WEBVTT - Marty Supreme (feat. Nick) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:11.240 The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome to the Frames per 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.560 Second Podcast, where we are discussing the new film, well 0:00:15.600 --> 0:00:21.040 not new anymore, but highly regarded film. Marty Supreme joining 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:25.239 me today. We are virtual, so we have Nick go On, 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:33.519 roight Man, and Mike. Yeah. All right, so Marti Supreme. Guys, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.160 a lot of people talking about this Best Picture nominations. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:40.919 I want to go around the room and get the 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.600 thoughts of the movie overall from everyone. Nick, what you 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:46.800 think about Martin Supreme? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.680 Super right? Superriight. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.120 I think there's a lot of good things here, but 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.720 y'all know me about the runtime. It was a little 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.200 too strong, little too long in the tooth, a little 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:02.840 bit of in the middle park, but it was it 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.880 was a really really good film. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.000 Rod, what'd you think. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.360 I liked it? It was. It was in my top ten. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.160 I don't know if you remember that. It was eight 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:15.640 in my top ten. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:17.679 I thought it was good. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.480 Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. I went to the theaters 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.039 and yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:32.240 Ken, what'd you think overhyped? I'm like, they really just 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.440 made a movie about it. Man playing playing pink pall, 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:39.600 l Bundy playing paint pall. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.760 Like for real? Like that. That's that's that's what we're doing. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:49.360 That's it. And he only did it twice. Okay, we 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:50.960 just booking and playing. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:55.080 Ten All right, Mike, what do you think about the movie? 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.600 It's rare. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:03.320 It's rare that I agree with ken O really every 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.800 word him just said this. This movie was the most 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.760 overhyped fucking movie I've seen in a long ass time. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:14.079 I was beyond board and it was egregiously long. There 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.000 was no reason for this ship to be two in 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.840 the fucking half hours of this fucking dumb ass trying 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.519 to figure out how he can go play tennis. Get 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:28.519 this ship the funk out of here. Now, he's that 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.280 table centers, that's what he called it. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:36.760 He caught the table to your favorite movie. And you 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.919 know you didn't even catch that. Y'all spoke about it 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:45.880 all the time, right, y'all spoke about the run time 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.560 my sound went out in the theater. Oh this five 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:54.200 minutes that was in the theater. Oh so five minutes 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.320 seeing the sound goes out. It does that for maybe 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:02.760 five minutes. Then they restart the whole movie. They didn't 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:07.240 even just pick up with a sound like the whole movie. Wait, wait, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.720 how far it was five to ten minutes in the 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.160 movie when he was talking to it wasn't that bad. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:13.480 It wasn't that bad. It was when he was talking 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.080 to his uncle and he was telling his uncle, you know, like, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:18.600 I'm going to play over here in this tournament and whatever. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.239 His uncle was like, Bro, you're the manager here is 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.240 like just stay here. It went out through that whole 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.240 part and then they started it over Uh. But to 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.200 you guys's point, it was it was super right. I 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.120 agree with Nick. It reminded me a smashing machine, like 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.280 the person in here is doing a good job, acting 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.760 like Timothy Shalla made it an amazing job. I do 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.360 agree with that, But I'm looking at it, I'm like, Bro, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.400 I don't give a fuck. I don't care, Like I 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.040 like what, I don't care. They never made me care 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.000 about none of this stuff. Bro, the dog, the baby, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.880 the girl. I didn't care about any of that. The 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.520 only thing that held me was the job that Timothy Shalla. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.600 Made was talking about you didn't care about Tyler, Tyler 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:58.400 the creator's hair. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:04.080 That his whole thing cut out, Mike, his whole thing 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.800 could have been cut out. I wouldn't have been mad 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.880 at all if Tyler created like that old everything that 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.840 we got from that led to them, so I at 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.000 least thought they would come back in the But we 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.760 start out with Timothy's alime characters selling shoes in the 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.760 shoe store. We see that he's a good shoe salesman 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.440 kind of because I mean he wants to be manager 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.479 or whatever it may be. But his love interest comes in, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.440 and that is Rachel. We understand that he's known Rachel 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.880 since he was eight years old. She said she lost 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.320 a pair of shoes. They go to the back, they 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.680 do what they do. Was this appealing at all to anybody? 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.040 Not the way you cut it up? Tell me what 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.039 was appealing about it? Then you tell me, tell me 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.400 what you cared about. Go ahead round. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:53.920 No, I thought they. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.880 I thought they established He established himself as a to me, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:01.039 an interesting character, just somebody that's the termin you know, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.239 although he was a good shoe salesman, he still had 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.839 had high hopes for himself, you know, to be you know, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.080 greatest table tennis players. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.440 So now I like I like to start. It was fine. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.120 The energy of it was fine because not just him. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.560 I think the way the pacing of the movie, I 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:19.719 think they did a good job with that. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:25.159 Hm, I wouldn't say it was. It was interesting. I 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.240 think we were so far like right in the beginning 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.279 of the movie. I think, you know, of course, that 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.240 whole storyline comes around later because they did the whole 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.960 little thing with the sperm or whatever. So I think 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.520 it definitely played a part in it later on. So 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:46.120 it was a key moment in the movie. And then, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:49.160 like Rod said, you can see his ambition, his hot 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.040 energy when he's talk is his high belief in. 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:53.359 Himself, you know. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:57.800 So so yeah, so I think, uh, it was, it was, 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.880 it was needed, but you know, it's so early in 0:05:59.920 --> 0:06:01.360 the beginning on the move, it's just like, all right, 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.040 well this at the time was like really didn't know 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.000 it would mean anything. 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:12.039 I didn't This is a Krinsworthy scene early out out 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.920 the gate. To me, Timothy shouting made I don't ever 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.640 want to see another sex scene. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.960 Like all the sex scenes he had. 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:21.080 Bro. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.039 I'm cool on him, bro, he he to me, he's 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.480 not an actor in that way. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.679 So seeing that scene out the Gate. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:28.920 Was just kind of like, all right, I don't give 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:33.880 a fuck immediately about their relationship, especially if you're sucking 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:38.320 a girl behind a shoe store, like that, tell me 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.600 that tell me all I need to know about your relationship. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:42.200 You can't fun, you can't go to a hotel, you 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.760 can't like you fuck her at a shoe store. 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:47.120 But it did. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.080 But I like, to get to Ken's point, it was 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.279 in this show, like around that scene, like he's a 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.840 smooth talker, He's a super confident kind of dude. You 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.560 can kind of tell how the story was gonna go. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.880 It's gonna be based off of him. Believe it in themselves. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:02.800 But yeah, I mean this scene was just like, all right, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.960 let's get let's go through the movie like this can't 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.840 be you know, one of the best parts of the movie. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:11.200 Mike, what do you think? 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.840 I didn't give the fuck at all because the second 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.400 she came in, I was like, Oh, this is a 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:18.720 ploy so he can go on the back and fuck, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.480 that's exactly what I thought. The second she came she 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.960 thought that, Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.400 just didn't believe any of it, so I just didn't 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:29.320 I didn't care. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.160 But I was like, Okay, you're going on the back 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:31.800 to fuck cool. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.800 This movie was getting a lot of comparisons to Uncut Gems, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.760 like the camera work and how it was paced and 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.800 things like that. Did y'all like that, like when you 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.680 first started watching it, like could you see it was 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:50.640 shot differently and things like that, was it shot? It 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.920 was similar to the Uncut Gems type of shooting, like 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.000 they were crediting the director of this of how it 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.600 was shot, like the shaky camera made you feel like 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:02.360 you were there, things of that nature. I didn't. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.200 I didn't, I didn't get I did see that after 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.040 the movie and while I was watching, I didn't feel 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.880 Uncut Gems, But when it was pointed out, I was like, 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.800 I guess that was kind of like Uncut Gems, but 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.880 hm hm, I just feel like Uncut Gems was a 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:15.480 lot more. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.400 It's erratic the word I want to. 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:22.760 Use, like it was just the I don't think the pacing. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.200 It looked like it, but the pacing went as intense 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:27.240 as Uncut Gems to me. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.880 Yeah, it wasn't as intense. Yeah yeah, yeah, it wasn't. 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.600 It wasn't as intense, So I didn't. I didn't get 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:33.800 the parises at first, but I could kind of see. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:37.719 It, but nah, it was more smashing again, it was 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:38.520 smashing machine. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:38.720 To me. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.719 It's like it was a slightly more interesting This was 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.960 a slightly more interesting Smashing Massie. Damn. Like that's how 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.560 and I think that's why I like it. Yeah, I 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:49.880 think I like it because I wanted. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.440 I almost was there with Smashing Machine, but it just 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.360 wasn't quite enough story for me, well to to care. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.320 I mean, it was one of the brothers that did 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.040 that movie uncut Jim. So I don't know if this 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.679 is just how they this is just their director's style, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.960 like and they just move forward with it, because to me, 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:12.800 that's the only real comparison like between those films. But 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:16.280 it is getting to that point I guess for me 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.959 thinking moving forward, like, is this just how they just 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.680 shoot movies and we're always gonna get characters like this 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.120 because then that could get. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:27.000 Redundant after a while. But I do like the look 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:28.920 of this movie though, for this particular movie, I do 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:29.599 like the look of it. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:30.640 Well. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.280 He does it well, he did h I don't know 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.200 if y'all saw a good time. I know Mike's seen it, 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:39.000 but he did good time as well. The Josh Safty, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.000 I think it's his name, and I think he's really 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.439 good at that fast pace directing or whatever. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:45.400 So yeah, if you. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:47.720 Like I said, I just didn't. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:48.040 I didn't. 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:48.439 I didn't. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.520 I noticed it was fast paced, but not in an 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:51.600 uncut jail's way. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.440 I didn't get fast paced from this. I'm that's not 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.760 a little confused with what y'all were saying. I didn't 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.280 get fast paced at all. I got slow shot. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.559 Yeah, the shots that they were doing, it was really quick. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.600 It was really this thing and this thing, and it. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.520 Cuts I think you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, I mean. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.880 That that worked for Good Time because Good Time was 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:17.240 supposed to be very uncomfortable and it were uncut gems 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.199 because it was supposed to be very chaotic and whatever. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.360 It didn't work for this because it was just like, 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:22.920 motherfucker you. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.480 Just playing ping pong and even though even when like 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.560 some shit would pop off, it's like this ship didn't 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.400 last long enough for me to care about the shots 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:32.680 being kind of erradic. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:38.520 So yeah, So we joined Marty as he's trying to 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.680 get to the British Open table tennis tournament. He's having 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:48.079 a conversation with his manager or co owner of his 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:52.080 business to make the ping pong balls, and they're trying 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.920 to pitch the dad on buying the ping pong balls, Like, 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.800 do you guys buy into Marty's hustle? 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.800 Like is he convincing to you? Does he come off 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:02.360 as a fraud? 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.600 What do you think as he's trying to do this 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.960 and get the ping pong balls orange versus what? 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:09.800 This is probably one of the parts of the story 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.520 I just didn't really care about as much the whole 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.760 ping pong ball and and what's crazy is that this 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:16.920 is the one that the thing that they promoted a lot, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:20.560 but I just didn't feel like it was that that 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.400 relevant to the overall story that they were trying to tell. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.920 So that's why I felt like that was gonna be 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:33.720 more important later on than it actually was, because it 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.200 never did anything. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.760 I thought that was gonna be the twenty Like then 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.480 I thought he was gonna get famous from the ping 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.439 pong balls, and we just never got any resolution to that. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:50.000 So did y'all think this is a sports movie? Would 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:58.080 y'all considered a sports movie? Because that's what it's titled 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:03.520 as a sports comedy drama, Like it's a weird like 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.400 they putting a lot of genres into to kind of 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:09.400 explain it. Because I because I think mostly we all agree, 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.040 I came into thinking that this is going to be 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.560 a sports movie, like a dramatic sports movie, and like 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:19.880 you mentioned Ken, it's really just booked in with what 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.880 he's been trying to do. Everything else in the middle 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.920 it is just him dealing with life, which to me, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.480 I guess it just I guess if you go into 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:30.960 a thinking like it's gonna be one thing and it 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.560 just takes another direction, you can be disappointed. Because yeah, 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.360 I agree, like with that scene, the way he was 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.000 breathing life into his friend and then like how his 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.240 friend was like getting more confident based off of like 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.079 just believing in Marty and then trying to get this 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:47.480 thing off. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:48.840 I'm like, Okay, we're about to get. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.720 Into a really good sports movie, like make a dramatic 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.960 ass version of table tennis, however that can be. But 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.360 we spent a huge chunk of this movie not even 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.320 dealing with half of that, you know what I mean? 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.440 Yeah, personally, and I think those were some of the 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.520 better parts of the movies. When he was playing ping 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.640 pong like that actually made it more interesting seeing them play, 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.840 Like when they did the little We'll get to it, 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.760 but when him and the dude were like just showing 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.160 off their skills because dude, it obviously already lost and 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:20.920 they were just doing these different things when they were 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.640 playing ping that shit was interesting. It was interesting when 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.200 he was playing the guy from Japan to me, Mike, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.439 but they should have had more of that in this movie, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:32.800 Like we didn't really need all the extra stuff with it, 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:38.800 what say you money? No, I didn't find any of 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:39.760 ping pong, and. 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.400 None of the ping pong playing was interesting at all. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.240 Like all I got was this is CGI. That's all 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.560 I got. This is a CGI ping pong battle. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.679 You definitely want him playing because they always assume them 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.360 out when he was playing. But I find people like 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.120 when people are good at niche sports like pool and 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.599 ping pong or darts or some shit that's interesting to 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:05.760 me to watch, but I don't want to see a 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.440 movie about it. I might want to watch like a 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:09.480 ten minute. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.240 Match into all my life, but I don't want to 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.120 hear about this dude trying to play ping pong. 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:16.560 And the whole time I don't. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.040 I haven't really watched a lot of Timothy Charlamagne outside 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:25.160 of Dune, but I just kept getting Shilah buff vibes 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.240 for some for some reason, I can't tell if it was. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.160 The accent or what it was. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.800 But I was just like, man, if Shilah Buff hadn't 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:33.240 fucked his. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.200 Career up, this could this could be him. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.560 But at no point was I getting like, oh my god, 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:41.560 this is enthralling. 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:42.600 I hope he. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.720 Saves the dog, Like, at no point was I getting 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.920 any of that, like I hope he wins this ping 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.640 pong match against this guy at the bar. 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.320 It was just like, you wouldn't rooting for me at 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:54.920 any point in time. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.520 No, No, I found him to be annoying, just like 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.240 I found the uncut Gems Fool to be super annoying. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.080 He was that kind of where it's like I don't 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.360 care if you die, damn. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:08.480 So this was like a chore for you to get 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:09.520 through Mike, because if. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.000 You would, if you don't care about their think you 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.080 could get If you don't care about him, this movie 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.160 is because to me I was I was talking to 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:17.920 Jaylen about it. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.280 I was like, to me, this movie is like. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.560 An extreme movie as far as fandom, where if you 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.240 are a Timothy Charla May. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:26.680 Fan, you love this movie. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.720 If you don't know much about Timothy Shaper could give 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.760 a fuck about him, This movie is like not even 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.400 gonna crack your top ten of the year. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:40.600 Yeah, I was gonna say. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.880 I also think it definitely probably put a lot of 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.120 people on to Timothy Challa, may you know, And I 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.280 think they're gonna walk away with like, oh my God. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.800 Like he's he's next, he got the juice. And that's 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.040 what I think is happening. 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.600 I think to your point, for people that are fans, 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.440 it's proof of concept for them. It's like I told y'all, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.680 I told y'all he could he could act, so he 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:01.400 was and uh, you. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.560 Would say this is a movie, Like if people didn't 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.160 know who he was, this is the movie you will 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:05.960 present them with. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.960 Yeah, or the other one there movie I present them with, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.800 it's the one. It's this one of the one way 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.360 you played Bob Dylan. Because they say that both Rose 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.680 wrote no, I just heard both of the roles. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:29.840 Something you ain't got Cleve seen it. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:34.160 He ship. But they're saying they're saying that both of 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.760 these are similar roles though like that they're saying essentially 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.080 it's the same character that he played in the Bob 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.760 Dylan movie. HM, so I would assosed So these are 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.080 the two breakout performances from him, but your kids point. 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.040 I heard his name before I seen him in Doomed, 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.680 I wouldn't like, oh God, let me. But after I 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.800 watched this movie, though, I was like, Okay, I see 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:55.680 I see what they're saying. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.360 That was that was my. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.600 Thing with this is like this was to be like 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:03.720 he's supposed to this is going to showcase him as 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.800 an a lister and all that, and like supposed to 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:10.520 kind of showcase evidence to why people talk about him 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.080 so much. And I think he did carry the movie. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.280 And I don't think he's a bad actor, but to me, 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.800 he's I don't think he doesn't look he didn't. This 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.280 movie doesn't say like oh screams like oh a lister. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.160 This is just not a good It's just a good film. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.680 To me, it's not Denzil in Training Day. 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:29.120 Yeah. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.400 But they're talking about it like this is his Tom 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.960 Hanks castaway moment, Will Smith I am Legend moment where 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.000 it's like this is putting you over the top where 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:38.920 you could carry a movie. 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.840 And to me, it's just like that's a half truth. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:43.399 You know. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.440 I think for us it may not be the case, 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:51.240 but I think for Hollywood and everyone else it is 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:52.480 indeed the case. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.240 Really he might be the guy moving forward. 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.919 I agree with Nick, like it's a half truth in 0:17:58.960 --> 0:17:59.960 the sense of he. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.840 He did a really really good job in this movie. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:04.879 I don't want to take anything away from that. But 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:08.200 it didn't make him must see for me, like I 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.080 don't have to see his next movie. I always like 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.960 that though. No, like if Denzel put a movie out, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.760 I'm gonna watch it. If Leo, if Leo put a 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.560 movie out, I'm gonna watch it. Like they were trying 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.600 to say to Nick's point that he's on that list now, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.399 like if Timothy Shallow may put a movie out, you 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:28.960 need to watch it. I don't think that's the case. 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:30.280 Like we watched. 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:38.800 He's on their list. Yes, they should have given him 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.560 a better subject matter. Yeah, but I guess maybe they're 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.000 looking at it like this. If this motherfucker was able 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.760 to do a movie about fucking ping pong and make 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.800 it entertaining for people like Rod or or I guess 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.680 Nick liked it too, then that's enough. 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.960 Maybe because I can't think of a single. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.760 Actor that could do a movie about ping pong righter 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:03.199 like the Fascinating, like the Ping Pong Ball had to 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:04.000 have a bomb. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.320 Or something in it for me to be like, oh, 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:06.440 getting in tense. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:07.720 But it's just a fucking ball. 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.399 Yeah, I agree, And that's why I keep comparing it 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.200 to The Smashing Machine. I could care two fucks about MMA, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.520 but the Rock made it kind of interesting. The way 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.679 it was shot made it kind of interesting, and I 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.560 think these movies are similar in that sense. Moving to 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:26.160 when he gets to the British Open. He gets there, 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.159 he wins a match. He talks to the head of 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:32.040 Ping Pong in the World or whatever it may be, 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.119 and says his living conditions are unbearable. He should be 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.080 staying at the rich, just like they staying at the rich. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.400 Was this part of the movie convincing to you, as 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.800