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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome into a Tuesday, one day remove

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Speaker 1: from a victory Monday. We'll keep it rolling today after

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Speaker 1: a victory in Berlin and an off week in the

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Speaker 1: bye this week for the Indianapolis Colts, the Pacers getting

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Speaker 1: some good news and they'll be back in action on

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Speaker 1: the court later tonight in Utah with many more folks available,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that as the day moves along.

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Speaker 1: Mark Dyke and jeff Rickord today because once again Kevin

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Speaker 1: Bowen is off on paternity leave after he and Maddie

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Speaker 1: welcomed in their third wonderful child, Nelly, this past weekend.

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Speaker 1: If you missed it yesterday, Caleb zover in here running

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Speaker 1: the ones and Tuesday for Mark Dyton. Did you get

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Speaker 1: like a does Mark give you like a college education class?

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Speaker 1: Like a board op in one oh one? Producing one

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Speaker 2: It's a speed run, but it's a great speed run.

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Speaker 2: It's prepared to me go it well, it's prepared me great.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a couple weeks ago I came into

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Speaker 2: the show for a whole week and doing it the

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Speaker 2: last couple of days has been great. Mark's a great teacher,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not. Good wine, Wow, that's what happens. Wow,

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Speaker 2: three daughters at home to be savvy over there. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: three daughters will do that for you. And then you know,

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Speaker 2: little do you know that I've actually sad Darton saying, what.

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Speaker 1: Would missus Dykeon say about you being in a great

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Speaker 1: educational force here?

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Speaker 2: Don't ask me any math questions that's how that goes anyway,

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Speaker 2: or what an adjective is and stuff like that. I

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Speaker 2: don't remember. We're off and.

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Speaker 1: Running, and I suppose the big news this morning as

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Speaker 1: the Colts get ready to get healthy and enjoy a

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Speaker 1: week off, PACER's getting some good news. It looks like

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Speaker 1: tonight it's questionable for TJ McConnell, but he's been moved

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Speaker 1: up to questionable and may be available before the road

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Speaker 1: trip is over. If not, tonight, aeron Nee Smith is

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Speaker 1: going to be back. It looks like Nemhart's going to

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Speaker 1: be available. And Pascal Siakam has been taking off a

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Speaker 1: short lived stint on the injury report, which I think

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Speaker 1: was really more about doing back to backs and things

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Speaker 2: So telling me there's a chance, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Telling you there may be a chance. Moving forward. We

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Speaker 1: still know that Obi Tappen is going to be out

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Speaker 1: till probably February. That's not going to change at all.

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Speaker 1: We know that Tyrese Haliburton has lost for the entire season.

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Speaker 1: That hasn't changed at all. But they may be starting

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Speaker 1: to get some guards back. They might have a point

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Speaker 2: That all light at the end of the tunnel. I

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Speaker 2: see on this dark spiral that the Pacers season has

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Speaker 1: What's the oak cliche? As long as not the headlight

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Speaker 1: of the train coming right out right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would be some good news. They could

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Speaker 2: use some good news. That would be great. So we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to Alex Golden a little bit later on today,

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Speaker 2: just get his thoughts on where the season has gone

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Speaker 2: so far and when they start getting some healthy bodies back,

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Speaker 2: does that change how this team starts playing, because obviously

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Speaker 2: one win through the start of the season not greats

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Speaker 2: and you try to wrap up this road trip. Can

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Speaker 2: you get away with at least a win here in

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Speaker 2: these last two games before you return on Saturday to Gainbridge.

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Speaker 2: We'll see, but yeah, it would be nice to get

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Speaker 2: some healthy bodies on there.

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Speaker 1: And I want to point out too, they're still not

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Speaker 1: in as big a hole right now as they were

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Speaker 1: when they were ten and twenty five or what I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess they were ten and fifteen last year. They're

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Now they have to win a

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Speaker 2: lot of games to get back to ten and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The math is not math, and but yeah, they're in

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Speaker 1: Pacers way, so I don't expect that they're going to

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Speaker 1: reading a bunch of articles this morning, Mark where national

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Speaker 1: the Pacers. They can get a top four draft pick,

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Speaker 1: possibly if they go into the lottery and have one

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Speaker 1: getting a good player from what is supposed to be

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's some Pacers positivity that we can

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Speaker 2: dive into during the show today because there is there's

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Speaker 2: some bright spots here. And one of the things, for sure,

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Speaker 2: I feel like went under the radar, just because we're

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Speaker 2: also invested in the postseason run that they went on

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Speaker 2: and getting in the finals, is there's that trade that

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Speaker 2: the finals, and everybody's like scratching the head, like what

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Speaker 2: middle of the finals for But when they traded the

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Speaker 2: Pelicans the rights Toamahab King and their first round pick

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, they reacquired their own twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six first round pick, and that is coming up large

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden considering everything that's happened since the

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Speaker 2: finals took place, since that trade went down, because now

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Speaker 2: you're looking at and you're like, well, now you might

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Speaker 2: be looking at a top three pick or a lottery pick.

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Speaker 2: At the very least, we might be looking at a

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Speaker 2: So that trade that went under the radar back in June,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're okay, Okay, that ends

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Speaker 2: up being a pretty big trade that happened in June

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Speaker 1: It might be a long regular season, but we'll off

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Speaker 1: to wait and see again. They're just starting to get healthy,

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Speaker 1: and like I said, this group here, if they can

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Speaker 1: Obi Topping gets back, and it's it's going to be

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Speaker 1: he's able to do originally, assuming no further injuries. I

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Speaker 1: was a guy that said forty one and forty one right.

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Speaker 1: People were laughing at me. I don't know they can

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Speaker 1: win thirty games right now the way things have been

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Speaker 1: at winning most night, a shot at winning most nights.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say you're the favorite most night, but

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the NBA, so you anyone can win

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Speaker 2: on any given night. But yeah, I agree that your

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Speaker 2: that they've had to go. When you're pulling guys off

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Speaker 2: and everything, no one could have seen that coming at all.

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Speaker 2: So I do think that's also another benefit of kind

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Speaker 2: kind of knew this season was going to be not

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Speaker 2: necessarily a wash, but we knew that it wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to lead to what we saw last season. So you're, okay, well, no,

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Miles is gone. Can we get some decent run

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Speaker 2: from guys and see them step up? I think now

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Speaker 2: with the injuries, you're receiving even more opportunities for guys

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Speaker 2: So I do think there are some bright spots, and

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Speaker 2: it has not been a very good start to the season.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you your moment in the sun here, because.

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Speaker 2: I've been waiting most of America.

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting while most of America was watching kind

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Speaker 1: of a dull, boring Monday night football game last night

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Speaker 1: that game in Green Bay pat Pathaway. Packers have lost

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Speaker 1: two home games in a row. How about that.

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Speaker 2: They suck, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing your attention was diverted elsewhere a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, we were doing a two screen TV night, so

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Speaker 2: so it'd have been blacked out of Monday Night football.

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Speaker 2: But we had Monday Night football going. We had some

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Speaker 2: wrestling going on, which the girls were very excited about.

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Speaker 1: A Landmark night last Landmark.

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Speaker 2: It was a red one. It was a good one.

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Speaker 1: Fill us in.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: John Cena had four nights left of his ww career.

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Speaker 2: I love this.

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Speaker 1: How old is John Cena?

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Speaker 2: He's gotta be in his forties.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that wrestlers can thrive into their forties.

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Speaker 2: He is forty eight. Years old, John Cena putting in work,

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Speaker 2: so four dates left. Last night was in his hometown

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Speaker 2: And the one title he had never won throughout his

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Speaker 2: career was the inter Continental Championship. Blow and behold the

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Speaker 2: heel dominic mysterio comes out, starts spawning him in his

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Speaker 2: and says, any other night you might have the last word,

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Speaker 2: but I'm invincible. Tonight he faces him for the inter

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Speaker 2: Content Championship. John Cena is a Grand Slam champion. He

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Speaker 2: won the inter Continental Championship. That was great to see.

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Speaker 2: That was very cool. So that was a very fun

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Speaker 2: night of Monday Night Raw. And it was also very

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Speaker 2: fun on Monday Night Football because the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 2: looked dreadful at lambeau Field, and that game was a

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Speaker 2: bit of a slog Matt Lafleur not quite quieting any

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packer fans on social media.

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Speaker 2: It is growing. They won him out, It is growing.

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Speaker 2: That Yeah, one drop he showed you, right, That's about

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Speaker 2: all that got in the arsenal over here. Yeah, Matt

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Speaker 2: Lafleur is not getting any fans in Green Bay and

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love had just some terrible plays yesterday and then

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Speaker 2: their kicker just stinks, so that warmed my heart. It

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Speaker 2: was not a very well played game, but a ten

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Speaker 2: to seven loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, who are getting

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Speaker 2: away with false starts left and right. This was crazy.

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Speaker 1: They got a guy that's a full yard down field.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't call them the off side that it

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Speaker 2: took us that long to figure like, why does this

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Speaker 2: play work so well? And it was literally a couple

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Speaker 2: weeks ago and that Kansas City game where they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: because their entire offensive line is starting to move forward

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Speaker 2: before the balls even snacked because the left guard has

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Speaker 2: already headbutted the other player on the opponent. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: that is getting very agreen. Just even they're like, well,

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Speaker 2: Look how off how much of a fallse start they're getting.

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Speaker 2: So the NFL is going to have to evaluate that

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Speaker 1: All right, it's all straight ahead, A big morning for

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Speaker 1: We've got Kevin Bowen on paternity leave, and we've got

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, in the National Football League last night, Monday Night Football,

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Speaker 1: Last night in the NBA, I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: The only other one twenty sixteen World Series hero Kyle

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Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Colts. We'll talk about the next ninety

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Speaker 1: three five one, O, seven to five of the fan.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Mark Dyecton. I love it. Caleb. You're

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Speaker 2: warming my old wrestlering heart. Right now, they might lose

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Speaker 2: your spot. I've already accept I've already updated the LinkedIn.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming this job is no longer mine. Caleb has

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Speaker 2: taken over the last three shows. I'm assuming I'm out

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Speaker 2: of a job after today.

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Speaker 1: We got a text from during the break who says

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Speaker 1: that very surprised to see that Chiefs are minus nine

446
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Speaker 1: and a half over the Colts on covers dot com.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of covers dot com.

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Speaker 2: No, I was checking like the actual like betting apps.

449
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't see this anywhere where you can

450
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Speaker 2: place it two weeks out and everything, because I would

451
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Speaker 2: have jumped all over the Colts and the nine and

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Speaker 2: a half if that was the case. But apparently, yeah,

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Speaker 2: covers dot com. Can you bet on there? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but that is a surprising number for me. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you feel about that, but nine and a

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Speaker 2: half points considering this Colts team is eight and two,

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Speaker 2: and I know the Chiefs are the Chiefs, but nine

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Speaker 2: and a half points that seems like a tall a

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Speaker 2: tall number.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how it all comes out with the majority

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Speaker 1: of the sports books by the time we get to

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Speaker 1: game week. The only thing I could think that goes

463
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Speaker 1: into that right now is I think if you think

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Speaker 1: that the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Atlanta Falcons were putting

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Speaker 1: pressure on Daniel Jones, the Chiefs have a completely different

466
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Speaker 1: level of defensive line right now, anchored by Chris Jones,

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Speaker 1: who also does a pretty good job of stop in

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Speaker 1: the run and city right now, with Rashii Rocks returning,

469
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Speaker 1: they look like the offensive juggernaut that they have been

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Speaker 1: in the past. So I think that's probably a little high.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I would have expected it

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Speaker 1: to be more like four and a half something like that.

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Speaker 2: Nine and a half is shockingly high.

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Speaker 1: But if that's true, go find it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you could get it, jump on it, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: nine and a half, that's reserve for like the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: against the Jets or something like that, the Chiefs Colts.

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Speaker 2: I would not expect to open up at nine and

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Speaker 2: a half when the actual week twelve games come out,

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Speaker 2: because that is a big number. I know. Steve Spagnolo

481
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Speaker 2: is a hell of a DC. He's going to scheme

482
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Speaker 2: stuff up to try to get that offensive line of

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Speaker 2: the Colts on more shaky ground and try to disrupt

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Speaker 2: what Daniel Jones is doing. But nine and a half

485
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Speaker 2: is a big number. That's like blowout numbers in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think by the time we get

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Speaker 2: to this time next week, what do you think that

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Speaker 2: line will actually be. I'm with Jeff, I think it'd

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Speaker 2: be more like four and a half. I think you

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Speaker 2: usually get three when you're at home anyway, So I

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Speaker 2: would say the Colts the Chiefs get a slight uptick

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Speaker 2: just because they're starting to turn it on a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So four and a half maybe five and a half,

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Speaker 2: But nine and a half is insane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things I look at the at

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now. I don't know that Kansas City

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Speaker 1: may be emerging again. I still know they have a

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Speaker 1: stud running back. I mean, Kareem Hunt is great in

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Speaker 1: short yardage. Pacheco never seems to be available for more

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Speaker 1: than two weeks in a row, three weeks in a row,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what their running game is. But again,

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Speaker 1: you get Rashi Rice, some of those other receivers, and

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Speaker 1: certainly Travis Kelcey, Patrick Mahomes is going to feel pretty

504
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Speaker 1: good about that stuff. Their defense is playing really well.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that there is a dominant NFL

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Speaker 1: team this year, and I think that bodes well for

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts because New England they're new on the

508
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Speaker 1: scene and Drake May is one of the favorites for MVP,

509
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Speaker 1: and I get it, and Mike Vrabel can coach, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there. You know, you're getting ready

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Speaker 1: for a game against New England, whoever you are in

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Speaker 1: this week. I don't think you're just like shivering, like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how are we going to do this?

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Speaker 1: You take a look at the Denver broncause I've told

515
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Speaker 1: you before, I think their offense is fraudulent. Their defense

516
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Speaker 1: might be the best in the league, but I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have problems in the playoffs. The Chargers, they

518
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Speaker 1: kind they just there. There's a lot of variants in

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Speaker 1: their performance.

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Speaker 2: I always like the Chargers, but they always do things

521
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Speaker 2: at the end of the season where you're like, what happened?

522
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Speaker 2: You had such a big lead? What happened there? They

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Speaker 2: have one three in a row, and I love Jim Harbaugh.

524
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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is a hell of a coach. He's very entertaining.

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Speaker 2: He's getting the best out of Justin Herbert. But I

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Speaker 2: still don't trust the Chargers. I've been scorned before, so

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I fully trust them. But yes,

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Speaker 2: var as the AC AFC in general is concerned, there

529
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Speaker 2: are no dominant teams. The Bills randomly lost to the

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Speaker 2: Dolphins last week after beating the Chiefs the week before.

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Speaker 2: I know so was that. I don't know what happened there,

532
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Speaker 2: so it's very odd. The Ravens are starting to find themselves.

533
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Speaker 2: Their defense is not good. The Steelers are taking steps back.

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Speaker 2: It's wide open the AFC. I said that earlier, that

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Speaker 2: you look at the top three teams that are in

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Speaker 2: there right now, as the Patriots, the Colts, and the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Nobody would have had that at the start of the season.

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Speaker 2: But that just tells you how wide open the AFC is.

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Speaker 2: If we're going all encompassing or including the NFC, I

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Speaker 2: think the Seahawks might be the best balance. The Rams

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Speaker 2: are coming on, so Rams are coming on strong as well,

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Speaker 2: But I would say the Seahawks are the Rams are

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Speaker 2: the two most balanced teams in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Detroit, I don't know what to take of that win.

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Speaker 1: They head over the Washington Commanders. I mean, Washington's really

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Speaker 1: struggling right now. Marcus Marriotto is playing quarterback and it

547
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Speaker 1: just looked like Jimar Gibbs and I'm on a round

548
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Speaker 1: Saint Brown. They could just do whatever they wanted against.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Commanders are done. The Lions are once again

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Speaker 2: using their potent offense. Their defense is still nothing to

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Speaker 2: write home about, but the Lions are the front runners

552
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Speaker 2: for the NFC North for a reason. Everyone else is

553
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Speaker 2: kind of playing trying to play catch up. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I trust Dan Campbell in that offense to keep it rolling,

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Speaker 2: don't you Last season, don't you guys think that this

556
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Speaker 2: conversation we're having is why what made last week really

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Speaker 2: important that the Colts. Yes, I think that's the part

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Speaker 2: of the reason that they made the move. It's there.

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Speaker 2: There's not someone you're scared of in your conference, maybe

560
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, but if you can get them at home,

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Speaker 2: you like your chances. I just think it all goes

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Speaker 2: back to it, yes, yes, And I just think it

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Speaker 2: goes back to last week and why the Colts did

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Speaker 2: what they did is because it is wide open and

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Speaker 2: you didn't see anyone in the NFL make as big

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Speaker 2: of a swing as the Colts did at the trade deadline. No,

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, And I also think like obviously

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Speaker 2: the expectations and projections of what we had the Colts

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Speaker 2: heading into the season versus now are totally different. That's

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Speaker 2: why I'm also kind of curious, Like we're at the

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Speaker 2: bye week now, they're eight and two, one of the

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Speaker 2: best teams in the AFC. Like expectation wise, like what

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Speaker 2: is your expectations for the team going forward? Like it

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Speaker 2: could be anything. Is it just winning the AFC South?

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Speaker 2: Is it beating at Jacksonville? Is that the big marker

576
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Speaker 2: for you? Like getting the AFC Championship game? What are expectations?

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Speaker 2: I am curious to see because I know mine have

578
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Speaker 2: obviously adjusted. I'm sure everyone's have. But you know, three one,

579
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Speaker 2: seven SEVENY hit us up on the text line or

580
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Speaker 2: give us a phone call, let us know expectations at

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Speaker 2: this point, what would you be disappointed about, like as

582
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Speaker 2: a Colts fan, like if they don't get to this thing,

583
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Speaker 2: in my mind, it'll be a disappointing season, or there'll

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Speaker 2: be a letdown.

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Speaker 1: I think they need to have at least a playoff win.

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Speaker 1: The way things are, they're sitting here at eight and

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Speaker 1: two right now, does it give me at least a

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Speaker 1: playoff win.

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Speaker 2: So I think my expectation where I will be let

590
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Speaker 2: down is if they don't at least get to the

591
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Speaker 2: AFC divisional round, whether that's a wild card win and

592
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Speaker 2: you're in or you already get the buy and you're

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Speaker 2: in there. If you don't get at least there, I

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Speaker 2: think I will be let down. Given the eight and

595
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Speaker 2: two records, so a divisional round appearance not necessarily a way,

596
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Speaker 2: but if there's around the appearance, I think is where

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Speaker 2: my expectations are.

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Speaker 1: If they go twelve and five and thirteen at four

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Speaker 1: and don't win a home playoff game, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be boned.

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Speaker 2: That's also fair too, all yeah. I also think when

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Speaker 2: we get the divisional round, I feel like the usual

603
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Speaker 2: suspects in the AFC are going to be there, and

604
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Speaker 2: so you're going to step up in class big time

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Speaker 2: with the likes of I think the Bills. I think

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Speaker 2: the Ravens are.

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Speaker 1: Going to make it.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are going to do Chiefs things. So when

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Speaker 2: you start getting those heavy hitters in the playoffs. That's

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Speaker 2: going to be the obviously the truly big test for

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Speaker 2: Shane Steichen and crew, and I'm curious to see how

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Speaker 2: they stack up. So my expectation at this point is

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Speaker 2: division round again, whether it's a winner or loss, or

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Speaker 2: at least are there. I think for me it's winning

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Speaker 2: the division right now, Eddie, and you're right, Mark just

616
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Speaker 2: kind of reassessed once say better way. You cannot. You

617
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Speaker 2: cannot blow this division. You can't.

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Speaker 1: Somebody just sent us the line on cbssports dot com

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Speaker 1: their sports line Colts are eight and a half point

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Speaker 1: underdogs to the Chiefs on that particular site.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I might go there right now. I'm not

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Speaker 2: a betting man, but.

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Speaker 1: That was Todd that sent that into us.

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Speaker 2: Might have to go do that. Bob says, A winning

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Speaker 2: a home playoff game is my expectation at this point.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Bob.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the name here, but he's chiming in

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Speaker 2: on text Lines says, my expectation is to win the

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Speaker 2: AFC South. The old disappointment would be missing the playoffs altogether,

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Speaker 2: and then.

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Speaker 1: It would be huge if they missed the playoffs at

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Speaker 1: this point.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that would be That would be a monumental,

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Speaker 2: monumental fault. Yeah, that would be a huge disappointment because

635
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Speaker 2: at eight and two, even if you go four and

636
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Speaker 2: four the rest of the way, that's still twelve wins.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be sniffing anything close to missing the division.

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Speaker 2: Either that or someone the Jaguars are catching an ultimate

639
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: heater all of a sudden, the Texans are finally putting

640
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Speaker 2: it on or something. Gary and Noblesville says, the next

641
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Speaker 2: five weeks will tell us if we're going to what

642
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Speaker 2: we're going to do in the playoffs. And again, Anthony

643
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Speaker 2: who because he's why?

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Speaker 1: Why is Anthony getting astray out?

645
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is the story is what it is. He's

648
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Speaker 1: not going to be the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I haven't thought about Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's.

651
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Speaker 2: Mattsy says, super Bowl or bust. Well, yeah, obviously that

652
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Speaker 2: would be the ultimate goal of all thirty two teams.

653
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Speaker 2: But yeah, my expectation is division round, Division round or bust.

654
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Speaker 1: Probably super Bowl perdue USI Dad says AFC Division round,

655
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Speaker 1: but still hate the cold. Still haven't played hardly into

656
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: division teams. Well, it's not like the division teams are terrible.

657
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: Play who's on the schedule, man, you got to do it.

658
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: So he's taking care of you right now.

659
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Speaker 1: Of Houston, Jacksonville and Tennessee, well not Tennessee at all.

660
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: And the Jaguars are doing Jaguars things. The Texans maybe,

661
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: I guess, but that also depends on if C. J.

662
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: Straut is healthy and he's been He's had quite quite

663
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: a sophomore slump.

664
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Speaker 1: Oh the tight point. We're done with the Titans.

665
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: Though, Oh Titans. Yeah, no, no, no chance at all, no,

666
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: no no issue, no concern at all for the Titans.

667
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: Titans are already looking at Tanka five.

668
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we've already We've already completed our schedule.

669
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Speaker 2: They're circling, uh, Fernando Mendoza potentially, like I don't know this,

670
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: cam Ward is gonna shake out. Maybe should look at Fernando.

671
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Speaker 1: I agree with Matt c Whre he says super Bowl

672
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: or bust. But you gotta win in Jacksonville, Like, just

673
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: go get a win in Jacksonville for goodness sakes.

674
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I mean again, maybe that's your expectation.

675
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: Maybe that's how you can tell that the season's turning

676
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: round as if they went at Jacksonville. I think James

677
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: before he went off to Perid he thought they were

678
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: still going to lose in jackson I'm like, really, at

679
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: three and two, we're gonna still drop in Jacksonville. Let's

680
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: hope not. But anything can happen in the NFL. Obviously,

681
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: the Jaguars just lost to Davis Mills, so I'm not

682
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: trusting the Jaguars we beat that again.

683
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: One of the things we are concerned about right now

684
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: is pass protection, whether it's something Daniel Jones is doing,

685
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: whether it's the front line not being able to pick

686
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: up blitz is, whatever it is. They have been under siege,

687
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones has been letting go of the football

688
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: the last two weeks against Pittsburgh and against Atlanta both

689
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: that has been problematic. There's no question about that. Yesterday

690
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken talked about his level of concern with pass

691
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Speaker 1: protection in the number of sacks right now.

692
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Speaker 5: I don't have a huge level of concern. I think,

693
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 5: you know, when you see the stat line of sacks,

694
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: I think every sack has a story to it, and

695
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: I always look at myself first. And there's certain calls

696
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 5: that I could have called better to put our guys

697
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 5: in better position.

698
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: So those don't happen.

699
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: So that's on me.

700
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Speaker 5: Those things that happened in the game, I got to

701
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: do better, you know, for those guys.

702
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: Matt Tee also says, Jeff, I'm glad they pulled that

703
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: one out because to his point about Stike and taking

704
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: responsibility there, if not that law, if they had lost

705
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: that game against Atlanta, it was one hundred percent on

706
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: Stike and his desired to go for it on fourth

707
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: down inside the thirty is going to cause losses. He

708
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: is just a slave to analytics and needs to get

709
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: a feel for the game. Some of that's true, but

710
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: also I've been very successful on some of these fourth

711
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: downs as well.

712
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: They have, and we can dive into that TOAs he

713
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: addressed the fourth down aggressiveness and everything earlier today or yesterday,

714
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 2: and yeah, just discuss like you know, they're looking at

715
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: everything there. But he still likes he trusts the guys

716
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: to get the job done and everything. I understand that

717
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: from a coaching perspective, but as a as a fan

718
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 2: or just watching the Dame, like in games like Where's

719
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: It's super close, and you know what's going to come

720
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: down to, maybe a play here or play there. Sometimes

721
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: you just have to bite your tongue and take the points.

722
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: And I know you might not trust Michael Badgley completely,

723
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: but at some point you have to figure out, you know,

724
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: we have to trust our kicker at some point because

725
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: we're going to need him down the stretch, especially in

726
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Games come down to a one score game,

727
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: you're going to need to start making field goals. So

728
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: I understand the aggressiveness. I know that's the new thing

729
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: to do in the NFL these days, but at some

730
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 2: point you just need to take the points at some point.

731
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Well he's said yesterday, not even thinking about changing kickers

732
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: at this time.

733
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Speaker 2: No, And I don't surprise that. That doesn't surprise me.

734
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Speaker 1: An I was thinking about this this morning too. One

735
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: of the things you don't want to get into. And

736
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: I know he's missed two extra points and those are

737
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: the things that worry me the most. And he was

738
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: a little shy and a long field goal and I

739
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: get all that, but what I don't like, and I

740
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: see this with teams sometimes is when they get into

741
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: this just a revolving door of kickers and tryouts every Tuesday.

742
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: That doesn't help anybody, and I don't think it does

743
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: anything good. It's like you're just going through things hoping.

744
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: It's like the general manager that just keeps drafting quarterbacks

745
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: in the top three spots of every draft, hoping that

746
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: one of them is going to stick at some point

747
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: in time, ignoring the fact that the guys you're choosing

748
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: were risk key to begin with, and then and then

749
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: trying to sell it. Well, you know, people were saying good, No,

750
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll draft a mediocre quarterback because there's a it's

751
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: a poor quarterback class and you happen to be drafting

752
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: in the top two or three. I need a quarterback.

753
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a complete crap shoot. And there's guys

754
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: that every expert will say, this is the number one guy.

755
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: You have to take this guy or you're an idiot,

756
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: and then you take him and he doesn't turn out,

757
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: and then the guy you passed on, like, oh he

758
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: turned out. Who would have seen that coming. I'll a CJ.

759
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: Stroud versus Bryce Young, Travis said giving Daniel Jones a

760
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: contract extension would be my disappointment in this full season. Well, Jones, train.

761
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: You wait until the end of the year to figure

762
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: out what you want to do with Daniel Jobs and.

763
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: Even then, if you can't agree on a contract extension,

764
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: you can always just franchise tag him and you figure

765
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: it out from there.

766
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: Well the question, and then the question starts to become

767
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: too if if Daniel Jones continues to have rocky performances

768
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: like he's had the last couple of weeks, where look

769
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: at the Atlanta game he was mostly solid but still

770
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: made a few mistakes. The Pittsburgh game, he was awful.

771
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: Does he become your Kirk Cousins at some point in time?

772
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: And is that a good thing or a pet thing?

773
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: I don't. I always hate it when people bashed on

774
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: Kirk points I know you're not.

775
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: It's not a bash. But Kirk Cousins is never the

776
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: quarterback that's going to completely elevate your teams to be

777
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: a year in, year out super Bowl contender. But he's

778
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: also good enough to get you a bunch of wins.

779
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: I think he's good enough to get a bunch of wins.

780
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: And I also think when everything around you is right

781
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: and good and has talent, I think you can make

782
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: a deep run right, But then you kirk Cousins.

783
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: But then you go back to, Okay, are we gonna win?

784
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: Are we going to continue? Then in the kirk Cousins

785
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: vein to be the ten or eleven win team every

786
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: year that loses in the first round of the playoffs.

787
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: Fair question, fair question. You get stuck in that purgatory.

788
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: He's a guy that you could win with, but not

789
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: win because of it.

790
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: By the way, that's exactly where Josh Allen and the

791
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: Bills are right now too. For all the things that

792
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: we love to say, and I'm a big fan of

793
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, but for all the things we love to

794
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 1: say about Josh Allen, and people can say, whether it's

795
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: McDermott that Tolden him back or whatever, they haven't gotten

796
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: it done yet.

797
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: Well, look, you just go look around the league at

798
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: some of the teams that have had to pay their

799
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks recently, and how like the top of the line

800
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: money and how it's just affected the rosters around them.

801
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: Like Josh, you're never going to count the Bills out

802
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: of winning the conference, but like, who does he have

803
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: to throw to right now? He doesn't have any playmakers

804
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: in the outside colts right now, You're getting away with

805
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: paying a quarterback on a rookie contract Anthony Richardson and

806
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, which was what seventeen million dollars was the contract. Like,

807
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: if you can keep it down, I know he's going

808
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: to have to get paid this off season to retain him.

809
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 2: But if it's not that top of the line money,

810
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: you can still really extend peers do some of the

811
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: other extensions that they need to do.

812
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: So here's what it comes interesting to. Here's the bottom

813
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: line of the AFC for probably the next five to

814
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: seven years. Does your quarterback have the stones to go

815
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: head to head on the road in January in Kansas

816
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: City against Patrick Mahomes for the next five to seven years.

817
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: That's not changing, guys.

818
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, And Josh Allen is not.

819
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: He's been able to win regular season games, but he

820
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to get it done in the postseason.

821
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: And we've seen not not because of him necessarily. Mean,

822
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I think of that classic game a couple of years

823
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: ago in the playoffs where both of them scored in

824
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: the final thirty seconds of the game.

825
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 2: One of the greatest playoff games of all time. Yeah,

826
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: even if even if the Chiefs do have like an

827
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: off season. It seems like if you're not going to

828
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: Kansas City, you're going to Buffalo probably, so you need

829
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 2: to be able to play in hostile environments and everything.

830
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: And the Gilette in New England. Yeah, we kind of

831
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: wrote off the Patriots the last few years, but all

832
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: of a sudden, now, Yeah, Geletta stadium. What a pain

833
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: in the asset is to get to that stadium. Stadium,

834
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: it's worse getting out. It's off, it's worse getting out.

835
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: This is a chore.

836
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: If you go to a football game at Gillette. Once

837
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: you the grounds are fine. It's like the stadium is

838
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: attached to a big entertainment complex. Oh it's a movie theater,

839
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: it's everything. Once you're on site, it's fine, but it's

840
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: going to take you. If you live in Boston, first

841
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: of all, it's going to take you two hours to

842
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: get to the stadium. Get out, it's gonna take three

843
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: hours to get back home. One of the things I

844
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: love about Indianapolis game starts at one. I don't leave

845
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: my house until eleven forty five. I get to the

846
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: seat in plenty of time for kickoff, and I'm home

847
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: by five o'clock. I can watch the second half of

848
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: the afternoon games.

849
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might as well be living in Providence, Rhode

850
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: Island to be able to get to the Patriots state

851
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: where it is in vicinity to Boston.

852
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: No, and paying season ticket holder makes a good point,

853
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: and I realize this about myself and Mark, you know

854
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: what my personal model is, and I'll share it with everybody.

855
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: In a moment here, he says, it seems kind of

856
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: funny that you're talking about Daniel Jones losing in the

857
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. We haven't even made it

858
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: to the playoffs yet.

859
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: Once we make it.

860
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: To the playoffs, me being a Sason ticket holder, gonna

861
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: celebrate and then I'll hope for an extinction, laugh out loud.

862
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: And my motto is and will always be all I

863
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: ever wants a little more than I'll ever get.

864
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: That's exciting. It starts right there, and it starts now.

865
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: They can apply to a lot of things. Uh. Sam

866
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: from Newcastle says is also Jones' first year in the offense.

867
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: He can potentially get better the longer he's in it.

868
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Speaker 2: I agree. I think he and Shane are meshing well.

869
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: They seem to be football robots. So you know when

870
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: you can come you can do the thing where you

871
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: put the phones together and you have the AI talk

872
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: to each other. That's kind of what Shane Steichen and

873
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones are just AI football robots.

874
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: Who has time to put two phones together and have

875
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 1: AI talk to Oh, well, you haven't been on Instagram.

876
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: Room TikTok, my friend. You got to check that out.

877
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: Whether the robots are talking, No, I've seen where humans

878
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: are talking. I've never seen the robots talking. That's chattering

879
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 2: where they realize like are you AI? Yes I am AI?

880
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Are you AI? Yes? I am? And they're just talking.

881
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: They eight afterwards or what I don't know, crossing their

882
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: circuits or something. But no, Shane and Shane and Daniel

883
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: have there. They found their football wives. I guess you

884
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: could say they are attached to the hip at the moment.

885
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: They're finding the best out of each other. So can

886
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: that keep going? We saw the you know a little

887
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: bit of slip ups last couple of weeks from Daniel Jones.

888
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 2: Shaanstiken doesn't seem overly concerned. We can dive into that

889
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: as well a little bit later on. But looks like

890
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 2: they're just going to do a self scout at the

891
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: bye week, which is the right thing to do. Him

892
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: and the coaching staff getting labs see what's going wrong

893
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: last two weeks with the offensive line and Daniel Jones

894
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: and try to right the ship as they get ready

895
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 2: for the Kansas City Chiefs, which again, there's no way

896
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: that line is nine and a half. No, no way,

897
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: there's zero chance.

898
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: Eight and a half On on CBO Sports.

899
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: You can't bet on Cebia. I need places that you

900
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: can actually bet money on you.

901
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: You could probably bet anywhere. I would have guessed.

902
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: Someone said the Chiefs and Broncos this week, is that

903
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are four and a half point favorites against

904
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: the Broncos. And I'm like, and they would be nine

905
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites against the chief the Colts.

906
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: That can't be.

907
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with the Broncos. The reason, and I'll

908
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: tell you this from a betting perspective, the Broncos all

909
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: season long, you're never gonna see big lines one way

910
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: or the other because because nobody knows what their offense

911
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: is going to do. But that defense is nasty.

912
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll keep it close.

913
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: That defense is nasty.

914
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, can Bonick show up before the fourth quarter?

915
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: That'd be also nice. That would be nice, especially for

916
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: my fantasy team because they're time. Should I bench you?

917
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

918
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: See? Three point seven gets it. This is my point,

919
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: he says. The fact that you're comparing Josh Allen with

920
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is crazy. The Bills have gotten to the

921
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: precipice of the AFC Championship twice because of amazing games

922
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: by Josh Allen. He's missing my point. The point is

923
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: I love Josh Allen. He happens to be my favorite

924
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL right now. I love watching him play.

925
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm angry every day that one or two of my

926
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: teams didn't take a chance on Josh Allen when they

927
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: had the opportunity. My point is, until you can determine

928
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: that you are capable of beating Patrick Mahomes in the postseason,

929
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: everybody's playing for second place until you can get over

930
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: that hump. And right now, he has not been able

931
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: to take the Bills to the Promised Land.

932
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: You know, there's only three quarterbacks that have done that.

933
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: It's Brady Burrow and Jalen Hurts. Those are the only

934
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: teams to beat Mahomes in the postseason. I mean that's

935
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: crazy to think about.

936
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: He's in the postseason every single year.

937
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable. He's made the Super Bowl so many times,

938
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: he's won it three times already. It's crazy. Pat from Russia,

939
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: Ohio says, my buddy's father in law says, Mahomes is

940
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: washed and the Chiefs are done. He we talk some

941
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: sense of them.

942
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Boy, if that's washed, what Patrick Mahomes is doing, I'll

943
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: take you that version every single day and twice on Sunday.

944
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: He's still very good. He's never beaten the Colts. That's

945
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 2: also the regular season. Yeah yeah.

946
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: He also points out that if if you're definition of

947
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, no I'm talking about a great quarterback,

948
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm talking about somebody. Yeah, the king is Patrick Mahomes.

949
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 1: The only conversation that exists in the AFC is who

950
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: is going to continuously give you a chance to beat

951
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: Patrick in a postseason game?

952
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Uh huh right, Yeah, that's that's that's what it all comes.

953
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: My point is he said, if your definition of that

954
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: quarterback is someone better than Josh Allen to hopefully beat

955
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: Kansas City, you will be disappointed forever. And I said,

956
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: that's my point exactly That's exactly my point because right now,

957
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: until proven otherwise, everybody else in the AFC is playing

958
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: for second place.

959
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's crazy to think about that because they are.

960
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have looked like pretty pretty uh the first.

961
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Half of the season.

962
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: They look pedestrian, They've looked they've looked pretty vulnerable, And

963
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: I just think the regular season is measured differently for

964
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: them than it is every other team in this league.

965
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: I mean, they they showed us that last year, even

966
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 2: just winning all those close games and not looking great

967
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: in them. I think the year before that, they had

968
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: a slow start and still wound up winning winning the championship.

969
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: So their regular season has just judged way differently than

970
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: everybody else's.

971
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: And as a Josh Allen fan, I was really disappointed

972
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: in his performance against the Miami Dolls best.

973
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: It was very weird.

974
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: That was an out I'm sure that's an outlier and

975
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: he'll be ounce back. I wouldn't be shocked to be

976
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: throws for like three hundred and eighty yards and five

977
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: touchdowns in one of the next two games.

978
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: It was one of those weird Sundays in the NFL

979
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: where just things happen where you're like that that seems odd,

980
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: like the Saints beating the Panthers, and yeah, the Bills

981
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: looking terrible against the Dolphins. So it was a weird Sunday.

982
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Before we get the break to. Part of the problem

983
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: with Kansas City is also Andy Reid. A lot of

984
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: times in the postseason, you're playing a team for the

985
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: second time that year. You don't want to be playing

986
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: it's a good point, second time in a year.

987
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 2: No, let's let's reset at the by. Let's get ready

988
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: for Kansas City. And if that line is truly nine

989
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: and a half, boy, I can't wait to spend some money.

990
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: We'll talk Colts with Jake Arthur coming up next. Keep

991
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: those texts coming. I appreciate him at two three, nine

992
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: ten seventy on the fan text line more in a

993
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: moment here on ninety three five and one seven five

994
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: to fan. This is crazy right here, Caleb. I was

995
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: watching a Blondie Debbie Harry documentary last night. Wow, how

996
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: crazy is that? I watched Saturday Night and.

997
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Get sharing passwords here? I don't know. I'm starting to

998
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: worry a little bit. Now, what's on your watch list?

999
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't I can go looking for it.

1000
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: You know how sometimes you just stumble upon something and

1001
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: then find they don't take Twenty minutes later you're still there.

1002
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, oh, I know this was out interesting.

1003
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: There's crazy stuff anyway. The Indianapolis Colts, they are off

1004
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: this week, they have the bye week. They get there

1005
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: with an eight and two record, tied for the best

1006
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: record in the National Football League. They come off an

1007
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: overtime win in Berlin. A crazy day for Jonathan Taylor.

1008
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: Lots to talk about, a lot of head and here

1009
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: to tell us more about it. Jake Arthur from Locked

1010
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: on Colts the Podcast joins us here on the fan

1011
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: Morning show on the Payloss Loookers Hotline. Good morning, Jake Arthur.

1012
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: What's the last music documentary you watched?

1013
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 3: Oh?

1014
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: Man, I don't know if I've ever specifically watched the

1015
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 6: music documentary, but I mean, I know I watched I

1016
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 6: watched that Queen movie, the Freddie.

1017
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: Mercury movie Bohemian Raps car Rock City About.

1018
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 6: Kiss was amazing. But that's that's a blast from the

1019
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 6: past there.

1020
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: Well, if you're interested at all, one of the best

1021
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: I've ever seen was on the Eagles. Check that one out.

1022
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: That's a good Pokact. But anyway, you were here to

1023
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: talk football right now. The Colts make it to the

1024
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: bye week with an eight and two record. In your

1025
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: wildest dreams back on August fifteenth, if I'd have said, Jake,

1026
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: don't worry, the Colts are going to turn to Daniel Jones.

1027
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: They're going to be eight and two at the break,

1028
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: and they're going to have the best plus minus of

1029
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL, you would have told me what.

1030
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 6: No, I would have thought that would be extremely unlikely.

1031
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 6: I thought the floor for this team was about seven

1032
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 6: and ten, with a ceiling of ten and seven, So

1033
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 6: they're about to beat that.

1034
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: The strength of schedule is, you know, generous.

1035
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 6: I think they had one of the top ten quote

1036
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 6: unquote easiest schedules. But you know, seeing the Rams and

1037
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 6: Broncos and forty nine Ers and Seahawks and Chargers and

1038
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 6: some of those teams on there, I figured, you know,

1039
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 6: at this point for them to be eight and two

1040
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 6: is pretty wild.

1041
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: But Jones, I mean, has.

1042
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 6: Also kind of exceeded even the most optimistic of our expectations.

1043
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 6: I think now, obviously the last couple of weeks have

1044
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 6: been had been pretty bumpy, but I was impressed with

1045
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 6: his ability to bounce back and make like the absolute

1046
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 6: clutch throws that needed to be made late in that game,

1047
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 6: because you know him kind of just turning into a

1048
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 6: pumpkin and just turning inside of himself, kind of like

1049
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 6: the Steelers game.

1050
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: If that would have happened last week, they I.

1051
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 6: Don't know that they win without those couple clutch throws

1052
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 6: that he made down the stretch.

1053
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: Jake Arthur of Lockdown Colts joining us on the Payless

1054
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: Leaguers Hotline. Jake, we talked about it in the last

1055
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: segment of the show, just kind of expectations going forward

1056
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: for the team there eight and two now at the buy.

1057
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: No one had that projected ahead of the season, so

1058
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: we're trying to see, like fan wise, what are expectations

1059
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: going forward, Like what level will they have to reach?

1060
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: If you're not to be disappointed, I said, a divisional

1061
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: round appearance at this point, not necessarily when, but getting

1062
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: the division round of the playoffs is where mine is.

1063
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: What would you say yours is?

1064
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1065
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 6: Absolutely, because the playoffs feel like a four round conclusion

1066
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 6: at this point, like they would have to have an

1067
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 6: epic meltdown and then so to go into wildcard weekend

1068
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 6: and lose, that would be a disappointment. Now, again, they

1069
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 6: exceeded expectations by essentially becoming a playoff team already, but

1070
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 6: that was the preseason expectations. For me, I'm a guy

1071
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 6: where expectations they need to be renewed every couple of weeks,

1072
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 6: you know, like what have you done for me lately?

1073
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 6: And this team has shown that they should be, you know,

1074
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 6: one of the top five teams in the league right now.

1075
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 6: So a first round exit would feel inexcusable at this point.

1076
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: I mean, luckily for them, I mean there's still a

1077
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 6: top to AFC standing, so they could control their own destiny.

1078
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: They could get that first round by and automatically get

1079
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 6: into the divisional round. They could get home field advantage,

1080
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 6: Like there's a lot they can do. You know, you

1081
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Speaker 6: beat Kansas City, You've got four division games left like that.

1082
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 6: That kind of stuff really sorts out tie breakers when

1083
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 6: you get to the nitty gritty. And of course they're

1084
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 6: tied with New England and Denver for that top record

1085
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 6: atop the AFC, so there is a lot they could

1086
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 6: do to really kind of grab a stranglehold.

1087
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: On the playoff. The ANFT playoff Road going through Lucas Oil.

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Speaker 1: Jake Garthur Lockdown Colts joining us here on the Fan

1089
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Morning Show. How concerns should we be with pass protection

1090
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: and the ability to hang on to the football in

1091
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: the pocket by Daniel Jones right now?

1092
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely concerning, but it's all

1093
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 6: correctable as well.

1094
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1095
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: I think now two weeks in a row, we've seen

1096
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 6: defenses are being super aggressive and bringing pressure, and oftentimes

1097
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 6: they're bringing more pressure than there are blockers. So Shane Stiken,

1098
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 6: two weeks in a row now has seen and admitted

1099
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 6: there's more he could do to put them in a

1100
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 6: better position, And whether they like it or not, I

1101
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 6: think they're going to have to go in heavier sets,

1102
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 6: even more twelve th and thirteen personnel, but keeping the

1103
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 6: most tight ends to.

1104
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: Block rather than go out on routes. But that's just

1105
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 3: going to have to be what they do.

1106
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 6: Because the pressure that was getting to Jones early in

1107
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 6: the season, I think they'll there were extra rushers coming,

1108
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 6: but the offensive line and Jones were responding to it

1109
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 6: better than they are now. So I just think that

1110
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 6: they're going to have to kind of suck it up

1111
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 6: and until they kind of prove to be able to

1112
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 6: pass those tests again, they're just going to have to

1113
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 6: kind of use the heavy personnel to counter that. I mean,

1114
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 6: they want to run out of that anyways. Also, but

1115
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 6: I do think that's concerning. And then as far as

1116
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 6: Jones and his law security goes, that's another thing. There's

1117
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 6: two weeks to take now where defenders know, if you

1118
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 6: get in the neighborhood of Jones, rather than go for

1119
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 6: the sack, you go and swat for that ball because

1120
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 6: he's holding it low and with one hand, and so

1121
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 6: that's very correctable for him. If he just tucks the ball,

1122
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 6: it is easier said than done, because I mean, it's

1123
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 6: kind of the way you carry the ball when you're

1124
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 6: escaping pressure is just kind of an instinct thing, like

1125
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 6: it's just how you escape. You're not really thinking about

1126
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 6: the ball security of it. All those things are correctable,

1127
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 6: but they're huge concerns as well. Like seven turnovers from

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00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 6: Jones in the last two weeks is absolutely wild because

1129
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 6: he'd only turned the ball over in like, what two

1130
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 6: three weeks leading into the whole thing.

1131
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: These last two weeks, so it's concerning.

1132
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 6: But the bye week came at the best time, because

1133
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 6: this is the worst we've seen them look all season.

1134
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 6: Even the loss to the Rams, they didn't look like this.

1135
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 6: So lots of reflecting and self scouting needs to go

1136
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 6: on here in this bye week.

1137
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Jake Garthur of Lockdown Colts on the Paylofts Liquers Hotline,

1138
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 2: we just talked just a little bit on it between

1139
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: the offensive line and Daniel Jones. So they're at the

1140
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: bye Jake, the one thing that change Stikeen and the

1141
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: coaching crew need to get evaluated the most and try

1142
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: to get fixed. If you only pick one thing that

1143
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: they work on, whether it's the offensive line, DJ's ball security,

1144
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: or is it something else, what would you chuck up

1145
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: as that needs to be top of the leaderboard. We

1146
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: need to get that fixed heading into the Chiefs game.

1147
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 6: I would say the protection because Jones ball security isn't

1148
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 6: as big of a deal if he doesn't have extra

1149
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 6: rushers coming at him, you know, So if they can

1150
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 6: figure out the pass protection stuff, it doesn't like it's

1151
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 6: looked pretty rough from the pass protection standpoint. But again,

1152
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 6: I think even all of us can see when there's

1153
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 6: pressure coming.

1154
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1155
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 6: There's some big secret thing defenses are doing to them,

1156
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 6: like they're showing pressure and then they're bringing it. So

1157
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 6: they're just going to have to have extra blockers in there,

1158
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 6: even guys like you know, Tyler Warren maybe chipping more often.

1159
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor's probably going to step it up a little

1160
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 6: bit in pass protection as well. He was lights out

1161
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 6: early in the year, but he's kind of had a

1162
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 6: couple of gas in pass protection. He's last couple of

1163
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 6: week too, But Moley, Cox and Drew will treat those

1164
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 6: guys are going to kind of have to be firmly

1165
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 6: planted on the line to help out.

1166
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: With pass protection because we've seen what.

1167
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 6: It looks like like with a clean pocket, Like the

1168
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 6: offense is unbelievable and was on a historic pace and

1169
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 6: even Sunday it went.

1170
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: Over five hundred yards. So you take care of.

1171
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 6: The pass protection, that in turn kind of cleans up

1172
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 6: Joanes issues as well, because even the interceptions, it's like

1173
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 6: when he's pressing too hard and trying to make a

1174
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 6: play that maybe isn't necessarily there, and then he's making

1175
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 6: a bad throw into heavy coverage. So I think you

1176
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 6: take care of all those things. Because the Colts' biggest

1177
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 6: issues this year. On the offensive side of the ball,

1178
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 6: they look unbeatable if they're not turning the ball over.

1179
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 6: So you take you clean up the pass protection a

1180
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 6: little bit, and I think everything else kind of falls

1181
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 6: in place.

1182
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: Jake, How healthy should the Colts be coming out of

1183
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: the buy? What are we looking at.

1184
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: It? It should be looking better.

1185
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 6: I mean, you hope to get Taekwon Lewis and Sampson

1186
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 6: Eddie Coom back because right now they're having to rely

1187
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 6: on Durrell and Shammy and JT. Twamloa as their next rushers,

1188
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 6: and that's not exactly what they would plan to have

1189
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 6: in place.

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Speaker 3: If you get those couple veterans back.

1191
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 6: Charvarius Ward, you know, should be back when when they

1192
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 6: returned from the by here against Kansas City, and that

1193
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 6: should look really, really interesting when you have Ward and

1194
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 6: soft Gardner together.

1195
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: Obviously, the forest.

1196
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 6: Buckner is a big hit no matter what way you

1197
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 6: look at it. Hopefully he is able to get back

1198
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 6: by week fifteen when he'll first be eligible out there

1199
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 6: in Seattle. But generally they are pretty healthy.

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00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 3: The guys that they do have out with.

1201
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 6: The exception of Buckner, I think should all be trending

1202
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 6: upward and they should be getting you know, a lot,

1203
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 6: a lot more complete the unit, especially on the defensive side.

1204
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: They've managed to kind of avoid big.

1205
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 6: Injury issues on offense so far, other than you know,

1206
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 6: the one off games with you know, Alec Petersmiths and

1207
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 6: with a concussion and things like that. But when they

1208
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 6: returned from the bias, I think they're going to be

1209
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 6: in pretty good shape.

1210
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: Jake, last one for me, what did you think of

1211
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner's debut with the Colts.

1212
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: I thought it was mostly good.

1213
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 6: You know, the obviously slipping on the two point conversion

1214
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 6: that kind of puts the spotlight on everything, But if

1215
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 6: you look at his game and totality, I thought he

1216
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 6: just carried a.

1217
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: Lot of weight just by being on the field.

1218
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 6: Him being out there kind of gives Loulian and Roumo

1219
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 6: the confidence to bring more pressure because he's got an.

1220
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: Elite cover corner out there.

1221
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 6: Atlanta was clearly trying to avoid him and move Drake

1222
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 6: London kind of.

1223
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: Out of his gravity a little bit.

1224
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 6: That's why they kept moving London into the slot, and

1225
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 6: most of London's big plays came when Atlanta got him.

1226
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: Away from Sauce. So when you got one.

1227
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 6: Really really high level cover.

1228
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: Corner out there.

1229
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 6: It's it really is invaluable to how it trickles down.

1230
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: To everything else in the defense.

1231
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 6: But now when you bring war back here in a

1232
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 6: couple of weeks, hopefully, if he's able to be back, defenses.

1233
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 3: Can't really do that.

1234
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 6: I mean, Gardner is still going to be the top corner,

1235
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 6: but they're gonna it's gonna be a lot harder to

1236
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 6: hide guys. So overall, I thought Gardner's play was really good.

1237
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 6: He kind of baited Penis into that one play on

1238
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 6: third down where he nearly had the interception. He felt

1239
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 6: pretty confident he was going to get a pick six,

1240
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 6: which being a physically gifted player is one thing, but

1241
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 6: Gardner seems to be the type of guy where he's

1242
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 6: able to play kind of chess while others are playing

1243
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 6: checkers a lot like Kenny Moore.

1244
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 3: Kenny Moore baits quarterbacks into a lot.

1245
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 6: Of mistakes, and it feels like Sauce is kind of

1246
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 6: of that same caliber. So you know, you keep Sauce

1247
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 6: out there and keep him healthy, and then when you

1248
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 6: get everybody else back, I think it's going to be

1249
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 6: a really really good defense.

1250
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us and getting up early, Jake. We

1251
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: appreciate it. People can get your podcast just about anywhere.

1252
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: Podcasts can be downloaded. It's locked on Colts and always

1253
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: fun to listen to you guys after a game as well.

1254
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: Absolutely, guys, thanks for having me.

1255
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: There is right there Jake Arthur. Who I thought when

1256
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: he called him up and got him on the phone.

1257
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: I thought Caleb was just I mean, he was just

1258
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: all over Oliver.

1259
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 4: Jake.

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Speaker 1: He was like, you were a blood. You were blushing

1261
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: when he answered.

1262
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: It's like when we have Pete Samson and Kevin gets old.

1263
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1264
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, man, I have a chance to be on

1265
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: this show and talk to some pretty cool people and

1266
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 2: other than you guys obviously, and so yeah, like I'm

1267
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 2: going to take the chance to say how great of

1268
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: a job Jake Arthur does. He's very good.

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00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you got Jake on the phone and

1270
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: you gave him thirty seconds of how wonderful he is

1271
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Speaker 1: and it was fun to listen to. So there you got.

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00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: No the Colts, they got some work to do, some scouting,

1273
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: as every team does during the bye week. That's just

1274
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: part of what you do there. You take a look

1275
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: back over your first in games, what do we like,

1276
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: what don't we like? What do we need to fix?

1277
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: And certainly there are a lot of things they need

1278
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: to fix along the offensive line, at least pass protection,

1279
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones is going to have to start taking

1280
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: care of the football better.

1281
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with Jake. I said Esterjay as well

1282
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: that I think the bye week is hitting out the

1283
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: absolute perfect time because you're starting to see some chinks

1284
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 2: in the armor with the offensive line and Daniel Jones.

1285
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: So now you can self scout, you can evaluate, look

1286
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: at the film over the last ten games, why was

1287
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: this working the first eight games? What has gone wrong

1288
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 2: in the last two games, and Shane Steichen and krue

1289
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: can help get those corrected and whatnot. And you're also

1290
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 2: going to get health on your side as well as

1291
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 2: you head into a huge game against Kansas City. Going

1292
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: off our previous conversation, real quick, Gabe chimed in, so

1293
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: how many times on the road has the Super Bowl

1294
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: gone through Kansas City? The Colts need to win to

1295
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: secure home field. Ballard knows that this year. That's why

1296
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: he's going to go all in with the trade, plus

1297
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: Jones on a cheap contract, not paying Pierce yet et cetera.

1298
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: We need to go all in on this season. I agree,

1299
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: get home field because it's either going to go through

1300
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: Kansas City or Buffalo. That's how it's been going the

1301
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: last few years. So take away one of those options

1302
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: if you can. If you're the Colts.

1303
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and going into this by week two, Jaguars are

1304
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: being hosting the Chargers. Chargers could put they could be

1305
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: they could be putting the Jaguars in a really big

1306
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: hole because if they if Jacksonville loses this game to

1307
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 1: the Chargers, they're five and five, and that means both

1308
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: teams will play ten games, and that's a three game

1309
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: advantage and you only get to play the Colts twice.

1310
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: Is it crazy that I would be if you know,

1311
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: if we're looking at the just divisionally, I'm more concerned

1312
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: about the Texans than I'm about the Jaguars, because I

1313
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: think if you get C. J. Stroud healthy and going again,

1314
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, I mean, we saw it just on Sunday,

1315
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: they went down their leg against Davis Mills. They I

1316
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: don't trust them against anybody anytime. So the Texans have

1317
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: at least been there, done that, and I think Siege

1318
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: Strode is obviously dealed Deeble with injuries and whatnot. But

1319
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: if they can get right a little bit, my concern

1320
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: is more with the tech is getting on a heater

1321
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: more than the Jaguars.

1322
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: Conversely, though, if out of nowhere the Typans when their

1323
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: second game of the year, the Texans would be almost done.

1324
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: They'd be four and six.

1325
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Texans are similar to the Ravens where they

1326
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: kind of put themselves in a hole where they can't

1327
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 2: really afford any more losses late in the season. The

1328
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: way is a hell of a situation to be in

1329
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: as you're just getting the double digits in the week

1330
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: and stuff. But they Yeah, the Texans still they have

1331
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: the Titans this week, then they're home against the Bills.

1332
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: That's not gonna be easy. They've also got the Colts twice,

1333
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: They've they're at the Chiefs, They've got they're at the Chargers,

1334
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: and they also have the Raiders and Cardinals on the schedule.

1335
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: So that is a brutal schedule for the Texans as well,

1336
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: where they can't really afford too many more losses. That

1337
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: is a tough road to hoe if you're the Houston Texans.

1338
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: You talk about home field advantage, too, and as much

1339
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: as we've been probably the Chiefs up this morning, should

1340
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: the Broncos get the home field victory against the Chiefs

1341
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: and Denver's a tough place to win altitude, All of

1342
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Chiefs are now three full games behind

1343
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: the Colts in the standings. I mean, you're starting to

1344
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: get you're starting to get into territory that's just really

1345
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: tough to make up.

1346
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were used to like the last few years

1347
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: where we're looking at, okay, if this team wins, and

1348
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: like we're starting to go through like the ten options

1349
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: that had to work for the Colts to make the playoffs.

1350
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: Now you're kind of like, Okay, how can we seed

1351
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: this better? Because now we're looking pretty good? How can

1352
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: we have a world that's a great point mark We

1353
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: come a long way. It's a nice change of pace. Okay,

1354
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: we need the Raiders to lose, but we need the Charger.

1355
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: You want to win.

1356
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: The Broncos and the Jets.

1357
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: You want to hear what thirty one teams are rooting

1358
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: for right now? Thirty one other teams are hoping that

1359
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: the Chiefs lose in Denver this week and then get

1360
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: upset by the Colts. The next week.

1361
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: That'd be huge. I mean, yeah, is that us.

1362
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: Now they're starting to get into big trouble at that

1363
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: point in time?

1364
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: Is that Broncos Chiefs game? Is that a primetimeral game?

1365
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: Oh jim, I think we got the Broncos and Chiefs going.

1366
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: I can already hear Romo in my head.

1367
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: Oh oh, he's shifting out wide watch this. Oh god,

1368
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: that was fun when I'm lasted, you know, the first

1369
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: first fee wh when.

1370
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: It was brand new to everybody. Yeah, and then there

1371
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: was like he's getting paid a lot of money not

1372
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: do his homework. No, apparently they've talked to him. He's

1373
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 2: getting a little better. But give me Greg Olsa all

1374
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: the time.

1375
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's check things down and tell you what's what.

1376
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: Right now, as we've been discussing all morning, the Cults

1377
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: are run a bye. They will play at Kansas City

1378
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: a week from Sunday. Hopefully they get real healthy there.

1379
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: We know DeForest Buckner is going to be out till

1380
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: at least week fifteen, but you hope to get some

1381
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: of the other guys back. Shavaria's Ward especially there and

1382
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: Taekwon Lewis would be nice to have him back as well,

1383
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: get some defensive line help there, but they've got another

1384
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: eight nine days to figure that out before they put

1385
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: a full game plan in. Shane Steike and talked about

1386
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: the struggles recently of Daniel Jones yesterday.

1387
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 5: I think he's been doing it a really good job.

1388
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 5: I mean we talk about moving the football up and

1389
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 5: down the field. I think obviously just having two hands

1390
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 5: on the ball in the pocket moving forward is a

1391
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 5: big part of it for us, and he understands that.

1392
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 5: But I they'll think he's been playing great for us.

1393
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 5: I mean he played yesterday. He did some really good things.

1394
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 5: Obviously a game winning drive there, hitting Tyler, h some big,

1395
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 5: big time plays. He had some big time scramble plays

1396
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 5: in that game to keep the chains moving. I mean

1397
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 5: third and twenty one there when we needed it, and

1398
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 5: he got it to fourth and two and obviously hit

1399
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 5: Tyler on the fourth you know, fourth and two there

1400
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 5: at the forty yard line to set up that. You know,

1401
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 5: the ty and field go to go to overtime. So

1402
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 5: you know, I think there's a lot of good there,

1403
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 5: a lot of good, and we just got to keep

1404
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: improving and getting better.

1405
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I will say about Daniel Jones.

1406
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: Despite the fact that he had trouble holding on the football,

1407
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: he did make some really nice plays and he did

1408
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: keep the offense moving. And I think he threw for

1409
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: about two hundred and fifty five yards if I'm not mistaken.

1410
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: So it wasn't you know, it wasn't all.

1411
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: Bad, no at all. Again, this is a great time. Now, Okay,

1412
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: he's kind of struggled last couple of weeks, Shane Steike,

1413
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: and let's correct these mistakes before they turn into you know,

1414
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: New York City Daniel Jones. Let's get these corrected, as

1415
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: we had in the strength stretch of the schedule as

1416
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: very very tough.

1417
01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 3: All right.

1418
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: The Cults are eight and two, tied for the best

1419
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: record in the NFL with the New England Patriots and

1420
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncs. Again, they're off this week. They played

1421
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: a week from Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs. Last night,

1422
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Philadelphia over the Green Bay Packers at

1423
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: lambeau Field, ten seven. The final score Saquon Barkley at

1424
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and one yards of total offense, but that

1425
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: was pretty much it. DeVante Smith did catch the one

1426
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: touchdown pass from Jalen Hurts and again the tush push

1427
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: succeeding because I don't know half the offense is allowed

1428
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: to go off sides and get a jump on the

1429
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: defensive line before the ball is snapped.

1430
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're ESPN, you're probably not loving these last

1431
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: two Monday Night games because if you're trying to convince

1432
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: YouTube TV to pony up and pay these money, the

1433
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: last two Monday Night games have stuck to high heaven

1434
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: and Eli and Peyton looked like they wanted to stab

1435
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,439
Speaker 2: their eyes out with what they were watching offensively because

1436
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: they had did you want to tell me that last night?

1437
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 2: I watched a little bit that Bob Iiger, the head of.

1438
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: Disney and the ABC and ESPN on last night.

1439
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: Talk about a self stroke, Because what the hell you

1440
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: had Bob Iger on and you're not going to ask

1441
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: them about the YouTube TV situation and all that. Boy,

1442
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: that's like, don't bite the hand that feeds you. I guess,

1443
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: but that was a complete, complete waste of time.

1444
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: All right. Also in the NFL, Joe Burrow returned to

1445
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: practice yesterday for the Cincinnati Bengals to open up his

1446
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: twenty one day window on when he could possibly come

1447
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: off the injured list, Oliver, don't count your chickens yet. Burrow,

1448
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: of course, effered a Grade three turf toe during Cincinnati's

1449
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: Week two win over Jacksonville. Had surgery on September nineteenth,

1450
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: and says his progress and the team's progress over the

1451
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: next few weeks will determine whether or not he plays

1452
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: again this season. So the door has been opened, but

1453
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: he's not ready to walk through it.

1454
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 2: Quit yet, boy, I don't know the way the Bengals

1455
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: that defense can't stop anything. I think I just kind

1456
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 2: of hold off on Joe Burrow because what are you

1457
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: going to throw them out there for? If the game's

1458
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: mean nothing?

1459
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for the NFL. The Pacers return

1460
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: to the floor tonight. They'll be in Utah to take

1461
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: on the Jazz eight thirty airtime with Mark Boyle and

1462
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: Pat Boylan. Nine o'clock tip off. Good news. TJ McConnell

1463
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: has been upgraded to questionable with that hamstring injury. So

1464
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: there's a possibility you could play tonight. If not tonight,

1465
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe the final game of their four game road trip.

1466
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see. Pascal Siakam, aaron NEI Smith,

1467
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: they're both off the injured list, and my goodness, are

1468
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: we getting I almost don't want to say it, but

1469
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: the Pacers might be.

1470
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: Getting a little bit of health. There might be light

1471
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel. We might be seeing

1472
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: some prayers answered here. We might see that we don't

1473
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: have to like, hey, who's on the G League now

1474
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: that we can figure out because they're getting very close

1475
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: to Nashville, the Noblesville Boom being the main roster at

1476
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: this point. So if you can get some guys healthy,

1477
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 2: some name recognition and all that, that is a good

1478
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: thing to see. Uh So, let's see what happens tonight.

1479
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Pacers need a much needed win. Can

1480
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: they get one tonight?

1481
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: I do want to go see the Boom play at

1482
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: some point.

1483
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: I do too. I need to get out there. That's

1484
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: the place looks to credible.

1485
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. It's a great

1486
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: way to go enjoy basketball. It sounds like to me, we.

1487
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: Saw commercial the other day and the girls like, are

1488
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 2: we gonna go to a game? Like we need to

1489
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 2: get out there. We need to get out there sometimes,

1490
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: so we will we will at some point.

1491
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: All right, A couple of NBA from last night at

1492
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: the Buzzer, Miami over Cleveland won forty one thirty eight

1493
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: in overtime. Andrew Wiggins gets the You think about it

1494
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: all the time. A defense is supposed to be ready

1495
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: for it. There's four tenths of a second left on

1496
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: the clock. There's really only one thing you can do. Mark,

1497
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: It's the alley oop. Guess what Miami got last night,

1498
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: uncontested the alley oop.

1499
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: Beautiful to Wiggins. That was a good one. That was

1500
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 2: a very good game. Also, Cade Cunningham of the Pistons, Yes,

1501
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: forty six points on forty five shots.

1502
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: Dude, Holy mo. Caleb and I could score forty six

1503
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: if we got forty five shots off. I mean that

1504
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: was just now. Neither one of us should ever get

1505
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: any shots off. But should we find a way to

1506
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: get forty five, you could forty six points on forty

1507
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: five shots. It is insane. I mean what somewhere Alan

1508
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: Iverson is like, that's crazy.

1509
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: There are other players on that team, right, It wasn't

1510
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: just what five on one like. I'm so confused is

1511
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: what the distribution was in that game.

1512
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up at it on my note,

1513
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 1: But also last night Dallas loses to Milwaukee, won sixteen

1514
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: to one, fourteen Cooper Flag great night, twenty six points.

1515
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: They lost a thirteen point lead though, and as they

1516
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: were losing that lead, when it got down to one,

1517
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: the crowd just started chanting, fire, Nico, It's Nico.

1518
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 2: Boy. He knew what he did though, So it's been

1519
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: rough though.

1520
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,439
Speaker 1: Last night in college basketball, Indiana State a winner over

1521
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: Southern Illinois Edwardsville sixty four to fifty five, and we

1522
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: had a texter. Let us know that SIUE as they

1523
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: are known, did make it to the NCAA Tournament last year.

1524
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: As you and I were talking about the fact that

1525
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: we didn't know anything.

1526
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: About No, I've heard of it, but didn't know.

1527
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: Also, tonight, Butler will host Chicago State seven pm up

1528
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: at Hinkle six thirty airtime. You can listen to it

1529
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: on ninety two point seven FM Fuego because we'll be

1530
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: running the Pacers game tonight. By the way, the Pacers

1531
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: broadcast starts at eight thirty, tip off comes at nine.

1532
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: Houston has moved past Purdue in the first in season

1533
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: top twenty five pole. Boiler Makers can try to do

1534
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: something about that when they play number eight Alabama on

1535
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: the road on Thursday, Indiana by the way at two

1536
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: and Oh will host Milwaukee tomorrow night down at Simon Scott.

1537
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: Are you at all interested in the pissing match between

1538
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 2: LSU and Brian Kelly and this, I am a little bit.

1539
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: I saw a little bit of that. It's it's kind

1540
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: of wild. They can't lose those lawsuits right as who's

1541
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: saying they fired Kelly for cause, so they're trying to

1542
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: avoid having to pay him the full fifty four million

1543
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: dollar buyout and Brian Kelly's saying, not so fast. I mean,

1544
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: my family need to eat. So they're gonna bring the

1545
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: lawyers in and all that and figure that out. But fascinating.

1546
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: Do you think the lawyers in Louisiana understand that just

1547
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: not having a superior record what you expect is not.

1548
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: Cause we didn't win the national championship. But this guy's

1549
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,959
Speaker 2: got to go. Is my gumball ready?

1550
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1551
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: They need to That is a blank show down there.

1552
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: Ian Kelly is such a clown. But I mean that

1553
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: they you agree to the contract, you got to pay

1554
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: him out. LSU. I know you don't want to, but

1555
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 2: I think I think the law is going to be

1556
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: on the side of Brian Kelly saying, you can't say

1557
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 2: for cause just because you lost a couple of games

1558
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 2: in the SEC.

1559
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: Well you can. You can find a way to argue

1560
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: about anything in a court of law, whether you're gonna

1561
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: win or not.

1562
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm investor. I want to see how it plays out.

1563
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to throw in, No, I think

1564
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about John Cena again last night.

1565
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: We can save that for later. Johnsen is the man,

1566
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: all right, coming up.

1567
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: At the moment. We'll talk a little bit more about

1568
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: the pacers starting to get healthy and the Colt's trying

1569
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: to get better and healthy themselves on a bye week.

1570
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: It's all straight ahead at ninety three five and one.

1571
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: Says some Brian Kelly vibes going. Is that why you're

1572
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: playing this love by? I love this song, but it

1573
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 2: seems to go hand and in with Brian Kelly and LSU,

1574
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: which I love. He was not born on the by You.

1575
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we've devoted way too much time to

1576
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: LSU and Brian Kelly.

1577
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 2: I'll listen to CCR but that is a great song.

1578
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, what's your favorite CCER song?

1579
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 2: Up around the bend? That guitarget's going I love that song,

1580
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: love that song. My favorite is uh have you ever

1581
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: seen the Ring?

1582
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: Now? That's my favorite, dude, you beat me to it. Anyway,

1583
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: It's the Fan Morning Show, not the five one or

1584
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: something five of the Fan. We've been talking about the

1585
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: Colts and the top tier of the AFC and where

1586
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: the Colts really stack up. And we're gonna find out

1587
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: as they come out of the bye and they play

1588
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: at Kansas City and then home against the Texans and uh,

1589
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: and then at Jacksonville at Seattle home against San Francisco,

1590
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: which is gonna be a big Sunday night game and

1591
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: that gets rough and it's you know, it's one of

1592
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: the tougher second half schedules in the NFL. And we'll

1593
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: find out what the cults are all about. And we've

1594
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: been talking about the fact that maybe there are no

1595
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: great teams this year in the NFL. No just like Rock,

1596
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: like the Chief Score two three years ago. Right there

1597
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: are some really bad teams in the NFL.

1598
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: Though right now they're taking a great bad teams.

1599
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you take a look right now at the

1600
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. They're one and eight, they got a rookie

1601
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: quarterback and they just they I can't seem to get

1602
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: it together anywhere. Is anybody worse? I know they're two

1603
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: and seven, But is there a worst team right now

1604
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: in the Nation FOOTA League than the New York Jets.

1605
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cleveland Brown's probably who just lost to them.

1606
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: I would say the Cleveland brown stink.

1607
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: They but the Jets just traded away two of their

1608
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: best defensive players.

1609
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: I know, but the Jets are also trying to tank,

1610
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: and the Browns still lost to them. The Browns are

1611
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 2: just Miles Garrett and just a bunch of dudes that

1612
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 2: they're just like hanging around.

1613
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: I would have said the New Orleans Saints, but all

1614
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Tyler Shuck looked pretty good against Carolina

1615
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: the other day and they won.

1616
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I could make the case for the Arizona Cardinals

1617
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: as well. You've kind of pulled the ripcord on Kyler

1618
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: Murray and Nolvison your rome with Jacobe Prisett, and they

1619
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: got man handled in Seattle. That game was over in

1620
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: the first half of the first quarter, so that was

1621
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: a brutal game too. There are some really truly bad

1622
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 2: teams out there. The Raiders doing Raiders things. But then

1623
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 2: the Giants. Of course, they just fired Brian Dable yesterday

1624
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: after they lost another fourth quarter lead when they lost

1625
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 2: to the Bears on Sundays. So another coaching change in

1626
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: the NFL. Well, yeah, there are some bad teams out there,

1627
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: but that also shows that the Colts have a chance.

1628
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 2: Like we've talked about before, the top three teams in

1629
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: the AFC right now and we're record wise are the Colts,

1630
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: the Patriots, and the Broncos. No one would have had

1631
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: that pegged. So the usual suspects kind of struggling a

1632
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: little bit. So now is the perfect season for the

1633
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: Colts to make some hay and they have through the

1634
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: first ten games. But as you said, Jeff, the sketch

1635
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: definitely ratchets up in difficulty, So that can they start

1636
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: showing that they belong in that upper tier of the AFC.

1637
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: Well, they don't play in the regular season this year,

1638
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: but maybe the rivalry is truly back on as we

1639
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: mentioned last week between the New England Patriots and the

1640
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: Indian Lapis Colts. If they would get together in the postseason.

1641
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: With that and right now, do you want that to

1642
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: happen with a little twinkle in your football eye, happen

1643
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 2: if you see a renewal of the Colts pace, I

1644
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: know I would. I actually don't want to see that.

1645
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. The Patriots have won seven

1646
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: games in a row.

1647
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: Huh.

1648
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: The Colts lost against Pittsburgh and struggled against Atlanta. Tough game,

1649
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: but they found a way to win. And Jonathan Taylor

1650
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: was fantastic. In my opinion, is the best player in

1651
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. Okay, I think that's a game

1652
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 1: that depends on where you play it. I really do.

1653
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: Right now, the New England Patriots, that's a good looking

1654
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: football team. Drake may is for real.

1655
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's legit at that moment, he's the best quarterback

1656
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: to come out of that class.

1657
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: He looks really good, and he's big, he's athletic, he's

1658
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 1: got an arm, and he's making really good decisions.

1659
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: I think it'd be fun. I'm gonna say I want it.

1660
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: I think it would right now. The NFL, if you

1661
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: take a look around, it does remind you the mid

1662
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 2: two thousands. You have the Seahawks, the Broncos, the Colts,

1663
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: the Patriots, the Chargers are in the mix.

1664
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: Even the Steelers are still in the Steelers are.

1665
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: In the first place. In their division and just beat

1666
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 2: the Colts. By the way, it's kind of cool. I

1667
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: like it. And then, yeah, the Patriots kind of have

1668
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: a cakewalk schedule, as we've discussed. I mean the Jets twice.

1669
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: Still they're at the Bengals, play the Giants, and they

1670
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 2: still have the Ravens, Dolphins, and Bills on there. But

1671
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: they have the two cake walks.

1672
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: The two teams missing from that era though, that are okay,

1673
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: not great, would be Green Bay in San Francisco.

1674
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: Well, Packers suck and they certainly sucked last night, so

1675
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that. And you said that, but

1676
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: they really do suck this year. Usually it's just me

1677
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: saying it. This year they actually do say they are

1678
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: not good. So Jordan Love looks lost. Matt Lafleur might

1679
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: be getting kicked out of Green Bay whether he wants

1680
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: to or not. So not great there. But yeah, again,

1681
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 2: this is a perfect time for the Colts to make

1682
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: hay in the AFC. Here here's the thing about the NFL.

1683
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: After two weeks, everybody's when the Packers beat the Commanders,

1684
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 2: everybody walks out of that game. Oh my gosh. The

1685
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: Packers are the front runners for the super Bowl, and

1686
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: that your bears Mark oh and two after two weeks,

1687
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: and how things have changed, and how things can change

1688
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: in the matter of a week, three weeks, five weeks.

1689
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: Whatever it is in this sport is always something I'm

1690
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: marvel at all.

1691
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: Right, coming up in a moment to what did change

1692
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: Stiken say about all the recent criticism of going for

1693
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: it and being too aggressive on fourth down all the time?

1694
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: We'll find out next at ninety three five and one

1695
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: oh seven five the fan, good morning up and at them.

1696
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: Maybe be on your way to work already. Some of

1697
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: you have been there for a while, Mark, you were here.

1698
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: Even though you're not producing, You're still getting here earlier

1699
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: than I am.

1700
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 2: That's driving me nuts. I wake up early. I just

1701
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 2: wake up early. I have the commute from Brownsburg on

1702
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: a daily basis, so I don't know if the road

1703
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: conditions are and all that. So I'm like, I'm getting

1704
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: into work to Caleb's up to and I bother him

1705
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 2: for a little bit and just make sure I get

1706
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 2: my mind right and ready to roll, get all the

1707
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: notes ready and whatnot.

1708
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: Well, Caleb doesn't realize after a couple of days of

1709
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: having to get up and get in here early is

1710
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: for the next several days after.

1711
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: You don't have to do this.

1712
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna wake up all of a sudden, like four

1713
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: in the morning.

1714
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: Yesterday. I was in here earlier to kind of get

1715
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: some stuff around because you know, big weekend and stuff.

1716
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: And I think my body was actually on that clock

1717
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: yesterday because I woke up an hour earlier than I

1718
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: was planning to this morning. Even on vacation days, I

1719
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 2: have I like I'll wake up in a panic, like,

1720
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: oh God, I'm like for the show. I'm like, oh wait,

1721
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: I'm off today. I forgot and I quickly go back

1722
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: to sleep.

1723
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: Text line open and running. You can also give a

1724
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: call anytime you want. The number is the same two, three, nine, ten, seventy.

1725
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: Either way, Indy finisher rights in. We have all the

1726
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: ingredients he's talking about the cults here for smash Mouth

1727
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: playoff football. Jones needs to just take care of the football.

1728
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: Let jt eat and our defense can avoid major injuries.

1729
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: This recipe can keep Mahomes on the sidelines. Well, let's

1730
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,839
Speaker 1: go back to Daniel Jones and taking care of the football.

1731
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: We talked to Shane Stiken or the media talk to

1732
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: me about that yesterday, He's not all that worried. Needs

1733
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 1: to put two hands on that. One thing that is

1734
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: starting to become a concern for a lot of fans, though,

1735
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: is this uber aggressiveness on fourth down when you could

1736
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: get three points and move on. That almost cost him

1737
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: against the Atlanta Falcons. People are getting upset about that.

1738
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 1: Shane Stike and addressing that question yesterday when talking about

1739
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: the win over Atlanta and the pension to just keep

1740
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:51,959
Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down.

1741
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 5: I understand that this is, you know, results driven on

1742
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 5: fourth downs, and I got a lot of faith in

1743
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 5: our guys going for those in those situations, and we've

1744
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 5: been pretty darn good at them all year, and obviously

1745
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 5: I think we're fifty percent or whatever it was yesterday

1746
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 5: on some of those. And credit to Atlanta, you know,

1747
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 5: they stopped us on those. But yeah, I do I

1748
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 5: feel good about it. And like I said, when I

1749
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 5: go for those situations, it does depend on the game situation,

1750
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 5: where it's at time on the clock, what the score is.

1751
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 3: When I do make those decisions.

1752
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear him out there, but I also

1753
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 2: feel like this is kind of like an epidemic going

1754
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 2: on in the NFL. Where well, the analytics tell us

1755
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: we should go for it on fourth and fourth, So

1756
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: we're just going to go for it.

1757
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: But what the analytics are saying that people don't talk

1758
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: about is when you do that and you can complete

1759
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: that at a certain percentage like the Colds again fifty percent,

1760
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: you end up scoring more points in the long run.

1761
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you're in games like you were against Atlanta,

1762
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: where you're you're on a neutral site, you cross your overseas.

1763
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just need to take the points. And if

1764
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: they would have kicked the field goal there, Granted, nothing's

1765
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 2: one hundred percent in the NFL, so maybe those kicks

1766
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: don't go in. But if they do go in, guess what,

1767
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 2: You're not going overtime against the Falcons. Yes, you pulled

1768
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: out a win, but you also would have avoided some

1769
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: overtime there and you could have just gotten the wind.

1770
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: So I like the aggressiveness. I like it when Ben

1771
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 2: Johnson does it. I like when Shane Seychin does it.

1772
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 2: But sometimes I don't know if there's another coach in

1773
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: their ear or anything they could say, like, maybe it'll

1774
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: just take the points here. I know what the analytics

1775
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: are telling you, Maybe just take the points here, and

1776
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 2: we'll trust our defense and take care of the ball

1777
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 2: on the other side.

1778
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: Nobody was complaining in the first part of the year, though,

1779
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: when they were just racking up fourth down victory at

1780
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 1: the fourth down victory and scoring on almost every position.

1781
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: That's true, But I also would say the last two

1782
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: weeks have been a bit of a different story than

1783
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: the first eight games. So I feel like the way

1784
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: your offensive line is played, I mean, Daniels Jones left

1785
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: with the bloody mouth, which could be a lot worse,

1786
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 2: especially the way he's getting hammered all of a sudden.

1787
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,959
Speaker 2: So time and place is always the thing, has always.

1788
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: Edut though that could be from you bit your lip

1789
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: where you're getting tackled or something.

1790
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 2: It's a few times so I think he did crash

1791
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 2: into the bench shoved in Falcon. Jeff, you do bring

1792
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 2: up a good point. I think it is important to

1793
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: remember that when the Colts, you know, in that Arizona

1794
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 2: game or in the Broncos game, had a couple fourth

1795
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 2: down aggressive plays, and you know, I think all this

1796
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: is is kind of a regression to the mean they

1797
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: were so successful on those fourth downs for the first

1798
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: part this year. Like you're not going to convert it

1799
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: every time. But I am going to side with Jeb that,

1800
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: like I do think in the long run it is beneficial.

1801
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I mean when people when they say

1802
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: the word analytics, what they're telling you is over long

1803
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: It's like going to a casino and playing blackjack. Right,

1804
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: if you play a certain way, you're going to win

1805
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: a certain percentage amount of the time over a long

1806
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: period of time.

1807
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 3: Right.

1808
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now you have to have in.

1809
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: That particular case, you have to have enough money to

1810
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: outlast the bank, which most people don't. But if you

1811
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: play a certain way, you can win over a long

1812
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: period of time. That's essentially what analytics and baseball and

1813
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: football are telling you that if you do it this

1814
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: way over the long haul, you're expected to have more

1815
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: wins because of it. That's what they're telling you now.

1816
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: In the moment. Sometimes I feel that this is a

1817
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: ballid argument as well. Sometimes you got to look at

1818
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: game flow. How's your offensive line doing against the defensive line.

1819
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: Sure it's worked in the last five games, but if

1820
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: your guys are getting the crap knocked out of them

1821
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: all day long, maybe it's not the best time to

1822
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth and one and a half.

1823
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: Right, you ever split tens in blackchack, that's like usually

1824
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: a no no.

1825
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: Usually if you split tens in black check, they are

1826
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: watching you very carefully because there's a reason you might

1827
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: be doing there's a reason you might be splitting tens,

1828
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying.

1829
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: I know I haven't been to the blackchackh table now,

1830
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: not that I would know anything about that, Mark, I

1831
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: haven't been at blackjack table in a while. But that's

1832
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 2: a good time. Shout out. Can we take a quick

1833
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: thirty seconds, real quick? Yeah, Happy Veterans Day? Although al

1834
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: out there, and uh also shout out because I'm on

1835
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: my Twitter timeline right now. Just popped up Pro Football

1836
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame just tweeted out Happy Veterans Day from

1837
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Marv Levy at one hundred years old.

1838
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: I love tweeting out a Happy Veterans Day. That is awesome.

1839
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: Lev He could get it done at one hundred.

1840
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: He could probably still come out. He could probably go

1841
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: coach the Giants for the rest of the year and

1842
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: have as much success as Dable's head.

1843
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 2: I bet he could still choose some players out at

1844
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: one hundred years old. He could be red rear ended

1845
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 2: and he could choose some players out, especially these days.

1846
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: I love Marv Levy. I need to know if you

1847
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 2: and Nick are like, is that your burner? Because it's

1848
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 2: always about the Packers sucking. They do suck. They were

1849
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: bad last night and I relished and that game was

1850
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 2: not fun to watch, but it was glorious to watch

1851
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: the false hope that Packers fans got where they're go,

1852
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, We've not been good for three whole quarters.

1853
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: They got a touchdown finally, and all of a sudden

1854
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 2: for some random reason, which I again check Nick Siriani's

1855
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: like FanDuel account because why he decided to go for

1856
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: it on fourth and six yesterday when the game looked

1857
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: like it was in hand boggled my mind. I don't understand.

1858
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: Was the analytics telling him to go for it on

1859
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: fourth and six? I don't know what that was about.

1860
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 2: But then you gave, you know, the Packers a breath

1861
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: of life. Packers fans false hope. Jordan Love's trying to

1862
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: scramble and score. They're trying to do get a last

1863
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: second field goal. They sent out their kicker and he

1864
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: kicks one of the most horrific kicks. I've ever seen

1865
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: a potential game tying kick when way left, way left.

1866
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: I think he hit a fan in the sands. That's

1867
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: how bad it was.

1868
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: I was watching somebody the other day too, had a

1869
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: punter that was just struggling, like ball was coming off.

1870
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 2: The other side of his foot. As a Giants punter.

1871
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to put the Bears away and he

1872
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: literally well he literally.

1873
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 2: Punted it off like his ankle and it went twelve yards.

1874
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: But he had a series of punts like that. It

1875
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: was like three or four in a row.

1876
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: He kept hanging his head and going to the sideline. Brother,

1877
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 2: you might not be on the sideline much longer. They

1878
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: might be Brian Dable. You're gonna go Brian Dable and

1879
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: go kick rock. He might have gotten lucky in that.

1880
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: He he got to go under the radar this week

1881
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: because they've all got fired and that's all they were

1882
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: thinking about. Yeah, he was, he was bad. Somebody said

1883
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: they split jacks at a bachelor party one time, but

1884
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 2: he hit on both but the last player busted and

1885
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 2: he said he thought the guy was gonna kill him.

1886
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, I can see that. Get out of there.

1887
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 2: Take your money and leave cash out while you can.

1888
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: Jeremiah, I'm just telling you the guy at third base

1889
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: that keeps screwing up and taking one more card. To

1890
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 1: some people, that's just more information you're getting.

1891
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,560
Speaker 2: Also, the the guys who wear the sunglasses of the

1892
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: black Chack table. I've never wanted to punch a person

1893
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 2: in my life, but I'm like, who do you think

1894
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: you are? You're not fooling anybody. How bad is your

1895
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 2: tel that you have to wear glasses might be a

1896
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: Shauncey Billups situation. I might be having cameras on the

1897
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: glasses somehow, and our casino's cracking down on that now,

1898
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: Like no glasses now, because now that you know there's

1899
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 2: the jackass in the World Series of Poker back in

1900
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 2: the day that had like the poker chip glasses. Now,

1901
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: Chauncey Billip says, X ray vision, I feel like you

1902
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: should be cracking down on the eyewear at the table.

1903
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean says, stop going for fifty three yard field goals.

1904
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: Your kicker already missed an extra point.

1905
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 2: Well, and that is Badgely's sting, right. He doesn't have

1906
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: that strong of a leg. And so I think when

1907
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: you get to that fifty yard mark, you think about

1908
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: going for it rather than kicking a field goal.

1909
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and here's the problem with kicking right now, people

1910
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: are like, well, maybe you go get another where where

1911
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: it's week ten, Where do you think the great kickers

1912
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: on the street are that you're gonna go get Because really,

1913
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: what you're hoping for is to bring somebody in when

1914
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: they had what last week when they when they signed him,

1915
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: not last week, but yeah, when they signed him because

1916
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: they lost their guy, they had like eight kickers in.

1917
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: It was a big kickoff, right, he was going to

1918
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: perform under pressure, competition, all those kinds of things. You're

1919
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: hoping to find a kicker that's hot right now because

1920
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 1: kickers are like golfers. Man, when that swing is going,

1921
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 1: it's smooth, you're driving it to the pin every time

1922
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: you're you're you know, you're hugging that that that flag

1923
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 1: all the time. And when you're just a little bit off, well,

1924
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: now you're putting for pars all the time instead of birdies. Right,

1925
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with kickers, Kickers getting that groove

1926
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: and you're just hoping to find somebody off the street

1927
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: that's in a groove. But if you now punt on

1928
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: a kicker, no pun intended there, But if you now

1929
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: punt on the kicker you have your second one of

1930
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: the year to go get a third one, are you

1931
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: really upgrading the position unless the guy has just been

1932
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 1: a disaster.

1933
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: Not really. And yeah, the loss of Spencer Trader is

1934
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: gonna is bigger than I think a lot of people thought,

1935
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: just because once you lose that consistency a kicker, you're

1936
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: really you're you're digging in the scrap heap. Because those

1937
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: guys that are available are available for a reason. So

1938
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 2: there's talking with Jake Moody, should we get him even

1939
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: though he was struggling in San Francisco That justin Tucker talk.

1940
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 2: I can't put that to bed fast enough because I

1941
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: think there's zero chance even if Badely continues to struggle

1942
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 2: that they are going to go down.

1943
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: That just Carlo Gordon is going to go sign him.

1944
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: Zero chance. Not only do they not want that pr nightmare,

1945
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,959
Speaker 2: but also I'm sorry, but I think just a team

1946
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 2: owned by daughters now and everything are not gonna watch

1947
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 2: what he's been accused of to be on that roster.

1948
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: I think there's zero chance that they would want that.

1949
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't think Shane Steichen wants that, and just the

1950
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: pr you built all this goodwill as a team, why

1951
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: would you want to bring in a headache like Justin

1952
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Tucker to just be a kicker that's going to be

1953
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 2: here temporarily because he noil Spencer Trader is going to

1954
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: get the job back once he's healthy next season.

1955
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: Chris Ah says, Hey, Jeff Blankenship is still looking for

1956
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: a job.

1957
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 2: That's true. He was in that kicking time competition.

1958
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: I thought we've seen that.

1959
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so badly. He's here for now. If you're going

1960
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: to a third kicker, I mean, things really have to

1961
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: go off the rails here. So I understand the chain

1962
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: is trusting badgerly. I think he has to at this point.

1963
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 2: They don't really have any other choice. But I guess

1964
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: if you were going to make a move, it would

1965
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 2: be at the bye week. I just don't see that happening,

1966
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: And I think they're going to write it out because

1967
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: the only other proven guy out there is Justin Tucker,

1968
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 2: and you do not want that headache, all right?

1969
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,480
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment, we'll talk more about the Pacers.

1970
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Alex Golden's schedule to come on next, Is that correct?

1971
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 4: Mark?

1972
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1973
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: Get a little pacers talk looking forward to that they're

1974
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 1: getting healthy? How healthy? And will it help? We'll talk

1975
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: next to Alex Golden on ninety through five and one

1976
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: seven five. This has got me up and running a

1977
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: little up beat here. I like this one. What do

1978
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 1: you got for me here?

1979
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 2: Caleb? My type by Saint Motel pretty good?

1980
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: I like it. Mark, I'm telling you man, seat's getting

1981
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: sea's getting warm.

1982
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Over there again. It's been fun. I'm assuming I'm gone

1983
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: after this show is over, because I will be out

1984
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: of a job. Caleb has taking it, which is all

1985
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 2: respect to him. You're listen. You put out a whole

1986
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 2: card Twitter. I hope the key card works when I leave.

1987
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: Can I at least get out of here without having

1988
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: pay for park?

1989
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 1: We're expecting Kevin back tomorrow, Kevin's Thursday. James back tomorrow,

1990
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you.

1991
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 2: Caleb will take over and I'll hang my hat and

1992
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 2: you know, start applying for jobs elsewhere.

1993
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: You think we'll have really any great road tales from

1994
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Berlin from James, I hope.

1995
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 2: So I need to hear what the hotel was like.

1996
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 2: I need to hear about the the food.

1997
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: He was eating then he you know, extra curricular and

1998
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: nighttime activity. Yeah, the German folk did, They did, the

1999
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: ladies like James Boyd in his suit, he looked pretty

2000
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: dapper out there. So plenty of Berlin stories. I hope

2001
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: to hear from mister James Boyd tomorrow when he returns it.

2002
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: I've spent some time in Europe, but not Germany yet.

2003
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to the fan uh hotline right now, brought

2004
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 1: to you by Payless Liquors. And on that Payless Liquers

2005
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: hotline we have Alex Golden of course setting the Pace

2006
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: podcast does a great job of covering the Indiana Pacers.

2007
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: And have you ever been to Europe or Germany?

2008
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 4: Alex, No, I don't even have a passport. To be

2009
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 4: honest with you, I've never left the country.

2010
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Okay, there's look, there's nothing wrong with that, I get it.

2011
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: Would you like to go? Is the question? I thought

2012
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: you would have gone to France to watch the Pacers

2013
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: last year.

2014
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 3: No.

2015
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 4: I mean if I don't work, if I didn't work

2016
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 4: a normal job, you know, like a six to five

2017
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 4: PM job, and I would I would consider doing that

2018
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But no, I just I mean, yeah,

2019
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 4: one day right now, not necessarily. I'm just more of

2020
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 4: a I'm a homebody, but you know, I don't mind traveling.

2021
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 4: I just never really did much of it growing up.

2022
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: So you got a little one too, you got to

2023
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: stay home and take care of it. So yeah, that's

2024
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 1: how that goes. Alex Golden joining us here. As I

2025
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: said on the Payloss Liquors hot line, are we getting

2026
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: a little bit healthy for the Indiana Pacers at the

2027
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: end of this road trip here?

2028
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 4: I mean Tij McConnell was upgraded to questionable, Andrew and

2029
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 4: hard return, so it looks like we are getting a

2030
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 4: little bit healthier, which you know, you can't wish that

2031
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 4: to not happen because I know there's a lot of

2032
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 4: fans wanting the Pacers to just kind of take this

2033
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 4: year off and get a high draft pick. But I

2034
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 4: think for the development of this team of young players,

2035
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 4: you need your point guards back. You need to get

2036
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 4: healthy to kind of see what you have moving forward.

2037
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 4: So hopefully TJ is able to play soon. I don't

2038
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 4: know if it'll be tonight or not, but seeing him

2039
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 4: upgraded from out the questionable after being out a month,

2040
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 4: I think that's a good sign.

2041
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 2: Alex. Besides you know, it's been a gut punch start

2042
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 2: to the season for the Pacers, But what has been

2043
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 2: the bright spot If you can find one, what has

2044
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: been the bright spot of the season despite just a

2045
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,839
Speaker 2: horrific start.

2046
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 4: That's a good one bright spot. I think that we've

2047
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 4: seen a little bit of development from Isaiah Jackson at

2048
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 4: the five. I think that'd be one thing I've noticed.

2049
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 4: He really had a breakout game the last time the

2050
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 4: Pacers played the Warriors, the one that actually won that game.

2051
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 4: He had a really good second half, played really good

2052
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 4: against Milwaukee, So I think we're slowly starting to see

2053
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 4: him get back to form. I would say Jarris Walker

2054
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 4: has had some ups and down so far, but good

2055
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 4: to see him getting some opportunity. And then of course

2056
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 4: Pascal just proving that he can be that one a

2057
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 4: level player and really put your team in a spot

2058
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 4: most nights to be at the you know, at the

2059
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 4: end of the game with a chance to win it.

2060
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 4: So you know, there's not a lot of bright spots

2061
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 4: in this one, but that's kind of where I'm looking

2062
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 4: at my bright spots.

2063
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've kind of gone with, like I try to

2064
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 2: pay a picture of Pacers positivity. That's a lot of peas, right,

2065
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: I just said there, But I try to pay in

2066
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of positivity because I said, you know,

2067
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: these are players getting minutes that normally wouldn't have gotten

2068
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 2: the amount of minutes they had even without Tyreez Haliburton,

2069
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 2: but if they didn't have the litany of injuries that

2070
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 2: they've had. So maybe that's a bright spot. The Carlisle

2071
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: and the rest of the coaching staff are like, Okay,

2072
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 2: well we're seeing some people what thing you bring to

2073
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: the table? Can they be around past this season when

2074
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 2: Tyreek gets healthy and we potentially get a high lottery

2075
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 2: pick going and all that are these are these I

2076
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: feel like that's positivity where we're seeing what guys can

2077
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: do and how they can possibly be role players going

2078
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 2: forward once this team gets back to full strength.

2079
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's definitely true. I just think that

2080
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 4: with how hurt you've been at the point guard spot,

2081
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 4: it really has impacted a lot of players because so

2082
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 4: much of this team is, you know, predicated on point

2083
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 4: guard play, and when you're down your three point guards

2084
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 4: from last year and you're actually playing some games out,

2085
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 4: even quitting Jackson, who actually would have been a bright

2086
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 4: spot as well that I should have mentioned. You know,

2087
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 4: it's like you're playing ray J Dennis and you're playing

2088
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 4: Ben Shepherd at the one you finally you bring in

2089
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 4: Monte Morris, but at the same time you getting them hardback.

2090
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 4: So now you actually have point guards quote you know,

2091
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 4: quotes point guards out there on the floor to kind

2092
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 4: of get guys set up, because with so many guys

2093
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 4: playing at a position, you know, Jay Huff playing before

2094
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 4: should never really be a thing. It's just you're you're

2095
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 4: kind of like trying to figure out how do I

2096
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 4: actually evaluate these players when they're playing so at a

2097
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 4: position and not with the normal rotation. So yeah, you're

2098
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 4: seeing them take on bigger roles, but like at the

2099
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 4: same time, you're not really saying how they would impact

2100
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 4: your team moving forward in my personal opinion.

2101
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 1: So as they are starting to get a little bit healthier,

2102
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: what's your assessment of the center position, which seems to

2103
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 1: be a bit of a crap shoot through the first

2104
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 1: part of this season, Like where are we at there?

2105
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's not great if you're asking

2106
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 4: me personally, I think Isaiah Jackson has solidified himself as

2107
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 4: the best of the three that they have I think

2108
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 4: Tony Bradley's probably been the most consistent through the first

2109
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 4: ten games. Jay Huff has had a really good game

2110
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 4: against Brooklyn, had a decent game against Golden State, but

2111
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 4: other than that, I haven't been overly impressed with Jay Huff.

2112
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 4: So I think right now, from how I look at

2113
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 4: this Pacer center rotation, I think you have a really

2114
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 4: good backup center for the future in Isaiah Jackson, and

2115
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 4: then a third string center in neither Jay Huff or

2116
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 4: Tony Bradley. You're still missing that long term starting center piece. Now.

2117
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to rule Isaiah Jackson out because with

2118
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 4: a healthy guard rotation, could he look a little bit

2119
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 4: better potentially, But I just think that right now there's

2120
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:40,759
Speaker 4: a lot to be desired there at the center position,

2121
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 4: and they just they haven't got enough consistency or production

2122
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 4: out of that spot.

2123
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah we are. This is my favorite part of the show.

2124
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: Oh boy, evn't just came in with cluster truck.

2125
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Kevin.

2126
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Sorry you're on the phone today, Alice. You got to

2127
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: come in and join us on one of these days,

2128
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: and just talking about the Pacers finishing up the road

2129
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: trip here just one win so far, is is there

2130
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: a possibility for win before they come home. Now that

2131
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,520
Speaker 1: they're getting a little bit healthy, what's their best shot.

2132
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,520
Speaker 4: I mean probably tonight against Utah, right, I mean, Siakam's

2133
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 4: going to be playing. He's healthy, niet but it's going

2134
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 4: to be playing. He's healthy, them, heart's healthy. McConnell's questionable.

2135
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 4: So you're starting to get your guys back. I think

2136
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 4: getting Matron back at some point will be big, just

2137
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 4: to get you another scorer out there. But I think

2138
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 4: this is a game they can win. It's not like

2139
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 4: Utah is great. I think they've won three games this year,

2140
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 4: had a close win against Boston. They beat the Clippers

2141
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 4: who've been really struggling this year in the Suns in overtime.

2142
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 4: So it's not like they're a great team. And here's

2143
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 4: what I'll say for any Pacer fan like that is

2144
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 4: trying to find positivity with this team. Though. The best

2145
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 4: way to kind of look at this season I'm doing

2146
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 4: it this way is in ten game increments. Okay, you

2147
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 4: started out one to nine, What do you do over

2148
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 4: the next ten games? Can you find yourself being seven

2149
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 4: and three over the next ten games, and now your

2150
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 4: record's eight and twelve, You know that looks a lot

2151
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 4: better than one and nine. So I would just say

2152
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 4: it's a long season. There's opportunities to win some games

2153
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 4: coming up here. You know, Detroit's on the schedule a

2154
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 4: couple of times. They're really banged up. They have been

2155
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 4: playing really good basketball. But you've got some other teams

2156
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 4: that are beatable in this upcoming schedule as you're getting healthier.

2157
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 4: So for fans that are looking for this team to

2158
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 4: make the playoffs or maybe make the play in that

2159
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 4: is kind of your your road to kind of like

2160
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,080
Speaker 4: watching this team and like perceiving this team is, hey,

2161
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 4: let's watch this in ten game increments. Because with the NFL,

2162
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 4: you know, every week it's like, oh, win or lose,

2163
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 4: it's a big deal. But in NBA there's so many games.

2164
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: I think it's better to look at it as like

2165
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 4: a ten game stretch versus day to day.

2166
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try that with my wife and like I

2167
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 2: I know I had a rough summer, but let me

2168
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: let me rebound in the fall. I promise you I'm

2169
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 2: not as big of a jackass as I appear. We'll

2170
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 2: see if.

2171
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 4: That's not a bad idea. I mean, and I hope

2172
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 4: your marriage a little bit.

2173
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: It sounds like something's on top of March's mind right now.

2174
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: Well, I actually left the house door unlocked this morning

2175
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 2: before I left. Some life say you'll have the house

2176
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 2: door open, Like, oh, that's not ideal.

2177
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: Living in the mean streets of Brownsburg too.

2178
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 2: Probably Alex Golden of setting the pace joining us on

2179
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: the Payless Leakers highline. Alex talked about this a bit

2180
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,600
Speaker 2: earlier again when I was when I was spitting my

2181
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 2: Pacers positivity, but it went under the radar because we

2182
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 2: were in the heart of the NBA Finals and all

2183
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: that stuff. We saw a trade by the Pacers and

2184
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 2: the Pelicans, and we're kind of like, well, that seems

2185
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 2: a little weird in the middle of the finals, But

2186
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: looking back on it, like how big is this now?

2187
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:13,799
Speaker 2: Looking in hindsight of this trade that the Pelicans acquired

2188
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 2: the pacers twenty twenty five first round pick, but then

2189
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: the Pacers reacquired their twenty twenty six first round pick,

2190
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: which was lost. They're in the Siakam trade now with

2191
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 2: Haliburton gone, Turner gone, that seems like that is going

2192
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 2: to come up huge given the state of the Pacers

2193
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 2: right now, Like we're looking at lottery picks and all that.

2194
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: Just talk about that pick that they reacquired.

2195
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean it's massive. It's honestly, like probably one of

2196
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 4: the best moves that Kevin Pritchard's made in his tenure.

2197
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 4: And it is on accident. Right, It's like, you look

2198
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 4: at this team right now and the way things are

2199
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 4: kind of playing out, Like if this team ends up

2200
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 4: really falling apart, you can't stay healthy, and they end

2201
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 4: up getting into the lottery and they're a top three pick,

2202
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 4: like wow, Like that could be a franchise changing pick.

2203
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 4: That is a you know, a star next to Tyre

2204
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 4: Salbert for the next decad, right, Like, that's how big

2205
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 4: of a pick this could become. Now, if they start

2206
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 4: winning games and the pick starts to lose its value

2207
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 4: when it kind of falls down into like that six

2208
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 4: to ten range, you could still get a very good

2209
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 4: player there, or you could use that pick as a

2210
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,559
Speaker 4: massive trade asset to go out there and shure up

2211
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 4: your roster. I think obviously, like I just mentioned, with

2212
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 4: the center rotation, they don't have a starting center on

2213
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 4: the roster in my personal opinion for the future, they

2214
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 4: could use that pick to go out there and get

2215
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 4: a center, and maybe there's a guy out there that's

2216
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 4: available and a team willing to move off of somebody.

2217
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 4: So I just think that it gives you so much

2218
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 4: more flexibility with how you build this roster moving forward.

2219
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 4: And if there's a guard out there that's really talented

2220
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 4: that happens to be in that top ten range, you

2221
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 4: get them on a rookie scale contract. Maybe you don't

2222
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 4: have to spend all your money paying Master and niece

2223
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 4: Smith and Theimhart all these guards that are coming up, Haliver,

2224
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 4: and like, that's a lot of money you've invested into

2225
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 4: the guard rotation. Now you look at maybe we can

2226
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 4: go out there and get somebody on that rookie scale

2227
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 4: contract that could give us similar to you know, good

2228
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 4: production as some of the players already. So I just

2229
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of flexibility with it. But yeah,

2230
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 4: getting that pick back, I mean the Pelicans, I know

2231
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 4: they're wearing a lot of egg on their face for

2232
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 4: what they did with the trade with the Hawks to

2233
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 4: give them their first round pick, but for some reason,

2234
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 4: the Pelicans, I mean, the Pelicans gave their unprotected pick

2235
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 4: this year to the Hawks. I mean, if they are

2236
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 4: terrible and the Pasers are terrible. The Hawks and the

2237
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 4: Pacers could have two top three picks and that could

2238
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 4: have all been to the Pelicans, which is just kind

2239
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 4: of crazy to think about hindsight.

2240
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: The Pelicans doing dumb things that shocks me.

2241
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 4: I know, they're one of the most poorly run organizations

2242
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 4: in my in my tenure that has been covering the Pacers.

2243
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 4: I just when I saw that Joe Dumars was going there,

2244
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 4: I said, oh, this is not feel like a great

2245
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 4: a great hire in my opinions, whenever you get a

2246
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 4: new GM, they want to make big moves. And I

2247
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 4: know Derek Queen's a very talented player, don't get me wrong.

2248
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that he pans out for them, but the

2249
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 4: Zion thing has been a mess. He can't stay healthy,

2250
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 4: can't get in shape, all that stuff. And yeah, I

2251
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 4: don't know what's gonna happen with the Pelicans, but I

2252
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 4: would just hate to be a fan of that fan

2253
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 4: base because there's just nothing really.

2254
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: To cheer for Alexis. And then, guy, what'd you think

2255
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: of Kate Cunningham scoring forty six points last night on

2256
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 1: forty five shots.

2257
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think I think he had thirty one

2258
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 4: misses as well, which is the most missed field goals

2259
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 4: in a game going all the way back to nineteen

2260
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 4: sixty seven. So you know, honestly, if you look at

2261
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 4: the roster that the Pistons had out there, like eight

2262
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 4: of their top ten guys are out so it kind

2263
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 4: of felt very Pascal Siakam esque with the guys he's

2264
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 4: been playing with, and so I kind of understand why

2265
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 4: they need a k to shoot so much. I mean, yeah,

2266
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 4: it wasn't a great production, but at the end of

2267
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 4: the day, they get to win an overtime against the

2268
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 4: Wizards team that was really scrapping and fighting for that one.

2269
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 4: So there's a fun game down the stretch. Kate's a

2270
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 4: really good player. I mean, what are the Pistons down

2271
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 4: nine and two? Like, they're playing incredible basketball, and Kate

2272
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,640
Speaker 4: Cunningham is a special player. But yeah, I just with

2273
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 4: a lot of shots. But I mean, at the same point,

2274
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 4: who else do you want taking them? I mean I'd

2275
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 4: rather k to be missing and taking tough shots and

2276
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 4: having somebody else take him and miss him. So I

2277
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 4: don't hate that he was aggressive, but yeah, it's the

2278
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 4: third most field goal attempts we've seen in the last

2279
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 4: ten years behind Kobe Bryant's fifty and twenty fifty and

2280
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 4: then last year Jalen Brunson out of forty seven too

2281
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 4: goal at Temn Games. So it's a rare thing to see.

2282
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 4: But you know, Kate Cunningham putting the shots up, by.

2283
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: The way, the night that Kobe scored eighty one, he

2284
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:11,759
Speaker 1: was twenty eight of forty six.

2285
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was you know, prior to ten

2286
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 4: years ago. So it's crazy. You don't see forty six

2287
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 4: shots a lot. That's a lot of shots. I mean

2288
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 4: that's probably close to forty forty five, forty six percent

2289
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 4: of what they actually took as a team. So that's

2290
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 4: that's the guy putting the ball on the up a lot.

2291
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm sure his arms are tired today.

2292
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 4: I'm sure mine would be it by shot that.

2293
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: Mnuch somewhere somewhere. Alan Iverson is like, man, that's crazy.

2294
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Forty six shots. Even AI thinks that's great.

2295
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, leg day for Kay Cunningham. Today day no

2296
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 2: ORMs Alex.

2297
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you man. Thanks for putting up

2298
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 1: on our nonsense.

2299
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 4: We appreciate it, all righty guys, thanks so much for

2300
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 4: having me on. We'll talk soon.

2301
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 1: Thanks brother, Alex Golden. Setting the Pace does a great

2302
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,719
Speaker 1: job covering the Pacers. You can listen to his daily podcast.

2303
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: I listened to his podcast coming into work quite often.

2304
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,879
Speaker 2: In Fox you do a great job. Been on there before.

2305
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 2: There is a fun show, so they do a great job.

2306
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: I can't figure is Fauci is he here? Is in

2307
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: New York? I don't know where he's at after?

2308
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 2: We should ask Alex. I don't know. I the time

2309
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 2: I was on, we did a zoom call, so I

2310
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,639
Speaker 2: think everyone was everywhere, So I'm not sure exactly that.

2311
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: Had you on for a zoom call.

2312
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 2: Well, I did an interview with them. I was on

2313
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 2: as a guest, but we did yeah, zoom call links

2314
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: or whatever. So that's the way it works. That's how

2315
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 2: we do it. That's a beautiful thing of twenty twenty five.

2316
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 2: You'd have to be in the same studio. It can

2317
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 2: be often wherever. We talked to James in Berlin yesterday.

2318
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 1: Caleb, you're you're one whisker away from being a guest

2319
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 1: on Setting the Pace.

2320
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on, now I can talk Pacers basketball.

2321
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 2: I would love that. That'd be great. I mean, we

2322
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 2: talked about that that trade that they did make. It

2323
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 2: went under the radar during the finals because obviously we

2324
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 2: were like, what the hell, We're in the middle of

2325
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 2: the finals. We were paying attention to trades. But I

2326
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 2: mean that is looming large that they reacquired their twenty

2327
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 2: twenty six first round pick, because you imagine if they

2328
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: didn't have it and the season was going the way

2329
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 2: that it is, you'd be like, oh boy, I wish

2330
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 2: we had that right now. So I'm glad you guys

2331
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 2: brought it up. Doing busy this with the Pelicans usually

2332
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 2: works out in your favor. It's a win. Yeah, it's

2333
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:04,679
Speaker 2: a good job.

2334
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 1: There's a line usually every other GM in the league

2335
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 1: is like, no, I'm here first.

2336
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 2: Joe Dumars, can you pick up the call? Yeah? That

2337
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 2: was That is going to be a huge trade, and

2338
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: I agree that is probably one of the best under

2339
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 2: the radar moves that Kevin Pritchard has made in his tenure.

2340
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: But great by them because that's gonna be big time.

2341
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm having a really difficult time

2342
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 1: concentrating and getting ready for the checkdown. Oh God, is

2343
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: that because Evan during that interview brought in the truck board.

2344
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: I know, I I I When did you switch it up?

2345
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,600
Speaker 1: I switched it up a little bit. I did not

2346
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 1: do the Korean and.

2347
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:39,839
Speaker 2: I was excited.

2348
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 3: You heard.

2349
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 1: I heard that was a big deal. I do like

2350
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: other things.

2351
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they of Jeff Ricker get really going.

2352
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 1: I think I got the chicken apple wood salad this week.

2353
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay, just looked really good to me because I

2354
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: eat breakfast at like five o'clock in the morning.

2355
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 2: He's like like a like a like a dog, like

2356
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 2: a tramp dog that's out on the streets and he

2357
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 2: sees that Korean beef and broccoli and he's like, this,

2358
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 2: this is is Spaghetian meatballs. Where's this lady in the

2359
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 2: tramp here? Everybody's got there little It smells immaculate when

2360
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 2: you bring it in. So shout out to Evan. Yes,

2361
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 2: what for today?

2362
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 1: I did?

2363
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 2: What did I do?

2364
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 3: Oh?

2365
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: I did the Belgian waffles and everything. Kayleem. Breakfast burrito

2366
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 2: recommended to me by Mark. So I wasn't sure what

2367
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 2: to get. Yeah, he said, what do you recommend? I'm like, honestly,

2368
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: and this is the honest got troop. I've never had

2369
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 2: a bad meal from him. So you can pick from whatever.

2370
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 2: Their Their breakfast items are good, their burgers are good,

2371
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 2: their chicken stuff's good. I mean, it's all great. So

2372
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,320
Speaker 2: I think they have the I just should check their

2373
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 2: website where they have the two pounds of chicken tenders

2374
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 2: going on, or at least they did last week. We've

2375
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: done that before, especially during March madness. It is all

2376
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 2: excellent by them. So shout out to Evan and Cluster Truck.

2377
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it could threaten to wreck me because I

2378
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 1: try to have I try to have a pretty good

2379
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 1: breakfast at home in the morning to get started right,

2380
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 1: try to have a lighter lunch throughout the day, and

2381
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: then and early like five five point thirty dinner that's

2382
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: got some substance, and then don't eat again for twelve hours.

2383
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:09,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of my schedule. But man, I'm not gonna lie.

2384
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: They'll be like times it's eleven o'clock, twelve o'clock, I haven't eaten.

2385
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I should just wreck it all and

2386
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: just get whatever I want on Cluster Truck.

2387
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. No, I live once, ball out

2388
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 2: a little bit.

2389
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: I've already been there. All right, let's check it down

2390
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 1: right now. Culture run to buye. They will play at

2391
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City a week from Sunday, hoping to get a

2392
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 1: little bit healthier. We know that DeForest Buckner will not

2393
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 1: be around until at least week fifteen, but maybe Travarius Ward,

2394
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 1: from what it sounds like, could be coming back by then.

2395
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 2: Sounds like that would be nice too. Get some healthy

2396
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 2: bodies on the Colts in the secondary and everything. Oh,

2397
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 2: that'd be a huge help, especially with the Chiefs next up.

2398
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Colts are eight and two. They are tied with New

2399
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 1: England and Denver for the best record of the NFL.

2400
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: They still have the best point differential four points allowed

2401
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 1: in points scored at plus one thirteen, so they are

2402
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: looking pretty good despite a loss against Pittsburgh two weeks

2403
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: ago and a struggle to win in overtime in Berlin

2404
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: against Atlanta. But you know what, I think that win

2405
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,439
Speaker 1: against Atlanta may turn out to be long term, more

2406
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: of a gut check. I think that's the kind of

2407
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,240
Speaker 1: thing where they kind of broke away from Daniel Jones

2408
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 1: that had a little bit of trouble holding onto the football,

2409
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 1: just turned it over to Jonathan Taylor and he did

2410
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: his thing. Man, he did.

2411
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 2: He is having an MVP like season again, Jonathan Taylor

2412
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 2: has been the guy you want to strap to a

2413
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 2: rocket to and just ride him into the end zone.

2414
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 2: And that's what he's been doing because I don't Again,

2415
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 2: he's had multiple three touchdowns score games. So ride the

2416
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 2: hot hand of Jonathan Taylor if you can, because he's

2417
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 2: getting done for them all right.

2418
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 1: Last night, Monday Night football, the Philadelphia Eagles over the

2419
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field ten to seven. I

2420
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 1: know you are very disappointed in that result, so heartbroken

2421
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley at one hundred and one total yards in

2422
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 1: a defensive struggle. The big highlight being played all over

2423
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 1: social media today is not any of the touchdowns of

2424
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:01,560
Speaker 1: the two touch stones that were scored. It's about the

2425
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles clearly moving off sides on a tush push

2426
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 1: which was not called off sides.

2427
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, I don't know what the fix is for this,

2428
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 2: because I don't think it needs to be banned because

2429
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, it is a play in football,

2430
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 2: just try to stop it. But referees also have to

2431
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, we need to be watching this even

2432
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 2: closer than we are, because if they're blatantly jumping off

2433
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 2: and doing false starts but not getting penalized for it.

2434
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,639
Speaker 2: Then no wonder it's so successful all the time because

2435
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:30,759
Speaker 2: the defense can't react fast enough because they're getting alignment

2436
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:32,839
Speaker 2: in their face before the balls even snapped.

2437
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: All right, So that was Monday Night Football last night.

2438
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,879
Speaker 1: One other NFL note, Joe Burrow showed up to practice

2439
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals coming off toe surgery several weeks ago.

2440
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,559
Speaker 1: After Week two, says, depends on how the team does

2441
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 1: and how I progress over the next three weeks about

2442
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 1: whether or not he'll play again this year. They have

2443
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 1: now started his twenty one day window where he can

2444
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,599
Speaker 1: practice with the team without coming off of the injured list.

2445
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Their schedules at Pittsburgh home against the Patriots at Baltimore.

2446
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 2: Those are the next three games for them. I think

2447
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 2: they're winning any of those three.

2448
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 1: But if they do, you want Joe Burrow back up

2449
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 1: and running because you're on the way to the playoffs.

2450
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 2: Do you, though, I don't know that defense stinks to

2451
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 2: high Heaven. I mean, they put up they lost, They

2452
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 2: put up forty seven points in their last game against

2453
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 2: the Bears, and they've not been good at all. So

2454
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 2: you're three and six. Yes, the Steelers are coming back

2455
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 2: to earth a little bit, but I'd rather that have

2456
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow healthy and ready for twenty twenty six and

2457
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 2: trotting him out for a potential wild card berth.

2458
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 1: All right, we just talked to Alex Golden about the

2459
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers. They will be back in the action tonight

2460
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: against the Utah Jazz eight thirty airtime here at ninety

2461
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:38,360
Speaker 1: three five and one on seven to five of the

2462
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 1: Fan with Mark Boyle and Pat Boyling, and then Mark

2463
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 1: will have the play by play beginning at nine pm.

2464
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 1: TJ McConnell has been upgraded to questionable. You may see

2465
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: him tonight. We'll have to wait and see. Pascal Siakam

2466
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Neiesmith are both off the injured list and so

2467
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: they're starting to get a little healthier at this point

2468
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: in time. We'll see how it all goes down tonight

2469
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: against the Utah Jazz Pacers looking for only their second

2470
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:02,000
Speaker 1: win of the year.

2471
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 2: Mark, if McConnell doesn't play to night, he's playing Thursday though,

2472
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 2: he would do right, so you would think, yeah, against

2473
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 2: the Suns.

2474
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: It's been battling a hamstring since pre season.

2475
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 2: Well, I hope so keep an eye on the injury report.

2476
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 1: All right. Also in the NBA, last night, Dallas loses

2477
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee won sixteen one fourteen. Yes, Cooper Flagg, the

2478
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 1: overall number one pick this past year, scored twenty six points,

2479
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 1: but they did lose a thirteen point lead, and in

2480
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 1: the midst of that the crowd started chanting fire Nico again.

2481
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 2: I feel like that's that's becoming like a regular thing

2482
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 2: these days. You got rid of Luca. I suggest you're

2483
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 2: probably not too high on the fan base, but you

2484
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 2: got Cooper Flag. Okay, great. I don't know how that's

2485
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 2: working out so well. So he seems not long for

2486
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 2: the job, but he's there now and that is unfortunate.

2487
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 2: I'm you're a Mavericks fan.

2488
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 1: All right. Last night college basketball in the end of

2489
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: the State a nine point winner over Southern Illinois Edwardsville

2490
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,799
Speaker 1: sixty four or fifty five the final score there. Tonight,

2491
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Butler will be hosting Chicago State seven pm, tip six

2492
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: thirty year time where Mark ninety two point seven Fmgo Fuego.

2493
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to get a little bit

2494
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 2: of a nice correct.

2495
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, wellbe in Houston.

2496
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,680
Speaker 2: That's the extent of my Spanish by the way, I'm

2497
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 2: blue Espaniel.

2498
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 1: Then we'll see a Danielson straight up at on muchel

2499
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: Saniel's beside it.

2500
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 2: But that was a lot better set a stone, Okay, Tom,

2501
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 2: that's with milk.

2502
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: I believe I had a lot of years in school

2503
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 1: as well. Wow, okay, you actually I don't remember another querlo.

2504
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 2: Maas you start talking like that, Jeff, you might get

2505
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:30,759
Speaker 2: the ladies all excited. They Hey, No, the only.

2506
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 1: Thing that's good for me is I can order really

2507
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,599
Speaker 1: well at Mexican restaurants. That's about it. Houston has moved

2508
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: past Purdue on the first in season top twenty five pole.

2509
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 1: Purdue will get a chance to write that ship. Not

2510
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: that it's really wrong. They'll be at number eight Alabama

2511
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 1: on Thursday, Indiana at two. And oh we'll host Milwaukee

2512
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: tomorrow night down in Bloomington. So anything else you want

2513
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: to throw in.

2514
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,559
Speaker 2: I think that's about it. Again, I said it earlier.

2515
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,879
Speaker 2: Kyle Hendricks retiring after twelve seasons in Major League Baseball

2516
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,759
Speaker 2: is the last of the twenty sixteen World Series champion

2517
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: Cubs that were still around so or at least, you know,

2518
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 2: really active. So sad to see him go. One of

2519
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 2: my favorites of all time. So yeah, disappointed. He was

2520
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 2: the last one on the roster before they got traded

2521
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 2: and went to the Angels. So shout out Kyle Hendricks.

2522
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: He have a career. Hopefully you'll get retired at Wrigley

2523
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 2: at some point in these days.

2524
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Didn't we have some Rookie of the Year announcement

2525
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: yesterday major League Baseball too.

2526
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate Horton, who I thought should have won NL

2527
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year for the Cubs. He did not.

2528
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 2: He finished in second. I believe I'm trying to murmer

2529
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 2: who it was exactly. I know it was one of

2530
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 2: the A's player of the Braves, Baldwin, the catcher from

2531
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 2: Drake Baldwin from the Braves won that. And then Nick Kurtz,

2532
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 2: the first basement of the Athletics, was eunanus choice for

2533
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: the AL Rookie of the Year.

2534
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: I was looking at a picture of Nick Kurtz too,

2535
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 1: and I'd seen him play just once or twice this year.

2536
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 1: He looks like he's still in high school.

2537
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when you know you're getting older. These kids

2538
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 2: look young and they probably are a year older.

2539
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment. We'll take a look around

2540
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the National Football League things you need

2541
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 1: to be aware of, as the Colts have there by

2542
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 1: week and they're sitting on top of the world at

2543
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 1: eight and two. It's all straight ahead, ninety three five

2544
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,120
Speaker 1: and one oh seven five of the fan. It could

2545
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: threaten to wreck me. Gotta take a break from eating

2546
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 1: a cluster truck right there.

2547
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 2: It's good, as is Outcast rock and Roll Hall of

2548
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 2: Famers over the weekend. That was fun to watch. That

2549
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 2: was a cool How did the cool side?

2550
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Who gets into the rock and roll Hall of Fame?

2551
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 4: Though?

2552
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: I think there are who makes that decision?

2553
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 2: There are like things you need to reach. I think

2554
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:40,560
Speaker 2: like your first album has to come out like twenty

2555
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 2: five years. I have to look at it. I don't

2556
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: know Butcher what it is, but there are things there are,

2557
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 2: you know, heights you need to reach and everything. But

2558
01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 2: there's always a list of people that are up for it.

2559
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, there's no way that band's

2560
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 2: getting in or something. But uh, Outcast one of the

2561
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: all time great duos, not only in rap but all

2562
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 2: time and music. So it is great to see them

2563
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 2: get them their flowers because that was cool to see

2564
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 2: Big boy, and what name? Why my blank Andre three

2565
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 2: thousand get their flowers and everything.

2566
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: You forget the name Andre three thousand.

2567
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:13,679
Speaker 2: I just blank for a so I was eating cluster

2568
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 2: truck and I'm.

2569
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: That's the I'd forget the other one.

2570
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 2: Big boy, big boy now a granddad. And yeah, Andre

2571
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 2: three thousand had the gray beard going. He's doing flute

2572
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 2: music and everything out in Japan or something. But god,

2573
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 2: I missed them. They were great.

2574
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 1: So you think you're getting old, wait till you get

2575
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: to the point where all the guys you're watching play

2576
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 1: right now have kids, and those guys start showing up

2577
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 1: in the NBA and the NFL. That's where I'm at.

2578
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm at the point now where guys I covered early

2579
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 1: in my career they all have kids playing.

2580
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 2: I think. I think I'm twenty four years old, and

2581
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 2: I think the Boozer twins at Duke is what's hitting,

2582
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 2: because I actually do remember watching Carlos Boozer, not you

2583
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 2: guys may remember the college player, not not me necessarily.

2584
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 2: It was more of like his his end of his

2585
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 2: Utah days into the Bulls teams. And now I'm watching

2586
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 2: his his twins' sons play a duke and that's blowing

2587
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:03,759
Speaker 2: my mind.

2588
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You're talking to a guy who was really

2589
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: into baseball for a long long time. Was my favorite

2590
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:13,839
Speaker 1: sport for a long time. I actually remember, not vividly,

2591
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:18,000
Speaker 1: but I remember Patrick Mahomes's dad. How crazy is that?

2592
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 2: Carlos Boozer's painted hair on the bulls and like the

2593
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 2: mid two thousands, that still trips me out. Jaylen Brown's

2594
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 2: following that lead painted hair. I remember that was like

2595
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 2: that that looks he went from baldal wasn't get a

2596
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 2: full Like, guy is not real. I feel like that's

2597
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 2: gonna be like running down your head if there's even

2598
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 2: a drop of precipitation.

2599
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,480
Speaker 1: You ever seen Jalen Brown's backstory? Though, That guy's brilliant.

2600
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 2: Cal cal U.

2601
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: He went to cal. The dude would basically be like

2602
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 1: an astrophysicist right now. He's actually spoken as a guest

2603
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: speaker at some of the science classes at either MIT

2604
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: or Harvard. I can't remember one of them in Boston there.

2605
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was. Guy plays the guitar.

2606
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 2: Wow, I actually didn't know this, like I read that.

2607
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 1: I read some article about him two or three weeks ago,

2608
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, I didn't know all.

2609
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 2: That you're saying in the NBA is his backup plan basically,

2610
01:52:10,479 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 2: like he could be doing anything, and he's doing seriously, well.

2611
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: If your backup plan is making tens of millions of

2612
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: dollars every year.

2613
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it sounds like he could be making tens

2614
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars in regardless of what he's doing.

2615
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:20,679
Speaker 2: But hey, he's like I played basketball for a while,

2616
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 2: but look at that. I read that.

2617
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, there's just there's somebody just

2618
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: as they've got it figured out.

2619
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 2: To be eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

2620
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 2: and artists must have released their first commercial recording at

2621
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 2: least twenty five years ago. Beyond this one former criteria

2622
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 2: of the selection process, it's subjective and consider his musical excellence, impact,

2623
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 2: and influence, which are evaluated by nominating committee. You guys,

2624
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 2: ever been to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yes,

2625
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 2: it's amazing. It's awesome.

2626
01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 1: Great story for you. I was doing a when I

2627
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 1: was in Salt Lake City working for the Utah Jazz

2628
01:52:49,400 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 1: We were actually did in the summertime. I did the

2629
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: w NBA play by play for the Utah Stars at

2630
01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 1: the time and we were in Cleveland, and so I

2631
01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 1: did my afternoon show. They have a radio studio at

2632
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 1: the very top of that little pyramid, right, and so

2633
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: I did there. But because my show was an afternoon

2634
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,680
Speaker 1: show out west, it was in the evening. By the

2635
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: time I got done, the museums closed, all the lights

2636
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 1: are off. The big attraction at that point in time

2637
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 1: was Pink Floyd's the Wall. So it's this cavernous museum dark.

2638
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with it, and I'm by myself, and

2639
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm walking down the stairs and around the corner, and

2640
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:29,599
Speaker 1: just as I come around a corner towards that exhibit,

2641
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, from a loud speaker comes a big,

2642
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: booming voice that you're all familiar with that says, you

2643
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 1: can't have any meat if you don't eat your pudding.

2644
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: And it scared the daylights out of me because I

2645
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 1: did not see that coming. It was pitch dark, and

2646
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 1: I was just trying to find the doorway to get out.

2647
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 2: Now I need to change of pants because that scared

2648
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 2: the be Jesus.

2649
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 1: So yes, I have been to the Rock and Roll

2650
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. That's my that's my Rock and Roll

2651
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame story.

2652
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 2: We did it where we did a road trip. We

2653
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 2: went through like from Illinois through Detroit to Canada. To

2654
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 2: Canada for the first time. That was cool. And then

2655
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 2: way back we looped around, went through Niagara Falls, through

2656
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:06,680
Speaker 2: New York, and then we just kind of did one

2657
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 2: big leave around. We stopped in Cleveland, went to the

2658
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 2: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And you know, the

2659
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 2: kids these days, his days have their COVID and they

2660
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 2: have their neuro virus and everything like that. Back in

2661
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 2: the day, SARS was the was the rage. And we

2662
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 2: got through the Canadian border and like all of a sudden,

2663
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: like oh yeah, SARS is breaking out, and like, oh boy,

2664
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 2: did we bring that over here? What happened? But so

2665
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 2: we went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

2666
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 2: and that was that was very very cool. My dad

2667
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 2: is a huge Beatles fan, so he was all all

2668
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,080
Speaker 2: over the map with that and then just Nirvana and

2669
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 2: all that it is. It is awesome. I would highly

2670
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: recommend going the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame if

2671
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 2: you haven't been.

2672
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: It's one thing I like about Market and his family,

2673
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: like they're not and we did this when I was

2674
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 1: a kid.

2675
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm not the Nevan. You just went, I'm more of.

2676
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 1: A plane of a plane guy, and we've got we've

2677
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 1: taken a couple of road trips with the kids. Not

2678
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: that we haven't, but Mark just like it feels like

2679
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 1: drive the one hundred and sixty five days off that

2680
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: he has, it's just a road trip to some other

2681
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: part the country all the time that I.

2682
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I'm Midwestern boy, that's what you do. You

2683
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 2: look at the map, you say, yeah, we could fly

2684
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 2: to Florida, but why do that? And we could drive

2685
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:09,200
Speaker 2: for sixteen hours?

2686
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 1: Mark right now could give you directions to any one

2687
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 1: of eight BUCkies.

2688
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I went to BUCkies over the we were in Nashville,

2689
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 2: so I stopped it over the weekends. So as the

2690
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 2: go to like BUCkies, order or gas station get you

2691
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 2: through a road trip, the nearest one now is Bowling Green.

2692
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 2: I totally dropped the ball on Friday because there was

2693
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: news that there might be a BUCkies coming to Indy

2694
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 2: soon in the in the Greenwood area. So that is

2695
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: very exciting news for yours truly, so big time. That

2696
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 2: would be awesome. So we'll see if that happens.

2697
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 1: Every weekend, Mark's families could take a road trip to Greenwood.

2698
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, whether it's for the gas prices

2699
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 2: of beef jerky or just some fudge, or just a

2700
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 2: wave high to the beaver or something, I'll be doing something.

2701
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: But my kid's gotten their picture taken with the little

2702
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 1: statue out front many times. And then the mascots.

2703
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:55,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes the mascots just root by the fudge factory. So no,

2704
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 2: but we've stopped. The nearest one right now is Bowling Green,

2705
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 2: I believe, so we did that one. And if you're

2706
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 2: not getting the cheap, cheap gas, sometimes you just need

2707
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 2: to stretch your legs. Long road trips, get out of BUCkies,

2708
01:56:04,760 --> 01:56:07,200
Speaker 2: go to the immaculate bathrooms, then just stretch your legs

2709
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 2: a little bit.

2710
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: I've onlady, been to two BUCkies, one in Kentucky and

2711
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:11,720
Speaker 1: one in uh just outside Knoxville.

2712
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 2: I think I went to both of those this past weekend.

2713
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, they're they are. They are extraordinary. If you

2714
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 2: haven't been, it is an experience unlike any other that

2715
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:23,400
Speaker 2: you need to take in you getting paid for that. No,

2716
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 2: have you seen what they make it BUCkies? Though they

2717
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 2: add the gas when you get gas, they tell you

2718
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 2: what they're paying people. Geez almighty, can we work on

2719
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 2: this though. When BUCkies comes to Greenwood and get Mark

2720
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 2: a little sponsorship, I think that needs to happen.

2721
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 1: And I understand that it's not their wheelhouse at all,

2722
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 1: and the food is fantastic, but they're not very much there.

2723
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 1: That's good for you. At the buns near Ye're not

2724
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: trying to fight, you're not eating healthy. That's right, eating

2725
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: that once you get the bacon salad here. There's nothing

2726
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 1: like walking a BUCkies. Where's a salad bar?

2727
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 2: They'll throw you out on your ass and get clogged

2728
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 2: arteries and nothing else in here.

2729
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with the brusket there. I'll tell you, Oh delicious,

2730
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: all right. Coming back in a minute, we'll talk about

2731
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 1: the National Football League in general, and we'll find out

2732
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 1: what Mark and Caleb are up to tonight for their

2733
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 1: viewing schedules this evening. This is the best way to say,

2734
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 1: we'll do it next ninety three to five, one seven

2735
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 1: five to Fan.

2736
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 2: Fan Morning Show on a Tuesday. Thanks for hanging out

2737
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: with Jeff and I. James Boyd, I believe currently in

2738
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 2: the air flying back from Berlin. He should join us

2739
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow barring any unforeseen travel issues.

2740
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 1: You think he's that guy would like the the little

2741
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:37,600
Speaker 1: uh face mask over his eyes and leaning back, he said,

2742
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: his shoes off, he said.

2743
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 2: Zero issues falling asleep. But yeah, I do need to

2744
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 2: know the situation of like do you take your shoes

2745
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 2: off on the flight, and like, I've seen some horrific

2746
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 2: in air. I'm not lating videos of people taking their

2747
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 2: shoes off, are reclining the seat and people shoving the

2748
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 2: seat back at him. It is it's the wild West

2749
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 2: up there, so especially on that kind of a travel distance,

2750
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm curious, you know, what is what is inflight etiquette

2751
01:57:59,680 --> 01:57:59,960
Speaker 2: for a jam.

2752
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're paying flight attendance these days,

2753
01:58:02,680 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 1: but it is not enough. No, not only you know,

2754
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 1: with the current issues with air travel and everything like that.

2755
01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, people are pissed. They just want to get

2756
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 2: to the location they're going to. So I can only imagine

2757
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 2: tensions are high in the sky, you know, and even

2758
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 2: more so internationally. So James expected to join us tomorrow.

2759
01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,160
Speaker 2: So shout out to Caleb for joining the last three shows.

2760
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 2: He's done a tremendous job and it's been a pleasure

2761
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 2: of working here. But I can tell he's already taking

2762
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:30,879
Speaker 2: my job. So I will look elsewhere, apparently the BUCkies mascot.

2763
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 2: If they need any applications for the Johnson County location,

2764
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 2: I will happily apply. Update that.

2765
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:39,360
Speaker 1: I think you've done a fantastic job. I have two

2766
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 1: things though, go ahead. First of all, your headphones. What

2767
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: you have to have one air exposed. You got to

2768
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 1: be able to have an ear that you can hear

2769
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 1: the studio that is.

2770
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 2: That is a good point. That is a good point.

2771
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: So let's do that.

2772
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 2: When I'm ripping farts, you got to.

2773
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 1: Hear about dude, I haven't. I haven't noticed that, and

2774
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 1: I hope I don't. The other thing is what's up

2775
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 1: with the Duke sweatshirt?

2776
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking of a that, you know, to

2777
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 2: I figure to have I you or Purdue or something. Well,

2778
01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 2: to tease this last break, Jeff, in the last segment,

2779
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 2: you said, well, what are you going to watch tonight? Well,

2780
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. And maybe this is going to ruin

2781
01:59:11,240 --> 01:59:14,720
Speaker 2: the good will I've built up with uh this audience

2782
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 2: over the times I've produced. But I'm a Duke basketball

2783
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 2: fan and have been for about fifteen years. John Shire

2784
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 2: big big fan.

2785
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 1: Of all John Shire does is recruit like for of

2786
01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: the top six five star guys every year, and so

2787
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:32,960
Speaker 1: tonight they're taking on Army on Veterans Day.

2788
01:59:33,040 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: Kind of cool thing. They visited the campus yesterday. They're

2789
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 2: going to be playing and yeah, so I'm gonna be

2790
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 2: watching that tonight because it's on CBS Sports Networks, so

2791
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:45,320
Speaker 2: it's not on any of the Disney networks because I

2792
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 2: have YouTube TV, which I wouldn't be able to watch

2793
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:50,680
Speaker 2: any of those. So I'll be watching that. Uh So

2794
01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 2: I told Kevin when Notre Dame was playing Navy over

2795
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 2: the weekend, Duke has got to lay down for Army today.

2796
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 2: Veterans Day can't be You can't beating if they respect

2797
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 2: the if they respect the troops. You know that they

2798
02:00:02,360 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 2: kept me beating the brakes off of Army on Veterans Day.

2799
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 2: That just is not quite good point. Shout out Happy

2800
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 2: Veterans Day, by the way, to all those that serve

2801
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 2: us past present and you know going forward in the future.

2802
02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 2: We appreciate all the service you guys do.

2803
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about earlier in the show. Relatives and

2804
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 1: people we've had, they were close to us that have served,

2805
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 1: and there's just an amazing thing that happens when someone

2806
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: says you know what, I'll volunteer to do this for

2807
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 1: the next at least four years and sometimes turns into career.

2808
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 2: One of the most emotional things I've ever done on

2809
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 2: like a vacation, and it wasn't really a vacation. It

2810
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 2: was an eighth grade trip, but I went there also

2811
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 2: just with family, went to Arlington National Cemetery, and that

2812
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:44,280
Speaker 2: is truly one of the most inspirational yet emotional experiences

2813
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 2: of your life. If you ever go there, if you've

2814
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 2: never been, I would highly recommend it if you get

2815
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:48,760
Speaker 2: to DC at some point.

2816
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 1: The other thing I would say for all the hundreds

2817
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:55,640
Speaker 1: and hundreds of games college, NFL, everything else that I've covered,

2818
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 1: NBA done play by play for there's nothing like a

2819
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 1: service game. And you get an you get Air Force

2820
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: or Navy or Air Force Army. At the beginning of

2821
02:01:05,720 --> 02:01:10,600
Speaker 1: the game, there's flyovers and then there's flyovers guys, something

2822
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 1: a little bit different.

2823
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 2: They do it right, they do it right.

2824
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 1: So I was fortunate to do a bunch of games

2825
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 1: at the Air Force Academy when I was out in

2826
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:22,400
Speaker 1: the Mountain West region. That was never disappointing day, always

2827
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: fun down there.

2828
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 2: So if Caleb's Blue devils have any heart, they'll lay

2829
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:28,080
Speaker 2: down tonight. I think that's a good point.

2830
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Mark.

2831
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a win win for Duke. Either way,

2832
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:32,080
Speaker 2: you go home happy with a win, or you give

2833
02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 2: some respect to the the West Point people over there.

2834
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,800
Speaker 1: Is there any iteration of professional wrestling on Tuesday nights

2835
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 1: because on a Monday night's the big.

2836
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:42,680
Speaker 2: One WWNXT, which I don't watch too much, just because

2837
02:01:42,680 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 2: I do have a life in children. I can't watch everything,

2838
02:01:45,440 --> 02:01:47,440
Speaker 2: so I don't watch that as much. But yeah, that

2839
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 2: is on tonight.

2840
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 1: What do you spend half your time with your children watching?

2841
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:52,920
Speaker 2: They do love it. They asked, are we watching it tonight?

2842
02:01:52,960 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 2: And they always says WrestleMania on tonight, Like, well, it's

2843
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 2: not WrestleMania, that's an April, but they don't know. So, yeah,

2844
02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 2: we watched it last night. They're very excited, but yeah,

2845
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 2: we don't watch it every single night. So we'll see

2846
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 2: what's on the dockets side. There's some college hoops going on.

2847
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 2: Can the Pacers get a w Can they get some

2848
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 2: healthy bodies back? I'll be intrigued by that as they

2849
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 2: try to wrap up this West Coast trip with at

2850
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:13,680
Speaker 2: least a win. Can we get one win out of four,

2851
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:14,360
Speaker 2: that'd be nice.

2852
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll be checking out the Indiana Pacers a little

2853
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: bit later on tonight, but before that, I have two

2854
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 1: episodes away from finishing the third season of the Diplomat

2855
02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 1: with Kerry Russell of Watch Show.

2856
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:26,560
Speaker 2: I've heard good likings. Okay, I like it.

2857
02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 1: I like Kerry Russell, I like her. It's pretty good.

2858
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 2: Vielcity gets done even in twenty twenty five.

2859
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 1: I like more mature Felicity, be honest with you. I

2860
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: don't like any character she has right now. I'm just

2861
02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 1: kind of she's kind of a hot mess and that's

2862
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of cool.

2863
02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:43,200
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it yet. I'm kind of this is

2864
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:44,560
Speaker 2: kind of like an early I gotta know. But the

2865
02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 2: Frankenstein movie by Germo del Toro, I've heard good things

2866
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,080
Speaker 2: about that. I want to watch that on Netflix, so

2867
02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm curious about that if we should watch it or

2868
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:54,240
Speaker 2: other girls like, is that a scary movie? Like? I

2869
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 2: don't think it's not gonna be not scary, So I

2870
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:57,920
Speaker 2: don't know if I can watch it around them.

2871
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,320
Speaker 1: Anything else coming up on the Netflix are one of

2872
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 1: the service providers. I keep waiting for an asking are

2873
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 1: they coming up with a new season of Reacher. I'm

2874
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 1: ready for.

2875
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm ready for. I don't know the A Rod documentary.

2876
02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:10,200
Speaker 2: That is another one. I do to watch thee Alex

2877
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 2: Versus A Rod doc I think that's on HBO Max.

2878
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:14,000
Speaker 1: Are we getting that from a point of viewer? Is

2879
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 1: it going to be a fairly objective look at it?

2880
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 1: I've heard he's apparently and he's I mean, he's in there.

2881
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 1: But I've heard it's like kind of a cell where

2882
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 1: he addresses the feud with Jeter, he addresses the steroid

2883
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 1: stuff and all that. So I don't love a Rod

2884
02:03:28,320 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: that much. I think he's done better as a commentator

2885
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:33,080
Speaker 1: and everything. But I would I will watch that. I

2886
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 1: will watch it at some point. So I've heard nothing

2887
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 1: but good thing. The crazy part about that Yankees team

2888
02:03:37,240 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 1: is objectively Alex Rodriguez was a better baseball player than

2889
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter. But if I said, which guy do you

2890
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 1: want on your baseball team, it's Jeter one hundred times

2891
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 1: out of.

2892
02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:49,879
Speaker 2: One hundred, right, geta number two? Yeah?

2893
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 1: Right, I know it is. It's it's a hundred times

2894
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:52,680
Speaker 1: out of one hundred.

2895
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 3: Huh.

2896
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean Alex Rodriguez is one of the ten most

2897
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:58,360
Speaker 1: talented baseball players that have ever walked on a field.

2898
02:03:58,720 --> 02:04:01,760
Speaker 1: The fact that he was even using performs enhancing drugs

2899
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 1: was crazy to me. And he just there was something

2900
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 1: off about him all the time.

2901
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 2: He was the face of like why people hate the

2902
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:12,240
Speaker 2: Yankees because he's a pretty boy, rich guy and you're

2903
02:04:12,280 --> 02:04:14,480
Speaker 2: just like, oh, you thought his blank didn't stink and

2904
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 2: everything like that. He would just drive you crazy cause

2905
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 2: I don't like that guy, and he's wearing a Yankees

2906
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 2: reform and I don't like the Yankees. So he was

2907
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:23,360
Speaker 2: like the face of why people don't like the Yankees.

2908
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 2: Is Alex Rodriguez.

2909
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Tell me how it goes if you if you like it,

2910
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 1: let me know.

2911
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 2: I do want to watch it.

2912
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel like I need to know

2913
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 1: a whole lot more about Alex Rodriguez. That's just me.

2914
02:04:35,680 --> 02:04:36,240
Speaker 2: I'll let you know.

2915
02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 1: It's I think it'll go deep into his relationship with

2916
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez.

2917
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 2: I hope, so I would like to know more.

2918
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 1: All right, coming up at noon today, Jake Query comes

2919
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 1: your way from noon to three, and then of course

2920
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: at three o'clock JMB will get you home. On the

2921
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:52,240
Speaker 1: ride with JMV. Have yourself is a great one, Caleb,

2922
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,880
Speaker 1: great job. We'll see you again soon. Ninety three five

2923
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 1: one oh seven five the fan Enjoy the rest of

2924
02:04:57,040 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 1: your Tuesday. Pacers play tonight, eight thirty year Time, nine

2925
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:00,760
Speaker 1: o'clock tip