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Speaker 1: for Java House. Tony East joining us now from Forbes

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Speaker 1: locked on Pacers amongst others, talking about the Pacers who

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Speaker 1: have New York Tonight, Tony. It's been kind of this

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Speaker 1: layoff period here for the Pacers and now back in

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Speaker 1: the mix. One of the things I find interesting that

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Speaker 1: we have talked about, and yes, people look at it

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Speaker 1: and say, why are they talking about ten day contracts

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Speaker 1: or one year G League contracts, et cetera. But it

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Speaker 1: seems as though Rick Carlisle has been able to kind

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Speaker 1: of masterfully audition players for depth pieces while still working

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Speaker 1: it into a system that is allowing them to be

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Speaker 1: somewhat competitive with in games. Who is the latest now

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Speaker 1: that we're looking at as hmmm, are they giving this

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Speaker 1: an audition?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would love to answer that, but I would

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Speaker 2: actually like to ask a favor of you, Jake, can

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Speaker 2: you make the noise again that the coffee water interaction makes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for asking that. That's Java House. And

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Speaker 1: when you put it in, it's re instantly. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. It doesn't do this. It doesn't do this,

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Speaker 1: tonty Okay. A lot of times you get one that

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Speaker 1: does this. That's true, and then you think you're cat's

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Speaker 1: hyperventilating and it takes forever.

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Speaker 3: You don't need you just literally you put it in.

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Speaker 3: Ret there it is.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that on my lead in hearing you

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Speaker 2: make the exact interaction.

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Speaker 4: Java House is lovely.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Yes, they signed the Pacers signed Game

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Speaker 2: of glossin this week to a ten day deal.

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Speaker 4: Another hardship. There's sixth to one.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I had covered a single hardship signing

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Speaker 2: ever for the Pacers before the season, and now they've

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Speaker 2: done six in less than two months, which you know,

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Speaker 2: we could talk and we will talk about how good

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Speaker 2: the team is doing and what they are what they're

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Speaker 2: not doing well, and why they're six and twenty and

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Speaker 2: things of that nature, and like there are real answers

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Speaker 2: to that. But then you're like, oh, yeah, They've been

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Speaker 2: that level of injured all season. Right now, with Ben Shepherd,

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Speaker 2: Aaron the Smith and Obi topping out, their biggest need

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Speaker 2: is a forward, and McLoughlin's been playing pretty well for

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Speaker 2: the Noblesville Boom. He many will remember he played in

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Speaker 2: the preseason for the Pacers, right so he knows the

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Speaker 2: system well. The Boom are pretty similar in how they play.

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Speaker 2: I'll bee it with different players than the Pacers, and

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Speaker 2: this one's a little different to me than there are

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Speaker 2: other hardship signings they've done before.

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Speaker 4: When they signed like Garris Matthews.

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Speaker 2: And Cody Martin and Jeremi Robinson Meeral, those guys all

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Speaker 2: played like immediately they were in the rotation their very

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Speaker 2: first games. I don't think they need Gabe to be

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Speaker 2: playing right away, but if you have the resource, it

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Speaker 2: does make sense to add some depth like their foul trouble.

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Speaker 4: Or an injury away for meeting them forward.

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Speaker 2: Now they get to do their Boom call up and

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Speaker 2: keep evaluating what they need because I think between Furfey

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Speaker 2: you know some of these wings we're talking about what

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Speaker 2: Ethan Thompson's in on this two way, Like they're really

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Speaker 2: looking at who's helping them win now and who can

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Speaker 2: as much as this season is about what it's about,

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Speaker 4: So I think that's part of the in and.

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Speaker 2: Out iness of a lot of these contracts is trying

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Speaker 1: Tony, when you look at the last two games, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Tony East, my guest Joba House Peel and poor guest

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Speaker 1: line Philly and Washington. Now Philly's a little bit different

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Speaker 1: because Joel Embiid somehow found this like fountain of youth

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Speaker 4: But perhaps that's what happened. I mean that was did

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Speaker 4: you go to that game, Jake?

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Speaker 5: Were you there?

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Speaker 4: I mean that was hideous.

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Speaker 1: I was not there actually one of I think that's

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Speaker 1: that's the problem because I don't know if you know

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Speaker 1: this about Tony, but typically when I walk into the arena,

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Speaker 2: It was bizarre, And you're right that it happens every year,

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Speaker 4: Five in the third quarter like that.

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Speaker 2: But it is, you know, super concerning. When it happens

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Speaker 2: like that's fine. You know, we're playing a bad team.

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Speaker 2: They never got good shot. They shot undred forty percent

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Speaker 2: And you do wonder, and you know, there's that shot

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Speaker 2: what's happening, like shocked almost, like what kind of toll

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Speaker 2: losses can play? And you know, no, no pro athlete

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Speaker 2: likes losing, especially when you've now lost at home to

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Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets and the Washington Wizards in the same season.

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Speaker 4: They have not beaten over five hundred team as of

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Speaker 2: Maybe the Warriors get there eventually, but they haven't played

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Speaker 2: know it's going to end right because they should. Even

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Speaker 2: if Alburn is not as good, post Achilles be good next.

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Speaker 4: Year, right, So they know they have to like take

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't make it easier in the moment when

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Speaker 2: I think they they had a strong week of responsive practices.

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Speaker 4: To it, but I mean, game like that just can't happen, right,

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Speaker 2: Even in a season like this where losses aren't as

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Speaker 4: You learn something from that.

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Speaker 2: Those guys get extra valuable experience from playing well against

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Speaker 4: When you get completely punked against.

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Speaker 2: The Wizards in a no after game, sure the result

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Speaker 1: How would you assess Tony Tony East my guest the

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Speaker 1: mindset So far, he has been a pros pro, But

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Speaker 1: you do feel bad for Pascal Siakam just because he's

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Speaker 1: been the one stable player right into you know that

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Speaker 3: Seemingly all the time.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen any indication at all that Siakam is

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Speaker 1: I don't mean that would be the case, but where

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Speaker 2: I think you said that like early when they were

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Speaker 2: with the He was not good against the Wizards, to

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Speaker 2: Of his teammates got paid a couple summers ago, and

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's like it's always just been who

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Speaker 2: he is and what's a big part of him in

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Speaker 2: the NBA and the Pincers are not doing that right

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Speaker 2: now and you can see it on his face during games,

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Speaker 1: Tony East again locked on Pacers Forbes. Hear him on

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Speaker 3: Tony appreciate it as always.

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Speaker 2: I hope they make a video of you doing that

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Speaker 1: I've never really even thought about the fact I do it.

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Speaker 1: It's one of them.

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Speaker 1: in that capacity working with alongside interviewing, et cetera, Greg Biffle. Now,

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Speaker 5: No, I think you said it correctly.

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Speaker 3: Did they mention in it, Adam?

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Speaker 1: And if you didn't hear, you know, that's but to

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Speaker 6: They did not mention that the number. The last number

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Speaker 3: Have you worked, Adam, with Greg Biffel directly, I.

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Speaker 6: Have, you know, I work at the first rates I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously you know, one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: Adam, to your knowledge, did Greg Biffle? This is inconsequential?

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Speaker 5: He spent on that side.

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Speaker 6: But I don't know, you know where he sit into

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Speaker 1: Well, Adam, I appreciate you coming on in, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty sixth. Matt Taylor is the voice of the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: Joins us now on the Java House Peel and Poor

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Speaker 3: Those guys are.

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Speaker 1: Not on the practice field today, but everything's kind of

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Speaker 1: And we at this point it appears clear Shane Sdeikeen,

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Speaker 6: Yep, And I get the indication that Philip is probably

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Speaker 1: The question I have there is this, Seeattle, I thought personally,

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Speaker 6: front four, but they're gonna play really tight on the

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Speaker 6: outside and make those throwing windows, you know, in the angles,

444
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Speaker 6: pretty pretty sharp and hard to fit the football into.

445
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Speaker 6: So that's kind of what happened, is you know, they

446
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Speaker 6: would they were kind of foolish and and blitzing him

447
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Speaker 6: early in the game, and then he would throw it

448
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Speaker 6: to where the blitz was coming from. And that's how

449
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Speaker 6: the Colts were getting some first downs and staying on schedule.

450
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Speaker 6: And you know, that's the thing about you know that

451
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Speaker 6: that game plan this week is you know, I know

452
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Speaker 6: it wasn't aesthetically awesome to watch, but it almost worked

453
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Speaker 6: considering how well the defense played. And you go back

454
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Speaker 6: and you kind of look at the box score or

455
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Speaker 6: like the game notes, like the game book if you will.

456
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Speaker 6: I mean, the Colts said they had nine persons in

457
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Speaker 6: that game prior to the last possession where they turn

458
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Speaker 6: it over, and they only had the one play on

459
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Speaker 6: the interception, but take that one out. They had nine

460
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Speaker 6: drives for the game and they reached plus territory in

461
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Speaker 6: six of them. And so that's how I think, you

462
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Speaker 6: know the forty nine ers are going to play going

463
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Speaker 6: forward is you know, they're not going to probably send

464
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Speaker 6: a lot of pressure on Philip Rivers, but they're gonna

465
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Speaker 6: play pretty tight on the outside and make it tough.

466
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Speaker 6: You know, based on his skill set and his age

467
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Speaker 6: at forty four and not being really mobile, they're going

468
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Speaker 6: to be you know, they're going to, I think, be

469
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Speaker 6: pretty concentrated on shutting down the free releases on the

470
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Speaker 6: outside from guys like Pierce and Pittman and take away

471
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Speaker 6: the deep ball and again make those throwing angles pretty

472
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Speaker 6: sharp for him to fit the ball into at the

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Speaker 6: line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: I was intrigued by and a little bit impressed by

475
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Speaker 1: Matt the use of a mir Abdullah out of the

476
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Speaker 1: backfield and just kind of the incorporation of that wrinkle.

477
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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that because here's.

478
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Speaker 1: A guy that finally they found maybe some looks that

479
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Speaker 1: they liked, or was it more so Philip Rivers has

480
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Speaker 1: always had that kind of an out of the back

481
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Speaker 1: field kind of guy, and it fit with what they

482
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Speaker 1: wanted to do and was a comfort zone for Rivers,

483
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Speaker 1: and therefore Abdullah was able to answer that bell.

484
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Darren Sproles Niam Hines when he was

485
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 6: here with Philip Rivers in twenty twenty. I mean, he

486
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 6: loves throwing the backs out of the backfield and he

487
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 6: knows exactly where those guys are going to be. And

488
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Speaker 6: if you play with Philip Rivers as a running back,

489
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Speaker 6: you got to be where you're supposed to be because

490
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Speaker 6: he knows where you're supposed to be, probably better than

491
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Speaker 6: you do. And so you know, that's that's always a

492
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Speaker 6: safety valve for him, especially with you know how the

493
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Speaker 6: Seahawks were playing that game. Get the ball out quick,

494
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Speaker 6: get it out on time, and let guys with better

495
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Speaker 6: athleticism than Philip Rivers go out there and make plays

496
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Speaker 6: and get yards after the catch. I mean that jerk

497
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Speaker 6: router to that, that's sort of like you know, hard

498
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Speaker 6: angle route that they ran with some mere Abdula was

499
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Speaker 6: really productive. They probably ran it three or four times

500
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Speaker 6: and they hit it for some big yards, and so

501
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 6: that's what I think you're going to see a lot

502
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Speaker 6: of you know, check down to the tailor check downs

503
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Speaker 6: over the middle to Abdullah. I love what they did

504
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Speaker 6: on that quick screen on the first completion of the game.

505
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Speaker 5: Uh, that wide receiver screen Pittman.

506
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Speaker 6: I mean, these are all kind of like extensions of

507
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Speaker 6: the running game where you know.

508
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Speaker 5: If you hit them, that's that's good.

509
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Speaker 6: And you know if they go for if they break

510
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 6: for you know, big yards after the catch, your yards

511
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Speaker 6: after contact, that's that's great. You take those. But those

512
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Speaker 6: are those are you know, implemented to keep you on

513
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Speaker 6: the field and set you up on you know, third

514
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Speaker 6: and three, third and four.

515
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Speaker 2: Uh.

516
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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously it goes without saying third and long

517
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Speaker 6: for Philip rivers is not a recipe for success, especially

518
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Speaker 6: when you're you know, kind of stacked up in your

519
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Speaker 6: own territory, which they were a couple of times at

520
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 6: the beginning of that game. But you know, inevitably they're

521
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Speaker 6: gonna have to be a little bit more you know,

522
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Speaker 6: for whatever, for lack of a better term, they're gonna

523
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Speaker 6: have to be more open they're gonna have to be, uh,

524
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Speaker 6: they're gonna have to open the playbook and and uh

525
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Speaker 6: be a little bit more aggressive in their game plan.

526
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think, you know, it sounds cliche, but

527
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Speaker 6: there's always away to win every game. And the way

528
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Speaker 6: they approach that game in Seattle on the road against

529
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Speaker 6: that defense with the crowd, I thought was the appropriate

530
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Speaker 6: way to try to win that game. And again, the

531
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Speaker 6: defense allowed you to stay in that game. But inevitably,

532
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 6: you know, you're just shoot two hundred and fifteen yards

533
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 6: of offense and just a hair over sixty of that

534
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 6: comes in second half and only four first downs past halftime.

535
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Speaker 6: That's just not a winning formula. Everybody knows that. So

536
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Speaker 6: we're going to see if Phil Philip Rivers can implement

537
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Speaker 6: more of the you know, the intermediate part of the

538
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Speaker 6: passing game and get guys like Peterson Pittman a little

539
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Speaker 6: bit more involved.

540
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Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie, So we haven't gotten totally into

541
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Speaker 1: helium tank category, but it sounds like Matt's taking a

542
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: couple of hits off the balloon of it, right, isn't

543
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Speaker 1: that right? Okay, Matt, we working through some of the

544
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: kings here with the move occasionally it will kind of

545
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Speaker 1: speed up somebody's voice.

546
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Speaker 3: So at the end and you're you're a team player

547
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Speaker 3: in this.

548
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Speaker 1: We've gotten Now, let's see, we've got Joela Ericson, We've

549
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: got Don Fisher. Now not Don Fisher, Stephanie White, Joela

550
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: Ericson free if we've had a couple of really good

551
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: follow the yellompic roads and we're gonna get one from

552
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: you on the way out, and then kind of judge

553
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: you versus others to see how good a member you

554
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Speaker 1: are of the Lollipop Guild.

555
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Speaker 6: Okay, I said, like Alvin and the Chipmunks paper, what's

556
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 6: going up?

557
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit like Theodore a little bit.

558
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Speaker 1: Can you tell me that you want a hula hoop?

559
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: Can I just get you say he'd like a hula

560
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: hoop for Christmas?

561
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

562
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Speaker 6: Chris Mas, Chris math No, come on now, I can

563
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 6: jive with you. All right.

564
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Speaker 3: The laugh is strong as well.

565
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Speaker 1: But while we have you, before we go full helium here,

566
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Speaker 1: what do we know about San Francisco And just maybe

567
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Speaker 1: what Shane Stikeen has said in terms of the challenge

568
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: they create or the areas that the Colts can exploit.

569
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean defensively, you know, I think there's some

570
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 6: remnants of the Gus Bradley approach and his methodology on defense.

571
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Speaker 6: I mean, you kind of look at them on the

572
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Speaker 6: big picture on that side of the ball. I mean,

573
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Speaker 6: first of all, they've just been ransacked with injury with

574
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Speaker 6: with Nick Bosa out and then you've got the injury

575
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 6: to Fred Warner. They're all Pro linebacker. Those guys are

576
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 6: out for this season, and it's not really I mean,

577
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 6: unless you live in the Bay Area and you're a

578
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 6: die hard forty nine Ers fan, there's not a lot

579
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Speaker 6: of household names left on that side of the football.

580
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Speaker 6: But collectively, you know, they're kind of middle of the

581
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Speaker 6: pack defensively, you know, right in line with the Gus

582
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Speaker 6: Bradley era here with the Colts. They give up a

583
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Speaker 6: high completion percentage, right around sixty eight percent. So you know,

584
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Speaker 6: they don't do a lot of things great. They don't

585
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 6: do They're not deficient in a ton of areas. But

586
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Speaker 6: the one area that they really just don't get a

587
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 6: whole lot of production from is their pass rush. They

588
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 6: only have sixteen sacks as a team through the first

589
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Speaker 6: fourteen games of the season. I think they only have

590
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Speaker 6: three guys on the roster right now that have more

591
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Speaker 6: than three sacks on the year. And then again, I

592
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 6: think it probably goes without saying. On offense, the the

593
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Speaker 6: trio of Brock Purty and Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle.

594
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 6: I mean, those guys kind of drive the ship on

595
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 6: that side of the ball. You know, wide receivers are involved,

596
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 6: but not greatly. It's it's more so the Kittle and

597
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 6: McCaffrey show. And then it's just kind of a little

598
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 6: bit of a sidebar. It's gonna be fun with with

599
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey on the same game field

600
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 6: for the first time in their careers, right it's gonna

601
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 6: be the first time to actually play quote unquote against

602
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 6: each other, even though you know both guys are on

603
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 6: an offense. You get what I'm saying. But these guys

604
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 6: are both top three in scrimmage yards this year.

605
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 5: They're each of them.

606
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 6: Are over two and fifty carries on the season, so

607
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 6: heavy workload for their respective running backs in this game.

608
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 6: And then with McCaffrey, as we know too, he's one

609
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 6: of the best pass catching backs out of the backfield

610
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 6: since he broke in the league in twenty seventeen, so

611
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 6: you got to know where McCaffrey is twenty three, and

612
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 6: then keep an eye out for George Kittle, because those

613
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 6: two guys are basically the stars of their show. On offense.

614
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: Okay, Matt on the way out, and I'll give you

615
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: your your pick here. You can give me a line

616
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: from Alvin. You can give me a we represent the

617
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: Lollipop Guild, or you can give me a follow of

618
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: the Yellow Brick Road.

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Speaker 3: Which one would you like?

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Speaker 6: Well, you said the other guys went went with the

621
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 6: with the Wizard of Oz. So give me Alvin. Give

622
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: me give me an alvinism.

623
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Speaker 3: What I guess you would just say that you want

624
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: a hula hoop for Christmas? Right?

625
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

626
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: I mean, how about this? You simply say, uh, I

627
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: just want to wholah hoop.

628
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: But you got there, you go and just in your

629
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: normal voice, you don't need to alvanize it. The ur

630
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: elixer does it for you.

631
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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna piss off Dave Seville real quick and

632
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 6: get everybody riled up here. So me I want ah.

633
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: All right, enjoy of course, you know we got a

634
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: Monday show to do as well. And then Monday Night football.

635
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: It will be the Indiana Night's version of the Colts

636
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: uniforms and the San Francisco forty nine ers appreciate it.

637
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 6: Matt, all Right, that was not on my bucket list

638
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 6: today or my beingo guitars.

639
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't even.

640
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 6: A day in the life in this show man, Holy smoke.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Eddie, Eddie, I think on the floor now