1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Are we on the air? I think we're on the air. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: I think it's actually working now ninety three WIBC. It's 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: the Kendall and Casey Show, and boy howdy, there is 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: nothing like live radio in a brand new studio, or 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: every single day we play America's favorite game show. What 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: is it going to be working today? So for those 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: of you on the YouTube chat, you can see Ethan. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: I think I think Ethan's in the actual studio itself. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: I'm in the producer studio because this microphone works and 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: for some reason the other ones aren't. But they're going 11 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: to figure that out in the meantime radio program straight ahead. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: And by the way, producer keV and producer Carl, they're 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 2: the heroes here. 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: Kev's right next to me. 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: This is closer than Kevin has ever wanted to be 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: to Rob Kendall. But we got a great show coming 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: up for you today, man, I mean, we got an 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: action packed adventure three hours coming your way. 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Just a little bit. 20 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: James Briggs from Indie Starr is going to join us. 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: He's got a really interesting column out about are we 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: going to see a change in how Republicans campaign in Indiana? 23 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty five, in how they go in twenty 24 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: twenty six, in how they govern in twenty twenty six 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: based on what happened at the end of twenty twenty five. 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: Of course, we're talking about that redistricting debacle, and are. 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: We seeing a sort of. 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: An end in the sense of not when it comes 29 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: to governing or policy, but in style in terms of 30 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: how people kind of try to be Donald Trump. We've 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: seen a lot of these candidates, a lot of these 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: officeholders sort of become. 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Something they're not. 34 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 2: So we'll get into that with him coming up a 35 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: little bit later on in the program. Doctor Scott Strong, 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: he is the ultimate numbers guy, and he has crunched 37 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: the numbers on how much the end of the penny 38 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: not only could cost you, but could also make a 39 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: lot of these corporations. This is fascinating. You know, Trump 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: had said, we're getting rid of the penny. It costs 41 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: too much to make the penny. So we are going 42 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 2: to examine how much that could cost you every time 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: you pay for something, if indeed you're using cash. And 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: also on the program, look, we've been at this nine years, 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: so for me to say this may be the most 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: ridiculous thing I've ever seen that carries a lot of weight, right, 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: But we're gonna have a local elected official who is 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: going through maybe the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen, 49 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: because he's trying to give the citizens in his community 50 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: a voice. So all of that is coming up today. 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: And also we're going to be watching now. It is 52 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: believed that the Supreme Court may rule today. The Supreme 53 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: Court may rule today on Donald Trump's tariffs. They may 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: come down and decide issue the decision on whether or 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: not these tariffs are constitutional. And obviously that decision which 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: has been expedited because of the impact that it is 57 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: having Trump's tariffs, whether you're for them or against them, 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: the impact that those tariffs are having on the US economy. 59 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: I mean, we are talking over the life of these 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: tariffs potentially trillions of dollars the estimate was three and 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: a half trillion dollars over ten years. And where that 62 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: money goes and what Look, the tariffs are no doubt 63 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: their tax increases on us. Everything is more expensive because 64 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: of the tariffs, or most things they're more expensive that 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: are being tariffed or having enhanced tariffs because of that. 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: But the reality is it's a lot of money into 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: our government. It's a lot of money that's going to 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: could potentially go to various programs or come back to us, 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: and the Supreme Court will rule today. Now, if you've 70 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: been thinking of yourself, what do you mean like rule? 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: You assume most of you because we have the very 72 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: the very knowledgeable, the very well read audience here on 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: the kindle in case he show up, in case you don't. 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has enacted these tariffs on various countries his 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: first year in office. A group of Democrat led states, 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: in a coordination with some local business groups, have sued 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: the Trump administration, saying these tariffs are unconstitutional in the 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: way that they were levied. Trump used this Emergency Powers 79 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: Act back to the days of Richard Nixon. They said, look, 80 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: you can do tariffs if you want, but there's a 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: process to do the tariffs, and you have not gone 82 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: about it the right way. The Trump administration's argument this 83 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: was fascinating. They basically said to the judges, and the 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: judges really struggled with this in the in the arguments, 85 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: they said, well, if you overturn these tariffs, we don't 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: really have any way to give this money back. 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Is that the most government thing ever. We took the 88 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: money from you. 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: We had the ability to take the money from you, 90 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 2: but we didn't have the ability to give the money back. 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: And that is really I mean, the judges were struggling 92 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: with this. 93 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: The judge, I think it was Amy Coney Barrett essentially 94 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: said hey, and she didn't use these exact words. But 95 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: now that the oral arguments are made available via audio, 96 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: they don't have video in the Supreme Court, but these 97 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: arguments are made available via audio. 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: The uh, I can hear that, so you may be 99 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: on the air. He didn't know that yet, but anyway, the. 100 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court had said, look, we're really aiming. Cody 101 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: Bart said, we're really struggling with how to do this 102 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: because I am sympathetic to you, the plaintiffs that are 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: suing on this, But how do I up in the 104 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: entire government and cause all this mass financial chaos. 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 1: So all of that is on the line today. 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: If indeed the Supreme Court does come down with these 107 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: tariff rulings, all right, we're gonna take a break. 108 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 1: We're gonna catch our breath. 109 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: We'll have some super exciting I gotta grab my template 110 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: because it's still in the other room. Kev's doing an 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: outstanding job. I'm locked in a booth with him. We'll 112 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: take a break and be back. It's kettle a Casey Show, 113 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: ninety three WIBC ninety three WIBC. It's a kennel of 114 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: Casey Show. I'm rob Ethan's here today. We hope you'll 115 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: hear from Ethan here at some point. Oh you can can. 116 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: You hear me now? Oh? How exciting? 117 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: This is just absolutely wonderful and amazing, beyond belief. I 118 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: can hear you if you just if you missed the 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: first segment, well, you know it's a new building, right 120 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: and our favorite game when we come into the wib 121 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: studio see studios each day is what will not. 122 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: Be working today? 123 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: Engineer Nick and his crew are feverishly pounding hammers. Oh, 124 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: I didn't even notice the lights were out on the sign. 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: I think we had some sort of major power outage 126 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: that was causing that to happen. So you can hear 127 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: me now, you. 128 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: Can hear you, You can hear me, We can hear 129 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: each other, and everything is working. 130 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: It's just that lovely. 131 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six is off to a roaring start, all right. 132 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: So here's what we're gonna do Ethan because keV is 133 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: a hero in all this too. I've been stuck next 134 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: to keV here for the past thirty minutes. I'm gonna 135 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: have you filibuster for me for about fifteen seconds while 136 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: I run back in there. 137 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Are you ready? Are you luck with a challenge? 138 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna count it down for you in five. 139 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: Four three two one. 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: And ladies and gentlemen, what you were hearing there is 141 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: true broadcasting professionalism because Rob Kendall is so dedicated to 142 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: the audience that he made sure, even in times of travail, 143 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: to run into the producer's studio where they knew there 144 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: was a working Mark Mike because producer Carl had been 145 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: talking on the radio earlier and everything was working. That 146 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: is true professionalism, ladies and gentlemen. And give it up 147 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: for Rob end On. 148 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: People hear me, Oh no, this is the wrong microphone. 149 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: This is my Oh there we go, all right, the 150 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: right microphone. Run. You're all over the place. You know, 151 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: have you ever had that you ever had that dream? 152 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: And I told you guys right before I left, I said, 153 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: I've had this dream a million times, and it's finally happening. 154 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Have you ever had that where you've had this dream 155 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: your entire. 156 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: Life DJAVU And then it happens where I'm in the 157 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: studio and every button I pressing is not working and 158 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: no one can hear me. And I'm sitting here going, 159 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it's actually happening, and I'm thinking, what 160 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: did I do wrong in my dream? 161 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't. 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Run into the producer studio where that microphone was still working. See, 163 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: years of mental torture that has played out in nightmares 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: that are too horrible to describe has finally helped me out, Ethan. 165 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: It has finally helped me out. 166 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: I'm glad your paranoia finally worked in your favor. 167 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Your obsessiveness and compulsiveness. It finally paid off. 168 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: Sir A, Oh my gosh, it's the Kennel and Casey Show. 169 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm rob Ethan's here. 170 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: Let's give Kevin a chance to catch his breath for a minute, 171 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: cause we've got a ton of audio that I want to. 172 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Get to today. 173 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: But I want to give Kevin just a moment to 174 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: catch his breath and he are you? Are you giving 175 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: me the thumbs up that you're good to go? 176 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: Kevin? Yeah, I've got a couple of clips. Okay, perfect, 177 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: all right, and look at what a professional producer. 178 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: keV is one of the hardest working producers in the 179 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: WIBC building. 180 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you should have seen the look on Kevin's face 181 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: when I said move over, roomy, we're sharing a studio together. 182 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: You know, the look in the office space that the 183 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: Michael Bolton character gives. 184 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: That was the look on Kevin's face. But he did 185 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: a great job. 186 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 3: I'm imagining like a Looney Tunes with the eyes that 187 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: turned into dinner plates, you know. 188 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's go back to Minnesota. Now that we 189 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: have our audio and everything's ready to go, let's go 190 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 2: back to Minnesota. Obviously, that is the lead story across 191 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: the country, pending when this Supreme Court announcement comes down, 192 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: if it does indeed come down today. But Christy Nome, 193 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: she's I had a Homeland security she had a big 194 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: press conference yesterday, and she said the obvious look. You 195 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: got to give the Trump administration credit. I think they 196 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: learned a lot from twenty twenty and the race riots 197 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: and things of twenty twenty. I think they learn how 198 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: to handle things better. I think they learned you can't 199 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: placate these people, they're out to do damage. You can't 200 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: try to get along with them. You can't worry about 201 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: the media says you got to just kick ass and 202 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: take names. And Christy Nomes said yesterday the obvious if 203 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: you touch an ICE agent, they're coming after you. 204 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: The Trump administration is using every single tool that we 205 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 4: have to protect the American people, sanctuary policies, whether they're 206 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: here in New York City, whether they're in California, Illinois, 207 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: or Minneapolis. If you are a criminal, illegal alien, we 208 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: are coming to get you. We will arrest you, we 209 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: will bring justice, and we will also bring safety to 210 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: the American people. We are warning anyone if you think 211 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: you can harm an individual, a citizen of the United States, 212 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: or a law enforcement officer, we will find you and 213 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 4: bring you to justice. If you lay a finger on 214 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 4: one of our officers, we will catch you, we will 215 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: prosecute you, and you will feel the full extent of 216 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 4: the law. In every single thing the Trump administration does, 217 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: we put the American people first. 218 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: It's like a well dove thing. But given what we 219 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: went through the past. You know in twenty twenty and 220 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: obviously you're an Indianapolis guy, you live not that far 221 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: from downtown. It really isn't a well done anymore. And 222 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: it's good to hear them say that we are not 223 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 2: backing down on this. We're here to do a job. 224 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: We're going to keep doing the job. Well. 225 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 3: It needs to be stated, it needs to be reiterated, 226 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: and it needs to set a direct contrast to the 227 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: previous administration which helped foment this lawlessness that has spread 228 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: across the country. And yes, absolutely it's unacceptable to use 229 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: your fists, to use your vehicle, to use other weapons 230 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: against law enforcement officers. And this used to be common sense, 231 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: but not anymore. And yes, it absolutely should not and 232 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: cannot be tolerated in a law abiding, orderly, civil society. 233 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: All Right, one more clip for Christy Noan before we 234 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: get to this interview with James Briggs, which is super 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: interesting and talking about are we going to see a 236 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: change how Republicans campaign and how they govern? 237 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six. 238 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: Christy Nomes says that this is a really interesting statistic, says, 239 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: two point six million illegals have left the company, the company, 240 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: the country since Trump became president. 241 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: Also thanks to President Trump, we have two point six 242 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: million people who have left our country who shouldn't have 243 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: been here in the first place. They were here illegally, 244 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: and over six hundred and fifty thousand of them were arrested, detained, 245 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 4: and deported back to their home countries. Two million of 246 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: them left voluntarily, recognizing this was their opportunity to go 247 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: home and come back someday the right way, so they 248 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 4: have a chance to enjoy the American dream again. 249 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: It sort of seems like a well done thing, right, 250 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: like either we have rules and we have laws, or 251 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: we don't. Either we have a way to come into 252 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: this country legally or we don't. And yet it's like 253 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: this novel thing that she's saying that out loud, and 254 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: there are people who on the left who are very. 255 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: Offended by that. 256 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane that we have fostered a group of 257 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: individuals who flagrantly violate immigration law and expect to be 258 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: rewarded for that callous disregard for the rules of our 259 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: of our society in any country has the right to 260 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: control its borders and control which individuals come in the 261 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 3: country and which individuals potentially pose a danger contense. 262 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're just we're so we're so void of 263 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: that now in our in our society, keV, do you 264 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: have number three ready? 265 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: Can you get that? Okay? Very good? 266 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: All right, So I did want to want to play this, 267 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: and amazingly, Ethan, if keV properly executes this next clip 268 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: I'm about to play, despite the train wreck of the start, 269 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: we will be one hundred percent back on track on 270 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: our show this morning. So Scott Bessett, he's the Treasury secretary, 271 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 2: he was he was talking about the fraud in Minnesota 272 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: and this is a staggering statistic. He said that there 273 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: could be up to sick one hundred billion, not million, 274 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: six hundred billion of government spending that is fraudulent. Take 275 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: a listen to this. 276 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think that this may just be 277 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: it's cold dale outside, so this could be the tip 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: of the iceberg here in. 279 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: Minnesota, but it's probably may not be as prevalent, but 280 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 5: the dollars may be bigger and larger in other states. 281 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: And just to put this in perspective for American taxpayers, 282 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 5: for American families, the GAO, the General Accounting Office, believe 283 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 5: that there is somewhere between three and six hundred billion 284 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 5: of annual fraud, roughly ten percent of government spending. 285 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: That disappears due to fraud. 286 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 5: If we can recapture that, that is one to two 287 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 5: percent of GDP. 288 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: That is such an indictment of the entire not just 289 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: the federal government, but the whole governmental process. Literally, there's 290 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: just nobody over looking over anything. Six hundred that's a 291 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: number you can't even I mean, it's what is that. 292 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: That's base that's larger than the GDP of several smaller 293 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: third world countries. 294 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: Many, in fact write and think about how rich Elon 295 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: Musk is. And let's say it's three hundred billion. Let's 296 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: say it's not even six hundre Let's say it's three 297 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: hundred that's his entire net worth, the entire net worth 298 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: of Elon Musk, the richest man in the world, and 299 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: it's happening every single year. That's your money, that's printed money, 300 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: it's inflation, it's the cost of living, it's skyrocket. 301 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: Yes, would you like to know what Elon Musk's net 302 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: worth is? 303 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: I know the basemin look on your face. I'm not 304 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: sure I do want to know, But go ahead. 305 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: Between six hundred and seven hundred billion, so his net 306 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: worth is equivalent to the potential fraud in the United 307 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: States government, and you wont the tenth of the GDP. 308 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: The last time you asked for a fifty cent an 309 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: hour raise, they told you to get lost. 310 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: So it's hard to it's hard. It's not hard to 311 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: see why people think the economy is not really working. 312 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: All right, Well, take a break. When we come back, 313 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: our old pal James b Indie Star interesting column out 314 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: about in the wake of redistricting, will we begin to 315 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: see Republicans change not just how they govern, but also 316 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: they how they campaign in Indiana. We'll get into it 317 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: next ninety three WIBC. So are we gonna see a 318 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: change on how Republicans campaign in twenty twenty six? Let's 319 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: get into it ninety three WIBC. It's Kennell and Casey Show, 320 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: joined in studio by our old pal James Briggs, columnist 321 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: Indie Star. He has a very interesting piece that came 322 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: out yesterday about whether as the Trump presidency enters its 323 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: final years, we're gonna see a change in how candidate's 324 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: campaign and about how they govern. 325 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: James Briggs joins us Now, James, Hello, good morning. Did 326 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: you beat up any reindeer over your holiday break? Well, 327 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: let's get to that second. 328 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: First, of all, I want to say this, I feel 329 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: very good because the Star is moving studios as well. 330 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: So you guys are sharing the misery we are here, 331 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: which is we're every day you walk in playing America's 332 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: favorite game show, What Won't Work Today? 333 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely true. Yeah, we're in the exact same place. Okay. 334 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: So this is Colin and you always I love your writing. 335 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: And you wrote something yesterday about how we may see 336 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: a really stark change in how Republicans campaign, how they govern. 337 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: And you started with the backlash against Chris Garden. What 338 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: is he the majority floor leader in the Senate. He 339 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: posted this bizarro AI meme of himself kicking the crap 340 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: out of Santa Claus and people were like, dude, what 341 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: are you doing? And that kind of spurnt on this 342 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: column that you did about perhaps seeing a change in 343 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: behavior from Republicans. 344 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and just but I mean it was insane, by 345 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 6: the way, we should probably describe it. If you haven't 346 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 6: talked about this already. He posted these AI generated images 347 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 6: of himself punching Santa launching himself like off the top 348 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 6: rope on Santa Well like there and it was like 349 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 6: in front of the Indiana State House with like a 350 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 6: bunch of people holding gardens signs all around. It's it's 351 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 6: sort of this like WWE styled imagery that he created there. 352 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: And he's got these super huge muscles. 353 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, like a cut off, cut off Santa suit in 354 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 6: one of them. 355 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: And then there's this weird thing about he's doing it 356 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: because of something about bureaucracy with the North Pole, and 357 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: it was like, dude, what is going on in you? 358 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Like what are you? What like? 359 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: And then when people rightfully so were saying, you're one 360 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: of the main elected people in Indiana and this is 361 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: what you're doing, then he started insulting people who are 362 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: rightfully pointing out you look like a crazy person. 363 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 6: And he like one of the weirdest things to me 364 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 6: is he defended himself by saying he and his kids 365 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 6: had a blast doing that, Like I don't know, I 366 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 6: don't know what his kids are like, that's not like 367 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 6: how I spend time. 368 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: With my kids. I don't know. 369 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like this year we taught you know, Livy 370 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: learned about Santa and she loves san And he's a 371 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: great character that comes down the chimney. What a great guy, 372 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: and he brings presents and no this guy's teaching his kids, 373 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: let's put our boot between his butt cheeks because there's. 374 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: Too much bureaucracy. Yeah, yeah too. Yeah. It was crazy. 375 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 6: And so the other thing too, is it came right 376 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 6: on the heels of the redistricting fight. And he did 377 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 6: a floor speech right before redistricting failed in Indiana in 378 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 6: December which was just absolutely maniacal. 379 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: He was like pounding the lectern, yelling. 380 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 6: I mean, it was like the most theatrical crazy speech 381 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 6: in a day full of them. 382 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: No person has ever genuinely been that passionate about redistricting exactly. 383 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: That is what I'm saying. 384 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 6: You cannot convince me that anyone cared about the issue 385 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 6: as much as he was pretending to. Yeah, and it 386 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 6: is sort of on the same level that he was 387 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: depicting violence towards Santa. He was like treating redistricting as 388 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 6: the most important issue in the history of the universe. 389 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: And there's no way he believes that. 390 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 6: And that is exactly the sort of performative politics that 391 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 6: I think might be, you know, might be waning right now. 392 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: And I think he may be buying stock in that 393 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 6: rate at the wrong time. 394 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: Now, what you mean by that is there in the 395 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: era of Trump, many people, and I think the best 396 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: example of this is Todd Rokeita in his twenty eighteen 397 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: race that failed. They try to become Trump, they try 398 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: to morph into Trump. And really it's interesting because it's 399 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: one thing to say I'm going to govern in the 400 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 2: lines of Trump or Trump policies, but these people are 401 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: out there trying to be Donald Trump. Yeah, and for 402 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: most of them it really doesn't work out that well. 403 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: No, And I think people, I mean, you saw this. 404 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 6: I think I mean you've had a really front row 405 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 6: seat to this in the lieutenant governor battle where you know, 406 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 6: Mike Brown picks Julie McGuire someone know what. 407 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: He'd really ever heard of. 408 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 6: But she gets an endorsement from Donald Trump, but nobody 409 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 6: really cared because I think people sort of saw Micah 410 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 6: Beckwith as the more authentically MAGA figure anyway, right, and 411 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: so like she didn't prevail at the convention. 412 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: He did. 413 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 6: And I think I think people even within that universe, like, 414 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 6: no matter how people are acting like the Todd Rokeatas 415 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 6: of the world or whatever, I think people sense authenticity 416 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 6: and they sense who has it and who doesn't. 417 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think, by the way, James Briggs is our 418 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: guest columnist Indy Star. His new column, Maga, peaked in 419 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Here's what the crash looks like in Indiana. 420 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: You're right, people listen this program because I am this guy, 421 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: you know, twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. 422 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: You and I've talked about this many times. I genuinely 423 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: feel the way that I espouse these beliefs about the people. 424 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: But for a lot of people, they don't right and 425 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: they had to become that and people see there then go, 426 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: you've never been this way before? 427 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: Who is this? 428 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 6: And I think Mike bron is one of those figures 429 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 6: who really misunderstood his own success because he you know 430 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 6: that that primary you just mentioned where Todd Raketa lost 431 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: trying to be really trumpy. Mike Bron won that Senate primary, 432 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 6: defeated Roketa, who was really bent after that, by the way. 433 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: But Mike Bron won. 434 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 6: And I think Mike Broun's lesson from that is he 435 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 6: won the battle of the trumpiest. But what actually happened 436 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 6: was he ran a brilliant campaign with like his branding, 437 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 6: his you know, his blue shirt, his ads were just 438 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 6: amazing where he he had like those cardboard cutouts of 439 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 6: his opponents, including Rakeda, and his point was, you who 440 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 6: can even tell these guys apart? Like there was a 441 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 6: lot of there were a lot of really smart things 442 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 6: about Mike Brown's campaign, but I don't think he won 443 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 6: that campaign because he was so trumpy. But he in 444 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 6: the years since, has taken this idea that he has 445 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 6: to be the Trumpiest guy in the world, and it's 446 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 6: just constantly it falls flat every single time. He just 447 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 6: is not that person, and it's so obvious he's not 448 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 6: that person. And I think that's why we're seeing him 449 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 6: spin out as governor right now, because he's he's trying 450 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 6: to be this Trump guy, but he's just not and 451 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 6: he just keeps failing. 452 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: H James Briggs, columnist Indie Star, is our guest, and 453 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: again I want to be clear, I'm not I'm not. 454 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: I don't think even you are in this column talking 455 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: about Trump policies. We're talking about the people out there 456 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: campaigning the way they're presenting themselves, not their votes themselves. 457 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: And I think another great example of this is Jim Banks, 458 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: like he like and Rokena is too. Rokena, by all accounts, 459 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: was a pretty normal Secretary of State. 460 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: He did things that people liked. He was very professional. 461 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: He tried to draw let artificial intelligence draw the con 462 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: retional maps. 463 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: Banks the same way. 464 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 2: Like he was a normal dude when he was in 465 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: the house. He was pretty normal when he or even 466 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: in the cent Indiana Senate and then he gets in 467 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 2: the US and ers running for US. 468 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: Senate's like, who is this guy? Yeah? 469 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 6: I think WWE is like a great framing to think 470 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 6: about these guys, because Banks is another figure who I 471 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 6: listened to him on a podcast recently, and he was 472 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 6: like his normal self, like. 473 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: Without the character. 474 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 6: Like, but there's like something that these guys like when 475 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 6: the lights come on or when they're on social media, 476 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 6: like they flip a switch in their heads and they 477 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 6: become this character that they've invented. And Banks is like 478 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 6: one of the you know, one of the biggest ones 479 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 6: who just has this invented persona. And and he's also 480 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 6: I think as a you know, as a consequence of that, 481 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 6: he's also like one of the most thin skinned people 482 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 6: out there. He's he's ragging on people all day, calling 483 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 6: them losers. And you know, the guy the laid off 484 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 6: worker they saw by the elevator, calling him a loser, 485 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: you deserve to lose your job or whatever. But when 486 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 6: anyone comes at him, he is just immediately defensive and 487 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 6: thin skin. 488 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, here to your person acquiring now one buddy. 489 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: My thing on all of it is because all these 490 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: guys say horrible things about me, Just say my name. 491 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: That's all. Like they won't say my name anyway. 492 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,719 Speaker 2: How does this change in terms of what you think 493 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: you're going to see from Republicans this year? And was 494 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: redistricting sort of the first great example of that change 495 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: in which they sort of defied the Chris Garton type people. 496 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you mentioned Donald Trump a moment ago. I 497 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: do think. 498 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 6: I do think there's a sense in which Donald Trump's 499 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 6: hold on MAGA peaked in twenty twenty five. And I 500 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 6: think you saw that he came into office as popular 501 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 6: as he'd ever been. He had a clear mandate. The 502 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 6: public was on his side to crack down on illegal immigration, 503 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 6: to lower prices, those. 504 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: Are the things he talked about. The public was on 505 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: his side. 506 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 6: But he ended the year greatly weekend I think by 507 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 6: the Epstein files, by people not loving. 508 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: What he's doing with the economy. 509 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 6: And then I think we saw probably you know, if 510 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 6: that had not happened, I don't think you would have 511 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 6: seen Indiana Republicans feeling the confidence to rebuke him on 512 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 6: redist I think there's a sense in which he is 513 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 6: a weaker person and powerful or his power is weakened 514 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 6: from what it used to be. Because of that, I 515 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 6: think Republicans feel emboldened to oppose him now that was 516 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: not the case before. 517 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: So that's sort of step one. 518 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 6: But I think the other side of that that I'm 519 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 6: looking at going forward now is I think you see 520 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 6: what happened in redistricting maybe picking up steam. Like Senator Good, 521 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 6: who I think was seen as a figure with a 522 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 6: lot of integrity. He held a town hall during redistricting 523 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 6: in Indiana, listened to people, and then very earnestly shared 524 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 6: his thoughts about why he. 525 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: Didn't support it, and that was popular. People liked that. 526 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 6: People liked hearing from someone who just shared honest thoughts 527 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 6: about why, you know, how they thought about it, why 528 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 6: they came out against it. And my sense is that 529 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 6: we're maybe moving toward a period where people feel the 530 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 6: incentives are more toward acting like that instead of acting 531 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: like a clown on Twitter, and beating up Santa. 532 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: I think so. 533 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 6: One example I put in my column is Vivek Ramaswami, 534 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 6: who's running for governor in Ohio, former presidential candidate. He's 535 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 6: the guy right, yeah, and he was even on He 536 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 6: was an original along with Elon Musk. 537 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: He Trump appointed him as a co leader of DOGE. 538 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 6: He was there for three days. Yes, yeah, I did 539 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 6: last long, but he was there. He was in the 540 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 6: trumpy mix, but he did it. Not bet for the 541 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal recently where he said he's getting off 542 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 6: social media. It doesn't need that in his life. It's 543 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 6: giving him a warped view of the constituency. And he 544 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 6: wants to get in touch with real people. And I 545 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 6: think to me, and by the way, this is a 546 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 6: VVVEC is a really really smart guy. He built a 547 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 6: fifteen billion dollar biotech company. If he sees that there's 548 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 6: a market for ernest politics and just listening to real people, 549 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 6: I think there's something to that. 550 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: Real quick, I have a thirty seconds left. What do 551 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: you think the biggest story in Indiana politics is. 552 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Going to be this year? Oh? 553 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: Wow, Because you did a column and I love that 554 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: you did this. You did a column saying all the 555 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: things you got wrong last year. I mean, you got 556 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: things right too, but you're like, here's all the things 557 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: I miss. If you have the bold prediction, what do 558 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: you think is the thing? 559 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean? 560 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 6: I think the most interesting thing to watch is what 561 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 6: happens to Republicans who opposed redistricting. Does anything actually happen 562 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 6: to them? Is there any money that comes out against 563 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 6: them in primaries? Anyone actually succeed in taking them down? 564 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 6: I'm really really skeptical. I think now that redistrict redistricting 565 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 6: is over, I think any donors to any such movement 566 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 6: are not going to see any return an investment in that, 567 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 6: and I think that's going to fizzle out. 568 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: James Briggs column. This Indie Star new piece out. It's 569 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: very very interesting. Maga peaked in twenty five. Here's what 570 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: the crash looks like in Indiana. Thank you, my friend, 571 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Yeah. 572 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: Kennel and Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 573 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: So Janie Bance went off on Tim Walls yesterday and 574 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: you got to hear this. We'll play that audio here 575 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: at a second, but first couple of programming notes. It's 576 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: Kennelly Casey Show and rob Ethan's in for Casey today, 577 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: keV is here. Look, keV is a real MVP in 578 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: all of this because so those of you who have 579 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: been listening the whole hour, we had a just a 580 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: complete meltdown of equipment, and Kevi and I shared the 581 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: producer studio for the opening segment, and he's remained calm 582 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: the entire time. And you know, I don't do well 583 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: when my stuff gets like even moved or is out 584 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 2: of place, much less what we went through. But you 585 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: got to add it to me, Ethan, a lot of 586 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: grace under pressure there by me. 587 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and that's what training is all about. So that way, 588 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: when you fall in on time you had a disaster, 589 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: it's all just muscle memory at that point. 590 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 591 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So a couple programming notes coming up Monday. So 592 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: many of you longtime WIBC listeners will remember old producer Jason, 593 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 2: who was Tony Katz producer, the Midday Show producer. Producer Jason, 594 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: he's like a renaissance man. He does a photography business, 595 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 2: he's got a music business, he's a he's got a 596 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: website business. He does all sorts of freelance stuff, travels 597 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: the country, he does yes and as part of that 598 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: we send him down to southwest Indiana because there's all 599 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: this stuff going on with the Mid State's. 600 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: Corridor, Right. 601 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: We've talked about this, this multi billion dollar short stretch 602 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: of road that seemingly could end up making the governor 603 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: and his business a lot of money if it goes through. 604 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: Just everybody down there's against it, and the in dot 605 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: now has said they're trudging forward with it despite canceling 606 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: hundreds of projects that seem much much higher priority. 607 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: And so we said, well, we want. 608 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: To know what's actually going on in the community down there. 609 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 2: You know, we've seen the polling that shows everybody hates 610 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: Braun in his home county. We've had the guest on 611 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: who was talking about how people I said, I want 612 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: to hear. 613 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: From the people themselves. 614 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: So we sent producer Jason down to do Boys County 615 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: yesterday and he did a bunch of you know, man 616 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: on the street type of interviews on exactly how people 617 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: in southwest Indiana are feeling about Braun, what they think 618 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: about the Mid States Corridor. And so beginning Monday, we'll 619 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: have a little multi part series because look, we just 620 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: don't get down there, right, Indianapolis media doesn't get down 621 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: to Southwest Indiana. People might think we're making it up 622 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: on how low that braun actually is. 623 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: And so we said, let's go. 624 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: Down talk to random you know, just random people, and 625 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: let's see what they're thinking. 626 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: And so Monday we're gonna start. 627 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,239 Speaker 2: We're gonna producer Jason in He's going to tell us 628 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: some of these people that he talked to what the 629 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: vibe was. I think the mid States Corridor story could 630 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: potentially be should maybe be the biggest story in Indiana 631 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: news this coming year, at least until we get into 632 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: the you know, the throes of the election. Because you 633 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 2: have a wildly unpopular project with a horribly high price 634 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: tag that has very little understood benefit for anybody but 635 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: people you know, in the trucking or transportation industry and 636 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: the land owning industry. 637 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: And that just. 638 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: Happens to be how Mike bron made his money is 639 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: in distributing stuff. So I think that's I think it's 640 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: a megastory. So we'll get that coming up today ten thirty. 641 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: We've got we've got a town councilman who has now 642 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: been essentially locked out of town hall because he's he's 643 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: asking a question he's putting for in a public policy 644 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: initiative that the community appears to be for, but is 645 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: fellow colleagues are vehemently against. So their response was they 646 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 2: shut off as KIFOP. So we'll ask about that because 647 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: this is a it could be a great display ethan 648 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: of how much these elected people actually hate the voters 649 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: to the point they're now basically locking somebody out of 650 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: town hall for doing something they didn't like. And then 651 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: at eleven thirty, we're gonna have a guy on who's 652 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: going who's He's a numbers guy, doctor Scott Strong, friend 653 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 2: of the program. 654 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: He's a numbers guy. 655 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: And he has done the math on how much the 656 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: death of the penny could end up not only costing 657 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: you but also making for these mega corporations depending on 658 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: how they do the rounding. So it's all coming up today, 659 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: A big show, all right. 660 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: So JD. Van's Vice President of the United States. He 661 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: was he did a. 662 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: Press conference, a big you know, you know, Q and 663 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: a all sorts of stuff, and he was talking about 664 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: Tim Walls and this multi billion dollar welfare fraud in Minnesota. 665 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. 666 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 7: I think Tim walshon resigned because it's very clear either 667 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 7: that he knew about the fraud of Minneapolis, he knew 668 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 7: about the wealth Fair fraud, or at the very least he. 669 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: Looked the other way. 670 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 7: I mean, this is not this is not like lex 671 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 7: Luthor right, this is not movie villain fraud. This is 672 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 7: the lowest IQ possible fraud. This is we're gonna take 673 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 7: kids or sorry, we're gonna take the absence of kids 674 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 7: and set up a daycare center where there are no children, 675 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 7: and we're gonna call our early childhood education center the 676 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 7: Quality Leering Center. By the way, if you can't spell learning, 677 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 7: maybe you shouldn't be in early childhood education. But people 678 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 7: got rich off of this. We know that there were 679 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 7: schools who either had no enrollment or at least they 680 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 7: overstated their enrollment. Tim Waltz either it was unbelievable in 681 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 7: competence or he was in on the fraud. 682 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: That's one of the things we're gonna get to the. 683 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 7: Bottom of. 684 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: Real quick, because I want to get this other piece 685 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: of audio in and then we can talk about it. 686 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: The time we got left. But another clip of JD. Vans. 687 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: Here he is and his credit. He is standing up 688 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: for Ice. 689 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: He's going after the press for condimt i'ming the Ice 690 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: agent who, as he says, defended himself when that lady 691 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: was driving her car at him. 692 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 7: This is politics, and often Republicans and get in arguments 693 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 7: with the press about things, and I understand that. I 694 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 7: think it's really irresponsible for you guys to go out 695 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 7: there and imply or tell the American people that a 696 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 7: guy who defended himself from being rammed by an automobile 697 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 7: is guilty of murder. 698 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: Be a little bit more careful. 699 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 7: We're to talk about toning down the temperature, which I 700 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 7: know the President wants to do and I certainly want 701 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 7: to do. One of the ways we tone down the 702 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 7: temperature is to have a media that tells the truth. 703 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 7: I encourage you all to do that. 704 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: God bless you. Look. 705 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about this either, but 706 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 2: to me, Minnesota now is ground zero of one how 707 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: rotten all government is, how it's totally incompetent. When you 708 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: put it in charge of anything, it just ruins whatever 709 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: it touches. But two, how of the default position of 710 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: government being bad, how much worse it can get when 711 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 2: you put these lunatic lefties in charge of things. 712 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: Well, it's also ground zero for everything that is basically 713 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: going wrong in America right now. You have the unfettered 714 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: immigration issue, the fraud, waste and abuse in government issue, 715 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: the dishonesty of the media issue, the radical elected politicians 716 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 3: who are making things worse for their community on a 717 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: day by day basis. And it's all stewing there in 718 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: this small community that otherwise wouldn't be getting so much 719 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: attention if things weren't going so drastically wrong. And that 720 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: is solely the responsibility of the Democrats who are currently 721 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 3: in charge. 722 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: All right, speaking of the wacky left, we've got some 723 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: audio from the wacky left confirming everything we just said. 724 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: We'll play for you coming up next, Kelly Casey Show 725 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: ninety three w