base that doesn't want him fired.

721
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: I don't really know why, to be honest with you,

722
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: I weirdly think, like, let's just see this out that

723
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: he's had bad injury, luck, all of it. But then

724
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: I sit there and look at the finances, and I'm like,

725
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: how are you expected to compete at a high level

726
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: when your rotational player is getting offered ten times the

727
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: amount of money to go play somewhere else? Like do

728
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: you have money or do you not?

729
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: Or is all the money just go to football and

730
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: whatever is left the r the best?

731
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: And then from an athletic program, how do you divide

732
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: that up? I'm very like conflicted, I guess, James, and

733
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if maybe this gets back to what

734
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: you brought up a few minutes ago, but it's just

735
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: like I don't really know how to react as a

736
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: fan right now. Of like, would anybody succeed in today's

737
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: climate with Notre Dame's budget consideration? From a basketball standpoint,

738
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 4: it is Butler. Is there any analogy to Butler? I mean,

739
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: what did we just hear from bad Mada in a

740
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: lot of these press conferences. What did we hear from

741
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: fellow biggiest coaches? Well, Butler's not able to sit at

742
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: the same table Kevin's other biggiest teams. I really fight

743
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: that as a fan right now, of like, how can

744
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: you critically evaluate the situation when simply it seems to

745
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: come down to like do you have money or do

746
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: you not? Now, if you have money, I either school

747
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: in Bloomington and you continue to lose, that's obviously not

748
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: good at all. That That's where I'm torn.

749
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 6: Well, and you go back to what Dan Hurley said

750
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 6: about the state of the Butler program back in February

751
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 6: and talking about how they need more resources. Kevin, do

752
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 6: you feel like, you know, if Micah Shrewsbury leaves Notre

753
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 6: Dame for Butler? Do you are you asking that question?

754
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 6: Because do you feel like it would be kind of like, man,

755
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 6: Notre Dame is not even basketball is not even as

756
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 6: good of a job as the Butler job. Like, and

757
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 6: we're in the acc we have history. I know Butler

758
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 6: a lot has a lot of history too, but is

759
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 6: that kind of what you're scared of as well? Like

760
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 6: if he left for that job in the state and

761
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 6: feeling like, man, we're lower on the pecking order.

762
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a thought, like is it viewed as

763
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 4: a dark day for Notre Dame basketball or is Michael

764
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 4: Shrewsbury looking at it and saying, boy, I'm Chris bout

765
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: and change staking with the Colts for this year, Like

766
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 4: the seat is scorching hot. I need to get ahead

767
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 4: of the game here. And maybe I'm more of whatever.

768
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: You know, Butler, he obviously has history there. He went

769
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: to high school here in Indianapolis. You know, there are plenty

770
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: of reasons for him to have some attraction there. And

771
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of this gets back to the

772
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: Hubert Davis saying to lead off the show with of

773
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: you know, are there North Carolina boosters that are saying,

774
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: I have a million dollars already donate to the program.

775
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: It will come if Hubert Davis is not the head coach.

776
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of that too. One other

777
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: little nugget about that situation. Bubba Cunningham, the current athletic director,

778
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: the guy responsible for Bill Belichick in a lot of

779
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: ways he's going to be elevated to like a special

780
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: position within North Carolina, and a brand new guy is

781
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: coming in to run day to day operations as the

782
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: athletic director on June first, And it could be that

783
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: that guy just wants to bring in his own guy

784
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: and wants a clean break and wants to get going forward.

785
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: In addition to money. People that are saying, yeah, we

786
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: really wouldn't mind, because what I've heard is there are

787
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: a few hardcores at North Carolina that want Hubert Davis gone,

788
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of other people like we like Hubert.

789
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: I guess it'd be okay if he stayed, but I

790
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: guess it'd be okay if he left. To you put

791
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: all that together, and there just was no runway for him.

792
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 4: Like going back to the Butler combo, was this one

793
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 4: thousand percent that model a side and hanging up or

794
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: where there's some Butler lums that say, look, this is

795
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 4: not working. I hear Thad's comments. He does not sound

796
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: like a man that is ready to fully embrace this

797
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: new era of college basketball, which if I can raise

798
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: my hand, I don't blame him if I accomplish with that.

799
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: Mada has in my career. I'm probably not gonna put

800
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: up with it either. But again, if you are saying, hey,

801
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: I'm not ready to donate to whatever this collective that collective,

802
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: but if you're going to make a change here, I

803
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: might be a little bit more open minded to that.

804
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: To the point about that, I think what's difficult is

805
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: that even when you do have success early, if it

806
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: isn't sustained right away, you're kind of always on the

807
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: hot seat. It feels like because one like, let's say

808
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: you have a good season and you have some players

809
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: that come to you, you develop in a little bit,

810
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: they work out, and then it's like, all right, are

811
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: you gonna be back next year? I know we just

812
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: had a great thing going, but you know, do you

813
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: still love me? And that sort of thing. And I

814
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: do think that's a big factor when other school can

815
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: just always swoop in.

816
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 3: And say here's a bigger check.

817
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure like that's always against North Carolina

818
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: of the world. I mean, they can pay for anybody

819
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: with the right backing. But Butler, I do think that's

820
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: probably a conversation you have to have even if you

821
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: do have some success.

822
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the other thing about Hubert Davis too.

823
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: He was one and twelve against quad one teams this year,

824
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: but career he was twenty three and thirty eight against

825
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: quad one teams. That's not North Carolina. Yeah, that's not

826
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: what the standard is there. So I like Hubert Davis.

827
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: I think he probably would have been okay had he

828
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: stayed there, but his record shows that he had not

829
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: had great success against the better teams in college.

830
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Battle just said it there, Jeff, he was okay, that's

831
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: not Carol. That ain't gonna cut it.

832
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: But he's a family guy and everybody loved him, and

833
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: that's probably why he made it for as deep as

834
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: he did.

835
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: We gonna love you enough to pay his buyout.

836
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: Thank you to love for sending this. We asked or

837
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: I guess I asked it out loud. You know that

838
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: that graphic you see kind of thrown around this time

839
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 4: of year, You know where the starting five of each

840
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: of the Sweet sixteen teams, where did they begin their

841
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: college careers? Again, Michigan State all five, Purdue for Duke,

842
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 4: for Houston for Arizona, and Alabama also have four. So

843
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 4: the Sweet sixteen teams won two, three, four. He got

844
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: six of the sixteen have four or five of their

845
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: starters that all began their career. It is kind of

846
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 4: funny to look at the Purdue logo and it pops

847
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 4: up on another team, and that would be Cam Heidi.

848
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: Tomorrow night is Shon Deller of Cam Heidi stand in

849
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 4: front of the room and break down Purdue film.

850
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 6: I have a nice shot there last weekend give a

851
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 6: presentation just on tendencies for each player.

852
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: I like it.

853
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.

854
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: I feel like that is always.

855
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 2: The easiest story to do when you're in the media,

856
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: is when the former player faces the former team or

857
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: vice versa.

858
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 4: Even BENNEDICG.

859
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: Matherin like he's been gone for a while and now

860
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: but when he comes back here, that's a little bit

861
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: different because he's coming back to the team that drafted

862
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: him and it's still in the same season.

863
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: But I still think that there probably will be a lot.

864
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: Of questions about, wait, Benedict Mather did you give me

865
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: any like tips on plays? And it's like, well, it's

866
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: a game seventy three of whatever season.

867
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like those assistant coaches for the Clippers have been

868
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 6: studying pacer.

869
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: They know the pacers just as good as mad. I'm

870
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: sure they've got the advanced scouts all over the Pacers.

871
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: At this point in time, you just write him down

872
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: as hey, keep this game close in the fourth quarter.

873
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: They don't want to win this game. We'll just move on.

874
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cam Heidi revenge game. And I said that

875
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: as a joke yesterday and someone was like, why would

876
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: you be mad? I'm like, no, it's not a serious thing,

877
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: but it's just funny to think about, Like that could

878
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: be some sort of motivation, if anything, for that matchup.

879
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Last thing on your overall point there, Kevin, I go

880
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: back to a stat that we talked about I think

881
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: a week ago, and Caleb, I don't know if you

882
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: were here, maybe i'll ask you. And for people who

883
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: haven't heard this, out of all the Power for schools,

884
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: the Power four conferences, how many players total have played

885
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: all four years at their current school if they're a senior.

886
00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 6: Now, I'll guess seven twenty two under sold it. I

887
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: played the game wrong there. I got to over sell

888
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 6: it so that you can like, but seven sold it

889
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 6: too much.

890
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: That was bad. When you're talking about fifteen guys over

891
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: what about sixty four give or take teams? That's that's

892
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: a crazy number. Twenty two, Kevin, that's nuts in today's world.

893
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Jordan Cornette, by the way, I joined us coming

894
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 4: up nine o'clock. He was on the Westwood one call

895
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: of Purdue beating Miami on Sunday. I always enjoy his thoughts,

896
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 4: and I think, honestly, he's got a lot of relevance

897
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: to today's topic given that he played an Notre Dame and obviously,

898
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: you know, very close to the Butler program as well

899
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 4: with his late great brother. So Jordan Cornett canna join

900
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: us here coming up at nine today?

901
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk about a lot of those things

902
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: as well. And where are we at with Illinois? Man?

903
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: How's how's the program doing over there? But you're feeling good?

904
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: I feel good.

905
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: I mean they're a really good team this year. And

906
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: I don't say that just because I'm wearing the hoodie.

907
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: But they have a chance to, I really believe, get

908
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: to a Final four. So it'll be tough to knock

909
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: off Houston this week, but I'm excited for it.

910
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward

911
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: to these games. And like I said, I know we

912
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: talked a lot yesterday about Cinderella being dead, but at

913
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: the same time, you're looking at the heavyweight to college

914
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: basketball going at it right now.

915
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna ask James, like, this feels like

916
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 6: a big Brad Underwood moment. I feel like he needs

917
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 6: this big tournament win to beat Kelvin Samson in Houston.

918
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 6: I think would be like really really important for him

919
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 6: and kind of how people remember kind of his tenure

920
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 6: because he's done a great job building this program back

921
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 6: and now it's like time to take that next step.

922
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: Right Absolutely.

923
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: I believe they've only been to the sweet six team

924
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: twice since the five runs in the National Championship. So

925
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: I'll let you know, gosh, that's crazy. How Yeah, that

926
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: is nuts to think about. But on top of that,

927
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Speaker 2: that's one of the knocks on Underwood's like, Okay, well,

928
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: you've built them back up. They've got the most I

929
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Speaker 2: think big ten wins of the twenty twenties, and you know,

930
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: regular season playing all that, but can you go further

931
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: in March? So got an opportunity in front of you,

932
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: But Houston will certainly not lay down because those who

933
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: can play and they're there.

934
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: I feel like at the end every year.

935
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Speaker 1: Two three, nine, ten seventy is the number to call

936
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Speaker 1: in or just Texas too, three nine ten seventy the

937
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Speaker 1: fan text line. We'll read some of those as we

938
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Speaker 1: go along throughout the day as well. You're listening to

939
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Speaker 1: the Fan Morning Show ninety three five one, I'm seven

940
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Speaker 1: to five of the fan. Yes, indeed, we've got to

941
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen coming up for college basketball and already

942
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: the coaching carousel. If you think about a carousel, right,

943
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: you think about a slow moving kids ride where the

944
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: little horses are going up and down, and maybe maybe

945
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Speaker 1: there's one little elephant that your little boy likes to

946
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: get on or throw something like that. Right now, that

947
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: that carousel it's blown a gasket. Man, it's just spinning

948
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: wildly out there. Who knows who's gonna end up where

949
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave a job for multi millions to go

950
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: to another job worth multi millions. I heard this. I

951
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: heard this morning that Will Wade as rumored to go

952
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: back to LSU at this point in time.

953
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 4: I did see that as well.

954
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, and then you got Kansas. It could be

955
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: self is making rumblings about maybe I don't feel well

956
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: enough to do this job. He'll make a decision right,

957
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: he's had all kinds of health issues, and North Carolina's

958
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: parting way with one of their family members and Hubert

959
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Davis and it's just and now down at Miami, they're

960
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: talking about giving Todd Golden an extension for the third

961
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Speaker 1: year in Aurora, Florida. I'm sorry, Florida, for the third

962
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: year in a row.

963
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: So I know Kevin made this remark earlier about certain

964
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: coaches will get a raised with a couple extra zeros

965
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: they haven't earned.

966
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: Boy, once in my life, I would love to experience that, right,

967
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: sounds a good life, doesn't.

968
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, the market changes and all of a sudden, I'm

969
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: getting a raise because that's.

970
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: Because you know, made it to the NCAA.

971
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: Tournament in year three or whatever the case may be

972
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: from our resume. But that's the reality of what we're

973
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: dealing with.

974
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: But but Golden's put some gold in his pocket though,

975
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he's playing with out.

976
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: He won a national championship last year, and they had

977
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: a really good team this year as well. But as

978
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: someone who was still I think i'm I would say

979
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm so relatively new to the college basketball landscape as

980
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: far as just how things work and how they've worked

981
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: in the past.

982
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: What do you think is a.

983
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: Job that's too big to not consider North Carolina.

984
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: I think a lot of that conversation came up with Kurtzignetty.

985
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Not this past season, but like after that first year

986
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: at IU, It's like, Okay, well, you know, how much

987
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: do they have to pay to make sure he stays

988
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: at IU? Because i U isn't Penn State, it isn't Alabama,

989
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: it isn't whatever.

990
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 3: But what are the isn't schools on that list?

991
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: I saw one of the names, it was Tommy Lloyd

992
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: last night. Yeah, and I'm kind of thinking of myself, Man,

993
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: isn't Arizona a great job? I mean, first off, if

994
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: you want to play the geography game, I'm not too

995
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 4: worried about UCLA and USC. I think I could have

996
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 4: a pretty good footprint in the LA area or southern

997
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: California area. Right from a recruiting standpoint, you know, if

998
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: you want to stretch it up a little bit more,

999
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: you got to go ally up to Gonzaga, you know,

1000
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: really to have a program you're worried about, right, you know,

1001
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: maybe being in the Big twelve geographic it's not like

1002
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: super ideal, but you know, from a basketball standpoint, it's

1003
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 4: a great conference. So yeah, to me, it's kind of like,

1004
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 4: wouldn't you be pretty content there? I mean, financially, I

1005
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 4: guess I'd have to look at dollars and cents a

1006
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: little bit. But you know, when you're in North Carolina,

1007
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: I mean, right there in your own backyard, you got

1008
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 4: a whole lot of competition. From obviously a duke standpoint there,

1009
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 4: So that was a name when I saw that mentioned.

1010
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: Obviously I think Tommy Lloyd's a great coach, but I'm like,

1011
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 4: you know, isn't Arizona pretty close to being on that

1012
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 4: same level present day? At least? I mean, and that's

1013
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: the credit to Tommy Lloyd, by the way.

1014
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: And they've got history of art Arizona too.

1015
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 4: I don't actually got Carolina history, but still they've got

1016
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: enough that I think, and clearly from you know, not

1017
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: that they've been nil crazy, but they've done enough. And

1018
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: you know, Tommy Lloyd's done a nice job at the

1019
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 4: International Pipeline, which I think kind of dates back to

1020
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: his Gonzaga days. But when I saw that news last night,

1021
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: I thought to myself, you know, what if Purdue advances

1022
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: and Tommy Lloyd's got a field a few more questions

1023
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: that with Arizona there potentially in the Elite eight, might

1024
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 4: be good news for the Boilers.

1025
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Here's another thing that's crazy too, And I chalk this

1026
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: up more to fans maybe being hopeful than anything real

1027
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: to it. But there's a group of I saw a

1028
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: group of online folks that are Kentucky fans are like,

1029
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 1: bring Calip Perry back, get rid of Pope, Let's bring

1030
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: Calip Perry back. Let's would anything shock you at this

1031
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: point you smile and you drop your head, James, But

1032
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, would you just would

1033
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: you go, oh, man, I never saw that one coming,

1034
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: or would you go out? That's college basketball in twenty

1035
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: twenty five.

1036
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: Honestly I dropped my head. But I dropped my head

1037
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: probably because.

1038
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't think cal would go back.

1039
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: I can't still rule it out, but yeah, that would

1040
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: be that would be a wild one for sure.

1041
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1042
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 4: It's like Dustin May's name with North Carolina. I mean,

1043
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: you know, don't you have a pretty good thing going

1044
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 4: at Michigan financially you seem to be in a pretty

1045
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: healthy state. I mean, look at what he was able

1046
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: to do from a portal standpoint. And you know, I

1047
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 4: think you got to ask yourself as a coach too,

1048
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 4: do you want to be sitting on that front burner

1049
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 4: and when you're out of Carolina, or you're out of Kentucky,

1050
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 4: or you're at Hell, when you're at in Indiana, you're

1051
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: on the front burner, and that thing's gonna get hot

1052
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 4: and or much quicker than it is at other stops.

1053
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: And I get some people, I'd say, well, if you're

1054
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 4: at a football school, you're not going to be getting

1055
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 4: the major nil money this and that. Okay, I can

1056
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 4: listen to that conversation a little bit, but I don't

1057
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 4: know there's something to do with a I'm pretty content

1058
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: with my situation financially. We got a good thing going.

1059
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 4: I don't need to be, you know, signing every baby

1060
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 4: and you know, kissing every grandma when I go out

1061
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: to get coffee in the morning.

1062
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: Well, you look at someone like Kurt Signetti two years

1063
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: at IU, obviously had a tremendous first year, makes the

1064
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, wins it all in the second year,

1065
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: is making as much or more money than anybody else

1066
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: out there. Got a nice little setup going on down

1067
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: in Bloomington. His family's been there for a couple of

1068
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: years now, and he's laid the foundation for more success

1069
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: in the future. You know, a guy like that, where

1070
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: else does he want to go at this point in time?

1071
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean these are all valid questions, but I

1072
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: also just wonder how much do you know coaches are

1073
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: crazy and they care about being competitive, which is why

1074
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: they're in that field. And does any party you say

1075
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: it's North Carolina? I can I not look at that.

1076
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean, let's be honest. That helps them as a brand.

1077
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: It's a school that Michael Jordan went to.

1078
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: It's funny I was telling you all the things they

1079
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: were talking about at the Charlotte radio station this morning.

1080
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: You brought up Gordon Hayward at Butler and what his

1081
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: role is going to be there. He was on a

1082
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: podcast yesterday and the guys down there were talking about

1083
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: the fact that he said, you know who would be

1084
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: the perfect guy there, It's Brad Stevens. He'd be absolutely

1085
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 1: the perfect guy for North Carolina. And then the logical

1086
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: part of your brain goes the dude's making millions of

1087
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: dollars to run one of the most storied franchises in

1088
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: all of sports, and he's got an NBA championship there,

1089
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: they're along the way towards competing for another one. That

1090
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: core looks like they're going to be there for a while.

1091
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: And he's making a ton of money and he doesn't

1092
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: have to get on airplanes every three days, and he

1093
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have to prepare scouting reports, and he doesn't have

1094
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: to recruit kids and make sure that they're getting paid

1095
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: enough money. Would he want to do that in today's world?

1096
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the time commitment.

1097
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: I've talked to a few coaches about that, ands the

1098
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: changing landscape, and boy, it's just a lot you're I mean, obviously,

1099
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: when you're a college coach, you're not going to have

1100
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: the same sort of schedule as a Rick Carlisle in

1101
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: the NBA, which is more said, and you have to

1102
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 2: contracts people signed and they can't just up and leave

1103
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 2: after every year. It's a year round thing. And now

1104
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 2: it's it's something that to monitor so much. I mean,

1105
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: if you don't play a guy for a couple of

1106
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 2: games because they're being I don't know, a poor participant

1107
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: in practice, whatever, you have.

1108
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 4: To worry about.

1109
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: Okay, in a month from now, is he gonna be

1110
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: thinking about leaving here like, those are the conversations that

1111
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: you have to have. And I think that's why it

1112
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: makes it so fascinating when we look at the teams

1113
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: that are able to turn it around or build it

1114
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: up in one year like a Michigan and the teams

1115
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: that try to do that at Indiana up with Darren

1116
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 2: Devrees and it just doesn't work out like that. And

1117
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: I want to be clear, I'm not saying like they

1118
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: have behavior issues at I you all those guys.

1119
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: Seem like great young men.

1120
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: But boy, when you're able to turn around quickly, you're

1121
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 2: a genius, you're a god, You're all these things. When

1122
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: you're not able to do that, it's like, well should

1123
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: you still be here? So yeah, it's a tough landscape

1124
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: for sure.

1125
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: So let me ask you something, Kevin, because you're more

1126
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: familiar with how the whole thing works there, and I

1127
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: think I am too. But you take a look at Butler,

1128
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: who's looking for a brand new head coach now, and

1129
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: you look at the Big East, which is as competitive

1130
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: as anybody. They got two teams in the final in

1131
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen, right, they got Saint John's and Yukon,

1132
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: who Saint John's is coached by Rick Patino. Now I

1133
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: think we take them legitimately seriously. Oh up, between the

1134
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: coach and the players and what they've done, you kond

1135
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: obviously with Danny Hurley has been tremendous. What kind of coach,

1136
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: realistically do you get at Butler that is going to

1137
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: be able to at some point, at least every few

1138
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: years compete with the Yukons and the Saint John's of

1139
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: the Big East.

1140
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's a hard question because Butler and

1141
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: Saint John's are a Butler and Saint John's or Butler

1142
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: and Yukon. They're just shopping at different stores.

1143
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: Right, And that's that's my question. Okay, if you're looking

1144
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: at head coaches, wouldn't it be a guy like a

1145
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: Chris Holtman who had some success here the last time

1146
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: he was here?

1147
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: Well, again, is it just in the family or I

1148
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 4: don't know, would have been healthy for Butler to have

1149
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: someone out of the family walk in there and say

1150
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: if we're serious about that, Not to the level of

1151
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 4: Kurt Signetti, you know, and walking into Bloomington, but kind

1152
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 4: of like that, if we're gonna be serious about playing

1153
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: in the Big East, then we need to strap up.

1154
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 4: We need to make sure that financially we are doing

1155
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: things at a much different level than we currently are.

1156
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 4: He and is that possible? And would that person be

1157
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: looked at cross side? Does that person have the clout

1158
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 4: to do that? I'm sure Kurt Signetti, you imagine some

1159
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: of the eye rolls that he probably got from home people,

1160
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 4: you know, roll my eyes so hard they almost went to.

1161
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: The floor within that ile like department.

1162
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 4: Can you imagine Signetti walking into your office saying all

1163
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: the stuff that he did and then walking out in

1164
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: the what you're gossiping about behind closed doors? Yeah, after

1165
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: he walks out and then obviously he got the last laugh.

1166
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: So I think Butler's at a big crossloads, not just

1167
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: more from a head coaching standpoint, more from a again,

1168
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 4: what is our financial commitment to this university's basketball program

1169
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 4: in regards to the Big East, Because you kind in

1170
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 4: Saint John's, you know, they're going to Saint Elmo every night.

1171
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 4: They're not going to you know, Wendy's, although I did

1172
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: by choice, though I'd rather go to Wendy's.

1173
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 2: To be honest, I'll well, I ain't going that far,

1174
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: but I love me at Wendy's.

1175
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: Four for four back in high school. I'm telling you

1176
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: I didn't even exist.

1177
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: Still, I'm not getting paid for this. I'm just telling you,

1178
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: Harry and Iszi's it's they can check you.

1179
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: The three ninety nine meals, I used to love those.

1180
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 4: I mean, those are the.

1181
00:52:59,400 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 3: Days, Kevin.

1182
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm telling you much more relaxed, atmospheric arean is He's

1183
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: no stuffiness and the same quality great food. I'll take

1184
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: carry this. He's over stating almost anytime.

1185
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 4: James Anthony Eventeston throwing the football yesterday?

1186
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: Did I see that?

1187
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: You did see that? He posted?

1188
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 4: Was that a culturity out on? Or is that a

1189
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 4: Florida Gators? You know what, I got to go back

1190
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 4: and look at and slow it down.

1191
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't analyze the tape as much as

1192
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: the people in my mentions yesterday. Boy, social media can

1193
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: be a lot. You post what was it? A ten

1194
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: second clip of him making a very routine throw. People

1195
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: were telling me it's the greatest or ever. It's the

1196
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: worst store ever. It's like, boy, the conversation has changed

1197
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: a little bit. But yeah, from what I understand, he

1198
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: still wants a trade and he's just kind of out

1199
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: there and he's getting back to playing football. He did

1200
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: have this caption that I kind of was like, hmmm,

1201
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: he has one day or day one.

1202
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 3: With the question mark.

1203
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: That was one of his captions, and I was thinking

1204
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: to myself, all right, like, you know, is that one

1205
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: of those things where you're still believing in yourself?

1206
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: Are you saying?

1207
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 2: Some fans were like, what do you mean by day one?

1208
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: Like is that week one? And I'm like, I don't

1209
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: want to go that far.

1210
00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: He's not.

1211
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: I don't think that there's a realistic path for Anthony

1212
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: to be the starting quarterback here in Indianapolis. Again, we

1213
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: can actually probably get into that a little bit more.

1214
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: Here's the question.

1215
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: But one thing I want to finish on as far

1216
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: as Anthony, at least he's back out there and throwing

1217
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: in some capacity. I don't even do that for the Colds.

1218
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: But the question most teams probably have is like can

1219
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: you play football? And I'm not saying like at a

1220
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: high level, just can you play it? Can you see

1221
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: well enough to play it? Because the throw he's made

1222
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 2: in that video with the same world you saw in practice.

1223
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: So a question for both of you guys. If he's

1224
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: not traded by then does Anthony Richardson take part in

1225
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: OTAs ye.

1226
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: First off, analyzing captions of younger people, you might as

1227
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 4: well sign me up another hair transplant. I mean, like,

1228
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 4: there's no chance at hell I'm gonna act.

1229
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: We haven't reached the stage of Anthony Richardson changed his

1230
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: profile picture too, my go whatever. He removed this person

1231
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: from his bio.

1232
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: About especially at the college world, it's even crazy.

1233
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: So yesterday the big news was one of the Notre

1234
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: Dame transfers. They had two kids transfer yesterday from basketball program.

1235
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: One of them followed Butler's basketball program immediately, I'll what

1236
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 4: do you read into it?

1237
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 6: I'll one up you so I know we're just talking

1238
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 6: about Hubert Davis. His son is on the team. He

1239
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: posted something yesterday of him and picture him and his dad,

1240
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 6: and he took the North Carolina out of his jersey,

1241
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 6: like photoshopped it out. Like it's just yeah, I'm not

1242
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 6: and I'm a young person, and I'm even like, come on.

1243
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 4: Y'all parenting teenagers, parenting early early college ays. As far

1244
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 4: as Richardson, yeah, I would assume from the Richardson camp

1245
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 4: you would want to be with an organization by mid April,

1246
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 4: like you don't want to miss any sort of springtime.

1247
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 4: Wherever you're at, whether you're here or whether certainly you're elsewhere,

1248
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: you got to learn a playbook, you know. I think

1249
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: for a new quarterback, phase one, in phase two of

1250
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 4: the off season program is really important, even before you

1251
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 4: get to OTA's Ota is Again, just to clarify, that's

1252
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: the actual eleven on eleven period of the spring. So

1253
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 4: that is kind of my next question is, Okay, March

1254
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 4: twenty fifth, the Colts start what their offseason program, James,

1255
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: It's like April twentieth something whatever that Monday is. Yeah,

1256
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 4: so that's three and a half weeks. But I'm looking

1257
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 4: at my calendar correctly here. Okay, so three and a

1258
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: half weeks. That's kind of where I'm at of like,

1259
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 4: all right, just before the draft right now. Again, there's

1260
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 4: part of me in the draft. It's like, are there

1261
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 4: any teams out there that are like, Hey, if we

1262
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 4: don't find the quarterback we kind of are intrigued by

1263
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 4: in round four, then we'll make a move for Richardson.

1264
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: Post draft, you do see that that first week of May,

1265
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: you do kind of see some activity around the league. Hey,

1266
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 4: we went in the draft thinking we were gonna get

1267
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 4: said position. The draft board didn't play out in that manner. Now,

1268
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: let's go back and get you know, didn't the Colts

1269
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: sign like Nick Foles. I think it was in like

1270
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: a May period at some point here. I don't know

1271
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 4: if that's maybe the best analogy. The Colts have signed

1272
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 4: some veteran safeties definitely in that May time period. So

1273
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 4: that's kind of where I'm at with Richardson. I would

1274
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: assume the Colts would want a draft pick this year

1275
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: for him. They don't have a ton of draft picks.

1276
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess they do, but it's more in

1277
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 4: Day three. But I don't know, is there any part

1278
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 4: of the Colts saying, Hey, if we're gonna trade them,

1279
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: why don't we put parameters on the pick? And why

1280
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: don't we say it's a twenty twenty seven draft pick.

1281
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 4: And if Richardson goes to Minnesota or New Orleans and

1282
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 4: he starts eight games, that pick now climbs up to

1283
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: a fourth rounder, Versus if he doesn't meet that playing

1284
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: time threshold, it becomes a fifth rounder. And again I'm

1285
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: just kind of throwing out numbers.

1286
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: All right, we will keep an eye on the Anthony Richardson. Uh,

1287
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: I guess it's the watch. We'll just call it an

1288
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson watch.

1289
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 3: He also posted basketball highlights.

1290
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something about that James right before he's.

1291
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and honestly, Caleb, my first reaction, maybe I'm overthinking.

1292
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: This is just why right, Like you want to be

1293
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: taken seriously, especially at this stage of your career. That's

1294
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: probably not the best look. I'm sure guys are playing

1295
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: basketball pick up basketball, but.

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Speaker 1: We've seen worse things on guys' social media.

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00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: That is true.

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00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: Uh, cooka nkul is somebody who's in a little hot

1299
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: water right now. So I guess Anthony Richardson from that

1300
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: perspective is very pristine.

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00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: Speaking of quarterbacks, does Dana Orlowski hate for Nanda Mendoza?

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00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: Dude, it sounds like it. I mean that was Is

1303
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: it the fact that the guy he's pushing is also

1304
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: a client of an organization he's connected with, So.

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00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 4: Cia I didn't consume all the content, so feel free

1306
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 4: to add to this. He appeared on the patent Acuv

1307
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: Show yesterday. He said something to the effect of he

1308
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 4: texted whatever a dozen NFL people saying Ty Simpson is

1309
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 4: the best quarterback in this draft class. And he said

1310
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 4: only two people responded with disagree.

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00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: Is that correct?

1312
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it might be the only two people that responded.

1313
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: I was gonna say the joke that I got on

1314
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: social media, like the other fifteen gms just didn't respond

1315
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: at all.

1316
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: But I think in college, hey, shoot and shoot KB,

1317
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: I think you've done pretty well for yourself.

1318
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 4: Backwards, k ain't getting you anywhere right exactly.

1319
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: But you got you got to you got the ultimate prize.

1320
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 4: You're ultimate prize gratification, right is always says shout.

1321
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 3: Out, shout out, Maddie.

1322
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: But in all seriousness, when I look at what I

1323
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: don't know, like, how would I describe it? Like the

1324
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: way he talked about Franana Mendoza and he questioned his

1325
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 2: ability to play in big games to an extent because

1326
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: they were going back and forth, and Pat's like, okay,

1327
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: well in these big games he played so well and

1328
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: he's like he legitimately asked the question what big games,

1329
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: and Darius Butler had to scream off screen the college

1330
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: football playoffs, like if we get to a point, and

1331
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: if I ever get to this point, please just boot

1332
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: me off the air, where I dismiss the biggest part

1333
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: of the season and try to nitpick, like what's a

1334
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: big game when literally everyone's trying to hoist that trophy

1335
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: at the end, what are we doing? I mean, you

1336
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: can say you have Ty Simpson number one, but keep

1337
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: it to like football things, don't.

1338
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 4: Try to do you think he's lying about the NFL

1339
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 4: people and how many people texted him back.

1340
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's enough for him to

1341
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: have a take like that and he's going to the

1342
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: wall with it. That's what I think.

1343
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 4: Like, I don't want to put him in Stephen A.

1344
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 4: Smith and Skip Bayless category, right. I mean not that

1345
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 4: I consume everything Dan Orlofsky's saying, but it feels a

1346
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 4: little bit of that. It does like when I saw

1347
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: it and when I, you know whatever, read a little

1348
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: bit about it. But hey, look you can have some

1349
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 4: questions about whatever. Mendoza being a slam dunk. I thought

1350
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 4: it was interesting in the combine when Daden Briugler joined

1351
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 4: US James he mentioned if arch Manny was in this

1352
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 4: draft class, and I Dane does not strike me as

1353
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 4: anybody hot takey like we would be having a real

1354
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 4: conversation about who would go one, which again surprises some

1355
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 4: people given you know how arch man he played football

1356
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 4: last year.

1357
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 3: Maybe not given his last name, but.

1358
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole. Yeah, I not that I watch every

1359
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: Alabama game, but Ty Simpson over Fernanda Mendoza. Yeah, so it.

1360
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: And then he posted outside this real quick and I'm

1361
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: gona get to the checkdown. But then he posted this thing,

1362
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: you know, kindness is free, some like sign you would

1363
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: see in a floral shop or something.

1364
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: Is this Hubert Davis a son?

1365
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: And in my mind, I'm thinking to myself, you did

1366
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: this to yourself.

1367
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I've been in that.

1368
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: Position where I never want to be the main character

1369
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: on social media because that means he says something very

1370
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: stupid and everyone's.

1371
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: Piling on to you. But that I mean you you

1372
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: earned it, so stand on it.

1373
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: Don't don't do the whole Oh everyone's being mean to

1374
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 2: me thing after you say something really dumb.

1375
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 6: That's not And I will just say, that's not the

1376
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 6: first time he's pulled that.

1377
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: It's a pattern, crocodile, It's here is baby.

1378
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 4: I ain't falling for it. All right, let's get to

1379
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 4: the checkdown.

1380
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: Will start with the NBA, the Indiana Pacers, fresh off

1381
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: snapping that losing streak. James back at home the night

1382
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: to take on the Lakers over at the Fieldhouse. Seven

1383
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 1: o'clock tip six thirty year time in ninety three, five

1384
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: and one oh seven to five the fan Andrew Nemhart,

1385
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Nee Smith, Pascal siakam Obi topping what they have

1386
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: in common for tonight's game, James Boyd. They're all probable, right,

1387
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: They're all probable to play in that game tonight. The

1388
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: Lakers injury report questionable for Adu Thierro Ruyachimura and Marcus Smart.

1389
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: They are. Marcus Smart is doubtful, the other two questionable.

1390
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: Hey, as long as Lebron James and Luka Doncics are playing,

1391
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: I think a lot of probably Lakers transplants will be

1392
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: a game of chortthhouse.

1393
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: But a chance to.

1394
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: Another win, push it to two, spoil the party for

1395
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: old man James.

1396
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: So luc and Lebron are good. They didn't golf too much.

1397
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 4: An ending yesterday.

1398
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: Yesterday, is this the last time we ever seen Lebron

1399
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: James at the field House?

1400
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 4: Certainly a question, you know, I guess maybe more from

1401
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 4: a playing standpoint, but you know, as James pointed out yesterday,

1402
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 4: Lebron strikes me as an individual that probably will want

1403
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: to announce said retirement and maybe go on a little

1404
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 4: bit of a tour here.

1405
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: So exactly the gift that the Pacers give him next

1406
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: year during his final run will be great. And by

1407
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: the gift, I mean nothing. Could you imagine.

1408
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: Purdue getting ready for the Sweet sixteen that comes your

1409
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: way tomorrow against Texas. They'll be in San Jose and

1410
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: Matt Painter has been talking about his team and what

1411
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: they've been doing lately, and a lot of discussion around

1412
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: Fletcher Lawyer. And you know, someone was talking to a

1413
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: J and B about this last night. It was Tom Crean.

1414
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: I was listening to that conversation and they were saying

1415
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: that Fletcher Lawyer is not the best defender one on one,

1416
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: but he plays so well within the team game and

1417
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: gets people to where they need to be that what

1418
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: he does on defense has lifted purdues overall ability to

1419
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: defend the basket, which I thought was a very fascinating take.

1420
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a.

1421
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: Good personal and again we're not asking you to be

1422
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: you know, big ten all defense, but have some pride

1423
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 2: in it, you know, communicate and it's worked out well

1424
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: for them. I think their defense has been a lot

1425
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: different than what we've seen earlier this year.

1426
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: All right, so that comes your way seven to ten

1427
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: Thursday from San Jose. It'll be Texas and Purdue in

1428
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen Marion night, they claimed their first NAIA

1429
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: women's basketball championship since twenty seventeen. They beat Dort seventy

1430
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: three sixty one. Anybody want to take a shot, cayleb

1431
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: but the nickname for Dort, I have no clue. I

1432
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: got nothing, James.

1433
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: The Dort Dalmatians close. They're losers last night. That's all

1434
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: I know.

1435
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: Got a big, big hat with an elg on.

1436
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: The FROs elbow from rock back in the day.

1437
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: They defeated the Dort Defenders seventy three sixty one. Madison

1438
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: Bailey led the Knights with twenty three points. Macy Severs

1439
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: and Gracie Schunovn each had fifteen points. For the Defenders.

1440
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: They were thirty four and three overall, but Marion finished

1441
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: one better at thirty five.

1442
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 4: Shout out to Kenna Kirby. I hope I'm saying that

1443
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 4: first name right. Her brother chimed in yesterday mentioned that

1444
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 4: he was listening out there of the tri West product.

1445
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: She was very good last night for Marion. You mentioned

1446
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: Madison Bailey. She played every minute. They got twenty three

1447
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 4: or twenty four points, so down at half. But they're

1448
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: partying on Cold Spring Road. They're partying at Coffin Golf

1449
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 4: Course today. Shout out to Marion.

1450
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Nights. There no new news for the

1451
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Do we expect anything before the owners and

1452
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: then the league gets together next week in Florida?

1453
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: Not necessarily from my perspective, but I'm very excited to

1454
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: talk to Carla Ursa Gordon and Chris Ballad and Shane

1455
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: Stick can just kind of figure out how do you

1456
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: all view what has been, in my opinion.

1457
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: An underwhelming free agency period.

1458
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: Now the offseason isn't over, but there's a lot of

1459
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: questions to be answered, and I think a lot of

1460
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,479
Speaker 2: holes to be filled within the roster.

1461
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: All right, as far as anything else is going on

1462
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: with football is concerned, Indiana hits the field again tomorrow.

1463
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 4: Kevin, Yeah, spring football for them underway, Kurtz SIGNETI will

1464
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 4: meet the media coming up tomorrow. They're back from spring break.

1465
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 4: I believe they'll have their spring game and it's a

1466
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 4: very late spring game, typically with Kurt Signetti.

1467
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 3: April twenty third.

1468
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 4: I want to say I did see CBS Sports Matt

1469
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 4: and Orlander College Basketball Rider just reported. Uh, this is

1470
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 4: probably the hundredth time that this report has come out

1471
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 4: in the last decade of Brad Stevens has removed himself

1472
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 4: from any North Carolina consideration. How many times do you

1473
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: think Brad Stevens has received such a text in his

1474
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 4: life about pursuing a college basketball head coaching gig.

1475
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: Probably at least five times since he's left.

1476
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 4: Five five hundred has done it five times?

1477
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 2: Well, I was kind of like the different programs, but yeah,

1478
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 2: if you're going like the amount of times and he

1479
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: probably what twenty and it was this he's left.

1480
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 4: I mean, just like it's abated. He should have like

1481
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 4: hot keywords of like would Google have consideration? Would you

1482
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 4: do you want to talk? And it just should be

1483
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 4: automatic Nos, like.

1484
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 3: The out of office email you get right if.

1485
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: You go if you don't recognize the number, you just

1486
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: get a standard message. That's that's the way to go.

1487
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: You know you're in trouble when you're trying to call

1488
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: someone you really want to talk to h and goes

1489
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: straight to voicemail.

1490
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 3: Shout out to my mom. That happens to her often.

1491
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: You send your mom to voicemail all the time.

1492
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: No, no, she sends me to voicemail.

1493
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's even better.

1494
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,959
Speaker 3: Mamano answered the phone.

1495
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: I told her if I would go on the game

1496
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: show and they say, who's your emergency contact?

1497
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 3: You are not the answer.

1498
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: One of my favorite lines of Sports Illustrated, Uh, somebody

1499
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: might have been Rick Riley did a long form piece

1500
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: on Fred Couples when he was just running the table

1501
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 1: back in the late nineties in golf, and they talked

1502
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: about him being so shy that he doesn't answer the

1503
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: phone at home, and they asked him why. He said

1504
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: someone might be on the other end.

1505
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: That's a good one, all right.

1506
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment, we'll talk Pacers basketball and

1507
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: more with Tony East as we continue The Fan Morning

1508
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: show ninety three five one oh seven to five the Fan.

1509
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Speaker 1: We have not talked a ton of NBA basketball so

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Speaker 1: far this morning on this Wednesday at ninety three five

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Speaker 1: one oh seven five the Fan. Well, we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: about the Pacers who return home to the Fieldhouse a

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Speaker 1: little bit later on tonight. I was noticing last night,

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Speaker 1: in this never ending season of just outstanding offensive performances,

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Speaker 1: we've seen We've seen eighty plus points, we've seen sixty

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Speaker 1: plus points, We've seen crazy stat lines across the board.

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Speaker 1: Nuggets won in Phoenix last night. Yok, it's so normal

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Speaker 1: now twenty three, seventeen and seventeen from a center. It's

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Speaker 1: just nuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is one of the greatest basketball players to

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Speaker 2: ever live, and he's still in his prime.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk more NBA and Pacers in particular. We bring

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Speaker 1: in our next guest, Tony East on the Paylesslookers Hotline. Tony,

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Speaker 1: of course, one of the premiere Pacers writers at several

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Speaker 1: different places, and we appreciate his time here today. Tony,

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Speaker 1: good morning. What is it with the NBA that we're

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Speaker 1: just seeing, night after night after night, just unbelievable stat

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Speaker 1: lines and offensive outputs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, gosh, yok, it's the last night was crazy game

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Speaker 8: winner two almost blew it, leaving Devin Booker wide open

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Speaker 8: right after. But the scoreboard says that what look, the March.

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Speaker 8: NBA is like this every year, like there are so

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Speaker 8: many teams that aren't playing for anything, or they're seedings

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Speaker 8: locked up, or somebody's heard or something that there's a

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Speaker 8: lot of non competitive games or not good defensive teams,

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Speaker 8: and look what you get when that happens. A lot

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Speaker 8: of really high scoring games and a lot of blowouts. Thankfully,

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Speaker 8: Nuggets Suns was not one of the blowouts. But there's

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Speaker 8: a lot of a lot less watchable basketball this time

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Speaker 8: of year.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA Circle City Spin, where you can find

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Speaker 4: Tony East's work and we always appreciate his insight when

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Speaker 4: he hops on these airways. Is it ten games left, Tony?

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Speaker 8: Is that right on the dot?

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Speaker 4: Yes, tend to go and fans can cheer for what

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Speaker 4: three wins? If you go north to three, then you

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Speaker 4: start to sweat lottery odds? Is that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Three would give right now?

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Speaker 8: There are three wins behind the Kings, who are the

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Speaker 8: fourth worst record, and the you know that's the lottery

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Speaker 8: ending is for. But the top three are the teams

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Speaker 8: to end with fifty two percent chance at top four pick,

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Speaker 8: and then the fourth pick it goes to forty eight.

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Speaker 8: So if the Pacers want to maximize their odds of

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Speaker 8: keeping the pick, fewer than three wins guarantees that three wins.

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Speaker 8: They did the Kings to win once and there is

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Speaker 8: a King's next game next Sunday or this coming Sunday,

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Speaker 8: so three is probably safe, but two or less as

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Speaker 8: a guarantee.

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Speaker 4: Get Pacers Lakers tonight looks like really all the front

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Speaker 4: line players for both teams that are available should be

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Speaker 4: played in this game.

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Speaker 3: Lebron and Luca included in that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's shift gears a little bit of the draft,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think the NBA draft has taught us

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Speaker 4: over the years trying to force a position is a

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Speaker 4: bit risky, a bit greedy. It is simply you need

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Speaker 4: to take best player available. What if that best player

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Speaker 4: available is Darius Acuff.

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Speaker 8: I can't imagine the Pacers take a tiny guard, right,

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Speaker 8: I mean, has he been that pantilizing in the tournament

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Speaker 8: that people view him over Darren Peterson and Cam Boozer

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Speaker 8: and and aj Now is that a thing?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 4: I think that that's part of it. But I also

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Speaker 4: think my hand is raised here. We which is weird

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Speaker 4: to say, we probably didn't do a good enough job

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Speaker 4: paying attention to him in the SEC regular season, Like

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of this was happening. I think,

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Speaker 4: and again my hand is raised, we just kind of

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Speaker 4: forced ourselves into the oh it's a four person draft thing.

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Speaker 4: Now do you disagree on the first part, like foreseen,

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Speaker 4: positional whatever, need over best player available?

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Speaker 8: I guess no, no, no, I am a best player

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Speaker 8: available guy. Now what it mostly reason? I mean we

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Speaker 8: were all around for them picking Goga when they had

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Speaker 8: Turner and Tibonas and then they would play Kyle O'Quinn

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Speaker 8: and Jakar Sampson over him and he never played and

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Speaker 8: got cut. You know, like within if you if you

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Speaker 8: are loaded at a position, I suppose it's a little different,

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Speaker 8: but especially with a top four pick, which is what

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Speaker 8: they're you know, if they have a pick they're going

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Speaker 8: to have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you pick the best guy.

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Speaker 8: And you know, I think TJ McConnell was their only

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Speaker 8: player who was on the Pacers five years ago that

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Speaker 8: is still on the team now. Maybe you know that's it,

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Speaker 8: and uh, you know, your team just changes so much.

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Speaker 8: And I gets that's different when you're a winner and

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Speaker 8: you're trying to retain your talent. But with the way

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Speaker 8: the NBA is with roster turnover, like you just never

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Speaker 8: know if you're picking for fit now your team might

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Speaker 8: look different at the time. So yes, I think you

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Speaker 8: pick the best guy and try to figure it out.

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Speaker 8: But I do understand the Pacers in their current specific

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Speaker 8: situation caring a little bit more about fit to the

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Speaker 8: average team picking in the top four ward because they're

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Speaker 8: a contender in theory right now next season, right like,

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Speaker 8: they need contributors right this second. So if they believe

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Speaker 8: one of the four is going to be very good

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Speaker 8: and can help them the most right now, perhaps that

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Speaker 8: is a little bit of a booster. That's not a

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Speaker 8: huge deal, and I do not think that's a cup

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Speaker 8: for them, especially at the time where small guards are

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Speaker 8: not very popular in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Let's say again we're talking to Tony East.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to him on Locked on Pacers as

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Speaker 2: well subscribed to a Circle City Spin where you get

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Speaker 2: Pacers and Fever coverage in the same outlet. Tony, when

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Speaker 2: I look at this Pacer season, and obviously it's been rough.

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Speaker 2: It's been without Tyre's Halliburton, but he's also had some

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Speaker 2: weird things happened off the court with the shingles, and

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Speaker 2: we haven't had an update since I think last time

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Speaker 2: you might have been on how's he doing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he has been back with the team, but not

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Speaker 8: on the bench this time. We asked for Carlisle about

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Speaker 8: that in Milwaukee. I believe I can't remember one of

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Speaker 8: their recent road games. You know, it's a longer like

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Speaker 8: thing coming back from shingles, right and it did disrupt

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Speaker 8: his rehab to some extent, like you can't be back

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Speaker 8: on the floor right away, So his schedule's got a

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Speaker 8: little changed by that. But I would assume if he's

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Speaker 8: back with the team that yes, he is back on

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Speaker 8: the floor and able to do at least some things.

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Speaker 8: But who knows the specific reason he's not on the bench,

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Speaker 8: whether it's some level of contagion, if it can still spread,

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Speaker 8: or if there's a rash involved or anything like that.

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Speaker 8: But we have not seen him since. But he is,

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Speaker 8: according to Rick, back with the team now, so I'd

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Speaker 8: presume his rehab schedules back.

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Speaker 1: Is planned totally. We know every injury, even if it

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Speaker 1: sounds the same, as a little bit unique and different

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Speaker 1: to the individual who suffered it. But do you take

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Speaker 1: anything from the return that the fairly early return by

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum and way he's been playing basketball and what

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Speaker 1: the Celtics have been doing since he rejoined the team,

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Speaker 1: is that optimistic for Tyrese Haliburton, who will get a

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Speaker 1: lot more time to rest and recover and heal than

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Speaker 1: Tatum did.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's so many data points with Achilles recoveries, and

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Speaker 8: Tatum's is a fun another one now that he came

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Speaker 8: back and I think like ten months like they're saying,

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Speaker 8: And what was unique about him is he got hurt

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Speaker 8: in New York City like they're playing the Knicks the

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Speaker 8: night it happened, So he was able to have his

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Speaker 8: surgery really fast. And there's been a lot of really

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Speaker 8: good stories written out of Bustin about how the early

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Speaker 8: him getting the surgery so early was very helpful for

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Speaker 8: his rehab timeline, perhaps being faster than some previous players

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Speaker 8: who come back from the same injury and low and behold,

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Speaker 8: he's back and he you know, he's trying to dunk

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Speaker 8: in his first half back on the floor and things

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Speaker 8: like that. You know, it has been I think a

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Speaker 8: little impressive that he's tried to keep his lifts to

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Speaker 8: the level he has and play that way.

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Speaker 3: And the Celtics look.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good this season. But you know, Kevin Durant has been.

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Speaker 8: The guy that everybody points to as the best post

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Speaker 8: Achilles return ever, and his skill set specifically doesn't require

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Speaker 8: as much like push and lift and things like that.

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Speaker 8: But what made his return unique is he took a

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Speaker 8: full season off and then there was a long offseason

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Speaker 8: because the next season he till he returned and start

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Speaker 8: till December. But you know that long gap might have

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Speaker 8: been helpful for him, right So you wonder with Haliburn

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Speaker 8: what the all those kind of contrasting things are in

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Speaker 8: terms of how it will help. And his game does

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Speaker 8: require a lot of speed and push and lift.

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Speaker 4: And things like that.

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Speaker 8: You know, I'm not saying he's going to come back

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Speaker 8: and be the same player like Durrant was, but you

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Speaker 8: wonder how.

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Speaker 6: That gap could help.

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Speaker 8: But Tatum is playing well because Jante Murray took over

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Speaker 8: a year. He looks awesome right now. The Pelicans look

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Speaker 8: really good. Tatum actually has been struggling with his jumper

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Speaker 8: a little bit. If his athleticism didn't look the same,

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Speaker 8: I think there'd be more of a concern and talk

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Speaker 8: about that. And the Celtics are playing really.

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Speaker 4: Well, so I think that.

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Speaker 8: Of course, in recent years, the recovery from the injury

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Speaker 8: has gotten better to the point that you know it

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Speaker 8: used to be much more damaging for players, which would

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Speaker 8: be concerning for the Pacers. But I think he's still

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Speaker 8: going to be at least very good next season, and

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Speaker 8: a lot of these guys returning the season have shown that.

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Speaker 4: Tony East with the Serier Paylostokers hotline against Circle City Spin,

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Speaker 4: where you can find Tony's work. Last one from me,

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Speaker 4: it looks like Benedict Matherin is going to return from

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Speaker 4: his toe injury tonight. The Pacers host mister Matherin and

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Speaker 4: the Clippers coming up on Friday. It'll be his first

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Speaker 4: game back inside a Gamebridge Field House. How would you

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Speaker 4: compare the anticipated response from the crowd to Benedict Matherin

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Speaker 4: to Miles Turner from earlier this season.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's completely off the injury report for them tonight,

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Speaker 8: I believe, which is a good sign for him playing

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Speaker 8: on Friday. Look, it's always different when the player chooses

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Speaker 8: to leave versus the team chooses for them to leave

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Speaker 8: in this instance, but that's going to help Ben Matheren

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Speaker 8: quite a bit. I presume he'll get good cheers for

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Speaker 8: being the sixth man of their best season.

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Speaker 4: And in franchise history.

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Speaker 8: And you know, was at one point viewed as like, Wow, what.

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Speaker 4: Could this guy be?

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Speaker 8: The statue Kevin Bowen, right, I actually built by Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean he was viewed as that level of guy

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Speaker 8: after his I mean multiple times throughout his time with

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Speaker 8: the Pacers, but especially after his rookie year when he

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Speaker 8: was drawn a gazillion valves a game. So, you know,

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Speaker 8: a popular fan favorite, and he's playing very well for

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Speaker 8: the Clippers. That tempo suits him better. I think that

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01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 8: whole team environment suits him very well. So I think

1723
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 8: he's gonna try to score a million points and I

1724
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 8: think he'll be well received.

1725
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 4: For it, him and them hart at some point, you.

1726
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 8: Know, it wasn't like that in La.

1727
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,879
Speaker 4: I know it was kind of tame in La. Benedick

1728
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:40,799
Speaker 4: was honestly just cooking.

1729
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 8: I mean, he's gonna say he just let his game

1730
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 8: speak and scored a bunch.

1731
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 4: He played very well.

1732
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 8: But yeah, I don't I don't think there'll be anything

1733
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 8: like that necessarily. But it is different when it's in

1734
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 8: it's in Andy. It's kind of a bummer that Zubots

1735
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 8: can't play against the Clippers this season too, for that

1736
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,879
Speaker 8: game to to really have some spice.

1737
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 2: Do you think Benick is gonna accidentally try to walk

1738
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: to the wrong locker rooms.

1739
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: Muscle memory gonna throw them off.

1740
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1741
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 8: I've only heard of one or two players have that

1742
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 8: happen to them, But it is always confusing when all

1743
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 8: of a sudden.

1744
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, where am I going? What am I doing?

1745
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 8: Him and Isaiah will have to keep each other, you know,

1746
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 8: in line, figure out where to go in the building.

1747
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 4: And Isaiah Jackson's been getting a little bit more clock.

1748
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 4: He actually played a decent amount, I guess the first

1749
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 4: game injury, but he's been getting a little bit more

1750
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 4: clock right for him.

1751
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he's playing kind of well. Yannick coden Ederhauser

1752
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 8: got hurt in that game against the Pacers. He's been

1753
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 8: their backup center ever since. And this actually looks pretty good.

1754
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 8: Another Achilles data point that it took him a little

1755
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 8: bit at the beginning of the season, but his athleticism

1756
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 8: is mostly back to pre Achilles levels. Albeit he's only

1757
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 8: twenty three or twenty four years old. But yeah, he

1758
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 8: looks pretty good for them right now.

1759
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: Tony East. You can read his stuff at Circle City Spin,

1760
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: you can read it at Forbes Sports, and you can

1761
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: also hear him on Lockdown Pacers. You can hear him

1762
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: with us every week or so right here at ninety

1763
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: two five one or seven five. Thanks Tony, always appreciate it.

1764
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 4: Yep, thanks guys.

1765
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: There you go coming up at a moment, we'll talk

1766
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 1: the Purdue boiler Makers getting ready for Texas and the

1767
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen. Take some of your thoughts and phone calls

1768
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: as well. Two three, nine, ten seventy on the fan

1769
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: text line. It's next to ninety three five and one

1770
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 1: oh seven five the fan just giving James time to

1771
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: get the post there. Yeah, you're sucking that one in, Jeff.

1772
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: This is on the high School Playlist, Kevin, I told you,

1773
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: I believe every high school in state of Indiana has

1774
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 2: never updated their media after like two thousand and six,

1775
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: and so this is one of those songs. I feel

1776
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: like it is still somewhere in the pregame archives.

1777
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 4: Do we go all the way to Kanye's part or

1778
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 4: do we stop short?

1779
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: I think we'm o starstar of Kanye's Park. Kanye is

1780
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 2: an interesting fellow these days.

1781
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I be able to rattle off every lyric. I'm

1782
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 4: not sure if I can not sure if I'm super

1783
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 4: proud of that.

1784
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 1: Well, you probably wont a little kesher, right.

1785
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 4: Kesha on tour by the way coming to Indianapolis. So

1786
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 4: if we want to do a show outing for Cashe

1787
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 4: coming out the Freedom Tour, cannot wait?

1788
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: How about we do a beers with Bowen leading up

1789
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: up to the Kasha Khans.

1790
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do a lot

1791
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: more than just beers if we're going to.

1792
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 2: Well, Jeff mentioned this, and he said that during the break,

1793
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 2: you know, you have these artists that had like the

1794
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 2: childhood hits that we had. We don't want to hear

1795
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 2: the new music. No love you play the bangers, play

1796
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: the Bankers, I know you.

1797
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 4: Got from my new soundtrack. I don't want to hear that.

1798
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 3: Just just stick to this.

1799
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: Is like you know, Tim duncan stick to the bank

1800
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 2: shot Bred but three of Abdul Jabbar, the Skyhook, it

1801
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: serves you well, keep doing it.

1802
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: See, I don't mind if they play one or two

1803
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: things to promote the upcoming album. I think that's fair right,

1804
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 1: because they want to keep moving and evolving. But the

1805
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: reason everybody paid all that money to go in there

1806
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 1: is to listen to the stuff that they've grown used

1807
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: to listening the stuff too Exactly. Let's let's go.

1808
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: You bring up the Tim Duncan fundamentals, James, I'm always

1809
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 4: struck by this every time I watch Purdue. The Trey

1810
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 4: Kaufman Wren shot put will never not create an uneasy

1811
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: moment in my brain. As he starts to elevate for that,

1812
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, there's no way it's going in, right, and

1813
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 4: then it goes in.

1814
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1815
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: He has the demeanor of Tim Duncan too, where he's

1816
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: very low key. But boy, he is just a beast

1817
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: in the post. I always think, too, Kevin like beside

1818
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: a little shot put.

1819
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 4: But it's like me dancing at my wedding. It's not

1820
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,520
Speaker 4: aesthetically pleasing.

1821
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 3: No, but you know what I think is also not pleasing.

1822
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: When he takes his left shoulder and.

1823
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: Drives it into your chest right, I mean, my goodness,

1824
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 2: you have to have some weight to battle with that

1825
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: d because he will like move you, he will displace

1826
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 2: you and then go score.

1827
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 4: I do love and he doesn't now like about once

1828
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 4: a game when he leans on you with that left

1829
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 4: shoulder and then he throws the spin move in there.

1830
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 4: Wait when he does that, he doesn't happen often. Yeah,

1831
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 4: but man, that guy defended him. Looks over the bench

1832
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 4: is like I thought you told me to sit on

1833
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 4: the left shoulder and boom, he gets that spin move going.

1834
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 4: Texas does have a legit, big dude. I'm not gonna

1835
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 4: try to pronounce his name, but watch them in the

1836
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 4: early rounds. He is a pretty quality and that's what's

1837
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 4: left for Purdue. We talked about earlier in the show.

1838
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 4: They're favored by whatever. Seven tonight or seven tomorrow night.

1839
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 4: You know after tonight you're gonna be playing. You're gonna

1840
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 4: be an underdog every game the rest of the season.

1841
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 4: Vegas will have you as an underdog.

1842
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: They like that, don't they?

1843
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 4: The rest of the way.

1844
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: I think teams like being the underdog. Nobody believes it does,

1845
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 1: have you.

1846
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: They told us we can't win this kid, are you

1847
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: georg when Georgia won the national championship and the guys like,

1848
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: some guys.

1849
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 4: That we've only won six games this year, and it's like,

1850
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 4: you're in Georgia. Could we ever have a coach say

1851
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 4: I don't like being the underdog. You only hear people

1852
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 4: say I like being the underdog. When does a coach

1853
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 4: and say no, I'd rather have more talent. I'd rather

1854
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 4: be the favorite. You never rather be the one that

1855
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 4: everyone thinks gonna win. I'd rather walk into that arena

1856
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 4: with you know, MJ and Pippen than Bowen and Boyd.

1857
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, m J and Pippen. Well, Pippen right

1858
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: now is tripping. You might want me to be more

1859
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: of the cheerleader for Michael Jordan than Scottie Pippen currently

1860
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: he's illusional. But anyways, when you look at those types

1861
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: of coaches who might do that, I think Mick Cronan

1862
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: is like number one on that list. I feel like

1863
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 2: he'd be wild enough to say something like that, just

1864
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 2: give me the good players. I don't want to be

1865
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: a loser. I want to be underdog on the top dog.

1866
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 6: He said he needed five million dollars?

1867
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: Is that what he said? After press? Like he's the gimme.

1868
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 3: He is wild enough to say anything.

1869
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 4: Again, I think this is a good era for failing

1870
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 4: coaches because you can play the money card. Well, you

1871
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 4: can just say we don't have enough resources and do

1872
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 4: any of us really know that?

1873
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 6: You know?

1874
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 4: Like this is not like the salary cap in other.

1875
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 3: Sports, Yeah, where it's just open to everybody, Like.

1876
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 4: In Major League Baseball when the Oakland A's manager comes

1877
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 4: out and says, we don't have enough money. You're kind

1878
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 4: of like, yeah, you're right. And nowadays it's just like

1879
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 4: everybody just says it, Ah, I don't have enough money.

1880
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 4: Resources aren't very good, and a lot of times they're

1881
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 4: not wrong. To be clear, Now, I don't know the

1882
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 4: validity of McK cronan here, but yeah, I think that's

1883
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 4: the new day and age of like, boy, that's the

1884
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 4: easiest excuse in America right now. If you're a failing

1885
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 4: college sports coach, you just say, look at the money

1886
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 4: or have it.

1887
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 6: Or you have to hire a GM that buys you

1888
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 6: another year too. It's like, if we don't have a GM, like, hey,

1889
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 6: we need to make some space for a GM to

1890
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 6: get here.

1891
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: We can figure out the players that I wanted. He

1892
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: didn't listen to me.

1893
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 6: Right now we can That's how you buy another year too,

1894
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 6: is you like, you know, I guarantee you that's what

1895
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 6: Kentucky's gonna do.

1896
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,839
Speaker 1: They don't have one. Mark Pope's gonna.

1897
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's hiring some dude from b YU, right or absolutely?

1898
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll ever get to a point where

1899
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: the salaries of players are disclosed not there's.

1900
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: A range we think this.

1901
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll get to a point where we

1902
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: know every team's budget and what every player is getting paid.

1903
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 4: It's a great question.

1904
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:43,799
Speaker 3: I think we should.

1905
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 4: I hope. I know that gets into a dangerous game,

1906
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 4: but hell, it's already pretty dangerous. I don't know if

1907
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 4: it's happening very soon, James, but I think from some

1908
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 4: sort of collective bargaining. You know, they are employees of

1909
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 4: the school, you can sign them to multi year your contracts.

1910
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 3: I think all of that needs to happen.

1911
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I'm like, you can look up a university

1912
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 2: professor in their salary. That is public information. Especially go

1913
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: to a public school. So if you're at a public university,

1914
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: I kind of want to know what the top guys

1915
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 2: are getting paid.

1916
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 4: And I get it. You're gonna hear you know, mental health,

1917
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 4: and you're gonna hear all this, and you're gonna I mean,

1918
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a day, it's gonna be a much

1919
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 4: more dangerous definitely.

1920
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: To that end, everybody's favorite coach, Tommy Tubberville turned senator

1921
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: UH He's introduced the Student Athlete Act, setting a five

1922
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: year eligibility window for college athletes. Allows one penalty free

1923
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: transfer and requires a full year sit out for any

1924
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: more than one. He'd like to make that a law.

1925
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 4: I think I can get behind that. So you get

1926
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 4: one free transfer and transld transfer rule would apply after that.

1927
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to sit out of your now again.

1928
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 4: I can hear people counter and say, well, you know,

1929
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 4: Darren Devrees, you said the well Darren Devrees went from

1930
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 4: what drake West Virginia and I you and a four

1931
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 4: year span. Yeah, you know, he obviously would all by it,

1932
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 4: and so I like that though. I think that would

1933
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 4: provide a little bit more of roster continuity, allow you

1934
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 4: to build a little bit more. Yeah, I think that

1935
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 4: would be healthy.

1936
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,560
Speaker 1: The question is, though, if you've now made these guys employees,

1937
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 1: are you limiting their employment choices? And is that legal?

1938
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: This is wow.

1939
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: I don't want everyone to go into the political side

1940
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 2: of college sports because boy, the questions are endless. That's

1941
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: a tough job, honestly. But the NCAA can blame themselves

1942
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: because they waited forever to pay guys.

1943
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 1: How about how did this the NCAA feel about the

1944
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: Senate trying to tell them what they can and do

1945
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 1: with their rules? Aren't we at war? With somebody right now.

1946
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 3: College basketball is just nuts.

1947
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: It is the sport where I feel like we can

1948
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: argue the most about so many different things, and it's

1949
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,560
Speaker 2: probably why I love it.

1950
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the world of sports.

1951
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,799
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment, we'll check in on college basketball.

1952
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: Our good friend Jordan corn that stops by to tell

1953
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 1: us more about Purdue, the NC Double A and all

1954
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: the things we were just talking about. We'll continue next

1955
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: at ninety three five and one on seven five to fan.

1956
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: I have a look, Kevin, have you seen what the

1957
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: over under for this game is? You got Texas average

1958
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 1: and eighty three points a game perdue eighty two points

1959
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 1: a game. This kid, just don't think it was going

1960
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: to wear you out.

1961
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it was as high as some

1962
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 4: of the others like Michigan Bama. I want to say

1963
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 4: it's pretty high, one forty eight and a half, but

1964
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 4: like Arizona, Arkansas won sixty six and a half coming

1965
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 4: up tomorrow night there so that is a huge one.

1966
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 3: Miami or Michigan Bama.

1967
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 4: One's seventy four there so, yeah, it looks like the

1968
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 4: third highest of the eight Sweet sixteen teams right there.

1969
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:45,959
Speaker 1: You're looking forward to see Campden Heidi.

1970
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 4: Sure storyline, Yeah, I mean there's part of me it's

1971
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 4: kind of curious, you know, what you match up at

1972
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 4: all with Braidon Smith. If you're trying to get some

1973
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 4: length on to Braden Smith there, you know, would that

1974
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 4: be an option at all? For those that I've been

1975
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: following the Cam Heidi story. He's starting for Texas. He

1976
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 4: doesn't play a ton of minutes, but that's pretty much

1977
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 4: been his role there, and of course he had a huge,

1978
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 4: huge shot to Ice that went over again Zaga Allah.

1979
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 4: Very similar to what we saw against Houston last year,

1980
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 4: although Houston won definitely a little bit more closely guarded

1981
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 4: in that one. So yeah, I'll be curious just to

1982
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 4: see how that plays out. Seems like Purdue, you know,

1983
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 4: understands it. Cam heid he got quite the significant pay

1984
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 4: raise to go be at Texas.

1985
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: Really though, I think there'll be more concerned with Dalon Swain,

1986
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: who at six eight, just he's an interesting matchup problems

1987
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: for bigger guys because of his quickness and obviously at

1988
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: six eight he's a little quicker than the big big guys,

1989
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: but he's also a better rebatter bit stronger, better defender

1990
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: than the sixty six sixty seven guys. He creates a problem.

1991
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 3: James, absolutely, I just can't wait for the game.

1992
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I love talking about this stuff, but boy,

1993
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 2: I think to kevin'swin from earlier in the week, I'm

1994
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 2: past the not relief because I'm not a diehard Purdue fan,

1995
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 2: but I guess I'm past the Okay, they've made it

1996
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 2: this far to I went to tip.

1997
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: Off seven ten tomorrow night.

1998
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 3: It could be at seventeen am and I'll be locked in.

1999
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:17,759
Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about Titus until this tournament.

2000
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: I started watching the Texas games. The problem, man, he

2001
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: is he's pretty good. Yeah, no, he's a problem.

2002
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: I think he's somebody who's definitely gonna be at top

2003
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: this guiding report.

2004
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 3: That's for sure.

2005
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,759
Speaker 1: Sixty two percent from the floor is averaging almost sixteen

2006
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: points a game. But he moves well. I'm surprised how

2007
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: well he moved and was able to operate, you know,

2008
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: in close spaces down low. So it's and then we

2009
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: see Trement trayman mark. Remember he hit the game winner

2010
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,919
Speaker 1: in the playing the first four game they got. They're

2011
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: playing well, and they have issues for people like Purdue

2012
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 1: right now.

2013
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing on Purdue, and I know you touched

2014
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 2: on it a little bit previously. Before we want to

2015
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: break Kevin Trey Kaufman w Ren. I know last year

2016
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: he averaged twenty points a game. This year it was

2017
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: down largely due to the arrival of Oscar Cluff, But

2018
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 2: as of late he's turned kind of back into that

2019
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: big time score and I think that's offset some of

2020
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 2: the issues we're seeing Braiden Smith. I don't know, make

2021
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 2: it seem like Braiden Smith's happened some terrible tournament like

2022
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 2: that's not that's true at all. But shooting the basketball wise,

2023
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: he's been very reliable. Trey Kaufman Wren throwing in the

2024
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 2: post and is basically money. I mean, you're looking at

2025
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: back to back to back games of twenty twenty five

2026
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: in nineteen like that is and.

2027
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 3: Does that include the Michigan game when you rattle that off,

2028
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 3: I believe so.

2029
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, think about the first meeting with Michigan,

2030
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 4: all that length, the issues they had in Baki trying

2031
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 4: to finish through those guys, then they see them again.

2032
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 4: Him and Oscar Cloff were super efficient in that Big

2033
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 4: ten title game. And I actually think Miami not that

2034
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,040
Speaker 4: Malik renewed some rint protector, but you know, Udo the

2035
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 4: other guy is definitely known a little bit more for that.

2036
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 4: So you know, they will see size with Texas. They

2037
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 4: will see size if they move on, certainly Arizona. And

2038
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 4: obviously what the final four. So I don't know, I'm

2039
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 4: trying not to. I just Texas lost five or six

2040
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 4: going into the tournament.

2041
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were shot away from being.

2042
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 4: Stuck in Dayton. I don't but that's the way it's March. Though.

2043
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: I get it.

2044
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 4: I shouldn't act like Texas's and nobody and I know,

2045
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 4: you know, Corey Elliott, it would be very very mad

2046
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 4: at me giving a Texas fandom, But I'm just not

2047
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 4: I'd be very surprised if Texas be perdue. I guess

2048
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 4: it's the simplest way I'm gonna put it. Granted, every

2049
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 4: produ fan out there would be like we felt the

2050
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 4: same way about Saint Peter's. I know, because you remember

2051
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 4: that was Sweet sixteen. Saint Peter's already be Kentucky. I mean,

2052
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 4: you know that was you know, that was the same thing.

2053
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 2: You got four or five days to get ready for it,

2054
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:41,919
Speaker 2: and all that, I do want to see how Texas

2055
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 2: defends Fletch, your lawyer. I believe they keep saying this

2056
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 2: stat aut to every game where he's made double digit

2057
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 2: three's and maybe seventeen or eighteen straight games something crazy

2058
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 2: like that, which I mean, I'll let you know how

2059
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 2: good of a shooter he is. But he continues to

2060
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 2: get those opportunities. So what does his gravity present to

2061
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: that Texas defense? Do they face guard him more? Does

2062
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: that open up more opportunities for other guys to make

2063
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 2: surets Like, how does that all kind of work out?

2064
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Because he's another one that has turned it on as

2065
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 2: of late and couldn't really be playing any better basketball.

2066
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: Well we find out tomorrow seven ten San Jose Purdue

2067
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: taking on Texas. They are seven and a half point favorites.

2068
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: The boiler Makers are right now and one forty eight

2069
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: and a half. As you were saying a minute ago, has.

2070
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 3: Anybody been to San Jose?

2071
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have not.

2072
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh boy, it just sounds I mean, anything on the

2073
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 3: West Coast you can sign me up this time of

2074
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 3: the year.

2075
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 4: But when Rob Blackmantelsey was there to call an arena

2076
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 4: football game back.

2077
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: There, Yeah, I did a Sacramento State San Jose game

2078
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: one time.

2079
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 3: There, what, Joe, I thought, you've lived a life.

2080
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: You have, we'll talk about it sometimes. Been around the world.

2081
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 2: Doing college basketball and pro basketball and pro football and everything.

2082
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: It's a good, good thing about getting a little bit

2083
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: older if you've had a chance to do some things. Hey, now,

2084
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: like hanging out with you guys, how about that?

2085
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's wrong with that. I just was curious, like

2086
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 2: San Jose for a chance to get to the Elite eight.

2087
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a fun, fun, fun watch. And

2088
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, I also think at this point in time,

2089
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 1: there are coaches and a lot of them are still

2090
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: alive in the Sweet sixteen. They just know how to

2091
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: navigate an NCAA tournament. And I know that Matt Painter

2092
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 1: hasn't won it all yet and they had that first

2093
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: round upset, and I know things don't always go their way,

2094
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: but seven to the last nine, get into the Sweet sixteen,

2095
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: You've played in a national championship, you played in an

2096
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 1: Elite eight. I think he has a pretty good idea

2097
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: of how to prepare a team on just a couple

2098
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: of days that you get to play against. And I

2099
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: think that even over Sean Miller. At this point in time,

2100
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 1: I take Matt Painter every day and twice on Sundays.

2101
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 4: Your guys, favorite Sweet sixteen game, favorite Sweet sixteen.

2102
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Game it might have been.

2103
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 4: I have echoed Illinois Houston as mine. Now again, I'm

2104
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 4: all for the beer game tomorrow. Iowad Nebraska, the state

2105
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 4: of Texas. You know, we can't be worried about oil

2106
01:33:59,760 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 4: right now.

2107
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: I know we are.

2108
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 4: We need to be worried about getting a proper amounts

2109
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 4: of beer in two whatever they play the Rockets Arena

2110
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 4: down there in Houston, because Iowa Nebraska fans, well, they

2111
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 4: might start drinking oil.

2112
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 3: Honestly, if you.

2113
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 4: Provide that in a can for them. I mean, he's

2114
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 4: not lying.

2115
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 3: I'm half serious to not go with the Homer pick. No,

2116
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 3: that's fine. I'm still gonna be locked into.

2117
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 4: A lot of other choices.

2118
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go say John's and Duke. I think Saint

2119
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 2: John's defensively, like that's the first game Friday, right, Yeah,

2120
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 2: they're and they're just pit bulls on defense. You have,

2121
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 2: obviously Patino, who's one of the best coaches ever, going

2122
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 2: up against John Shire, who I think he's off to

2123
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 2: a great start at duke, but he's got to be

2124
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 2: feeling like man, last year we squandered away one of

2125
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 2: these moments, and can we get back there and kind

2126
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: of finish a job this year? And all the hype

2127
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: around the Boozer twins and Cameron Movesier in particular, So

2128
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 2: that's what I'm very excited for.

2129
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 4: You got Edge of four, which anybody that was wat

2130
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 4: Saint John's that is a big old body boy low,

2131
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 4: that's your big East Player of the year him against Boozer.

2132
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 2: And they can just make the game ugly and win

2133
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 2: like they win in such a fan Yeah, they wanted ugly.

2134
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: One of the night Caps on Thursday, Arizona Arkansas. Just

2135
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: you got Cala Perry going up up against this amazingly

2136
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 1: athletic Arizona team and he's got some athletes too. That

2137
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: would be a fun game to watch. And then you've

2138
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: heard me use the phrase rock fight. Is there a

2139
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: better description in the preview for just a rock fight

2140
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: game between Michigan State and Yukon.

2141
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 2: No, that'll be some high blood pressure there on the sideline.

2142
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 2: Might two coaches duking it out by the end of

2143
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 2: that one?

2144
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 6: Uh?

2145
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: I can't wait to listen to those two in the

2146
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: post game, I'll tell you that.

2147
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny that James pointed out the dude game

2148
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 6: is that he's most excited for that, because I'm most

2149
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 6: excited for the Illinois Houston game. Like when that that

2150
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 6: was like the first switch Sweet sixteen matchup that got

2151
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 6: locked last weekend, And as soon as I saw that,

2152
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 6: I was like, Yeah, this is gonna be war Like

2153
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 6: I can't wait.

2154
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 1: No nobody said Iowa to Nebraska.

2155
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 6: It's got me so excited that my voice just cracked

2156
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 6: as I was saying that.

2157
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: So like that's isn't this for the isn't this for

2158
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: the Corn Gathering World Championship?

2159
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 6: Iowa Nebraska? That that'll be a good one too, Just.

2160
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 1: Although there's a lot of fine corn grown right here

2161
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: in Indiana too, I should say, that's.

2162
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 4: Right, that's right.

2163
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 6: Well, if they if they one of those teams can

2164
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 6: make it through, they'll get to come down to Indianapolis

2165
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 6: in a week.

2166
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 4: James, I think the Colts have improved in one specific

2167
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 4: area this offseason, and I'm dead serious about that.

2168
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 3: Can I take a guess, sure, kicker, that's actually not

2169
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 3: a bag they got.

2170
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: They got they got a healthy competition between two guys

2171
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: who last we saw them, both were doing a good job.

2172
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were worried about Trader's leg. But one area,

2173
01:36:55,479 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 4: James that I legitiately think they've gotten better. Boy, Yeah,

2174
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 4: because we talked a lot about well they're running the

2175
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 4: back and they haven't gotten better. I think their defensive

2176
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 4: tackle depth has gotten better.

2177
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I was thinking cornerback. Because you're getting healthier, you

2178
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 2: get some depth there as well.

2179
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 4: Now when I say that, boy, defensive tackle depth, my

2180
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 4: mind kind of goes back to you on the date

2181
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 4: with the girl the tesla.

2182
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's.

2183
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 4: Almost like, you know, you go on this date, you

2184
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 4: come home, whatever, roommate, whatever, friend's family, Hey, how to go,

2185
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 4: And before you comment on personality, before you comment on looks,

2186
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 4: before you comment on chemistry, before you comment on what

2187
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 4: happened after the date, your first thing is she had

2188
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 4: a nice car. Yeah, the Colts have good defensive tackle depth.

2189
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 4: She has a nice car and.

2190
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: They picked them all up, right, Michael Clemons, Colby Wooden,

2191
01:37:58,000 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 1: and Ardent Key.

2192
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 4: Well, I mean those are ends Clemens and Key. I'm

2193
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 4: entire Yeah, and a little bit more Tillery, uh with that.

2194
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's a compliment you want,

2195
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 4: But my mother always said to me, you take that compliment,

2196
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 4: young man.

2197
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: See I didn't listening to mom, so when they asked

2198
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: me how to date, when I told him was terrible.

2199
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 2: You know that this girl didn't charge her car. We're

2200
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: out here with a big dead iPhone. That's how I

2201
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 2: looked at it.

2202
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: Did you even call her back after that?

2203
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 3: No, I made sure she got I actually did uh

2204
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 3: talk to her after that.

2205
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:28,839
Speaker 4: But yeah, with the gentleman.

2206
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 2: After that, I was taking, Oh, man, like, you have

2207
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 2: met a very good dude who will stay with you

2208
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 2: through all it is.

2209
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 3: But baby, after this, I'm going ghost appreciated.

2210
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Was she embarrassed how to go?

2211
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I can lay on the couch here if

2212
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 2: you want me to. But uh, yeah, she was definitely embarrassed.

2213
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 2: And it was just one of the more bizarre things

2214
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 2: in the world. I think she made me. Really, I mean,

2215
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: don't feel bad. The car tells you it needs to

2216
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 2: be charged and you just don't charge it. I mean,

2217
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 2: we're not talking about some car with no gas gauge.

2218
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 2: It literally speaks to you and says, hey, charge me,

2219
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 2: and you choose not to do it.

2220
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 4: Now and Chris Ballard's eyes saying that you've got good

2221
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 4: defensive tackle depth. That's as attractive as Jeff looking at

2222
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 4: his beef and broccoli from Cluster truck.

2223
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: Right, I know, but this is where I get up.

2224
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 4: So much.

2225
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 1: What about the starters?

2226
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 4: But like I do want to be serious for a moment,

2227
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 4: go over Stuart to forst Buckner are getting up there

2228
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 4: in age Buckner coming off next surgery. I do think

2229
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 4: it is a again notable thing to point out. Is

2230
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 4: probably a little bit of a stretch, but I do

2231
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 4: think at some point over the course of seventeen game

2232
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 4: season this fall, we could look at and say, you

2233
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 4: know what, that's helping this team out now putting that

2234
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 4: to the side, Yes, James, what about your starts? Because

2235
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 4: I have the feel right here on March twenty fifth

2236
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 4: of the general feeling is like, well, fiscally the Colts

2237
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 4: continue to be pretty frugal and pretty smart with their money.

2238
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 4: But are they better?

2239
01:39:59,720 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2240
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 3: I mean, right now, you have the Tesla and it's

2241
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 3: not charged. How do you charge it? Can't charge it

2242
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 3: with depth? So you need some dudes. And actually I

2243
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 3: was going through my big board. I think that comes

2244
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 3: out tomorrow.

2245
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 2: We could probably talk about it here on the show,

2246
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 2: a little bit looking at some college prospects, but even then,

2247
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 2: I mean I'm looking at I think I went through

2248
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 2: fifteen guys, five each at wide, receiver, defensive, ended, linebacker. Yeah,

2249
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 2: those will be great players I think to add to

2250
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 2: this team. It could be day one starters potentially. But

2251
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 2: it's not like you can get all of them.

2252
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 4: So what are you doing?

2253
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 2: I mean leaving at best case scenario, Let's say you

2254
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,680
Speaker 2: hit on your second and third round picks and you

2255
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 2: get those guys to come and be a part of

2256
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 2: your team and contribute right away.

2257
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 3: But what else are you missing?

2258
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 2: Because as you pointed out, Kevin, I believe you lost

2259
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 2: five starters via free agency or a trade. And we're

2260
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 2: not saying you should have kept all five of them,

2261
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 2: But how do you backfill them? And how do you

2262
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 2: account for the loss of snaps, the experiences all the above,

2263
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 2: Because banking on a bunch of rookies to come in

2264
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 2: I almost say a bunch, but banking on honestly want

2265
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 2: rookie coming in and being an impact player from day one,

2266
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 2: particularly on defense. I think that's kind of a pipe

2267
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 2: dream from what we've seen in previous years.

2268
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was listening to Derek Schultz. I always enjoy

2269
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 4: kind of his his insight, and he had a funny

2270
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 4: analogy of like, I need to make a sandwich, and yeah,

2271
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 4: I've got moldy cheese, so yeah, I need to throw

2272
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,240
Speaker 4: that out, but I still have to make the sandwich.

2273
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 4: Like you could say the Colts throughout moldy cheese. That's

2274
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 4: probably a little harsh to describe all those starters as

2275
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 4: moldy cheese, to be clear, But you still got to

2276
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 4: make the sandwich. You can't starve, you can't just you know,

2277
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:50,639
Speaker 4: like you have to do something here. And that's where

2278
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 4: I mean you. You just said it like if they

2279
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 4: hit on their second and third round pick, find me

2280
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 4: a draft. And I'll say this for any GM not

2281
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 4: I find me a draft to where a team hits

2282
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 4: on their second and third round pick in year one.

2283
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

2284
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 4: That is that's a lot of that is a far

2285
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 4: fetched dream there.

2286
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: So, but right now that feels like perhaps your it

2287
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 2: feels necessary to acquire the talent you need.

2288
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 4: It almost feels necessary for you to, you know, again,

2289
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 4: have a football team that I think we get to

2290
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 4: this fall and think, okay, this is a team that

2291
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,719
Speaker 4: is going to compete in a very competitive AFC. Because

2292
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 4: I'll continue to stress that I think the AFC's depth.

2293
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:34,679
Speaker 4: You talk about that conference one to ten is loaded

2294
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 4: as it's been quite a while. It might not have

2295
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 4: Brady top heaviness or Manning Roethlisberger rivers, it might not

2296
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: be that top heavy. But when you talk about a

2297
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 4: playoffs that we just got finished with that didn't have

2298
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes, and what has

2299
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 4: Baltimore done this offseason, I'd say Kansas City is added

2300
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 4: some notable as well. You know that to me is

2301
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,640
Speaker 4: where I sit here and uh struggle a bit.

2302
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think we all feel good with the secondary,

2303
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: but it's the front seven the questions that we have.

2304
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there is potential for the secondary to

2305
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 4: be very good.

2306
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:11,560
Speaker 6: I do.

2307
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 4: I do safety maybe a little bit of a question,

2308
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 4: but you know you, I mean, if you just lay

2309
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 4: out your starters on paper, Javarisward, Kenny Moore, Sauce Gardner,

2310
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 4: cam buying them and again we'll see who the other

2311
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 4: starting safety is. That's those some pretty quality football players.

2312
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 4: Now again lasting seventeen games, all that we'll have to

2313
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 4: wait and see, but on paper, that's got the makings

2314
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:34,919
Speaker 4: of a pretty good secondary.

2315
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, let's check it down. Indiana Pacers back

2316
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,759
Speaker 1: at the field house tonight hosting the Los Angeles Lakers.

2317
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,679
Speaker 1: We expect to see Lebron James and Luka don Sich

2318
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: playing that game tonight for the Indiana Pacers. Obviously, Zubac

2319
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:50,720
Speaker 1: is out for the year, Tyrese Halliburn is out for

2320
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: the year, but when you take a look at the

2321
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 1: rest of the injury report, most folks are probable right now.

2322
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 1: When you look at Andrew Nemart, Aaron Nee Smith, Pascal

2323
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: siak Obi topping, they could all probably play tonight.

2324
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,799
Speaker 2: I foreseeing Andrew Nimhard left wing three at the buzzer.

2325
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 2: That's his shot man, and he made one as a

2326
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 2: rookie over the Lakers, by the way, to beat him last.

2327
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 4: That Lakers Warriors like a couple of games out there

2328
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 4: where nem Hard like went off off.

2329
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's when I became a believer, because boy,

2330
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 2: he's the second round pick and he is very good

2331
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 2: at this point.

2332
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Last time they played the Lakers March sixth, that was

2333
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 1: in La Luka Danchez scored forty four points in just

2334
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: thirty two minutes.

2335
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 2: Again, last time they played here, Lebron had that tipping

2336
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 2: at the buzzer. So it's time for the Pacers to

2337
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 2: get some get.

2338
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 1: Back, all right. Pascal Siakam, as he tends to always do,

2339
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 1: lead the team last time they played with twenty six

2340
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 1: for due getting ready for the Sweet sixteen against Texas.

2341
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 1: Tomorrow they'll be in San Jose, uh, and they are

2342
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: getting ready for another opportunity to go deep into this tournament.

2343
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Right now, they are seven and a half point favorites.

2344
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 2: James, I'm rolling with that knee, Brad Smith to shoot

2345
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 2: the ball better and take care of the basketball against Texas.

2346
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 2: But your favorite four reason you should win.

2347
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in basketball.

2348
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 4: They'll have an open practice today, so you should get

2349
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 4: a CJ. Cox update yep, later today. They got to

2350
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 4: San Jose yesterday, so open practices abound, and then again tomorrow.

2351
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 3: Seven tens. That's CBS for the Boilers.

2352
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: And he keeps saying that he's expecting to play, but

2353
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,799
Speaker 1: the players always think that they're going to play, right.

2354
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it does sound like he avoided a major injury.

2355
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: So honestly, thank God for that.

2356
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 4: Right not to think about next year for just a second.

2357
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 4: But CJ.

2358
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 3: Cox is going to be a massive piece next year.

2359
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 4: And you know, first first second there, I thought to myself,

2360
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 4: boy that if that's acl, boy.

2361
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 3: It changes everything.

2362
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: Women's college basketball Maryon Knights claim their first title in

2363
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: the NAIA since twenty seventeen, defeating Dort seventy three sixty

2364
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: one and Sioux City, Iowa yesterday. Maringuard Madison Bailey led

2365
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 1: all scores with twenty three points. That is the third

2366
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 1: national championship for the Lady Knights over there, So congratulations

2367
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,719
Speaker 1: to them right there. Also, NCAA news UNC fires Hubert

2368
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: Davis after his first round loss with UNC. He was

2369
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 1: just one in twelve this pastor against quad one opponents

2370
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 1: and not very good against quad one opponents in his career,

2371
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: which is probably leading to his downfall there. Florida looking

2372
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 1: to extend Todd Golden to a third straight contract extension

2373
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 1: and the coach in carousel. We may have a new

2374
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: version of March madness here moving forward. Kevin and you

2375
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: said in the break you saw some on bill self.

2376
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Is that right? I saw an unconfirmed report from a

2377
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 1: self proclaimed reporter that Bill's self, according to sources, is

2378
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: going to retire. I've not seen any of the major

2379
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: news out there. Gots got that up at this point

2380
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: in time.

2381
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,719
Speaker 3: Don't get duped out there, my people.

2382
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 4: Nay, every careful verra Foolds is next week, right, got

2383
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 4: to be careful. Yeah, I obviously if even if it's

2384
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 4: just North Carolina. I mean, when's the last time North

2385
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,560
Speaker 4: Carolina's made a higher outside of their family. So the

2386
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 4: domino effect that we could see off of this could

2387
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 4: be very rippling across college basketball. And that's not even

2388
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 4: bringing Kansas into the situation here. So be fascinated to

2389
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:57,240
Speaker 4: see the route that they decide to go there.

2390
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: All right, the high school championships for Indiana are coming

2391
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 1: your way this Saturday. Class one A at ten thirty

2392
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: in the morning, bar Reeven Triton. Class two A will

2393
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 1: be Park Heritage and Westview. Then in the evening session

2394
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: beginning at six, it'll be Cathedral against New Haven Cathedral

2395
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 1: twenty four and five. A little bit of an upset

2396
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: to get here, Kevin, But what are their chances?

2397
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 4: Well, Keaton Aldridge was outstanding. I got to point him out.

2398
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 4: They were down eight entering the fourth quarter against Silver

2399
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 4: Creek on Saturday, and that man went bully ball. Kind

2400
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 4: of a bigger guard going to Detroit next year, and

2401
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 4: Silver Creek a lot of size for them. They didn't

2402
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 4: have an answer for him. So yeah, him and Julian

2403
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 4: Smith pretty good duo there. For For Cathedral New Haven,

2404
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 4: I know, record wise, I want to say they have

2405
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 4: the most losses I think of any team in the

2406
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 4: state finals, but they also won kind of the heroic

2407
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 4: fashion last second layup to beat Columbia City in their

2408
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 4: semi state John Herrick had a great call of that

2409
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 4: one there again. Two A and four A those are

2410
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 4: where my eyes are at Park Heritage in West for

2411
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,360
Speaker 4: you and two A two teams that have only lost

2412
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 4: to four A schools, and then four A James, I

2413
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 4: know you saw the first matchup between Mount Vernon and

2414
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 4: Crown Point and I think very deserving of two point

2415
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:11,200
Speaker 4: zero here.

2416
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for that one, mainly because I'll view

2417
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 2: it as best player versus perhaps best team in Crown

2418
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 2: Point and Luke Artle can do some special things. And

2419
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 2: for this be your last college not last college game,

2420
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 2: but last high school game, it should be a doozy

2421
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 2: and me and kal Zuber will be in the building

2422
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 2: for the three A game.

2423
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, let's do it, sir, can't wait.

2424
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 6: First IHSA State Championship experience for me, I'm excited.

2425
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 4: And then Jeff on the call four A boy, I'm

2426
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 4: not in the SpongeBob memes staying outside the old cambridge.

2427
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 3: There your squidward huh.

2428
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 4: I will point out Produe's Elite eight tip time could

2429
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 4: be right around that four A tip time. So just

2430
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 4: FYI for Purdue fans out there as they are juggling

2431
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:53,640
Speaker 4: things that are good to juggle this time of year.

2432
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 3: Charge.

2433
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 1: What's the name of the guy who runs the Krusty

2434
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: Krab I can't remember, isn't it mister Crabs? Mister Crabs,

2435
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 1: That's what it is right there. I had Krusty the

2436
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,879
Speaker 1: Clown on my mind because we were at Universal Studios

2437
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 1: this past week and the boys that was their favorite

2438
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 1: ride was the Simpsons. I bet uh so. Yeah, Matt

2439
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: Vernon twenty seven to three, Crown point twenty five and one.

2440
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 1: That will be a terrific basketball game. Major League Baseball,

2441
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 1: we got a season opener tonight, Kevin Bowen. But it's

2442
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: two teams and it's hard to get excited for the

2443
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Yankees and the Giants, isn't it.

2444
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 6: Uh?

2445
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, So day games tomorrow, right, Cubs and Reds in

2446
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 4: the afternoon. The Reds will do their tradition.

2447
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: Andrew Abbott will get the Opening days start.

2448
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 6: Can you call it opening Day if it's happening at night,

2449
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 6: that's the question. Yeah, I don't think it cannot to

2450
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 6: be baseball.

2451
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 4: Get off my lawn, kleb. But yeah, I think I'm

2452
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 4: with you there.

2453
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,599
Speaker 2: About those Colts Indian and Nights uniforms that they won

2454
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 2: daytime for two years. They finally won this Monday night

2455
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 2: game right past year.

2456
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 6: One o'clock against the Browns. Kind of hits different than

2457
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 6: in on Monday night football game, right, I.

2458
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 3: Forgot about it.

2459
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,639
Speaker 4: I don't feel like the Indian Nights jerseys haven't gone

2460
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 4: well for the Colts.

2461
01:49:57,720 --> 01:49:59,640
Speaker 3: No, but I saw Philip Rivers in one of them.

2462
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 3: So my hardest content.

2463
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 1: Hey, well, we're talking about football. See, Joe Flacco has

2464
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: a job again for twenty twenty six, signed on with

2465
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals back up Joe Burrow.

2466
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 2: There, and I mean not to be petty, but Joe

2467
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 2: Burrow has an injury history, so there's a good chance

2468
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 2: that Joe Flacco could be out there slinging some deep

2469
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 2: balls again.

2470
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 1: And it looks like Andy Dalton done with the Carolina Panthers.

2471
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 1: He's going to the Philadelphia Eagles.

2472
01:50:24,439 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 2: Now, QB movement, Do we see anything on Anthony Richardson

2473
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 2: here in the next couple of weeks.

2474
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, of those three, you'd want Anthony Richardson

2475
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:33,560
Speaker 1: other than the other two, wouldn't you.

2476
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:35,879
Speaker 3: It depends.

2477
01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 6: It depends on what you want, right, because if you

2478
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 6: just need somebody to Bengals.

2479
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 4: Trying to say, hey, Flacco, Burrow's out a month, go

2480
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 4: win a s three games.

2481
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 6: That that's the difference there.

2482
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:47,479
Speaker 8: You go.

2483
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 1: Good to be forty one years old and have a

2484
01:50:49,320 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: lot of NFL experience.

2485
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 3: I guess right, yeah, I mean you got plenty of

2486
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:53,640
Speaker 3: he's had what.

2487
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 1: Career anything else you guys want to throw in or

2488
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 1: we had to break.

2489
01:50:58,160 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 3: No, I'm oh, actually I do. Will throw this in

2490
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 3: really quickly.

2491
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 2: When it comes to Kaitlyn Clark and the new CBA,

2492
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 2: she is set to receive a massive race. So last

2493
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 2: year her salary was seventy eight thousand dollars. Under the

2494
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 2: new CBA, she is projected to make five hundred and

2495
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 2: twenty seven thousand dollars because of her making all WNBA

2496
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 2: and the increase in salary cap and all that, and

2497
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 2: then Aliah Boston will be in line for a max

2498
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 2: contract salary, which I believe is around one point four

2499
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 2: million for twenty twenty six. So shout out to the

2500
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 2: Fever Stars for getting their just due through the CBA.

2501
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 4: I think Kaitlyn he's probably free agency soon, right, yeah, yeah,

2502
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 4: got to open it up.

2503
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 2: So a lot of this isn't official yet, but I

2504
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 2: was just throwing off those two those are projected to

2505
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 2: happen for because Kelty Mitchell.

2506
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, is Lexi Hall free agent?

2507
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 1: I believe so. Yeah.

2508
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 2: The only three they have under contract officially is Leiah Boston, Kaitlyn,

2509
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 2: and Mikaela Timpson.

2510
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: I think Caitlyn's okay, that's her second paycheck probably the WNBA, right, yeah,

2511
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 1: but still.

2512
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 2: I mean to go from seventy thousand to five twenty seven,

2513
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 2: I'll take it. That's massive, I'll take it.

2514
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 4: She's.

2515
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: My point is she's doing extremely well.

2516
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 3: For her, so absolutely she's aren't good for her.

2517
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody's mad at her for it at all? Oh No,

2518
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: all right, coming up in a moment, we'll talk more

2519
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: about the NCAA Tournament and crazy stuff going on in

2520
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,439
Speaker 1: the coaching carousel. What does it all mean and how

2521
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: does it trickle down to Butler at the end of

2522
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: the day. We'll ask that question next in ninety three, five, one,

2523
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:29,560
Speaker 1: or seven. I have a question for everyone now and

2524
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: just Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina. What do they all have

2525
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: in common? Right now? You said Kansas, Kentucky and North Carolina.

2526
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 3: Coaches on hot seats are out the door.

2527
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,560
Speaker 1: They're all watching the Sweet Sixteen from home at this

2528
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 1: point in time. And that doesn't sound like a big

2529
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 1: deal in and of itself, But for the fourth year

2530
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: in a row, it is pointed out by one of

2531
01:52:55,360 --> 01:53:00,120
Speaker 1: the premier reporters on college basketball, Dan Wetzel, that the

2532
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 1: fourth consecutive year none of those teams will reach the

2533
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 1: Final Four. It's the third time in six years the

2534
01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 1: Sweet Sixteen takes place without any of them. And keep

2535
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: in mind for perspective, from nineteen eighty five to twenty twenty,

2536
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 1: the collective failure to reach the second weekend of the

2537
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:17,759
Speaker 1: tournament for those teams only one time in two thousand

2538
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 1: and six and So the question is, in this day

2539
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: and age of nil oh Kevin Bowen, what do we have?

2540
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 1: It's it official?

2541
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 4: Some reports here, and I guess I'll single out somebody

2542
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 4: in the own backyard. And came Gillespie from the Indianapolis

2543
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 4: Star reporting Ronald Noreed, former of course player NBA assistant,

2544
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:42,600
Speaker 4: to be the next head coach of the Butler Bulldogs.

2545
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 1: Are you worried at all that he's never had any

2546
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:46,880
Speaker 1: real head coaching experience?

2547
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,559
Speaker 4: Well, Brownsburg High School? Right, wasn't he a head coach there?

2548
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, right, Yeah, I had to deal with

2549
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 4: some parents there in Hendricks County. No, in all seriousness, yeah,

2550
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 4: obviously that's probably the biggest question. You know, nor Ed's

2551
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 4: coaching whatever pathway. I mean, I think at one point

2552
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 4: there people thought he was going to be an NBA

2553
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 4: head coach. Frankly, I mean it was kind of going

2554
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 4: on that path.

2555
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: You know.

2556
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 4: He obviously was an assistant with Boston if I'm not mistaken.

2557
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 4: Did he coach their G League team? I think he

2558
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 4: was either or maybe like the main rent clause or something.

2559
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,799
Speaker 4: And then of course with was with Rick Carlisle staff

2560
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 4: here in Indiana. A couple of years ago, currently with

2561
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hawks. And you know, I remember Butler game

2562
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 4: earlier this year when Atlanta was in town, him sitting

2563
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 4: courtside with Grant Line Decker. It's kind of funny now

2564
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 4: here we are a couple months later and he's the

2565
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 4: head coach. So I think from the onset, this is

2566
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 4: the name I thought Butler would go. You have questions, Jeff,

2567
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 4: obviously about head coaching experience, but where you don't have questions,

2568
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 4: I think is full on energy to want to revive

2569
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 4: the program. For anyone that heard Ronald Norad talk, he

2570
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 4: is going to be able to create energy and leadership

2571
01:54:56,440 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 4: in an instant and I think that that is needed. Frankly,

2572
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 4: if you need to inject some life into your program

2573
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 4: of like, hey can I get people to rally behind me?

2574
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 4: I do think nor D fits more of that personality

2575
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 4: here and again, Grant Line Decker the AD a teammate

2576
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 4: Ronald Norrid's on the national runner up teams. Gordon Hayward

2577
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 4: the GM obviously a fellow starter with Ronald Norredd. And

2578
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 4: if you ever watch Ronald Norridd play a Butler, you

2579
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 4: know full well that man was Butler's leader of those teams.

2580
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 1: And again my only concern is coaching at this level

2581
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: head being a head coach. Clearly, they know him well,

2582
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: they know what he's capable of. He knows basketball clearly.

2583
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's been working in the NBA and in

2584
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 1: college basketball his assistant for a while now. And it's

2585
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: also going to be about comfort with everybody else who's

2586
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 1: making hirings over there at Butler and who they're comfortable

2587
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:48,560
Speaker 1: with him what the plan is. But you're right about

2588
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 1: one thing. He will certainly bring NonStop energy Kevin, There's

2589
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 1: no question about that.

2590
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's thirty six, so he probably can relate

2591
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: to more of this nil world than the old guard

2592
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 2: when it comes to coaches, not saying they can't either,

2593
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: but there is a certain level of youthfulness there of

2594
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 2: wonder I would imagine, and also knowing Ronald a little

2595
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 2: bit from covering him when he's with the Pacers, a

2596
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 2: dude that will certainly, I think, be able to get

2597
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 2: some guys to buy in. And I wonder if it

2598
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 2: does help to just say, hey, I wore the uniform

2599
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 2: and here's what we did, and is that part of

2600
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 2: the pitching you know plan when it comes to recruiting

2601
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 2: guys and talking about a two time what was it,

2602
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 2: a Horizon League Defensive Player of the Year back then.

2603
01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited for him. He's a good dude,

2604
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: and yeah, we'll see how it works out. A lot

2605
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,240
Speaker 2: of moving parts and you got to build a staff

2606
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 2: after that. But I think it's it's one that makes sense.

2607
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think from an optimistic point of view, Jeff

2608
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 4: to go back to Okay, no head coaching experience, no

2609
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 4: college experience, right, I think it was just Brownsburg and

2610
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 4: the Straight.

2611
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 1: He was an assistant at Northern Kentucky.

2612
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 4: Okay, so he was at for a year some reason.

2613
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 5: The Norse.

2614
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're relatively new to d one there, but

2615
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 4: it did.

2616
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: He was a head coach for the Long Island Nets, right.

2617
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:05,040
Speaker 4: But you know, again, college experience virtually none, I would argue,

2618
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 4: though nowadays the college.

2619
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 3: Game is so freaking different than it was five seven

2620
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 3: years ago.

2621
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 4: You might make the case it's more NBA, like it's more, yeah, hey,

2622
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 4: how are we building the roster on an annual basis?

2623
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 4: How are we dealing with egos from a money standpoint,

2624
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 4: So that aspect I think is different there. But yeah,

2625
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 4: this is definitely quite the move from Butler. Again, I've

2626
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 4: had a feeling Nor it was probably the favorite when

2627
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 4: it was you know when this job opened up, I

2628
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 4: guess whenever. It was two weeks ago at this point here,

2629
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 4: and you know, portal doesn't open up till the Tuesday

2630
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 4: after the title game. So if you want to play

2631
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 4: this out, Ronald Nor, it's got what a week and

2632
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 4: a half to assemble staff, kind of get ducks in

2633
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 4: a row, and then obviously Butler's gonna have to attack

2634
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 4: the portal in a pretty significant manner. And of course

2635
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:54,720
Speaker 4: what finances he has walking into that will be a

2636
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 4: major question.

2637
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 1: And when you talk about portal too, the thing that

2638
01:57:57,400 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 1: he will probably have going for him in the sales

2639
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 1: pitch will be, hey, look, I'm proof that anything's possible

2640
01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,280
Speaker 1: at Butler. Last time I played here, we went to

2641
01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: final fours, So it can be done here. He's a young,

2642
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: energetic guide. There's probably, you know, some way to relate

2643
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: to recruits in that way. Sure you also say, hey, look,

2644
01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 1: I also know what it takes to get to the NBA.

2645
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: You want to come here and work on a shot

2646
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 1: again in the NBA, that's a factor. I've been in

2647
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: the league for eight years now. Yeah, I know exactly

2648
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,200
Speaker 1: what they're looking for at the next level. So A,

2649
01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm young and energetic. B I'm proof that you can

2650
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 1: do anything at Butler because last time I was here,

2651
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 1: we went to a championship game in final fours. That's

2652
01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 1: what we did, and I know what it takes to

2653
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 1: get you to the next level. Those are all the

2654
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 1: things working in his face.

2655
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point. I hadn't thought about

2656
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 2: the NBA factor from that perspective, but yeah, if you

2657
01:58:50,520 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 2: can say I have been in the same room as

2658
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 2: the best in the world, you can trust me. I

2659
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 2: think that goes a little bit further along than someone

2660
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 2: who just hasn't had that experience.

2661
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 1: And so I would also expect a guy Kevin that

2662
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: will bring an expectation that you're going to play defense here.

2663
01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 1: Right last time I checked, he was a two time

2664
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year in his conference.

2665
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly it was not out there for forty some

2666
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 4: minutes a game for his offensive prowess by any means there,

2667
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was defense, defense, defense, And you know,

2668
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 4: he definitely hit some big shots in both of those

2669
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 4: runs there. But yeah, I just made so many plays

2670
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 4: that a coach would be obsessed with, which is no

2671
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 4: shock of why he then got into coaching after that.

2672
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,080
Speaker 2: I remember he was the head coach of the Summer

2673
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 2: League team a few years ago when they traded for

2674
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 2: like Aaron Nesmith, and it was a big deal at

2675
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 2: the time. I was out in Las Vegas and I

2676
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 2: was talking to him like, so Eron East was going

2677
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 2: to play, and so look at how much their last

2678
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 2: have changed in the last few years.

2679
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember we had him on the show before

2680
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 4: the Summer League, and you know, he had to have

2681
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:50,760
Speaker 4: been I'm trying to think how old he was he

2682
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 4: took that Brownsburg head coaching job. I mean, I bet

2683
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 4: he was. He had to be twenty five years old

2684
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 4: at the oldest when he took that job, which again

2685
01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 4: full circle from.

2686
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 3: Gordon Hay I had thirteen years ago and he's thirty

2687
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 3: six right now.

2688
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 1: I think that was a job right out of college.

2689
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 3: There you go, twenty three, so he was even younger.

2690
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 4: From that aspect, I think the biggest question is, obviously

2691
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 4: we've talked a lot about Ronald nored and I don't

2692
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:13,480
Speaker 4: want to like discredit what a head coach of a

2693
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:17,400
Speaker 4: program means. Right now, but you know, I think if

2694
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:20,040
Speaker 4: we asked that madas true feelings about the program, he'd say,

2695
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 4: all right, where are we at financially? Yeah, you know,

2696
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 4: these are only so much you can do. I brought

2697
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 4: it up earlier in the show. We debated this a

2698
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 4: little bit in the seven o'clock hour. There was some

2699
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,680
Speaker 4: smoke yesterday kind on social media about Michael Shrewsbury potentially

2700
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 4: being the next guy a Butler and Tom Noy, the

2701
02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 4: South Bend Tribune ryder, who covers Notre Dame, came out

2702
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 4: last night said Michael Shrewsbury is going to be back,

2703
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 4: and he pointed out an anecdote about Notre Dame's current

2704
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 4: situation with their roster. Notre Dame is a rotational player

2705
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 4: that made one hundred and fifty thousand dollars last year

2706
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:51,680
Speaker 4: to play for Notre Dame, and he's being offered one

2707
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 4: million dollars by another school this coming season. So like

2708
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 4: you could have whatever Vince Lombardi on the sidelines, and

2709
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 4: if you're getting offered ten times more and again, maybe

2710
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 4: let's call it five times more. You know, if you're

2711
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 4: Butler's sixth man and you have a quality first year

2712
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, Saint John's comes calling,

2713
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 4: Yukon comes calling, and they say, here you go. How

2714
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:24,960
Speaker 4: are you competing like that? To me is a bigger

2715
02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:26,920
Speaker 4: question right now, more than Ronald Nora had, more than

2716
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:30,800
Speaker 4: John Gross, more than Michael Shrewsbery. It is do can

2717
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:34,640
Speaker 4: you sustain? Can you build a roster that you know

2718
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 4: we saw this year with with Butler, as soon as

2719
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:41,720
Speaker 4: like one injury occurred, it just started to crack and depth,

2720
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 4: I think is a huge deal for teams in building

2721
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 4: kind of an nil roster. Michael Jai is a great player,

2722
02:01:48,160 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 4: Finley Ben Jackson a very good player, but you know,

2723
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 4: they can only do so much. And when Jalen Jackson

2724
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:56,480
Speaker 4: went down, Butler went from a tournament team to you know,

2725
02:01:56,560 --> 02:01:58,280
Speaker 4: on a huge losing streak. And they have some other

2726
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:00,160
Speaker 4: injuries too, But you know, to me, I think that's

2727
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:03,680
Speaker 4: probably the bigger question athletic department and maybe even university wise.

2728
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the very latest Butler has a

2729
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:08,960
Speaker 1: brand new head coach, Ronald nor Red. We'll talk a

2730
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 1: little bit more about that. And also asked the question

2731
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to ask you guys about Blue

2732
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:14,920
Speaker 1: Blood since we're talking about college basketball coaches. We'll wrap

2733
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 1: it up next ninety three five one O seven Caleb

2734
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:21,560
Speaker 1: the Just because my wife has this movie on it

2735
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 1: the house all the time. This reminds me of pitch Perfect.

2736
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's one of the songs that they they

2737
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 1: messed with over there. There you go, big pitch Perfect fan.

2738
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:36,360
Speaker 1: I didn't have that on the bingo card. The proposal.

2739
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 3: As tough as you think.

2740
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 1: The proposal with Sandra Bullock and pitch Perfect, they're on.

2741
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 1: They seemingly are on in my living room all the time. Yeah.

2742
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:48,720
Speaker 1: If not that, then it's the Friends reruns that go forever. Well.

2743
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 4: That that's good.

2744
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 1: That that Friends reruns in the background are always Yeah,

2745
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:54,600
Speaker 1: it's it's all fine, But it's just you know, I

2746
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:55,920
Speaker 1: go downstairs and watch sports and.

2747
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,960
Speaker 2: See I thought, I like all those shows better now

2748
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:01,520
Speaker 2: because I can understand because when I saw Friends, my

2749
02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 2: grandma had like regular TV. So Friends would come on

2750
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:07,920
Speaker 2: King of Queens and I'm like, I don't understand King,

2751
02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, all these sorts are great. So

2752
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:14,480
Speaker 2: little perspective always makes it a little better if you're

2753
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:14,960
Speaker 2: just tuning in.

2754
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:17,040
Speaker 1: Kevin, we had some breaking news just a moment ago.

2755
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 1: It looks like Butler has a brand new head basketball coach.

2756
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 4: Indeed, the point guard from the national runner up teams,

2757
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 4: Ronald nored the new head coach at the age of

2758
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 4: thirty six for the Butler Bulldogs, will.

2759
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 3: Be introduced Friday at noon.

2760
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 4: Grant line Decker right now, looks like with Ronald Nored up,

2761
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:40,000
Speaker 4: I assume it's Detroit the Hawks playing the Pistons tonight.

2762
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 4: It looks like Ronald Noridd telling the Hawks team that

2763
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 4: he is off to his alma mater there.

2764
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:47,960
Speaker 2: So he told him he's sick of the playing every

2765
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 2: year that nine ten spot you can get. No matter

2766
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 2: what happens, the Bulls and the Hawks are always in

2767
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 2: like the nine ten playing game.

2768
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 1: The last straw is the Trey Young trade. He said,

2769
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:57,840
Speaker 1: I'm out of it.

2770
02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 4: I'm out here.

2771
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:01,280
Speaker 1: We were talking about coach in the Bulls being coached

2772
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 1: of course by Billy Donovan, and he's being rumored now

2773
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 1: as a possible replacement for Hubert Davis at North Carolina.

2774
02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: While we're talking basketball coaches, and I heard somebody say

2775
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 1: this morning on the way in, like he's coaching the Bulls,

2776
02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,080
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing with your life? Billy Donovan,

2777
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:17,480
Speaker 1: what are you doing with your life?

2778
02:04:17,760 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 2: Seriously, if there was ever an exit route, if I'm

2779
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:21,560
Speaker 2: in his shoes, I'm going North Carolina.

2780
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the Grant line Decker statement here and again,

2781
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 4: I get a lot of this is probably pr driven,

2782
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:31,560
Speaker 4: but you know, he says, here, in a raptly evolving

2783
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 4: college basketball landscape, our priority was identifying absolute best leader,

2784
02:04:34,560 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 4: spearhead the future Butler basketball. Ronald Norrid is that leader.

2785
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 4: You know, the first word I think of with Norrat

2786
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:42,240
Speaker 4: as leader, leader and energy. I mean, if you I

2787
02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:44,800
Speaker 4: mean we all I don't know if we all did,

2788
02:04:44,880 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 4: but I certainly watch every minute of that run that

2789
02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 4: Butler had, and that's what he defined. This is not

2790
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 4: a guy that had some you know, Indiana born jump

2791
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 4: shot that he was the starting point guard there, and

2792
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:58,080
Speaker 4: you know the recruitment. I think Matthew Graves even told

2793
02:04:58,120 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 4: the story. It's not necessarily you know, you almost kind

2794
02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:03,360
Speaker 4: of have to be away. I really need to watch

2795
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:05,520
Speaker 4: this kid in person. I don't think he's necessarily going

2796
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:08,240
Speaker 4: to light up a box score. But yet you watch

2797
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 4: him play, he makes, you know, winning winning plays. Grant

2798
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:15,280
Speaker 4: goes on to say, Butler a d He's a gifted

2799
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 4: relationship builder, commands respect through his character and his craft.

2800
02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 4: Aile he understands to solve this university. We didn't hire

2801
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 4: him for his history here. We hired him for his

2802
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 4: vision of what we can become and how we will

2803
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 4: get there. His experience in the NBA provides us with

2804
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 4: a distinct competitive advantage as we navigate this new era.

2805
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 3: Of college basketball. I think there was a lot of

2806
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 3: truth to that.

2807
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,480
Speaker 4: You know, it's not necessarily you have to go out

2808
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:40,240
Speaker 4: and find the college basketball background. You know, it's more

2809
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 4: and more semi pro, if not full on pro. So

2810
02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 4: those advantages or prerequisites or making a pros and consolest

2811
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 4: not necessarily needed here. So really really looking forward to

2812
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:54,600
Speaker 4: He'll definitely win the press conference. I'll tell you that

2813
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:59,440
Speaker 4: he'll bring some high energy soon on Friday. Inside of Hankle, Well,

2814
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 4: he's the coach. Now, I'm all in, let's let's say

2815
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 4: how it all goes.

2816
02:06:02,680 --> 02:06:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just from a personal standpoint, he's a good dude. Yeah,

2817
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying that wasn't a good dude. But

2818
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:10,800
Speaker 2: if you're gonna switch dudes, you want that guy to succeed.

2819
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 2: And he has a great relicship here in the city

2820
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 2: and really at all levels, I mean from Brownsburg to

2821
02:06:15,520 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 2: the Pacers to now Butler, and.

2822
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:21,960
Speaker 4: They certainly Butler, whatever Booster or you know, you're someone

2823
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 4: that's got some money, and all of a sudden you

2824
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 4: sit down in a room with Ronald nora Ed and

2825
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:28,840
Speaker 4: he's trying to sell his vision his program on you.

2826
02:06:29,960 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 4: I get words can only go so far, but that's

2827
02:06:32,480 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 4: all he has until September. I do think you would

2828
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 4: walk out of that room being like, Okay, I can

2829
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:41,400
Speaker 4: see why Butler would want that guy. Want a guy

2830
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 4: who's thirty six years old with no head coaching experience.

2831
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as not maybe cynical isn't the right word,

2832
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:50,480
Speaker 2: but it does come down to money and can you

2833
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 2: garner enough financial support to really build the best roster possible.

2834
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 2: Because as much as we want to talk about the

2835
02:06:58,160 --> 02:06:59,960
Speaker 2: coaching and the x's and o's, and I'm sure that's

2836
02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:04,120
Speaker 2: very important as well, sometimes like I don't question fab

2837
02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 2: Mada's knowledge of basketball, I do question what type of

2838
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:11,960
Speaker 2: team he can build with a limited resource pool compared

2839
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,280
Speaker 2: to the other Big East powerhouses.

2840
02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 1: YEA, energy will probably not be a problem for him.

2841
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 1: So that's what we're talking about again. A guy with

2842
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:23,480
Speaker 1: a lot of assistant coaching in the NBA, a guy

2843
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 1: that played at Butler during the glory days with Brad Stevens.

2844
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: He's got a great story to tell recruits. I know

2845
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:31,400
Speaker 1: what's possible here at Butler because I lived to not one,

2846
02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 1: two Final four appearances and a National Championship appearance. So

2847
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: don't tell me it's not possible because yeah two, I'm

2848
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:41,000
Speaker 1: sorry too, too natural. Yeah, thank you very much, Kevin.

2849
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 1: But my point is is I've lived it. Getting to

2850
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:46,480
Speaker 1: the top is possible here at Butler. I can get

2851
02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 1: you ready for the NBA. And I think the age

2852
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 1: at thirty six probably a lot more relatable to today's

2853
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 1: current seventeen, eighteen, even twenty year olds. When you're recruiting

2854
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 1: in the portal.

2855
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,360
Speaker 2: How long into the press conference do you think somebody

2856
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 2: asked about the almost make from Gordon Hayward.

2857
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 1: I say this all the time. I saw they played

2858
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 1: another video of it the other night. I know what's

2859
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I still think it's going in James.

2860
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:17,440
Speaker 2: I know I need to ask coach Norid hey man,

2861
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 2: do you still think about that?

2862
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,880
Speaker 4: He has to write we'd have to dig up some audio, Klea,

2863
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:24,840
Speaker 4: maybe if I could throw some homework on your plate here.

2864
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 4: We had norad On again a couple of years ago

2865
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 4: before he coached in the Summer League. I don't know

2866
02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:32,680
Speaker 4: if I asked him specifically about the shot, the.

2867
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:34,080
Speaker 3: Modest the run in general.

2868
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if we could dig up any of

2869
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 4: that audio, we could maybe play that.

2870
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:39,520
Speaker 1: Something tells me we'll have a chance later on this

2871
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:41,680
Speaker 1: week probably to talk to him about that, if not

2872
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 1: this week, next.

2873
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 4: Week for tomorrow's show there, because again, I mean, he

2874
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 4: was such a key key element to those Butler teams.

2875
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 4: Maybe not from a scoring standpoint, but definitely is kind

2876
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:55,560
Speaker 4: of their point guard. And Shelvin Mack did so much

2877
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 4: of the scoring in the back court, but a lot

2878
02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:59,120
Speaker 4: of leadership there from Donald North.

2879
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:03,440
Speaker 1: On this day, guys in nineteen ninety four, James, what

2880
02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 1: happened on this day in nineteen ninety four Indiana Sports.

2881
02:09:07,000 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 3: I wasn't born yet, so you have to fill me in, Kevin.

2882
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 1: I think I just I got I got old all

2883
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 1: in one.

2884
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:15,919
Speaker 3: Moment right this day in Indiana Sports.

2885
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2886
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 3: I you Final four was that ninety.

2887
02:09:18,280 --> 02:09:22,360
Speaker 1: Three number one Purdue beat number four Kansas eighty three

2888
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:27,440
Speaker 1: seventy eight Glenn Big Dog Robinson forty four points and

2889
02:09:27,640 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 1: seven rebounds.

2890
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 4: Of course, Purdue fans would quickly say, well, then he

2891
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 4: would got a back injury wrestling in his hotel room.

2892
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 4: Or is that the rumor there? And then they did

2893
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:37,440
Speaker 4: they lose in the Elite eight? Is that correct?

2894
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2895
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:40,720
Speaker 3: This is from one of my buddies.

2896
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:43,640
Speaker 2: He texted me and said, since Ronald Norrad is coming

2897
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:46,280
Speaker 2: over from the Hawks, can Magic City be a sponsor

2898
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:47,839
Speaker 2: for Butler?

2899
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:51,120
Speaker 4: Boy, you might get a lot of people to answer

2900
02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:53,640
Speaker 4: the phone a little bit quicker than you would normally, right,

2901
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:56,839
Speaker 4: I mean, it's magic City when you got the guard.

2902
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 6: Elevin, pepper wings and Hinkle.

2903
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 2: No more, kay, Lob Do you see the visions and

2904
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 2: ankle when you've got lemon pepper wings.

2905
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:11,160
Speaker 1: It's about the wings, Kevin, It's all about the wings,

2906
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:15,120
Speaker 1: West Chew writing in one thing, the leadership Butler has,

2907
02:10:16,040 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: Line Decker, Nora Ed Hayward. They all have in common,

2908
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: all overachievers, all winners. Okay, I'm okay with that. I

2909
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:26,480
Speaker 1: don't mind.

2910
02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 8: Uh So.

2911
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 1: I think I think most Butler folks are gonna be

2912
02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 1: happy with this fire, don't you. Yeah?

2913
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, it's Matt. I already see some

2914
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,520
Speaker 4: people reaching out of like I'm skeptical about him never

2915
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:40,480
Speaker 4: being head coach. I mean I get that, Like that's

2916
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 4: that's a very fair statement to make there. Now again,

2917
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 4: I would point out that I don't think necessary. You

2918
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:51,240
Speaker 4: could make an argument that it's pretty first time head

2919
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 4: coachy for everybody right now in college athletic because everything

2920
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 4: is so brand new.

2921
02:10:56,400 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: You know.

2922
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:58,919
Speaker 4: Again, I'm gonna go back to the Their Dame basketball analogy.

2923
02:10:59,040 --> 02:11:04,240
Speaker 4: Like Mike Bray hadn't unbelievable run at Notre Dame, I'm

2924
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:08,440
Speaker 4: not sure that Mike Bray would have had the same

2925
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 4: success in this era of college basketball, because I don't

2926
02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:15,240
Speaker 4: know if Notre Dame wants to have success in this

2927
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 4: era of college basketball. I don't know if they've got

2928
02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:19,200
Speaker 4: the big boy pants on. And look, if you're a

2929
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 4: Notre Dame, are you gonna sit there and say, you

2930
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 4: know what, let's take the four million for football and

2931
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:26,960
Speaker 4: let's bring that over to basketball. I'd like to make

2932
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,640
Speaker 4: the tournament every couple of years. Oh really, you'd like

2933
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:31,800
Speaker 4: to do that? What a four million got you two

2934
02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:33,720
Speaker 4: extra players? They got you to the National championship game

2935
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 4: in football. I mean, come on, now, that fan base

2936
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:39,000
Speaker 4: saying a bunch of Kevin Bowen and Ryan Bowenes out

2937
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 4: there that love the basketball program, they want football. So

2938
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 4: that to me is more of the question of like, okay,

2939
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:47,160
Speaker 4: where are you at now? And again for all these

2940
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:50,200
Speaker 4: head coaches, I think, whether it's Tony Bennett, whether it's

2941
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:53,040
Speaker 4: Jay Wright, whether it's you know, Bill Self's probably be

2942
02:11:53,080 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 4: a little more health related. We'll see how that plays out.

2943
02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 4: You know, all of it is a little bit more

2944
02:11:57,440 --> 02:12:01,360
Speaker 4: of a money money money. See Tyre's Halliburn with a

2945
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:05,800
Speaker 4: retweet of Butler basketball, so an endorsement there from the

2946
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:09,280
Speaker 4: former pacer assistant of Ronald no Ed and of course

2947
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:10,600
Speaker 4: Tyr's Haliburn being a player.

2948
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 1: Tim's a little disappointed in you, Kevin. Tim texting at

2949
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:16,680
Speaker 1: two three ninety ten seventy thought the breaking news center

2950
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:18,880
Speaker 1: was confirmation that Tiger was going to play in the Masters.

2951
02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:24,240
Speaker 2: No, man, I think the breaking news center would have

2952
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:25,480
Speaker 2: just been Kevin screaming.

2953
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:28,760
Speaker 4: I don't know his comments posts around last night. I say,

2954
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:31,640
Speaker 4: post round, he hit like six goal shots. Uh, he

2955
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,400
Speaker 4: sounded like he's going to make an attempt. So I

2956
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:37,120
Speaker 4: think we will get to Masters week and he will

2957
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 4: try leave the door open, yes, which honestly is probably

2958
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 4: good for ratings and clicks.

2959
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 3: If Tiger, that's crazy.

2960
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:47,240
Speaker 2: That he still has that kind of command, But certain

2961
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:51,400
Speaker 2: sports figures just do needle mover or he is.

2962
02:12:51,440 --> 02:12:53,320
Speaker 4: The needle right. Is not what they say about Kaylyn Clark.

2963
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I will put them in the

2964
02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:58,160
Speaker 2: same breath. I mean, I've covered a lot of her

2965
02:12:58,240 --> 02:13:00,440
Speaker 2: games in person at this point in my career, and

2966
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 2: it is a rock star event every single time.

2967
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 3: She is more famous than you think she is.

2968
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how recent this this video is, but

2969
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 1: the Colts posted something in the last twenty four hours

2970
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:15,600
Speaker 1: showed Carli Ersa Gordon putting on some fever swag that

2971
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:18,080
Speaker 1: was made just for her. That's pretty cool.

2972
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:21,080
Speaker 2: We'll be asking Carlie Ersa Gordon, do you plan on

2973
02:13:21,200 --> 02:13:23,240
Speaker 2: getting other players to put on jerseys for your team

2974
02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:24,560
Speaker 2: here in a couple of days.

2975
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:26,920
Speaker 1: That's the one you're more worried about right now? Yes,

2976
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:28,440
Speaker 1: for sure, and don't blame me.

2977
02:13:28,440 --> 02:13:28,720
Speaker 4: All right.

2978
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:30,440
Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap it up for us on this well

2979
02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:32,720
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, we got Jay Query coming your way with

2980
02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 1: more on the Ronald nor Ed hiring at Butler begin

2981
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:38,240
Speaker 1: between noon and three Today. JMB will have his two

2982
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:41,160
Speaker 1: cents at three o'clock. Enjoy your day. We'll see you

2983
02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:42,640
Speaker 1: bright and early tomorrow morning, seven am.