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Speaker 5: There's been a lot of pro Indiana hype, a lot

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Speaker 10: to this one game, four quarters and for Indiana football,

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Speaker 10: Better late than never in finding out what it is

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Speaker 11: I can't. I cannot break the superstition in me. I

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Speaker 10: Love it, love it, and I'm telling you it's going

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Speaker 10: it was not, And we'll talk about this brief, you know,

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Speaker 4: It was a great playoff run.

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Speaker 10: So far to this point, there have been great games,

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Speaker 10: I know, disappointing for the Bears, but there's a lot

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Speaker 10: Chapel join us with that. But when we come back.

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Speaker 10: He is the voice of the Hoosiers. He has been

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Speaker 1: Next. It's Monday, it's twelve thirty, It's fish.

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Speaker 4: Fernando puts the man behind him that is Black. Here's

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Speaker 3: O Miko radiicch on for the extra point prize on

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Speaker 4: So then Dana continues to pour it out.

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Speaker 2: Here and they now lead at thirty one to three

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Speaker 4: What are you thinking now, Paul find.

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Speaker 1: Bob the Voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher, joining Quick

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Speaker 4: He has done this before.

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Speaker 10: In terms of calling a national championship game for Indiana.

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Speaker 10: He did it in nineteen seventy six, eighty one and

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Speaker 10: poor guest line, Don, it is an awfully nice day

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about that, Jake Special, There's no question.

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Speaker 2: Although my location as we currently speak, is in a

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Speaker 2: and the other end is a male's restroom. But it's

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Speaker 4: I'll bet you know what, Don, Here's the thing.

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Speaker 10: I say team. It's interesting that in the year that

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Speaker 10: case the award for the best individual and a college

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Speaker 10: football season in the Heisman Trophy with Mendoza, that it

438
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Speaker 10: would come in a year that it is my belief

439
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Speaker 10: this is the greatest team in terms of collectiveness. That's

440
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Speaker 10: not to take anything away from other teams, but this

441
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 10: is just a remarkable team effort in terms of guys

442
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Speaker 10: working in unison with one another. Is it even a

443
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Speaker 10: stronger bond than it was, say, a year ago when

444
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Speaker 10: Kurt Signetti first got here.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question about it. You're still

446
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 2: going through the growing pains of a first year coach

447
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: and first year players and transfer portal guys that were

448
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: blending in with the guys from the previous program, those

449
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Speaker 2: kinds of things. But you can tell the way this

450
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Speaker 2: team has played this year, how close they are as

451
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Speaker 2: a team, and how much each of these guys really

452
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: really enjoys and it feels like these other guys are

453
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Speaker 2: going to be friends for life with them. I mean

454
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Speaker 2: there yesterday they get through the walkthrough at a different stadium.

455
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: They were literally out there. After they get done, they

456
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: wrap things up, and they were all hugging one another

457
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: and talking about the fact that this is our last

458
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: practice together. And it was amazing and very emotional for

459
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Speaker 2: these guys too.

460
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Speaker 10: You know Don and Holly Road that was there for ESPN,

461
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 10: she was like you, she was emotional in talking about

462
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Speaker 10: witnessing that right, and I think that there is a

463
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Speaker 10: great lesson that all of us can have. I mentioned

464
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Speaker 10: that earlier in seeing it's about coming together for a

465
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Speaker 10: common goal, and here they are one game away from

466
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Speaker 10: that goal. That's not to say that if they come

467
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Speaker 10: up short tonight that it was a failure. I don't

468
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Speaker 10: mean it that way, but you know, I'm curious of

469
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Speaker 10: this a couple of things just in previewing this game.

470
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Speaker 10: First off, that is, you have been around this. Did

471
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Speaker 10: they treat this week in terms of, you know, there's

472
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Speaker 10: so much going on externally?

473
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Speaker 4: Did they treat it?

474
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Speaker 10: Did Kurt Signetti from a scheduling standpoint or operative standpoint,

475
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Speaker 10: treat it any differently than the other weeks of the season.

476
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Speaker 2: No, they did not. I mean it's treated a little

477
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: bit differently simply because the obligations that the coach and

478
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: the players have from the media, but from any other perspective, No,

479
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Speaker 2: it was treated exactly the way every other ballgame this

480
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: year has been treated, right through these college football playoffs.

481
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Speaker 2: And that's one of the keys to why Kurt Signetti

482
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Speaker 2: is such a terrific coach and why he is so

483
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Speaker 2: most so valuable in the sense of how he goes

484
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Speaker 2: about treating his players and the things that they do,

485
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: because it's a consistency thing. It's doing all the right stuff,

486
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: trying to keep the rat poison as he calls it,

487
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: and the warm and fuzzies, all that's away from the

488
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 2: program as much as possible, which is almost impossible these days,

489
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: as you know, with social media and those kinds of things.

490
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Speaker 2: But they keep this the way he goes about it

491
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: is in such a tremendously consistent way. Number One, and

492
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Speaker 2: the expectations are the expectations, and they are every single

493
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: day the same and without question. Right now. I think

494
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons that bond of these players

495
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: is such a huge one, and one of the reasons

496
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Speaker 2: I think they'll win tonight because I just think they

497
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Speaker 2: are the best team I've ever been around. And I'm

498
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: talking about team now, I'm not talking about talent. I'm

499
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: talking about the individuals on this football team and how

500
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Speaker 2: they've blended together as a team.

501
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Speaker 4: Don What things?

502
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Speaker 10: Don Fisher is my guest Java House Peel and poor

503
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 10: guest line the voice of the Hoosiers in listening to

504
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 10: court Signetti leading up to this game, What things have

505
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 10: caught your ear of? Things that he has pointed out

506
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Speaker 10: about Miami that are going to be Indiana challenges.

507
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Talks about the physicality of Miami, how they are, how

508
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: tough they are physically. From a defensive standpoint, he thinks

509
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: they've got a terrific offensive line. They've got very good

510
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: talent at skilled positions. Obviously, their quarterback Carson Beck, has

511
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: been around forever, so he's concerned about this ball game

512
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: and in the sense of what they bring to the table.

513
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Speaker 2: And there's no question I think they played some of

514
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Speaker 2: the most physical football we've seen this year, aside from

515
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Speaker 2: the Iowahawk guys. They think they would be probably the

516
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: most physical team that Indiana will face. So it's going

517
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: to be very interesting to see how they handle this

518
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: ballgame tonight if Indiana can put the same kind of

519
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: physicality back on them, because I think that's one of

520
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: Indiana's strengths too. I think this defense for Indiana is

521
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: a very physical, very aggressive one, and the job that

522
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: Brian Haynes has done with this team from a defensive

523
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: standpoint has just been spectacular. So it's what it is

524
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: that nothing has changed, Jake from what we talked about

525
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: all season long in regard to how this team is

526
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: going to go about their business and how they're going

527
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Speaker 2: to play the game tonight.

528
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Speaker 10: Don let me wrap with this, you know I mentioned

529
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 10: earlier Indiana football has played one and thirty eight games.

530
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 10: Tonight will be the biggest in school history for you personally.

531
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Speaker 10: Two part question. The first is do you get nervous?

532
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Speaker 2: Generally speaking, I don't get nervous in the sense of,

533
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: you know, doing the broadcast. No, I don't get nervous

534
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: doing a broadcast anymore. I'm past that point. I know

535
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: exactly what I'm doing, and I do things so much

536
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: the same way game in and game out. It's probably

537
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: boring to our audience in some respects because I don't

538
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: change anything and I try not to change anything because

539
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to screw it up if I do. So,

540
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: all I can tell you is I don't really get

541
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Speaker 2: nervous in that standpoint. I do get nervous from the

542
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Speaker 2: standpoint that I've been around Indiana for fifty three years

543
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: and I know what the expectations have been for the

544
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: most part, and we've been had our most expectations for

545
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: some things to go right for Indiana. They haven't. But

546
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: back with Kurt Signetti again this year, they've gone right

547
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: every single time. So all I can do is I'll

548
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: be a little bit nervous in that regard, but I'm

549
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: still believing that this guy is the best coach I've

550
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 2: ever been around, and without question, I think they're going

551
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: to win the national championship.

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Speaker 4: Now, Don several people you know this. I know this,

553
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 4: but I know you know it as well.

554
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Speaker 10: I know what Don Fisher means to Indiana football, to

555
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 10: Indiana basketball, just to Indiana sports in general, and to

556
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 10: the Indiana sports landscape for IU fans. Don Fisher is

557
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 10: synonymous with Indiana athletics for an entire era in generation

558
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 10: of Indiana sports. But what does this Indiana football team

559
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 10: mean to Don Fisher?

560
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: All it means to me, in the sense of what

561
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: we've seen this year and last year, is that we

562
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: finally have a program that has gotten to the level

563
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: of which we all hope for attainment at some point

564
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: in time during all these years we've been watching it.

565
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Speaker 2: So this this team, without question, has been the most

566
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Speaker 2: successful and it's probably going to be my favorite team

567
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Speaker 2: of all time.

568
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Speaker 4: If they win? Will you cry? Please? You need to cry?

569
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Speaker 4: Can you cry on air? If they win?

570
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Speaker 10: Can you cry on air? I mean you literally? It

571
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 10: will be representation of the entire state. Can you can

572
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Speaker 10: you get it done?

573
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Speaker 6: Well?

574
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Jake, you continue to put these emotional

575
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Speaker 2: thoughts in my brain, and naturally, therefore I'm going to

576
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: blame you if I do cry to that.

577
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 10: Listen, it's only natural. That's my point, don like it is. Look,

578
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 10: I mean kidding aside, flippancy aside. I think if you

579
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 10: put true Ceramon, any of us, we just we didn't

580
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Speaker 10: think until maybe this time a year ago, that this

581
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 10: was even ever going to be a possibility or something

582
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 10: we'd see.

583
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: And here we are, right.

584
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: Yep, we were right there at the cusp of it

585
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: all happening here this evening and like I said, I mean, look,

586
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: I had tears coming down my eyes when we won

587
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: a national championship in nineteen seventy six. So being emotional

588
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the game is not new for me,

589
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: especially when you're in and I'll tell you the other

590
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: the other times that it's happened has been mostly in

591
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: basketball because of what you've watched and the kind of

592
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: perfection that Bob Knight brought up to the table as

593
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Speaker 2: far as the seventy six team and then even winning

594
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Speaker 2: two national championships in eighty one and eighty seven. But

595
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Speaker 2: we've never seen it like this in football. And the

596
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Speaker 2: last time I really had tears in my eyes from

597
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: a football perspective was in nineteen eighty seven when Indiana

598
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: beat Ohio State in Columbus and did it when nobody

599
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: thought it could happen. And they'd lost I think thirty

600
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Speaker 2: one and thirty two straight ball games to Ohio State,

601
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: and they beat them in Columbus that day, and they

602
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: carried Bill Bowery off the field and I was I

603
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: didn't cry, but I literally had tears running down.

604
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Speaker 10: I think that was thirty eight ten. I could be

605
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 10: wrong in the score, but the two guys that were

606
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 10: teary eyed at the end of that game. Don Fisher

607
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 10: and Earl Bruce, we know that much.

608
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: That that much, we know right.

609
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: Mine, we're happy tears, We're not.

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Speaker 4: His were a dispair.

611
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: They in Ohio state history.

612
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Speaker 10: Remember I remember, Oh yeah, I remember it well, trust me, Don.

613
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Speaker 10: I can't wait for tonight and to hear the call and.

614
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 4: Listen.

615
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 10: I hope you're able to soak it all in and

616
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 10: enjoy it. I know obviously you had to do basketball,

617
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 10: and then you know you've got to then get out

618
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 10: of there fairly quickly because you've got basketball tomorrow as well.

619
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Speaker 10: So it's going to be a busy, busy time. But

620
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 10: I think adrenaline is going to carry you through and

621
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 10: probably joy as well.

622
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: But we shall see.

623
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Speaker 10: But I certainly appreciate the time as always over the

624
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Speaker 10: course of the season.

625
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, Jake, I appreciate it.

626
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Speaker 10: Bud John Fisher, the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers, who

627
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 10: will be on the call tonight. All right, Chap's gonna

628
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 10: join us, coming up at one o'clock. And also we're

629
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 10: gonna go down to Miami talk to somebody who's down there.

630
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 10: At about one point fifteen one twenty ish somewhere around there.

631
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 10: Zach Ostroman Oscherman going to join us two o'clock today,

632
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 10: So still plenty of discussion, plenty to get to on

633
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 10: this national Championship Monday for the Indiana Hoosiers on Querying

634
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 10: Company ninety three five and one oh seventy five to

635
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 10: the fan. Stars will be bright tonight and we'll see

636
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 10: if Fernandando Mendoza can be the star for Indiana Hoosiers

637
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 10: Hurricanes tonight pregame six point thirty our sister station WIBC

638
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 10: Pacers and Sixers tonight seven o'clock from Philly, and fitting

639
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 10: I guess that an Indiana team would be in Philly

640
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 10: where Indiana last of course, completed an undefeated season in

641
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 10: basketball in nineteen seventy six. Football team tries to do

642
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 10: it tonight. We did this when Purdue made their march

643
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 10: to the championship game against Connecticut in basketball, and should

644
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 10: offer the same today.

645
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Speaker 6: And that is this.

646
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 10: The telephone number to this radio show is obviously three

647
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 10: one seven two three nine ten seventy three one seven

648
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 10: two three nine ten seventy and if you would like to,

649
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 10: I would love to know who it is that, whether

650
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 10: it be yourself or someone else that you know that

651
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 10: is a long standing, long believing, and often suffering Indiana

652
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 10: football fan, whether they are still with us or with

653
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 10: us in spirit. If I would love to know of

654
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 10: somebody that has the story that you're saying, you know what,

655
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 10: this is why I want Indiana to win. For those

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Speaker 10: that don't have a rooting interest, I would love to

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Speaker 10: use this show over the course of today to give

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Speaker 10: people someone that they're then happy for.

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Speaker 7: You know what.

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Speaker 10: I'm a I'm a Texas A and M fan, but

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Speaker 10: I'm watching that game and I heard a guy in

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Speaker 10: the radio today say that its grandpa went to and

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Speaker 10: sold tickets and sold coach whatever it might be. If

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Speaker 10: if there's somebody you know that you would like to

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Speaker 10: shout out, so to speak, Like, for example, Charles sends

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Speaker 10: me a message and says, hey, Jake, it is my

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Speaker 10: son's birthday, Lucas. Lucas is thirteen years old today, So

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Speaker 10: who's yours by thirteen? All right, Charles and Lucas, we'll

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Speaker 10: see right. But I know a lot of you have

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Speaker 10: people like that. I was thinking the other day and

671
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Speaker 10: I was a little bit disappointed in myself that it

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Speaker 10: took me this long to have the epiphany. But over

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Speaker 10: the years, Bob Jenkins, Bob Jenkins, who was the radio

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Speaker 10: voice of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network, the chief announcer.

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Speaker 10: He also, of course did television for the Indianapolis five hundred,

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Speaker 10: for ABC, ESPN and the IRL and Indy Car Days.

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Speaker 10: And literally the nicest, kindest, least ego person you could

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Speaker 10: ever ask for. Bob Jenkins of Liberty, Indiana, diehard Indiana

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Speaker 10: football fan, and each year at the beginning of the year,

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Speaker 10: he would always kind of joke like this was the year.

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Speaker 10: And Bob always said when it came to being at

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Speaker 10: the racetrack, he was just a fan that was lucky

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Speaker 10: to be there, and that when it came to the

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Speaker 10: Indianapolis Motor Speedway that it was always just a great day,

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Speaker 10: a great place to spend the day. And as Bob

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Speaker 10: looks down today, I hope he sees that Miami's a

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Speaker 10: great place to spend the day, and I hope he's

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Speaker 10: able to soak it all in. All Right, we're gonna

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Speaker 10: get some some shout outs here.

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Speaker 4: We'll begin with Tyler. What's up, Tyler, Hey, how you doing.

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Speaker 12: I'm well, thank you, Yeah, I have been a lifelong

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Speaker 12: Hu's your fan since i've and I'm thirty one. I

693
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Speaker 12: started when I was three. My stepdad and his dad

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Speaker 12: got me into it. He his dad passed away in

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty three and we buried him in a Crimson

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Speaker 12: casket and his iu, his iu tigh that.

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Speaker 8: He wore, and he got me into it.

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Speaker 13: And he's not here to see it.

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Speaker 12: But I think ever since he passed away in twenty three,

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Speaker 12: he's had a hand in this run so go Hooters

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Speaker 12: and this.

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Speaker 4: And he said, now, what's his name?

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Speaker 6: Ed?

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Speaker 10: You said, what's his last name? Tyler dropped off? All right, Ed, Ed,

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Speaker 10: who's your fan?

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Speaker 6: Ed?

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Speaker 10: Jim is up next. I'm saying we're giving tribute to

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Speaker 10: Ed got chay. Jim is up next.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Jim, Hey, I was one.

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Speaker 6: Then the coach wining Dinner Miami, the.

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Speaker 10: Super Bowl Pingo baby, And here's the thing, Jim, and

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Speaker 10: they also lost one down there by the way. But

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Speaker 10: we're not going to talk about the New Orleans game. Yes,

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Speaker 10: the Colts won their Super Bowl Miami in that stadium,

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Speaker 10: and they want it in a rainstorm.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: It rained just before the Rose Bull kicked off. It

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Speaker 10: rained just before the Peach Bowl kicked off. So if

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Speaker 10: there's rain in the forecast in Miami, which I don't

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Speaker 10: think there is, but if there is, Jim, that's good news.

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Speaker 6: Right. Yeah, I didn't know if it was open SAT

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Speaker 6: or it is.

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Speaker 10: It's it's an open state. Well it's got like a

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Speaker 10: it's like the old Cowboys stadium.

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Speaker 4: But yes, open stadium.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard it. Well, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: I listened to you guys all the time.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jim, you and my mom. That's two people and

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Speaker 4: it's much appreciated.

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Speaker 10: But yes, they are in fact playing in the same

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Speaker 10: spot is where the Colts won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Bill is up next? Bill? What's up?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 2: It's actually Joe.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I first time caller, really enjoy your show.

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Speaker 8: You just seem like a regular dude. I just always

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Speaker 8: wanted to get on with you. Obviously root for the Hoosiers.

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Speaker 8: One NFL thing. I just wanted to mention, not to

739
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Speaker 8: beat a dead horse, but seeing Sean McDermott get let

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Speaker 8: go in Buffalo after they go to Kalla's playoffs, championship games,

741
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Speaker 8: almost to Super Bowls and it's not good.

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Speaker 14: Enough for him.

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Speaker 2: What I would give to have ownership that set the.

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Speaker 8: Bar higher, you know, to keep Ballard decide to keep

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Speaker 8: just recycling. To try to win eight games of year

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Speaker 8: is just beyond me, you know.

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Speaker 6: Kudos to the Bills.

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Speaker 8: I feel bad for that fan base. I think they

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Speaker 8: deserve to win as well, and I just wish we

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Speaker 8: could have the same type of expectations.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate taking my call.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, Joe.

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Speaker 10: And yes, in fact, I'm an average Joe, no question,

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Speaker 10: but I appreciate that compliment. And yeah, Sean McDermott, five

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Speaker 10: divisional titles and out. And I did think and we'll

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Speaker 10: talk about this with Chap. There are a number of

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Speaker 10: areas where I think the Colts were exposed a little

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Speaker 10: bit over the weekend, and we'll get into that with

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Speaker 10: Chap just about ten minutes from now.

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Speaker 4: Paul's up next, Paul, what's up? Hey, go Hoogers? Now, Paul,

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Speaker 4: how old a fella are you?

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Speaker 15: I'm about to turn forty in uh March sixteenth. But

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Speaker 15: I wanted to just say, you know, last year, when

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Speaker 15: Indiana was on you know, on a pair, you know,

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Speaker 15: and we went ten when we went ten out for

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Speaker 15: the first time in school history by beating Michigan, I

767
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Speaker 15: was there that day with my wife and our nine

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Speaker 15: week old baby girl and my in laws, and it

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Speaker 15: was so much fun. And my in law is, you know,

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Speaker 15: there are you grats. And my my father in law

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Speaker 15: joked at the end of that game, he said, of

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Speaker 15: all the games he had been through, I that was

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Speaker 15: the first one that he was ever there. And they

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Speaker 15: won well, and we joked. But then sadly one week

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Speaker 15: later John passed and so it's very sudden. But this

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Speaker 15: year we just we keep watching the games as a

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Speaker 15: family and we just keep saying, you know, this one's

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Speaker 15: for you, Poppy every time, and so I just really

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Speaker 15: hope they pulled through for my for my father in

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Speaker 15: law and my dad too, who's also an eye.

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Speaker 13: Uh, he is still with us, and so all I

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Speaker 13: can say is, whosrs?

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Speaker 10: Hey, Paul, what is? If you don't mind me asking?

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Speaker 10: What's John's last name?

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Speaker 4: His last name was Smith, John Poppy Smith. Who's yours?

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Speaker 10: Get it done tonight for John Poppy Smith. We will

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Speaker 10: round out with James on our tributes. James, what's up, hey, Jake.

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Speaker 1: You're a good dude, man, You're real good dude. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Hey, all my families who's your fans.

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Speaker 13: I'm sixty and from my mom to my aunt's uncles, grandparents,

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Speaker 13: we've got a pretty deep who's your heritage?

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Speaker 4: And this this means a lot.

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Speaker 1: This just means a lot to who's your nation? If

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Speaker 1: we can pull this thing off, which it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a tough one, but I think it can happen.

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Speaker 10: Now, James, let me ask you this, how many people

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Speaker 10: are you going to be watching with tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with it, just me and my kids

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Speaker 1: because my two daughters went to IU as well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's cool, meet my kids, my grandkids.

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Speaker 10: There is a way, by the way, on an ESPN.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate it, James Eddie, somebody sent me a thing.

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Speaker 10: There's an ESPN alternate channel where you can pump in

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Speaker 10: fish right.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So when you if you have ESPN plus, I

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Speaker 11: think this is the only way that you'll be able

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Speaker 11: to access that. I think they call it the hometown

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Speaker 11: radio or hometown broadcast or something. You go to the

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Speaker 11: ESPN app on your smelt smart television and then you

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Speaker 11: will have all sorts of options. You just have to

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Speaker 11: scroll and find the hometown radio for IU, and ESPN

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Speaker 11: will have don Fisher Bucks sewer John Herrick all synced

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Speaker 11: up with the video of the game itself, so you

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Speaker 11: could do it that way.

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Speaker 4: Very cool, definitely cool.

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Speaker 10: All Right, we come back Mike Chapel, CBS four and

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Speaker 10: WXA and Fox fifty nine about fifteen to twenty minutes

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Speaker 10: from now. Also, we're gonna check in with somebody down

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Speaker 10: at the Bullseye Event Group tailgate that I think this

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Speaker 10: weekend is very special for We'll get to all that

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Speaker 10: other side quiry company here in the fan Indiana Tonight

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Speaker 10: National Championship six thirty pre game.

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Speaker 4: Our sister station.

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Speaker 10: WIBC JMV from Miami coming up at three o'clock. Jake,

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Speaker 10: I can't call in right now, but my dad to

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Speaker 10: IU for a few weeks, but he left to fight

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Speaker 10: in World War Two as a front gunner on a

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Speaker 10: B twenty four. He's the reason my brother and I

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Speaker 10: are huge fans and why we both attended and graduated

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Speaker 10: from IU. I'm loving every second of this. That is

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Speaker 10: from Doug, whose father is Martin Miller. Martin Miller another

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Speaker 10: Hoosier for which we are cheering for the Hoosiers tonight.

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Speaker 10: Ron Evan Mitchell played basketball at Warren Central back in

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Speaker 10: nineteen fifty eight, Jake, I inherited my love of Indiana

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Speaker 10: because of my dad. Talking about Ron Mitchell. He had

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Speaker 10: an old school, six foot diameter satellite dish that picked

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Speaker 10: up a bunch of satellites and stations that no one

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Speaker 10: else could, and people in the neighborhood figured it out,

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Speaker 10: and so everyone would congregate in our house on IU

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Speaker 10: game days to watch. Dad died back in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 10: and would be over the moon with what is happening currently.

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Speaker 10: Wish he was here in a small way.

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Speaker 6: He is.

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Speaker 10: Another that we are rooting for Indiana tonight in his memory.

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Speaker 10: All right, joining us now? Pay less or excuse me,

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Speaker 10: I almost said payless sickers. I'm so used to hearing

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Speaker 10: John Java House peeling poor guest line, the Java House

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Speaker 10: peeling poor guest line, of course, Java house dot com,

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Speaker 10: the website Jake twenty five the code for twenty five

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Speaker 10: percent off. Mike Chapel of WXIN and CBS four joining

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Speaker 10: us on the program. Chap Let's get right to this

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Speaker 10: buffalo making a coaching change. Does that surprise you?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, sort of, I mean, but it shows you.

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Speaker 16: It's funny. All this does is fuel my Son's anger

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Speaker 16: about the Colts standing pat every time that he sees

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Speaker 16: success successful or yeah there's successful franchises making changes because

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Speaker 16: there's not enough. It just raises his temperature level that

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Speaker 16: the Colt stood pat. But it just shows you that

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Speaker 16: the ownership management believes ownership because management is still there,

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Speaker 16: believes it's not good enough and something is lacking. The

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Speaker 16: only thing we don't know is and if if you

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Speaker 16: watch Josh Allen play now he was awful. You just

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Speaker 16: can't have turnovers like that like we saw last night

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Speaker 16: with the Bears and really win. But that's not a

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Speaker 16: strong roster around Josh Allen. It's just not how much

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Speaker 16: did McDermott have to do with that?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 16: Was it the GM?

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Speaker 2: That's what you don't know.

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Speaker 16: So to say you know they should have done more, well,

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Speaker 16: this is probably the GM's roster. So that's the only

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Speaker 16: thing I would say. But surprise, Yeah, I mean I

873
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Speaker 16: think there's is there eight openings now, seven or eight

874
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 16: openings and you're gonna tell me there are seven or

875
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 16: eight candidates. You think, man, I'll take that guy. No,

876
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 16: there's probably three, maybe three with McCarthy and all that.

877
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 16: So that's that's be careful what you wish for, you

878
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 16: want more. Now, you know with Tomblin, that's different. That

879
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 16: by all accounts was his, was his decision. And I

880
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 16: believe that you just don't get rid of Mike Tomblin.

881
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 16: I mean, although, if if you want the definition of

882
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 16: mediocrity in the book in the dictionary, his pictures there.

883
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 16: For if we're going to be honest about it.

884
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 10: I mean, he's been Marvin Lewis for ten years, right, well.

885
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, and I go back further Jeff Fisher, Yeah,

886
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 16: good one, you know, seven to nine, eight and nine

887
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 16: or eight and eight and all that. So, but I

888
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 16: understand striving for more. They've Buffalo's got the new stadium online.

889
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 16: Is it next year or the year after whenever it is?

890
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 16: Uh so, but be careful. And it's funny. I think

891
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 16: I saw that one of the guys that might consider

892
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 16: Brian Dabo, who was a flaming failure with the Giants,

893
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 16: but it was credited for really lifting Josh Allen, uh

894
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 16: his early development. So yeah, it's but this this just

895
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 16: shows you the lack of patience around the NFL, except

896
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 16: for you know here.

897
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Uh so.

898
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 16: But I again, I come back to the fact that

899
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 16: there's not there's not a pool of canag I think, Man,

900
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 16: I can't wait till we get this guy. You get

901
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 16: a couple more guys off the market, and then you're

902
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 16: you're looking for that, for that Ben Jhonson, the hot

903
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 16: coordinator who's going to translate, and that that doesn't happen.

904
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 16: You know, for every Ben Johnson, there's an Aaron Glenn.

905
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 16: So just be careful what you wish for.

906
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 10: Chap I thought this weekend and then let me let

907
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 10: me tell you the epiphany I had.

908
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: And then you tell me if I'm.

909
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 10: Being you know, sports radio hot take guy and not

910
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 10: speaking soundly. Okay, I'm looking at the teams that are remaining. Denver,

911
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 10: and I know bow Knicks has hurt and done, but

912
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 10: you know, Denver a team that a couple of years

913
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 10: ago was at the depths of the AFC, stood by

914
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 10: their coach but then drafted a quarterback that the coach

915
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 10: wanted and built with him. And Bowknix has been really

916
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 10: good and they've got a good roster.

917
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 6: You know.

918
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 10: Obviously, New England the same New England went through some

919
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 10: lean years there, but Drake May they drafted him. They

920
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 10: got a coach that fits it. And boom, there you go.

921
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 6: Right.

922
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 10: Then you look at the Rams. The Rams went to

923
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl with Jared Goff and decided that they

924
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 10: needed to go one step further, and they were aggressive

925
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 10: and getting Matt Stafford, and then you know, Seattle built

926
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 10: a really good roster and then found Sam Darnold, who

927
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 10: has been a good answer for them. And we'll see

928
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 10: whether or not Midnight strikes for them. But my point being,

929
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 10: it seems like you look and there are catless examples

930
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 10: of franchises being proactive, and the Colts are reactive.

931
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 4: The Cults are.

932
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 10: Always like a half a day late, and they're reactive,

933
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 10: and they're usually slow to react and they're not proactive enough.

934
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 10: Now is that me being just a cynic or is

935
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 10: there some truth to that?

936
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 16: Probably a little bit of both. I don't know if

937
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 16: it was reactive to go out and get Daniel Jones

938
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 16: because there really wasn't another a better option. There really wasn't,

939
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 16: you know, justin fields, you know people like that, really,

940
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 16: Jameis Winston, is that what you wanted? And for ten games,

941
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 16: you know, Devil's Dad's get For ten games they had

942
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 16: Sam Donald. They were on the Sam Donald track. And

943
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 16: then you know it all went to hell in a handbasket.

944
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 16: So but no in Chris Dollard mentioned this when we

945
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 16: talked to him. What's been ten days or whatever, it's

946
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 16: been that whenever you're always chasing a quarterback, you're just

947
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 16: always you know, you're you're always not getting it right

948
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 16: until you get it right. As dumb as that sounds,

949
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 16: as I've always mentioned, the problem with chasing quarterbacks is

950
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 16: your roster gets older. They've absolutely wasted three elite seasons

951
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 16: by Jonathan Taylor, they have Quintin Nelson has been a

952
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 16: zillion time all pro. Well what do you got for it?

953
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 16: So that's the problem. And if you look at the

954
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 16: teams still going on, they're getting They've got quarterbacks who

955
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 16: are are working for him, but no Joe Burrow, no

956
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 16: Josh Allen. Of course my homes is hurt. So but

957
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 16: I say, Matthew Stafford is making his case.

958
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: He really is.

959
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: And that was a great move.

960
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 16: So to say they're reactive, they have been because they

961
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 16: reacted and got Carson Wentz that I admit I thought

962
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 16: at the time, Hey, maybe this guy can be the

963
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 16: long term guy.

964
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: He wasn't.

965
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 16: Matt Ryan was never going to be the long term

966
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 16: guy in it. That was a flaming failure. Philip Rivers

967
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 16: was never going to be the long term so they

968
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 16: they someone can remind me when they had multiple chances

969
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 16: to get that guy, and you know, maybe right away

970
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 16: when Luck retired. I had to go back and look

971
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 16: at twenty twenty two or twenty twenty to see what

972
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 16: was out there when when they brought Rivers in. But

973
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 16: that's the problem. Things have got to come together for

974
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 16: you to get the right guy, or or you find

975
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 16: you find Brock Purdy, or you find Hey Perty is

976
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 16: a great player. The Niners passed on him like six times,

977
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 16: you know, the Patriots passed on Brady.

978
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 6: Five times or whatever it was.

979
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 10: So I've always said, Chap, and I know my buddy

980
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 10: Paul the Mailman, jumps up and down about this all

981
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 10: the time. The Forest Buckner's been a great player, and

982
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 10: there's no doubt. I mean, he's been everything that you

983
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 10: would want out of a player, no issue there. But

984
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 10: they sent a first round pick away to get him.

985
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 10: And it was in a year that had not one,

986
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 10: but two really good quarterbacks and Justin Herbert and Jordan

987
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 10: Love and that's that's the one that you look at

988
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 10: it and you go, they they were half a day late.

989
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: In my opinion, that's what the seed be more aggressive.

990
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 16: I need to go back and look at the timeline.

991
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 16: But I'm assuming they'd already signed Philip Rivers, which that's

992
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 16: where you that's where you uh say, well, you shouldn't

993
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 16: sign the River. You should have targeted one of the quarterbacks.

994
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 16: So that yes, I understand and in hindsight, everything you're

995
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 16: saying is true. And until they get this quarterback thing solved,

996
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 16: they're going nowhere, They're going to be what they are,

997
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 16: which is not in the upper quartile.

998
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 10: Uh do you consider a healthy Daniel Jones the quarterback

999
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 10: thing being solved?

1000
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 16: Well, it has to be. Uh yeah, with the landscape,

1001
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 16: it has to be. And that's the thing is there.

1002
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 16: They've they're they're sort of all in on Daniel Jones.

1003
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 16: And I've said from the start that once they made

1004
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 16: the trade for Sauce Gardner, they hitched their wagon.

1005
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 4: And Daniel Jones, Yeah, they're gonna have to be now right.

1006
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to be now and and.

1007
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1008
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 16: You're talking about a guy that's finished three was with

1009
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 16: the seven seasons on I are with I don't know

1010
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 16: with an A C. L and the back and then

1011
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 16: this Achilles and he's really had one and a half

1012
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 16: really really good years, and the others have been like,

1013
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 16: you need much more than that.

1014
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 10: Now.

1015
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 16: How much of that we can go back and and

1016
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 16: and argue how much was that the Giants ineptitude and

1017
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 16: probably quite a bit of it. But yeah, I again,

1018
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 16: if it's not Daniel Jones, then who is it? I mean, again,

1019
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 16: the way it is, you've got no first round draft picks,

1020
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 16: so there's zero chance of moving up to get anybody.

1021
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 16: I don't care if you trade three players, you're not

1022
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 16: going to get you know, top five or whatever. And

1023
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 16: is this really going to be that strong of a

1024
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 16: quarterback draft? I don't know.

1025
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 4: I it's not.

1026
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: It's not what everybody said it was going to be.

1027
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 16: So yeah, that's it. Just ham Stranger all the way.

1028
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 16: And it's got to be Daniel Jones. And again, you're you're, you're,

1029
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 16: you're you're expecting him to be ready by July.

1030
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: You don't know.

1031
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 16: And I'm convinced as I sit here that when training

1032
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 16: camp opens that he'll be eased back in. I don't

1033
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 16: think he'll be full bore. I just I just don't

1034
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 16: think so so. But but if not him, then what

1035
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 16: do you got. I mean, with all due respects to

1036
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 16: Riley Leonard, I don't think anyone would used him as

1037
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 16: well if Daniel Jones doesn't.

1038
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, work out we got, we got Riley.

1039
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: And I don't mean to dump on Riley.

1040
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 16: I mean he was taken in the sixth round to

1041
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 16: be sort of the developmental guy, to maybe be a

1042
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 16: spot starter and a strong backup guy. I think we

1043
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 16: saw that he's at least he's is at least that

1044
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 16: to where he can go in there short term and

1045
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 16: probably win you games because he won him a couple

1046
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 16: of games instead of Rivers. Maybe maybe looking back, but

1047
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 16: it's just I look around the league and so many teams.

1048
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 16: Miami has no idea what to do with two, Arizona

1049
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 16: has no idea what to do with Murray. And they've

1050
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 16: given these guys contracts, Yeah, big contracts. So uh because

1051
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 16: I saw who's who's going to get the big contract

1052
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 16: or the fifth year option on gosh, here was he

1053
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 16: was just on the other day, They're going to give

1054
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 16: oh CJ. Stroud, You've got to give him his fifth

1055
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 16: year option, which you will. It's like twenty six mil.

1056
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 16: But then if he doesn't really improve a lot, you're

1057
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 16: going to give him fifty million a year minimum? No,

1058
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 16: So of course I say no.

1059
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 4: I think anybody playing B cheap for if anything, for CJ. Stroud.

1060
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 10: What we saw is that Houston needs to make sure

1061
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 10: they have home field advantage and not play outdoors in

1062
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 10: brutal weather, you know what I mean.

1063
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that was the reason, but man, that

1064
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: was brutal.

1065
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: Can I see?

1066
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 16: They're the only team that's winless in divisional games since

1067
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 16: the Super Bowl, and that takes up takes in a

1068
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 16: lot of crappy teams, the Jets and all that. So yeah,

1069
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 16: and that's not a good thing. It's to you go

1070
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 16: on the road and all that stuff that's you've got.

1071
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 16: You just can't.

1072
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: He just looked, He looked.

1073
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 16: Scared, panicked, and made some really bad plays that were

1074
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 16: either the defense either forced them or he forced them.

1075
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 16: However you want to look at it, and there's another

1076
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 16: perfect example. They're wasting an elite defense with those pass

1077
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 16: rushers and everybody else. And what do you get to

1078
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 16: show for it? Well, okay, you got a couple of

1079
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 16: playoffs or I guess there's three straight playoff spots. But

1080
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 16: that's not what people are in this for. And that's

1081
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 16: why I understand the local frustration. Is you're not even

1082
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 16: getting in and not winning your first round game. You're

1083
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 16: not getting in, and that's unacceptable. It's just totally unacceptable.

1084
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 4: Chap.

1085
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 10: If we talked to you a week from today, we

1086
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 10: will be previewing the Super Bowl between what two teams.

1087
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Speaker 16: Oh, the Rams and the Patriots. And I hate the Patriots,

1088
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 16: but I'm not a bit Denver fan either, especially with

1089
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 16: bow Nicks out. I mean, it's funny, great trivia thing

1090
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 16: that somebody put out there over the weekend is that

1091
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 16: is that Jared Stidham has a chance to be only

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00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 16: the second quarterback to start his first game of a

1093
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 16: season in the playoffs and win it. Did you see

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00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 16: who the other?

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00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 6: Who?

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00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: The only guy is?

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00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 4: Boy? That's good.

1098
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 2: It's a really good question.

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00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: Wait, his first start ever in the playoffs?

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Speaker 16: No, no, no, no no, his first start of a

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00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 16: season got in the playoffs and he won it. Hit

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Speaker 16: me and he won two. Frank Raich, Yeah, okay, I

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00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 16: don't know that.

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00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: I realized. I knew he was the back and one

1105
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 4: of them he was down thirty five points right.

1106
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 16: That's when he started, and because Kelly was out and

1107
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 16: he's only had the greatest comeback in the history of

1108
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 16: the NFL after having the greatest history of the in

1109
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 16: the College at Maryland. So I text Frank and he said, yeah,

1110
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 16: I kind of thought I had that. He said, you

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01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 16: know I won to that year. I yes, you did so.

1112
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Speaker 17: Uh.

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 16: So that that's the whole thing. It's it's getting the

1114
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 16: right guy in in as I guess, we go down

1115
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 16: a different rabbit hole and get in surrounding him with

1116
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 16: with the right roster.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 16: And and you know Houston hasn't done that. Uh, Buffalo

1119
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Speaker 16: hasn't done that in their waste and their waste and

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Speaker 16: some really quality years from an elite quarterback the Chargers

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Speaker 16: was Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: Holy smokes.

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Speaker 16: If you're if you're building an NFL roster from start

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Speaker 16: and you threw all these players into a hat, wouldn't

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Speaker 16: you Among the top five guys you take are Josh

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Speaker 16: Allen and Justin Herbert. Yes, my homes, but I needs

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01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 16: you are guys that that just haven't gotten there yet,

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Speaker 16: more so with Herbert than Allen obviously. But it's it's

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01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 16: it's sort of goes. You've got to have the quarterback

1130
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 16: to he could be a serious contender for something. But

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01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 16: obviously that's not enough. We saw that in Indy with

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01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 16: with Peyton, all those great years he had. Remember the

1133
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 16: Star Wars comments from from from Jimmer, multiple Lombardi's baby,

1134
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 16: multiple Lombardies. Fortunately near the end he quit. He quit

1135
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 16: that because it just was it just didn't come across right.

1136
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 10: Chap, tell me the biggest IU football fan. You know, tonight,

1137
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 10: when you're watching that game, you're going to be thinking

1138
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 10: of who Bill Benner?

1139
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 16: Bill Benner? Uh, because I know, I know what he

1140
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 16: He's one of those you guys that he's been there

1141
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 16: on those cold, maybe not rainy saturdays in Bloomington to

1142
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 16: where they're getting their ass handed to them by Rutgers

1143
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 16: or Ball State church chirp and uh. And and now

1144
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 16: he's he's there and he's going to enjoy it. And

1145
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 16: I know there's others. But it's funny because my my

1146
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 16: grandson's got a an EU shirt, my granddaughterly had a

1147
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 16: great get here or now you sure so they can

1148
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 16: work tonight and they're not. This is this is what

1149
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 16: we always argue with people about the importance of sports.

1150
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 16: This is this is one of the side products of sports.

1151
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 16: It just brings people together.

1152
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 7: It does.

1153
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: And this team.

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 16: And that's like when you called for Super Bowl over all.

1155
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 16: This it's just different around the community it is. It

1156
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 16: brings people together. And that's what I hope they finished

1157
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 16: this tonight the right way and then I can you know,

1158
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 16: it can deal with Red hu Wayne being pissed off.

1159
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: That's right. But this is a great run, all right, Chap.

1160
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Speaker 4: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: We'll probably talk to you next week to preview the

1162
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 10: Super Bowl and figure out what happened over the weekend,

1163
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 10: but certainly appreciate it.

1164
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: Enjoy the game tonight.

1165
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 10: Be well, guys, right Mac Chappel joining us on the

1166
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 10: Java House, Peel and poor guest line, same place we

1167
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 10: go when we're talking about Indiana fans. There's the reason

1168
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 10: I wanted to bring this guy on. You know him

1169
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 10: on this radio station as Jaylaw. Jeff Lawrence is his name,

1170
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 10: but Jaylaw is what we know him. He's got the

1171
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 10: bear Bryant looking eyeu hat that he wears everywhere he

1172
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 10: appears at J and V remotes kind of like the

1173
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 10: photographer and the Omen. Every time you turn around there

1174
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 10: he is, and he is down in South Florida getting

1175
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 10: ready for the Bullseye event and group Weaken extraordinary and

1176
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 10: he has been down there soaking it in, he joins us.

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01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 4: Now, Jayla, how are you.

1178
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 18: Hey, Jake cor I'm doing great. Some degrees here, so

1179
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 18: it's a lot better here than there.

1180
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's ten degrees here. Thanks. Okay, you got down.

1181
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 18: There win Saturday, Saturday, early afternoon.

1182
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 4: Okay, And I want to know. I got a couple

1183
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 4: of questions for you here.

1184
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, tell me what all the events have that you've

1185
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 10: been like, Just what all you've been doing to enjoy

1186
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 10: and soak it all in.

1187
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 18: Well, we had a small event when we got here

1188
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 18: with Bullseye and then pretty much on our own since then.

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01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 18: So John and I have been going here, there and

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 18: everywhere up and down the coast. We had some friends

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01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 18: that invited us aboard their yacht yesterday and it was

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01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 18: hung out there and had a nice seat for dinner

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01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 18: that hung out with some folks, same folks the airbnb

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01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 18: with Isaiah Jones and his family was there, so I

1195
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 18: got to meet DJ and talk him about some stuff

1196
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 18: going off the team and it's all read down here, right,

1197
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 18: now every place we've gone, though, I mean it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 10: Now, you you attended Indiana, correct, you grew up in Richmond?

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Speaker 18: Yes, yep, yep, I got graduating eighty five.

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01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 10: Okay, And so how many football games would you guess

1202
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,479
Speaker 10: that you've been to in your life?

1203
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: Good lord.

1205
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 18: I've had season tickets for about fifteen years and then

1206
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 18: went to a few games of years in between graduating

1207
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 18: and then So I mean, I I don't need bird

1208
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 18: game three three hundred.

1209
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 10: So of the twelve hundred and thirty eight games that

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01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 10: Indiana has played, Jaylaw has been there for let's say,

1211
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 10: you know, roughly fifteen to eighteen percent of them, and

1212
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 10: like five of those games he's actually seen victories. Right,

1213
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 10: So you're you're as die hard as it gets.

1214
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 18: Well, when I was there, we won twelve games, and

1216
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 18: one year we won zero.

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 4: That was in four years, not just some people, listen

1218
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 4: to you, not in one season, right, Yeah?

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 18: And my senior year we won the first game and

1220
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 18: tore down the goalpost and took them over to Dunhill apartments.

1221
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 4: Nice, doun Hill. Done. Hill's not there anymore, those apartments

1222
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 4: are gone, I'll tell you, okay.

1223
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1224
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 4: So Jayla.

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01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 10: Here, here's here's another reason why I wanted to bring

1226
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 10: you on. You know, you have been very open about this,

1227
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 10: which I admire greatly and I respect it. But you

1228
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 10: deserve you've earned and you deserve some R and R

1229
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 10: and some good sunshine and some good football, not just

1230
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 10: because of the season ticket dedication, not just because of

1231
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 10: your loyalty to Indiana, not just because your hat, but

1232
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 10: also because it's got to be nice for you to

1233
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 10: just kind of have something else to focus on for

1234
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 10: a little bit about Can you let our listeners know

1235
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 10: what I'm talking about.

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01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 18: Yeah, about three years ago, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

1237
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 18: Over the years my PSA set blood tests I got

1238
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 18: every year, we're creeping up. At my age. I'm sixty two,

1239
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 18: soon to be sixty three. My doctor told me I

1240
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 18: needed to get the urologists in my life. So went

1241
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 18: to the folks that you're all of Indiana. Doctor Ramsey,

1242
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 18: great guy, did some more blood work than MRI and

1243
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 18: I had three lesions, one to which came back cancerous.

1244
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 18: So after that they sent the biopsy off to get

1245
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 18: some genetic DNA testing and another testing called Gleason, and

1246
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 18: they go to the Gleason score a lot and it's

1247
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 18: a combination of two factors which I'm not sure what

1248
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 18: they are. But I had a score of six, which

1249
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,439
Speaker 18: is fine, and my genetic testing came back non aggressive type.

1250
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 18: So what I did the next few years was what's

1251
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 18: called active.

1252
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: Surveillance, not a treatment.

1253
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 18: It's just monitoring every six months with blood tests and

1254
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 18: usually a biopsy once a year. And then this year

1255
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 18: my PSA went up to twelve, which was getting the

1256
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 18: zone of you know, you got to take a closer look.

1257
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 18: So we did another MRI and another biopsy and unfortunately

1258
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 18: came back and I got the news Thursday night before

1259
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 18: the Peach Full when I got to Atlanta that my

1260
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 18: glease and score increased to seven. So had a pity

1261
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 18: party for about a half hour with my wife on

1262
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 18: the phone. But I was done here with buddies and

1263
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 18: Rattornity brothers and had a great time. The game made

1264
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 18: me not think about anything, and I got a pet

1265
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 18: Skain coming up when I get home, and we'll get

1266
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 18: a see what that shows, make sure nothing's spread, and

1267
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 18: get a plan and go from there. I mean mentally,

1268
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 18: I used to have anxiety and depression a lot, but

1269
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 18: I tell you, Jake, having what I've got, the cancer

1270
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 18: has really reset my focus on what's important in life.

1271
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 18: My anxiety is gone, depressions gone because I don't worry

1272
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 18: about stuff anymore, the stuff that doesn't matter. So after

1273
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 18: the peace only one, you know, call my wife. I go, oh, man,

1274
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 18: I really want to go, but I know I'm lolling

1275
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 18: the total poll point wise and everything. She guys, you're going,

1276
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 18: no matter what costs, You're going.

1277
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: You deserve it.

1278
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 18: You need spend some time with the friends, and you

1279
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 18: know the first time this has ever happened, so you're

1280
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 18: going to be there. So I knew John, what's having

1281
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 18: this thing with Bullseye signed up on Sunday, I think,

1282
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 18: and here I am.

1283
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 10: So with that tonight you're going to the game, right,

1284
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 10: you guys are heading out, And my understanding is John

1285
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 10: was telling me the place where you know Kyle and Bowles.

1286
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,480
Speaker 10: I set you guys up at the Diplomat. There's outstanding.

1287
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 10: You got to bust.

1288
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: It's going to take you in about four thirty and

1289
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 4: then you got tickets to the game.

1290
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 18: Right, Yes, yeah, I'm about it. Take It's not great

1291
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 18: about ten rows from heaven, but you know what I'm there.

1292
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 18: I mean, yeah, you know, that's all that's important to

1293
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 18: me to be there and enjoy, to embrace it. And

1294
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 18: U and who's just on to victory?

1295
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 10: Well, Jaylaw, the reason I wanted to bring you on

1296
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 10: is because, you know, I mentioned earlier, sometimes people don't

1297
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 10: have a rooting interest in a game, and I know

1298
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 10: that there are people listening to this show that are

1299
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 10: fans of Purdue or ball State or Evansville that are

1300
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 10: probably at this point completely fatigued by the IU story.

1301
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 10: I understand it if you're not a fan of a team, right,

1302
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 10: And so I always try to give people that don't

1303
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 10: have a rooting interest rooting interest. And I think you know,

1304
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 10: I talked about Bob Jenkins, who I just thought the

1305
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 10: world of and what you meant to him, and Bill

1306
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 10: Benner that Chap just mentioned, and you know, we mentioned

1307
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 10: John Poppy Smith. You know, people who called in and

1308
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 10: have relatives, and I think most people that listen to

1309
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 10: this radio station know of you. But you're more than

1310
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 10: just a guy with the hat, and you're an example

1311
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 10: not only of the way to go about things, and

1312
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 10: I think you represent Indiana football and vice versa, because

1313
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 10: you go about it with a game plan. You go

1314
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 10: about it by focusing on the part that matters and

1315
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 10: taking advantage of the opportunities before you. And that means

1316
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 10: watching your team play for a national championship. And I

1317
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 10: hope they win it for you. But even if they don't,

1318
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 10: I hope that people listening can watch the game with

1319
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 10: no rooting interest and say, you know what, I'm rooting

1320
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 10: for that dude, Jay Law, because he deserves to be

1321
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 10: there and he deserves to see it.

1322
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 18: I appreciated me and with between family, friends and my faith,

1323
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 18: I've got this thing lick. So I've got a plan.

1324
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 18: As long as I haven't plan, I'm good.

1325
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 4: Be safe tonight.

1326
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 10: Keep an eye on John too, all right, that's a chore,

1327
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 10: that's right, all right, Man, will be hearing from John

1328
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 10: coming u about three o'clock. That is our buddy Jaylaw

1329
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 10: down in Miami with the Bulls Eye Vent group. And

1330
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 10: certainly wish him the best, and I'm glad that he's

1331
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 10: able to be down there. Soak it in and enjoy it.

1332
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 11: We have good news. What's at it, jav successfully connected.

1333
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 11: We have checked in. John is alive, he is well,

1334
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 11: and he's all ready to go for three o'clock, so.

1335
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 10: You and I can actually theoretically head out by ten

1336
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 10: after right, that's right, Well, do we make sure that

1337
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 10: he's up and running.

1338
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 4: But here's the thing.

1339
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 11: Do we think JV realizes he has to go until

1340
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 11: six thirty tonight because we have pacers in action against

1341
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 11: the seventy six ers starting against six thirty, So there's

1342
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 11: no instant replay, there's no cults programming to get him

1343
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 11: from six to six thirty. I think John knows that yet.

1344
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 4: I would bet that he does not. You might have

1345
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: to run that past him.

1346
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 11: I'll let James break bad news.

1347
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 10: Maybe you and I are coming back in it's six

1348
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 10: thirty or thirty minute stint? You mean six o'clock or yeah,

1349
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 10: six o'clock for a thirty minute stint?

1350
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 4: All right, we come back.

1351
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 10: Zach Ostroman Ostraman going to join us down in Miami,

1352
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 10: coming up two o'clock. But two three nine ten seventy

1353
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 10: is the telephone number, two three nine ten seventy. I

1354
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 10: want to know whether it's yourself, whether it's a family member,

1355
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 10: whether it's somebody went to school with. Is there somebody

1356
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 10: that has made you an Indiana fan? Is there somebody

1357
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 10: that you'll be thinking about tonight. Maybe that is it

1358
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 10: somebody that you're watching the game with and then don't

1359
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 10: realize how much it means to you that you can

1360
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 10: watch them enjoy this. I would like to know if

1361
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 10: anybody has those thoughts, and we also will have more

1362
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 10: thoughts on the news of the day in the NFL

1363
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 10: as well. Next, the last time Indiana won a national

1364
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 10: championship amongst the major sports, I should say, I mean,

1365
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 10: that's that's no disrespect to other sports. I want in soccer,

1366
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 10: but you know, between football and basketball eighty seven. Now,

1367
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that I was a zealot for Indiana,

1368
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 10: but I could sit here and actually give you verbatim

1369
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 10: the entire postgame interviews off the top of my head.

1370
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 10: I mean literally, somebody sent me a thing saying, Ricky Callaway,

1371
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 10: if they win, it is Ricky Calloway gonna say, and yes,

1372
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 10: in fact, he said, I just want to say hi

1373
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 10: to Mom, Dad, Jamie, back home, Trent, and then he

1374
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 10: puts his arm up.

1375
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1376
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 10: Many years later I said to Ricky Callaway, I recited

1377
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 10: that to him, and he said, Man, I'd forgotten that

1378
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,640
Speaker 10: Trent was my nephew, or is my nephew, Jamie is

1379
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 10: his sister.

1380
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 4: Mom Dad love every minute of it.

1381
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 10: And I watched the last eight minutes of the nineteen

1382
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 10: eighty seven National Championship game and the postgame celebration every

1383
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 10: single morning of my last two years of high school.

1384
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that means I'm neurotic, but it was

1385
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 10: a good luck thing, so I have it slightly memorized,

1386
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 10: all right. So who are we pulling for tonight? We're

1387
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 10: pulling for Indiana, but we're doing it in the memory of,

1388
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 10: or in the tribute to, or along with whatever it

1389
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 10: may be Who and I don't mean who, who Hoosiers?

1390
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 10: Who is it that has inspired you to root for

1391
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 10: Indiana tonight? Rob joins us on the show to talk

1392
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 10: about that. Hi, Rob, how are you?

1393
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing great?

1394
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 17: Jake, how you doing?

1395
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 7: Sir? You know what?

1396
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 4: I'm fired up?

1397
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 17: I am fired up to I am a Benner. So

1398
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 17: Bill Benner obviously is who were rooting for tonight, because

1399
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 17: I'm sure he's down there and already doing his fun.

1400
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 17: But for my father, Larry, who passed away two years

1401
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 17: ago on January fourth, big IU guy and never got

1402
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 17: to see IU football at this point, So I'm sure

1403
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 17: Bill is going to be rooting for Dave and Larry

1404
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 17: tonight when he's watching the game and we're all fired up. Jake,

1405
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 17: I'm in all red and I can't wait.

1406
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 10: Well, Rob, listen, I know how much it means to

1407
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 10: and is Larry. So when you say you are Benner,

1408
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 10: so your father is Bill and David Benner's brother, correct,

1409
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 10: the oldest brother?

1410
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 17: Yes, sir?

1411
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 10: Okay, Well listen, I know what IU has meant to

1412
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 10: not just those guys, but obviously you know your grandfather

1413
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 10: as well.

1414
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 4: So for all of them, but in particular in this case, Larry,

1415
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 4: we say, go hoo's yours?

1416
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 17: Where was the sycamore? Though he didn't go to IU?

1417
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 17: He was the only one that didn't go to IU.

1418
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 17: He was a sycamore?

1419
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 4: I was he a fan of IU?

1420
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 6: He was?

1421
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 10: Yes, Sir, I was going to say otherwise he was

1422
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 10: kicked out of the family and knowing the Benners. All right,

1423
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 10: appreciate it, Rob, We got it down for Larry. Up next,

1424
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 10: Let's go to Jim.

1425
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: Next.

1426
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 4: Jim, how are you are you doing?

1427
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 6: Great? Jake?

1428
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 4: Who are you thinking about?

1429
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 19: I think about my son Chris Joddo, who played quarterback

1430
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 19: for IU back in the early seventies, nineteen seventy three,

1431
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 19: seventy seven, and he is down there right now. And

1432
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 19: I have a special interest in because I grew up

1433
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 19: in Columbus, Ohio during Woody Hayes days, and I was

1434
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 19: set a boxes Ohio State san until my son went there.

1435
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 19: So I you and I seen what those young men

1436
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 19: did and grew had developed under Bill Battery. They didn't

1437
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 19: win a whole lot of games, but they became together

1438
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 19: as a team. Always talks about a team, and it

1439
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 19: was ever a team to follow. Is the IU Hoosiers

1440
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 19: right now.

1441
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: It's been really terrific.

1442
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 10: To follow them ninety three to ninety seven for Ditto.

1443
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 10: Now here's the thing, Jim and I hope to have

1444
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 10: Chris on a little bit here. He actually you talk

1445
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 10: about Ohio State and being a Woody Hayes guy, Chris

1446
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 10: Dido had perhaps his finest game against Ohio State. Correct,

1447
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 10: I mean, you want to talk about somebody that is

1448
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 10: a young guy made a start in a raucous environment

1449
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 10: against Ohio State and stood and looked toe to toe

1450
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 10: with Ohio State.

1451
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 4: He did exactly that.

1452
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 2: Right, exactly, and he was a red well, he was

1453
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: a retro freshman.

1454
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 19: He was forhomore year, but he was his first year,

1455
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 19: his first starts, and he had thrown five passes in

1456
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 19: his whole career. It was at Ohio State, That's a

1457
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 19: place where I grew up, and they just lost I

1458
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 19: think by four points. Chris said, two tds and it

1459
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 19: was really really upstanding, terrific. I had to took back.

1460
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 19: It's at that time. Of course I've been growing up,

1461
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 19: was onto that stadium with my dad so many times.

1462
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 19: But it was a wonderful, wonderful time. It was all

1463
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 19: what sport was about. It was about just giving tough

1464
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 19: and s staying in there. That Chris had a good

1465
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 19: career and played a little bit in the NFL. Do

1466
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 19: you think you're going to speak with him a little bit?

1467
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 10: I told him, certainly today or tomorrow. The problem is,

1468
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 10: I don't know now. I shouldn't tell you this, Jim,

1469
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 10: but I mentioned him yesterday. I reached out to him,

1470
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 10: said hey, I want to get you on today because

1471
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 10: he's been nice enough to come on several times. And

1472
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 10: he said, I'll try, but I'm going to be tailgating now.

1473
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 10: I said, you know what, that's even better. We just

1474
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 10: need like a three minute scene of the sights and

1475
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 10: sounds of the tailgate, right, but he's soaking up every

1476
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 10: minute of it, and he's with a lot of guys

1477
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 10: that I know are like brothers to him, enjoying that.

1478
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 10: And so therefore we're going to try to get him.

1479
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 10: But I certainly understand if they're swept up in the moment,

1480
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 10: you know what I mean.

1481
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 19: Well, I just talked to my daughter in there together

1482
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 19: at a tailgate about an hour ago. So I will

1483
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 19: give him a call to ask him to give you

1484
01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 19: a call.

1485
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: Thing also because.

1486
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 19: When I was in Ohio, grew up there, I met

1487
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 19: Woody Hayes and when the year Chris was born in

1488
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 19: nineteen ninety three and he signed a football to Chris

1489
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 19: t would OSU in nineteen ninety three, and that became true.

1490
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry he was born.

1491
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 4: Well, no, I I get it. Yeah, we'll see you

1492
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 4: when you're when you're older.

1493
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 10: And then of course he saw him when Indiana went

1494
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 10: and like I said, he had a great game in Columbus,

1495
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 10: which back in those days was not always easy to do.

1496
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 10: Totally appreciate the call, Jam and hopefully we will catch

1497
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 10: up with Chris. Keith is up next?

1498
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 4: What's up?

1499
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 7: Keith.

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 20: Hey, Jake, really enjoy your broadcasts, like the silly questions

1501
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 20: you asked a lot of times.

1502
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 4: You're the latch. You're the one, Keith. We appreciate it.

1503
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 13: Well.

1504
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 6: You know.

1505
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 20: Today I'm thinking of my father in law, whose name's

1506
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 20: Joe Milin. He was a doctor down below me, a

1507
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 20: general surgeon, and he was a diehard Indiana fan at

1508
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 20: the season tickets for basketball and football and and so

1509
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 20: he died passed away in January. I can't remember the

1510
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 20: exact date, twenty three, twenty twenty three. So he's about

1511
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 20: three years shy of of seeing Indiana football succeed at

1512
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 20: something spectacular.

1513
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: So I think of Joe.

1514
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 20: One quick story related Joe.

1515
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 21: He was so into Indiana athletics and that that when

1516
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 21: Bob Knight came to Indiana, and I think that's that

1517
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 21: it was the.

1518
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: First year and he was recruiting Ventson but Butner, Quinn Butner.

1519
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 20: He flew he had his own private play and he

1520
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 20: flew up to Chicago to pick up Butner and bring

1521
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 20: him down to India for a visit. So he did

1522
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 20: things like that a lot for Indiana athletics.

1523
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 10: So I'm thinking of Joe Milin all right, Joe Milin,

1524
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 10: I got it, Doctor Joe Milin, passing away in January

1525
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 10: of twenty three, appreciate the call. And lastly, one of

1526
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 10: the guys that, at least for this particular installment of

1527
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 10: this one of the guys that I've thought a lot about,

1528
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 10: because in the time that I've done sports talk radio

1529
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 10: in Indianapolis, which has been longer than I probably at

1530
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 10: times even believe, this guy has been as loyal towards

1531
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 10: Indiana football from day one as anybody. And even in

1532
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:40,639
Speaker 10: the doldrums of winless seasons and embarrassments and fingersnap whispering

1533
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 10: the fight song and five overtime wins over Akron, this

1534
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 10: guy has stood by him through and through. Turned buckle Bill,

1535
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 10: who probably is painting his face as we speak.

1536
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 4: What's up, Bill, shit?

1537
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 22: Thank you for those kind word, good friend. Yet I

1538
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 22: haven't had this kind of anticipation since my son was

1539
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 22: born forty years ago. I'm walking around my house like

1540
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 22: I was pacing in the Saint Vincent's waiting room back

1541
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 22: on September ninth of nineteen eighty five.

1542
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: So I'm fired up. I'm ready. I really want to.

1543
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 22: I went my first IU football game in nineteen sixty eight.

1544
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 22: But I watched my first IU football game in nineteen

1545
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 22: sixty seven.

1546
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 7: My mom was a.

1547
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 22: Professor emeritis in the School of Medicine, iupy speech mythology,

1548
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 22: and they had a closed circuit broadcast. And people don't

1549
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 22: realize that back in the sixties there was one college

1550
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 22: football game on each week.

1551
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: It was broadcast by ABC.

1552
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 22: Keith Jackson was always the announcer, and that's all you got.

1553
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 22: So we had to go see the game on closed

1554
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 22: circuit TV. Of course, Terry Cole ran off with a

1555
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 22: couple of fifty yard runs, John Eisenberger, Jade Witzer, Harry Gonzoe.

1556
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 22: So they won that game and went to the Rose Bowl.

1557
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 22: But I want this game to go to my mom

1558
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 22: and my dad, and my dad taught me how to

1559
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 22: be a fan. And the things that you said were

1560
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,680
Speaker 22: things that he passed down to me. And I can

1561
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 22: only quote Jackie Greason and say, oh, how sweet it is.

1562
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 4: Bill. What's you think I got? What are your mom

1563
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 4: and dad's names?

1564
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 22: My mom's name was Sally and my dad's name was Bill.

1565
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 4: Last name if you don't want to give last name,

1566
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 4: I get it.

1567
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 22: Bowman.

1568
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 10: Sally and Bill Bowman who I'm telling you, and you

1569
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 10: know what, I'll tell you what TV. Here's the other thing.

1570
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 10: Your dad didn't just teach you about being a fan.

1571
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 10: He taught you loyalty. Because I've seen that first and foremost,

1572
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 10: just the loyalty you show to the radio station, to me,

1573
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 10: to Derek back in the day, to John, to all

1574
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 10: of us, and to the pacers as well. I know

1575
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 10: what being a fan you exhibited every single time I

1576
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 10: see you, for that matter, and you are one of

1577
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 10: the guys I've thought about, man, I think about you.

1578
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 10: I think one time I even saw you wearing ridiculous

1579
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 10: red and white overalls or something like that. So I'll

1580
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 10: be cheering for Bill and Sally and also for you

1581
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 10: as well termed buckle Bill.

1582
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 22: I appreciate. I want to I want to make two predictions.

1583
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 22: Number One, Fernando Mendoza will beat them tonight with his legs.

1584
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 22: He will get two to three runs. That will he

1585
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 22: will accumulate fifty yards in pressure situations and put them

1586
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 22: in the good field position.

1587
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: That is going to happen, okay.

1588
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 22: And the next the next prediction I have is the

1589
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 22: next coach in the Buffalo Bills is gonna be Pete Carroll.

1590
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll see about that.

1591
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 10: We'll see whether Pete Carroll because his age, I mean,

1592
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 10: at this point, you know, I that may be. I

1593
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 10: think Pete Carroll's a heck of a coach, don't get

1594
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 10: me wrong.

1595
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 4: But we'll see.

1596
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 10: If Buffalo, it seems like Pete Carroll and Josh Allen

1597
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 10: would be a good a good match, no doubt about that.

1598
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 11: I'm the way going to promote their offensive coordinator Joe Brady.

1599
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 4: Well, Jack, I feel like those.

1600
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 11: Will promote their offensive coordinator, Joe Brady.

1601
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 10: You would think they had to have something immediately in place,

1602
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 10: right if they're going to make that change with Sea

1603
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 10: mc durmott. I do know this, and this is the

1604
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 10: neuroticism of the way my brain works. If Turnbuckle Bill's

1605
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 10: son was born on September ninth, nineteen eighty five, that

1606
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 10: means that his son was two days old when Pete

1607
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 10: Rose got his four thy one ninety second hit off

1608
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 10: Eric Show. How I remember that and failed algebra seven times?

1609
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 10: I got fit zero idea, Don Fisher on the call

1610
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 10: and that fabulous win against Oregon and D'Angelo Pond's getting

1611
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 10: things started.

1612
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 4: He will be on the call tonight.

1613
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 10: You can hear the pregame at six thirty on our

1614
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 10: sister station ninety three WIBC. Kickoff seven thirty Indiana and

1615
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 10: Miami in the National Championship Game. Hey, Jake, not only

1616
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 10: for all my fellow Hoosiers, alum, but I want this

1617
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 10: from my father in law. Who's your Bob Tischner. I

1618
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 10: hope I'm saying the last name correctly, by the way,

1619
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 10: t I h E n O R. Bob has followed

1620
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 10: Indiana football since the early fifties when his brother Jack

1621
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 10: played for IU. Bob and his brother started Tis bookstore

1622
01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 10: at IU. Man I loved Tis. Never paid enough, that

1623
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 10: is correct for your used textbooks, but I loved them. Jeremiah,

1624
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 10: longtime listener of this radio station. Jake, from my father

1625
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 10: who passed away from an mi I thirteen years ago.

1626
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 10: I assume that means Mayo cardial infarction, which is a

1627
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 10: heart attack. He was a graduate of IU and IU

1628
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 10: Law School. A lot of people, by the way, to

1629
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 10: their father in law as opposed to their father. But

1630
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 10: no matter who it is that you are motivated by

1631
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 10: or thinking up tonight, I love the continued shout outs.

1632
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 10: Caitlyn Clark, by the way, sending a post on the

1633
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 10: ex post Twitter simply saying like, let's go Indiana football.

1634
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 10: We are all rooting for you, Eddie. I was thinking

1635
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 10: about this during the playoffs. You and I made our

1636
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 10: game predictions, and there was one game that we There

1637
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 10: was only one of the three that we agreed upon.

1638
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 4: Do you remember which one it was?

1639
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 11: I do remember we both took the Houston Texans, and

1640
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 11: I told you right then in there we would be wrong.

1641
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1642
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 10: It's funny because I had said every time you what

1643
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 10: did I say about games in New England in the postseason?

1644
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 10: It's always like rainy, gross and foggy and misty and cold,

1645
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 10: just ugh. And that's exactly what you had yesterday. And

1646
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 10: c J Stroud. I'm not saying the weather was the

1647
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 10: part of it, but man, he looked out of sorts.

1648
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 10: He looked like a guy that never played in that.

1649
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 10: I mean it's not just I mean you could sit

1650
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 10: there and say, like, didn't he from California or wherever

1651
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 10: he's You know, some were warm. Most guys in the

1652
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 10: NFL are probably from warmer weather climates Texas, Florida, California.

1653
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 10: But that was a poor performance. So and now you

1654
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 10: had the Rams of the Seahawks.

1655
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 11: I took the Seahawks, you took the forty nine ers.

1656
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 11: I took the Bears. You took the Rams. Okay, and

1657
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,879
Speaker 11: then I took Denver. You took Buffalo.

1658
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Buffalo, man.

1659
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 10: Here's another thing thing where in zach Ostraman Ostraman going

1660
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 10: to join it a couple of minutes from now, another

1661
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 10: area where I'm convinced of the bot farms. I sent

1662
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 10: simply a post saying how poorly the game was officiated

1663
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 10: at the end of the Buffalo game, and it turned

1664
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 10: into I don't know three hundred replies, all of none

1665
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 10: of which are people that follow me, and all of

1666
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 10: which were assuming I met the pass interference. I didn't

1667
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 10: mean the pass interference. I met the interception, and as well,

1668
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 10: the missed the missed safety that would have taken place

1669
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 10: with the hold in the end zone. I mean both

1670
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 10: both ways. Terribly officiated game. But I but I did

1671
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 10: say that I thought Buffalo got jobbed. I did on

1672
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 10: that on that interception.

1673
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:41,839
Speaker 11: I disagree.

1674
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 4: Okay, what was it called yesterday?

1675
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: Uh?

1676
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 11: Yesterday? And what play?

1677
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 10: The exact same play, the exact same play took place

1678
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 10: last night, and it was called a catch.

1679
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 11: I disagree. There were two different elements a part of

1680
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 11: the catches that I won't get too far into.

1681
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 10: But he had the ball, he had control of the ball,

1682
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 10: his knee was down and then he was touched.

1683
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 11: The element that's different between Devantae Addams and Brandon Cooks

1684
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 11: is the fact that Cooks was going to the ground

1685
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 11: and Adams came straight down two feet, so he had

1686
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 11: already established the two feet. The third element of it

1687
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 11: for Devanta Addams was tucking it in and so as

1688
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 11: soon as he goes down to the ground, he's down

1689
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 11: by contact. The element for Cooks that's different is he

1690
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 11: was going straight to the ground and because of that

1691
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 11: he has to maintain possession of the ball through the

1692
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 11: entirety of the process, and he didn't. That was the

1693
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 11: only different That's the difference between the two, very very

1694
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:35,879
Speaker 11: small details.

1695
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 4: I get it.

1696
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 11: There was also a play earlier in the year Kate

1697
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,799
Speaker 11: Adten was playing Sunday Night football the Bucks in the Rams.

1698
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 11: There was simultaneous possession of the ball, his knee went down.

1699
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 11: They ruled the interception at the time as well, so

1700
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 11: there was consistency in that regard to me.

1701
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 4: The bigger thing to me actually is also the fact

1702
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 4: it wasn't even challenged. Maybe it could have been. I

1703
01:27:59,680 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 4: don't know.

1704
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 11: They reviewed it. All turnovers are reviewed by the booth anyway.

1705
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 10: I mean they did review it because it seemed like

1706
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 10: all of a sudden it was just boom. It was

1707
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 10: the possession change. But either way, Zach Osterman Osterman down

1708
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 10: in Miami joins us next Eddie Garrison putting together our intro.

1709
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 10: Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers on the call.

1710
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 10: Of course, you heard from Kurt Signetti there, you heard

1711
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 10: from Fernanda Mendoza, Indiana tonight against Miami in the National

1712
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 10: Championship Game. And as I mentioned earlier, which I'll get

1713
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 10: more into later in the program, it is fitting perhaps

1714
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 10: that this National Championship Game comes on doctor Martin Luther

1715
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 10: King Junior Day, the obviously his birthday, celebrating his birthday,

1716
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 10: but also his meaning within place and not to in

1717
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 10: any way, shape or form equate to sport what people

1718
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 10: went through throughout Civil rights and the things that doctor

1719
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 10: King went through, But there is a lesson in all

1720
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 10: of it, throughout civil rights to know that strength comes

1721
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 10: within uniformity and not through individuality, and I think this

1722
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 10: Indiana football team exhibits exactly exactly that, because this is

1723
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 10: a team that, yes, we have heard so much about it.

1724
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 10: They may be transfers, they may be older, more experienced players,

1725
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 10: but they are players that all know their individual job

1726
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 10: and they trust the individual individual job of their teammate

1727
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 10: to do the same. And the collection of everybody doing that,

1728
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 10: that uniform process is what has Indiana on the doorstep

1729
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 10: now of the first national championship in the school's football history.

1730
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 10: Zach Osterman joins us now from Miami. He is with

1731
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 10: the Indianapolis Star and is the beat writer for Indiana football. Zach,

1732
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 10: first off, just set the scene, because somebody just told

1733
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 10: me that already down there they are telling people to

1734
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 10: start heading towards the stadium because of the president, you know,

1735
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 10: coming to the game. And in addition to that, just

1736
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 10: the overall getting in aspect of it that it already

1737
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 10: is starting to back up just a little bit. But

1738
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 10: what's the what's the overall sense and feel in Miami?

1739
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean the sort of local feedback I think

1740
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 14: even before anything else was the hard Rock Stadium is

1741
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 14: already not particularly well well equipped for the big crowds

1742
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 14: and that people need to need to be kind of

1743
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 14: prepared for that. I will freely admit that that we

1744
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 14: and the media are going to be getting a police

1745
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 14: scored up there. So I mean, we're gonna have to

1746
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 14: get there I think about four hours for the game,

1747
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 14: but well we should be more al right than most

1748
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 14: in terms of getting in.

1749
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: But it's listen, it's you know, it's I think there's

1750
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: there's excitement around.

1751
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 14: It's it's not quite like, for example, the Peach Bowl,

1752
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 14: probably a little bit more like the Rose Bowl in

1753
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 14: the sense that the game is not in the same

1754
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 14: centralized location where all the fans are. You know, fans

1755
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 14: have uh, you know, in Atlanta kind of aggregated downtown.

1756
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 14: That's where the stadium was, and so you did have

1757
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 14: I mean, you know, it felt like an SEC championship game. Frankly,

1758
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 14: especially if like Georgia or Alabama was in town. This

1759
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 14: feels a little bit more like the Rose Bowl where

1760
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 14: it's going to be you know a lot of people

1761
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 14: kind of converging from from parts a little more distant

1762
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 14: Miami fans because a lot of them are probably just

1763
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 14: coming from home in Indiana fans because you got some

1764
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,799
Speaker 14: South Beach. I think you got some up in midtown,

1765
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 14: some downtown, some stand further up the coast toward the

1766
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 14: Isles and Fort Lauderdale.

1767
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 1: But I think it's it is.

1768
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 14: I think the word has pretty well gotten out that

1769
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 14: people need to be prepared to get there early enough

1770
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 14: that I don't think anybody's going to get blindsided by

1771
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 14: traffic close to game time.

1772
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 10: Okay, let's get to what Don Fisher and I were

1773
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 10: talking about earlier, Zach. But that is from what you've

1774
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 10: been able to gather in talking with Kurt Signetti, listening

1775
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,760
Speaker 10: to the players, and et cetera. As Indiana has done

1776
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 10: their research now on Miami, what is it about the

1777
01:31:56,520 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 10: Hurricanes that jumps out to you, or more specific to

1778
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,799
Speaker 10: what Indiana appears to be aware of about Miami.

1779
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 14: I mean, I think the thing that you can't stay

1780
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 14: from Miami more than anything else at that pass rush,

1781
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 14: you know. I know some people have said the statistically

1782
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,679
Speaker 14: Indiana's pass rush is actually a little bit more productive

1783
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 14: or a little bit more consistent. I would argue there's

1784
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 14: not a more disruptive rush in the country, you know,

1785
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,759
Speaker 14: with with bain Mesa door Moteen.

1786
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 1: You know, I went back and watched some of.

1787
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 14: That Ohio State film, and I know Ohio State offensive

1788
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 14: line wasn't necessarily been to this year, but I mean

1789
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,560
Speaker 14: it was. You know, it was terrifying at times just

1790
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 14: how how chaotic they got, how hectic. You know, they

1791
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 14: were sort of able to kind of make that front

1792
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 14: and really just mix things up and get Julian Sane

1793
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 14: out of his comfort zone. Very similar frankly to what

1794
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 14: Indiana did do Ohio State. I think, you know, it's

1795
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 14: we could talk a little bit about the other side

1796
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,879
Speaker 14: of the line of scrimmage and the sides of Miami's

1797
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 14: offensive line.

1798
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: What they're good at, what they're not, maybe not the

1799
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: most mobile, but very very strong.

1800
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 14: They played tight splits, they'll kind of lean on you.

1801
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 14: But that Miami defensive line and Miami pass rush specifically,

1802
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 14: I think that is where, for my money, the game

1803
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 14: is won and lost. If Indiana can control that, I

1804
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 14: think the path to a Miami win becomes just devilishly narrow.

1805
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 14: And if Indiana can't, that's when I think you start

1806
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 14: presenting Miami some opportunities to look this game up, to

1807
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 14: turn it into something that looks a little bit like

1808
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 14: the Texas A and m game like the Ohio State game,

1809
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 14: or especially the Ohio State game, or Miami gets out

1810
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 14: ahead and Ohio State just has to spend too much

1811
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 14: time clawing back into the game to ultimately win it.

1812
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, more than.

1813
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 14: Anything else, I'm watching that Miami defensive front versus Indiana's

1814
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 14: offensive line off. Frankly, Indiana's offensive game plan. We've seen

1815
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 14: them go with two tight ends. We've seen them in

1816
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 14: this playoff go with sixth linemen and throw an extra

1817
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 14: lineman out there for some of their run sets. We

1818
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 14: saw that against Alabama. I think Indiana would be would

1819
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 14: do well to bring some of that back on the

1820
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 14: field tonight and just maybe try and take the legs

1821
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 14: out from under that pass rush, wear them down as

1822
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 14: the game goes on, and maybe by the third, by

1823
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 14: the fourth quarter, it's just not getting home, you.

1824
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 4: Know, Zach.

1825
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 10: Earlier someone sent me a message that said, Kurt Signetty

1826
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 10: might be a great coach, but rather he's a great

1827
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 10: He's great at getting twenty five year olds to play

1828
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:12,839
Speaker 10: in college football.

1829
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 4: What can be said to.

1830
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 10: Dismiss the theory or to I guess you know the

1831
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 10: point of Look, these are all five and six year

1832
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 10: guys and productivity over potential, et cetera. What are the

1833
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 10: realities and the numbers for Indiana in terms of their

1834
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 10: experience versus others.

1835
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 14: I mean, they are experienced that they are not they

1836
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 14: are not overly So it's a little bit overplayed, I

1837
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 14: think because people have looked for reasons why Indiana doesn't

1838
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 14: fit the mold of you know what. In fairness, people

1839
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 14: have been you know, mocked the blue Tip ration and

1840
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 14: all that. But listen, you know, we had twenty twenty

1841
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 14: five years of evidence of sample size that said, if

1842
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 14: you didn't recruit at this level, if you didn't produce

1843
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 14: NFL players at this level, you probably weren't going to

1844
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 14: win a national championship.

1845
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: And we can go back to the eighties and seventies.

1846
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 14: And we can look at your Georgia Techs and your

1847
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 14: by US and you know, some other teams that want

1848
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 14: it all back then that maybe maybe weren't quite as

1849
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 14: talented and maybe, you know, maybe we're just entering a

1850
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 14: different era.

1851
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think.

1852
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 14: People reached for Indiana's age as an explanation for why

1853
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 14: the Hoosiers, you know, maybe we're able to kind of

1854
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 14: defy that convention, they are older. You know, they were

1855
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 14: not statistically the oldest team in this playoff, and I

1856
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 14: forget who was a couple of different people crunch the

1857
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 14: numbers and I don't have them right in front of me.

1858
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 14: Forgive me, but they're not statistically the oldest team in

1859
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 14: this playoffs. They do have some old guys. It's we're

1860
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 14: saying the oldest starters in this game are playing for Miami,

1861
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 14: not for Indiana. But I think because Indiana sort of

1862
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:56,839
Speaker 14: embodies a lot of these these overturned conventions in college football,

1863
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 14: that you can that you need three or four years

1864
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 14: to flip a roster, you need an elite level of

1865
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 14: talent to win at the top of the conference, like

1866
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 14: the big thing of the SEC. You know that you

1867
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 14: can that you can do what Indian, what Chrisigetti had

1868
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 14: done in a program like you. I think people have

1869
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 14: reached for the sort of most easily explainable factors, and

1870
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 14: age is undeniably.

1871
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:16,679
Speaker 4: One of those.

1872
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think I think it has gotten overplayed

1873
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: at this point. I think just how old Indiana is.

1874
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 4: The game itself.

1875
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 10: Zach Indiana, by the way, Zach Ostman's our guest Java

1876
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 10: House peel and poor guest line. Indiana has played in

1877
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 10: big games this year. At Oregon was huge, you know,

1878
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 10: the Big Ten title game here was huge, The Rose Bowl,

1879
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 10: the Peach Bowl. Which one do you think in terms

1880
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 10: of expectation, fan excitement, pressure, people doubting them, et cetera.

1881
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 10: Which game or moment this year do you think is

1882
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 10: most prepared Indiana for this moment?

1883
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 1: Probably the Ohio State game.

1884
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 14: I think I think we would have said the the

1885
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 14: first Oregon game until we got to this playoff run.

1886
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: But I think the Ohio State game was the one

1887
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: that came with it. Number one. You know, it was

1888
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: it was very fifty to fifty in that stadium.

1889
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,560
Speaker 14: It was a dome environment so that the noise was

1890
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 14: trapped in, but it was you know, it wasn't like

1891
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 14: the Rose Ball, wasn't like the Peach Ball. And it's

1892
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 14: not gonna be that way tonight, you know, in terms

1893
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 14: of it's not going to be heavily Indiana fans. But

1894
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 14: I don't think it's gonna be heavily Miami fans either.

1895
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 14: I think it might be a you know, thirty five,

1896
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 14: sixty five, forty, sixty, fifty fifty maybe even I guess

1897
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 14: Some of it will probably depend on who gets a

1898
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 14: hold of the you know, the lion's share of those

1899
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 14: sort of neutral corporate seats in the middle, but more

1900
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 14: in terms of the hype around the game, the intensity

1901
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 14: of the attention, the distraction, the you know, just all

1902
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 14: the things that could sort of shake Indiana away from

1903
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 14: what has made Indiana so good this season. And then

1904
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 14: of course the physical demands of that game that was

1905
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 14: you know, I would argue that is the only other

1906
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 14: defensive front that Indiana has seen this season that is

1907
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 14: that is as good as the one they're going to

1908
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 14: see tonight with Kayden Curry and rvel Reefs and you know,

1909
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 14: the sunny styles coming up towards the line of scrimmage

1910
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 14: and all.

1911
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 1: That kind of stuff. I think, both in terms of

1912
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,959
Speaker 1: the physical test and also.

1913
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 14: Maybe in terms of the test of how you handle

1914
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 14: the build up, how you handle the attention, how you

1915
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 14: handle the in game adjustments, I think that Ohio State

1916
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 14: game is probably the most analogous experience so.

1917
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 6: Far this year.

1918
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 4: Have you noticed any change at all, Zach Eddy?

1919
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 10: And I'm not asking that rhetorically, I'm legitimately asking have

1920
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 10: you seen any change in Indiana's mood, looseness, you know, tightness, focus,

1921
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 10: whatever might be. I mean, this is such an uncharted

1922
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 10: territory for any program, really, but for Indiana specifically and

1923
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 10: everything that goes into the commitments, the obligations, the media,

1924
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 10: all of it. Have you noticed any sort of change

1925
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 10: of demeanor of Indiana.

1926
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 14: No, to be honest, that was actually one of my

1927
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 14: biggest takeaways from the media day that they held here

1928
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 14: on Saturday. They had you know, basically all of both

1929
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:20,360
Speaker 14: staffs and both teams over at the South Miami South

1930
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 14: Beach Convention Center. And you know, I wouldn't say Indiana

1931
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 14: was too loose. You know, they weren't arrogant, that no

1932
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 14: one was making you know, predictions or anything like that,

1933
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 14: but there was a sense that they just that this team,

1934
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 14: you did not get the sense they were tense or

1935
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 14: tight or anxious at all. I think, you know, I

1936
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:47,600
Speaker 14: think it's Mike Nigelick, my colleague, and I kind of

1937
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 14: got into an argument over this, A good natured argument,

1938
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:51,919
Speaker 14: of course, but an argument over this on our podcast

1939
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 14: yesterday where I said, and Mike disagreed that he felt

1940
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 14: he felt this quite as palpably that I thought there

1941
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 14: was some of that head of the Rose Bowl.

1942
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Not a ton, but I thought it was.

1943
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,480
Speaker 14: I thought it was tangible, especially just just the anxiousness

1944
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 14: of the long layoff and wanting to get playing again,

1945
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 14: wanting to get back into that rhythm, being almost like

1946
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 14: annoyed more than anything else, that they had to spend

1947
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 14: so much time waiting for between the big championship game

1948
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 14: and the start of the Rose Bowl, and how do

1949
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 14: they manage all that time off and when do you

1950
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 14: start prepping for the actual game itself and all these

1951
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 14: different considerations. I think the Peach Bowl and the National

1952
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 14: title game, this team has found that rhythm again. That's

1953
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 14: sort of that you know, this is okay. Maybe there's

1954
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 14: an extra day or two, but this is just a

1955
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 14: game week, it's another game, it's another opponent. Here's how

1956
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,759
Speaker 14: we scout, Here's how we prepare, Here's how we recover

1957
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 14: from the last game. Here's how we get ready for

1958
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 14: the next one. And I think that it was tangible

1959
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 14: to me. And this may matter, it may not, we'll see,

1960
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 14: but it was tangible to me. I didn't since Miami

1961
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 14: was nervous or anxious or overconfident or whatever. I don't

1962
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 14: know Miami as well, though I know Indiana. I've been

1963
01:40:56,040 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 14: around this team all season. They were the same, you know,

1964
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 14: in the in the sort of forward facing build up

1965
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 14: to this game that they have been all the way

1966
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 14: back to Old Dominion on August thirty first or whatever

1967
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 14: that was. There is there is no tangible change.

1968
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 10: What about from the Miami standpoint, Zach Zach Osterman's my

1969
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 10: guest Indianapolis Star where you can read his work and

1970
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 10: his coverage of this game in Indiana all year long.

1971
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 10: He's on the Java House Peelinport guesstline. Java house dot

1972
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 10: com is the website from the Miami standpoint, In talking

1973
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 10: and listening to Mario Christobal and their players, was there

1974
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 10: anything aside from what you would expect them to say

1975
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 10: about did they did they tip the hand at all

1976
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 10: as to what their game plan or their angle that

1977
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 10: they're going to take with Indiana that jumped out of you.

1978
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 6: No.

1979
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 14: Again, I think you know, you sort of feel this

1980
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 14: in a in an Ncuba tournament setting too, and that's

1981
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 14: a little different Final fourd and national title game turn

1982
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 14: because there's there's so little time that you know, nobody's

1983
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 14: going to try and reinvent the wheel. But by by

1984
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 14: the time you get to that point in the season,

1985
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 14: and my experience, if you are still playing, if you're

1986
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 14: still in a semi final, if you're playing in a final,

1987
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:13,600
Speaker 14: a title game, you know, generally your attitude is a

1988
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 14: lot less about.

1989
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: Here are all the.

1990
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 14: Things we have to worry about on the other side

1991
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 14: of the line of scrimmage. Here all the clever ways

1992
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 14: we're going to, you know, scheme against their pressures or

1993
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 14: against their run fits, or against their receivers or their

1994
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 14: route combinations. And it's a lot more just sort of, hey,

1995
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 14: we trust what got us here. You know, this is

1996
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 14: our identity, This is who we are. This is how

1997
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 14: we won, you know, in Indiana's case, fifteen games, in

1998
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 14: Miami's case, thirteen games, or maybe it's fourteen now I

1999
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 14: can't remember, but you know, this is how we this

2000
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 14: is how we got to this place, to this point,

2001
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 14: and we're not going to change who we are. We're

2002
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 14: going to, of course build the game plan to fit

2003
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 14: this opponent's strength as opposed to that opponent strengths and whatever.

2004
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 14: But I think in the same way that Indiana didn't

2005
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 14: feel really affected by this game, you know, you've got

2006
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 14: a real sense that Miami just sort of said listen.

2007
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 14: We are you know, we're a physical team. We're a

2008
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 14: tough team. We take a lot of our identity from

2009
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 14: our head coach, who of course was an offensive lineman

2010
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 14: at Miami.

2011
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 1: But it's really, I think it's.

2012
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 14: Worth saying, really try to sort of like push away

2013
01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 14: these sort of the old perceptions of the U, and

2014
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 14: the U is back, and like he's really since he

2015
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 14: got to Miami, christ Ball has been very sort of like,

2016
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,560
Speaker 14: you know, this is about this team, this program, the

2017
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 14: identity of this group. And we're not talking about trying

2018
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 14: to be what we were in the eighties or what

2019
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 14: we were in the nineties. We're trying to talk about

2020
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 14: what we're going to be right now. And I think

2021
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 14: Miami has that mentality coming into this game of we

2022
01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 14: trust what goddess here. We're tough, we're physical, we're strong,

2023
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 14: we're athletic. Obviously they're playing Oh, I think that's going

2024
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 14: to be an advantage for them. You know, they haven't

2025
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 14: had to. I think they've been in a team hotel

2026
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 14: all week, but they've been using all their own facilities.

2027
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,560
Speaker 14: They'll be in their own locker room tonight. You know,

2028
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 14: all that stuff, all that familiarity will probably help. I

2029
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 14: don't think either of these teams is, you know, it's

2030
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,720
Speaker 14: coming into this game thinking we are going to do

2031
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:06,799
Speaker 14: something dramatically different to try and sort of outstrategize the opponent.

2032
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 14: I think there's a lot of at this point, Listen

2033
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 14: to hey is in the barn. We are who we are,

2034
01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:12,639
Speaker 14: we believe in who we are, and we believe that's

2035
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:14,240
Speaker 14: going to be good enough to win us the game tonight.

2036
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 10: What percent of hard Rock Stadium tonight do you believe

2037
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:18,719
Speaker 10: we'll be wearing red?

2038
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2039
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 14: I mean I'll be a little conservative and say I

2040
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 14: think maybe thirty five percent, maybe forty. I know there

2041
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 14: are some people who and I'm not smart enough to

2042
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 14: read ticket trends and things, I know there are some

2043
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 14: people who have said they think that that the way

2044
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 14: that tickets have been moving, the cost, the place that

2045
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 14: they've been purchased from, et cetera, suggest that Indiana fans

2046
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,759
Speaker 14: might outnumber Miami fans. There is also, as I mentioned earlier,

2047
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 14: that huge chunk of neutral tickets and you don't know,

2048
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,920
Speaker 14: like like basically corporate tickets, and you don't know who's

2049
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 14: going to wind up with those. Did that lean more

2050
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 14: toward Miami because we're in Miami and maybe just like

2051
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 14: some local businesses and things bought some of those up

2052
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 14: long before they knew who's going to be in the game.

2053
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't.

2054
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 14: Think it's I would be surprised if it is a

2055
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 14: true road atmosphere for Indiana.

2056
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 1: I think it's.

2057
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 14: I think it is going to be tangible, the Indiana

2058
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 14: noise in the Indiana support.

2059
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:15,760
Speaker 10: In that in that stadium tonight, because my understanding is

2060
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 10: that basically from Oh, I don't know, like Daytona South,

2061
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 10: it has been nothing but people wearing red at every

2062
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,799
Speaker 10: bar and restaurant for like a four hour span throughout

2063
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 10: South Florida and Central Florida and North Florida.

2064
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 4: Correct.

2065
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again like it's it's not like Atlanta.

2066
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 7: Like I was.

2067
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 14: I've met a friend for coffee the afternoon of the

2068
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 14: Peach Bull and All high school friend who's a Georgia fan,

2069
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 14: and we were just walking around downtown, just just catching up,

2070
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 14: and he was remarking the same thing I was, This

2071
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:44,760
Speaker 14: feels like when George is in town. We're now with

2072
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 14: Amazon Town. But that's different because you know that game

2073
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 14: is built to be hosted by downtown Atlanta you can

2074
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 14: get to the you can get to downtown on the

2075
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 14: train in fifteen minutes. There's some of the hotels. The

2076
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 14: stadium is right there. It's walkable. This is not that

2077
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:00,559
Speaker 14: way like hard Rock Stadium is up in Miami Gardens.

2078
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:03,599
Speaker 14: You know, downtown Miami has horrible traffic. Something I think

2079
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 14: a few of us have learned to our own to

2080
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 14: our own.

2081
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,719
Speaker 1: Expense in the last the last few days.

2082
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 14: And there's also the element too, like you know, I've

2083
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 14: had some people say to me, you know, I see

2084
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:16,639
Speaker 14: Indiana fans outnumbering Miami fans wherever I go, and it's

2085
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 14: sort of like, get that. But remember that a lot

2086
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 14: of Miami fans aren't where you're going because they live here.

2087
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 14: They're not they don't have to go out to eat

2088
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 14: every night because they're just at home. It'll feel different

2089
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 14: in the stadium. But again, I think we have seen

2090
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 14: Indiana fans. I would even go back to the regular season.

2091
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 14: You think about the extent to which Indiana fans probably

2092
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 14: outnumbered Purdue fans.

2093
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,600
Speaker 1: In Les Lafayette. I was on the sideline at the

2094
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: end of the Maryland game.

2095
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 14: There were probably fifteen to twenty thousand Indiana fans in

2096
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 14: the stands at Maryland, Like this fan base has absolutely

2097
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 14: kind of rallied behind the idea of following this scene,

2098
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 14: you know, all the way, Like it's you know, I

2099
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,519
Speaker 14: love European soccer. It is a badge of honor to

2100
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 14: be part of a group of fans that follows the

2101
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 14: team home and away all year long, and the teams

2102
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 14: that have like won European Cups and champions leagues. You'll

2103
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 14: have old timers who will tell you about, you know,

2104
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 14: all the crazy travel stories about how they got to

2105
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 14: Berlin or how they got to Appens, or how they

2106
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 14: got to Paris or whatever, you know, bunking in the

2107
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 14: backseat of vans and stuff like that, sleeping on the floors.

2108
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 14: Like there's gonna be I think winner lose tonight. I

2109
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 14: think there's going to be some of that with Indiana

2110
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 14: fans in years to come, that this team in particular,

2111
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 14: in this run, this kind of march to the National

2112
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 14: Championship game, there are a lot of people that are

2113
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 14: going to be talking about, you know, just sort of

2114
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,759
Speaker 14: throwing causing to the wind and saying, I'm following this train,

2115
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 14: you know, however far it rides down down the track.

2116
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 4: Zach when you were what year did you join the

2117
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 4: Indianapolis Star.

2118
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen?

2119
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 10: Okay, because my and I apologize for asking it this way,

2120
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 10: My years all kind of run together. I know that

2121
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 10: you guys, you know, do a variety of different beats.

2122
01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 10: You have not been on the Indiana beat that entire time.

2123
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 10: I'm correct.

2124
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 1: I was hired to the IU beat, So I've been.

2125
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 14: I was working the IU beat for someone else for

2126
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 14: twenty four seven sports, and then before that, I was

2127
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 14: in grad school and I was part time and I

2128
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 14: worked a little IU, a little Notre Dame, a little

2129
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 14: Purdue back in college sports that covered Indiana for the IDs.

2130
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 14: But when I was hired, since I've gotten the Star,

2131
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 14: I've only been okay, India.

2132
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 10: So my apologies for that. But the reason I ask

2133
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 10: you know, and again my timelines all get blurred. But

2134
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 10: I'm talking about and asking about, and I will give

2135
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 10: you the opportunity to a pine on this as well.

2136
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 10: People that you're happy for for this run, people that

2137
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 10: were diehard fans of Indiana or any other football that

2138
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 10: are no longer with us or that are with us,

2139
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 10: and you're just thrilled because they have been loyal through

2140
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:53,879
Speaker 10: and through and you know, I mentioned Bob Jenkins for example.

2141
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 10: Several people have mentioned Bill Benner, our friend jaylaw Turnbuckle,

2142
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 10: Bill that listens to the show. A number of different

2143
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 10: people have called in with their tribute, and somebody just

2144
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 10: pointed out and I'm embarrassed, and I did not think

2145
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,919
Speaker 10: of this earlier. Terry Hutchins, who worked on the Indiana

2146
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 10: beat and was you know, wrote several books about Indiana

2147
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 10: both from a basketball and football standpoint, and was truly

2148
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 10: a true gentleman and was always a good friend to me.

2149
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 10: And I think to those that worked with him, is

2150
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 10: another that yes, there's a professionalism and an objectivity that

2151
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 10: comes with covering a beat, but Terry, who was a

2152
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 10: native Californian, became a Hoosier through and through, and I

2153
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 10: think he also would have loved to have covered this run.

2154
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 10: So certainly, thinking of Terry Hutchins, anybody that jumped out

2155
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 10: at you throughout your journey and covering this team's act

2156
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 10: that you think about and you say to yourself, it

2157
01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 10: is my professional obligation to simply cover the story. But

2158
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,559
Speaker 10: I have to admit that I'm happy for this person.

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean, I think I will freely admit that

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01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 14: there are probably more people than I can name, and

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01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 14: I'm scared to even start listing them because I'll forget somebody.

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01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 6: I think.

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01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 14: You know that I wrote a little bit about this

2164
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 14: epis Big Ten Championship game about different you know people

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01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 14: like like I think anyone who knows Indiana football knows

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01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 14: Mark Deal, whose father played with George Telly Farrow on

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01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,799
Speaker 14: the forty five team, whose brother Mike was a captain

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01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 14: on the sixty seventeen that went to the Rose Bowl.

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01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 14: Mark was in tears on the field at Lucas Oil

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01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 14: Stadium and he grabbed me and hugged me, and he said, finally,

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01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 14: the third Deal is going to a Rose Bowl, or

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01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 14: you know, something like that.

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01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember.

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01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 6: Exactly what he said.

2175
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 14: I talked to Scott Dolson and he reminded me of

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01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 14: Andy Hipskin, who was Indiana Chief Medical officer for many years,

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01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 14: who've had to cancer a few a few years ago.

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01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 14: I also think you know it in terms of you know,

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01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 14: people who are still with us. But I've had these

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01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 14: conversations in text friends with old friends from from college,

2181
01:50:54,120 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 14: and you know, I never was because of my sort

2182
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 14: of career path and my time at the IDEs. I

2183
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 14: have no animosity at all toward io athletics. It's it's

2184
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 14: given me, you know, a career, it's given me some

2185
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 14: of my most rewarding professional moments. But I also was

2186
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 14: never really pulled into the idea of being an IU fan.

2187
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 14: But I have many friends who were. And I have

2188
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:24,600
Speaker 14: so many friends who thought this moment would come, but

2189
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 14: they thought it would come in basketball, and that they

2190
01:51:28,520 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 14: never really thought that this would be a moment they

2191
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 14: could enjoy in football, and even last year, like I

2192
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 14: have friends who were so even last season, remained kind

2193
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 14: of skeptical, kind of you know, sort of, yeah, this

2194
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 14: will be a one season thing, but but we're not

2195
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 14: getting latched onto it. I you know, I had had

2196
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 14: these conversations really the last two games in particular, just

2197
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 14: saying listen, like, enjoy this and it doesn't matter in

2198
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 14: some ways if if they win or if they lose,

2199
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 14: because you know, I said this, I literally just said

2200
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 14: this to a few old fraternity brothers, Like years from now,

2201
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 14: you will tell your kids you were at the Rose

2202
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 14: Bowl or the Big Ten Championship game or the Peachful.

2203
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 14: You will describe the noise that that that you know,

2204
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 14: I mean quite literally hurt my ears. Whendy Angela Pons

2205
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 14: picked that pass off and ran it into the end

2206
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 14: zone against Oregon on the first step of the game.

2207
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 14: And your kids first question is not going to be

2208
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 14: did they win it all? Your kid's first question is

2209
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 14: not going to be, you know, like it was it

2210
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 14: worth it?

2211
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Because they lost to Miami? It was It's going to

2212
01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: be something like, tell me about it?

2213
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 7: What was it?

2214
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 6: Like?

2215
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 1: How special was that?

2216
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 14: And I've just sort of told people and try to

2217
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 14: enjoy this, like I, you know, I said this to

2218
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 14: my friends. I said, I can't enjoy it the same

2219
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 14: way that you can. It's incredibly professionally rewarding for me

2220
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,680
Speaker 14: to cover a story like this, you know, for me

2221
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 14: to have a a you know, sort of like a

2222
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 14: kind of a tale, to try and chronicle the way

2223
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 14: we have these last two years.

2224
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,240
Speaker 1: And I've had my moments. I'm not trying to make

2225
01:52:59,280 --> 01:52:59,759
Speaker 1: some of myself.

2226
01:52:59,880 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 14: Like I had a slightly emotional moment at the Peach

2227
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 14: Bowl thinking about growing up wanting to be a reporter

2228
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:08,799
Speaker 14: covering SEC football and growing up going to Peach Bowls

2229
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 14: and remembering, you know, all the big games that used

2230
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 14: to be played at the Old Georgia Dome and thinking

2231
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 14: about like this is where my career has kind of

2232
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,639
Speaker 14: finally brought me full circle.

2233
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 1: But I can't enjoy it the way they can.

2234
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 14: And when I've just tried to tell people, is I

2235
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 14: hope I hope you drink it in because stuff like this,

2236
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:27,959
Speaker 14: especially this only happens once. Like you know, maybe Indiana

2237
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 14: goes on a run here. They certainly have the resources,

2238
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 14: They've obviously got a head coach who's committed. Maybe Indiana

2239
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,800
Speaker 14: is back on a stage like this in the not

2240
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 14: very distant future. But the first time always feels different,

2241
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 14: because it feels like the when everything is new and

2242
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 14: when everything seems unlikely, and there are like I said,

2243
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 14: I mean, I could sit here and name you so

2244
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 14: many people that you know, Lee Butler, and I mean

2245
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 14: just people who've been around IU football forever, and frankly,

2246
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 14: I think you know people like this too are probably

2247
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 14: in a weird way, more connected with IU football than

2248
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 14: I you basketball. For whatever reason, it just grabbed them

2249
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 14: in a different way. Who thought that, you know, their

2250
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 14: lot in life forever would be to be staring up at.

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01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 1: Someone else's success.

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01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:19,639
Speaker 14: Connor Hitchcock, my good friend who who's who's the elf

2253
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 14: found home field of peril in Indianapolis. There are genuinely

2254
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 14: so many people, and like I said, what I've told

2255
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 14: people is just enjoy this because whether you win, whether

2256
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,880
Speaker 14: you lose, you will only get to do it like

2257
01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 14: this one time, and years and years from now, you

2258
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 14: may remember that you won a national title. But what

2259
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,160
Speaker 14: you will remember more than anything else is all the

2260
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 14: stuff that happened along the way that you thought was impossible,

2261
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 14: that you thought was was just was was you know,

2262
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 14: someone else's birthright, But it found you, and it found

2263
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 14: your program, and you just try to enjoy it as

2264
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 14: much as you can.

2265
01:54:56,720 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 10: One game for Indiana four quarters, Zach Osterman. Either way

2266
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 10: it goes, we'll have all of the coverage for it

2267
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 10: at the Indianapolis Stars. That good luck getting in the

2268
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 10: stadium with the police escort, and appreciate the time as.

2269
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 1: Always, absolutely thanks for having me, Zach.

2270
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 10: Austraman joining us on the Java House Peel and poor

2271
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 10: guest line, all right, we come back. He did remind

2272
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 10: me of somebody right there. That is a story that

2273
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,680
Speaker 10: I think speaks to a lot that you can appreciate

2274
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 10: and respect when it comes to this journey and this storyline,

2275
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 10: and I think Ditto's going to check in from a

2276
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 10: tailgate next.

2277
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 4: And Mendoza takes the snap, wants to throw it fires

2278
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 4: a dawn of the field. It's for Elijah.

2279
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 11: Soronti makes the touch, textem.

2280
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,680
Speaker 3: Eli the Serette seventeen yard.

2281
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 4: Pick for today in Indiana's back on Top. Don Fisher

2282
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:49,760
Speaker 4: on the call.

2283
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 10: I believe that was from the Rose Bowl against Was

2284
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 10: that the Ohio State game?

2285
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 6: Sorry?

2286
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 10: That was the Ohio State Elijah Surratt touchdown. I should

2287
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 10: have done that because he said back on Top never

2288
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 10: trailed against Alabama. You heard mentioned there by the way

2289
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,879
Speaker 10: from Zach, and I appreciate him saying so about Andy Hipskin,

2290
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 10: and that got me thinking as well about I did

2291
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 10: not know, And it would be disingenuous for me to

2292
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 10: say that I knew all of these guys to the

2293
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 10: level that others did, that I knew in Indiana, But

2294
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 10: I did know Andy Hipskin. Clipper was his nickname in

2295
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 10: college because he gave haircuts. But he went on did

2296
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 10: Andy Hipskin as a Bloomington resident and native to attend

2297
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 10: Indiana and then go to medical school at Indiana, where

2298
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 10: he lived with my dearest friend Kevin Turhan Danner. The

2299
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 10: two of them were roommates, and unfortunately Turhan passed away

2300
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 10: and then later so too did Andy Hipskin from cancer.

2301
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:53,960
Speaker 10: And Andy Hipskin loved Indiana football, loved it, and I

2302
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 10: think it was his dream job to work for Indiana,

2303
01:56:56,680 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 10: to help the athletes of Indiana. And he was loyal

2304
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 10: through and through to Indiana and was an inspiration for

2305
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 10: that football team and for all that knew him really

2306
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 10: in the way and the grace and the dignity, dignity

2307
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 10: with which he handled the adversity that came his way

2308
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 10: due to the illness. Jason Grumbacher was another guy that

2309
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 10: Andy Hipskin was very close with in college that was

2310
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:22,120
Speaker 10: lost due to COVID during that terrible pandemic.

2311
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 4: And Grummy, as.

2312
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 10: People who knew him at Carmel High School and Indiana

2313
01:57:27,640 --> 01:57:32,120
Speaker 10: University did called him, that was his nickname. Those two

2314
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 10: were very close with one another. And they were also

2315
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 10: very close with a guy by the name of Andy

2316
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,560
Speaker 10: Cleman that I know from Carmel who when I would

2317
01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 10: go to Indiana football games as a student, Andy Kleman

2318
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 10: was the one guy that was down there always trying

2319
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,880
Speaker 10: to get the student section, like rallied around and tried

2320
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 10: to get them to do whatever they could to get

2321
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 10: the football team going. And Andy Kleman, who became a

2322
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 10: deputy mayor of Indianapolis and is still an active part

2323
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 10: of the community here and as who's your through and through.

2324
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 10: And I think about Andy Kleman because I think about

2325
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 10: the fact that he's got to be thinking of this

2326
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 10: game and his buddies, Jason Grumbacher and Andy Hipskin, and

2327
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:10,680
Speaker 10: that's what it's all about, is just a camaraderie, the

2328
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 10: brotherhood of all of it. And joining us now a

2329
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,440
Speaker 10: guy that knows a little about that because he has

2330
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 10: been with his brothers that he played football with four

2331
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 10: years and has been talking to us throughout the course

2332
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 10: of this journey. Chris Ditto joining us on the program.

2333
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 10: And I'm hoping, diddo that you are like nine deep

2334
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 10: at a tailgate.

2335
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 13: You could be correct there almost the double digits. But

2336
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 13: I mean, we we did start early, and we've got

2337
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 13: to pace ourselves. Jacobs, I mean, what what are we

2338
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 13: almost three o'clock?

2339
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:45,640
Speaker 4: Five hours some kick right?

2340
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:46,080
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2341
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 13: No, yeah, it's amazing. But what a monday, Hell, what

2342
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 13: a freaking monday we're having?

2343
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 10: Okay here, how Red is the state of Florida right now.

2344
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 10: In terms of my medic you can make your own

2345
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 10: joke there, but in terms of hear, I hear that

2346
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 10: basically the entire southern half of flo as Kream and Crimson.

2347
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 13: Yes, I it's you know, I would guess it's going

2348
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 13: into the stadium. I think it'll be sixty five percent

2349
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 13: Indiana fans at a minimum. And I honestly think Miami

2350
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 13: fans have heard about how well I you fans have

2351
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 13: been traveling, and I just don't think they took it seriously.

2352
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 13: I think they're all walking around now in the tailgate

2353
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 13: lots shocked. I think they're all just like, oh my gosh,

2354
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 13: we are outnumbered, and it's clear. It's very clear.

2355
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 10: Now are you at the stadium yet, because my boots

2356
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 10: on the ground tell me that, like, it's a nightmare

2357
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 10: getting in because of the traffic and obviously the president

2358
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 10: and the security that goes in with it.

2359
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 4: You your location is where I'm in a.

2360
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 13: Parking lot right outside of the stadium. We left our

2361
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 13: condo this morning at probably ten thirty. And that was

2362
01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 13: really motivated by me because I'm with a group of

2363
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 13: about twelve people and originally they're like, let's leave it

2364
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 13: one o'clock and that was probably five days ago. And

2365
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 13: then the longer we hear about the security and how

2366
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 13: tough and the traffic.

2367
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 4: Wait, it took us.

2368
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 13: It took us twenty five minutes, no traffic. We got here,

2369
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:08,840
Speaker 13: and we're so happy we left and we did because

2370
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 13: we're hearing the same kind of issues that, yeah, if

2371
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 13: you didn't leave around ten thirty or eleven, you're gonna

2372
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 13: get stuck in traffic, and we didn't and we've been

2373
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 13: having a great time.

2374
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:20,800
Speaker 10: Okay, lastly, diddo, you know, your dad called in earlier,

2375
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 10: by the way, which was cool because we're having people

2376
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 10: call in of who they are rooting for, you know,

2377
02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 10: the game other than rooting for IU, like who they

2378
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 10: want it for, and he was talking about you and

2379
02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,520
Speaker 10: just what it meant to see you play for Indiana.

2380
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 10: So I got two part question. The first is this

2381
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:37,000
Speaker 10: okay on the serious side or on the on the

2382
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 10: joking side. I mean, give me the guy, the former player,

2383
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 10: the teammate, the buddy years, whatever that. Whenever you're trying

2384
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 10: to organize this and get everybody into the tailgate lots,

2385
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,280
Speaker 10: it's like hurting cats because there's one guy that just

2386
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 10: always goes.

2387
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 4: Rogue and you never know what's going to happen.

2388
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 22: Who is it?

2389
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if you remember the name.

2390
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 13: There's a few, I can name a few, but Jamie

2391
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:59,480
Speaker 13: Baisley was one of my roommates for five years. Love

2392
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 13: him like a other And just so you know, he

2393
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 13: stayed single till he.

2394
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 4: Was forty five years old. That gives you and I

2395
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 4: guess of how rogue he would go.

2396
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 13: And he's still he's still rogue, although he now is

2397
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 13: happily married and has a wonderful wife and kids. But no,

2398
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 13: he'll we've been down here for the last few days

2399
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 13: and he was the guy that, uh, we'd be like,

2400
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 13: where's Baisley? And you never knew And it was great

2401
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 13: because it was we lived by curiously. Those of us

2402
02:01:25,880 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 13: who got married with twenty three lived very vicariously through

2403
02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:30,840
Speaker 13: those types of guys that got married when they were

2404
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 13: forty five. So yeah, yeah, but so but you know,

2405
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 13: saw so many guys last night at dinner, and like

2406
02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 13: we talked about last week at the Peach Bowl and

2407
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,960
Speaker 13: the Rose Bowl, and it's it's just been an incredible ride,

2408
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:47,920
Speaker 13: incredible run, and everyone here I think, is you know,

2409
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 13: as Indiana fans, they're just they're just anxious.

2410
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:50,839
Speaker 17: We're just anxious.

2411
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 6: You know.

2412
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 4: It's one of those days.

2413
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 13: We're like, we don't want the day to end, but

2414
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 13: we also want the game to start.

2415
02:01:55,560 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 10: So so just to make sure, so Brett Law has

2416
02:01:57,800 --> 02:01:59,720
Speaker 10: stayed on the right side of the law the whole time, right.

2417
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:03,280
Speaker 13: Yes, they have the saw Brett last night and he

2418
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 13: was vertical, he was upright.

2419
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 4: That's good. Great, that's good, Okay, all right.

2420
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 10: Lastly on the serious side, Chris, and then we're gonna

2421
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 10: let you go in and enjoy the game. And I

2422
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 10: appreciate the time throughout this run. But tell me the

2423
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:21,480
Speaker 10: person or persons that when this thing, because I do

2424
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 10: think they're gonna win. But either way, when the ball

2425
02:02:23,640 --> 02:02:27,080
Speaker 10: is kicked off and the National Championship is underway, tell

2426
02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 10: me the person that will make you a little bit

2427
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:30,720
Speaker 10: emotional because you'll think about him and you'll think this

2428
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:31,320
Speaker 10: is for them.

2429
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:35,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean it's probably the guy that you know

2430
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 13: that we all played for in the nineties was Bill Mallory.

2431
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:42,280
Speaker 13: I think that is that's the most obvious answer for me,

2432
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 13: because I know, I know he saw Kurt Mallory this

2433
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 13: week and hurt was incredible and he was so honored

2434
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:51,680
Speaker 13: to talk on behalf of his dad because you know,

2435
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 13: like what Kris said, he he never he was became

2436
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 13: a bigger Indiana fan after he was fired, which is

2437
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 13: the kind of loyalty that Mallory had along with along

2438
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 13: with you know, all of his family and but for

2439
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 13: me personally, also my family. You know, my family, we

2440
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 13: didn't my family, my teammates, the guys that I've kind

2441
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:15,760
Speaker 13: of that we've lived Indiana football over the last thirty

2442
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 13: plus years. And I'll be watching the game with my

2443
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:19,960
Speaker 13: wife and I mean we shed it tier after the

2444
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 13: Rose Bowl, and I think we'll be very, very emotional

2445
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 13: during this game along with you know, my kids aren't here.

2446
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:30,720
Speaker 13: I wish they were, but they you know, my son's

2447
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:34,000
Speaker 13: in Bloomington, he's on Kirkwood right now. He's very lucky

2448
02:03:34,040 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 13: to be a senior and living his best life as well.

2449
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,360
Speaker 13: So just Hoosia's everywhere.

2450
02:03:40,280 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 4: Just we're just so happy.

2451
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:43,760
Speaker 13: And as I saw Mark Deal, I don't know if

2452
02:03:43,760 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 13: you've ever talked to Mark Deal, he's been you know,

2453
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 13: he played for Lee Corso and he's a legendary I

2454
02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 13: you coach and Hoosier but saw him Thursday night and

2455
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:54,760
Speaker 13: you can see kind of the anxiety and the stress

2456
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:56,720
Speaker 13: on his face because he's just like, we've got to

2457
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 13: finish this.

2458
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 4: We've just got to finish it.

2459
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 13: And just got to finish it.

2460
02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 10: Heck of a run either way, but I and I

2461
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 10: do think they're gonna do it. But Chris, listen, I

2462
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:08,160
Speaker 10: appreciate it. If we don't get a chance to talk

2463
02:04:08,160 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 10: to you tomorrow, travel back safe. You have no idea

2464
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 10: your travel plans, and it may be that you don't

2465
02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 10: even go to bed till this time tomorrow, you know

2466
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 10: what I mean.

2467
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 13: I've heard some of the offers to Fernando Mendoza and

2468
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 13: the team, some of the clubs that are going to

2469
02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:23,360
Speaker 13: open at two thirty or three for them, and it

2470
02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:24,080
Speaker 13: could get.

2471
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:27,840
Speaker 4: Really fun really all right, Well, keep an eye on

2472
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:28,320
Speaker 4: Brett Law.

2473
02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:31,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, Terri, Well, thanks for as always to go

2474
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 13: Hoosiers all.

2475
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 10: I appreciate it. Chris did joining us down in Miami.

2476
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 10: We'll take a quick recess, we'll come back, put a

2477
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 10: tie on all of it and hand it off to

2478
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 10: John who is going to be down at the Bullseye

2479
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 10: Event Group tailgate in South Florida, Indiana National Championship Monday.

2480
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:50,960
Speaker 3: Here on the fan, three receivers too dear side one

2481
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 3: to the far that's Surat. Here's the snap, here's the

2482
02:04:55,920 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 3: throne catch us made touch Don Fisher on the call.

2483
02:05:07,560 --> 02:05:12,640
Speaker 10: In the game that probably saved the season for Indiana

2484
02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 10: because it looked like they were down and out in

2485
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:18,200
Speaker 10: Iowa City after coming off that remarkable win against Oregon,

2486
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 10: and then.

2487
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 4: They were They had a costly pick.

2488
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 10: Iowa got I think a field goal, but Indiana was down,

2489
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 10: and then Elijah Surrat with that touchdown in Indiana goes

2490
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:37,200
Speaker 10: on to win, and now here they are four quarters away,

2491
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 10: one game away, one win from becoming the first team

2492
02:05:44,040 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 10: since Yale I Believe in eighteen ninety five to go

2493
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,320
Speaker 10: sixteen and zero in college football, but more specifically to

2494
02:05:50,440 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 10: be the undefeated national champion. JMV is down in South Florida.

2495
02:05:54,520 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 10: He has been having a lot of fun. You heard

2496
02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 10: Jaylaw talking about the things they've been up to. But

2497
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:02,240
Speaker 10: now he gets set or the broadcast that will lead

2498
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 10: you up to the game itself. Our sister station WIBC

2499
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:07,920
Speaker 10: where you can hear the pregame beginning at six thirty.

2500
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 10: Pacers pregame at six thirty on this radio station JMV

2501
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 10: and Florida as the Crossover, brought to you by Love

2502
02:06:13,880 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 10: Heating and Air Love Dash HVAC dot Com three one seven,

2503
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 10: three five three twenty one forty one. John, I'm assuming

2504
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:21,600
Speaker 10: you got sunglasses on, right?

2505
02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 7: I do have sunglasses on, now, Eddie? Do I sound good?

2506
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 7: And do I look okay? I?

2507
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:30,240
Speaker 23: No, there's just like a silhowett, a dark silhouett of

2508
02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 23: maybe you see the beach and stuff in the background.

2509
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:33,680
Speaker 23: I'm just checking in to make sure because I've done

2510
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 23: all this myself. I'm not a great engineer. I told

2511
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,600
Speaker 23: everybody around here, Jake, I said, once I get all

2512
02:06:39,640 --> 02:06:41,840
Speaker 23: this crap plugged in, don't touch it. I don't care

2513
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 23: if you steal it, but don't touch it'd come near

2514
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 23: it right, it may may go hey, why?

2515
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 7: But Eddie, are we okay?

2516
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:48,840
Speaker 4: Sound good?

2517
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:49,320
Speaker 7: So far?

2518
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:51,920
Speaker 11: You have a nice silhouette, although I can put it

2519
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:54,880
Speaker 11: on display for the Query company stream. But she's got

2520
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 11: a little bit of a tease for those people coming

2521
02:06:56,720 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 11: up at three o'clock.

2522
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 23: A little bit of a tea. That's what I am

2523
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 23: right here, Jake, A big old tease, buddy, big old tees.

2524
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:07,480
Speaker 10: What percent of the stadium. Do you think is going

2525
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 10: to be Indiana fans. I've got people down there that

2526
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 10: send me a thing saying Miami fans are now starting

2527
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 10: to show up and they think it could be fifty

2528
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:16,280
Speaker 10: to fifty. Austraman said he thinks sixty percent in Miami.

2529
02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 10: That would surprise me because half the state of Indiana's

2530
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 10: down there, right I.

2531
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 23: Would be surprised if it's not sixty percent. I you

2532
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:25,800
Speaker 23: in there, really surprised. And people have been telling me

2533
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,600
Speaker 23: down here that deal with with tickets that they think

2534
02:07:28,640 --> 02:07:30,520
Speaker 23: it's going to be seventy percent. I'm just going with

2535
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 23: their expert opinion because I don't really know. You don't

2536
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 23: really know, and certainly the jackasses they're telling us they

2537
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:37,880
Speaker 23: think they know, they don't either. But I would lean

2538
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,320
Speaker 23: on those are the ticket industry that might have a

2539
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:44,240
Speaker 23: pretty fair idea about it, and they're the ones consistently

2540
02:07:44,280 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 23: saying in the last two days that the expectation is

2541
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 23: around seventy. I don't think it'll be that high. I

2542
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 23: think it would be noticeable, There's no doubt about that.

2543
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 23: And I think that's something when you have a team

2544
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 23: Jake that's playing on their home field getting dressed in

2545
02:07:56,680 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 23: their own locker room, kind of used to everything. Not

2546
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 23: everything is really out of whack as it has been

2547
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 23: with IU. I mean that's an advantage for IU when

2548
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:05,560
Speaker 23: you're gonna have that sound of the crowd behind you.

2549
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 23: That's my expectation tonight around sixty.

2550
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now what's the temperature, what's the weather like?

2551
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 23: Well, I'm not gonna say anything about being cold, because

2552
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 23: you know, for Hollywood Beach, Florida, I am right now,

2553
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 23: it's it's cold now. You guys are like seven degrees

2554
02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 23: back there, So I'm not going to say anything about

2555
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 23: being cold.

2556
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:25,280
Speaker 7: But yeah, it just got cloudy and rob bright.

2557
02:08:25,280 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 23: The Atlantic just right behind me here, literally twenty feet

2558
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 23: away on Hollywood Beach, it just got progressively colder.

2559
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 7: I think they sat around sixty eight.

2560
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:37,720
Speaker 23: I think today as a high, it'll be around mid sixties,

2561
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:41,240
Speaker 23: lower sixties for the game later on tonight. Not bad,

2562
02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 23: not bad at all, I don't think for football weather. Now, Hey, Jake,

2563
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 23: are we going to take Betts Odds on a What

2564
02:08:47,920 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 23: time I get over there from here? A little bit

2565
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,920
Speaker 23: later on, I'm gonna driver that's gonna come and pick

2566
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:55,360
Speaker 23: me up. And he's coming to pick me up at six'.

2567
02:08:55,480 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 23: Ten so there's no damn Way i'm going after six

2568
02:08:58,080 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 23: o'clock here. TONIGHT i hope our bosses understand, that not

2569
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 23: a damn way in the.

2570
02:09:01,560 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 11: World just do the show from the, car just picking, up,

2571
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 11: yeah picking with.

2572
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:05,040
Speaker 6: You in the.

2573
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 23: Car yeah, Yeah so, Yeah Kyle knnett secured a driver

2574
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 23: that's picking me up at three at six, TEN i think.

2575
02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:14,360
Speaker 10: You might be, Safe, john because really my understanding is

2576
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 10: it's to use your, term it's food bar right, now

2577
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,760
Speaker 10: trying to get in. There but, yeah you, know, obviously

2578
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 10: AND i understand. It i've been to the five hundred

2579
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:23,920
Speaker 10: where the vice president. Was i've been to a five

2580
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 10: hundred where former. Presidents we're never the sitting. President so

2581
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 10: that alone is going to be from a security, standpoint

2582
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:30,920
Speaker 10: and then the, traffic BUT i think a lot of

2583
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 10: that might be weeded out and you might be on

2584
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 10: the on the smart play, here, Right i'm going to

2585
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:36,920
Speaker 10: guess if you're being picked up at six, ten that

2586
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Speaker 10: you're in at seven oh, five you think, So i'm

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02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 10: probably way optimistic that'd.

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Speaker 17: Be.

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Speaker 10: UH i don't how far is it typically From jaylaw

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02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 10: said it was about twenty five minutes with.

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Speaker 4: No, traffic is that, Right.

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Speaker 23: Jaylaw sitting across from me right, NOW i think about

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02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:54,440
Speaker 23: twenty five minutes we've. Done we've gone back and forth

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02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:56,960
Speaker 23: For Fort lauderdale to hear about three, times it. Seems but,

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Speaker 23: YEAH i think it's something like.

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Speaker 2: That All, right we'll.

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Speaker 4: See I'm i'm going to be optimistic in say seven o.

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Speaker 7: Five yeah It, Hey, Jake, man this is gonna be.

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Speaker 7: Fun it really.

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Speaker 23: IS i hope EVERYBODY i know that if you're not

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Speaker 23: AN iu, fan you're probably, Going, Man i'm getting really

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02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,840
Speaker 23: tired of. This but there are certain moments when you

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Speaker 23: cover sports and you've known this being around here as

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02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:20,600
Speaker 23: long as you, have that are extra.

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Speaker 7: Special and we are living in one of those moments right, here.

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Speaker 10: And this of course in the same stadium where The

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02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 10: colts won A Super, bowl same one where The colts

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02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:35,760
Speaker 10: lost one, too but nonetheless very, surreal very. Bizarre john

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02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 10: will throw it out to you in a couple of.

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Speaker 10: Minutes have fun with the, broadcast and good luck getting

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02:10:38,840 --> 02:10:41,720
Speaker 10: in all, right you got a? Pal thanks, Shake, Okay

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02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:45,760
Speaker 10: so later. TONIGHT i never thought i'd see. IT i

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02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:48,400
Speaker 10: never thought we'd say. It But indiana's going to play

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02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:52,080
Speaker 10: for a national championship in college, football and for all

2615
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:55,600
Speaker 10: of those that called, in for those that we're thinking

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02:10:55,680 --> 02:11:00,040
Speaker 10: about and tributing for, this and for those that do

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Speaker 10: have a rooting, INTEREST i hope you're can enjoy the

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02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:04,080
Speaker 10: game and we will talk about, it break it down,

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Speaker 10: tomorrow and Should indiana win the, game then you can

2620
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 10: be assured that we will be talking plenty about that.

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02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:16,080
Speaker 4: Tomorrow as a matter of, fact the predominance of that.

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02:11:16,200 --> 02:11:19,120
Speaker 11: Game what's your score, Prediction, Jake i've GOT iu winning

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02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:20,920
Speaker 11: twenty seven to.

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Speaker 10: Twenty i'm past the point of Doubting. INDIANA i do

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02:11:26,280 --> 02:11:28,280
Speaker 10: think THAT i saw the over runners forty seven and a,

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02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:31,920
Speaker 10: half brand is eight and a. Half the spread's gone down,

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02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 10: though RIGHT i thought it's gone down to six and

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02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 10: a half.

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02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:36,840
Speaker 11: Now that could have last ONE i saw this morning

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Speaker 11: was in a little.

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Speaker 10: BIT i Think indiana does What indiana. DOES i think

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02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 10: they get an early lead and then they just hold

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02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,800
Speaker 10: on from. THERE i do Think miami's very good. DEFENSIVELY

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02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:49,760
Speaker 10: i don't Think indiana is going to have the wide

2635
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:54,240
Speaker 10: open style of offense that we've, seen BUT i will say.

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Speaker 4: Twenty would you say twenty.

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02:11:57,200 --> 02:12:01,000
Speaker 10: Seven twenty twenty seven to Twenty, Okay i'll say that

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02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:04,560
Speaker 10: defense is awfully, good But i'll say thirty one.

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02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:09,480
Speaker 4: Twenty Three indiana. Wins either.

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Speaker 10: Way we will talk about it, tomorrow we will break it,

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Speaker 10: down and hopefully we will be. Celebrating but for all

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Speaker 10: of you who called in and participated, TODAY i appreciate you.

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02:12:20,120 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 10: Listening we will talk to you, tomorrow and as, ALWAYS

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Speaker 10: i appreciate you listening To Quarry company