1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: All right, Casey, there's something going on at the State House, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: of course, and they're they're treating one of the friends 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: of the show very poorly. And I think our audience 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: is going to have to step up for this person 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: because this seems very wrong. Do you think it's because 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: of their association, Well, I think, well, that may be 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: part of it, but I also think it's because of 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: this person speaks, that speaks their mind on stuff and 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: puts date out that makes the government look bad. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Ah. 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: Yes, and so we don't like that. We need our 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: audience to step up here. And you're the voice of reason. 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm totally emotional about everything. Sure, you know, 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm I'll leave it to you. 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: But first we got to talk about the cost of 16 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner. 17 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so later this month, obviously, Thanksgiving is coming, and 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: food at home prices rose two point seven percent year 19 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: over year. That's according to the Consumer Price Index. Potatoes 20 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: saw the biggest increase at three point seven percent, followed 21 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: by turkey and then chicken. 22 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: There were some price drops. Wait, wait, wait to it. Yeah, 23 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: who's even chicken for Thanksgiving? Well, we'll get to that. 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent of people are choosing chicken over turkey 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: this Thanksgiving because the price of chicken increased less than 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: the price of turkey. 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: Oh, it's an economics thing, correct, It's not like we 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: value having chicken for Thanksgiving. They're just simply saying, hey, 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: it's cheaper. Thanks to Trump and the Republicans doing nothing 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: to get the cost of food down, we can only 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: afford the chicken, right. 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: Forty seven percent of people say they're swapping turkey for 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: cheaper alternatives, number one being chicken. People are also opting 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: for burgers, pizza, or fast food, and cheaper cuts of 35 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: meat non traditional proteins. Ten percent say they're going to 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: skip a main protein entirely. 37 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: What's the what's the overall cost increased? 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Does it say three point seven percent year over year? Okay, actually, 39 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, two point seven percent year over year? 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Potatoes were three point seven Okay, very good? All right, 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: So it's pretty rotten. We have to have this converse, right, 42 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: because it's a totally first world problem. But we shouldn't 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: have this problem in this country, Like we shouldn't have 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: this deal about can you afford Thanksgiving dinner? Like I'm 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: sure during the depression or whatever, that that was obviously 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: a front and center conversation. But in your life time, 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: have you remembered saying, we'll people be able to afford 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner this year? 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: No, a full Thanksgiving meal for ten people. This is 50 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: according to empower analysis. They say it costs seventy three 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: dollars and nine cents. 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: However, for ten people, for ten people, so that's seven 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: dollars in what was the number, seventy three dollars and 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: nine cents, So that's seven dollars and thirty cents a person. Yeah, okay, 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: very good. 56 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the average person expects to spend more than that. 57 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: They expect to spend one hundred and thirty seven dollars. 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: How much one hundred and thirty seven dollars for a 59 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: meal for ten Well, gen Z is going to spend 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: the most, one hundred and seventy six dollar dollars, Millennials 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: then coming in at one hundred and sixty nine, gen 62 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: X one hundred and thirty five, and then Boomer's ninety dollars. 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: That's because the older the people get, the more they 64 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: know how to make things work. So wholesale turkey prices 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: are up forty percent from last year. 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: They yeah, they average one hundred and thirty or one 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: dollar and thirty two cents a pound. There are some 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: things that have dropped in price. Those include spices, ready 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: made pies, rolls, and apples. 70 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: They all dropped in price. 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: However, Walmart has announced a Thanksgiving basket for under forty 72 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: dollars and this includes a butterball turkey plus twenty items, 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: they say, and even Donald Trump was excited about that announcement. 74 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: Walmart just announced that the cost of their standard Thanksgiving 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: meal this is the greatest, their greatest, They're wonderful. They 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: come out every year with how much does the thanks 77 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 3: Giving meal costs compared to last year? 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: Right? 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: And it always goes up up up. It's firty percent more. 80 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: Is twenty five percent lower than one year ago. Isn't 81 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: that great? 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: Well that's a big deal. Rema, Okay, you just said 83 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: it was more expensive. 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: Well, right, There's some context that's missing in this. It's 85 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: being said that the twenty twenty five Walmart Thanksgiving meal 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: will contain fifteen items, while the twenty four meal twenty 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: twenty four meal had twenty one items and shrinkflation right, 88 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: and some of the brand names that were in the 89 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: twenty four meal are being replaced with the great value items. 90 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so right, so he's lying again. What is it 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: with these politicians? They just can't tell the truth. Why 92 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: can't he just come out and go, here's the reality 93 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: of what's going on the ground, the statistics you just 94 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: laid out, here's the reality with what's going on with Walmart. 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. We got to take the lead on this. 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: Here's the abs and c that we need to do 97 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: to get the cost of food under control in this country. 98 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 1: Here's what I'm proposing to do that. Let's pass it. Boom, 99 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: let's go. Why can't he do that? Why does he 100 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: have to do this? Just bs about? Eh, it's Ted. 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: If only tad it had the Walmart Thanksgiving dinner, Ted 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: might still be alive. 103 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Dad got a new bathroom by the way, did you 104 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: see that? 105 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: Yeah? 106 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: You notice the renovation? And when do you think the 107 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: last time Donald Trump ever ate a Walmart Thanksgiving there? 108 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: It's great, it's the best. Every year at mar Lago 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: we bring a Walmart truck in any Thanksgiving dinner. 110 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: So besides replacing some items with chicken versus turkey, twenty 111 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: three percent of people plan to cook fewer desserts, twenty 112 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: two percent of. 113 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Reducing one pie for you this year. 114 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: Yea, twenty two percent are reducing portion sizes, and sixteen 115 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: percent are switching to store brands versus the brand name item. 116 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Now, do you usually eat enough to pass out? 117 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 118 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: We we we do a lot of We do a lot. 119 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: It's like there's three of us and you you'd think 120 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: that there were. And your daughter is very thin. 121 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's she's a petit, petite thing. 122 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: Okay, now we all have our favorite. Now are you 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna are you making her come back to you for Thanksgiving? No, 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: we're going to go there. Really, Yeah, you're letting your 125 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: twenty four year old daughter boss you around. 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: Well, actually, if I just get on the road, I'm 127 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: making someone else do the Thanksgiving. 128 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Oh, they're gonna she's gonna cook. No, I'm gonna go 129 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: to my brother. Oh oh very good. Okay, No, no, no, 130 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: that's that's fine. That's I think we're goy. 131 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: My brother doesn't know this yet. It's something we hope 132 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: to discuss this week. 133 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: Well, news, wife's case, you're about two weeks, three weeks. 134 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: Away, you might want have pulled the Yeah, I know 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: he may have other plans completely. 136 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: They may not know they're having guests. Okay, all right, 137 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: we got a audience participation your casey. This feels very 138 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: wrong what's happening, And I think our audience might be 139 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: willing to step up and help out a friend of 140 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: the friend of the show. So our old pal Indie Reporter, 141 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: and we love Indie Reporter. He's provides great He and 142 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: his merry band of misfit It's Steven Whitmer and the 143 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: group at Indie Reporter provide great information on Indiana politics 144 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: and government to the masses at Indie Underscore Reporter Underscore, 145 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: and they just I don't know what they do for jobs. 146 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't know much about them. They just are It's 147 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: like they're like elves. They just pour through government documents 148 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: all day, every day and they post them up. And 149 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff we've gotten on this show recently, 150 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, stuff that they find, they do it at 151 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: no charge. They posted to the public. They're not trying 152 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: to make any money. They just have an interest in 153 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the government. And then a lot of people follow them 154 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: and everybody should so Steven because he has done such 155 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: a good job, and the Indie Reporter team has done 156 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: such a good job going through documents, et cetera. He 157 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: applied for a press pass for the State House this 158 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: year with the upcoming special session. I guess it's not 159 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: technically a special session, but the redistricting stuff. And then 160 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: you got the regular session going to start, and he said, 161 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: I would like to be there so I may better 162 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: provide information to the masses. Now we can agree on 163 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: this that these people at Indie Reporter, they do a 164 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of coverage of government right They don't have a website. 165 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: They just do it on Twitter, which is becoming a 166 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: more and more common thing these days of people using 167 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: their social media to provide information to the public at large. 168 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: So he applied for this meter credential. Now, the state House, 169 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: the way the State House works is anybody can walk 170 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: into the state House. It doesn't mean that if you 171 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: don't get a media credential, you can't walk into the 172 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: state House, but you are afforded certain privileges, etc. When 173 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: you have a credential to be media in the state House. 174 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Like when we had our public gathering for the property 175 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: tax rally, anybody could come to that, anybody could watch that. 176 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: They weren't stopping people from coming in but there's ways 177 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: you go in things. You can set up all sorts 178 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: of things. And I thought to Okay, this is going 179 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: to be a complete noe brainer. It'll be great for 180 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: the public at large that they'll be able to be there, 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: they'll be able to send people there. And they didn't 182 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: died them a media credential. Okay, did they miss something 183 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: on the form? 184 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: Well, here's the here's you go through the IDOA, which 185 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: is the Indiana Department of Administration. That's right, yes, And 186 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: all media requests for information or interviews must be requested 187 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: through the Director of Communication. 188 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: That's right through the IDOA. 189 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: Media badge requests. You request a badge, plus there's a 190 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: ten dollars fee for it. By the way, Sure did 191 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: their their check bounce or did they not fill out 192 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: the request form properly? 193 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: Well, well, I'll read you the email. And I want 194 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:39,119 Speaker 1: to preface this by saying that the State of Indiana allegedly, 195 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean he posted pictures of it at one point 196 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: and claimed he had it, gave a press passed too. 197 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: Convicted felon Gabe Whitley. Okay, Gab Whitley was at our 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: property tax rally. Remember that. Give us up on the 199 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: fifth floor in the perch everybody who's giving a very 200 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: close eye on him. But at that point I believe 201 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: Gab Whitley, while I'm not sure, yes, had he been sentenced, 202 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, I don't know if he had 203 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: been sentenced yet, But now I believe he had pled 204 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: guilty by that by that point, and I think he 205 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: had was facing the charges the state charges against a duel, 206 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: which is he's still currently facing, which is why I 207 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: believe he still finds himself in the Marion County jail. 208 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: So late they let that guy, according to him and 209 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: that website that he put up, have a press pass. 210 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: But they are telling Steven and the Indie Reporter group, 211 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: who every day provides pertinent, relevant, studied, broken down information 212 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: on government and government documents, that they're not allowed to 213 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: have a press press. Gabe Whitley was deemed worthy to 214 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: be in the state House, but not any reporter. All right, 215 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: So here I'm going to read you the letter that 216 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: this is Molly K. Temperman, and what is her job here? 217 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: They're all the same name, right, Communications slash Legislative Director 218 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Indiana Department of Administration. So she sounds like a big Wig. 219 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: All right, good morning, Steven, and Steven said I could 220 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: share this. By the way, historically, media credentials and access 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: requests have been approved based on a vetting process confirming 222 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: the requestee is media personnel employed by a recognized media outlet. Well, Molly, 223 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: what recognized media outlet was Gabe Whitley a part of? 224 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Tell me, Molly, what respected, recognized, legitimate media outlet was 225 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Gabe Whitley a part of? And don't tell me whatever 226 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: that website that he had. Yeah, I know the name 227 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: of it, I just don't want to say it. For clarification, 228 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: the Indiana Department of Administration defines media as any newspaper 229 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,119 Speaker 1: or periodical of a general circulation, book, publishers, newswire services, 230 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: or radio or television stations, including individuals who own, publish, 231 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: or are employed by such entities. Again, which of those 232 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: boxes did Gabe Whitley? I guess if you're going to 233 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: say he started a website where he oftentimes said completely 234 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: ridiculous things, publication, I don't know, But tell me which 235 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: one of those he checked. These outlets in the ordinary 236 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: course of business published news articles, editorials, commentary, or paid advertisements. 237 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: The request form provided does not specify a media outlet 238 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: as defined above. After careful review, both Brian Renner, IDA 239 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Deputy Commissioner over Operations and I have denied this request. So, 240 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: according to the State of Indiana, convicted felon who I 241 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: believe he had the press release to come out that 242 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: he'd pled guilty by the Tiber property tax rallied, etc. 243 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: Gabe Whitley was allowed to have one of these. But 244 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: Steven and the Indie Reporter group, who haven't harmed anyone, 245 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: they're not on the run from the law of any sort, 246 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: they're not endangering their fellow man. They don't get anything. 247 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: And you know why they're not giving it to him 248 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: because they don't like what they put out. They don't 249 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: like that they get of the dirt and the information. 250 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Plow through these documents to give you information so you 251 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: can know how corrupt and rotten your government actually is. 252 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 2: Did they just say outright no to him or did 253 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: somebody contact him and vet him? Well, this is an 254 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: email because this is once submitted and authorized representative from 255 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: the IDOA will review your request and forward it to 256 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: the Access Control Office. 257 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: Well, I've read you the email that was sent to him. 258 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: So here's what we. 259 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: Need to say they're not considering an independent journalist media 260 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: credential worthy. 261 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: Well, certainly not one that gives you the information. And 262 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: it's not about whether you like the guy's politics or 263 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: the people, or their politics or their views or whatever. 264 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: The fact is on a daily basis, any person with 265 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: an IQ above seven can look at that account and 266 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: realize the majority of their time is spent posting government 267 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: documents and government information and providing they do more than 268 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: most media outlets in this city do in terms of 269 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: uncovering information. Now, you don't have to like them, you 270 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: don't have to agree with them, you don't have to celebrate. 271 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: Then you don't have to invite him over to your 272 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: enhanced priced Thanksgiving dinner. But the idea that they're not 273 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: doing valuable work that other media is using, by the way, 274 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: and not just us. They get mentioned on other people 275 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: on this radio station, et cetera. But you'll let Gabe 276 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Whitley in. So here's what we need to do. I 277 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: need a favor from the WIBC audience because many of 278 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: you know and like Steven and he's been a contributor 279 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: to this show in the past, and we mentioned him 280 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: quite a bit. We need to contact Molly K. Temperaman 281 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: and demand that the Indie reporter be given a media 282 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: credential to cover the upcoming legislative session. That sounds really 283 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: wants what access to the Senate floors? That is, well, 284 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. He just wants whatever the media is 285 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: allowed to have. He says, I would like to be 286 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, a part of what I guess by the 287 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: Gay Whitley standard, he just needs to buy a domain 288 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: name and throw it on a domain. He's what I 289 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: was going to say. Maybe he just needs a website, right, 290 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean, is that the standard, Molly K. Temperaman, that's 291 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: the question. What is the standard? If he just starts 292 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: a ridict website with all sorts of untruths on it, 293 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: then you'll just give it to him. I mean, is 294 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: that what we're saying? And just what a what is 295 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: a go Daddy account? 296 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: Now? 297 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: Ten bucks? I don't know. 298 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, by that standard, you could say that anybody with 299 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 2: a Twitter account then could be considered media. 300 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: That's I think that that's what okay, But they've already 301 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: sent the presidents of letting a convicted felon who ended 302 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: up going to federal prison. You and I were bought there, right, 303 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: we remember this event in which he was He was 304 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: in September is when that happened. Yeah, No, he was 305 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: in prison in the spring. He got him maybe got 306 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: out then he was you sure, yes, okay, yes, we'll 307 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: have to go back and look at the dates. The 308 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: point is he went to the federal pokey. He's currently 309 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: in the Marion County pokey last check, last I knew, 310 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: and he may be about to go to a state 311 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: pokey depending on how that criminal that his media batch 312 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: was provoked. Well, the point is they knew or should 313 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: have known, most of this stuff when they gave it 314 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: to him. So here is the contact info. If you 315 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: can just take two minutes for old pal Steven and 316 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: you can contact this woman. Now again she's a public employee. 317 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: This is the public phone number. I'm not giving her 318 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: personal information. We own this phone line as taxpayer, so 319 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: I don't have any problem given out this this information. 320 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Do you do you think I'm doing anything egregious or wrong? No, 321 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: as long as it's the work number. Yeah, and you 322 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: tell you tell Molly K. Temperman that you demand Steven 323 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Whitmer and Indie reporter be given a press badge and 324 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: so the phone number if you'd like to call, you 325 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: can call her at three one seven five two two 326 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: nine six three one. So that's three one seven five 327 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: two two nine six three one. I'll give that out 328 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: one more time than the email. If you're an email 329 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: person like me, three one seven five two two nine 330 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: six three one, you can also email. Let's see what 331 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: did email this come from? It came from media relations 332 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: at IDA dot I in dot gov. That's media relations, 333 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: media relations at IDA dot I in dot gov. And 334 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: I'll send an email here during the break, and you 335 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: should ask why did convicted felon Gabe Whitley get a 336 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: media credential and Stephen Whitmer and the Indie Reporter account 337 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: are being denied. We demand, we demand that the Indie 338 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: Reporter crew so that we may have all the dirt 339 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: in the tea on what's going on in the General 340 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: Assembly and information. 341 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three wibc ame. 342 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: Mister Timmarinemond the song for me. 343 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: I'm not sleepy and there's no place I'm going to. 344 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: We can just let it roll if you want. 345 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: A misterman bless Matt and I had a huge conversation 346 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: yesterday about the Bob Dylan movie versus the Bruce Bringstea movie. 347 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, let's reset everything for everybody. This is Kennelly, 348 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: Casey Show, I'm Rob, that's Casey. Matt is our boss, 349 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Matt hibblin. Well, he says he's not our boss, right, 350 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: is he actually our boss? He is? He's a level. 351 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: He's always like he doesn't want to work with us, 352 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: so he's he's like, I'm not your boss. I can't 353 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: hire you a fire, I'm not your boss. But he 354 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: can tell us what to do. But he says he can't. 355 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: He need to soft suggestions. He changes his mind based 356 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: on whatever the event is, whether he wants to deal 357 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: with it or not, whether he wants to deal with 358 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: us or not. 359 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: But we were he was reading some article and he 360 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: was like, I'm just trying to figure out why the 361 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: Bruce Springsteen movie didn't do as well, and you know, 362 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: and the Bob Dylan and why people would want to 363 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: see that versus that, and and I and I asked him, 364 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: if you were to make a movie and you had 365 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: to pick a musical artist, who would you pick? 366 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Right, Because the Bruce Springstey movie. 367 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: Was about a specific time, yes, in his life, Bob 368 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: Dylan's it was a little bit longer. And then he 369 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: was talking about the Elvis movie like there were no 370 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: surprises there. 371 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: You knew what was going to happen. And I asked him, 372 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: if you were to write a movie. 373 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: Who would you pick as a musical artist that you 374 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: would find entertaining that you would want to go see 375 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 2: a movie. 376 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: About their life? What do you say? 377 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: Well, we came up with the Rolling Stones would probably 378 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: be fascinating. And also Michael Jackson. 379 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but. 380 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: Mostly because of all of the ancillary people that were 381 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: in and out of their lives as well well. 382 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: And we talked about this yesterday and did I or 383 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: did I not call it the moment I saw that 384 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: trailer months ago, I said that thing's going to fail. 385 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: And it's you. You know this because you were a 386 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: music programmer for years and every year, you know, would 387 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: people go out and eat ice cream, They're always like, 388 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: I want this great wacky flavor, right, like more flavors, 389 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: more experiences. But every year at dairy Queen Vanilla's the 390 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: number one Vanilla is the number one server because you 391 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: got to serve to the masses what everybody will eat. 392 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean there is a consumer base for the super 393 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: cherry chewy chocolate chip, but that's a very eclectic, acquired 394 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: group of people who will buy it versus the masses. 395 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: And in the case of the Springsteen movie, the story 396 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: that they were telling is not a story that's compelling 397 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: to the masses, because it was about a time that 398 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't touring, he wasn't doing interviews. It was an 399 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: album and I love that album that in the moment 400 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: nobody bought. Now people went back and bought it later 401 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: after they discovered him from Born in the USA, And 402 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: that's basically the arc of Bruce Springsteen. He was this 403 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: incredibly talented guy who was massive on the coast pre 404 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: Born in the USA, really struggled in the middle of 405 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: the country, does this incredible album where he's the biggest 406 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: rock star in the world, and then lives off that. 407 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: You know. He was also this incredible live act, right, 408 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: but didn't really have much commercial success for almost twenty 409 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: years after that. Had a great comeback in the two thousands. 410 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: But most people when they think of Bruce Springsteen, they 411 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: think of Born in the USA. Sure, and then some 412 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: of this other stuff they uncovered the river, darkness in 413 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: the edge of town Born to Run. But if you 414 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: were gonna make a movie that was gonna be the 415 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: vanilla ice cream of Bruce Springsteen, it would have been 416 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: Born in the USA, or even the story of Born 417 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: to Run is incredible and most people know it by now. 418 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: It's the great forgot you know, the success story. But 419 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: you wouldn't do This is the equivalent of serving triple 420 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: double mocha cherry chewy chocolate chip and going why did 421 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: more people want to eat that? Yeah? 422 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean my argument was that the arc of 423 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: that is not very good. The struggle, it's great, Casey. No, 424 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: the struggle of that keyrrty mouth shut. It was all 425 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: his own internal struggle. 426 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: That's the whole premise of the guy, Casey. That's why 427 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: we like it is. 428 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: The expectations that he put on himself, though it was 429 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: so self serving. 430 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: Hi, pot meat kettle, who do you look at every day? Casey? 431 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: Your own internal struggles in misery were created because your 432 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: two selfs Hello, yeah, you want to go see that 433 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: in a movie? O again the mirror. 434 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, like, why would you want to 435 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 2: go pay to watch that? 436 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: But I thought the fun question was he determined. 437 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: Matt was saying that, Okay, if you're gonna make a 438 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: movie about music, maybe it would be more interesting to 439 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 2: do an era or a genre versus one individual artist. 440 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: Well, but I think you guys touched on two people. 441 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: That'd be interesting because it is vanilla ice Cream. Everybody 442 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: knew for a long period of time Michael Jackson and 443 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: were fascinated with him because he was such a freak show, 444 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: both in his talents and abilities but also his bizarro 445 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: personal life. Right, And there's so many places you could 446 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: take that. I've said, Springsteen's like the most boring guy 447 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: to make a movie about because he was scandal free, 448 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: he didn't do drugs. His effort and life played out 449 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: in the music and the live performances. His love life 450 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: was mundane by rock standards. The Rolling Stone, Holy Smokes. 451 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that? 452 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 2: That would be a long movie, like where do you 453 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: start and end it? 454 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: But you would be like, I gotta see what do 455 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: they say about the allegations of was it Mick Jagger 456 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: and David Bowie or you like all that stuff. You'd 457 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: just be like, what are they gonna do with this? 458 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: What are they gonna do with that. That's the vanilla 459 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: ice cream. That's the stuff that people, the masses would 460 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: eat up. And whether it's music or to some extent, 461 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: talk radio or movies or whatever, you gotta serve something 462 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: that the people in large quantities want to eat. Mm hmm. 463 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: And I think if I were to see that Bruce 464 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: Springsteen movie now, I would almost be more interested in 465 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: watching Jeremy Alan White transform into him than the actual 466 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: story of Bruce Springsteen. 467 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: Inner Pain is very compelling case, is it. 468 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: We got to take a break and get to the news. 469 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: It is ninety three WYBC. 470 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: Did you send your email? Apparently there's a lot of 471 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: people that are the do listen to this show? Yeah, 472 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: we were told nobody listens, but apparently the Department administration 473 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: is getting a flood of inquiries based in our recent segment. 474 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: So have you missed it? Our old pal Stephen from 475 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: Indie Reporter, who does great work digging, and then the 476 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: staff there there's a bunch of mariananymous misfits that don't 477 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: dare peek their head out of the ground. Who'd go 478 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: through all those documents? And you know, look, I don't 479 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: agree with all Steven's opinions on stuff. And sometimes he'll 480 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: say things and I say, WHOA, I don't know. But 481 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: in terms of finding government documents and going through them 482 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: and doing the work and letting the people know what's 483 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: going on, that Indie Reporter account does a lot of 484 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: great work. They had applied for this press or media 485 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: badge or whatever it's called for the upcoming session, because hey, redistricting, 486 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: all this stuff going on, we'd like to be there 487 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: in the you know, in the person. And you'd think 488 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: if the standard is letting convicted federal felon Gabe Whitley 489 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: have a pass, which he claimed they did, and he 490 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: was there doing various alleged media activities, you can't go 491 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: much lower than that guy. And then for some reason 492 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: they denied the Indie Reporter. Now we know why they 493 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: did that. They don't like him. They don't like his politics, 494 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: they don't like that he gives information that we and 495 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: others use. They don't like him digging into No, they don't, 496 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: so they do not money. We read the email that 497 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: they sent him, which was ridiculous. It was from what's 498 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: her name here? Her name was Molly K. Temperman. And 499 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: so then we said everyone should write and call and 500 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: demand that they give Steven and the Indie reporter crew 501 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: a press pass. Look, by all accounts, I'm not aware 502 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: of any felonious activity that any of those people are 503 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: involved in, not that it would matter. They gave one 504 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: to Whitley, but he's not on the they're not on 505 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: a post office anywhere. They're not causing disturbances, they're not 506 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: owing large amounts of money to the government, state or 507 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: federal like they're they're they're you know, hopping over all 508 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: the I guess standards. And so by the way, if 509 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: you'd like to send your on I'm gonna read my 510 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: letter that I just sent here. You can email media 511 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: relations at id O A dot I in dot gov. 512 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: That's Media Relations at id O A dot I in 513 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: dot gov. Or you can call Molly K. Temperman directly. 514 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: Now this is her public phone number. This is not personal, 515 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: this is the this is what she lists on her 516 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: own work number. Emails call me here three one seven 517 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: five two two nine six three one three one seven 518 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: five two two nine six three one and demand to 519 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: know why convicted federal felon gave Whitley allegedly got a 520 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: press credential and the reporter. Yeah, just did and let 521 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: them know. So here's the email that I sent if 522 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: you'd like a you know, a little boilerplate for what 523 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: you might do yourself. To whom it may concern, Well, 524 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe someone else is reading it. I 525 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Maybe Molly has a 526 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: large stash. Sure you know. I didn't what we're paying 527 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: for it. I didn't want them to not read it 528 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: because it addressed to Molly. I am inquiring why Stephen 529 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: Whitmer and the Indie Reporters staff or night to press pass. 530 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: I would particularly like to know what standard convicted federal 531 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: felon and currently facing state charges Gabe Whitley met to 532 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: receive a press pass this past year that Steven and 533 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: Indie Reporter did not. As a member of the media, 534 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: Steven an Indie Reporter regularly provide information used by other 535 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: media figures and outlets in the city. I am one. 536 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: I would strongly encourage you to reconsider and grant them 537 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: media access. 538 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: Uhh, I think I found the problem. Read the line 539 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: about regularly provide Oh. 540 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I said, let's see you Well, let me pull 541 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: this back up here. I'd clicked out of it. Hang 542 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: on here, let's see as a member of the media, Steven, 543 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: an Indie reporter, regularly provide information used by other media 544 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: figures and outlets in the city. I am one. That's fine. 545 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: Oh that's it. So if you'd like to, you know, 546 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying make these people's lives difficult, but you know, 547 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: politely yet firmly urge them to do the right thing. 548 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: You can call Molly K. Temperaman again at three one seven, five, two, 549 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: two nine six three one. You can email media relations 550 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: at IDOA dot I in dot gov and ask why 551 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: are you cutting off access to our state house from 552 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: people who are clearly providing information to the public. And 553 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: the biggest question of all is how did Gay Whitley 554 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: get a breastpass right? What standard could these people possibly 555 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: possibly be Indy reporters not getting one? That's very interesting anyway, 556 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: go ahead. Tom Brady cloned a dog? 557 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: Is that right? 558 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: Do we have time to talk about this real? Yeah? 559 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: To Tom Brady said that his dog Juny, is a 560 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 2: clone of a dog that passed away previously. 561 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: It's very weird, you think, so, it's very strength. 562 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: It was done by Colosso Biosciences, it's a biotech firm 563 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: Tom Brady invests in that wanted to make sure that 564 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: his investment was working. 565 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: That sounds scary, a scary a lot. Yeah, and I 566 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: want no part of Hey, did you hear that pennies 567 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: are going away? Like j C pennies? No, like the 568 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: copper penny one cent. Oh that also sounds very bad. 569 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it may affect you at your next McDonald's trump. 570 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: We'll tell you why. Coming up from ninety three, WIBC. 571 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: Young said by gon't. 572 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: Bested, So what do you tell me? Casey McDonald's rimming 573 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: everyone else. I don't know about that. 574 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: But they are rounding cash transactions to the nearest nickel. 575 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: And this is at some. 576 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: Locations, not all locations, but this is happening across the country. 577 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: And it's because there's a penny shortage. 578 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so they have determined it costs far more 579 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: to make the penny than the penny is actually worth. 580 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: And now there's a push to eliminate the penny and 581 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: as part of that is getting harder and harder with 582 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: fewer people using cash to get pennies. So McDonald's just 583 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: basically said, f this rounding up or down to the 584 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: nearest nickel. If you're some old easer like rob who 585 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: just uses cash when you go places, you gotta make 586 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: us work. That's gonna be the delio. We're not gonna 587 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna eat at McDonald regardless. We're not gonna mess 588 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: with it. If you're you know, if you're so, if 589 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: your deal comes to blah blah, seven dollars and thirty 590 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: four cents now seven dollars and thirty five cents. 591 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: Right, Well, an example, if a meil costs twelve dollars 592 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: and six cents, they would round down to twelve dollars 593 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: and five cents. 594 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: So you actually, oh, you could make money. You can 595 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: make money them. You got to really think that through though. 596 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: In order to make one, right, you have to order properly. 597 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it all comes because the US Mint stopped 598 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 2: producing pennies earlier this year. 599 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Right, so they're done. So when whatever these pennies that 600 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: are in circulation now age out, phase out, get lost 601 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: in drains, whatever, we're done with the penny. Yeah, isn't 602 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: that crazy. 603 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just we're just not going to have more produced. 604 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: So the rounding at McDonald's only applies to cash payments, 605 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: credit card and app purchases aren't affected by this. So yeah, 606 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: if you're the type of person who's carrying cash around 607 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: for your McDonald's purchase, there's a chance you could be 608 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: rounded up or rounded down? 609 00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Does it say? 610 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: What? So? 611 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: Like is a two and up and a down? So 612 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: let's say I was at a uh a three. That's 613 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: a toss up, right, where does it go? Well, that's 614 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: what I'm asking, is like, so if you're at such 615 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: and such a thirty two cents, does that still go down? 616 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: It all round down? I bet the three goes up. 617 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: They're always do in their favor exactly right. Oh well, okay, 618 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: so this is not as clear cut and dry as 619 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: I thought that McDonald's is doing some cash haul here. 620 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: They it may go about even maybe a little in 621 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: their favor. But I actually hear this out now and 622 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: I think, well, maybe that's not Maybe that's not so 623 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: bad because do you think about how long I remember this, 624 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: I worked a cash register multiple times in my life. 625 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: How long it takes to count change the pennies out. 626 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: Right when you're when you're exing er zing it out 627 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, do you ever have 628 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: to do that bow south? 629 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: The cash register. 630 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's gonna create I don't know if it would 631 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: be a problem, but some discrepancies. 632 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: You know. 633 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: It's interesting. When I was I worked at the cash 634 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: register at the Arby's. The Belove Browns were Arby's in 635 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: high school, of course you did, and they were very 636 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: strict about all that stuff matching out. Now. When I 637 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: worked the golf course, one of my deals was I 638 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: would close the golf course and I was in charge 639 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: of the pro shop and the money, and like they 640 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: were so nonchalant is not the right word, but they 641 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: were like, even with the nickels or whatever, hey, if 642 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: this is with it, if you're close enough, they told me. 643 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: They were like, if you're within two or three dollars, 644 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: we don't want to hear about it, right, And I 645 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: was like, wow, we've come along terms of counting cash exactly, 646 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: because they said, we've got a camera on everyone at 647 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: all times. You know, if you're pill we know what's 648 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: going on. They tell you that after you camera there 649 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: amcil the coughs show up. Right. 650 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: So there's some other retailers that are experiencing penny shortages 651 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 2: as well, like Kroger and Loves and also Home Depot. 652 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: But no word on whether those places will be rounding 653 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: up or rounding down. 654 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: I do wonder in my lifetime if we will become 655 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: a all cashless society. 656 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that last night. Went to the 657 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: Pacers game and paid for parking, and. 658 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: Well, you paid you work at the radio station. I 659 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: was not walking at night. It's down the game feet 660 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: to No, it's farther than that. 661 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: You've heard the stories about crime in Indianapolis. I mean 662 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: when you have the Attorney General trying to call in 663 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: the National Guard. 664 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I was not taking a chance. Rob in my life, 665 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: where is much too pressure? Where did you park? That's 666 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: closer than the radio station at the actual fieldhouse? But 667 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: what did you pay? Fifty bucks? It was thirty You 668 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: paid thirty bucks the park and you have a parking pass. 669 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 2: I don't have a parking pass for gamebridge. I have 670 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: a parking pass for the radio. 671 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: This is why I don't go places with you. This 672 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: is why that is. That is the story of the segment. 673 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: I wish i'd known we would have left with that. 674 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: You would have made fun of me anyway, go ahead, 675 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: But when. 676 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: I pulled into the parking garage, you know, it just 677 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: gave them the credit card and they just tapped it 678 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: on their little machine. Isn't There's no swiping, There's none 679 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: of that. It was just a little tap, very quick easy. 680 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: I was in, I was out quickly, no problem. 681 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: Now, if I'd have been your husband, here's what I 682 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: would have said. Yeah, I would have said, look here, lady, 683 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: I'll drop you off. Get to walking in front of 684 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: the stadium. Uh huh. And then you would have left 685 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: me there by myself. Oh well, you could be here 686 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: in front of the stadium. What are they gonna do, 687 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: kidnapping for the stadium before? 688 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: I'm busy pacers, and you never know, I am a 689 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 2: high profile person who co hosts a show with somebody 690 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: who's very bumped back. 691 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: All times. I will park back at the lot and 692 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: then I will walk back here because I'm not paying 693 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: it's thirty bucks to park. Yeah, it was thirty bucks 694 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: to park. That's that's the story. 695 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 2: Right. 696 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: As bad as the Pacers are, they should be paying 697 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: you to park. 698 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 2: You know, we were sitting there watching the game, and 699 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: I said to Jim at one point because they were 700 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: playing the Brooklyn Nets, and had not heard of any 701 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: of the players on the other team except for the 702 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 2: head coach. 703 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: But I asked him, I said, what did these guys make? 704 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: And he said, well, I think the league minimum is 705 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: over million dollars and I said what an he said, well, yeah, 706 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: let me look at over these well one point two 707 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: million dollars for a minimum, even the rookies. 708 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: And then he looked it up. It's like one point 709 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: seven million dollars. And that made. 710 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: Me angry because these are grown ass men playing a game, 711 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: and even a rookie in their first year is making nearly. 712 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: Two million dollars. And I don't mean to rain on 713 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: your parade, but I need to point out to you. 714 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: You know how they're able to pay them that much 715 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: money because people like you with parking passes still pay 716 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: thirty dollars to park at the game. 717 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: That's incredible, though, that a basketball player in his rookie 718 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: year is making almost two million dollars. 719 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: It's not as incredible to me as someone with a 720 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: premium parking pass paid thirty dollars to park in downtown Indianapolis. Yeah, 721 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: I'm sorry anyway, hope you had fun at the game. 722 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: Well we did, We had fun. Yeah, you were very close. Yeah, yes, 723 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: second for roll, Yeah, those were some nice tickets to 724 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: throw a hot dog at anyone. 725 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: No, but I ate a hot dog. I was trying 726 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: to reenact that Sydney Sweeney. 727 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: How they go? How much is a hot dog? 728 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: Oh? 729 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't know for it. I was paying attention. They 730 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: are just that wealthy. I don't know. I you know what. 731 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: We walked up and I made my order. Gay all right, 732 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: that's it for me. I'm done, all right, Thanks Rob, 733 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin, thank you for listening. 734 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 2: It's been Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC