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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome to the Frames per

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Speaker 1: Second Podcast, where we are discussing the new film, well

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Speaker 1: not new anymore, but highly regarded film. Marty Supreme joining

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Speaker 1: me today. We are virtual, so we have Nick go On,

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Speaker 1: roight Man, and Mike. Yeah. All right, so Marti Supreme. Guys,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about this Best Picture nominations.

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Speaker 1: I want to go around the room and get the

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Speaker 1: thoughts of the movie overall from everyone. Nick, what you

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Speaker 1: think about Martin Supreme?

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Speaker 2: Super right? Superriight.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of good things here, but

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Speaker 3: y'all know me about the runtime. It was a little

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Speaker 3: too strong, little too long in the tooth, a little

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Speaker 3: bit of in the middle park, but it was it

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Speaker 3: was a really really good film.

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Speaker 1: Rod, what'd you think.

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Speaker 4: I liked it? It was. It was in my top ten.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember that. It was eight

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Speaker 4: in my top ten.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. I went to the theaters

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Speaker 5: and yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Ken, what'd you think overhyped? I'm like, they really just

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Speaker 1: made a movie about it. Man playing playing pink pall,

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Speaker 1: l Bundy playing paint pall.

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Speaker 6: Like for real? Like that. That's that's that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 6: That's it. And he only did it twice. Okay, we

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Speaker 6: just booking and playing.

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Speaker 1: Ten All right, Mike, what do you think about the movie?

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Speaker 1: It's rare.

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Speaker 3: It's rare that I agree with ken O really every

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Speaker 3: word him just said this. This movie was the most

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Speaker 3: overhyped fucking movie I've seen in a long ass time.

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Speaker 3: I was beyond board and it was egregiously long. There

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Speaker 3: was no reason for this ship to be two in

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Speaker 3: the fucking half hours of this fucking dumb ass trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out how he can go play tennis. Get

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Speaker 3: this ship the funk out of here. Now, he's that

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Speaker 3: table centers, that's what he called it.

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Speaker 1: He caught the table to your favorite movie. And you

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Speaker 1: know you didn't even catch that. Y'all spoke about it

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Speaker 1: all the time, right, y'all spoke about the run time

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Speaker 1: my sound went out in the theater. Oh this five

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Speaker 1: minutes that was in the theater. Oh so five minutes

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Speaker 1: seeing the sound goes out. It does that for maybe

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Speaker 1: five minutes. Then they restart the whole movie. They didn't

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Speaker 1: even just pick up with a sound like the whole movie. Wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: how far it was five to ten minutes in the

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Speaker 1: movie when he was talking to it wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad. It was when he was talking

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Speaker 1: to his uncle and he was telling his uncle, you know, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to play over here in this tournament and whatever.

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Speaker 1: His uncle was like, Bro, you're the manager here is

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Speaker 1: like just stay here. It went out through that whole

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Speaker 1: part and then they started it over Uh. But to

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Speaker 1: you guys's point, it was it was super right. I

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Speaker 1: agree with Nick. It reminded me a smashing machine, like

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Speaker 1: the person in here is doing a good job, acting

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Speaker 1: like Timothy Shalla made it an amazing job. I do

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Speaker 1: agree with that, But I'm looking at it, I'm like, Bro,

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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. I don't care, Like I

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Speaker 1: like what, I don't care. They never made me care

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Speaker 1: about none of this stuff. Bro, the dog, the baby,

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Speaker 1: the girl. I didn't care about any of that. The

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Speaker 1: only thing that held me was the job that Timothy Shalla.

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Speaker 3: Made was talking about you didn't care about Tyler, Tyler

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Speaker 1: That his whole thing cut out, Mike, his whole thing

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Speaker 1: could have been cut out. I wouldn't have been mad

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Speaker 1: at all if Tyler created like that old everything that

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Speaker 1: we got from that led to them, so I at

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Speaker 1: least thought they would come back in the But we

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Speaker 1: start out with Timothy's alime characters selling shoes in the

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Speaker 1: shoe store. We see that he's a good shoe salesman

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Speaker 1: kind of because I mean he wants to be manager

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Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. But his love interest comes in,

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Speaker 1: and that is Rachel. We understand that he's known Rachel

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Speaker 1: since he was eight years old. She said she lost

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Speaker 1: a pair of shoes. They go to the back, they

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Speaker 1: do what they do. Was this appealing at all to anybody?

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Speaker 2: Not the way you cut it up? Tell me what

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Speaker 2: was appealing about it? Then you tell me, tell me

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Speaker 2: what you cared about. Go ahead round.

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Speaker 1: No, I thought they.

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Speaker 5: I thought they established He established himself as a to me,

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Speaker 5: although he was a good shoe salesman, he still had

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Speaker 4: So now I like I like to start. It was fine.

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Speaker 5: The energy of it was fine because not just him.

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Speaker 5: I think the way the pacing of the movie, I

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Speaker 6: Hm, I wouldn't say it was. It was interesting. I

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Speaker 6: think we were so far like right in the beginning

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Speaker 6: of the movie. I think, you know, of course, that

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Speaker 6: whole storyline comes around later because they did the whole

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Speaker 6: it definitely played a part in it later on. So

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Speaker 6: it was a key moment in the movie. And then,

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Speaker 6: like Rod said, you can see his ambition, his hot

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Speaker 6: So so yeah, so I think, uh, it was, it was,

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Speaker 6: it was needed, but you know, it's so early in

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Speaker 6: the beginning on the move, it's just like, all right,

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Speaker 6: well this at the time was like really didn't know

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Speaker 3: I didn't This is a Krinsworthy scene early out out

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Speaker 3: the gate. To me, Timothy shouting made I don't ever

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Speaker 3: want to see another sex scene.

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Speaker 2: Like all the sex scenes he had.

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Speaker 3: I'm cool on him, bro, he he to me, he's

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Speaker 3: not an actor in that way.

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Speaker 2: So seeing that scene out the Gate.

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Speaker 3: Was just kind of like, all right, I don't give

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Speaker 3: a girl behind a shoe store, like that, tell me

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Speaker 3: that tell me all I need to know about your relationship.

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Speaker 3: You can't fun, you can't go to a hotel, you

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Speaker 3: can't like you fuck her at a shoe store.

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Speaker 4: But it did.

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Speaker 3: But I like, to get to Ken's point, it was

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Speaker 3: in this show, like around that scene, like he's a

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Speaker 3: smooth talker, He's a super confident kind of dude. You

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be based off of him. Believe it in themselves.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean this scene was just like, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's get let's go through the movie like this can't

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Speaker 3: be you know, one of the best parts of the movie.

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Speaker 1: Mike, what do you think?

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Speaker 3: I didn't give the fuck at all because the second

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Speaker 3: that's exactly what I thought. The second she came she

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Speaker 3: thought that, Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: But I was like, Okay, you're going on the back

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Speaker 1: This movie was getting a lot of comparisons to Uncut Gems,

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Speaker 1: like the camera work and how it was paced and

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Speaker 1: things like that. Did y'all like that, like when you

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Speaker 5: I didn't, I didn't get I did see that after

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Speaker 5: I guess that was kind of like Uncut Gems, but

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Speaker 4: It's erratic the word I want to.

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Speaker 2: Use, like it was just the I don't think the pacing.

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Speaker 1: It looked like it, but the pacing went as intense

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't as intense. Yeah yeah, yeah, it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't as intense, So I didn't. I didn't get

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Speaker 5: the parises at first, but I could kind of see.

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Speaker 1: It, but nah, it was more smashing again, it was

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Speaker 1: It's like it was a slightly more interesting This was

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Speaker 1: and I think that's why I like it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: I almost was there with Smashing Machine, but it just

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Speaker 5: wasn't quite enough story for me, well to to care.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was one of the brothers that did

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Speaker 3: that movie uncut Jim. So I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: that's the only real comparison like between those films. But

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Speaker 3: thinking moving forward, like, is this just how they just

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Speaker 2: Redundant after a while. But I do like the look

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 5: He does it well, he did h I don't know

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Speaker 5: if y'all saw a good time. I know Mike's seen it,

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Speaker 5: but he did good time as well. The Josh Safty,

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Speaker 5: I think it's his name, and I think he's really

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Speaker 1: So yeah, if you.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I just didn't.

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Speaker 4: I noticed it was fast paced, but not in an

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Speaker 3: I didn't get fast paced from this. I'm that's not

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Speaker 3: a little confused with what y'all were saying. I didn't

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Speaker 3: get fast paced at all. I got slow shot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the shots that they were doing, it was really quick.

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Speaker 4: It was really this thing and this thing, and it.

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Speaker 3: That that worked for Good Time because Good Time was

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Speaker 3: because it was supposed to be very chaotic and whatever.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work for this because it was just like,

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Speaker 3: Just playing ping pong and even though even when like

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Speaker 3: some shit would pop off, it's like this ship didn't

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Speaker 3: last long enough for me to care about the shots

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Speaker 3: being kind of erradic.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So we joined Marty as he's trying to

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Speaker 1: a conversation with his manager or co owner of his

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Speaker 1: to pitch the dad on buying the ping pong balls, Like,

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Speaker 1: do you guys buy into Marty's hustle?

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Speaker 2: Like is he convincing to you? Does he come off

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Speaker 3: Like all I got was this is CGI. That's all

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Speaker 3: Match into all my life, but I don't want to

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Speaker 1: And the whole time I don't.

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Speaker 3: I haven't really watched a lot of Timothy Charlamagne outside

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Speaker 3: But I was just like, man, if Shilah Buff hadn't

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Speaker 1: Career up, this could this could be him.

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Speaker 3: But at no point was I getting like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: Saves the dog, Like, at no point was I getting

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Speaker 2: It was just like, you wouldn't rooting for me at

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Speaker 3: No, No, I found him to be annoying, just like

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Speaker 2: So this was like a chore for you to get

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Speaker 8: You would, if you don't care about their think you

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Speaker 8: is because to me I was I was talking to

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Speaker 2: I was like, to me, this movie is like.

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Speaker 3: An extreme movie as far as fandom, where if you

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Speaker 2: Fan, you love this movie.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know much about Timothy Shaper could give

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Speaker 3: a fuck about him, This movie is like not even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say.

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Speaker 6: I also think it definitely probably put a lot of

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Speaker 6: I think to your point, for people that are fans,

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Speaker 3: Would say this is a movie, Like if people didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or the other one there movie I present them with,

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Speaker 3: Something you ain't got Cleve seen it.

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Speaker 1: He ship. But they're saying they're saying that both of

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Speaker 1: I heard his name before I seen him in Doomed,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't like, oh God, let me. But after I

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Speaker 2: That was that was my.

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Speaker 3: This is just not a good It's just a good film.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But they're talking about it like this is his Tom

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Speaker 2: And to me, it's just like that's a half truth.

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Speaker 6: I think for us it may not be the case,

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Speaker 1: Really he might be the guy moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I agree with Nick, like it's a half truth in

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Speaker 1: He did a really really good job in this movie.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away from that. But

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Speaker 3: He's on their list. Yes, they should have given him

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Speaker 2: I love his.

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Speaker 3: Well, I love his confidence in himself because he he

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Speaker 2: Again, it's it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was pretty interesting.

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Speaker 2: Never changed based off circumstance.

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Speaker 3: It was always the same, and I thought that was

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Speaker 5: confidence be so high. But but yeah, and I like

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00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 5: seeing people challenge that confidence too.

443
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he made it seem like, if you respect

444
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: the sport, you should respect me.

445
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: Because people respect the door that was the issue, but

446
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: the sport. The people that he was talking to, who

447
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 1: was supposed to being the directors of the tournament or whatever, like,

448
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: they took it very seriously, which is why I think

449
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: he was able to convince them. However, it took a

450
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 1: little bit away from me in the sense of He's

451
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: saying these things and all the pieces are lined up

452
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: in the correct place, and I'm gonna take table to

453
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: this the next level in America, and I'm sitting here thinking,

454
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that never happened. So that kind of

455
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: gives away the movie, like you never did the thing

456
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: that you said you was gonna do and be number

457
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: one and have people talking about table tennis because people

458
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: can still give two fucks about Ping Pong. So I

459
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: think it was good showing the confidence of the character,

460
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: but I also think it took away in the sense

461
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: of me as just a viewer of the movie, thinking, well,

462
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 1: I know how this is gonna end there cause like

463
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: this this stuff that you're saying, you being the number

464
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: one player and people starting to give a fuck about

465
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 1: you and all of this stuff like it never happened.

466
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 6: So you know, when I when I heard him say that,

467
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 6: the question is when that was?

468
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: When did all that happen? I got on my phone, kid,

469
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let me, let me google this,

470
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: and it never happened.

471
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 6: So I'm like, okay, because it's like it's such a

472
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 6: jump to him, like selling himself, and I don't know

473
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 6: if I needed to see it, but I'm like, okay,

474
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 6: when did all that happen? I said, Okay, I guess

475
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 6: we're just gonna go with it, you know, because I.

476
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: Had never heard of I'm grueci you, what's you didn't happen? Oh?

477
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: I just I couldn't.

478
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: I couldn't give a fuck less about the confidence of

479
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: a little white boy like.

480
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: I see that every day when I go to fucking Koger,

481
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: Like I don't.

482
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: That doesn't impress me, and that doesn't make me excited

483
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 3: to watch a film. Oh man, this little white boy

484
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: is so confident. Most little white boys are confident.

485
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: Too. What reason would he have to not be confident?

486
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: You know, Mike, That's why I feel like this this

487
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: movie got a lot of praise.

488
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 3: It's because like white boys love these type of movies

489
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 3: and these type of That's why people I feel like,

490
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 3: people like Tony start a lot because he could go

491
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: into a room.

492
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: He ain't got no powers, but he felt like.

493
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: He had a listen and talking ship to captain and

494
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: all the door and it's like this is.

495
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: When Marty was doing all movie long talking ship.

496
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: And he really wasn't about ship.

497
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 3: And he the most frail motherfucker in every room, that's

498
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: the thing. And they laughing black friend with sorry as hell.

499
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: He's a fucking taxi.

500
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: Driver, got hair, kids, got kids at the house.

501
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: And he can't.

502
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: Shop.

503
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: He disappeared for three days. Speaking of talking ship, he

504
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: meets the faded Starr k Stone and she walks through

505
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: the hotel lobby daylight eyes. How believable was it that

506
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: this phone conversation could have happened, bro, it was it

507
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: was the apple.

508
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: Walk me through this phone conversation. It's that easy to

509
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: get me. He in the nineteen fifties, I was taking

510
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: the same thing.

511
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 8: I swear to god. I was like, this all you

512
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 8: had to do in the bowl, boy, I saw some

513
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 8: the lose thing.

514
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 9: I I ain't got to put it in the bro.

515
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 4: He ship was up though, he told her like, look,

516
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 4: check the check. The paper paid such and such, and

517
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: she checked us. She's just like, oh, okay, this is

518
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 4: supposed to impress me.

519
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 5: And I did like this dynamic too, because I mean

520
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 5: she obviously it would have taken a lot to impress

521
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: her because she was obviously dating someone that was a

522
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 5: higher stature than he was.

523
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 4: Uh So, I don't know.

524
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: I liked it. Impressed though, That was the thing. I

525
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: don't think at any point in the movie she was

526
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: impressed by him. He was just a release first.

527
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 5: She was intrigue press impressed. No, but she was intrigued.

528
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 5: She was intrigue, which is why she showed up to

529
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 5: the game, to the match.

530
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: M hmmm mm hmm.

531
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: Has she any any smash too? So she wasn't trugued.

532
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like that would have been hard because

533
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: she didn't even like.

534
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: To do she was with Yeah, that's true.

535
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 6: We didn't know that at the time, but yeah we

536
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 6: found out. Did y'all know that was? That was gwyn

537
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 6: and Paltrow. What happened to her was.

538
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: Actually can.

539
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: I was like, who is this woman? Did she get older?

540
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: Yes?

541
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: Yes, can women age bro just like we did.

542
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 5: I think, like a lot of these women, it's not

543
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 5: she looked good because because a lot of these women.

544
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: Like her her time.

545
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 5: Are getting a lot of like like work done, and

546
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 5: I don't feel like she's getting as much work done

547
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 5: as these other actors.

548
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: That's what I thought happened, because my.

549
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: Thing with her was just like I just didn't believe

550
00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: that he could bag her. You know what I'm saying, Like, really, no,

551
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: I think she had low self esteem. Yeah it was.

552
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: It was she was dealing with to not being in

553
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: Hollywood anymore, you could tell, and it made her feel

554
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: better about herself messing with Marty. That's that's how I

555
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: wrote it off, because you're right, he couldn't have bagged her.

556
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: I don't believe but jo himself esteem that low.

557
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: You fucking table tennis niggas.

558
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: But you say right.

559
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 4: Y'all means don't remember Titanic.

560
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: If Pauldrow was.

561
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: No he talking about the bute age though, right, Like

562
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: she was young and she ain't no.

563
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: Grinnod Paltrow is older class. Yeah, she's used to a certain.

564
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was young.

565
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: He was like way younger than her. That's why she was,

566
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 3: you know, interested in that for a minute. He's this

567
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: young kid that wants to fuck. Of course, yeah, I

568
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: still about it.

569
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 10: Got a grow back, I'm sorry real quick.

570
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, your black swuffing me too. I think that she

571
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: was not impressed. Intrigued was the right word, like you said, Rod,

572
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: just by how young that he was and how confident

573
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 1: that he was in himself. She was looking to see

574
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: where he got that confidence from. That's why she went

575
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: to the match. In my opinion, none of that ship

576
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: seemed believable to me.

577
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, but but it's no different than than how

578
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 5: Stella got a grow back. It's the same concept of

579
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: older women wanting to feel desired by younger men.

580
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but but Stella went to Jamaica looking for something,

581
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like.

582
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: She and of course she just stumbled on some dick.

583
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: But like good aboucho who was like again already rich

584
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: or like had had class.

585
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: And she's just getting a random phone call from some

586
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: friend last nigga.

587
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Like Nick, she was looking for it too, because exactly,

588
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: women don't just travel around with lingerie in their bag

589
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: like that. She showed up with with a fucking outfit on.

590
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was with a husband ahead for him.

591
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: She ain't happen for him for him, No, No, that's

592
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: that's some new new all right.

593
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: So we get to the tournament. We see him play. Uh,

594
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: he plays the first round, kills the guy, second round,

595
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: beats his mentor. The third round though, he's playing against

596
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: the Japanese player who has a different paddle, and he

597
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: beats him. He whooped his ass. Actually, was this a

598
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: turning point in the movie for you? For you guys,

599
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: did y'all look at him like, oh, he he just

600
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: talking shit? He ain't even really as good as you

601
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: say he is. What did y'all think he was gonna

602
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: win this match?

603
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 4: Like?

604
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: What did you get from the first latch?

605
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: I knew he was gonna lose as soon as he

606
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: looked at that paddle. He ain't know what he was

607
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: looking at. I think I can't tell him was the

608
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: paddle of the man. He didn't know what he was

609
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: looking at it.

610
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: He was like this, this is gonna be an interesting

611
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: day for me. But yeah, him getting his ass what

612
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: was kind of like, oh, you're just good in America,

613
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: You're not good, and like it's kind of like baseball,

614
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: white boys is good until they in the grade, you know.

615
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 5: I mean, he I don't I knew he thought he

616
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 5: thought he was gonna lose before that, You remember, y'all,

617
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: remember like he was just like, yo, who are Why

618
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 5: did these motherfuckers? Ain't think I could even play in

619
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: this tournament? Like like, so when he saw that they

620
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 5: were gonna be in a tournament, he's like, oh, ship,

621
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't expecting that. So he started he started getting sweat.

622
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 5: He started sweating a little bit before this match even started.

623
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 5: So that's why they put so much emphasis on him.

624
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: Looking at that guy throughout the tournament, raising up the ranks.

625
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: Damn, they all look like rob.

626
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't China. He made it a b so many.

627
00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 11: Times I started to say Asian, I was so confident.

628
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 12: Right, the ping pong was made in China.

629
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 13: The worn he was playing, were you more interested?

630
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: When he lost some match.

631
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 14: Mike, No, I wasn't because you know, honestly, when I

632
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 14: was watching this, at no point did they really give

633
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 14: me the impression that he was the ship.

634
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 3: I just felt like, I feel like, if if you

635
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: can keep that little ball on the table, then you're

636
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: just you know, you're a you're.

637
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: A ping pong player.

638
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: That's like a basic thing for ping pong when you

639
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: keep that little ball on the table.

640
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: When he got his ass by the Asian dude.

641
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: I was expecting that from the second at age showed

642
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 3: up because he was holding the paddle all weird like this.

643
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: He was like holding it from the inside. He's gonnahoop

644
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: your ass, and he did.

645
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 6: That's when when I said, when he was talking all

646
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 6: that ship, I was like, when did that happen? That's

647
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 6: what I was referring to, is like, I don't know

648
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 6: if I felt like I needed to see him be

649
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 6: a badass.

650
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

651
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 6: So when he got up there, I'm just like, bro, yeah,

652
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 6: as you gotta say, you you really met your match.

653
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 6: And then I found out this one for you lost

654
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 6: to somebody that can't even hear.

655
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: On top of that, he was yeah, they said, he

656
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: just see the ball.

657
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: Don't play this motherfucker.

658
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: If all he can do is see, he's gonna see

659
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: better than you. You saw that like your other senses.

660
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: And he was he was the daredevil people. They were

661
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: talking to him later though, y'all he had.

662
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: The earthing and.

663
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: He had the ear PC. Yeah, so he could hear.

664
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: I thought that was a translator. I thought that was

665
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: a translator.

666
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: They didn't have translators like that. They said he was deaf.

667
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: They did, so he was death. This is why I was.

668
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: I do it to my I just got air ponds.

669
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: He had the iPhone headphones with the string on there,

670
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, I thought you.

671
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: Didn't hear.

672
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: The whole time.

673
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: They got that.

674
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: Agent crazy because they definitely said he couldn't hear, like

675
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: he said, but they were talking to him at the end.

676
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: That's why he didn't say nothing. He just he never really.

677
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 9: Talking.

678
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: He just walked through.

679
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: He was just looking the whole movie.

680
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: He ain't know he won until he got back home.

681
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: For me, how did I miss this? I did not

682
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: catch that he was deaf.

683
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 4: He was lord.

684
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: They stayed in the little Montague when he went back home.

685
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: But he was deaf. Damn. That's funny, all right. So

686
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: he loses to the agent guy. I feel like they

687
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: did a disservice of showing how much of a badass

688
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: that he was in ping pong, Like y'all said, when

689
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: they went the little ping pong bar hut whatever whatever

690
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: they was playing it, like, they should have shown him

691
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: being better there when they was playing at the little

692
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: ping pong spots.

693
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: Uh they did.

694
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he he lost, didn't, He didn't.

695
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 4: Didn't what they hustled, what they were hustling.

696
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Not at the I ain't got there yet, but I'm

697
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: talking about even before he left, when he was playing

698
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: ping pong with your man's Tyler, Tyler the cre at

699
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: the training facility. It didn't even look like he was

700
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: that cold then, Like Tyler was beating him. It seemed

701
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: like and he was somebody couldn't keep track of the ball.

702
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: So they did do him a disservice. So how much

703
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: of a bad as he was? And then he had

704
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: that loss.

705
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 6: Uh.

706
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: But after that loss, he comes back, he has the

707
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: lunch meeting with Kevin O'Leary and he offers him to

708
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: come play ping pong exhibition event, pay you a thousand bucks.

709
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: He's talking and he talking to him like.

710
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm Jordan's and you this, this is I would never

711
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: do this, but I'll give you my response of whatever

712
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: it may be. He was framing it like he would

713
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: be doing him a favor to do this. Was that

714
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: a big mistake in the sense of what he was

715
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: trying to do.

716
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 4: You're talking about Gwenna Pacho's husband.

717
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, which which to know, the same dude that was

718
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: in the when he came out walking on Towe when

719
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: she was talking on the phone.

720
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: Was yeah, that's him.

721
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, he didn't look like him in the

722
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: hotel room. But yeah, Gwyneth Paul Joe's husband, when she

723
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: had the conversation with him and they have lunch and

724
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: he wants to offer him to go to the ping

725
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: Pome exhibition thing and he turns it down. What do

726
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: you think about that? I thought he was wanting to fall.

727
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: He did.

728
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: He didn't want him to take the fall, even I

729
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: got while he said no, that made sense. Why would

730
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: he want he has an ego, why would he want

731
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: to go in there purposely take a fall.

732
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: Excuse me, He didn't want to take a fall, He

733
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: just didn't want to play him before the tournament. He

734
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: was willing to do it after but this was a

735
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: week before the tournament.

736
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: I thought I thought, I thought it was insinuated that

737
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: he would take the fall in the exhibition match, because

738
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: he was like, he's because he's he finally understood how

739
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: big the game can be since the Asian guy won,

740
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: and he was like, I could sell my product overseas

741
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: using this as a vehicle to showcase my product and

742
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: him being the face of that.

743
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: I can't have him lose to you, because then I

744
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: will say that.

745
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think when Timothy Challamage's character was cool

746
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: with that, he just didn't want it to be. Before

747
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: they played in the tournament, he was.

748
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: He was recruited a rematch, but he said making a

749
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: real game, like, don't make me take the fall for that.

750
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 3: And then that's when the dude was like, what other

751
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: options do you have?

752
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, Jess, so you could sell some pins. I

753
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 6: just wanted to lose his match. It was stupid, you know,

754
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 6: but I get it at this point, you know, even

755
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 6: though he had just lost to this guy, he still

756
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 6: thinks he's the top dog, and for all intents and purposes,

757
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 6: I guess in America he is, you know, so yeah,

758
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 6: why would he want to go lose a matchup just

759
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 6: to sell some pins.

760
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: Ain't doing that ship hmm yeah, especially if you're trying

761
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: to build yourself up. That is make any sense?

762
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: Well game for him?

763
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay about his ego.

764
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: Both, I think yeah.

765
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense that he wanted after the

766
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: tournament if he's going to take the loss, because he

767
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: wants people to know that I did beat him when

768
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: we were playing for real, so we can do this

769
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: exhibition thing after the tournament. And then that's where they

770
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: had to snag at. What did you guys think of?

771
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: So I didn't really talk about this in the beginning,

772
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: but he robbed the shoe store for his bunny to

773
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: get to the British Open. He robbed Lloyd I think

774
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: his name was, and pulled the gut on him. But

775
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: when he gets back, his uncle has a police there.

776
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: They go through this whole thing. This ain't to do

777
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: anything for you guys, I.

778
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: Want I personally wanted more scenes with him and his family,

779
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: specifically with fran Dresser and stuff like that.

780
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: So I thought that's.

781
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: Where we were going to get when we got to

782
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: like these scenes, because I thought what his uncle was

783
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: trying to do is me basically say like he basically

784
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: says like yeah, like bro, like you're really you're really

785
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: great at being a salesman and I want to pass

786
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: this Basically this store down to you know, only for yourself,

787
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: but you can take care of your moms because she

788
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: needs help too.

789
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: I can't keep paying the bills.

790
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: And he was just so focused on trying to be

791
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 3: great at something else that I like that conflict between

792
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: like your own desires versus you know, family obligations. But

793
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: it's just like we just kept on touching gold with

794
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: that a lot. And this scene was like, it was

795
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: an interesting scene because to see like the depths, his

796
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: uncle was willing to go like either you do this

797
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 3: or you go to jail, you know what I'm saying.

798
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: So I liked that scene about it, but we just

799
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: didn't get too much of it from In my opinion,

800
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: I agree with you. I think it spoke to this.

801
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: Nailed at Home for me is like how much he

802
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: believed in himself. We've seen it all through these other

803
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: movies and the conversations that he had with the different people,

804
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: but this really spoke to like this is like the

805
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: mixtape rapper when someone tell you they are rapper back

806
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: in the day, like they got mixtapes or whatever. They

807
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: really believe they gonna make it, and you looking at

808
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: it like ra everybody raps. They looking at him like, well,

809
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: you're playing fucking ping pong, dude, Like this can't be

810
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: a career. This is impossible. Like you have real skill sets,

811
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: real talents, real things that you can do. And to

812
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: your point, Nick, I'm gonna go to these lymphs to

813
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: show you that that right there, ain't it like you

814
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: gotta give ping pong up. But he believed in it

815
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: so strongly. This kind of nailed at home for me.

816
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 6: What you think, but it was it was I think,

817
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 6: n It makes a good point because when they showed

818
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 6: us that they finally believed in them, I'm like, when

819
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 6: did that happen? Because they have been dismissing him the

820
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 6: whole time, But did they That's what they said. That's

821
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 6: one of the one of his cousins somebody said. It

822
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, we really believe in you, Marty.

823
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: Like man, everybody believed in them.

824
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: Everybody believed in them. When what's that?

825
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: I missed it?

826
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: People?

827
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: People in my viewing, Marty was.

828
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: Looked at us like cam effect.

829
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, but he made him.

830
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 3: But everybody knew Marty had talents as far as like

831
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: more so interpersonal communication, like he know how to.

832
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: Talk his way into a room.

833
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: You know, clearly in the movie he knew how to

834
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: talk his way and again you know in women's draws

835
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: and shit like that. So he has a talent of

836
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 3: being able to be a people person and he seems

837
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: smart enough to like actually do the job well. But

838
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: it's just that he wanted to use those those talents

839
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 3: for something else or go into a different direction. That's

840
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: why I felt like it was it was easy for

841
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: people to buy into him. But I think to Ken

842
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: and Mike's point, but we never really saw a display

843
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: as far as the other side of why he was

844
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: so enthusiastic about his table tennis, Like we never really

845
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: seen him dominate for a long period of time to

846
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: justify his confidence.

847
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: And anything else.

848
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: If he was confident just being shoe salesman, it's understandable

849
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 3: because we could probably go off of that based off

850
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: of everybody else's belief. But that's the reason. That's the

851
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: thing that kind of just threw the story off a

852
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: little bit. I guess from I can understand what other

853
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: people like not really buying into it.

854
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: You just didn't see him dominate enough on the ping

855
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: pong tap. Most we see them lose most of the movies.

856
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Didn't lose.

857
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: It ain't really well.

858
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: He won that first match, he blew the dude, the

859
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: first dude out, and then and we can get into this.

860
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: He comes back, he has that conversation and now he

861
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: needs he well, I want to talk about this first,

862
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: so he has to go to a hotel. I was

863
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: gonna say, yes, get to the scene.

864
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about with his friend, his mentor that

865
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: you talked about.

866
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead, and.

867
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: Bro, I tried to block it out of my mind.

868
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: Know why, why why did we have.

869
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: To experience that?

870
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 15: They were remember, but you don't see what his story

871
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 15: about him being a fucking World War two capture and

872
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 15: they were he was doing bombs and a bee flew

873
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 15: on him and he.

874
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: Followed the beat to the hive.

875
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to all.

876
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: The honey off and put it on him.

877
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: To be they it off and get nourishment. Yeah, b

878
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: I meant to look it up and see if that

879
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: was real, but I am it's Auschwitz. I'm not putting

880
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 3: anything past what they did.

881
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: In that camp.

882
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 4: But that was some kind of joke.

883
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Didn't hit me. I don't know if it was a joke.

884
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: This is more like a fun fact about history. And

885
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: I was like, bro, why do we need to know this?

886
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: That was so they was getting it.

887
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: They just weren't. They were.

888
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: He was, he was happy. He stood there like Jesus.

889
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: Oh my child.

890
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: Me.

891
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: But that whole thing plays out and I forgot, well

892
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: where was I at?

893
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: He was?

894
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: But when his uncle was like, uh, got the policeman

895
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: over his place, and got the policeman over his place.

896
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: So they go through that, he jumps out. He goes

897
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: on the run. He learns that the girl that he

898
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 1: slept with in the first scene is pregnant. Did y'all

899
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: think this was Marty's baby? Like it was too obvious,

900
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: right they I thought.

901
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 6: They showed the sperm in the beginning of the movie.

902
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 6: They did, but we don't know that was his If

903
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 6: that was him, that was just I'm saying that could

904
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 6: have been Marty's birth.

905
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you know what.

906
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean, Like, we don't know who it's a sperm,

907
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: We don't know that that was him.

908
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had sets. It seemed like it was pretty

909
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: clear that. Yeah, why would they put it there? Right?

910
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I guess Roy, you.

911
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: Think that was his baby?

912
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 1: Yeah?

913
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure, I uh yeah, because the whole

914
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 4: time I was like, man, that's messed up because because

915
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: he was still with the.

916
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 5: Other guy her like her husband or I'm like, yeah

917
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 5: it was married.

918
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, But I thought that Marty was funny.

919
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: He's like, look, that ain't mine. It was on some

920
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: minutes of society looked Jimmy him extra tight.

921
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: He got it worse. He was like, you let him

922
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: busting YouTube. He had to kill her answer. He was like,

923
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: does he come in you? Jesus, that's my husband.

924
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: Piece of ship. Marty didn't give too about anybody on

925
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: the planet Earth other than him, he like, except that.

926
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: He's like, I got things to do.

927
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 5: I don't know what what you're gonna do about this situation,

928
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 5: but I'm destined for greatness.

929
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: I like.

930
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: At least he didn't lead her on though. At least

931
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: he was like he told her.

932
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: He was like, are you gonna like take the child

933
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: to an adoption agency and do this? And she was

934
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: like no. He was like no, oh, well bye. I

935
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: like I like.

936
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 16: It because I'm telling you the only way this is

937
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 16: gonna work and telling me you can't do that, so

938
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 16: there's nothing else you need to talk about.

939
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty funny.

940
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: Those are the funniest parts of the movie, bro where he.

941
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: Was kidd he was cutting her down. Everything was like, listen,

942
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this. I got purpose,

943
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: you don't.

944
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: What do you do every day? And she brought her

945
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: ass back too. She did. She loved us as Mark.

946
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: But he goes to check into that hotel and they

947
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: get prepared to go scam some people so he could

948
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: make some money to go to Tokyo and play in

949
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: the new tournament that's coming up. So he gets the

950
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: hotel room for four dollars a night. The dude explicitly

951
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: tells him do not take a bath. He takes a bath,

952
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: and the bath falls through the floor onto the dog

953
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: and the man, what'd you guys think about this? Same?

954
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: I was just like, don't let that dog be hurt.

955
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: I was saying the same thing, but he was like

956
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: he was hurt.

957
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: To us, like, oh man, it ain't fuck that dog up,

958
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: did it.

959
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 3: But that that tub landing on that dude's arm, I

960
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 3: was like, Wow, that's that's a lot.

961
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: That was well, that was an old ship moment for

962
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: this movie. I did. I did say old show shit

963
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: because I didn't expect that to happen. This movie did good,

964
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: and the you weren't really expecting to happen. They slow

965
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: the pace down and they speeded right back up. Wait

966
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: you think they did? You don't.

967
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: You didn't expect that to happen.

968
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: I ain't think the tube was going to fall through

969
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: the floor.

970
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: That's a man's percent what I thought, not laying on

971
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: the guy's.

972
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: But I absolutely knew that that was going to happen

973
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: the second he came in there. The guy made a

974
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: point to say, don't take a bath.

975
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: He said a shower on it. I thought this was

976
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: a loophole.

977
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: I thought.

978
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: I thought he said don't take a shower. That's why

979
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: he was taking a bath. Because if that's the.

980
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: Case, why even include that throwaway dialogue like he specifically said,

981
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: like don't use the bathtub or don't take a shower,

982
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 3: whatever it was. Marty immediately does it. I was like, Oh,

983
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: it's gonna fall through the floor. I didn't expect it

984
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: to land on that dude's arm with the dog in

985
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: the bathtub.

986
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, part that's the part that I didn't expect.

987
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: I knew it, like Mike.

988
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 5: Like Mike said, I knew it was in the fall

989
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: to the floor, but I just didn't expect for it

990
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: to be like that dramatic.

991
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: So that was supposed to be a chaotic scene. From

992
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: there we get the whole thing with Marty taking the dog.

993
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: He gets some money, learns that he has a fifteen

994
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: hundred dollar fine that's to pay so he can be

995
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: qualified for the event. So they go hustle at a

996
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: pool hall bowling alley. Was this intriguing at all? When

997
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: he hustles his dude the bowling that, oh hustles the bowling?

998
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: Now, it was okay. I mean it was kind of

999
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: to be expected.

1000
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 5: You knew exactly what they were doing, uh, and knew

1001
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 5: how it's gonna kind of play out.

1002
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: We've seen this before.

1003
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 5: But I guess, like them actually capturing them, then they

1004
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 5: catch them, and then they started messing, messing the vehicle and.

1005
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: All that type of stuff.

1006
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 10: I don't think I expected them to actually catch him.

1007
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 4: Like circle back around and catch him later. I't expect

1008
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: that to me.

1009
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: This is the part of the film where we're like,

1010
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: all right, we.

1011
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: Could chop out twenty thirty minutes of like like we

1012
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: didn't like again, like you mentioned Rod, like we know

1013
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: of a hustle, they could just have just done the

1014
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 3: setup and then showed them driving away with the money

1015
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: and then show the guys following them to try to

1016
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 3: get it back.

1017
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: Like this whole middle part because like again, we don't really.

1018
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 3: Since we know it's a hustle, we don't really even

1019
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: give much like respect to Marty uh winning or doing

1020
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: any of.

1021
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: That, like as a ping pong player.

1022
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 3: Like again, the movie doesn't really do a good job

1023
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: of showcasing like Marty's really talented until literally all the

1024
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 3: way at the end. And but we have a two

1025
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: and a half hour movie, so the ending is like

1026
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: the last twenty minutes if that. So that's why I'm like, bro,

1027
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: let's let's just get to the ships, Like why we

1028
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: wasting time? Why why am I seeing a lot of

1029
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 3: these scenes with a girl that he don't like with

1030
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: a hustle.

1031
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: That was.

1032
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: Or even or even we saw mond tips of him

1033
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: in the Harlem Globe Trotter ship.

1034
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 6: Like which I felt him on that ship. That ship, Bro,

1035
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 6: he did play ping pong with a seal.

1036
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: I think that part was needed to show that he

1037
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 3: had kind of turned himself into a joke.

1038
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: But he was lying.

1039
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: He was like lying to himself to make it seem like,

1040
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: oh no, I mean they're like the.

1041
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 6: Biggest eight thousand people, the greatest he said, the greatest

1042
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 6: athletes in the world.

1043
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 4: That's it.

1044
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he he was trying to lie and pretend

1045
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: that he wasn't now a fucking joke, which he was

1046
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: a joke. My thing is like we can get glimpses

1047
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: of that. We got like, yeah, it was the ten

1048
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 3: minutes of like of like, okay, we get the point now,

1049
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like, and he was so

1050
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: adamant not to do it.

1051
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: I think they tried to. They would overhaul and hamber

1052
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: it at home because he was telling them. When the

1053
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: Gay first presented the Globe, try to ship to him,

1054
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: he was like, man, are you fucking serious? I'm to

1055
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: be like Tiger Woods of the next big thing, Like

1056
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm not doing globe try to events, and then he

1057
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: has to do it. So mm hmm.

1058
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 6: You know, I think with with this thing, I think

1059
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 6: my first observation is that Dann, we're in the fifties

1060
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 6: and they only used the N word once, So I

1061
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 6: don't know why somebody else can't do that, but.

1062
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: I was from the same They wouldn't have gave two

1063
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: fus about that black dude getting home.

1064
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: They extra carry that part was weird.

1065
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: That part was weird.

1066
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: Man, just give him five dollars Like, I was like,

1067
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: wait a minute, what this is supposed to be the

1068
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: fifties and.

1069
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: Y'all are white, wouldn't and they don't call the New

1070
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: York like No, they only called him a nigga because

1071
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: he stole money from him. That that was this kid.

1072
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: I was like, you don't use it, do me and

1073
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: ship like I got.

1074
00:51:54,360 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: I can't heard that one. God, So they go through

1075
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: that whole thing. They hold on real quick. How do

1076
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: y'all think Tyler did.

1077
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 2: Did a good job.

1078
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: They did a good job.

1079
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: He was I mean, it wasn't much acting. Again, it

1080
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 2: felt like Kevin Garnett. Yeah, he was him. I would

1081
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: expect to be there on every day basis.

1082
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 4: I feel like he was more than Kevin though.

1083
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: You think so.

1084
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 4: I think you put I think you put on a

1085
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 4: better performance than Kevin Garnett. I've always thought Charlie should be.

1086
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: Sorry back again. Yeah, we're you about to rock. Oh damn.

1087
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: Mine.

1088
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: They pull over to get some gas after they hustle

1089
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: the people from the barber shop.

1090
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 2: This is a significant plot point in the sense of

1091
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 2: the dog.

1092
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: People. They feel like they got hustled. They left it

1093
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: said that dog that car like that at all. I

1094
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't need that better be fucking CVR. Bro because the

1095
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: way that dog fell man over and he was chasing

1096
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: after them to that was that was kind of said, Yeah,

1097
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: he was running. I thought he was running out of

1098
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: the car the car.

1099
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: I thought they.

1100
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: I thought he was running towards the car. As they

1101
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: were speaking out.

1102
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: The dog fell out. They went this way and the

1103
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: dog ran this way. Oh, I think because the way

1104
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 3: the dog was running were the guys that were chasing him.

1105
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: That's the same direction. So that's why that dog was gone.

1106
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: Dog was running, well, he knew what was up. Nigga

1107
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I'm a black ass dog to get

1108
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: out of here. What's gonna happen? Might take it out

1109
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: on me.

1110
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 6: But when all that ship blew up and exploded it, bro,

1111
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 6: I was like, oh shit, I'm with Mike. I thought

1112
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 6: the doll was chasing after the car or no, I

1113
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 6: was a spike I thought the doll was chasing after

1114
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 6: the car, and that I thought the dog blew up

1115
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 6: in the explosion, and then when I saw him running,

1116
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 6: I thought he was he got away. That's why they

1117
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: showed that scene. Yeah, it wasn't that, but it.

1118
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: Looked almost like there was a subliminal message there as

1119
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: far as Marty leaving a path of destruction wherever he goes.

1120
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: My mom just called me.

1121
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: My mom literally just called me, like, my mom literally

1122
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: just called me too much. Did y'all get that from that?

1123
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: When they seen all the destruction in the background, that

1124
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: was like an example of Marty and like how destructive

1125
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: he is to people.

1126
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: I didn't get that as subliminal, but yeah, me neither.

1127
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: That's a good point out though. Yeah, so till then

1128
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: he takes all the money my man have been missing

1129
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: for three days. He'd been to the home his wife

1130
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: and he don't get no money to the taxi driver

1131
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: with Tyler to create and he missed up his taxi.

1132
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: But crazy Marty gets everything that he needed and leaves

1133
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: him out of the dusk.

1134
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: Is he a shitty friend for that? Because man, when

1135
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: he was expecting Marty was like, oh, I thought you

1136
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: knew this was for me, Marty.

1137
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: It's kind of how he hit him up.

1138
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: Tyler should have whooped his ass.

1139
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 6: Bro Well, Tyler gave it to him because he was

1140
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 6: He was like, nah, half half of this is mine,

1141
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 6: but you know, he needed fifteen hundred dollars, and like

1142
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 6: a lot of other people, he that was his friend.

1143
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 6: So I guess he did believe in him, so he

1144
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 6: chose to give it to him. So I came not

1145
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 6: Marty for that.

1146
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't feel bad about it. I guess that

1147
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: that's why I'm knocking him.

1148
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 3: He didn't really seem like he felt bad about the

1149
00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: fact that Tyler's only means of you know, money was

1150
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: fucked up.

1151
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: He was just like, all right, well, I gotta go

1152
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: play ping pong nigger, so good luck.

1153
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 4: I don't know that harshly. I think he just again,

1154
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 4: I think he was just so confident in himself that

1155
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: he'll get it back.

1156
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: I think confidence where I see like typical white boy arrogance.

1157
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: I think the yeah, I get you, it's both. But

1158
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 3: I think the issue with him was his arrogance. His

1159
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 3: arrogance is what made him not give two fucks about

1160
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 3: Tyler and his you know, his taxi getting sucked up

1161
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 3: in the fact that he can't beat his family. He's like,

1162
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: I gotta get to Japan to do what to play

1163
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 3: fucking ping pong? Bro, This man is driving a taxi

1164
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: and he's got children and you don't give two fucks.

1165
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: Y'all could have went and pulled another hustle to make

1166
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: sure that Colin got his money. He bring that ship up,

1167
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, well, sorry, man, I gotta go.

1168
00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: Marty's a piece of ship man that Yeah, that's give

1169
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: Why did they give him a black friend?

1170
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1171
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: That that and you know inclusion, they gave him a

1172
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: d I friend. Brother. Jews and the black people are similar.

1173
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah back then probably being Jewish that hard. It

1174
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: was a couple of name drops in the movie and

1175
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: the kind of went away, and.

1176
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: He had that one story where he was saying like

1177
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: I'm I'm Hitler's nightmare or something like that.

1178
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: Reporters. Yeah, all right. So after that he's gathered the

1179
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: money up, his baby mama lies and says her husband

1180
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: hits him, comes with the black guy defended up. That

1181
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: was crazy.

1182
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: What did he hit him?

1183
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: Hit him with? Heed? Like? For nothing was right the

1184
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: whole time he was right. The bro.

1185
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: He got he got cheated on and got punched.

1186
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: His wife and baby on him.

1187
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: It's like it came home like everything.

1188
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: He got cheated on, his girl, got pregnant, left, lied

1189
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: about him hitting her, then came home like everything was cool.

1190
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: Like.

1191
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 6: What That's why they That's why they made for each other. Yep,

1192
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 6: he was sucking the house up and she knew he

1193
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 6: wasn't gonna do anything. That's why I feel like she

1194
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 6: went home like he wasn't gonna leave her.

1195
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: She knew that. Yeah, y'all.

1196
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1197
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: It was Marty manipulating the fat dude. Yes, he was

1198
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: getting over one.

1199
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: Like the dad said, Marty manipulated every single person in

1200
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 3: this movie.

1201
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: Yes, except for Mike to get to this scene when

1202
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: he gets he gets a spanking with the ping pong

1203
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: pedal to get his trip to What you think about that?

1204
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 4: I was. I didn't think it was really gonna happen.

1205
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 4: I thought he was just gonna say. I thought he

1206
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 4: was just messing with him, But.

1207
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 5: Nah, when it actually happened, I was just like WHOA,

1208
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 5: Like that's all I'm saying, Huh.

1209
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed for him second hand, embarraged. I was like, oh, marty. Damn.

1210
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 15: I thought it was.

1211
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: I thought it was just more of like, Bro, you

1212
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: care about ping pong this much? You lest some white

1213
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: man in front of his friends smack you in the

1214
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: ass like.

1215
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: Like anybody out here, anybody telling you to bend over

1216
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: and spread your cheeks.

1217
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: But it's unless you're a doctor and you're forty five

1218
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: getting the process exam.

1219
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 6: No you don't want to do it. Then you might say.

1220
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: The Lord called me today, He called me, Hey, I'm sorry, brom.

1221
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: Play with the seals again.

1222
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: I said, I ain't going to a rod and be

1223
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: like we going to China.

1224
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 6: Well, you know, because he had just fucked his wife again.

1225
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 6: They messed that up because they got caught in the

1226
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 6: damn park and he lost the jewel and he was straight.

1227
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 6: That's why he ended up there trying to get the

1228
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 6: damn money back.

1229
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: And she was That was a significant part. I did

1230
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: skip over.

1231
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: Ken.

1232
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: So the wife gives him the necklace she has one

1233
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: she gets won every twenty five. Well she has twenty

1234
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: five of them, she gets won every year for anniversary,

1235
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: very expensive diamond necklace. He has it right there, his

1236
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: grasses around his neck. Then he decides to eat her

1237
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: out in the park and the cops call what y'all

1238
01:00:59,320 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: think about that?

1239
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: I said this to jail.

1240
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: I was like I told you.

1241
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 7: I was like, we want them to stop. Now they're

1242
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 7: gonna come right back to it. I almost walked out, and.

1243
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: I thought that Nick I wasn't gonna say nothing, but

1244
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: I did.

1245
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 4: Is this necessary? Officers?

1246
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 13: Jesus?

1247
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 3: I was.

1248
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 4: I was like, bro.

1249
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: On show, Oh my god, my thing was?

1250
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 4: My thing?

1251
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 3: Was like because at first I thought, like when they

1252
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 3: were kissing under the bridge, like her husband or somebody

1253
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: was gonna come by and that you're gonna get caught

1254
01:01:59,280 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: like that.

1255
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: But the way he got caught, it was just like, bro,

1256
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: you didn't have like what made like you didn't have

1257
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: to do any of that. It was just unnecessary, like

1258
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: he overly wanted to just reward.

1259
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 3: Her forgiving him something that he was like, that's helping

1260
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: him out. It was like you could have gave her

1261
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: a kiss and left and you would have been good.

1262
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah what wait what do you? What do you?

1263
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: What do you so he shouldn't No, i'mderstanding, like why

1264
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: did you choose to do it immediately?

1265
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: Right then? Yeah?

1266
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: Right then?

1267
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 4: And there?

1268
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 3: Like why didn't you just because he never thinks about

1269
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 3: stuff like it just seems like he's very impulsive, you

1270
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and that that that part didn't

1271
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 3: really surprise me that much. It was it was definitely stupid,

1272
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Like it was it was so open,

1273
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: there's no trees. It's just like you're just doing it right, That's.

1274
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 6: What i mean.

1275
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 4: Like like even.

1276
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like it just felt like

1277
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: it was just so dumb, like it was the it

1278
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 3: was just the reason for him to showcase like he had.

1279
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 3: He had all these opportunities to to get.

1280
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: His moment, but he fucked it all up, Like he's

1281
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 2: just the fuck up.

1282
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just kind of the showcase how he lives

1283
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: his life in general. He just does whatever the fuck

1284
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: he wants and then pays for it or make somebody

1285
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: else end up paying for it.

1286
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, So from there he goes he gets spanked. Guy says, well,

1287
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: Timothy Sallomy says to Kevin O'Leary's characters like, well, how

1288
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: do I know if I do this that you're going

1289
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: to honor it? And he was like, you don't, You're powerless.

1290
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: And I think that was the definition of him throughout

1291
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: this movie, like you really have no power just to

1292
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: talk a good game? Do I get the same thing? Yep?

1293
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: This whole movie is white Man Look Blue.

1294
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: It really is, but one hundred percent so final scenes,

1295
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: he finally agrees to it. He gets over to Japan,

1296
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: he plays the he's in line, he has to go

1297
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: to the back of the line just to wait, to

1298
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: make it more of an event to more people get there.

1299
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: Finally gets there, finally plays them. Did was his final scene?

1300
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: Everything that happened was the payoff? Worth it? Him playing

1301
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: in this event? Of course, he didn't play in the

1302
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: Japan finals because he couldn't register, which is what I

1303
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: was thinking the whole time. I was like, how he

1304
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: going to just show up and be in at an

1305
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: event that they have been playing for a while. But whatever,

1306
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: he wasn't registered, so he learned he couldn't play, and

1307
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: we have this final epic battle between him and the champion.

1308
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: Throughout that whole scenes of things that happened, what'd you

1309
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: guys take out the most?

1310
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: Was it satisfying? Did it pay off? Absolutely?

1311
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: Not for me?

1312
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 6: You know, at they needed some slow motion, some special effects,

1313
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 6: some from challenges or something shit, you know, to sell

1314
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 6: it like I was just like, you know, and they

1315
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 6: skipped a lot of the point winning points, which is fine,

1316
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 6: But when he struck when he had the winning point

1317
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 6: and the way he just fell to the ground, I'm like,

1318
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 6: that's it. And that's when I was really the whole

1319
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 6: time the movie was dragged, but at that point, I

1320
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 6: was like, that's it. That's what people are loving about this.

1321
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 6: People really loved this movie, Like it didn't seem like

1322
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 6: he was really like, Oh, I finally did it. After

1323
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 6: all this this Turmola and everything I went went through,

1324
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 6: I finally getting spainked. I finally had my moment. I

1325
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 6: proved that he didn't even really prove that he's the

1326
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 6: best in the world. He just got his get back

1327
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 6: and he just fell to the ground and then that

1328
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 6: was it. And I'm like, that's it. So we spent

1329
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 6: all of this trunk of the movie for us to

1330
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 6: get here, and then this final match between them wasn't

1331
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 6: even exciting or an impactful.

1332
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 5: Hell no, that was for me because this dude was

1333
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 5: serious about his ping pong, like it really wasn't about

1334
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 5: anything else's ego, his pin like he seriously wanted to

1335
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 5: one of the fairest shots at this guy because you know,

1336
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 5: he was The thing that we didn't say earlier is

1337
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 5: that he felt like they were cheating because of the paddle.

1338
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: He felt like that, you know, he had an advantage

1339
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 4: because of that. But but yeah, to just kind of.

1340
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 5: Go against you know, the funders wishes of him losing.

1341
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 5: And you know, how did he tell him, dude, the dude,

1342
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 5: let's let's play out since he if he was dead.

1343
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: He went up to his ear. That's what I remember

1344
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 2: to play like.

1345
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: He was talking to somebody who may have translated, helped

1346
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 3: him translate for him, but it was like real, like

1347
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: he got up closer with that, nigga, I want to

1348
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 3: play you for real.

1349
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, like nobody language. It was just they was talking

1350
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: to him. I just didn't never understood that, like they

1351
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: just left the deaf thing right. Uh. But I do

1352
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: think it was unclimbacted, a very anti coimactic in the

1353
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: sense of how I keep compared to the smashing machine.

1354
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: At the end, he was just at the grocery store.

1355
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: It was like, bro, that's it, And it was just

1356
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 1: like that with this, It's like okay. So he went

1357
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: to an exhibition tournament and one like that that was

1358
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: the story. That's to Kim's point that that's what everybody

1359
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: is so high on. I thought there would be more

1360
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: of a climactic ending, more of a hero moment, or

1361
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: more of a winter moment or whatever it may be.

1362
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: But it's just it didn't. It didn't stand.

1363
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 5: It was a weird place for him to be to

1364
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 5: have one, right, because he was in their country and

1365
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 5: beating their their top player. So it's gonna be anti

1366
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 5: climatic in the sense of like, no one's going to

1367
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 5: really be sharing for you in this moment. But it

1368
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 5: was almost just like a self Uh, it was just

1369
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 5: like a it was just for himself, like you know

1370
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like it.

1371
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 3: Was a.

1372
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: Is. It reaffirmed what everyone had been saying this whole movie,

1373
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and the sense of this means everything

1374
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: to you, that too, but this means everything to you,

1375
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: it means nothing to anyone else, right, m right, And

1376
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: that that this kind of captivated that it's like, Okay,

1377
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: you went and this dude, like nobody's gonna be talking

1378
01:07:58,200 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: about this like this doesn't matter at all.

1379
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. It was a climax for him, but not

1380
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 4: for anyone else.

1381
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: Like it didn't.

1382
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 3: It didn't feel like that's what they were going. So

1383
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: it feels like they really thought.

1384
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: This was a rocky moment. The way they were filming it,

1385
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: the way they were going back and forth all of

1386
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: that ship.

1387
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 3: I think they thought that we gave a fuck about

1388
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: that because this ship was Yes, because this scene was

1389
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 3: so long.

1390
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: Really, if they were going.

1391
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 3: For what y'all are stuffing into this movie, I don't

1392
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 3: think the scene would have been this long, and they

1393
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been trying to do all these.

1394
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 9: Cool trick shots of them ah pop PLoP. They were

1395
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 9: going off like we were really like, oh ship, yo,

1396
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 9: this is crazy, But it wasn't.

1397
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: It was boring as fun.

1398
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: No, I knew he was gonna win.

1399
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 2: Did any did anybody think he was not gonna.

1400
01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: Wins in the foot by putting a tournament out there?

1401
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: Like I think us as viewers of it, we're looking

1402
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: at it like, okay, but this is still just an exhibition.

1403
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: He can't even play in the tournament, so we thought

1404
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 1: to Mike's point, I thought there would be more like

1405
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: you going to win? This means absolutely nothing to me.

1406
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 4: It reminded me of challenges and I know y'all didn't

1407
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 4: like that.

1408
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 5: I like challenges, and I know y'all, like I said,

1409
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 5: y'all didn't, But it was just like that the final

1410
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: scene of them going back and forth was not about us.

1411
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 5: It was about Zendaya or whatever. And heard watching them

1412
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 5: going back and forth, this is the same thing. This

1413
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 5: is more about him proving to me.

1414
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: I definitely got that.

1415
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 3: I definitely got, you know, I got that we're not

1416
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: supposed to like, we're not supposed to actually give a

1417
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: shit because it's really just about showing that he's.

1418
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: The one that cares.

1419
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: And that's it.

1420
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1421
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 3: This scene and the way they filmed it, it came

1422
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: across like they really thought we were watching something interesting

1423
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: m hm. Because it was, like I said, it was

1424
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: just so long of a scene and they were going

1425
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 3: back and forth and doing all of this drama.

1426
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: And it was like, yeah, but y'all still just playing

1427
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 2: ping pong man.

1428
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was intentional. I thought it was intentional. Like,

1429
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 5: I thought it was definitely intentional because it wasn't like

1430
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 5: a the cheering and the music at the end of

1431
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 5: it and all that. It was just him just being

1432
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 5: super super emotional about it. So it felt very like

1433
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 5: I said, you spent That's all I was saying earlier, Nick,

1434
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 5: you spent all this.

1435
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 4: Time with this guy just on this hide, thinking very

1436
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 4: highly of.

1437
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 5: Himself, and he's getting broken down, like all the way

1438
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 5: up until the end of the movie, like even in

1439
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 5: this moment, it's like no one cares, Like like no one,

1440
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 5: no one cares. You're talking about this thing throughout the

1441
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 5: whole movie that only you cared about it even.

1442
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: Supposed to get itself. He still got what he wants

1443
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: about it like that.

1444
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: I That's what I was, That's what I was going

1445
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: to got everything. He got everything he wanted. He wanted

1446
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 2: to be the big he wanted ping pong to be

1447
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: a thing.

1448
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: He wanted to be the man at that thing. He

1449
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: wanted to catch on. That was his his overall mission

1450
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: was to be like famous.

1451
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 4: That he didn't even get the balls took.

1452
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: I took it.

1453
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 3: I took it as he he only one of those

1454
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: things that justified to other people that it's important because

1455
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 3: because those are the things that they can look at

1456
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 3: and say, like, oh, if you're on the weed these box,

1457
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: if you're making a lot of money, then what you're

1458
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 3: doing is important because he kept. That's why I felt

1459
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 3: like he related the sport to himself so much as that,

1460
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 3: because you believe in me, you should believe in this sport.

1461
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: And then and then, at the.

1462
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: Same time, he only wanted to He was focused on

1463
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 3: beating dude because now dude was number one. Dude got

1464
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: all the ways and he and once he beat dude,

1465
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: he accomplished it what he wanted to do because remember

1466
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: he eould talked to the white dude shark do it.

1467
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: He was like, I don't give a funk about everything

1468
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 3: that we promised as for me to get to this moment.

1469
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 3: I just wanted to do anything I could to get

1470
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 3: to this moment.

1471
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: I think he settled for that, though. That wasn't what

1472
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: he was looking for.

1473
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: He was looking to beat a Michael Jordan and ping

1474
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: pong and make ping pong as popular as he thought

1475
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: it should be.

1476
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 2: But he's settled for it. Like we've seen him get

1477
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: broke down.

1478
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: Here's my whole.

1479
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I beat the best.

1480
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 3: But at no point was that breaking down mean anything.

1481
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 3: He was still this cocky, arrogant asshole. So it's it's

1482
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: not like we're really watching him get broken down because

1483
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 3: it's not like he was even realizing.

1484
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm getting broken down.

1485
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 3: So when I say that he got what he wanted

1486
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 3: at the end of the realm, when he went into

1487
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 3: that match, he wanted to beat that Asian dude, and

1488
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: he got what he wanted.

1489
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: He beat the Asian guy.

1490
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: He fell to the ground all dramatically.

1491
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: Then he gets up and they're holding his arm up

1492
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 3: and yeah, nobody's cheering.

1493
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: And all that.

1494
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 3: So I definitely get you with that, Rod, But I

1495
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 3: guess I don't really get the point here because he's

1496
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 3: still He's still one.

1497
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: He beat the Asian dude.

1498
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 3: Yes, Ping Pong didn't become the biggest thing in the world,

1499
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 3: but he became the best guy.

1500
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: He beat the best guy.

1501
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 3: So it's like, sorry, one more second, I promise I'll

1502
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: shut up. When the movie ends and we hit stop,

1503
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what message am I walking

1504
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: away from because it seems like they were trying to.

1505
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: Push one.

1506
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 5: They were they did they did this is this wasn't

1507
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 5: the moment. The moment was the actual like because he

1508
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 5: didn't have satisfaction.

1509
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 4: The baby, Yeah, the baby, it was the baby.

1510
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 5: The baby was that show like finally showed that he

1511
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 5: cared about something more than himself, which is why he

1512
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 5: broke down so much when he saw him.

1513
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 4: So it's like, go ahead, go ahead.

1514
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: But that's life was over.

1515
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying. That's what I was saying.

1516
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 3: To my's point, whered like when you were saying like, oh,

1517
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: he got broken down, Like I don't really see him

1518
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 3: get broken down, because he was cocky throughout the whole

1519
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: movie and then he just because he had nothing else left.

1520
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: He went back home. He took care of the kid

1521
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: because he had no other thing, nothing else to do.

1522
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 1: Right, because.

1523
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,480
Speaker 3: He couldn't get to the tournament, because he couldn't officially

1524
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: beat the guy, even though he beat the guy, because

1525
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 3: he was on the run from the law technically because

1526
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: of his uncle. It's just like, bro, all of my

1527
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: options are taken away. But as long as I can

1528
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 3: do this thing, that'll make it. That'll make everything right.

1529
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 3: Because if he didn't beat dude, he was gonna stay

1530
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 3: in Japan. He was stay in Japan until he got

1531
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 3: another opportunity to beat dude. He was not gonna come

1532
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: home until he beat dude.

1533
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: But see, I don't think we saw him getting broken

1534
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: down because we realized it as viewers but he didn't

1535
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 1: even realize it as a character even up until the end,

1536
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: Like he never realized that he like he was. He

1537
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: started settling for these things that he never thought he

1538
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: would have to settle for because he thought he was

1539
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,600
Speaker 1: so good and that good would bring him accolades. He

1540
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: never got the accolades from being good. Like he just

1541
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: starts settling for these things because he was good at

1542
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: this one thing, and he never realized that he was

1543
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: doing it, but they showed it through the movie then,

1544
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: from the Globetrotters to like just to everything that he

1545
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: did was a settle for that first initial dream that

1546
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: he had with his uncle, and he told his uncle, like,

1547
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a bet, like all the stars are

1548
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: lined up, I'm gonna be the biggest thing in the world.

1549
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: This thing is about to take off. And he settled

1550
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: for winning an exhibition match against the world's best, and

1551
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 1: then that was enough for him when he had such

1552
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: high hopes in the beginning. So, no, they never did

1553
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: it on screen intentionally, but I think as a viewer

1554
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: we were able to see it which way. I thought

1555
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: that conversation that he had with Gwyneth Paul Joe's character

1556
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: was really significant, and she was like, bro, like how

1557
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: you gonna eat tomorrow? How do you pay rent? Like

1558
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: these things didn't matter to regular everyday people. You're not

1559
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: even thinking about them because you're so consumed with ping pong.

1560
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 3: That's that's what That's what I was going with, Like,

1561
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 3: once again, this is a movie about ignoring being a

1562
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,799
Speaker 3: good man because you want to be great at something,

1563
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 3: you know, and like it's the same thing that kind

1564
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 3: of similarly talked about in The Bear I think in

1565
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: season three or something like that, when he confronted his mentor.

1566
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm doing all these things ignoring people, you know,

1567
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: ignore my responsibilities because I'm trying to focus on this

1568
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,560
Speaker 3: one thing. That's what he told old girl when he

1569
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 3: cuts chopped it down. He was like, I have one

1570
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 3: sole purpose, and that's to be the greatest ping pong whatever.

1571
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 3: And that means that regardless of this is my baby

1572
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 3: and not I'm not taking care of all true.

1573
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, and he thought I skipped over the whole

1574
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: dog part because I felt like that.

1575
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 2: Was just that was hilarious.

1576
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: That was part of one of the movie. Was said

1577
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: that shit didn't make no sense, Like Mike, it never

1578
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 1: was going to work. From the moment that he thought

1579
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: of it was never going to work. But they wasted

1580
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of the movie.

1581
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: On this where they went to that dude's house. Dude

1582
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: was looking through.

1583
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: The window like.

1584
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: That ship was he got blasted.

1585
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: Just being a white man. Look, I don't know how

1586
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: he didn't get shot. That guy was shot everybody. At

1587
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: the end, Yeah, it's it based on the true story.

1588
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: You know how that goes? All right?

1589
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: So at the end he's a Jewish, Honey, story was real.

1590
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: Oh you looked that up. That's what That's what I saw.

1591
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: Yes, any thoughts on the end baby and breaking down

1592
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: like like, honey, take you know this really showed that

1593
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: he I didn't get none of that either.

1594
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 3: I get there was no There was just no point

1595
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 3: that I ever got anything other than Marty Supreme is

1596
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: a piece of ship.

1597
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: Even at the end, him looking at that baby and crying.

1598
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: I was just like, bro, really, what what what?

1599
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 3: What am I supposed to take from this? Your asshole,

1600
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 3: You're you're a fucking ass and you knew that was

1601
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 3: your kid. You didn't give a fuck. But now at

1602
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: the end, I'm supposed to be like damn, he turned

1603
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 3: into a he turned into a good man because he

1604
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: cares about this little punk ass baby.

1605
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: No, no, fuck him and fuck that baby. I don't

1606
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: care about.

1607
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:21,480
Speaker 2: That is his baby, that ain't his baby.

1608
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:27,759
Speaker 1: The same way.

1609
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 6: That he was.

1610
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: He looked at him like, what the fuck is this.

1611
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 6: That I that.

1612
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: I way more than this mother.

1613
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 5: That I think the ending is what brought it home

1614
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 5: for me, Like you showed this guy throughout the whole movie,

1615
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 5: like quote unquote.

1616
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 4: Chasing the American Dream right like you, He's like relentless,

1617
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 4: like he's going hard at it and all of that.

1618
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 5: So I think you know people that do that, that

1619
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 5: get so consumed with their work and trying to achieve greatness,

1620
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 5: they start they start like losing focus on things that

1621
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 5: really matter in life, Like when it comes to relationships,

1622
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 5: it comes to just stuff that really matters, you know, family,

1623
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 5: all of that, Like you're so focused friends with with Tyler,

1624
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 5: like you just started.

1625
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 4: Just not paying attention to those things.

1626
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 5: And I think he had a realization even though I

1627
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 5: got this thing that I've been chasing for for so long,

1628
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 5: it didn't matter, you know what I'm saying. What matters

1629
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 5: is connections, real connections with people all of that. So

1630
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people can relate to that story.

1631
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 5: I mean, because everybody's always working so hard to chase something.

1632
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 5: So that's what I got from the last scene when

1633
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 5: you see him, you know, break down so much looking

1634
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 5: at the Baby's finally kind of Okay, this is what.

1635
01:19:59,120 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: Life is about.

1636
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: I get it.

1637
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 3: I guess I just don't get it from this. I

1638
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 3: got from it at the end when he's looking at

1639
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: that baby. What I got was, Okay, to japand you

1640
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: beat the guy that you wanted to beat.

1641
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: You came back.

1642
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 3: Now you don't have anything, so you're going back to

1643
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 3: the only thing you have left, which is.

1644
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: This woman who was cheating on her man with you.

1645
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: I never got that.

1646
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 3: He realized, oh this is what matters, or they didn't.

1647
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: They didn't bring that home for me at all. Him

1648
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 3: going in there and crying because he saw the baby.

1649
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: It was like, that's it. Yeah.

1650
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1651
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 3: They was trying to They tried to redeem his character

1652
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 3: at the end. That's what they try to do. And

1653
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 3: to me, it was like, we have two hours and

1654
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 3: twenty nine minutes of him being a piece of shit

1655
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 3: and just trying to do it.

1656
01:20:58,600 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because he got a he.

1657
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 3: Especially where there's no reason we would even believe that

1658
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 3: he's going to raise this baby. He could be crying

1659
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 3: because he's like, damn, I'm about to bounce, and I

1660
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 3: really feel bad about this, but I'm still about.

1661
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 4: To do it.

1662
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 3: Like we don't get anything from at least I didn't

1663
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 3: get anything from that scene.

1664
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 5: I just feel like that's why they put so much

1665
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 5: emphasis on him being an asshole. It's just being kind

1666
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 5: of like the the bad guy this this movie.

1667
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 4: Because Yeah, I just think a lot of people can

1668
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 4: relate to chasing after this.

1669
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: Thing and that, you know, a lot of things.

1670
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: If he was in the middle of that pingng match

1671
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 3: and he got a phone call cell phones. But if

1672
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 3: if somehow he got a phone call and they were like, yo,

1673
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 3: so and so was in the hospital. She's about to

1674
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 3: give birth, and he left the ping pong match and

1675
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,520
Speaker 3: flew home to be there for the girl and the baby.

1676
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, okay.

1677
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: So he realized what was important.

1678
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: Instead, he knew she was fucked up, knew she was

1679
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: about to have a baby. He still went to the

1680
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 3: band beat the dude, and then he flew back and

1681
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 3: was like, let.

1682
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: Me go see what she's up to. Oh, you saw

1683
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: in the hospital, cool like broke, Come on, thank you Mike, Mike.

1684
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: He dropped her off at the hospital and left right

1685
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: the whole.

1686
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: The whole movie. He ignoring the fact that she's pregnant.

1687
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: But do you note.

1688
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 3: All of a sudden he's just a serial killer, Mike

1689
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 3: cry because he has a baby.

1690
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 4: But even if that's the case.

1691
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 5: Two, I like that as well, right, because it could

1692
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 5: tell it leaves the viewer like like, obviously we're split.

1693
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 5: We split here because one viewer can look at it

1694
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 5: as sorrow, right when somebody can look at it it's like,

1695
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 5: damn man, like I am not able to to achieve

1696
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 5: these dreams.

1697
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 4: Now I got this baby.

1698
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: I gotta raise.

1699
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 4: You can look at it that way.

1700
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 5: I think it's just there on the mindset of the

1701
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 5: person and how they view life or whatever. Like it's

1702
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 5: like kind of glass half empty, glass half full. It's like, Okay,

1703
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 5: are you having a realization. Are you finally having a

1704
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 5: realization that you know, life is more than just achieving

1705
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 5: these dreams and it's about family and things like that,

1706
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 5: or are you just upon him?

1707
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 4: Now I got to raise the you know what I'm saying,

1708
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 4: And I'm sad about it. It could go either way.

1709
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 15: Huh.

1710
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Mike. He never showed us that he

1711
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: was gonna be there, Like, I don't know that tomorrow.

1712
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: He ain't off somewhere else trying to do Why would

1713
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: he want to go see the baby?

1714
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 4: Like, why would he want to go see it?

1715
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm here, I check him out.

1716
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 3: He did.

1717
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, just yeah, it might be.

1718
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: Friends for a long time.

1719
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, eight years old. I agree. I agree with

1720
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: Mike in the sense of like that they needed to

1721
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: be like this is a perfect instance where they then

1722
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: this happened, like if they had the words come up

1723
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: and Marty went on to become this and this that

1724
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: what I show him working in the shooting or as

1725
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: the manager. I needed something to reaffirm that him crying

1726
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: for that baby meant he was turning the new league,

1727
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: because again, all we know is he left there to

1728
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: somebody else play ping pong and trying to make it

1729
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: to the tournament in India next year. Let's all we know. Yeah,

1730
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

1731
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 4: I think it's cool that you don't need like.

1732
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,480
Speaker 1: I like that they left it ambiguous.

1733
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 3: But the fact that left an ambiguous makes me look

1734
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 3: at this like Okay, I don't really know what I'm

1735
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 3: supposed to take from this. He's still a piece of ship.

1736
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 3: But right, that isn't the person? So you so you

1737
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 3: so Spike, Yes.

1738
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: So Spike.

1739
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 4: You really think he'll be self destructive like that all

1740
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: over again, get embarrassed in different.

1741
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 2: As a person. I think that's to his core.

1742
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: And I think this movie showed us that, Like, if

1743
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: you're willing to get paddled by a grown man in

1744
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: front of his friends to go play an exhibition ping

1745
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 1: pong match in hopes that you can play the real

1746
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: ping pong matches you want to play, that's that's that's

1747
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: your life.

1748
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you ain't. You ain't redeeming from that. He

1749
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,440
Speaker 2: gonna be that form.

1750
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 4: Again, that's the case.

1751
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 5: I still like it because it shows that people won't

1752
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 5: learn from their mistakes, or can show people that we

1753
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 5: will learn mistakes.

1754
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: That's true. That's a good point.

1755
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 3: Any last thoughts, this is this is a blockbuster hit though,

1756
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 3: like this is I think people he may he may

1757
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 3: get his oscar.

1758
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in a bit.

1759
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: That's I think that's the I think this.

1760
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: Ah, But I'm just saying like this is a huge

1761
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 3: I think this is twenty four's biggest movie, like like

1762
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 3: box office, I think so, I think it beat what

1763
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 3: was the last one?

1764
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: Everything everywhere, all that once.

1765
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 1: I think it beat that.

1766
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 3: No I signed out, I saw anything with a cute

1767
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 3: white boy, and it's a subject.

1768
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: It's gonna every time.

1769
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: You're right?

1770
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, right, would you say he's an A lister now?

1771
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: I think if he's not, he's right there. If he's not,

1772
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: he's right the top name. He probably the top name

1773
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: in Hollywood.

1774
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 4: He's getting top dollar.

1775
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: He has to be at this point, like he's above

1776
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: Michael B.

1777
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:46,680
Speaker 5: Jordan's He's I think they're probably here depending like like

1778
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 5: because yeah, yeah, I think they're about the same.

1779
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Above Michael Jordan.

1780
01:26:52,680 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 2: Would you Michael Jordan's in this role? No, no fucking way, no,

1781
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: honkey ball. That's That's what I'm saying. Ut, Like, as

1782
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: much as I would to agree with you, I don't know.

1783
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 4: You can't play too though that Michael B.

1784
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 3: Can.

1785
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, timpthy can be.

1786
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Crazy very close. So yeah, I mean.

1787
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 3: Here one hundred and five million globally is and everything

1788
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 3: everyone was one hundred and forty million globally.

1789
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: It's going to pass. It's going to pass it.

1790
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 1: So it's going to pass it.

1791
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 4: So I said, yeah, right, right right, because it is

1792
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 4: because right now everything.

1793
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey Nick, you missed that boy?

1794
01:27:58,960 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 7: What is.

1795
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: Ill?

1796
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: Wait till late.

1797
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: I'll wait till late. All right. This has been our

1798
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 1: This has been our review of the movie What's your Name?

1799
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 1: This again, Martin? You like it?

1800
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five, This movie old.

1801
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 4: This my last year.

1802
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 2: Second review of Marty Supreme.

1803
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: We are out peace seez oh shoot