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Speaker 1: Things seem to be getting a little crazy at the

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Speaker 1: it with Niki Kelly from Indiana Capitol Chronicle.

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Speaker 2: We talked briefly yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Nikki, I asked you, what is the big story going

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Speaker 1: on at the State House and what did you say?

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Speaker 3: I said, the Chicago Bears. Yeah. So it's definitely the

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Speaker 3: sleeper issue of this session. And today we're going to

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Speaker 3: I think, get some more information about more details in

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Speaker 3: hearing that the Bears might be winnowing down their interest

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Speaker 3: in possible Indiana locations. Nothing firm yet, but some movement.

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Speaker 2: So I thought this issue was dead. They had moved on.

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Speaker 2: They said, now we're going to stay in Illinois.

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Speaker 1: But there are some committee meetings that are happening not

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Speaker 1: only in Indiana but also in Illinois, and that's happening today, correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, houseway the means here in Indiana is a meeting

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Speaker 3: and then there's also a committee meeting meeting about the

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Speaker 3: because you know Indiana lawmakers are out after next week,

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Speaker 3: and they've made clear like if we don't get this

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Speaker 4: Now, Nikki, It's literally just happened in the last few minutes,

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Speaker 4: So I apologize if you haven't heard about it or

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Speaker 4: ABC seven in Chicago is reporting that the committee meeting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's some interesting tea you got. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'd saying something, We've got a meeting they don't. Maybe

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Speaker 2: our lawmakers know that this is a done deal. Huh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, House Speaker Houston and Senator Mischler are also going

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's turn our attention to the ICE detainee who

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Speaker 3: When we did a story in December, we reached out

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Speaker 1: Frankly, Representative Carson, he put out a tweet yesterday and

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering has there been any response to what he

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering, has there been any timeline or has anybody.

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Speaker 1: Has anything been offered about the release of any findings.

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Speaker 3: No Ice just said that it's under investigation. I'm when

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Speaker 3: I reach out to Indiana Department of Correction, they referred

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Speaker 1: Coming up next week, I believe you mentioned that you're

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Speaker 2: You want to tell us about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll run Friday morning. I just I have never

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I have to guess that they're going to go

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Speaker 4: Nikki, Obviously, this is something that everybody in the whole

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone is dealing with the same exact thing. There

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Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly's joining us from Indiana Capitol Chronicle, and we

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Speaker 1: have to talk about how Republicans have revived the push

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Speaker 1: to shorten Indiana's early voting period. Get in some pushback

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Speaker 1: because they really didn't dedicate any time to public hearing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know that's the thing. They even if

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Speaker 4: Nikki, it seems like we've got this issue every single

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Speaker 5: Don't like it, tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think part of it is when

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Speaker 2: Okay, one last topic.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the township merger plan and that could

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Speaker 1: be advancing under this compromise bill. Were there any specific

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Speaker 3: There are, and I think that's why it's going to

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Speaker 3: they're going to look at very specific things. Are you

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Speaker 4: Hey, Nikki, my sense and I could be wrong about this.

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Speaker 4: Will feel free to correct me, but my senses. In

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Speaker 3: Well, I think township they do like this point system.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's probably a little bit of seeing

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Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of if you can't beat them, join them.

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Speaker 4: And sounds like they kind of figured out that that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they haven't really given any of those out. They've

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you've got a busy day ahead

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Speaker 1: of you and you're going to be I'm assuming reporting

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Speaker 3: Yes, it'll be right up there for us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. That's Nicki Kelly.

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Speaker 1: You can find her over at Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com.

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Speaker 2: Never before has wolf Blake.

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Speaker 1: And Hammond been called a promising site until now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So we just had a little discussion about it with

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Speaker 4: So this is the The committee vote was twenty four

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Speaker 4: to nothing, so it passed in support of creating this

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Speaker 4: which I find fascinating because that means both Democrats and

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Speaker 4: out with a statement immediately following the committee meeting this morning.

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Speaker 4: They talked about they're committed to finishing the remaining site

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Speaker 4: specifics necessary due diligence to support their vision to build

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Speaker 4: They gave thanks to Governor Brawn and Houston and Senator Mitchler.

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Speaker 4: What I thought was one of the more interesting parts

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Speaker 4: is the last sentence of the Bear statement was we

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Speaker 2: So they're talking about a partnership with the state of India.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not aware of any other partnership that exists

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Speaker 4: Speaker Houston also put out a statement said that they

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Speaker 2: The Bear said they're going to put in two billion.

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Speaker 5: The Bears are putting in two billion dollars.

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Speaker 4: And again, what this bill is is the specifics on

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Speaker 1: So Governor Brown said that we have built a strong

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So I've been following this pretty closely for the

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Speaker 4: And what I'm seeing out of the Chicago news media

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Speaker 4: ABC seven in Chicago reported that this morning, the Illinois

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Speaker 1: So this bill has already passed the Indiana Senate, cleared

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Speaker 2: Joining us in the studio right now, we have.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, good morning. I'm glad you could spend

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Speaker 1: You put out an article yesterday and in a partnering

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Speaker 2: So I think we need to talk about this.

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Speaker 1: This is in regard cards to a grocery store note

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Speaker 1: scam that's going on in Central Indiana. So what people

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Speaker 1: they need help because they're trying to buy groceries for.

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Speaker 2: People to need.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so the notes are actually they come in a

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Speaker 6: like just about any grocery store in Central Indiana. Because

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this.

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Speaker 1: Isn't just one specific grocery store or specific neighborhood.

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Speaker 6: From what I'm hearing it everywhere. It is in Greenwood,

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Speaker 6: it is an Avon Carmel, Noblesville, Fishers all over the place,

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Speaker 6: and then Kroger or Kroger aldi Meyer everywhere target.

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Speaker 1: And she's using some psychological tactics, your persuasion methods, absolutely

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, use empathy like help me.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 6: And obviously when you see somebody and they're struggling, you

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Speaker 6: But then you know, they get put in these positions

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Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, you know, it's not just

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Speaker 6: And then she grabs the groceries really quick, she hands

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Speaker 2: So she's asking for money, not just groceries, She's asking

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh okay, Now are there any law enforcement agencies

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Speaker 2: So from me, do we have any leads?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So from what I hear is that, you know, some

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Speaker 6: they'll tell them like, you can't be here, you're trespassing.

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Speaker 6: But that's as far as the extent goes, because really

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Speaker 6: here's the money I'm paying for your groceries for you,

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Speaker 6: it's like you're willingly doing it, right.

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Speaker 4: It's probably tough because the crime isn't committed exactly till

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Speaker 4: there's that exchange of money and.

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Speaker 5: She runs off and yeah, so somebody, she just give me.

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Speaker 4: Right, there's no crime necessarily in the solicitation erect you got,

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Speaker 4: and then by the time the crime happens, it's too

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Speaker 6: Be okay, yeah, and she's already done a couple of rounds,

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Speaker 6: and then she'll go ahead and go to another grocery store.

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Speaker 6: And I don't and we don't know if this is

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Speaker 6: But it seems like this has been white spread and

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Speaker 1: So even if they catch the perpetrators, prosecution chances probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it's good at all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, are there any copycat operations?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I believe so, yes.

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Speaker 6: I mean I would imagine there's tons of people still

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Speaker 2: Okay, so awareness is probably going to put it stuff

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Speaker 2: absolutely in awareness.

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Speaker 6: Just walk away, turn around, don't engage in a conversation.

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Speaker 6: I have had a couple people comment and said when

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Speaker 6: you really know. Okay, they really are trying to scamp

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Speaker 6: me here. Why would they say that shopping.

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Speaker 2: For groceries is such a pleasant experience.

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Speaker 1: Now highway with the cost of everything, now you want

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to go to a store.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that this is coming across in handwritten

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Speaker 6: And they're just they're just looking for people that I

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Speaker 1: Opportunistic targeting is exactly.

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Speaker 4: And if I'm a if I'm in the grocery store

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Speaker 4: there's really not much I can do other than, like

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Speaker 6: And so some people have gone to store management and

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Speaker 6: No, they're They're just everybody, young, old, people who have

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Speaker 1: That person who is doing this really should just go

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you for bringing light to story. We're

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Speaker 6: So right now I'm actually putting together I've been doing

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Speaker 1: Well, you are doing good work bringing light to a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, keep it up, John at.

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Speaker 1: Cruise from the WIBC newsroom and you are listening to

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Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC. Americans are really really behind on savings

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Speaker 1: you can blame it on Wall Street, but you do

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Speaker 1: institute some smart saving habits. I understand it's hard to

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Speaker 1: little bit helps. According to Larry Fink, who is the

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Speaker 2: A lot of the steering wheel.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what do you got?

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Speaker 2: Two million dollars is what you.

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Speaker 5: Need in retirement savings?

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Speaker 2: Yes? In retirement savings?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, you got to take this with a

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Speaker 2: Well, it's what he does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's what he does.

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Speaker 4: And look, his company, black Rock would certainly benefit dramatically

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Speaker 4: you know, throughout people's lives, it's not good. And again,

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00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 4: the median average, even for people in their fifties is

445
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 4: still around one hundred thousand dollars. Now, that's not nearly enough.

446
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 4: But I think that you know, in retirement. You know

447
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people, you know, hey, if you're living

448
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 4: in California, if you're living in Illinois, New Jersey, New York, Okay, yeah,

449
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: then maybe two million dollars is what you need for

450
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 4: retirement because you live in these massively, these these areas

451
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 4: that have this huge cost of living. But there are

452
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 4: a lot of cheaper areas that you can live at

453
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: across the whole country. And I think that may be

454
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Speaker 4: something that we're looking at here for the next twenty

455
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: or thirty years where instead of you know, retiring the

456
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 4: dream to retire in Florida or sunny southern California or

457
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 4: something like that, people start looking at maybe lower cost

458
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 4: of living states like Oklahoma and Arkansas and Indiana and

459
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 4: Alabama places. You know, a lot of those are still

460
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: warm states but have a dramatically lower cost of living.

461
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Speaker 1: So he says that sixty two percent of Americans have

462
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: saved less than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which

463
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: is only about seven percent of the target amount.

464
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Speaker 2: But the key point to me in.

465
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Speaker 1: His statement that most Americans aren't close to having enough

466
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: savings to retire comfortably is the word comfortably and that's

467
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Speaker 1: going to vary from person to person.

468
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: Coupled to couple, family to family.

469
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Speaker 1: What's comfortable for one person may not be comfortable enough

470
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Speaker 1: for somebody else.

471
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're working, and you know you and

472
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Speaker 4: your spouse both work and you make a good income,

473
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Speaker 4: you got a high household income that you've gotten, maybe

474
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Speaker 4: you can take two or three vacations a year, and

475
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 4: you get new cars for both of you every two years,

476
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Speaker 4: and you can pay for your kids college educations, and

477
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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you haven't saved anything for retirement. Yeah,

478
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 4: those vacations and those new cars that may have made

479
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 4: you comfortable, but if you don't have those retirement savings,

480
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 4: a lifestyle change could be necessary as part of.

481
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Speaker 5: This as well.

482
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Speaker 1: He's also warning that the problem gets worse for generations

483
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Speaker 1: like Gen X and millennials and especially Gen Z who

484
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Speaker 1: rely on four to oh one k's, but they're not

485
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: putting enough money into it. Something that happened here when

486
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: I first started working for Urban one, they automatically.

487
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 2: Sign you up for a four oh one K. You

488
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Speaker 2: have to go out of your way.

489
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Speaker 1: To decline being signed up for something I didn't know

490
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Speaker 1: about until I was like wait, what's going on here?

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that was a change in the law several

492
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Speaker 4: years ago that they allowed employers to do that, and

493
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Speaker 4: so there have been some tweaks to the laws that

494
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: kind of default you.

495
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Speaker 5: Into four oh one K retirement accounts.

496
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Speaker 4: Keep in mind, too, most people that have worked their

497
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 4: whole careers have paid into social Security. And I know

498
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 4: that there's this this boogeyman out there that says, oh,

499
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: social Security trust funds running out of money, and social

500
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 4: Security won't be there when I retire. It's highly unlikely.

501
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 4: And the reason is is that old people vote. But

502
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: that's true, That's absolutely true. And it reminds me of

503
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 4: the classic Rush Limbaugh line. When he talked about social Security.

504
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Speaker 4: He always mentioned. Rush would say social Security is just

505
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 4: welfare for old people because people think that, oh, I

506
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 4: pay all this money into this account, I should get

507
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: it back, and yeah, you likely will. The downside of

508
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: social security is, hey, if you're in your fifties or

509
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: early sixties and you pass away before claiming social Security, yeah,

510
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: the government takes all that money that you that you

511
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 4: gave to them. But if you wait until full retirement age,

512
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 4: most people's average social Security payments are about three thousand

513
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 4: dollars a month. If you've got a spouse that's similar,

514
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 4: you're looking at about it six thousand dollars a month

515
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 4: between the two of you in household income after you

516
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: retire at full retirement age from social Security alone. And

517
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 4: again I think it's just it's scare tactics that people

518
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 4: think social Security won't be there when they retire. Congress

519
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: is never going to let that happen. They know that

520
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 4: older people are the single most reliable voting block out

521
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: of anybody, and there's still strong support for social security

522
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: in this country.

523
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Speaker 5: Now they may have to make some changes to it.

524
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's the thing we've been hearing for decades.

525
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: Social Security is going broke. But the truth is it's

526
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: headed towards a fundation gap. And there was a new

527
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: article that came out and most people were hearing different

528
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: years of when it was going to run out of money.

529
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: And now the new year has been put out and

530
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Speaker 1: it's not twenty thirty six anymore, it's twenty thirty three.

531
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Speaker 2: We're talking seven eight years from now.

532
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's this idea that the money that people pay

533
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 4: into Social Security is like put aside in this separate

534
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: fund that the government can't touch. Yeah, at the end

535
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 4: of the day, it's all co mingling of money. They

536
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 4: just take all of our money, whether it's income taxes,

537
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 4: pot or social security taxes, and it all goes into

538
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 4: one fund. Now that on the books they show social

539
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 4: security as being separate. But there are a couple of

540
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 4: things that can be done. I think there's been a

541
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: lot of talker raising the retirement age, and again that

542
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 4: happened last in the eighties. And this wasn't some sort

543
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 4: of shocker that if you're, you know, sixty six years

544
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 4: old and you're looking to take full retirement and social

545
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: security at sixty seven, and then they pass some law

546
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: and you've got to wait till seventy. No, the Congress

547
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 4: and the President graduated that in and slowly increase the

548
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 4: age as time went on, So something that took twenty

549
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 4: or thirty years to take effect. Here's the other big

550
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 4: thing too, is that there's a cap on social security taxes,

551
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: so you pay social Security up into I think for

552
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 4: this year, one hundred and eighty five thousand dollars of earnings,

553
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: So everybody in the country, if you make up to

554
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty five thousand dollars a year, you

555
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 4: pay Social Security on that, but if you make more

556
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: than one hundred and eighty five thousand dollars a year,

557
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: anything above that one eighty five, there's no Social Security

558
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 4: taxes on that. So, you know, I think this is

559
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: probably going to end up where we've got a combination

560
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: of things where they raise that cap of one eighty

561
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: five to just make it any income that you bring in,

562
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 4: and then probably what's likely going to happen is they're

563
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 4: are going to bump up the Social Security retirement ages

564
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: as well, because you can take early retirement now at sixty.

565
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Two, sixty two and a half at sixty.

566
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Speaker 4: Two and a half, you can take full retirement at

567
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 4: sixty seven and a half, and then your benefits max

568
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 4: out once you reach seventy. So if you're still working

569
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 4: past the age of seventy, you're not really getting yourself

570
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: any extra money that you'll get once you finally ultimately

571
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 4: take Social Security.

572
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Well, you do hear a.

573
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Lot of people acting like it's just going to magically

574
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: keep paying out forever, and that's not reality because there's

575
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: the math. You've got more retirees and fewer workers, and

576
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: you've got these large demographic blocks. Gen X is a

577
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: smaller demographic group than both the boomers and the millennials.

578
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: Right, so once Gen X becomes the primary generation that's

579
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 4: dragging and taking social Security, it's actually gonna be a

580
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: good thing because you've got this huge block of working

581
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: millennials that are paying into the system. But I can't

582
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: imagine any scenario where social Security just goes away in

583
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: this country.

584
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 5: For starters, we.

585
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: Got politicians that love nothing more than to spend your

586
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: money and oh, hey we're out of money. That's fine,

587
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: we'll just print more money. Just print more money, It's fine.

588
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: And if ever social Security gets into a situation like that,

589
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 4: of course, the politicians are just going to find a

590
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: way either print more money or find it somewhere else,

591
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 4: and they're going to continue to well, they are.

592
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: Going to have to make some hard choices, whether that's

593
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: tax reformers, some sort of adjustment two benefits, something is

594
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: going to have to happen.

595
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: Certainly, I think that that's what we're all looking forward to.

596
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: And look, look, every individual has a lot of responsibility

597
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 4: for this too.

598
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: If you're planning on living your entire.

599
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: Retirement years with just Social Security income, that's going to

600
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: be really tough for a lot of people. So we

601
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: all do have a lot of personal responsibility in this

602
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: to save for retirement, whether that's through your four oh

603
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 4: one K or if you're a government employee they offer

604
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: different funding mechanisms or just investing on your own outside

605
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: of specific retirement accounts.

606
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: You can't wait for the government just to save you. No, Yeah,

607
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: it's you know, that's why the.

608
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Trump accounts is very popular because that is a mechanism

609
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: for parents to help their children push off that wall

610
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: and get a good start.

611
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

612
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: And we did this for our daughter when she got

613
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: her first job in high school. We opened up a

614
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: roth Ira account for her because you can't contribute to

615
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 4: a roth Ira unless you have income. But as soon

616
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: as she started working a part time high school job

617
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: and started making some money, yeah, get starting making the

618
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: money exactly, And so we opened up a rough Ira

619
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: for her so that she could start contributing to it.

620
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: Because that compounding interest over time is what's going to

621
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Speaker 4: get you the most money over the long term.

622
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

623
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Speaker 1: Now you also have home prices that are continuing to rise,

624
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Speaker 1: and you've got Donald Trump who said that he's, uh,

625
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: he's okay with that he wants to keep the price

626
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: of housing high for the boomers.

627
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: Or on housing, you talked in your address last night

628
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: about housing.

629
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Speaker 5: Are you still considering a national emergency over housing? I'm

630
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 5: looking what that you know.

631
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Speaker 7: I have to this two thoughts on housing. You have

632
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 7: a lot of people have housing that because we have

633
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 7: such a strong time and such a strong market there,

634
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 7: houses are very valuable. It's a big part of their

635
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 7: net worth their house. I don't want to knock those

636
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 7: numbers down because I want them to continue to have

637
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 7: a big value for theirs. At the same time, I

638
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 7: want to make it possible for young people out there

639
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 7: and other people to buy housing. In a way they're

640
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 7: at conflict. In other words, you create a lot of

641
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 7: housing all of a sudden that it drives the housing prices,

642
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 7: don it. So I want to take care of the

643
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 7: people that have houses that have a value to the

644
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 7: house that they never thought possible, that have sort of

645
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 7: made them wealthy and happy, and you know, especially in

646
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 7: their later years, got to be careful with that.

647
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: I want to keep them up.

648
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 7: At the same time, I want to make it possible

649
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 7: for people to go buy houses.

650
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: Now you had mentioned something about this, and I think

651
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: it's really interesting because now you've got more buyers who

652
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: are considering a lower cost region in the Midwest, in

653
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: the South, not these high cost big coastal markets like California,

654
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: like Florida. A new report came out and it said

655
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: some of these smaller or mid size markets are seeing

656
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: double digit price increases because people are starting to pay

657
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: attention to smaller markets that aren't on.

658
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: The beach in Florida.

659
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: And I've got a list of some of these cities

660
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: that home prices are growing exponentially because of retirees picking

661
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: different cities.

662
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: Cape Girardo, Missouri is one of them.

663
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you never hear that's a city mentioned in the news,

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Speaker 4: or like an area of the country where real estate

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Speaker 4: is increasing dramatically.

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Speaker 2: Cumberland, Maryland.

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Speaker 1: It is another one we just drove through the the

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Speaker 1: other day, beautiful part of the country, Owensboro, Kentucky, and

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Speaker 1: parts of Alabama. People are looking at other markets just

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, but that is being reflected in those

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Speaker 1: areas those prices now starting to increase.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not just big cities.

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Speaker 4: And we saw this during the pandemic when people from

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Speaker 4: California were fleeing California and going to places like Idaho. Look,

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Speaker 4: the biggest city in Idaho is Boise, not that big

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Speaker 4: of a town, but they were seeing these massive home

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Speaker 4: price increases as people were coming from high cost to

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Speaker 4: living states like California and moving into Idaho. And I

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Speaker 4: think that's going to be a trend that continues over

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Speaker 4: time because the housing. Everybody's been talking it since the

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Speaker 4: housing prices went crazy in twenty twenty one and twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two.

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Speaker 5: There's been a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Chatter about Wow, I'm just gonna sit back on the

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Speaker 4: sidelines and wait for this bubble to burst.

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Speaker 5: Wait for that bubble to burst.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't see the mechanisms in place

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Speaker 4: to where you're gonna see this massive how a price

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Speaker 4: crash in housing prices and just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've got a grandma and a hockey player with

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Speaker 1: the best audio of the day that's.

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Speaker 2: Coming out from ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 4: I'm playing to use.

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Speaker 5: We've played three and a half minutes and overtime.

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Speaker 2: Well, you sit.

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Speaker 5: With us over time, Let's see how the divined states,

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Speaker 5: Oh that pace slow.

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Speaker 2: End up seving what's play when it mattered most.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of gritty Resilian win Americans love. When

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Speaker 1: the game was slipping away late, went into overtime quick,

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Speaker 1: he didn't shy away, he delivered, and now he's a

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Speaker 1: national hero.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fascinating.

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Speaker 4: Hockey's getting really interesting in the Olympics right now because

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Speaker 4: we're out of the group round and so these are

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Speaker 4: all do or die games.

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Speaker 5: You lose and you go home. You win and you

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Speaker 5: get to advance. And Canada.

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Speaker 4: I was actually making fun of the Canadian hockey team

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Speaker 4: because before the US played, the Canadian hockey team had

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Speaker 4: to go to overtime to get their win, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, look at these guys, they might not be

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Speaker 4: very good this year.

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Speaker 5: And then I started puckering up.

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Speaker 4: As I was watching the US hockey team yesterday afternoon,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my gosh, Sweden's taking us to overtime.

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Speaker 5: We could get knocked out of this right now and

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Speaker 5: go home without any metal at all.

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Speaker 4: When we've been expecting, I mean, the whole world is

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Speaker 4: expected that the US and Canada will face off in

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Speaker 4: the gold medal game. Those are clearly the two best

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Speaker 4: teams in the world right now. But man, it was

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Speaker 4: it was neck and neck there in overtime and the

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Speaker 4: US team finally pulled out that win.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the competitive all in mindset that really

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Speaker 1: defines successful teams. And also it's a reflection of not

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Speaker 1: only the United States hockey team, but the United States

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Speaker 1: as a whole.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, our national pride is on the line in this.

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Speaker 4: And we'd love to hear the trend of the US

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Speaker 4: hockey team wherever they go, and they're doing this at

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Speaker 4: the Olympics that whenever the US hockey team scores a goal,

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Speaker 4: they play free bird in the stadium. And so that's

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Speaker 4: been so much fun and there's just been so much

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Speaker 4: build up because now we've got NHL players playing. The

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Speaker 4: last couple of Olympics, the NHL players didn't participate, but they.

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Speaker 5: Are playing in these Olympics.

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Speaker 4: So you've got the Kachuck brothers and all these great

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Speaker 4: NHL players that we know already. We don't have to

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Speaker 4: learn who these people are. So there's this massive interest

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Speaker 4: in hockey. And the US got to win. That was

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Speaker 4: just the quarterfinals. We've still got to so the semifinal

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Speaker 4: game is coming up next and then hopefully the US

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Speaker 4: wins that and they'll be a the gold medal game.

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Speaker 2: Yep, so the US. They haven't won the Olympic men's

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Speaker 2: hockey gold since.

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Speaker 5: You know it Miracle on ice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Sweden almost had their own miracle on ice against US.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Sweden hockey team is pretty good. It's

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Speaker 4: not an exact analogy to the nineteen eighty US men's

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Speaker 4: hockey team. We were a bunch of amateurs playing the

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Speaker 4: best team in the world. But that's kind of what

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Speaker 4: was going through my mind. I was like, here, we're here,

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Speaker 4: We're the you know, kings of the hockey world. We

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Speaker 4: should be crushing these guys and going on in Sweden

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Speaker 4: and took us to the matt yesterday and into overtime

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Speaker 4: and it was a nail bier right down to the end.

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Speaker 1: You know, most people associate hockey with Canada and think

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Speaker 1: that that is their national sport.

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Speaker 2: It's actually not.

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Speaker 5: Hockey, is it. Wait? Wait, do you know the national

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Speaker 5: sport of Canada? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 5: Is it curling?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 5: Curling is huge in Canada.

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Speaker 2: It's not their national sport.

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Speaker 5: Is it Canadian football?

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Speaker 2: Nope? You got one more guests, and then I'll give

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Speaker 2: you the answer.

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Speaker 5: Basketball. It is lacrosse, No way, it is lacrosse is

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Speaker 5: the Canadian national sport. I didn't know they played lacrosse

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Speaker 5: up there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fighting TLAVERI end, don't give up. That was

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Speaker 1: the message that we got from the US men's hockey team.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WYBC seven