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Speaker 1: It's eat drink smell. I'm Tony Katz. And that right

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Speaker 1: there is America's favorite amateur drinker fingers, my boy. And

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Speaker 1: this is the Burning Chair Bourbon whiskey. There you go, Oh,

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent corn, which would denote what fingers, mooy?

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Speaker 1: What did you say? It's I was putting the bottle back.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Seventy five percent corn sweet? It's to be sweet.

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Speaker 1: It should be sweet. See that? See that. You hang

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Speaker 1: I had never heard of it. I had never ever

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Speaker 1: and Tobacco, and trust I said, I don't know about

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Speaker 1: And it was one of the first thing's fingers said.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea how it was aged, where it

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Speaker 2: the mash bill Right, I'm good at home, but I

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Speaker 1: And it's a pretty color, right, So not as ambers.

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Speaker 2: It's because you looked at me before we started and

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Speaker 1: I didn't, Oh, but I should have. Oh that's sweet,

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Speaker 1: it is the holiday season. It is the pumpkin spice season,

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Speaker 1: Fingers Mylin, Where everything big and small, everything expensive or free,

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Speaker 1: is pumpkin spice. Your your mailman smells of pumpkin spice,

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Speaker 1: even more pumpkins spicier. It's really the season of joy, sea, drink, smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite

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Speaker 1: pumpkin spicer. Fingers molloy Starbucks. They've got their new holiday

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Speaker 1: cup designs. Aren't you excited? Oh, I'm gonna go and

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Speaker 1: and it's got a ribbon. Can we move on? Please?

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Speaker 1: buy overprized coffee. The logo is a what it's a

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Speaker 1: was Jerry West that that's the NBA. Oh, I've got

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Speaker 1: the wrong story. Open Yes, Starbucks. So I'm so proud

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Speaker 2: Uh so confession because I know how you feel about Starbucks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am not so much impressed you will go to

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Speaker 2: I have for my home machine there not going out,

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Speaker 2: a lot of Starbucks coffee lately, ground coffee. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Well listen, I'm not going to tell you not to

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Speaker 1: buy something on sale. I am. You're gonna judge me, though,

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Speaker 1: I'm not judging you fingers. Of all the things I

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Speaker 1: the list. You think that even makes the top forty three.

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Speaker 2: You Over the years, you have made your opinion known

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Speaker 1: Starbucks can can go bite? What so? Something I said

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Speaker 1: Starbucks is what you do in a pinch. Starbucks is

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Speaker 2: Apparently, No, many Americans disagree with you, and they run

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Speaker 2: to get not only do they get the expensive coffee.

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Speaker 1: How much are these cups? Seriously?

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Speaker 2: Are these are the cups that come with the coffee? Oh,

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Speaker 2: you don't spend extra to get No, you're not collector?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, these are our regular cups that you

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Speaker 1: then throw away and destroy the environments with you. Don't

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Speaker 1: I mean the people who are really, really passionate about

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Speaker 2: Let me let me take you back, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: to a simpler time. It was back in the nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventies when McDonald's the Golden Arches used to release collector

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I almost got a set of McDonald's

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Speaker 1: rocks glasses. I'm sorry. They have rocks glasses. They are

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Speaker 1: Hawaii themed, Hawaiian McDonald's rocks glasses. I missed out on

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Speaker 1: the bid on Facebook marketplace. I tried to get them.

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Speaker 2: I have almost, on several occasions purchased McDonald's ash trays.

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Speaker 2: But the only thing that stopped me is they know

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Speaker 2: And they're way too small for cigars, right, But they're awesome.

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Speaker 1: Right, And McDonald's. So McDonald's it was you can buy

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Speaker 1: This is a maddening thing that's going on here. Fifty

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Are you looking up? We hawking? No?

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Speaker 1: Is it something? I? No? I listen, I completely agree

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Speaker 2: The other thing that we need to have a discussion

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, your house doesn't have to have granted, lemon

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Speaker 1: it is fine. Shut up, eat, drink, smoke in your cigar,

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Speaker 1: bourbon footy extravaganz. I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers of looy.

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Speaker 1: fifty four seven dollars a stick. Yes, please, It's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I I would argue that it could very

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The spice is definitely there. There, there is a

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Speaker 1: it's just nice. You're like, this is good, this is good.

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Speaker 1: Seven bucks sold, done, complete and there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: It makes me wonder, do you would you like to

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Speaker 1: I want to see everything in a milkshake. So there's that.

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Speaker 1: If I put this on some cubes, I'm going in.

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Speaker 2: He's going back in, Ladies and gentlemen, let's hope that

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Speaker 1: Doing the Memphis munch sagon. I swish. He looks better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't look like he's in pain.

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Speaker 1: That's good. That's always a good sign. Yeah, that that

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Wow are you just said proof? Are you just having

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Speaker 1: nice bit of flavor. Fingers is going in adding just

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Speaker 2: See to me it it brought out a little bit

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Speaker 1: I got more of a caramel. You're getting more of

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Speaker 1: Neat So Fingers, you per just this just the other day,

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Speaker 1: Fingers molloy, is this in your liquor cabinet? What did

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Speaker 1: it's a definite no. So if it were fifty five dollars, yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they stopped. They discontinued the penny. The

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, well, I think based on people being able

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Speaker 1: I could see people doing it. I could see people.

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Speaker 1: The burning a chair, bourbon right there. Check it out

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Speaker 1: for yourself. It is time, Fingers beloway for news of

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Speaker 1: Where is the starter home? Where does one get a start?

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Speaker 1: That is a real argument. I don't want that dismissed

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Speaker 1: But your point is well taken. If you aren't creating

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you may see a re examination of people

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Speaker 2: But what I was going to bring up a news

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Speaker 2: Foreclosures surge twenty percent as Americans struggle to pay their

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Speaker 2: It's it's going to happen. I think where people need

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Speaker 2: the commercial real estate market.

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Speaker 1: So there's a real question that hasn't happened already when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting to see how as

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Speaker 2: Are we going to see more of these foreclosures moving forward.

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Speaker 1: we see large scale layoffs like Amazon and ups in

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Speaker 1: favor of AI and I don't know if that's even

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Speaker 1: gonna work out for them. Yeah, we could have further

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Speaker 1: bad things on the horizon. Thanks for reading the good news,

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Speaker 1: Shalla La lat. Only half the homes in America have

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Speaker 1: cable fingers one, really, that's a true story. I get

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Speaker 1: all my TV via closed circuit T Drink Smoke. I'm

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz. That is fingers bellow. I find everything at Eat, Drink, Smoke,

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Speaker 1: show dot com. Only half the homes in America have

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Speaker 1: cable TV. But the when you take a look at

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Speaker 1: streaming services and you add that price together, you might

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Speaker 1: as well have cable TV if you took the seven

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Speaker 1: most popular right, your your Netflix, your Hulu, your Disney

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Speaker 1: plus your Apple TV, you got your you got your

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Speaker 1: peacock there, you got your Paramount plus and a missing

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Speaker 1: a missing one. Let's say I'm missing one. I had

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Speaker 1: done the math on the basic plans. The cheapest plan

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Speaker 1: seventy two dollars. That's what you're paying them up and

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Speaker 1: nobody has the cheapest plans. So and people have every

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Speaker 1: streaming service under the sun, and they're paying one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: And there's a story in the Wall Street Journal about

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Speaker 1: how streaming services have gone up, and Disney is up

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy three percent in cost from where

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Speaker 1: it started. But in the end, everything is really in

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Speaker 1: that seventeen to twenty five dollars category. There are like

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Speaker 1: Paramount plus you can get for twelve dollars, right, that's

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Speaker 1: twelve dollars, not twelve ninety nine a month. But those

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Speaker 1: will eventually go up. People are paying the max for

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Speaker 1: as few commercials as possible and some extra added features.

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Speaker 1: It's just as expensive as cable. Why is it better?

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say that isn't this what we asked

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Speaker 2: for for? You know, twenty thirty years ago we were

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Speaker 2: screaming at cable companies to give us an ala Kart

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Speaker 2: service where instead of having to get a big package

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Speaker 2: of a cable service that included channels that we weren't

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Speaker 2: going to watch, you could pick and choose your channels. Well,

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Speaker 2: now you have an option of choosing the streaming service here,

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Speaker 2: the streaming service over there. There you can get by

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Speaker 2: with very little invested in your entertainment if you're willing

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Speaker 2: to not if you're willing to miss out on every

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Speaker 2: hot new TV show on the planet, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you can get on Pluto TV. It's free and there

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Speaker 2: are hundreds of stations on there now. Some of the

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Speaker 2: channels and the content maybe a little long in the tooth.

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Speaker 2: Yes that you know one of the stations that I

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Speaker 2: will tune into from time to time. And you and

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Speaker 2: I have talked about how we both were big fans

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Speaker 2: of Johnny Carson. There's a Johnny Carson channel. Yes, there

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Speaker 2: are old you know, the Andy Griffith Show channel. But

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Speaker 2: there are free options out there as well. So you know,

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Speaker 2: while I do agree that cable has gotten out of control,

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Speaker 2: there are options out there that you can you can

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Speaker 2: stretch your entertainment dollar and not break the budget.

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Speaker 1: about the cable half the people have cable. How many

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Speaker 1: the cable comes with it. The basic cable's just part

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Speaker 2: I also think that another segment of the cable purchasing

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Speaker 2: customer is a season citizens like a finger smoly senior

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Speaker 2: that wants his cable TV. He wants a cable box,

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Speaker 2: he wants to be able to switch the chance and

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Speaker 2: he doesn't want to go to fifteen different apps to

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Speaker 2: get his entertainment.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very true as well. It's what you're

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Speaker 1: used to, it's what you're comfortable with, and you're not

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Speaker 1: buying into some television or really it's not television, it's

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Speaker 1: content trends. Right, The big giant screen that sits in

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Speaker 1: your living room is nothing more than a content delivery device.

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Speaker 1: It's the screen, that's all it is, and everything else

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Speaker 1: is the app to which you are getting that content.

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Speaker 1: I there was a moment there where everything that all

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Speaker 1: this content that was being created for TV was incredible.

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Speaker 1: It was like a golden age of television. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we're there anymore. Do you think that we're

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Speaker 1: still in a place. I mean, there's a stuff Taylor

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Speaker 1: Sheridan is doing with like Landman and some of those shows.

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Speaker 1: Are we in a place of spectacular TV? And I

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Speaker 1: can buy the way I can point to good television shows.

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Speaker 1: The a fan fair around things like Severns for example, right,

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Speaker 1: gets people very very excited.

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Speaker 2: I have just sat down and watched a new television show.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm binge watching. It's called The Crown. It's

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Speaker 2: brand new. It just came out. People are really really

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Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 1: It didn't just come out. Oh and how How did

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Speaker 1: missus molloy sucker you into this? She didn't.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to watch it only because I've seen several

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Speaker 2: clips online through the instagrams there uh and it was

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Speaker 2: all of John Lithgow playing Winston Churchill, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of Churchill in this. I'm I'm a

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Speaker 2: middle aged man. I'm into Churchill, so I want to

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Speaker 2: watch the show. You know what I'm finding out little

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Speaker 2: of it has to do with Winston Churchill.

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Speaker 1: Shocking, shocking. I say, you want something that's shocking, we see,

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Speaker 1: we would do it. Fingers Maloy, what did you eat today?

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Speaker 1: As you well know, Fingers Maloy has the worst diet

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Speaker 1: in the history of mankind. It doesn't come from a

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Speaker 1: convenience dore or a gas station. Fingers Willy says, I

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Speaker 1: don't touch that stuff. And today he said, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to know what I had today? So okay, now

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Speaker 1: I want to know Fingers is going to tell us

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Speaker 1: what he ate today, and then we will ask the

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Speaker 1: age old question, Fingers Maloy, how are you still alive? Fingers?

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Speaker 1: What did you eat today? Well?

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Speaker 2: I started out the morning at a gas station. What

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Speaker 2: and this gas station has breakfast sandwiches pre made sausage,

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Speaker 2: egg and cheese biscuit.

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Speaker 1: Oh that sounds the life.

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Speaker 2: And right next to the sandwiches there's a little tiny

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Speaker 2: compartment with windows that you open up and they have

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Speaker 2: donuts in them.

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Speaker 1: I believe they're called doors. Oh wow, what did I say? Windows? Windows?

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Speaker 1: But the windows with handles doors? And in that they

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Speaker 1: had the donuts.

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Speaker 2: And so I got one of those chocolate covered Long

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Speaker 2: John's with a creamy filling in.

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Speaker 1: The middle and the breakfast sandwich. Yes, and I chased

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Speaker 1: it with a forty four ounce diet coke. That was breakfast.

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Speaker 2: For lunch, I had a Missus Fresh Lea's honey bun

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Speaker 2: not frosted, and a.

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Speaker 1: And a Pepsi zero.

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Speaker 2: And then on my way to eat drink Smoke Studios,

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Speaker 2: I had a big Mac with a medium fry, a

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Speaker 2: diet coke and a holiday pie.

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Speaker 1: Holiday pie? Is that real? Yes? You've never had a

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Speaker 1: holiday pie from McDonald's. You know what. I don't have

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Speaker 1: the time to get into that now. We asked the

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Speaker 1: question that has confused scientists for eons. Fingers, myloy, how

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Speaker 1: are you still alive?

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Speaker 2: I did two burpies this afternoon. I feel fantastic.

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Speaker 1: That is I I had. What is happening? We need

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Speaker 1: to get your holiday pie. Clearly, we need to get

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Speaker 1: me a holiday pie. Smoking from La Aurora in nineteen

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Speaker 1: oh three, Cameroon five and three quarter by fifty four

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Speaker 1: seven dollars a stick. Yeah, all day. It's a nice cigar.

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Speaker 1: It is worthwhile to have a few of those in

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Speaker 1: the humid or the burning chair. Bourbon right here coming

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Speaker 1: in at fifty four dollars at ninety nine cents a bottle.

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Speaker 1: Finger says yes, I'd say probably in the liquor cabinet

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Try it yourself. Just threw

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Speaker 1: off a lot of heat to me. Find everything we

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Speaker 1: do on the podcast revenution. You get your podcasts just

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