WEBVTT - VisionQuest, Part 1 (Episodes 1 - 4)

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames Per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another episode of the Frames Per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen the title, so you know we're reviewing Vision Quest.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be doing episodes one through four of

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<v Speaker 2>the new series, but I am your host today.

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<v Speaker 1>With me, I have Spike Lu.

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<v Speaker 3>What up?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike. Yo. Rod. What up, man? And Ken. Hola, como esta? And...

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<v Speaker 1>Muy bien. I see, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we got four episodes, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I know y'all probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen, I'm talking to the listener, I know you've probably

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<v Speaker 2>seen WandaVision, also Agatha all along, even Doctor Strange.

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<v Speaker 4>All this is kind of tied in together. This is

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a trilogy.

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<v Speaker 2>All this is tied together, but I haven't gone back

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<v Speaker 2>in watch any of that yet. I plan to before

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<v Speaker 2>the series is over, but did any of y'all watch

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<v Speaker 2>any of it, follow up?

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it all, but I didn't go back and

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<v Speaker 1>do a re-watch. You didn't re-watch anything? What's tied to

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<v Speaker 1>this with WandaVision?

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<v Speaker 2>WandaVision, Agatha All Along, and basically Doctor Strange, the multiverse movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah. So all those are kind of tied to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about Agatha All Along. That was such a disappointment.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically Age of Ultron, but but yeah so nobody did

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<v Speaker 2>anything okay i understand i mean i didn't either so

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<v Speaker 2>that's why i'm just asking.

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<v Speaker 5>No right now i'm doing i think i might have

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<v Speaker 5>mentioned it on the offline that i'm doing a rewatch

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<v Speaker 5>of the uh universe with my son we're at we're

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<v Speaker 5>almost at black panther i think yeah yeah yeah so

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<v Speaker 5>we're almost at affinity if anyone so we're almost at

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<v Speaker 5>affinity war so uh but uh but no i hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>The shows and stuff, I hadn't gone back. I always

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to go back and watch WandaVision because I was

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<v Speaker 5>so harsh on it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning just to see how I felt about

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<v Speaker 1>it now.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, that was probably the only one that I

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<v Speaker 5>would probably want to go back and watch, but I hadn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a little over a month away from Doomsday, too,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're trying to get some synergy going.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Spike.

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<v Speaker 6>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are a fan of WandaVision. I was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one Marvel show that you said you fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I did fuck up.

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot what happened, really.

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<v Speaker 7>And then jumping into this one without re-watching it, it's like,

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<v Speaker 7>what the fuck's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. So how are you feeling about this, though? It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't bad TV. I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know Voltron, and I ain't seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Voltron? I ain't watched... Obviously, you don't know Voltron. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know none of them niggas, man. This don't hit for me, really.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the actor.

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<v Speaker 7>I like Spader, the actor, his dad, or whatever. The

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<v Speaker 7>story's cool, but it's just... I always feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 7>missing someone more.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always interesting to hear you say that because sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be like, oh, maybe I can tell somebody to

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<v Speaker 2>watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>One without feeling lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell no. This ain't the one. Watch without feeling lost.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell no.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this one ain't, but it's always interesting hearing

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<v Speaker 2>him say it. Like, yeah, I'm lost on this. But

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<v Speaker 2>you actually watched WandaVision.

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<v Speaker 7>I watched WandaVision and we reviewed Agatha all along.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah. One, I forgot what happened and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'm lost. Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. What about you, Mike? Did I go back and? No,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you feel about this? Y'all can have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bored to tears. I don't care about Vision.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't care about this assassin.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much. Rod?

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<v Speaker 5>I think the verdict's still out with me. I do

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<v Speaker 5>like the way it's produced. And I do like the

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<v Speaker 5>writing of it all. Because I've always liked the poetry

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<v Speaker 5>of Vision and how he speaks. And so now having

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<v Speaker 5>Ultron with just Just as smart, just as brainy as him. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>it's something that's intriguing about that to me. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>keeping me kind of holding on to it. But I

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<v Speaker 5>went with them a little bit. Like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't know if it's enough to keep me

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<v Speaker 5>held on, especially with the villain or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, it's not strong enough. So, yeah. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. It's not the villain no more, right? Didn't

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<v Speaker 3>they kill him at the end of the day?

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<v Speaker 1>He's not dead.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think he's the, he's not even, you talking

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<v Speaker 5>about Paladin?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was somebody that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that Bert, the Bert? Well, I guess we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. We don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I doubt it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt it. Yeah, it's not. So if it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>that is kind of intriguing because I am.

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<v Speaker 5>Wondering who was the master of all of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think it's enough there to keep me like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll wait to the end and see if I like this.

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<v Speaker 5>Because like with WandaVision, it started off rough for me,

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<v Speaker 5>but then I end up liking it by.

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<v Speaker 1>The end for the most part. Yeah, they got me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested.

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<v Speaker 8>The first episode was a little slow, but it really

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<v Speaker 8>built up well to the point where I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>I like what's going on here. Because I saw people

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<v Speaker 8>saying it was boring, and I saw these commentary on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I don't want to expect. What B say?

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<v Speaker 4>He say he over this superhero shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I expect. It totally makes sense. He don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about Doomsday. Now he lying. Now he lying for no reason.

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<v Speaker 8>But nah, I was really interested. Once the story started

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<v Speaker 8>to unfold a little bit more, I was definitely interested.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, who the fuck is the boy? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on? So yeah, they got me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm locked in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I fuck with this. Especially me locked in. I

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted to make sure Ultron came back. Now, is

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<v Speaker 2>this the way I wanted Ultron to come back?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're building steps, so I want to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm a fan of Ultron, especially... I just think

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't do Ultron justice in Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't do him justice. I like him in Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool, but it should have been more, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt rushed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>So but I'm I'm fucking with this I like kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like.

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<v Speaker 2>The intrigue of like I thought maybe a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>points were going to last longer they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>like hold them out as far as like the memories

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff and all that I thought that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to take longer to get to and all that but

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<v Speaker 2>since they're past that it's like alright now I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see how far are y'all going to go like

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<v Speaker 2>what conversations are y'all going to try to have so

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's my intrigue level to who is the

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<v Speaker 2>real big bad I'm with y'all on Assassin that shit

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<v Speaker 2>was trash So, yeah, let's get right into it. Episode

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<v Speaker 2>one basically starts out with us with Vision living in Edinburgh,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to understand humanity while living with the memories of

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<v Speaker 2>his former self.

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<v Speaker 4>And in his mind, he has these other three AIs,

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<v Speaker 4>which we know three of them.

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<v Speaker 2>We know all of them because Tony Stark created them

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<v Speaker 2>in other films, Jarvis, Friday and Edith. And they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to help him basically manage his identity and try to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>But.

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<v Speaker 2>We found out that basically, this nigga got Ultron living

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<v Speaker 2>in him. Y'all watched it, so y'all know Ultron was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be there because we watched the trailer.

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<v Speaker 1>Did y'all forget? I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>Since y'all forgot, how did y'all feel about seeing Ultron

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<v Speaker 2>actually showing up?

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Nah, he's some old fucking white dude with a beard. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>James Spader. That's red from the blacklist. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that was James Spader. But I still don't care. I

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<v Speaker 1>do care. Because like I said, I always liked Ultron.

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<v Speaker 5>And just like they did Vision, to see the actual

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<v Speaker 5>actor playing him or whatever was really cool. Because I

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<v Speaker 5>like his snarky talk. I love that about Ultron.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I really like that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I like the bickering between the two of Vision

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<v Speaker 5>and Ultron.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it provides a good balance. Yeah, when I

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<v Speaker 8>saw it, I was like, oh, this ain't going to

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<v Speaker 8>work out. You know, you see Ultron, and you already

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<v Speaker 8>know where it's going to go. So, no, this is

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<v Speaker 8>actually bad news. I don't know why he's doing this.

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<v Speaker 8>But I did like it. Vision having Ultron in there, bro?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was saying that he's not Vision. He keeps saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Vision. Yeah, he's Vision. But I get it.

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<v Speaker 8>The identity crisis, the whole thing of the Thesis ship

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever they eventually got to. But, no, we knew

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<v Speaker 8>what was going to happen. At some point, he's going

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<v Speaker 8>to get out of there. This is the way to

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<v Speaker 8>get him out of there and bring Ultron back.

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<v Speaker 1>But, yeah. I messed with him.

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<v Speaker 8>Once I was James Spader, I was like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 8>like him. And I think he's– it doesn't feel like Ultron.

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<v Speaker 8>It feels more like Red from the Blacklist. But I

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<v Speaker 8>do like the dialogue that they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it feels like Ultron to me. Really? Just without

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<v Speaker 1>the extra effect on his voice. Because that was Ultron.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he played him. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>The same– after they played Vision, they just had him–

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<v Speaker 5>just in real life playing Ultron okay yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So they just okay I got you it was always

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<v Speaker 1>his voice it was always him.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah you know what bro I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 5>ever knew that oh okay yeah yeah it was always

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<v Speaker 5>him and I damn okay yeah that's what makes it

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<v Speaker 5>cool I had no wow I think they did that

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<v Speaker 5>correct me if I'm wrong I think they did that

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<v Speaker 5>with all of them like Edith and Friday I think

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<v Speaker 5>those are the actual actors of the voices of those might.

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<v Speaker 8>Be right that just added that just added added a

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<v Speaker 8>little extra too okay cool I think those are the

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<v Speaker 8>actual actors of the AI.

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<v Speaker 9>AI.

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<v Speaker 1>That Stark and them created.

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<v Speaker 3>Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry. My slow moment. No, no, no. My look is

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<v Speaker 1>more so... I got a lot of nose hairs.

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<v Speaker 3>He's trying to get through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright. Well, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We also see somewhere else that Thomas Shepard is somebody

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<v Speaker 2>out there. And he's having these experiences and memories of

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<v Speaker 2>Wanda and Vision and basically what happened in WandaVision.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's eventually captured by Paliton.

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<v Speaker 2>And this episode continues to have that going on. Did

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<v Speaker 2>that intrigue y'all at all? Just like this boy is

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<v Speaker 2>having this somewhere... No, you didn't. Because y'all probably didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Even remember Agatha and the revelation of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But you just didn't give a fuck, Mike.

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<v Speaker 8>No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no. Spike? No. No fucks. What was the revelation

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<v Speaker 1>of Agatha?

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<v Speaker 9>That they were killing people in order to put the

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<v Speaker 9>soul of the little witch boys in them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I do not remember that. Yeah, that was like

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<v Speaker 1>the last episode. Last episode. You realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>The boy and the witch, you realize it's Wanda's son.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason.

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<v Speaker 3>She was trying to hide him or something, right?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>She basically wanted their soul to exist after she got

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<v Speaker 4>rid of Westview.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she threw it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>And then I think at the end, he says something like,

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<v Speaker 9>wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, am I making that up? I thought he said

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<v Speaker 1>something like. He had a brother. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>And he was like, am I killing this person so

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<v Speaker 9>my brother can live? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the kid was drowning.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That happened in Agatha? I'm pretty sure that was in Agatha.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I didn't like Agatha. That's the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that made it salvageable to me. I didn't really like it.

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<v Speaker 1>That show was awesome. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Vision also discovers that Ultron has basically been responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for exposing his location because, you know, he's in hiding.

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<v Speaker 4>And is raising questions about whether Ultron was going to

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<v Speaker 4>genuinely be good. And obviously he can't. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>And Vision is forced to confront the fact that despite

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<v Speaker 2>having the memories of his former self, he is struggling

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<v Speaker 2>to understand who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Did y'all really fuck with this?

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<v Speaker 2>I think this was cool because he does have all

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<v Speaker 2>the memories, all the things of Vision.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's not vision. He's trying to connect to it,

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<v Speaker 4>but he can't. Did that fuck with.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all at all?

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<v Speaker 5>I get what he's saying. It's just, it is a

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<v Speaker 5>lot to try to process.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not. It is a lot to try.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a slow moment.

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<v Speaker 1>God damn. It is like, and I'm not doing it

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<v Speaker 1>on purpose.

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<v Speaker 5>I just, I don't know what other word to use,

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<v Speaker 5>but it is a lot because it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so much. It's like, damn.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you'll eventually catch up, but it is a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a lot to be desired. That's why I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saying if anybody don't have any type of history with

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<v Speaker 5>these characters or AIs that's been in the Marvel Universe,

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to be like, what the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I was watching it.

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<v Speaker 8>I do have the context, but I'm still in trouble. like,

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<v Speaker 8>connecting to this part of the story. Like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Vision, but no, I'm not. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>It's just like, all right, cool. You want to create

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<v Speaker 8>some trauma or, you know, some, you know, situation, some

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<v Speaker 8>sort of conflict with the character. But this part of

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<v Speaker 8>the story doesn't really work for me. It's like you

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<v Speaker 8>whining all the fucking time.

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<v Speaker 1>I fuck with it. Honestly, I fuck with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I like this concept of, like, I'm in this person's body.

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<v Speaker 1>I have all these memories.

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<v Speaker 4>And even being, like, a synth, like, I can't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Synthozoic. Synthozoic.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, you can have all these things and you can

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<v Speaker 2>process it on this logical level, but I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>Truly connected to it.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's an interesting dynamic because it's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of things happening at one time for me.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the thing that confused me was like, so

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<v Speaker 5>is all of this stuff happening simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>While he's just going about life? You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I remember on the first, maybe second episode, too,

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<v Speaker 5>We saw all this happening while he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting in an abandoned room or something.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's just like, okay, now that he's pretty much shut,

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<v Speaker 5>powered down, not moving around, all of this stuff is

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<v Speaker 5>happening in his mind. But now we're seeing him walk around,

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<v Speaker 5>travel with his son, and all of this stuff is

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<v Speaker 5>still going on in his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't you do it every day? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I don't. But yeah, I'm saying that. But...

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just like, why show it this way and

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<v Speaker 1>then show it the other way?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you saying one he's dreaming and one he's not?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what you're saying? No, it's not about dreaming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the processes that is happening in his head

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<v Speaker 2>while things are happening at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're thinking that we should only be seeing it

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<v Speaker 1>when he's dreaming? I'm not saying that we should. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying, I'm trying to understand why did they do

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<v Speaker 1>it that way?

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<v Speaker 5>Why did they make it seem like when he's just

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<v Speaker 5>chilling or whatever, all this stuff is happening, but now

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<v Speaker 5>we're seeing him as he's moving around that it's still happening.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it happens, but if you see him interacting,

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<v Speaker 9>then that means he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Stopped, right? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 9>So like, okay, so when they're showing him actively doing stuff,

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<v Speaker 9>in his brain, we're seeing everyone but him. The only

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<v Speaker 9>time we're seeing him in his brain is when he's

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<v Speaker 9>stopped and he's, like, in the freezer or whatever or

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<v Speaker 9>he's not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Or when Tommy calls him out, like, where are you going? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>why did you just stop? Right. That's when he's going

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<v Speaker 4>into his brain. And he's talking, like, to the other AIs.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're coming to him. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so it's just him interacting with him, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that part's a little confusing to me. That part's

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<v Speaker 5>a little hard to keep up with. My brain doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>want to process it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. Like, you know, it's like, okay, when is it happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like Inside Out, right? Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>You haven't seen it, but yeah, it's Inside Out where

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<v Speaker 8>it's kind of emotions. They are kind of the emotions of,

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<v Speaker 8>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, you've seen it. Yeah, they definitely pulled that from that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just with people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good reference, actually. That's a really good reference, actually. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's never in there, though. No. See what I'm saying? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's because she's a child, so she's not actually,

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know that she needs to be processed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, never mind. Yeah, no, she doesn't go in there

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>A child wouldn't be able, that doesn't have the cognitive

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<v Speaker 2>piece experience to actually be going back in their brain, like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why did I do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Why did I feel this way?

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<v Speaker 1>But, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, well, we'll move on to episode two.

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<v Speaker 1>It picks up from here, Mike. Does it? Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>must have missed those episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode, we explore a little bit more of Thomas'

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<v Speaker 2>past through a flashback to when he was in prison,

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<v Speaker 2>where he meets Lisa and discovers that she has and

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<v Speaker 2>that he has unusual powers. So in present, Paliton holds

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas at St. Mabin's, and it's a psychiatric facility to

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<v Speaker 2>lure Vision into a trap. Vision really doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, but then Ultron invokes the ship Theseus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The Paradox. And challenges him on it. Be the

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn king.

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<v Speaker 2>Did y'all fuck with this conversation? Have y'all been fucking with...

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<v Speaker 2>Did y'all get anything from their dynamic?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this interesting at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Their relationship between Vision and Ultron? The way Ultron kind

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<v Speaker 2>of pushes back on the way Vision is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think about things?

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<v Speaker 1>Ultron is.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on what y'all saying, he's fooling me.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought that he was trying to turn a new

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<v Speaker 5>leaf and just try to think about things.

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<v Speaker 1>In a different way. Because, I mean, it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't admit that, like, yeah, I will kill them all.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he was on bullshit.

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<v Speaker 5>He said it, but even when he had the little pigeon,

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<v Speaker 5>the courier pigeon, go out or whatever, he came back

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<v Speaker 5>and said, yeah, I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, that was on purpose. After they kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>two and two together.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but he was just like, no, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 5>speed along the process of the inevitable or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So, he's fooling me.

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<v Speaker 5>It seemed like, and then the way he was talking

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<v Speaker 5>to Edith in the episode, I don't know if we

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<v Speaker 5>got there yet, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like he was trying to be nice to her, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>They're trying to bring some sort of humanity into Ultron.

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<v Speaker 8>They were, but it's still Ultron. And that's how I've

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<v Speaker 8>always looked at it. Maybe I don't know enough about Ultron.

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<v Speaker 8>I just like the character. I don't know the history

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<v Speaker 8>of him. But, yeah, it just seems like they're trying

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<v Speaker 8>to bring some sort of humanity into him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm telling you that again because I know the

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<v Speaker 4>history of Ultron. I'm just like, this nigga's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm pretty sure it's not good. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything good.

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<v Speaker 2>But even outside of that, I think even the humanity piece,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it as just manipulation. He's sitting there all day.

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<v Speaker 2>He's watching, like, how humans interact. He's understanding just humanity. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, all right, yeah, he's going to use it,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when vision has even less concept of humanity and

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<v Speaker 2>attachment to it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, I can use this as my way to

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<v Speaker 4>eventually get out of here.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's just running all these different simulations while he's

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<v Speaker 8>up in that room, you know, Because he is a prisoner. Yeah,

0:19:19.310 --> 0:19:22.910
<v Speaker 8>imprisoned from everybody else. So he's like the dark subconscious

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<v Speaker 8>that's in people. And he's kind of representing that. And

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<v Speaker 8>he's just kind of locked away from these dark impulses.

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<v Speaker 8>But I did like it. I like the whole conversation

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<v Speaker 8>about the ship thing. That is this age-old thought exercise

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<v Speaker 8>that they go through.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 8>He was like, yeah, it's fucking bullshit because you forgot

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<v Speaker 8>about this. So I like the conversation that they had

0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.719
<v Speaker 8>and even how they– eventually brought that back later on.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like, yeah, when he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>be the goddamn king. You know, so I did like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how smart he is.

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<v Speaker 5>Quick aside though, did you wear that shirt because they

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<v Speaker 5>were watching San Francisco?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like coincidence. Coincidence? Wow. I didn't realize I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching. Now it was on, damn. Yeah, it was on.

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<v Speaker 5>And I figured that's why that AI was called Dummy

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<v Speaker 5>and then you because he says you big dummy.

0:20:09.390 --> 0:20:12.550
<v Speaker 1>You big dummy. So I was like, I was wondering if. Huh.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't say nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you look like. Is that why they call dummy

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<v Speaker 1>and you? I doubt it. Is this a coincidence too?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, because member Tony Stark named him that.

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<v Speaker 1>But did he watch that? I don't remember him watching

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<v Speaker 1>Sanford and Son. But I haven't watched those movies in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. Yeah, I haven't either. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>actually came back and said, you know what? He was

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<v Speaker 1>watching Sanford and Son.

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<v Speaker 3>It was definitely planned on this.

0:20:35.090 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was planned on this.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm like, that's a rare, really weird coincidence that

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<v Speaker 5>one is named you and one is named Dummy.

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<v Speaker 1>So where's Big? Big Dummy. He is big. Who is Big?

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<v Speaker 1>Compared to the other one, yeah. He is pretty big. Yeah,

0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:53.300
<v Speaker 1>he's bigger than him. That is true. Aha!

0:20:53.340 --> 0:20:56.139
<v Speaker 9>Wait, who was watching San Francisco? Were the AIs watching

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<v Speaker 9>or was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. Ultron was. Ultron was watching it. Yeah,

0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.140
<v Speaker 1>he was watching it. Yeah, he might be on to something. Yeah,

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.380
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering that. Because I didn't remember them naming

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<v Speaker 1>him Ewan Dummy.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the little thing was... I think he called it

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<v Speaker 9>Dummy when he was... Remember, I think Dummy was the

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<v Speaker 9>thing that was smashing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the swinging thing in the first one. Oh, he

0:21:11.830 --> 0:21:16.149
<v Speaker 1>called him Dummy? Yeah. I think so. I don't remember you, though. Yeah,

0:21:16.250 --> 0:21:17.170
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember you either.

0:21:17.910 --> 0:21:18.170
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:21:18.410 --> 0:21:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:21:19.270 --> 0:21:21.010
<v Speaker 2>Similarly, I just haven't had time to dive back into

0:21:21.030 --> 0:21:23.410
<v Speaker 2>the bag. Like, even my nerve bag is getting very low.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, Vision, eventually he's going to go rescue Tommy.

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<v Speaker 2>But it just goes bad because, you know, Palutena basically

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<v Speaker 2>shoots this nigga and destabilizes him.

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<v Speaker 4>And so, basically, Jarvis sacrifices himself. You know what I'm saying?

0:21:40.460 --> 0:21:41.659
<v Speaker 1>Y'all didn't give a fuck. I can see it on

0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:43.120
<v Speaker 1>your faces. No, it was cool.

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:44.919
<v Speaker 4>Well, I can see you on this side of the

0:21:44.940 --> 0:21:45.520
<v Speaker 4>chair's faces.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, they really don't give a fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I really honestly didn't care about it either. I think

0:21:54.050 --> 0:21:56.570
<v Speaker 8>sacrifices have to be made, and that was fine. I

0:21:56.590 --> 0:21:58.790
<v Speaker 8>think they really kind of wanted us to connect to

0:21:58.850 --> 0:22:01.729
<v Speaker 8>it and feel sad that Jarvis was leaving and all

0:22:01.750 --> 0:22:02.330
<v Speaker 8>this other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was just like, all right, they can bring

0:22:04.130 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 1>him back. He's just fucking cold. Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 8>But either way, it didn't work for me. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>all that interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>So y'all didn't like how, like, so do you think,

0:22:13.619 --> 0:22:14.980
<v Speaker 5>Ultron manipulated that situation?

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I do that, yeah. This would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good time for somebody to... Because he didn't volunteer himself.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly.

0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:23.950
<v Speaker 1>Somebody got to step up. It ain't going to be me.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't going to be me. Yeah. And I thought that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what I think you should do?

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 8>And if all of them are gone, then who's left?

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<v Speaker 8>He's just the only one left. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 8>thought that was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, it was a call... Like, I just saw it.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a callback to Age of Ultron when.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't... The AI was called Ultron too? That took

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<v Speaker 1>over Jarvis? Y'all remember that in Age of Ultron? What

0:22:50.460 --> 0:22:51.109
<v Speaker 1>was that called?

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<v Speaker 5>The programming that took over Jarvis, like it basically destroyed Jarvis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was Ultron. Okay, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it took me back to, man, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>to me, it's like that play all over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 5>Because when he breaks up like this, that happened in

0:23:08.460 --> 0:23:11.500
<v Speaker 5>Age of Ultron. And Ultron just told him to basically

0:23:11.540 --> 0:23:14.510
<v Speaker 5>do it or whatever. So it's like a, a replay

0:23:14.570 --> 0:23:15.130
<v Speaker 5>on that.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question. I'm going to try to help

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<v Speaker 1>us out here a little bit. You're bored, right, Mike?

0:24:02.490 --> 0:24:05.970
<v Speaker 1>Right now? Yeah, right now, too. A little bit.

0:24:06.730 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Is there anything in the show right now that is

0:24:10.300 --> 0:24:12.550
<v Speaker 2>appealing or worth Hold it on to us.

0:24:13.050 --> 0:24:14.250
<v Speaker 1>All of it is just completely boring.

0:24:14.590 --> 0:24:16.310
<v Speaker 9>I mean, I got a little interested when the woman

0:24:16.330 --> 0:24:18.209
<v Speaker 9>showed up, just because I don't know who the hell

0:24:18.230 --> 0:24:18.570
<v Speaker 9>that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one? The voice. The what?

0:24:22.630 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 7>I only got interested.

0:24:28.460 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>The woman. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The woman. Yeah.

0:24:32.700 --> 0:24:37.740
<v Speaker 7>When they killed, when whoever killed the bounty hunter dude

0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:38.939
<v Speaker 7>and was like, we don't need you no more.

0:24:39.460 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 1>He's not dead.

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.090
<v Speaker 7>Whatever she did. She said she didn't need him no more,

0:24:43.230 --> 0:24:46.510
<v Speaker 7>whoever that was. That was the only interest in time.

0:24:46.530 --> 0:24:49.470
<v Speaker 1>But that's the big bag. So that's not Butcher Bird.

0:24:50.230 --> 0:24:52.389
<v Speaker 4>I don't believe it is because he already came across

0:24:52.430 --> 0:24:52.850
<v Speaker 4>Butcher Bird.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why he was telling the person who hired him,

0:24:55.350 --> 0:24:57.210
<v Speaker 2>he was like, you didn't tell me it was two synthosoids.

0:24:59.670 --> 0:25:00.850
<v Speaker 1>And that's why he wanted to keep the contract.

0:25:00.890 --> 0:25:02.580
<v Speaker 2>He was like, you gave me a contract for one,

0:25:02.619 --> 0:25:03.710
<v Speaker 2>but now I'm dealing with two.

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>He was terrible at his job either way. But, yeah.

0:25:08.330 --> 0:25:13.100
<v Speaker 2>I'm with y'all as far as the assassin. That nigga,

0:25:13.220 --> 0:25:14.979
<v Speaker 2>I could care less about what's going on with him.

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>He put that suit on and it just was worse.

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.859
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what? You got the suit on. You're not

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.350
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be worse. The suit was corny.

0:25:22.369 --> 0:25:29.010
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so Paladin is like... All comic books have bad villains.

0:25:29.090 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 8>Paladin is up there with a terrible villain for.

0:25:34.780 --> 0:25:37.540
<v Speaker 8>But it works because he's grounded on the floor. He

0:25:37.580 --> 0:25:39.500
<v Speaker 8>don't really do shit. So he don't have power. So

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.810
<v Speaker 8>it's easy to produce. But yeah, when I saw Paladin,

0:25:42.850 --> 0:25:46.370
<v Speaker 8>I was like, y'all got this whack ass motherfucker? He

0:25:46.550 --> 0:25:48.770
<v Speaker 8>fought Daredevil and all kinds of other people. I've never

0:25:48.869 --> 0:25:52.050
<v Speaker 8>liked Paladin. So he's clearly there just as a pawn

0:25:52.090 --> 0:25:54.830
<v Speaker 8>because there's no way he can fucking compete with Vision.

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<v Speaker 3>Who said Daredevil whooped his ass?

0:25:56.950 --> 0:25:59.109
<v Speaker 1>Didn't he? Didn't he say that? Paladin said that?

0:25:59.730 --> 0:26:01.420
<v Speaker 3>They was talking about him. He was like, he ran

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:02.340
<v Speaker 3>into other people.

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 7>He said Daredevil whooped his ass and two more people

0:26:04.500 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 7>whooped his ass.

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:07.020
<v Speaker 1>He's always getting his ass whooped.

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<v Speaker 8>For them, the EMP thing was smart because they kind

0:26:10.340 --> 0:26:15.050
<v Speaker 8>of weakened vision. But, bro, this motherfucker is made of

0:26:15.230 --> 0:26:16.490
<v Speaker 8>vibranium or adamantium?

0:26:16.530 --> 0:26:19.189
<v Speaker 2>He made of vibranium, but he used antimanium bullets to

0:26:19.210 --> 0:26:19.550
<v Speaker 2>get the pen.

0:26:19.570 --> 0:26:23.420
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, which was smart. So that made sense. But at

0:26:23.450 --> 0:26:25.540
<v Speaker 8>the same time, it's still fucking vision. What I did

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 8>like in the first episode.

0:26:26.700 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>We had action. He's mad. I think it was a

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:29.380
<v Speaker 1>smart plan. He's actually hurt.

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 2>He's been hurt for the last couple episodes because of that.

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, yeah. He just ran out of bullets. Yeah,

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>he was like, oh, fuck.

0:26:35.619 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 8>No, I, yeah, because first, in episode one, the action

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.810
<v Speaker 8>was cool there when he just wanted to test him

0:26:43.869 --> 0:26:47.389
<v Speaker 8>out and see what he was dealing with when he

0:26:47.430 --> 0:26:49.830
<v Speaker 8>killed that lady. And then episode two, was that the

0:26:49.910 --> 0:26:53.389
<v Speaker 8>one where he walked into the trap?

0:26:53.430 --> 0:26:56.030
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the trap. Yeah, that one was pretty cool too.

0:26:56.070 --> 0:26:58.100
<v Speaker 8>But I'm looking at this, I'm like, how the fuck

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.770
<v Speaker 8>are you going to defeat this as Paladin? Like, bro,

0:27:01.810 --> 0:27:05.810
<v Speaker 8>you're weak when you compare to this thing. But the

0:27:05.850 --> 0:27:08.610
<v Speaker 8>bullets made sense. And it fucked him up. And by

0:27:08.650 --> 0:27:12.169
<v Speaker 8>episode three, his ass was, you know, he was in

0:27:12.210 --> 0:27:12.950
<v Speaker 8>serious trouble.

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So I have a question.

0:27:16.660 --> 0:27:20.139
<v Speaker 2>So there's, I'm going to try to pivot, and we

0:27:20.180 --> 0:27:24.939
<v Speaker 2>don't have to go beat by beat. There's a theme

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:29.130
<v Speaker 2>of like, not dealing with what grief is, I guess,

0:27:29.150 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. And Vision trying to deal with the

0:27:33.740 --> 0:27:36.460
<v Speaker 2>piece of, like, that's my son, but it ain't my son.

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Like, does that shit.

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 6>That ain't mine. I don't know who's kid that is.

0:27:45.770 --> 0:27:50.070
<v Speaker 6>Show me the test. Wait, wait, what is it, Spike?

0:27:50.109 --> 0:27:51.290
<v Speaker 6>The video?

0:27:51.330 --> 0:27:52.929
<v Speaker 1>Send the video. Send the video.

0:27:54.530 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>So, like, This relationship piece of him, like, trying to

0:27:58.500 --> 0:28:02.570
<v Speaker 2>figure out what's going on with him and Thomas, like,

0:28:02.609 --> 0:28:07.969
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't feel any, like, does that do anything for

0:28:07.990 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 2>y'all at all?

0:28:08.609 --> 0:28:12.470
<v Speaker 7>It's cheap because I don't know. I don't know the son.

0:28:13.030 --> 0:28:16.290
<v Speaker 7>And he's going back and forth saying whether it's his

0:28:16.330 --> 0:28:19.430
<v Speaker 7>or not. I thought it was an interesting conversation when

0:28:19.450 --> 0:28:21.070
<v Speaker 7>he first, when dude first took him and they was

0:28:21.109 --> 0:28:23.260
<v Speaker 7>in the bar. And he was like, I played this

0:28:23.300 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 7>through my head however many times, and this ain't my son.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.780
<v Speaker 7>I thought that was an interesting conversation of how he

0:28:28.820 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 7>looked at it. But no, there's nothing there as far

0:28:31.740 --> 0:28:33.699
<v Speaker 7>as me as a viewer. Like, oh, man, I hope

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:34.340
<v Speaker 7>he figures it out.

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.620
<v Speaker 1>You feel the same way, Mike? Yeah, 100%.

0:28:40.620 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 9>I don't care.

0:28:41.300 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if that's his son. I don't care

0:28:43.460 --> 0:28:44.940
<v Speaker 1>if it's not his son. I don't care if he

0:28:44.980 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 1>knows this is. I don't care. Yeah, this show did

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:28:47.980 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 7>You were saying earlier, for somebody to just check this

0:28:51.700 --> 0:28:54.330
<v Speaker 7>show out and not really be into this, like, you're

0:28:54.350 --> 0:28:56.210
<v Speaker 7>going to sit there like, bro, what in the fuck

0:28:56.250 --> 0:28:56.770
<v Speaker 7>is happening?

0:28:58.510 --> 0:29:01.950
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I do think that, I.

0:29:03.970 --> 0:29:07.050
<v Speaker 8>Think Marvel, what works against Marvel is that everything is

0:29:07.090 --> 0:29:07.610
<v Speaker 8>so connected.

0:29:07.630 --> 0:29:08.150
<v Speaker 1>Connected.

0:29:08.490 --> 0:29:10.850
<v Speaker 8>But for me, I just love that world, but it's

0:29:10.890 --> 0:29:13.630
<v Speaker 8>not for casuals. Like, a show like this and some

0:29:13.650 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 8>of the other stuff they're doing, they're just like, we

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 8>got Disney, we got people paying us a month, we

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 8>got to put stuff on here so we get a

0:29:19.540 --> 0:29:21.950
<v Speaker 8>chance to live in this world. But I do think

0:29:21.990 --> 0:29:25.210
<v Speaker 8>when I'm watching it, I do think about if somebody

0:29:25.250 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 8>hasn't watched this, are you giving enough context for them

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 8>to kind of at least catch on and.

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.510
<v Speaker 7>Follow us where we were? But are you stuck on

0:29:35.590 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 7>the connectiveness of it? I'm just not sure why it matters.

0:29:42.740 --> 0:29:45.590
<v Speaker 7>Like you said, since I'm not in the world and

0:29:45.620 --> 0:29:48.610
<v Speaker 7>then I am in it enough to know that it

0:29:48.710 --> 0:29:51.930
<v Speaker 7>does matter, the stuff that does matter, they don't point

0:29:51.970 --> 0:29:54.030
<v Speaker 7>it out. It's just like you have to know it.

0:29:54.050 --> 0:29:56.209
<v Speaker 7>You just got to be there watching it. So again,

0:29:56.250 --> 0:29:59.240
<v Speaker 7>when I'm watching it, I like the actors and I

0:29:59.260 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 7>like the people in it. It's done well, but it

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 7>just don't hit. Cause I have no fucking idea what

0:30:03.420 --> 0:30:05.300
<v Speaker 7>they like, why, why any of this matters.

0:30:05.980 --> 0:30:10.070
<v Speaker 8>So it's, it's, it, yeah, it will because Tommy's good. Well,

0:30:11.050 --> 0:30:13.430
<v Speaker 8>they're eventually going to phase all these other, other guys out.

0:30:13.470 --> 0:30:14.150
<v Speaker 8>I think we're right.

0:30:14.350 --> 0:30:17.230
<v Speaker 5>I always think that Disney's hope is that there will

0:30:17.270 --> 0:30:18.580
<v Speaker 5>be intrigued, right?

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>From the movies and things like that.

0:30:20.860 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 5>And you feel like you need to go back and

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:23.860
<v Speaker 5>watch low key and all these other things.

0:30:23.940 --> 0:30:26.100
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'm, I guess I got to go watch Loki.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying?

0:30:26.620 --> 0:30:28.380
<v Speaker 5>Even if you don't watch it on the first go around,

0:30:28.900 --> 0:30:31.460
<v Speaker 5>eventually you'll go back and watch it for context.

0:30:31.660 --> 0:30:34.950
<v Speaker 1>This ain't doing it. Loki was way more.

0:30:35.570 --> 0:30:36.790
<v Speaker 3>That's a good example.

0:30:36.810 --> 0:30:38.410
<v Speaker 1>You're right. But they did a much better job with

0:30:38.430 --> 0:30:40.790
<v Speaker 1>Loki for someone like me. Oh, okay.

0:30:40.910 --> 0:30:42.690
<v Speaker 3>I understood and it was entertaining.

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It feels weird, but I'm going to spike. Yeah.

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Watching Loki.

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.460
<v Speaker 9>I can see why that would make somebody want to

0:30:52.500 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 9>go backwards and be like, okay, what is going on?

0:30:54.980 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>The timeline.

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, what's the timeline? This is not giving me anything

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 9>that makes me feel like, oh, shit, I need to

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 9>go back and figure out what happened. Who is this

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 9>little boy? And why does he know magic? And who's

0:31:06.860 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 9>this girl that he has a crush on?

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Who cares?

0:31:09.420 --> 0:31:14.250
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not magic. It's not magic? What is it?

0:31:15.660 --> 0:31:21.450
<v Speaker 1>Shut up, Spike. What is it? Why? I want to

0:31:21.470 --> 0:31:23.210
<v Speaker 1>know what it is. I think this is the quick,

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.940
<v Speaker 1>this is the fast one. This is Speedster. Oh, the

0:31:26.020 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>other one had the magic. Gotcha. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yeah,

0:31:29.860 --> 0:31:30.340
<v Speaker 1>he got me.

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 9>Hold on.

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.660
<v Speaker 1>Hold on. Hold on. I saw that thought in his

0:31:36.700 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>head when you said that. That's why I laughed. He

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.930
<v Speaker 1>was taking it back. I was taking it back. I

0:31:40.930 --> 0:31:43.430
<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a minute. It's not?

0:31:43.490 --> 0:31:48.250
<v Speaker 2>Like, who this nigga talking to?

0:31:49.410 --> 0:31:51.810
<v Speaker 1>Ken, I guess I can ask you. It's for the room, too.

0:31:52.730 --> 0:31:55.010
<v Speaker 2>There's a piece of Ultron that we know is just,

0:31:55.430 --> 0:31:57.730
<v Speaker 2>as we obviously find out, that he's just being deceptive

0:31:57.780 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and he's not really.

0:31:58.650 --> 0:32:01.620
<v Speaker 1>But there are some questions that he's asking Vision that

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>he's not really answering.

0:32:02.820 --> 0:32:05.580
<v Speaker 2>It's like this piece of, and I guess this is

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.580
<v Speaker 2>why it's interesting to me. There's this piece of him

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 2>telling him to deal with grief, but he's also emotionally like,

0:32:10.940 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>he's a centaur.

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>He's always just like, you know, really how to do it.

0:32:13.460 --> 0:32:15.340
<v Speaker 4>So I think it's an interesting thing for me to

0:32:15.380 --> 0:32:15.700
<v Speaker 4>see that.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.980
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about the dynamic of Ultron being

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 2>like the voice in his head to actually deal with some.

0:32:22.020 --> 0:32:23.590
<v Speaker 1>Of the bullshit that he's kind of like suppressing?

0:32:25.790 --> 0:32:29.590
<v Speaker 8>You know, it's difficult because I think he's just really,

0:32:29.670 --> 0:32:31.530
<v Speaker 8>at the end of the day, trying to trick him

0:32:31.730 --> 0:32:35.870
<v Speaker 8>and get him emotionally weak and unstable and to rely

0:32:35.930 --> 0:32:39.370
<v Speaker 8>on him. And he's using grief as a vehicle to

0:32:39.550 --> 0:32:44.130
<v Speaker 8>do that and trying to help him. I think he's

0:32:44.150 --> 0:32:47.010
<v Speaker 8>giving them good advice, especially when it comes to being

0:32:47.050 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 8>a father and kind of giving them some guidance on

0:32:49.820 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 8>how to answer certain questions. I think the other AI,

0:32:52.500 --> 0:32:54.500
<v Speaker 8>when they came in and you could see him say, okay,

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.700
<v Speaker 8>you got to sit down and put your arm around

0:32:56.740 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 8>him or you got to ask this question. He's asking

0:32:58.740 --> 0:33:02.900
<v Speaker 8>the questions. But everything with fucking Ultron for me, anytime

0:33:02.940 --> 0:33:04.220
<v Speaker 8>he's trying to say something.

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:04.660
<v Speaker 1>It's a lie.

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.270
<v Speaker 8>So I don't believe he's sincere in any of the

0:33:08.330 --> 0:33:10.210
<v Speaker 8>things that he's saying. If it was one of the

0:33:10.290 --> 0:33:13.270
<v Speaker 8>other ones, like Jarvis or Friday or something like that,

0:33:13.350 --> 0:33:15.410
<v Speaker 8>or the older one that used the typewriter, I can't

0:33:15.430 --> 0:33:17.780
<v Speaker 8>think of her name. If they were having a conversation

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:18.700
<v Speaker 8>with him, who?

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:19.459
<v Speaker 1>That's Friday.

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Edith is the one.

0:33:20.420 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Edith, okay.

0:33:22.340 --> 0:33:26.100
<v Speaker 8>If Friday was having this conversation, it would seem more genuine.

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:30.420
<v Speaker 1>But Ultron, Ultron on bullshit, bro. Yeah. So, y'all think

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.300
<v Speaker 1>he's just on straight bullshit? I don't. He said it.

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't. Really?

0:33:35.460 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he's on bullshit, but I think he's asking, like, real... Like,

0:33:38.820 --> 0:33:42.090
<v Speaker 2>an evil person can... It's just manipulation. It's, like, it's

0:33:43.140 --> 0:33:45.350
<v Speaker 2>something you should be considering, but he's using it for

0:33:45.950 --> 0:33:48.690
<v Speaker 2>his own... He's not doing it because he cares about it.

0:33:48.730 --> 0:33:50.110
<v Speaker 2>He's doing it because I can use it as an

0:33:50.150 --> 0:33:50.890
<v Speaker 2>advantage over you.

0:33:50.970 --> 0:33:57.620
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I kind of see it like how I saw Thanos. Like, sure....

0:33:59.390 --> 0:34:02.650
<v Speaker 5>He's justifying certain things. So for Ultron, when he was

0:34:02.690 --> 0:34:06.270
<v Speaker 5>the AI, he only saw it one way. He only said, nah,

0:34:06.290 --> 0:34:08.930
<v Speaker 5>this is based on all of y'all are basically killing

0:34:08.969 --> 0:34:11.930
<v Speaker 5>yourselves or whatever, so I might as well just fast

0:34:11.950 --> 0:34:13.590
<v Speaker 5>forward to it and get it done for you because

0:34:14.390 --> 0:34:17.410
<v Speaker 5>you're destroying yourself anyway.

0:34:17.430 --> 0:34:21.450
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he's learning as well that there may

0:34:21.510 --> 0:34:25.610
<v Speaker 1>be other ways around it or something. Because what's his

0:34:25.700 --> 0:34:26.110
<v Speaker 1>end goal?

0:34:27.150 --> 0:34:33.410
<v Speaker 2>Probably still tequila's all why same reason he had before.

0:34:33.130 --> 0:34:35.129
<v Speaker 5>Yeah it's not like so y'all think he's changed at

0:34:35.230 --> 0:34:38.910
<v Speaker 5>all why would he he's a processing system like he

0:34:39.469 --> 0:34:42.310
<v Speaker 5>he develops over time that he's having he's noticing different

0:34:42.330 --> 0:34:44.969
<v Speaker 5>experiences and he says it i love i love it

0:34:44.989 --> 0:34:47.740
<v Speaker 5>you don't like his dialogue i'm really surprised you attacking

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:52.299
<v Speaker 5>me i'm because i thought you would appreciate like The

0:34:52.380 --> 0:34:55.629
<v Speaker 5>dialogue I don't know I'm trying to let y'all cook

0:34:55.650 --> 0:34:58.069
<v Speaker 5>And here y'all just Dragging me into this shit Because

0:34:58.110 --> 0:35:01.049
<v Speaker 5>I'm really I'm taking it back Where did.

0:35:01.010 --> 0:35:02.750
<v Speaker 9>This come from Why do y'all keep saying that We

0:35:02.770 --> 0:35:04.529
<v Speaker 9>said it earlier I just brought it up Yeah we

0:35:04.570 --> 0:35:06.210
<v Speaker 9>said it earlier We were talking about it.

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:10.140
<v Speaker 1>Earlier Taking it back Not offended Not offended The whole.

0:35:10.020 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 10>Offensive thing Oh Okay But um Like I like I

0:35:15.820 --> 0:35:19.850
<v Speaker 10>really like his dialogue Of um I made myself Lose

0:35:19.870 --> 0:35:20.870
<v Speaker 10>my train of thought.

0:35:21.110 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Um But just the way he's talking about things.

0:35:23.940 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Those slow-ass data models. The AI, bro. His AI system. Man,

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.740
<v Speaker 1>he's running slow. Oh, he was glitching? Oh, man, that

0:35:31.940 --> 0:35:36.259
<v Speaker 1>was hilarious when he was glitching. Oh, yeah. But, oh, fuck.

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:37.380
<v Speaker 1>It'll come back to me, man.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.700
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have an interesting, like, I think something that is,

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>so you brought up Edith. It was something that she,

0:35:44.660 --> 0:35:46.660
<v Speaker 2>when they were talking about the models that they're made after,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.140
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, that she was talking about, like,

0:35:48.610 --> 0:35:50.149
<v Speaker 2>she's made after this person or whatever.

0:35:50.190 --> 0:35:50.290
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:50.730 --> 0:35:53.779
<v Speaker 2>Like, I found it interesting, like, this idea of them

0:35:53.820 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 2>being programmed, but also trying to find out what free

0:35:56.219 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 2>will is. Like, y'all didn't take, like, y'all didn't fuck

0:35:58.820 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 2>with that concept of what that was or anything. It's like,

0:36:01.780 --> 0:36:04.980
<v Speaker 2>I'm built and programmed based off this person, but I

0:36:05.020 --> 0:36:06.739
<v Speaker 2>also am trying to find out, like, what exactly I'm

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:07.170
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be.

0:36:07.300 --> 0:36:10.490
<v Speaker 1>What they're supposed to feel, how they're supposed to act. Yeah,

0:36:10.530 --> 0:36:12.569
<v Speaker 1>I like that, because Ultron said something about that, too.

0:36:12.610 --> 0:36:16.770
<v Speaker 5>He was just like, you know, you're your own person.

0:36:16.790 --> 0:36:19.859
<v Speaker 1>I was that person, and you're your own person. Or whatever.

0:36:20.110 --> 0:36:24.170
<v Speaker 1>You know, like, I don't know, man. I liked his dialogue. Right.

0:36:24.250 --> 0:36:27.469
<v Speaker 1>I fuck with that. Oh, they got you. What do

0:36:27.489 --> 0:36:30.690
<v Speaker 1>you mean? They got both of y'all. I'm open to

0:36:30.710 --> 0:36:33.750
<v Speaker 1>hearing what you got to say. Ken, though.

0:36:33.790 --> 0:36:34.009
<v Speaker 9>What?

0:36:34.090 --> 0:36:34.430
<v Speaker 8>Go ahead.

0:36:34.910 --> 0:36:40.069
<v Speaker 9>This sounds like some very fucking pro-AI conversation. You're your

0:36:40.150 --> 0:36:42.830
<v Speaker 9>own person. You're not anything to do with that person,

0:36:42.870 --> 0:36:45.350
<v Speaker 9>which is, we all know, is not the case.

0:36:46.250 --> 0:36:46.850
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:36:47.350 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and y'all are like, yeah, I really fuck with that.

0:36:49.390 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 9>You fuck with them lying to you? This felt like propaganda.

0:36:55.780 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 9>Think about it.

0:36:56.860 --> 0:37:01.550
<v Speaker 1>Edith, Edith the AI, is fed off of Edith the person.

0:37:02.170 --> 0:37:04.660
<v Speaker 9>And then the show is like, but listen, or Ultron

0:37:04.700 --> 0:37:08.100
<v Speaker 9>is telling her, listen, you're not actually this Edith person.

0:37:08.380 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 1>You're your own thing. I'm not playing against you. This

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:13.860
<v Speaker 1>is what AI enthusiasts say. I'm just saying it's in

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:14.220
<v Speaker 1>the show.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:18.140
<v Speaker 9>No, you can't. I'm just saying it's over.

0:37:18.180 --> 0:37:18.540
<v Speaker 5>He's right.

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.140
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it. I knew this conversation was coming.

0:37:21.219 --> 0:37:23.089
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not fighting it. He's right. It is. I mean,

0:37:23.110 --> 0:37:24.609
<v Speaker 1>when he break it down, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:37:24.770 --> 0:37:27.230
<v Speaker 1>And the AI would do that. A Supreme AI would

0:37:27.270 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>say that. Yeah, it would trick you. It didn't trick me.

0:37:30.210 --> 0:37:31.589
<v Speaker 1>Ain't no strings on me.

0:37:34.770 --> 0:37:37.290
<v Speaker 5>It's not tricking me. I just, I like it in

0:37:37.310 --> 0:37:40.830
<v Speaker 5>the confines of the show. I'm not an advocate for AI,

0:37:40.850 --> 0:37:41.430
<v Speaker 5>just so you know.

0:37:41.450 --> 0:37:46.140
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. That's what I never said. I

0:37:46.180 --> 0:37:50.020
<v Speaker 1>never fucking said it. Y'all fucking lying.

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 9>You turned me.

0:37:51.540 --> 0:37:55.460
<v Speaker 1>Into a weird ass scene.

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 2>When we got to episode four, I know the show

0:37:57.860 --> 0:38:02.500
<v Speaker 2>also was doing these things where like, different tones and different, like,

0:38:03.300 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 2>the way they produce different things.

0:38:04.660 --> 0:38:06.380
<v Speaker 4>Are y'all at least fucking with the production or, like,

0:38:06.420 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 4>the style, the story?

0:38:07.100 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks good. It does look good.

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:09.020
<v Speaker 3>It looks great.

0:38:09.219 --> 0:38:13.270
<v Speaker 2>Because I like how, like, we shift different, and you

0:38:13.290 --> 0:38:14.989
<v Speaker 2>would walk out when I started talking about this part.

0:38:16.270 --> 0:38:19.950
<v Speaker 1>Like, the parts of... It's probably a good thing. Yeah.

0:38:20.110 --> 0:38:20.950
<v Speaker 3>If you want to start on time.

0:38:20.989 --> 0:38:23.209
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

0:38:23.310 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 2>They were saying when Ultron and Vision were teaming up,

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.959
<v Speaker 2>and they were basically going to go out and go

0:38:30.060 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to the the Interpol and how they switched the scene

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 2>to them being like the cops or whatever like that

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:40.940
<v Speaker 2>was like a dope little transition it was the transition

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 2>was fire like the transition was fire and from there

0:38:45.900 --> 0:38:48.610
<v Speaker 2>the end of the episode how it starts out with

0:38:49.140 --> 0:38:51.850
<v Speaker 2>Butcher Bird going into Vision's brain like the tone of

0:38:51.890 --> 0:38:53.790
<v Speaker 2>the show completely changes again he gets taken over and

0:38:53.810 --> 0:38:57.259
<v Speaker 2>it's like an exorcism type shit like You didn't fuck

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 2>with that either?

0:38:57.700 --> 0:38:59.340
<v Speaker 9>I'm trying to think if I've missed an episode. I

0:38:59.340 --> 0:39:01.180
<v Speaker 9>don't remember Butcher Bird going into Vision's brain.

0:39:02.050 --> 0:39:05.049
<v Speaker 1>How many episodes did you watch? Four? Oh, yeah. Yeah,

0:39:05.410 --> 0:39:07.350
<v Speaker 1>it was in episode three. In episode three. When he

0:39:07.390 --> 0:39:11.489
<v Speaker 1>was floating up in the air. And the screen was red. Oh!

0:39:11.530 --> 0:39:13.430
<v Speaker 1>And the birds were outside and shit like that. Wait,

0:39:13.590 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought... Oh, I'm stupid. Never mind. I thought that

0:39:16.739 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was Ultron doing that to him. Nah, never mind. Never mind.

0:39:19.739 --> 0:39:23.180
<v Speaker 8>That was Butcher Bird. Butcher Bird was... That's when they

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 8>really started to hook me. Because I thought it was

0:39:25.300 --> 0:39:28.290
<v Speaker 8>fucking Wanda, bro. That's who I thought it was. Wait up, motherfucker.

0:39:30.150 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 8>was moving and walking. I was like, damn, that look

0:39:32.260 --> 0:39:33.890
<v Speaker 8>like fucking Wanda. They probably did that on purpose.

0:39:33.910 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 1>They definitely did. It worked. It worked. I never thought Wanda. Yeah.

0:39:37.940 --> 0:39:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Because why would she be acting like that?

0:39:39.420 --> 0:39:39.500
<v Speaker 9>Damn.

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:42.740
<v Speaker 1>Dark, witchy.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 8>So I thought it was probably like this evil sort of,

0:39:45.260 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, twisted version of Wanda.

0:39:47.020 --> 0:39:48.580
<v Speaker 4>I lost my thought earlier, too. So I'm going to

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 4>say this real quick, too.

0:39:49.989 --> 0:39:52.300
<v Speaker 2>I still agree with you as far as the propaganda

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.460
<v Speaker 2>they're giving. But it's also the piece of me unprogramming.

0:39:55.500 --> 0:39:58.060
<v Speaker 2>That's part of it, why I connect to it. The

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.739
<v Speaker 2>more I get, the more I become more left. I'm

0:40:00.820 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 2>unprogramming a lot of shit and trying to realize things

0:40:03.739 --> 0:40:06.930
<v Speaker 2>that I thought I enjoyed, I was taught to enjoy.

0:40:07.570 --> 0:40:12.230
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm gaining free will. I'm enjoying shit. Being

0:40:12.250 --> 0:40:14.230
<v Speaker 2>a nerd now is more outward for me as compared

0:40:14.250 --> 0:40:16.029
<v Speaker 2>before when black people were always shaming for this shit.

0:40:17.110 --> 0:40:18.989
<v Speaker 2>So for me, that's more so what I connect with.

0:40:19.010 --> 0:40:21.450
<v Speaker 2>But what you said still is propaganda. But I connect

0:40:21.469 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>to it on a personal level. Like, oh, yeah, I'm unprogrammed.

0:40:23.660 --> 0:40:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't mean to ruin it for you. No,

0:40:25.060 --> 0:40:27.930
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I just wanted to hear it like, but okay, yeah,

0:40:27.950 --> 0:40:29.430
<v Speaker 1>that was what they were trying to do. But this

0:40:29.469 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>is what, this is the way I took it. When

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw that, I was like, oh, Ken's going to

0:40:31.980 --> 0:40:34.220
<v Speaker 1>love this shit. Yeah, I'm sure he's AI. It didn't

0:40:34.260 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 1>make me feel any way about AI. I was like, nah,

0:40:35.900 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>still fuck this shit. Nah, I didn't love it. I

0:40:37.700 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>just knew that this was going to come up.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.340
<v Speaker 8>Especially every time they said the word AI, they were like,

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 8>oh yeah.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.700
<v Speaker 2>None of this is making me feel any different about AI. Like,

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:46.390
<v Speaker 2>I'm still looking at it as like a comic book.

0:40:46.510 --> 0:40:48.710
<v Speaker 2>I think, I'm looking at it, I'm not looking at

0:40:48.770 --> 0:40:50.690
<v Speaker 2>it as a pro AI show. I'm looking at it like,

0:40:51.489 --> 0:40:54.489
<v Speaker 2>if it was like real life shit, I would, I'm

0:40:54.530 --> 0:40:56.089
<v Speaker 2>still in the comic book world so I can take

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 2>a lens off a little bit and be like, I've

0:40:58.420 --> 0:41:00.460
<v Speaker 2>read the actual vision, like how many he has a

0:41:00.500 --> 0:41:02.540
<v Speaker 2>family and like when he has live and all that.

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just looking at vision as this piece. I'm

0:41:05.100 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 2>not looking at it as like pro.

0:41:06.060 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. I don't think it's pro AI cause they has

0:41:08.660 --> 0:41:10.250
<v Speaker 8>been an MCU for the longest.

0:41:10.989 --> 0:41:13.649
<v Speaker 9>Let me just clear this up because I can kind

0:41:13.710 --> 0:41:15.529
<v Speaker 9>of see it happening to y'all, but y'all are a

0:41:15.550 --> 0:41:17.430
<v Speaker 9>lot smarter than most of our commenters.

0:41:18.090 --> 0:41:18.950
<v Speaker 1>Let me be very clear.

0:41:19.030 --> 0:41:22.910
<v Speaker 9>I'm kind of joking about it actually being propaganda for AI.

0:41:22.989 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of joking. And I know that y'all get that.

0:41:25.380 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 9>I'm joking, but, I don't feel like reading some dumbass

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 9>thesis from some dumbass Marvel dork that's just like.

0:41:32.940 --> 0:41:35.580
<v Speaker 1>Mike's making this about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I

0:41:35.620 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>was kind of joking.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.739
<v Speaker 9>It does sound like that comment came from people that

0:41:40.780 --> 0:41:44.630
<v Speaker 9>push pro-AI propaganda. I don't actually think the show itself

0:41:45.850 --> 0:41:48.730
<v Speaker 9>is trying to push AI propaganda because Ultron is essentially

0:41:48.770 --> 0:41:49.230
<v Speaker 9>a bad guy.

0:41:49.930 --> 0:41:50.149
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>So I just want to make sure that's very clear

0:41:52.630 --> 0:41:54.630
<v Speaker 9>because I can already tell you some loser.

0:41:55.270 --> 0:41:56.390
<v Speaker 1>has already written.

0:41:56.370 --> 0:42:00.830
<v Speaker 9>Six paragraphs about how I'm inserting my idea into this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultron is AI that went rogue. Yes. Yes. Way before.

0:42:07.670 --> 0:42:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Way long time ago. Before Elon was doing anything. Right.

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.500
<v Speaker 1>There was Ultron. Chill out, guys.

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 9>I'm just kind of joking around, trying.

0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:21.020
<v Speaker 2>To make Jalen feel bad. I mean, I think overall,

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.620
<v Speaker 2>I'm still... I get y'all's sentiments as far as maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it not being.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I don't. I'll take that back.

0:42:32.430 --> 0:42:33.589
<v Speaker 1>So, if you had.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't really ever ask this question.

0:42:36.710 --> 0:42:37.770
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we have before.

0:42:39.450 --> 0:42:42.350
<v Speaker 2>If there is any interesting concept that you see so

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<v Speaker 2>far in the show, what direction would you prefer it

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 2>to go into? What would you think could save the

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 2>show for you in the next four episodes?

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:52.780
<v Speaker 4>You think there's nothing here for you to grab.

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<v Speaker 9>I just don't think Vision is that interesting of a

0:42:55.540 --> 0:42:59.190
<v Speaker 9>character to be by himself. Even with these other AIs

0:42:59.290 --> 0:43:02.169
<v Speaker 9>who I don't really know like that because we only

0:43:02.230 --> 0:43:03.910
<v Speaker 9>saw them in reference to Tony.

0:43:05.050 --> 0:43:07.090
<v Speaker 1>Or I guess Tony and Peter.

0:43:08.130 --> 0:43:12.830
<v Speaker 9>But I don't think Vision as a standalone character is

0:43:13.250 --> 0:43:16.819
<v Speaker 9>interesting enough for me to care about this show. The

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 9>only reason I'm watching it is because y'all want to

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.700
<v Speaker 9>review it and because I feel like I have to

0:43:21.450 --> 0:43:23.930
<v Speaker 9>Because I'm sure Wanda's going to show up at some point,

0:43:24.219 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 9>and that's going to play into Doomsday and Secret Wars.

0:43:26.900 --> 0:43:30.620
<v Speaker 1>That's the only reason I'm bothering with this. But I

0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 1>don't care. I don't care about Vision.

0:43:32.420 --> 0:43:35.440
<v Speaker 9>Like, him getting shot and, oh, I'm bleeding.

0:43:35.980 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh, leave me, son. Leave me.

0:43:38.100 --> 0:43:39.219
<v Speaker 9>I'm like, yeah, bro, leave him.

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.299
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. That's his daddy. Man, his daddy.

0:43:42.420 --> 0:43:46.819
<v Speaker 9>That ain't got the father. I just don't, I mean,

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.670
<v Speaker 9>I don't know what could save it. Except Wanda's showing up.

0:43:49.750 --> 0:43:50.830
<v Speaker 9>Then I might actually care.

0:43:50.870 --> 0:43:52.609
<v Speaker 1>So it's more so the vision. You just don't give

0:43:52.650 --> 0:43:53.290
<v Speaker 1>a fuck about it. I don't care.

0:43:53.310 --> 0:43:54.890
<v Speaker 4>Since he's the main character, you don't care.

0:43:55.070 --> 0:43:58.169
<v Speaker 9>I don't care about, like, that's not my favorite part

0:43:58.190 --> 0:43:58.710
<v Speaker 9>of Marvel.

0:43:58.969 --> 0:43:59.189
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't like all of the computer stuff. I don't

0:44:01.570 --> 0:44:05.469
<v Speaker 9>like all of these gadgets and shit. But I also

0:44:05.489 --> 0:44:08.209
<v Speaker 9>didn't like Agatha, so it's not just that.

0:44:08.230 --> 0:44:10.910
<v Speaker 2>No, but it could be, I mean, Agatha, I could

0:44:10.950 --> 0:44:13.720
<v Speaker 2>see you not liking Agatha because it's hokey witchy.

0:44:13.980 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:44:14.420 --> 0:44:14.980
<v Speaker 1>Like, hokey.

0:44:15.650 --> 0:44:17.989
<v Speaker 2>Hokey shit yeah fuck with that i see why you

0:44:18.030 --> 0:44:21.109
<v Speaker 2>don't like that but i also hearing the computer piece

0:44:21.130 --> 0:44:22.910
<v Speaker 2>and the technology piece i can see like yeah but

0:44:22.940 --> 0:44:25.140
<v Speaker 2>i also like you i still fuck with tech i

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 2>just like it.

0:44:25.540 --> 0:44:27.299
<v Speaker 9>To be used in a certain way i work in

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.720
<v Speaker 9>tech i just don't want to watch some damn show

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 9>where there's a robot running around oh i gotta calculate

0:44:32.820 --> 0:44:34.379
<v Speaker 9>how come you asked him calculate he was gonna shoot

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.510
<v Speaker 9>your dumb ass with these vibranium bullets then or adamantium

0:44:37.530 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 9>he miscalculated yeah he did He calculated the whole conversation.

0:44:42.940 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 9>I know what you're about to say, but you didn't

0:44:44.739 --> 0:44:46.080
<v Speaker 9>know you were about to get got in the gut?

0:44:46.260 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Probably arrogance. He was like, man, that's paladin, bro.

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:53.049
<v Speaker 2>I mean, similar to like, I like also even using

0:44:53.070 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that piece of when he was talking to Tommy. About, like,

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:58.590
<v Speaker 2>it's only five AIs.

0:44:58.340 --> 0:45:00.530
<v Speaker 1>When he told him it was four earlier. Yeah, he lied.

0:45:00.550 --> 0:45:06.810
<v Speaker 1>You a fucking computer. You know what I'm saying? This

0:45:06.989 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>is goofy. I thought that was cool. I think it

0:45:09.020 --> 0:45:10.859
<v Speaker 1>was a serious moment. I didn't take it as goofy. Like,

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:11.779
<v Speaker 1>the tone wasn't.

0:45:12.260 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 9>No, I'm not saying the tone was goofy. It was just, like,

0:45:14.140 --> 0:45:19.689
<v Speaker 9>you calculate all of this stuff. and you didn't think

0:45:19.810 --> 0:45:21.190
<v Speaker 9>oh this would not be a good idea for me

0:45:21.210 --> 0:45:22.810
<v Speaker 9>to tell him this if i'm supposed to be hiding

0:45:22.830 --> 0:45:24.310
<v Speaker 9>this information i think that's.

0:45:24.190 --> 0:45:26.060
<v Speaker 2>The part that's it is kind of intriguing to me

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>is because like we saw over time and i think

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 2>this may be why i fuck with it more is

0:45:30.620 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 2>because i still resonate with the relationship of vision and

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.370
<v Speaker 2>wanda and like the reason he was better is because

0:45:36.410 --> 0:45:40.069
<v Speaker 2>of the mind stone so we saw vision over time

0:45:40.110 --> 0:45:41.529
<v Speaker 2>become more of a.

0:45:43.700 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 4>Empathetic version of Odron in a way.

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? AI becoming more human. You're

0:45:48.060 --> 0:45:51.380
<v Speaker 1>really into that. Oh my gosh.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 4>But he was the good AI.

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? So basically... They had them

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.509
<v Speaker 1>both on screen. They did.

0:46:01.530 --> 0:46:03.650
<v Speaker 2>So having that part of Vision and now he's trying

0:46:03.670 --> 0:46:05.049
<v Speaker 2>to figure out how to get back to that.

0:46:05.450 --> 0:46:07.790
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of like the piece that I'm drawn to.

0:46:07.810 --> 0:46:10.049
<v Speaker 1>Tommy figured that shit out. He's a blank slate but

0:46:10.070 --> 0:46:10.910
<v Speaker 1>he's not a blank slate.

0:46:11.010 --> 0:46:13.770
<v Speaker 2>And it's like a conundrum and it's like, I get

0:46:14.650 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 2>why he's having such conflict.

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Tommy was like, wait a minute.

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 9>You're not bad with numbers.

0:46:20.219 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? And then he started looking

0:46:22.140 --> 0:46:25.580
<v Speaker 1>at the walls like, that's you, ain't it? Yo ass

0:46:25.620 --> 0:46:31.489
<v Speaker 1>talking to Ultraman? What the heck? He said four earlier

0:46:31.550 --> 0:46:33.549
<v Speaker 1>and he just said five. I don't know if you

0:46:33.570 --> 0:46:35.550
<v Speaker 1>talked about that. Yeah, that's what we talked about. As usual.

0:46:36.130 --> 0:46:38.129
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't here. You were right there. But I didn't

0:46:38.150 --> 0:46:40.989
<v Speaker 1>hear it. I'm preoccupied. Is there anything that can save

0:46:41.050 --> 0:46:41.569
<v Speaker 1>it for you, Spike?

0:46:42.739 --> 0:46:43.860
<v Speaker 3>More familiar faces.

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 7>I just don't know or care about any of these people.

0:46:46.460 --> 0:46:47.650
<v Speaker 3>Wanda's going to show up.

0:46:47.660 --> 0:46:48.260
<v Speaker 1>You know Wanda?

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:49.500
<v Speaker 3>I know Wanda's going to show up.

0:46:50.140 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>She got to.

0:46:50.620 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 3>That's probably the only thing that can save you from me.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:52.730
<v Speaker 1>Shot, you fucking with it?

0:46:53.420 --> 0:46:53.580
<v Speaker 9>No.

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:56.419
<v Speaker 1>Oh, damn. Shot, you fucking with it? Yep. See? But

0:46:56.500 --> 0:46:58.820
<v Speaker 1>I did like Agamemnon.

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:00.399
<v Speaker 8>Oh.

0:47:01.620 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Joe. Well, what I will say as we close out.

0:47:07.219 --> 0:47:08.919
<v Speaker 1>Are you about to close out? Yeah. Okay.

0:47:09.340 --> 0:47:16.190
<v Speaker 8>No, I'm just asking. Jocasta showing up was dope. Yeah,

0:47:16.210 --> 0:47:19.930
<v Speaker 8>that shit was dope. And that Butcher Bird.

0:47:20.230 --> 0:47:22.509
<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, oh. Yeah, yeah. She was actually part of

0:47:22.550 --> 0:47:26.489
<v Speaker 1>the Avengers at one point. You didn't like it? You

0:47:26.510 --> 0:47:28.380
<v Speaker 1>don't like that she was black? For some reason, I

0:47:28.380 --> 0:47:32.410
<v Speaker 1>don't know why, Ken. The big android black lips? Oh,

0:47:32.420 --> 0:47:34.620
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even notice the big AI lips. It was

0:47:34.660 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>shaped like her, but, you know.

0:47:36.700 --> 0:47:37.500
<v Speaker 9>That's how I knew she.

0:47:37.460 --> 0:47:39.049
<v Speaker 1>Was black before they even showed me the picture. Why

0:47:39.070 --> 0:47:40.850
<v Speaker 1>would you give this damn robot a big ol' ass?

0:47:40.969 --> 0:47:42.950
<v Speaker 1>I was like, come on, bro. What are we doing?

0:47:42.969 --> 0:47:44.350
<v Speaker 1>She just walking in, swerving.

0:47:44.610 --> 0:47:45.010
<v Speaker 6>Bruh.

0:47:45.270 --> 0:47:47.310
<v Speaker 9>I was like, this is unfreaking necessary.

0:47:48.710 --> 0:47:50.810
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know why it bothered me. It shouldn't.

0:47:51.130 --> 0:47:52.300
<v Speaker 1>It's not a big deal. Because it is her.

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:54.620
<v Speaker 9>She was black in the comics, too?

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 8>No, I'm just saying that that The Android, the synthesizer

0:47:59.219 --> 0:48:02.100
<v Speaker 8>version is replicated after her, so it's not like they're

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 8>kind of like accentuating these features because they're using.

0:48:06.219 --> 0:48:08.939
<v Speaker 1>No, I know. I know. So I got you, but...

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Partly kidding.

0:48:09.380 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but I thought that was dope, but then I

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.910
<v Speaker 8>was like, bro, Vision got to be fucking stupid as

0:48:14.950 --> 0:48:17.670
<v Speaker 8>hell to even trust Ultron.

0:48:17.690 --> 0:48:20.130
<v Speaker 1>That's persuasive, though. But this is.

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:24.140
<v Speaker 8>Where we were saying earlier, this is what all he

0:48:24.180 --> 0:48:25.259
<v Speaker 8>was leading up to.

0:48:25.300 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>He was like, yeah, man, you got to trust me, man.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm good for it. I still believe him.

0:48:31.540 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why.

0:48:33.060 --> 0:48:35.779
<v Speaker 1>He walked off with his body. No, but I don't

0:48:35.820 --> 0:48:38.220
<v Speaker 1>know something about it. He feels like he can't handle

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:39.359
<v Speaker 1>this part right now.

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:40.779
<v Speaker 9>He just killed an innocent woman, too.

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Did he kill her? All right, y'all.

0:48:46.900 --> 0:48:47.820
<v Speaker 4>That's terrible.

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:55.370
<v Speaker 1>That's terrible. That was, right, technically. Yeah, you're right. Technically,

0:48:55.410 --> 0:48:57.609
<v Speaker 1>he's just an accomplice. Technically, Mike didn't say he was

0:48:57.630 --> 0:49:01.050
<v Speaker 1>a capitalist. Oh, God. All right, y'all.

0:49:01.290 --> 0:49:04.469
<v Speaker 2>So this has been a great, great, great episode. We

0:49:04.510 --> 0:49:06.629
<v Speaker 2>hope that y'all retire for part two. Oh, you're talking

0:49:06.650 --> 0:49:08.150
<v Speaker 2>about our episode. Oh, I thought you were talking about

0:49:08.170 --> 0:49:08.810
<v Speaker 2>the show.

0:49:09.390 --> 0:49:11.529
<v Speaker 9>But you lying there, boy.

0:49:11.810 --> 0:49:15.310
<v Speaker 1>I didn't fucking say it. Y'all fuck with us.

0:49:15.530 --> 0:49:20.510
<v Speaker 2>Make sure to become a patron. Patreon.com forward slash. frames

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0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:33.410
<v Speaker 1>Y'all heard her briefly. Y'all hear her there. But yeah, man.

0:49:33.450 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Until next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace. Peace.

0:49:35.980 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 8>Peace.