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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Fan Morning Show with Kevin Bowen, James Boyd.

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Speaker 1: I'm jeff Rickard once again. Caleb Zuver. Back in the

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Speaker 1: building is Mark Dyked and Bass in the Monday night

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Speaker 1: football win for the Chicago Bears. I suppose Caleb, you've

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Speaker 1: been doing this a couple of days. Now, how was

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Speaker 1: the alarm clock treating you so far? Now that it's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 2: I am gonna have a slight admission to you guys. So,

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Speaker 2: I know we talked about it as everybody's getting in

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Speaker 2: the studio this morning, but yesterday there it was on

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Speaker 2: the board that I was going to sleep through my alarm.

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Speaker 3: I'll admit it on these airwaves. It happened.

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Speaker 2: My roommate, thankfully, was kind of getting around in the

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Speaker 2: morning and he ended up kind of waking me up

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Speaker 2: a little best love it. Thanked him for that. But

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Speaker 2: now today I was like, there's no way I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: wake up before my alarm this morning.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're here and you've been here every day and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate that you've been doing a fantastic job. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: James Boyd and Kevin, and I'm just curious I missed

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Speaker 1: this and James. I guess I'll start with you. I

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Speaker 1: missed Ashton Doolan getting in for one play on defense

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Speaker 1: the other day against the Cardinals. I completely didn't see that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, saw it, and I will trol him this week

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Speaker 4: and tell him he was unsuccessful because they picked up

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Speaker 4: a third and seventeen I believe on that play. So

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Speaker 4: if for as much as we enjoyed the wrinkle and

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Speaker 4: the versatility of Ashton Dulan, I got to ask him

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Speaker 4: today when I see him in the locker room, how

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Speaker 4: come you didn't get home for the sack of high

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Speaker 1: And Kevin Bowen. I guess this is something Lewenn and

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Speaker 1: Rimo had kind of tossed around in his head last week,

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Speaker 1: and apparently if Kyler Murray had played, Ashton Doolan was

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Speaker 1: on defense. Just kind of spying on him, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had to laugh.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, boy, Jacoby Verssett, we're now spying against him.

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Speaker 3: That might be the first time an NFL team has

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Speaker 3: looked at Jacoby Weresett in that light in their lives.

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Speaker 3: But yes, the Colts put that in for a Kyler

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Speaker 3: It made sense. Ashton Doolan is an exceptional gunner, a

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Speaker 3: great tackler, and the thought was, could you kind of

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Speaker 3: or whoever the quarterback would been over to a also stunting

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Speaker 3: Ashton Dolans. Basically, he lined up kind of as a detackle,

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Speaker 3: if you will, standing up as a blitzer. On third down,

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Speaker 3: came around the edge of running back, picked him up

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Speaker 3: very nicely, and that was the third and seventeen play,

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Speaker 3: one of the several long down in distances the Arizona

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Speaker 3: Cardinals did convert. So I can imagine Michael Pittman Junior

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Speaker 3: and a slew of other offensive players might be knocking

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Speaker 3: on Luian Arumo's door, like, wait, you're gonna blitz Ashton Dolan.

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Speaker 3: I'm available.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much of want to play defense

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Speaker 1: and getting Michael wants to play He might Michael Pittman Jr.

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Speaker 1: He seems like the kind of guy that just is

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Speaker 1: in love with the Oklahoma drill. Right.

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Speaker 3: I have said it a thousand times. I apologize and

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Speaker 3: in a week like this and on an anniversary like today.

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Speaker 3: It just makes me want to puke that I say

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Speaker 3: this out loud. But there is no usc pretty boy

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Speaker 3: in Michael Pittman Jr. Did you see him get into

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Speaker 3: it with the Arizona guy and then he showed it

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Speaker 3: last night and when they had the sounds of the

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Speaker 3: game with Daniel Joe owns Michael Pittman Jr. Wrestling with

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Speaker 3: an Arizona defender, Daniel Jones very lately. Get up pet.

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Speaker 3: I was waiting for Daniel Jones to get down there

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Speaker 3: with him, you know, kind of tag team right on

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Speaker 3: the ground. But I think that's Michael Pittman Junior's territory.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, speaking at Daniel Jones and the micd up, I

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Speaker 1: saw one cut up the whole thing where it was

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Speaker 1: like a minute and a half long of him doing

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Speaker 3: A word James.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty much how the interviews go. But I

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Speaker 4: He must have said something though, because the Cold signed

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Speaker 4: another quarterback yesterday and correct me if I say his

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Speaker 4: last name wrong, is it Brett Ripian Ripping? Brett Ripping

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Speaker 4: for it. I missed it myself. Shout out to one

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Speaker 4: of the commenters on the Athletic when I posted my story,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Brett Repping the third quarterback Minnesota last year,

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Speaker 3: we're just still awaiting kind of fish award on the

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Speaker 3: have to, I would assume make a fifty three man

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Speaker 3: roster move with Brett Rippin. But yeah, not a ton

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Speaker 3: on the resume, to be honest, and you know, not

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Speaker 3: really a lot of Colts overlap here. Four starts in

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Speaker 3: his career, undrafted out of Boise State, Yes, Rippin. Mark

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Speaker 3: probably remember the name Ripping probably quite well, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark was a successful in the playoffs for the

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Speaker 3: Yeh'bout of retirement, right, So with the Colts, I think.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, did not play for three years and it's beant

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Speaker 1: All right. So a lot to talk about with the

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Speaker 1: the athletic. A lot of folks like what the Colts

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Speaker 1: to be a pretty good Chargers team this weekend, James,

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Speaker 1: is that kind of what you're getting from your compatriots

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Speaker 6: Compatriots quite the word, But I would say.

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Speaker 3: Not really.

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Speaker 4: I would I think a lot of people are believing

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Speaker 6: Like you said, it is a bigger test against the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: But I think the margin of victory, which you pointed

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Speaker 4: that really speaks to how well they've played. They have

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Speaker 4: not really close. I want to say they're in like

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Speaker 6: So yeah, they're you know, rolling in that degree.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the search of schedule could be better, I guess,

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Speaker 4: we laid out some pretty bizarre circumstances. You lose you know,

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Speaker 4: And he was like, you know what, I actually haven't

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Speaker 6: So in a way I want to tell.

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Speaker 4: Them, are you telling me we're too spoiled all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, you know, know what you guys are doing,

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Speaker 4: You've set the bar too high for yourselves. But no,

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Speaker 4: I do think it'll be a test coming up out

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Speaker 6: He's a very talented quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just curious, Kevin, as you look around the

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Eagles are struggling right now. Kansas

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Speaker 1: first six weeks of the season. Outside of the Colts,

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Speaker 1: what has kind of impressed you or given you like

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Speaker 3: Positively? Positively, it's easily Tampa Bay. I mean, with what

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Speaker 3: him Offensively, I get to the NFC South. It's definitely

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Speaker 3: if the playoffs started today, it'd be both Kansas City

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be hosting a home playoff game. You know, it

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Speaker 3: to Week seven and out of Buffalo, Baltimore, Kansas City,

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Speaker 3: only one will be in the playoffs, and that team

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, of course, the Lions have looked a

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Speaker 1: power coming out of the NFC. No one would have

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Speaker 1: predicted that the Cults are on top of the AFC

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Speaker 1: at this point in time. I guess the one team

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Speaker 1: they lost at Tampa Bay Man, if they get fully healthy,

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Speaker 1: I still with Kyle Shanahan and Christian McCaffrey. If he

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Speaker 1: Kittle back in the next few weeks. San Francisco just

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Speaker 1: feels scary alone. Yeah, they did lose a line.

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Speaker 3: Back with Fred Warner is a huge, huge injury. The

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Speaker 3: Cults will see him Monday Night Football coming up later

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so unpredictability, James, is that a fair thing to

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Speaker 1: say about this the NFL season so far?

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Speaker 6: That's how the NFL is every year, so yeah, I

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Speaker 4: I think that's why they honestly draw in the ratings,

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Speaker 4: besides playing once a week. But yeah, every game matters

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Speaker 4: and every game has that parody aspect to it, which

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Speaker 1: Good morning texts for turnings on wherever you are. However

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Speaker 5: Go for it?

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Speaker 3: Caleb's hands raised.

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Speaker 1: Caleb, Caleb, what happened twenty years ago today? Be you star?

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Speaker 1: So I was tackling the predictability of something that happened.

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Speaker 1: Indiana State hosts at Dayton. Marion has homecoming this week

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Speaker 1: Good morning, everyone, Welcome into the Fan Morning Show. It's

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday. If you're just joining us, Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for listening on ninety three five or one O seven

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Speaker 1: five The Fan at one O seven five Thefan dot

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Speaker 1: com any smart application, Kevin, go ahead and do your thing, Hey, Siri,

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Speaker 1: play one O seven five The Fan. What do you

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Speaker 1: like to say about it?

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Speaker 3: Alexa?

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Speaker 1: Alexa?

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Speaker 3: Either one played? Knuck If you buck.

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Speaker 1: Never get old, that'll never get old. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about you this morning when you commented on the anniversary

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Speaker 1: of the Toush Push this morning, Bush Push, Bush Push. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Toush Push, Bush Push, Bush Push

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Speaker 1: the Reggie Bush push. There's a big difference for you.

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Speaker 1: There isn't there there is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish it was the Toushbush.

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Speaker 1: James, you will appreciate this because you've grown fond of

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Speaker 1: my youngest son. If you met a couple of times now, Grant.

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Speaker 1: I'll be taking Grant to Los Angeles. We're going to

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Speaker 1: do a tour of USC on Friday. How about that,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 3: I hope you guys have a horrific time.

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Speaker 6: I hope you get there safe.

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Speaker 1: Look on Caleb's face when you said that just now.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to Sofi Sunday to watch Saturday Night.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back Saturday night. So looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Taking a trip with my sixteen year old who's not

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Speaker 1: ready to get his driver's license too. I am so psyched,

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Speaker 1: and you guys are nowhere near any of this. But

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Speaker 1: within the next thirty days, both of my sons teenagers,

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Speaker 1: will have their driver's license and I will be free

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Speaker 1: to enjoy my afternoons.

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Speaker 6: Questions about this?

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Speaker 4: So, how quickly do you give your kids the keys

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Speaker 4: as soon as they passed the driver's test? Because my

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Speaker 4: dad going to a still schol like, eh, I need

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Speaker 4: you to, you know, because I honestly think that people

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Speaker 4: pass driving tests who can't drive a lick. So my

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Speaker 4: dad was like, before I hand you the keys of

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Speaker 4: this car that I worked very very hard to get,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna need you to be in a few more

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Speaker 4: corners is safely before I just throw you the keys.

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Speaker 4: I think my first time I drove by myself anywhere,

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Speaker 4: it might have been like the barbershop or something.

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Speaker 6: I feel like I was such an adult.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what it was like for you, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: But now in Indiana you have to have forty hours

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Speaker 1: of daytime driving logged with a parent, you have to

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Speaker 1: have ten hours of nighttime driving. And you also now

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Speaker 1: basically do your driver's test through professional driving instructors who

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Speaker 1: you have a couple of appointments with and then their

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Speaker 1: last appointment. They're the ones that certify whether or not

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Speaker 1: you get your license or not. So it's fairly comprehensive

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Speaker 1: in this day.

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Speaker 4: So the question I have today to follow up is

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Speaker 4: do the hours log with the parents need to be

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Speaker 4: verified at all?

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Speaker 3: Because it sounds very shady.

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Speaker 6: I guarantee you, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: When Jesse Boyd was teaching James Boyd how to drive,

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Speaker 4: we lied about all those hours. He was like, all right,

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Speaker 4: at about fifteen, you know, you know where the break

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Speaker 4: is and shout out to Pops. His best advice he

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Speaker 4: ever gave me was don't hit anything that's not moving,

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Speaker 4: and that has worked out very well, for me.

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Speaker 3: I'll not forget. My dad thought drivers had for years

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Speaker 3: and when he would come home at night and my

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Speaker 3: mom be like, hey, how was you know driver's head today,

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Speaker 3: And it was always a good day when he said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we only had one kid turned left on red, And

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Speaker 3: like when I was, you know, thirteen fourteen, it didn't

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Speaker 3: don't get with me. And then now I go through

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Speaker 3: these intersections crazy, you know whatever, eighty second in Allisonville

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Speaker 3: or you know, some of these major ones, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: holy bleep, turning left on red. Oh my gosh, can imagine.

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Speaker 3: So the other day you're grateful for all of our

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Speaker 3: driver instructors out there.

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Speaker 1: The other day he's heading east on the four sixty

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Speaker 1: five and we're getting ready to get off a Keystone.

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Speaker 1: And now Grant, who's over thirty hours in the daytime

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Speaker 1: and over five hours at night, he starts commenting on

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Speaker 1: other drivers. Now, James, oh, Dad, look at that guy

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Speaker 1: right there. What's he doing?

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Speaker 4: I must say, I'm not really like that as a driver.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty calm, Honestly, I barely. I feel like I

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Speaker 4: only ever use my horn if you're going to hit

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Speaker 4: my car. Other than that, I mean, if you get

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Speaker 4: cut off whatever. I'm just like people are a little

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Speaker 4: too you know, crazy.

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Speaker 3: You ever throw a digit in the air, No, I

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Speaker 3: really have it.

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Speaker 4: I'm prot a pretty calm driver, honestly, and that's probably

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Speaker 4: because if you leave when you're supposed to, you get

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Speaker 4: places when you're supposed to get there. So yeah, I

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Speaker 4: feel like the race comes from dangam ared late and

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Speaker 4: this person make me more late.

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Speaker 1: It's The Fan Morning Show, ninety three five, one oh

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Speaker 1: seventy five The Fan. Big news for the Colts today

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Speaker 1: is they signed another quarterback yesterday. Is still on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad at this point in time. But for those

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Speaker 1: just joining us, Brett Rippin's twenty nine years old. He's

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Speaker 1: been around the league for a while. I think he's

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Speaker 1: made what five, four or five career starts. What more

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Speaker 1: can you tell us about him, Kevin? For those just

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Speaker 1: joining us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so most recently it was in Cincinnati. They've obviously

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Speaker 3: had their quarterback issues this season. So he spent last

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Speaker 3: year with Minnesota. There was a two month overlap there

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Speaker 3: with Daniel Jones. Ironically enough, I guess if you were

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Speaker 3: going to make out the Vikings depth chart when they

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Speaker 3: were there, Brett Rippon was the third stringer. Daniel Jones

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Speaker 3: the fourth stringer Daniel Jones on the practice squad in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: He then was cut by the Vikings ripping that is,

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Speaker 3: at the end of training camp this year, joined Cincinnati's

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Speaker 3: practice squad. Joe Burrow gets a toe injury, they bring

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Speaker 3: him up to be Jake Browning's backup. He only logged

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Speaker 3: three snaps as Jake Browning's backup, meaningless snaps of a

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Speaker 3: forty eight to ten blowout ironically against the Vikings earlier

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Speaker 3: this year, and then when they traded for Flacco eight

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Speaker 3: days ago, he got the scissors. James. You mentioned this earlier.

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Speaker 3: He was not among the lists of the four quarterback

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Speaker 3: tryouts no that the Colts had yesterday. Any of those

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Speaker 3: names stand out to you? Brylan reached out to me

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Speaker 3: and said on Twitter, these names remind me more of

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Speaker 3: utility infielders for the Tampa Bay Rays.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Driscoll, Jaren Hall, Tanner Mordecai and Kyle Trask would

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Speaker 3: be those four names.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the crazy, I mean they none of them hosted

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Speaker 4: out to me. Their resumes are what they are. I mean,

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Speaker 4: most of it is usually a handful of games you've started,

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Speaker 4: you've thrown more interceptions than touchdowns, which is the same

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Speaker 4: way with Brett Rippin. I think he's want to say,

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Speaker 4: he's thrown four touchdown passes and nine interceptions in eleven

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Speaker 4: career games, four starts. Overall, he's two and two as

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Speaker 4: a starter. But yeah, none of those guys who stood

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Speaker 4: out to me. But the unique one is Kyle Trask.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a guy who was a second

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Speaker 4: round pick in twenty twenty one, and I want to

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Speaker 4: say he has like never started in the NFL. Now,

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Speaker 4: granted he was behind Tom Brady and I leave Baker

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Speaker 4: Mayfield for years down there in Tampa Bay, so exactly

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Speaker 4: gotta get on the field behind those guys. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean this is a talented guy, at least coming

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Speaker 4: out of college who is now sort of like this

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Speaker 4: journeyman just trying to latch onto a team.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing we know in the NFL, you never

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Speaker 1: want your backup to take the field. There's maybe two

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Speaker 1: or three every year that you're like, oh, okay, we

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Speaker 1: can survive this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but second round picks usually Yeah, I mean he

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Speaker 4: driving down the second round a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: He's supposed to play well.

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Speaker 3: You don't want your backup to play. I was looking

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Speaker 3: up the other day, I want to say, and I

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Speaker 3: just did the last three years. I believe of all

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Speaker 3: the playoff teams in the NFL over the last three years,

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Speaker 3: I want to say, the numbers north of forty percent

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Speaker 3: had to rely on multiple quarterbacks to get through a season.

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Speaker 3: So you know, nearly half of the playoff teams in

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Speaker 3: the last three years had to have at least two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: You remember Cleveland few years ago, Remember when they finally

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Speaker 3: got to Flacco. I mean they had like four different

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks start and still made the playoffs. Shane Siken with

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Speaker 3: the Eagles both years Jalen Hurts didn't start every single

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Speaker 3: game for him, so you know he's had to deal

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Speaker 3: with that. And you know, James, you knows full well.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones has had injury history.

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Speaker 4: So yes, four of his first six seasons before coming

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Speaker 4: to Indianapolis, he's missed at least multiple games due to injury.

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Speaker 3: Now, if I'm Riley Leonard, I kind of look at

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Speaker 3: this and think, Okay, this is good. Brett Rippan is

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Speaker 3: not an eye popping resume. Brett Rippan has not been

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Speaker 3: the backup for a team very often in his career.

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Speaker 3: He's mostly been the third yeah quarterback in his career.

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Speaker 3: So this is not something to where the Colts went

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Speaker 3: out and we debated this yesterday. Would they spend a

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Speaker 3: draft pick? Will they try and trade for a knowing

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson is out for at least a month? The

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Speaker 3: Colts elected not to, and now we see how the

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Speaker 3: week plays out. I would guess they just want to

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Speaker 3: see how Brett Rippon can absorb the game plan, the playbook.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's mainly been kind of in the Sean

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Speaker 3: McVeigh tree, if you will, with Zach Taylor in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell of Minnesota, so you know how much overlap

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Speaker 3: is there with the Colts playbook. And then we'll get

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Speaker 3: to whatever Friday Saturday, and we'll see how they want

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Speaker 3: to divide it up. I assume all three quarterbacks will

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Speaker 3: address but they'll have to make a decision on who's

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Speaker 3: the backup and who's the emergency. And again, just to

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Speaker 3: clarify for everybody out there, the NFL changed this rule

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Speaker 3: a few years ago. Your third quarterback has to be

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Speaker 3: deemed the third quarterback, and that guy can only play

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Speaker 3: if injuries occurred to the starter and the backup. You

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Speaker 3: can't have your third quarterback be whatever Ashton Doolan and

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Speaker 3: use him in wildcat or something.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, can't do that.

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Speaker 3: You literally have to only have him in that position

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Speaker 3: to play, and so far Raley Leonard has been that until,

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Speaker 3: of course Sunday when Anthony Richardson got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Well, you hope that everything goes okay, but really it's

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Speaker 1: the offensive line that kept him pretty clean. Other than

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Speaker 1: him kind of putting his nose in other people when

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Speaker 1: he's running with the football, he's he's fared pretty well.

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Speaker 4: James Daniel Jones, Yeah that is, oh absolutely yeah. I

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Speaker 4: did ask Shane after the game if Daniel's three yard

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Speaker 4: touchdown run was designed, and he looked at me like

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Speaker 4: I was crazy, So but I thought, you, actually, if

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Speaker 4: you go back at the play, I wasn't necessarily sure

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Speaker 4: because when he bends the corner, there's a couple of

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Speaker 4: receivers out there blocking for him, and so it kind

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Speaker 4: of gives you the option, I guess, to run if

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Speaker 4: that's blocked up, or to throw it. And listening to

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Speaker 4: the micd up yesterday, Alec Pierce went over to DJ

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Speaker 4: and sold him, Hey, you didn't think he you know,

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Speaker 4: wanted to throw that one.

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Speaker 6: He's like, I didn't see you whatever.

654
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Speaker 4: So we saw a little bit of personality there from

655
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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. Like Kevin pointed out earlier in today's show,

656
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: I got a kick out of Michael Pittman Junior getting

657
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: into a tussle there at the foot of Daniel Jones.

658
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Speaker 4: But also I thought Dan, because that's who he is

659
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Speaker 4: when he gets into the scrums. I thought Dan stood

660
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: up for his guy a little bit, got you know,

661
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: got involved, got a little shoven match going there. So

662
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: there is some toughness to him, and it is kind

663
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: of cool to see the guy at least enjoy football again.

664
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Speaker 4: I know he talked about, you know, how how tough

665
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Speaker 4: it was. I believe it was on the Was It

666
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick podcast last week where he

667
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: talked about how hard it was sometimes driving back from

668
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: the stadium when he was a New York Giant and

669
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: you know, dealing with the pressure there, the losses, not

670
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 4: having success and you know, supposed to be the franchise

671
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: guy and it just didn't work out that way. And

672
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Speaker 4: now I wrote this in a story actually yesterday about

673
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 4: you know, possible quarterback signings. The first time in my

674
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: story was the coach needs a new quarterback, but not

675
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: for the main guy. Like he's been balling. And I

676
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: feel like every week that passes, we're asking the question

677
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: of should they extend him? And that question gets a

678
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 4: little bit louder with every week that he plays go football.

679
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, Obviously he's going to be on the shelf

680
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: for a little while now. But if Daniel Jones continues

681
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: this pace, he's the quarterback of the future for the

682
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. What now for Anthony Richardson? Do he in

683
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: his camp ask for another opportunity somewhere else? Do they

684
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: just kind of keep plugging away here? Like to me,

685
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: this is fascinating. This is a guy who just a

686
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: couple of years ago was a first round pick in

687
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Speaker 1: the top five And what's his trajectory at this point

688
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: in time?

689
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: You know, I prefaced in the nine o'clock hour yesterday.

690
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: I don't think we're there yet, but it is a

691
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Speaker 3: thought that's crossed my mind in the last forty eight hours.

692
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Speaker 3: Has Anthony Richardson put on a Colt jersey for the

693
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Speaker 3: last time again? I don't think we're there, but it

694
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: is a thought if whatever this injury lasts, I don't

695
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: know till Thanksgiving and the Colts get to Thanksgiving, they're like,

696
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: you know what, Daniel Jones is playing good football. We

697
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: like Brett Rippon, we like Riley Leonard. Let's just roll

698
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: with these three. Maybe that is how they'll handle it.

699
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not. Maybe you know, Richardson will be back

700
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: in a month or so and he'll get back right

701
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: to being the backup quarterback. But my best guess would

702
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: at the end of the season, yes, Anthona Richardson in

703
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 3: his camp and would like to go somewhere else, and

704
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 3: that's what happens. So again, he's under contract for one

705
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: more year through twenty twenty six. The Colts have that

706
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: team option that in all likelihood they will decline, of course,

707
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty seven. But that would be my guess.

708
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it still feels to me and I'm old

709
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: school this way. I think we press these these top

710
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: chosen quarterbacks in the upper part of the first round.

711
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: I think we're in such a hurry to have them

712
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: make a difference because of contracts and how much money

713
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: they're making and how it can help the team. Like

714
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: for every Jade and Daniels that you see that plays

715
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: well out of the gate, there's probably five or six

716
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: guys that just they're not ready for the NFL yet.

717
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: I saw a story yesterday games and maybe you guys

718
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: did two that the last four number one overall selections

719
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: at quarterback their coaches were fired within two seasons. Just

720
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: some guys just aren't ready. Not that they can't be,

721
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: but some guys just aren't ready right away, James, and

722
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: we want to make them ready right now. And I

723
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: don't know that that's necessarily the way to go.

724
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think the exception when Anthony is that

725
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: he didn't play football hardly at all, and so he

726
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: was like the anomaly of all anomalies that took a

727
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 4: huge swing on him. They bet on traits and physical

728
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: gifts in all of the above over experience, and it

729
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: backfire tremendously. So I think that's one of the biggest

730
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: things when you look at why he possibly hasn't worked out,

731
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: is he hasn't played football enough. I mean, this is

732
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 4: a guy who I want to say he only started

733
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: maybe one or two years when he was in high school,

734
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: only started one year at Florida and then obviously got

735
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: benched pretty early in his career in the NFL. So

736
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: he needs reps and he just hasn't had an opportunity

737
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: to get them. And to your point, Jeff, when you

738
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: get to the NFL, and I've talked to a few

739
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: people behind the scenes about this and just their perspective

740
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: on development in the NFL, but it's not a developmental league.

741
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: You can get better, certainly, and I think that is

742
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: part of the plan you draft any young player, but

743
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: if your baseline isn't where it's supposed to be, it's

744
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: hard to catch up. And I think Anthony's baseline in hindsight,

745
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 4: was never really where was supposed to be. And then

746
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: on top of that the injuries. I mean, the guy's

747
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 4: been hurt for most of his career unfortunately, and well

748
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 4: I can't say most, I'll say he's been hurt for

749
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 4: a significant amount of his career so far. And then

750
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: you have this latest injury that takes you out for

751
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: at least a month. So unfortunate for him, but again

752
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 4: talking to people behind the scenes, very fortunate that this

753
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: injury wasn't more serious than what it was, and he

754
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 4: like lose an eye or something like that.

755
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 6: So very scary scene for him.

756
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: With that again, a piece of the whatever he had

757
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: the band attached to breaking off and hitting him in

758
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: the So again, like I said yesterday on the show,

759
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: imagine someone standing fifty feet away from you and then

760
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 4: firing a fastball at your face. That's basically what happened

761
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 4: with him when he had his band attached to whatever

762
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: in the locker room and that broke and that piece

763
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: of that flew back of him in the face.

764
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Speaker 3: I'd forgotten that jj Watt is now calling games for CBS.

765
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: You know, usually I'm really only watching the Colts game

766
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 3: that's that week, But yeah, that'll be the call team

767
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: coming up on Sunday, Iron Eagle, jj Watt the Colts

768
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: do like his second team on CBS. So how do

769
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: you know you're starting to get a little bit more

770
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 3: national attention? Iron Eagle's calling your game. So jj Watt,

771
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: have you guys seen what Jeff maybe you have you

772
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: seen jj Watt do any games this year? Is he

773
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: any good?

774
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: I've said, Yeah, he's jj Watt. You saw him on

775
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: the set. I think a little bit last year or

776
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: even when he was done playing football in the playoffs,

777
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: he'd be on the set. He's well spoken, he obviously

778
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. I think he's done a

779
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: nice job so far.

780
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: So Colt's a one and a half point underdog with

781
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: the LA Chargers coming up on Sunday non quarterback news, Obviously,

782
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: where are you at from a Kenny Moore standpoint? I

783
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: get the feeling mood Award's gonna miss sometime. We'll see

784
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: how long that's the feeling. I guess, yeah.

785
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at what happens with concussion

786
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 4: is typically unfortunately, so he got injured before the game,

787
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 4: but you essentially treat it like it's if he were

788
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: injured in the game. So he missed the game already

789
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 4: because it happened an hour before kickoff. But then if

790
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 4: you look at it like he got hurt in the game,

791
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: so to speak, typically players miss at least one game

792
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 4: after that. And keep in mind, like you said, Kevin,

793
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: this is his I believe, second concussion in six weeks,

794
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 4: and so that is very concerning. Obviously, cornerback depth well documented.

795
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 4: We've talked about it a lot with the Chargers specifically,

796
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: and we'll see if they get Quinton Johnson back one

797
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 4: of their better whiteouts. They are the only team in

798
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: the NFL with three wideouts north of three hundred yards

799
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: this year. So that's Keenan Allen still getting done and

800
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: Lad McConkey, who made the play of the game last week.

801
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: So they are a very balanced wide receiver groups. So

802
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: your depth at corner again, this is you know, the

803
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: most balance of any wide out group in the NFL

804
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 4: that you're going to see on Sunday. So those would

805
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 4: be a couple of things to watch. But the Chargers

806
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: do have real warts and that's an offensive tackle. They

807
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: are incredibly banged up and their run defense has been awful,

808
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: so opportunities there. Obviously the Colts neither d line to

809
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: show up, which hasn't happened I think to the level

810
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: that you needed to, and Jonathan Taylor should be foaming

811
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: at the mouth, and what this opportunity looks like on

812
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: paper against the Chargers run defense that ranks near the

813
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: bottom of the NFL.

814
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see a lot of comments on the text

815
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: line this morning, and we appreciate all of them about,

816
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, potential moves that the Colts could make and

817
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe Anthony Richardson's part of that and some of them

818
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: are saying, like, for example, Joe says, send Ar Mitchell

819
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: and Pay to Cincinnati for Hendrickson, or Ar and Mitchell

820
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas for Crosby. I think sometimes we overvalue

821
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: the parts and pieces that we have and what other

822
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: teams James might even be interesting stood if it came

823
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: to trading. And I don't think Vegas is even considering

824
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: a trade for Max Crosby at this point in time.

825
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: If they were Ar and Ady Mitchell, you hang up

826
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: the phone and you tell him lose my number. Like,

827
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: I love you, guys, but let's be realistic here.

828
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: Video game trades.

829
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, this is not going to be successful

830
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: in the trade machine, even if you try to do

831
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: this online. So no, first of all, Max Crosby isn't

832
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: going anywhere like that, He's not coming here. You'd have to,

833
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: you know, then take on a huge, massive contract that

834
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: he just signed and he.

835
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: Seems like top player in the NFL.

836
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, like he's not going anywhere. Sag with Miles Garrett.

837
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 4: I get that he's frustrated with losing, but he literally

838
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: signed up for that when they told him, Remember he

839
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: wanted out, and then they gave him a big bag

840
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: of money, and he was like, you know what, it

841
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: ain't too bad living in Cleveland.

842
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 6: So he figured it out. He'll be fine as far

843
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 6: as train. He interesting.

844
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 4: I think he's the most realistic option, so to speak.

845
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 4: But it also depends on what the Bengals want to do.

846
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: Do they if they suffer a couple more losses, are

847
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: they becoming you know? There is a trade deadline to

848
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, prepare for a high draft pick

849
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 4: and try to recoup whatever they can to build another

850
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: team around Joe Burrow next season.

851
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 6: So we'll see all that unfolds.

852
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 4: But yeah, some of these people are just acting like,

853
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: you know, you could just offer up, you know, anything

854
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: and get you know something.

855
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 6: That's not how trades work.

856
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: Speaking of freak injuries, Did I see this correctly? And

857
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: maybe you guys saw this Purdue football Barry Odam squad.

858
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: One of their players didn't play against Minnesota because this

859
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: dog bit him.

860
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't see that.

861
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: I could have sworn I saw this, and maybe my

862
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 3: mind was, you know not, maybe I was.

863
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 6: Reading the googling this.

864
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: Now.

865
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Speaker 6: I hope you didn't get like.

866
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: And I think it was a big dude. I think

867
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Speaker 3: it was like a three hundred pounder dog bit them.

868
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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, I think in.

869
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Speaker 4: The foot Yeah here it is Sports Illustrated perdue defensive

870
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: second missus game due to dog bite. Man, remind me

871
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: never to get a dog. I'm like, my goodness, did.

872
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 6: You train them at all? My that's actually kind of scary.

873
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: You imagine walking around campus with that dog. Oh boy,

874
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: you talk about the sidewalks clearing for you real quick.

875
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: Saying no, walking around chimps with that Her dog is

876
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 4: biting a three hundred pounder that causes the player not

877
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: to play in the game.

878
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: That's a hell of a bite.

879
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: It depends on probably.

880
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: Say yeah, tell that to Mike Tyson.

881
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: Boy, it gives dogs a bad name. Most dogs don't bite.

882
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 6: You know.

883
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 4: And I'll give you a Dorothy Boyd classic. My grandmother

884
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 4: when I was walking with her throughout the streets of Chicago,

885
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: because she never learned how to drive. She was always

886
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 4: about public transportation, never really had to learn how to

887
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: drop them in Chicago. But whenever we saw a dog

888
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 4: walking home and uh Chatham in Chicago, and she was

889
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: just like, we're gonna go to the other side of

890
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: the street.

891
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 6: And I'm like, every time. Grandma.

892
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 4: She's like everybody says their dog don't bite until they do,

893
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: and they bite you. So shout out to grandma. I

894
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: have not been bitten by a dog, probably because of her.

895
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: Maybe the pretty football team needs to take a listen.

896
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 6: That's I honestly feel bad. That's scared.

897
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: They've got Northwestern right in Northwestern? Are they still in

898
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: that little stadium on the lake.

899
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: I think they're rebuilding. I think they're building a new

900
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: stadium at this point in time.

901
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 3: So they still playing that little I think right now?

902
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: Yes, until they got a cool environment.

903
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: Frankly, I think Northwestern football deserves that.

904
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: I think I called a game there once. Penn State

905
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: long time ago, like at the very last year of

906
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: Joe Paterno.

907
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: Oh boy, you are dialing them back.

908
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while.

909
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: I you four touchdown favorite? Am I seeing that? Right

910
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: over Michigan State, they should be well. Talking about Michigan

911
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: State falling off a cliff in the last decade.

912
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: They've had problems. They had some pretty good head coaches

913
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: for a while. They just have never quite gotten that

914
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: right at a certain point. And that's just so important.

915
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: As we've seen here in Indiana. I mean you get

916
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: the right guy, you're good for forever. You get the

917
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: wrong person, you can set the program back. And then

918
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: what happens that guy gets fired after two and a

919
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: half for three seasons, they bring in a new guy,

920
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: and if that guy doesn't work, now you're starting over

921
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: again in two or three seasons. And if you're not

922
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: really careful and hire a right guy at that point

923
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: in time to the cycle just keeps repeating itself. And

924
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: I think that's where Michigan State is right now.

925
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: Yes, And speaking of coaches, I would say that as

926
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: much as we've given some praise to Daniel Jones, where

927
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: does Shane Stiken.

928
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: Fall in the early coach of the year candidacy and

929
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 6: things like that?

930
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 3: Oh, he's got to be at the top of the list.

931
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll have a chance to perhaps store that question.

932
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: That's Stephen Holder here in a few minutes as he

933
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 4: joins us in the eight o'clock hour.

934
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: All right, In fact, he's gonna do that coming up

935
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: in just a few minutes here, we'll talk more about

936
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: the Colts and why they went and got Brett Rippon

937
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback yesterday and as opposed to other

938
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: players that were out there and available, we'll do that.

939
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: We'll also talk a little bit more about the upcoming

940
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: college and NBA seasons for basketball as we continue next

941
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: to ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

942
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Speaker 7: You were listening to about Fan Morning Show on Sports

943
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 7: Radio ninety three to five and one oh seven Fan.

944
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: Good Morning, eight o' clocker's welcome into the Fan Morning Show.

945
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, I'm jeff Rickard, Caleb Zoover over

946
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: there making everything happen on on the board and the

947
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: ones and two's doing a great job in relief of

948
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: Mark dyked In. This week, we've been talking a lot

949
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: about potential trades that the Colts could maybe look at

950
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: trade everybody likes to talk about that. I saw something

951
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: on CBO Sports that said, how about Bradley Chubb from

952
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, a guy that can come in and

953
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: doesn't have to play every single down, but has proven

954
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: in the past that he can provide a little juice

955
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: from the edge. Something like that. Kevin would be interested.

956
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: We'll see. I mean again, I think you can talk

957
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: yourself into defensive end. I think you could talk yourself

958
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: into linebacker. You can talk yourself into corner. But that

959
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: defensive line room is easily the most underwhelming bunch considering

960
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: all the investments into that group, and they're gonna be

961
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: a huge storyline coming up on Sunday against the Chargers

962
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: O line that has really banged up at Dolphensive Tackle.

963
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: One guy we love having under contract and no trade

964
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: in sight. Our guy, Stephen Holder, who joined us now

965
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: to talk Colts football from ESPN dot com on the

966
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: Payless Liquors Hotline. Good morning, Steven. You're not going anywhere.

967
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: You're like Kurt Signette. You're staying put right.

968
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 5: Well, hey, listen, I think that you always got to listen.

969
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 5: You know, you always got to listen to offer.

970
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 6: I'm a businessman, okay's high a mercenary.

971
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: I'm not making that commitment.

972
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: No, Well, welcome back into the Fan Morning Show. We

973
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: always appreciate you being here. Everybody's talking about could should

974
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: the Colts make any kind of move, especially on defense

975
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: before the trade deadline comes up in a couple of weeks.

976
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Where do you think Chris Ballard's appetite is for something

977
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: like that?

978
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 5: I don't think he ever has a huge appetite for

979
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: giving picks away because it's just not it's just not

980
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 5: his way.

981
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 6: But you will give a few of a way, Stephen.

982
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 4: You know, you don't want to be sitting in that

983
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 4: room with me next spring as a waiting for him

984
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 4: and trade back inevitably and we're all like groaning as

985
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 4: he does.

986
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: So true, that's true. Well, I mean, listen, if he

987
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: doesn't keep all those picks, how's he going to trade

988
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 5: down three times, you know and get more? Look, I

989
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 5: don't know I think that he I think that this

990
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 5: might be a unique situation though, right, I mean Chris Ballard,

991
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 5: so he's never been you know one, you know, so

992
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 5: I don't know that the past necessarily uh will we'll dictate,

993
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: you know, what they do here, because again this is

994
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 5: this is different. So I do think they're underwe by

995
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 5: this defense, this defensive front. If they're not, I want

996
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 5: to know why not, because I certainly am. I think

997
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 5: they're way too invested in this this front for it

998
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: not to be producing. But at the same time, that

999
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: may preclude them from you know, going further and taking

1000
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: on more salary there, you know, that's that's the reality

1001
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 5: that they have to think about too. Are very heavily

1002
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 5: invested there. It goes more money.

1003
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1004
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: I don't know. And then on the back end of

1005
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 5: the defense. I mean, honestly, I think they just have

1006
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 5: to weather the storm, or at least I think they can't.

1007
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,959
Speaker 5: They think they can weather the storm. You know. It's

1008
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: it's gone on along than I think they expected, though,

1009
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 5: and it's been bad. This is a tough week for sure,

1010
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 5: this matchup with the Chargers.

1011
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 3: Steven Holder from ESPN where you can find his work,

1012
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: he joins us every Wednesday. We always appreciate of Steven's

1013
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 3: time all over our airwaves. Steven, you were certainly one

1014
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: of the first and had a ton of details in

1015
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: regarding what exactly happened with Anthony Richardson for those that

1016
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: maybe have missed it. Could you just kind of paint

1017
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 3: a picture of best you know what occurred Sunday pregame

1018
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: with him.

1019
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know. You guys, those of us

1020
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 5: who are around the team, we were familiar with them

1021
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: using these stretching bands. They've been doing this for years.

1022
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: I mean I remember Andrew Lucky using them. That was

1023
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: the first time I recall seeing them. Anyway, They're they're

1024
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: pretty thick elastic bands. They used to get loose because

1025
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 5: you know, they put a lot of mileage on those

1026
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: arms every day. And as I understand it, he had

1027
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 5: his attached to a pole of some kind in the

1028
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 5: locker room. And this is not something that's just unique

1029
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 5: to Anthony Richardson. They all do it. Just so happened

1030
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 5: he's the one that had this misfortune and in the

1031
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 5: process of stretching with using that band, that pole snapped

1032
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,240
Speaker 5: and it impacted him in the face, obviously pretty forcefully,

1033
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 5: and he's got this broken orbitable orbital bone. So as

1034
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 5: I understand it, and just talking to other players, I mean,

1035
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 5: it was quite a scene. He was down the ground.

1036
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 5: I was told it almost you know, knocked him out.

1037
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 5: It was so forceful, you know, it's like getting punched

1038
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 5: in punched in the face practically. So just a really

1039
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 5: chaotic situation man. And I mean you talk about misfortune,

1040
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 5: I mean a bad break, no pun intended. I mean,

1041
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 5: this is this is awful. So yeah, it was. It

1042
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: was definitely it sounded comical at first, certainly, I agree,

1043
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 5: how do you hurt yourself with this band? Well that's

1044
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 5: not what happened. It was this poll that really hit

1045
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 5: him very hard and took him out.

1046
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: Frankly, honestly, if I'm Richardson, I'm looking around at the

1047
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 4: equipment staff or really anybody related to the Colts and saying, Hi,

1048
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 4: y'all gonna compensate me in my face because it sounds

1049
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: like he did with anybody else.

1050
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 6: But I'm actually not joking.

1051
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to laugh, but I'm looking at

1052
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 4: this like, wait a second, do you have some recourse

1053
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 4: you could take, possibly because it sounds like he did anything,

1054
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 4: didn't do anything wrong, ended up on the wrong side

1055
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: of obviously the incident. But to pivot to what has

1056
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: transpired since then, a cold sign Brett Rippen resume is

1057
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: what it is. Stephen wasn't all that great, But just

1058
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 4: your thoughts on bringing in him and him possibly being

1059
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 4: QB two or QB three depending on what chan second

1060
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 4: decides here over the next week.

1061
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 5: I mean my reaction is pray for Daniel Jones. Okay,

1062
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 5: let's just hope Daniel Jones stays upright. I mean, you know,

1063
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that there's any like imminent fear that

1064
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 5: he's going to be hurt, but I mean, look, I

1065
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 5: mean it could happen on any play. He could twist

1066
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: his ankle, he could take a bad step. Anything could happen, right, concussion, Right,

1067
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 5: I mean that happens all the time, right, I mean,

1068
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 5: so things do happen. So this is a theory, Okay,

1069
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 5: just a theory. I think what might be happening here

1070
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 5: is the cults are saying, all right, Richardson's going to

1071
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 5: be out. I guess maybe the four weeks or so

1072
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 5: is maybe what they're banking on. And if Daniel Jones

1073
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 5: has an end game injury in one of the two

1074
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 5: backup quarterbacks plays, they figure it out. If he has

1075
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: a longer term injury, you have to do something more

1076
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 5: substantial than this. That's what I would say if someone

1077
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 5: has to play multiple games. Look, I know a lot

1078
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 5: of you fans out there. You love Riley Leonard. I

1079
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: love Riley Leonard. He's great. I think he's a worker.

1080
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 5: I think he has a potential future. He's not ready, Okay,

1081
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 5: I'm telling you fans, he's not ready. And I think

1082
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 5: the Colts understand that. I'm not saying they wouldn't play

1083
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 5: him in a pinch, in a backup role off the bench,

1084
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 5: but they are not actively trying to play Bodie Leonard.

1085
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: I think with you guys, am I am I off base?

1086
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 9: Here?

1087
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 5: Am I missing something? Guys? You saw training camp right right?

1088
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 3: I would agree, especially once teams started to actually, like,

1089
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: let's say they needed Leonard for a couple of weeks steven,

1090
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: once they actually schemed and said, hey, spy Leonard, make

1091
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: him a pocket passer. You know again, anybody that watched

1092
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's playoff run, I mean Riley Leonard hardly threw

1093
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: any consequential passes until they were down a million against

1094
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 3: Ohio State. So yes, you know, his life of running

1095
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 3: like he did on the opening drive against Ohio State,

1096
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: probably not going to last in the NFL. Which but

1097
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: which is fin Like, I mean they drafted him to be,

1098
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: you know, developmental projects. Sounds like he's horrific, but like

1099
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: that was some of the thought there. I think sometimes

1100
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: you get into dat three quarterback picks. Some guys are

1101
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: like whatever, Curtis Rourke from Indiana, more of a finished project,

1102
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 3: and then other guys are a little bit more Riley

1103
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: Leonard battle some injuries, played in multiple colleges. You know,

1104
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: you feel like there's a skill set there that you

1105
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: want to tap into. And I think that was some

1106
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: of the colts thinking there.

1107
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. So, yeah, that's how

1108
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 5: I see it. We'll see, though. I mean, I think

1109
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 5: I think they would be in a tough spot if

1110
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: there was a multi week injury to Daniel Jones right now.

1111
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 5: So I don't think this way of thinking would continue

1112
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 5: if that happened. That's my theory.

1113
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 3: One thing going back to Richardson for a second again,

1114
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: Steven Holder from ESPN with the year Paylstickers hotline, it's

1115
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: not your impression that this is a season ending injury, correct, I.

1116
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 5: Don't think so. It doesn't sound like that. I mean

1117
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 5: the initially there was some uncertainty and possibility I think

1118
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 5: was discussed, but it sounds now and particularly after this

1119
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 5: move they made, I'm I'm starting to think that they

1120
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 5: settled on it being a shorter term absence. The last

1121
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 5: I heard, which was Monday or yeah, late Monday, I

1122
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 5: think there was the thinking was multiple weeks, but the

1123
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 5: NA season ending. So that's a big range. But that's

1124
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: kind of what I know so far.

1125
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder, ESPN dot Com. I'm just curious. We've seen

1126
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: a lot of praise for Daniel Jones and what he's

1127
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: doing with a great receiving corps that's done a nice job.

1128
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: And obviously Tyler Warren into the mix, and Jonathan Taylor

1129
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: has just been fantastic. Where do we put the role

1130
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: of Shane Steichen in all of this offensive success that

1131
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: is leading the league in scoring by a ways at

1132
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 1: this point in time.

1133
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 5: No, I mean, he is the He's the conductor of

1134
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 5: it all. I mean, like if this were if they

1135
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 5: were making an album, he's the executive producer and he's

1136
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 5: the guy making it all come together. It doesn't happen

1137
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 5: without that guy. You know, he's the SCORSESEI I guess,

1138
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 5: I don't know, something like that, But to use a

1139
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 5: movie analogy, I think Shane Stykeen is brilliant. I do.

1140
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 5: I don't say it enough. Shang Styking is brilliant, There's

1141
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 5: no question about that. I mean, how many guys have

1142
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 5: you seen wide open this year? Just? Why the hell? Okay,

1143
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 5: they're good players, I think a lot of their receivers,

1144
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 5: but I mean, come on, they're wide open that There's

1145
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 5: a reason for that, and it's because of what he

1146
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 5: is putting together in the game playing process. And that

1147
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 5: is Jim Bob Cooter as well, the offensive coordinator who

1148
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 5: he really does rely on a lot. So I'm telling

1149
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 5: you he has shaying being he he has this understanding

1150
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 5: of how to attack defenses at a high level that

1151
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: I don't think is typical. All right. There are a

1152
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 5: lot of good coaches out there, but they don't all

1153
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 5: I think, see the game at the level that Shane

1154
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 5: Styken does. And I remember when he got hired. I

1155
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 5: remember Frank Reich Okay telling me, and he had history

1156
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 5: with him. He knows he said, he said he is

1157
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 5: a potential offensive genius. That's what he told me. I mean,

1158
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 5: that says it, all right, And I think a lot

1159
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 5: of Frank w Reich's opinions. So I think you're starting to

1160
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 5: see that. And people around the league have told me

1161
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 5: the same thing, like this guy high level offensive offensive mind.

1162
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 5: That's like the consistent theme you get when you talk

1163
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: to people. So there's no doubt the cults are. I

1164
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 5: think you're starting to see that now with a quarterback

1165
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 5: of Daniel Jones caliber in terms of his understanding of

1166
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 5: the game, he has a quarterback who understands the game,

1167
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 5: you know, at a level that the coach does, and

1168
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 5: that's helping it all come together.

1169
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 4: Well, Steven I must say, now you got me going

1170
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 4: down the rabbit hole little bit. I should probably ask Shane.

1171
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if I should on the record off there,

1172
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: like who you listened to before the game, you know,

1173
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: as the producer or as the music. I'm picturing him

1174
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: like what dmx X gonna give it to you? When

1175
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: he's dolling up like his his playbooks for the week.

1176
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: It's just knowing that he's gonna get guys wide open

1177
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: for touchdowns, so I can.

1178
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 5: Probably like it seems weird. I don't know, he's weird.

1179
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 5: Might be like the Star Wars theme or something.

1180
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: I don't know, Man, I.

1181
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 6: Feel like it's gonna be a holder.

1182
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: I feel like it's got to be one end or

1183
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 4: the other of the spectrum where it's like he's sitting

1184
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: there in silence like a serial killer but no music

1185
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: at all, or he's vibing out to DMX and he's

1186
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: very rock and roll for his team. So last one

1187
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 4: I Got for you is And this is kind of

1188
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: a I guess a serious question, but with Lady Mitchell

1189
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 4: officially in active last week, do you think the Colts

1190
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: have taken the right approach with him after the blunder

1191
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 4: in l a against the Rams and really some of

1192
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 4: the mental mistakes he's made throughout the early stages of

1193
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: his career.

1194
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 5: I mean it's brutal. There's a question about that, right,

1195
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 5: I mean, although I look, I have criticized this kid

1196
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 5: as much as anybody, but you know that being said,

1197
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 5: look at it's like as a parent, which James knows

1198
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 5: nothing about. Look, you can screw up, right, right, yeah,

1199
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 5: take your time, takes time. Your kid can screw up

1200
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 5: and really deserve like severe punishment. But it's not fun

1201
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 5: punishing them, right, It's not fun to see them, you know,

1202
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 5: sit in the corner and be pissed and miserable that

1203
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 5: it's not fun. And I think that's that's what I

1204
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 5: think about when I see Saint Stychen right now, like

1205
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 5: he I don't think he's enjoying this, you know, but

1206
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 5: I think he felt like it had to be done.

1207
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 5: Oh it's really tough, Okay, no question about it. But

1208
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 5: I think you just laid it out. I mean, this

1209
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 5: isn't the only thing. If this were the first time

1210
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: we were talking about ad Mitchell in this manner, I

1211
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 5: might feel differently, but it is not. And it's not

1212
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 5: just this play It's not just negating the Jonathan Taylor

1213
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 5: touchdown later in that game. It's not even just the

1214
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 5: Denver play last season where he was I guess picked

1215
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 5: off for lack of a better word, on the trick play.

1216
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 5: It's not just those things. It is a consistent scene

1217
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 5: with him, the lack of execution, the lack of finishing plays,

1218
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 5: the lack of just playing with a seriousness. And I

1219
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 5: think they had to do this, or they felt they

1220
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 5: had to do this. And I will say this, I

1221
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 5: bet he never does it again. That's for sure. Right,

1222
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 5: he's going to go line and give that ball to

1223
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 5: the referee if he ever gets there.

1224
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: Till he does, I think he'll just run with it,

1225
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 4: like all the way back to the locker room.

1226
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 6: I mean, celebration there for Ady Mitchell.

1227
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm just very curious about that. But that's

1228
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 4: all I had as far as the wide receiver room goes.

1229
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: All right, Steve, thanks so much for being here. We

1230
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We will see you soon in a press

1231
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: box near us.

1232
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 5: All Right, you guys, got it.

1233
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 6: Hey, pick up the phone the first time when my

1234
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 6: boy Caleb calls. Okay, just just let's get that straight too.

1235
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 6: You know I'll see you like D and D on.

1236
00:56:59,440 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 9: D D.

1237
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 4: Mind you Stevenholders like six too, And I'm like, yeah,

1238
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: it's not gonna fly, James, or I'm punching above my weight.

1239
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 4: Glass there I'll see in a couple hours.

1240
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: He already hung up on us.

1241
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 6: Man, there we go. Well, I probably deserved it.

1242
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: It's Fan Morning Show with Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Caleb Zoom.

1243
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 6: Oh, I got your back. Brother.

1244
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: Caleb's arguing with his own dad on the text line

1245
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: right now.

1246
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well Mo chimes in. I just want

1247
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 3: to let the bow alone that.

1248
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: I can see his opinions that he might not share

1249
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: with me. You know, he probably likes to come off

1250
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: smart with you guys, but I have to check him

1251
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: every now and then.

1252
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: Wow, I need to see some of his mer Now,

1253
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: at what point, Kevin and you certainly don't have this

1254
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: with your kids. They're younger, and I've started a pinch

1255
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: with my oldest. They're starting to like, all of a sudden,

1256
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: try to check us. What's that all about? Well, I mean,

1257
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: what's that all about?

1258
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 4: I go home and a certain my dominance whenever I

1259
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: see my pops. Now, I'll tell him every time I

1260
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: see it. Hey, look, I tell him and my mom,

1261
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: if you wanted me to act better, you should have

1262
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: did that a couple of years ago. It's too late now,

1263
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: so be glad that I know.

1264
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 3: Put hand James Boyd sounds pretty darn exhausting.

1265
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 4: Oh it is, I'm sure it is. But they made

1266
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: me this way. You gotta understand, you know, serious is

1267
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: my house is just comedy. Whenever we go home, it's

1268
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 4: it's people just doing silly stuff all the time. My

1269
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 4: dad will go over to my sister and just stand

1270
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 4: over her for no reason, and vice versa. It's just

1271
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 4: that over and over again. So every now and then, yea,

1272
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 4: I got to remind Pops, hey man, you little watched.

1273
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: Now, next time they're in town, I want I want

1274
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: Dad on the show. Can we do that?

1275
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 6: Oh no, he ain't come on the show. No no.

1276
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: He told me he doesn't want to do any media ever.

1277
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: He's proud of me, but no.

1278
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: Put out a statement. There will be no media. Yeah. Nah.

1279
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 4: He always tells me like if he was ever like

1280
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 4: the father of an athlete or whatever, he would not

1281
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 4: want to be known at all, which sounds like a

1282
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: great life.

1283
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: Honestly. The ad Mitchell thing you asked Steven there. I

1284
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: think it's interesting, James, because they've certainly punished Dadie Mitchell.

1285
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: I get that the storylines have been all over the

1286
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: place the last couple weeks of the cult, so it's

1287
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: gotten a little loss in the shuffle, but uh, he

1288
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: was a healthy and active for the first time in

1289
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: his NFL life on Sunday. Yeah, and given how much

1290
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: Alex Pierce played and how much Michael Pittman Junior played,

1291
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm curious if this is gonna be how it is

1292
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Speaker 3: moving forward. Yahton Dulan only played one offense exap on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: So you know, again, when previously they have sprinkled eighty

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00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: and whatever five snaps a half something like that, you know,

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00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: basically have said, hey, we've got a wide out. We

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: like his skill set, you know, can we throw him

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Speaker 3: in against the third or fourth corner and kind of

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00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: lull you to sleep. Ady Mitchell runs out on the field.

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Speaker 3: You're like, wait, who's this dude, and you know we're

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00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: going to throw the ball to him. I mean they

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Speaker 3: throw a deep shot with Patrick Surtan on Adie Mitchell

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Speaker 3: in week two. They clearly have wanted to get the

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00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: ball in his hands here this season, you know, I

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00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: know Shane, you know, has expressed a little bit more

1305
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: optimism on where eighty is at this week than maybe

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00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 3: where he was at in previous weeks. But let's say

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00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 3: they have gone a little bit more the punishment scale

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01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: that I thought. I thought it'd be one week, but

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 3: they took it a step further in week two. So

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Speaker 3: I don't think we're at a point where, you know,

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Speaker 3: could he be traded with the trade deadline here in

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Speaker 3: a few weeks. I'm not there. I get that that

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01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 3: conversation would happen around the league anywhere when a second

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: round pick is a healthy scratch, you know, three weeks

1315
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Speaker 3: before the trade deadline. I understand why people bring it up.

1316
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm in that boat just yet, but

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01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: it has certainly been some accountability practiced here. Public accountability,

1318
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: actionable accountability. From Shane S. Dyking.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Fan Morning Show, it's time to check things

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Speaker 1: down and let you know what's happening right here, right.

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Speaker 7: Now, The Morning Checkdown on ninety twee five and one

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Speaker 7: oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 6: If you're just joining us.

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Speaker 1: On your way into work, or maybe you're on your

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Speaker 1: way home from work. Whatever the case may be. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for tuning us in. But we've been talking about the

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Speaker 1: Colt's latest acquisition. Yesterday they tried out a few quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and apparently they have made a decision James Boyd on

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01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: who they want to fortify their roster with right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're still waiting for the official transaction to be filed,

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01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: but Brett Rippen is going to join the Colts practice squad,

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Speaker 4: according to league sources.

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Speaker 6: And Brett Rippon is a.

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Speaker 4: Guy who went undrafted out of Boise State in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: I started at four games in the NFL. He's two

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Speaker 4: and two and he's thrown four interceptions I'm sorry, four

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Speaker 4: touchdowns and nine interceptions in eleven games overall.

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Speaker 1: So not the.

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Speaker 4: Greatest resume, but at this point in the year, not

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Speaker 4: one to trade for somebody.

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Speaker 6: Perhaps it will slim Pickens.

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Speaker 1: All right. So the Colts have, as I said, four

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01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: to fied their quarterback position at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: Last time we saw this young man, he was with

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals once they signed Joe Flacco. He was released

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Speaker 1: and Kevin and I had said a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: I saw him fill in for the Broncos. He was

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Speaker 1: two and one, so you know, for a short period

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Speaker 1: of time if they have to, and hopefully nothing ever

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Speaker 1: does happen to Daniel Jones. But maybe this isn't the

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01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: worst thing in the world.

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Speaker 3: Hasn't thrown a pass since twenty three in the NFL

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01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 3: three snaps for the Bengals earlier this year. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones as a cult has thrown more career passes

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Speaker 3: than Brett Rippon has, So yeah, I mean there are

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Speaker 3: varying degrees of resumes that they could have gone with.

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Speaker 3: I'd say this is one of the lighter ones. Not

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Speaker 3: a lot of obvious cult connection overlap outside of the

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones thing in Minnesota. And we'll see how the

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Speaker 3: week plays out, whether it's Riley Leonard one play away

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Speaker 3: or Brett Rippon one play away coming up on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Indiana Pacers, coming off a loss to the

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Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs at home the other night, will be

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Speaker 1: off for a couple of days before they finish their

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Speaker 1: preseason action at San Antonio on Friday night. I still

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Speaker 1: can't get over it because I've watched him a couple

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Speaker 1: of times, but watching Victor Wembanyama from the Spurs when

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Speaker 1: he had the tip back dunk where he might have

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Speaker 1: had a two inch vertical leap. It's just crazy to

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Speaker 1: watch that long, thin build play as effectively and smoothly

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Speaker 1: as he does. I don't know I'll ever get used

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Speaker 1: to it, but it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I audibly laugh probably five times on Monday night

1375
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: watching Victor Webinyama do things on the basketball floor. It

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 3: is Yeah, it's whatever third grader against a bunch of

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01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: toddlers on a you know, Fisher Prigh school.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that's coming away Friday night here on ninety three

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Speaker 1: five and one O seven to five the fan. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: major League Baseball, they continue the Championship series in both

1381
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: leagues last night. One game in the NLCS. The Dodgers

1382
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: get a great pitching performance from Yoshinobu Yamamoto, a complete game.

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01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: You don't see those much these days, and they beat

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01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: the Brewers by a score of five to one. Allowed

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Speaker 1: just one run, three hits, one walk in seven strikeouts.

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: He goes backed up by Teoscar Hernandez and Max Munsey

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01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: home runs, but they take a two games to none

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01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: advantage over the Joel ericson fighting Brewers, and both those

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01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: games were in Milwaukee. So James Boyd a guy who's

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Speaker 1: been converted out of watching playoff baseball. That's how it is.

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Speaker 1: Pitchers starting pitchers can dominate these series, man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've got just studs over there, right, I mean,

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: you're supposed to have what couple of aces and or

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01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: one ace or so to speaking, they have too, So varrettalent.

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Speaker 4: It's a group that certainly, you know, pass the pay

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Speaker 4: roll to support him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Later on tonight in the American League Championship Series, the

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Speaker 1: series shifts to Seattle after the Mariners won two games

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Speaker 1: against the Blue Jays, and it'll be Shane Bieber on

1401
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: the mound tonight going up against George Kirby for the Mariners.

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: So pretty good pitcher for the Brewers. They try to

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01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: get themselves back in it on the road tonight. That

1404
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: one starts at eight eight. Arenas vk has left dale

1405
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: Coin Racing and Keviny joins Hunko's Hollinger Racing. Probably the

1406
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: last big free agent on the market this year, and

1407
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: an here that we saw another big free agent make

1408
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: a move too.

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01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 9: Well.

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01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: Rena's had a really nice year and I thought last

1411
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: year he lost in the alex Plow historic season and

1412
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: Penske's issues on and off the track. I thought Rena's

1413
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: had a nice year, so good for him and getting

1414
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: a landing spot, and see if you can try and

1415
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 3: build on it all right.

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Speaker 1: The number three team in the country for college football,

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: the Indiana Fighting Hoosiers. I'm big on fighting. This morning,

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01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: I guess they will be hosting Michigan State three point

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01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: thirty pm on Saturday afternoon. Northwestern will be the site

1420
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: for Purdue's next football game. That one kicks off at three.

1421
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: Kevin is already nervous and pacing number twenty, USC number

1422
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: thirteen Notre Dame under the lights, just inside the dome,

1423
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: seven thirty pm.

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: Number one offense in all of college football, the USC

1425
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: Trojans this year. They dominated Michigan. Last week Notre Dame

1426
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 3: lost their center, Ashton Craig Lawrence Berg product here from

1427
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: down by the River, so Mark Chris Farley reference in there.

1428
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 3: So yes, I think the winner slots himself into a

1429
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 3: playoff position as long as they take care business. The

1430
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 3: loser probably done. Notre Dame definitely done. USC can maybe

1431
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 3: wiggle their way into the big ten mix, but yeah,

1432
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: ton at stake in what could be the final game

1433
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 3: in this rivalry for several years. It sounds like all right.

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01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 1: One other final note for me. US men's national team

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: manager Mauricio Pocketino said that ac Milan attacker Christian Polisic

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: sustained a hamstring injury that forced the player to be

1437
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 1: substituted in the twenty eighth minute of last night's two

1438
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: to one US men's national team win over Australia's arguably

1439
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: the best player for Team USA, and that could be

1440
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: problematic for that moving forward. So I don't know what

1441
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 1: that means for them, but at least they got a

1442
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: win last night in Commerce City, Colorado, which is really

1443
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: just a suburb of Denver. Last night, anything else you

1444
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: guys are going to throw in?

1445
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 4: We mentioned David Bell and his retirement. That is the

1446
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 4: former Warren Central star I believe won to state championship.

1447
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 4: I want to say football and basketball, right, and so

1448
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 4: he went on to start at Purdue. But he's done

1449
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 4: playing football at just the age of twenty four, and

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01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 4: it sounds like there is going to be more that

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 4: comes out of this. He had or spoke to Mary

1452
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 4: Kay Cabot, his lawyer spoke to Mary Kay cabot Or

1453
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 4: they were able to corroborate some things, and it sounds

1454
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 4: like he had complications due to an independent surgery that

1455
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 4: he underwent last year and not related to his dislocated

1456
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: hip that he had surgery on. So unfortunately, I think

1457
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 4: the phrase he used was like if he played football again,

1458
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 4: into a risk life and limb. So unfortunately he is

1459
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 4: done playing football. But hopefully we'll get some more information

1460
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: there as to why this happened so suddenly and so

1461
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 4: soon for a guy who obviously was very, very talented, all.

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: Right, coming up in a moment. He's been the talk

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01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: of college football all season long. Kurt Signetti getting it

1464
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: done with the Indiana Hoosiers. They'll play Michigan State this Saturday.

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01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about you know, Indiana's

1466
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to start doing what all teams seem to

1467
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: do at some point in time, Gardner successful head coach

1468
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: against other teams trying to poach him. Talk about it

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: next to ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 1: The Fan.

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Speaker 7: As you were listening to a fan morning show on

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Speaker 7: sports Radio, ninety three to five and one oh seven

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01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 7: five The Fan and we've got.

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Speaker 1: You covered as always. James Boyd from The Athletic Kevin

1475
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: Boham from One of seven five tofan dot Com. Both

1476
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: of them do an excellent job covering the Colts and

1477
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: go to all the Pacers games and do all the

1478
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: all the things. And we love sports here in Indianapolis

1479
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: and love talking about all of it. And what has

1480
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: been the talk of college football so far this year

1481
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: is Indiana football and Kurt Signetti. Yeah, Ohio State's the

1482
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: number one team in the country again, and that just

1483
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: seems to kind of go with the course of events.

1484
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: You're in, you're out. But everybody, Kevin is talking about

1485
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Indiana football. You turn on College Game Day, turn on

1486
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,839
Speaker 1: Big noon Kickoff, everybody wants to talk about Kurt Signetti.

1487
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: And now with the firing this past week of James

1488
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: Franklin at Penn State, everybody like, oh a blue ballood

1489
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: program in Penn State. Would the hot guy Kurt Signetti

1490
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: who's from Pennsylvania. Is there a chance he would go back?

1491
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 1: And we're getting a lot of different opinions from a

1492
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,839
Speaker 1: lot of different places right now, but I just can't,

1493
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: for me personally, I can't imagine that he wouldn't want

1494
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: to stay and continue building what he's building in the

1495
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: Big Ten where he's getting paid pretty well after an

1496
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: extension last year, and it could be his thing as

1497
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: opposed to just being another coach in the line of coaches.

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01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: I know it's really Joe Paterno, but I don't know. Man,

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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts now that you've had a couple

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Speaker 1: of days to think about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll keep on saying what I've said all week long.

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01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 3: I think that last part being the one to turn

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 3: IU football into something I think means a ton to

1504
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti and frankly, his ego I think has a

1505
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: lot to do with it, which I don't want to

1506
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 3: sound as negative as maybe it does, Like that's how

1507
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 3: he's wired. And you know, right now, you know there's

1508
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 3: somebody at Indiana University that is in the same sense

1509
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: with Bob Knight, which is just wild to even think about.

1510
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 3: But I think that's how IU fans of view what

1511
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti has done. And yes, you are at the

1512
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: Big ten level. Of course, in today's landscape, Big ten

1513
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 3: and SEC are above the rest. I think that matters.

1514
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 3: You know, Maybe whatever he increases his pay even more

1515
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 3: while his agent does a little flirt and dance with it.

1516
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: But you know, it seems like the support is there.

1517
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 3: I know, Scott Nelson said Ittor earlier this week. You

1518
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 3: know they've even met this week about you know, making

1519
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 3: sure that complacency is not something that creeps into where

1520
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 3: they're at from a football program standpoint, particularly for their

1521
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: head coach. So I get there are pros still there

1522
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: for Penn State, but I think the Indiana job and

1523
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 3: this era of college football is a lot more attractive

1524
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,879
Speaker 3: than it would have been ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, certainly,

1525
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: So I would be surprised if Kurtz Scnetti left.

1526
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: James, I know you've been covering college football for a

1527
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: while and you've watched it and observed it, and you've

1528
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: seen what's going on with Indiana here. What are your

1529
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: thoughts on Kurtz signetty what not only was doing here,

1530
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: but why would he want to leave here?

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01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 6: Money?

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 4: Money always changes things for a lot of people. I

1533
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 4: know people always say, oh, they're so loyal, they would

1534
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 4: never leave, And I don't think Kurtzingnetti would leave. That's

1535
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 4: because every time someone brings this topic up, he could

1536
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 4: just go to the ad and say, hey, you know what,

1537
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 4: give me a raise and I will stay here and

1538
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 4: do all you want me to do to build this

1539
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: program and continue to do what I'm doing. So it's

1540
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 4: always funy peoples bring up loyalty or you know why

1541
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 4: they would stay somewhere or leave. Money determines a lot

1542
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 4: of it. But I will say I think that the

1543
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 4: landscape when we're talking about who's the blue blood who

1544
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 4: isn't has shifted at least a bit with the introduction

1545
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 4: of NIL because we know that I use fan base

1546
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 4: will support you, They will invest in you, especially when

1547
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 4: you're winning at this rate. I mean, why wouldn't you

1548
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 4: want to support coach Signetti's So I don't envision him

1549
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 4: going anywhere.

1550
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 6: He's also an older coach, so.

1551
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, you know, one, how long do you

1552
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 4: plan on coaching? And do you want to uproot your

1553
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 4: life and move again and start over somewhere else. I'll

1554
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 4: be at Penn State is a great program if you're

1555
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 4: looking at you know where to I guess start somewhere

1556
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 4: or where to continue your career.

1557
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 6: But no, I don't envision him leaving it at all.

1558
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 4: I think that he takes a lot of pride in

1559
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 4: what he's built here, kind of being the underdog story.

1560
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 4: And like I said, this is not you know, Indiana States,

1561
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 4: this is IU. They got money to you know, pay

1562
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 4: you and keep you here, keep you happy and you

1563
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 4: keep winning.

1564
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they just signed him to an extension last

1565
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: year with the Big Rays and who says they wouldn't

1566
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: do it again. But that's how things work.

1567
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 6: Let's circle back, double dip.

1568
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: But the quote back then, and we all know how

1569
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: quotes work sometime with college football coaches here until they're

1570
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: not all the time, right. But the co the quote

1571
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: a year ago was well, you know, honestly, they came

1572
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: to me Indiana. They were very proactive. And you know

1573
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: some people say, well, why would you do that when

1574
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: this one may open, that one may open. You're gonna

1575
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: be a hot commodity, blah blah blah. And the fact

1576
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 1: of the matter is we're the emerging superpower in college football?

1577
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: Why would I leave? And to Kevin's point, I think

1578
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that is building something.

1579
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 3: It's his.

1580
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: He could do something nobody's ever done it Indiana. He

1581
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: can make this thing go. He's still got even though

1582
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: he's a little bit older, He's still got a lot

1583
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: of years left to be a head football coach. This

1584
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: could be his thing and a legacy that belongs to

1585
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti.

1586
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see it at all. I mean, I again,

1587
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: I get the Penn State fills up that stadium for

1588
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 3: games at Memorial Stadium, A probably would not if it

1589
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 3: was that sort of capacity. I mean, that to me

1590
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: is like the only real advantage. I guess Pennsylvania probably

1591
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 3: produces a little bit more from a recruiting standpoint than

1592
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 3: India does, But still, I think that's not as big

1593
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 3: of a deal as maybe it once was in this

1594
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 3: era of college football. So and maybe we're grass sping

1595
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 3: at Straws a little bit too on the ties to

1596
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: Penn State. I mean, it's not like Pittsburgh's Happy Valley

1597
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 3: And where did Kurtzignetti play West Virginia. That's not Penn State.

1598
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: So you know, Matt Ruhle, there's plenty more connections if

1599
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: you want to play that card, especially with their ad

1600
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 3: pat Craft he played there. Uh pack Craft played it,

1601
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 3: I you no.

1602
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about Matt Ruhle played at Penny right Yea.

1603
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, if you want to go down

1604
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 3: that path. So, yeah, I don't I get that this

1605
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: is a conversation that you inevitably have and Penn State

1606
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 3: will probably dangle it out there if we've contacted Kurtzignette,

1607
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 3: we've contacted Marcus for you know, they're going to do

1608
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 3: the whole song and dance to try to appease their

1609
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 3: fan base and appease their you know, boosters and all

1610
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 3: of that. But I don't know. I just don't look

1611
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 3: at the Penn State job and maybe the same light

1612
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: that others do. And maybe I'm wrong on that, but

1613
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: that's how I would look at them.

1614
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of feels to me like Penn State

1615
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: values their program a lot more than the rest of

1616
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: the country does. At this point. I'm not that it's

1617
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: a again, it's still a blue blood program, but the

1618
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 1: luster seems to have lost some of its shine over

1619
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: the last job.

1620
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:20,480
Speaker 3: But there are others that I think now are closer

1621
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: to being in that conversation than they once were. Like,

1622
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,919
Speaker 3: as crazy as it sounds, but like look at Texas

1623
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 3: Tech with how much money they're getting. From an nil standpoint,

1624
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 3: you know, you want to talk about being in the

1625
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: state of Texas. You want to talk about easily winning

1626
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: the Big twelve. You want to talk about incredible funds

1627
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 3: for their nil? Texas Tech is that right now? And

1628
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 3: you would have probably laughed at that, you know, years ago,

1629
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 3: thinking what do you mean? Texas Tech plays whatever third

1630
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 3: or fourth fiddle in their own state, and now with

1631
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: you know how much their NIL budget looks like it's

1632
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 3: a different story for them.

1633
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1634
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I can tell you the path to curtzin

1635
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 4: Netty leaving. It's Penn State is saying we'll give you

1636
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million dollars and he's like, oh,

1637
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 4: you know what, dang, all that loyalty I build, all

1638
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 4: that equity I build without you, I gotta leave so

1639
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 4: anybody can be had for any price. But I just

1640
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 4: think that again, you're already paying a guy fifty million

1641
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 4: dollars to leave, and then you got to pay another,

1642
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 4: you know, big salary to the next guy. And I

1643
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,440
Speaker 4: think whatever you threw out there, there's certainly gonna be conversations.

1644
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: If you, like Kevin said in Every bring Up, inevitably

1645
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 4: bring up Kurt Signetti. Then all you have to do

1646
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 4: if you're a Kursing Nettie's agent and say, hey, I you,

1647
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 4: we got some team sniffing around how much do.

1648
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 6: You like us? That's just business, and so I do

1649
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 6: think that he'll stay.

1650
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 4: And I don't envisioned any of that really being like

1651
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 4: a big, big talking point outside of what we're doing now,

1652
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,799
Speaker 4: which is kind of just spitballing about.

1653
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 6: The idea, but actual real traction. I just don't see that.

1654
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 3: How patient Penn State want to be?

1655
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, almost like you can't be all that patient with

1656
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 6: a job that big, that open.

1657
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, because when when is Indiana season gonna end?

1658
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: Not any time soon where they're playing maybe second third

1659
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: week of the.

1660
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 3: Playoffs, So you're gonna wait till January, That's what I'm saying, right,

1661
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 3: don't like I mean, some of these coaches that get

1662
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: into the playoff with their teams, assuming they're not leaving

1663
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 3: their playoff teams. That takes a whole different level of

1664
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 3: patients for you. And I get, you know, the portal

1665
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: window might change and all of that, but still assembly

1666
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 3: a staff, Yeah, I don't patients and hires and college athletics,

1667
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 3: particularly at the top of the food change. Yeah, those

1668
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 3: are not words that go together. I did want to

1669
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: make sure I just to put a bow tie on

1670
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: this because several people have asked they were hoping that

1671
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 3: we could get just a further update on the eighty

1672
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 3: Mitchell catch counter. Oh, thank you, just to make sure we,

1673
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 3: you know, hold everyone accountable like change Steichen is doing

1674
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 3: with Ady Mitchell Calener Mark did not leave that audio

1675
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: for you. Is that correct?

1676
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 2: That's correct? So I apologize. Saw the fans out there,

1677
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: do your bestive shoulder here?

1678
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: Can we all is it seven? Is that the numbers

1679
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 3: so far? Should we count the three here? And we

1680
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 3: all say seven in the most robotic voice, we can one, two, three, seven.

1681
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: Hey, seventy three in counting, Here we go. He's gonna

1682
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: take off in the second half of the season, right,

1683
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: seventy three to go as they continue to work out

1684
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: wide receivers on off days.

1685
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 3: Correct, I'm guessing that yes, McCole Hardman Junior definitely has

1686
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: a resume of note. He was one of the white

1687
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: outs they worked out yesterday. Obviously is important catching the

1688
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I assume those white outs were mostly to

1689
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 3: help out with the quarterback try. We can get in

1690
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 3: those quarterback names on the other side. By the way,

1691
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: if you missed that yesterday, the quarterback list that did

1692
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: not come to fruition for the Colts.

1693
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do that, but in an effort to distract,

1694
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to give stuff away. Kevin, how about that.

1695
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: I always love that.

1696
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. I've got two four packs right

1697
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: now to go see Butler basketball playing against Notre Dame

1698
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 1: Friday night at Hankel. We're gonna do it on the

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: text line textas Bulldog basketball at two three nine ten

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Speaker 1: seventy two three nine ten seventy Bulldog Basketball, and before

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01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: the end of the show will randomly pick from everybody

1702
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: who's in entered two four packs to go see Butler

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01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame Friday night at Hinkle Fieldhouse. Tell you

1704
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: more about that as we move along as well. It's

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: all coming up next. Ninety three five and one of

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Speaker 1: seven to five The Fan.

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Speaker 7: You were listening to The Fan Morning Show on Sports

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Speaker 7: Radio ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome into the Fan Morning Show. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of back, Calob's back again for the third day in

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01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: a row. We appreciate that Mark dychd and sunning himself

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01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 1: somewhere and probably being leaped upon from the third rope

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01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 1: by one of his kids as they like to do.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard from from market All on his vacation

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01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 1: or as he'd been silent and out.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to not bother him too much, you know.

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01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 2: I know he works hard, and I'm trying to give

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Speaker 2: him a break.

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01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 6: So Mark works hard. He barely works, he barely works.

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01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 4: But no, he honestly got the Wall Deserve vacation down

1721
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 4: there in Florida. I have you all ever driven as

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 4: far as he has?

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Speaker 6: I would? I feel like I would at that drive.

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01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 4: But he does it quite often to go see the

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Speaker 4: family and hang out with the kids.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: No, When I was a kid, we had we did

1728
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,839
Speaker 1: the old vacation thing, had the station wagon, the panel

1729
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: on the side and everything. We went to Disneyland one

1730
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 1: year when I was a teenager.

1731
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 4: Ooh, humbougie. Now I tell my family anything over five hours,

1732
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 4: I'm not riding with you. I'll catch you on a plane.

1733
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 3: James. The four quarterbacks that the Colts worked out yesterday,

1734
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 3: Jeff Driscoll, Jaren Hall Tanner, Mordecai Trass. Any of those

1735
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 3: four stand out to you?

1736
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 5: No?

1737
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 6: And apparently none of them stood out to the Colts either.

1738
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 4: Like I said, I think the one in all seriousness

1739
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 4: is probably College Trask because he's a second round pick,

1740
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: and I'm like, all right, well, is there some talent

1741
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 4: there that we just haven't seen it? But he's I

1742
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,919
Speaker 4: believe he's only thrown like eleven passes in the NFL,

1743
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 4: So I get that he was behind Tom Brady and

1744
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield for some time there, but to just cut

1745
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 4: ties with him already be a kind of a journeyman

1746
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 4: is a little bit surprising to me. But as far

1747
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 4: as the other guys, yeah, none of the other ones

1748
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 4: really stood out to me. I thought, you know, Tanner

1749
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 4: Mordecai was a bit of a surprise sort of participant

1750
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 4: to me because he's still on the young side. So

1751
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 4: I'm like, if you're leaning more towards experience, he doesn't

1752
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 4: have much of it at all, being undrafted just last year.

1753
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 4: So other than that, I mean, it's always interesting to

1754
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 4: see like who is available and who do they bring in,

1755
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 4: And so when I was going through my own list,

1756
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 4: I was trying to cross reference, like how many did

1757
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 4: I get right? And I think I only got Jeff

1758
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 4: drescoll On there myself.

1759
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, when you look at Jared Hall mentioned

1760
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 3: him the Colts did work him out in the twenty

1761
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 3: two the same year. Yes, Anthy Richardson Hall put up

1762
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 3: some big numbers of BYU was with Minnesota out of

1763
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: the draft, ended up being a fifth round pick in

1764
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: that draft. Class did start a couple of games for

1765
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 3: the Vikings, So there is a little bit of connection there,

1766
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,839
Speaker 3: and that Shane Steichen actually worked him out during the draft.

1767
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 3: But that list, you know, I did have this thought

1768
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 3: as the day played out yesterday of like, you know,

1769
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 3: the Taylor Heinekes of the world, or some of these

1770
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 3: guys that are on the list and have a little

1771
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 3: bit more of a resume off shocked that he wasn't

1772
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 3: brought in. Well, if you're him, don't you hold out

1773
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 3: for other better opportunities. The opportunity here is to be

1774
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 3: a backup. What happens when a quarterback gets hurt? Right,

1775
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: what happens when Joe Burrow happens again? Like if Daniel

1776
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 3: Jones is out for a month. Now is Taylor Heineke's

1777
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: agent saying hello, we want to listen now. You know

1778
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 3: right here you're just a backup. And Daniel Jones, Yeah,

1779
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 3: albeit he has some injury history, but you know he

1780
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: hasn't missed a meaningful snap this season. So I do

1781
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 3: think some of those sorts of guys. Again, Heinike is

1782
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 3: probably the most attractive of a lot of these names.

1783
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 3: Are they saying, Hey, it's October fifteenth, I don't need

1784
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 3: to jump at something. Let's wait a month, Let's see

1785
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 3: how the next month plays out, and maybe whatever Jalen

1786
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 3: Hurts gets hurt in Philly or Baker Mayfield in Tampa

1787
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 3: or Josh Allen in Buffalo, you know somebody else if

1788
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 3: they are to get hurt like Burrow did earlier in

1789
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 3: the year, then boom. Now I have an opportunity to

1790
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 3: start and not just be here, yeah and hold the

1791
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: Microsoft surface.

1792
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1793
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 1: And also probably you bring in a guy like Heinke

1794
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: probably makes the future of AR even murkier because he's

1795
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: been around the league for a while and he's done

1796
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: a few things, and he is at best, I mean,

1797
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 1: at worst, a legitimate backup, and he's made some starts

1798
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: in his career that might just muddy the waters even further.

1799
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: If you're the idn't care about that? Maybe not Anthony

1800
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 3: Richardson hasn't earned the right for you all of a

1801
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 3: sudden be like ah, I'm nervous how he's going to

1802
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 3: react to this.

1803
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 4: But at Jeff's point, I mean, everything we've heard from

1804
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 4: the Colts is that we're not giving up on him.

1805
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, we still believe in his future.

1806
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 3: Is still but he's out a month plus. I mean

1807
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 3: you can't. You can't sit here and coddle Anthony Richardson

1808
01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: at this point.

1809
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: You know, I think that that Jeff is making it,

1810
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 4: and it's correct me if I'm wrong. If I think

1811
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 4: the point he's making is, assuming Anthony Richardson comes back,

1812
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 4: you've had Taylor Heineke here, what decision do you make

1813
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 4: then it's not necessarily that he's out running. Yeah, when

1814
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 4: he's out, you do whatever you gotta do to get better.

1815
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 4: But when he comes back, if Taylor Heineke's shown he's

1816
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 4: a good backup, do you say, okay, is he's the

1817
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 4: our backup guy?

1818
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you cross that bridge when it comes.

1819
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 3: I just don't think we're in a camp with Richardson

1820
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 3: right now to where even he's locked in as being

1821
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: the backup. We'll see where he's at healthwise, and then

1822
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 3: from a backup quarterback standpoint, you know, whenever that comes,

1823
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 3: whether it's Thanksgiving. Whether it's longer than that, then you

1824
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 3: cross that bridge. So I will be interested to see

1825
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 3: how they handle Brett Ripping in terms of the practice squad. Again,

1826
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 3: you can be elevated three times during a season. Well,

1827
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,600
Speaker 3: Richardson has to miss four games. So at some point,

1828
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: assuming they bring Ripping to the practice squad, they're going

1829
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 3: to have to bring him to the fifty three man

1830
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 3: roster if they want to continue to dress three quarterbacks

1831
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 3: on game day. Again, it's a little roster gymnastics. Yeah,

1832
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 3: but that's how this roll is here. So we'll see

1833
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 3: how Riley Leonard and this plays out throughout this week.

1834
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you're going to have to have

1835
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: somebody on that practice squad anyway. So to your point,

1836
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: I'm really sure to see after this week if they

1837
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: don't feel like like Ripping is ready to go right now,

1838
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 1: what do they do the second week between those.

1839
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 10: Two quarterbacks, who gets elevated to the backup. I think

1840
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 10: that's gonna be really once Ripped and whatever learns to

1841
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,879
Speaker 10: playbook more. Again, they don't have to have any quarterback

1842
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 10: on the practice squad. Riley Leonard is not on the

1843
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 10: practice squad. Rile Leonard's on the fifty three man roster,

1844
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 10: so they could, but they don't have to. A lot

1845
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 10: of teams I think now have rolled with three quarterbacks

1846
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 10: on their fifty three man roster just to protect all

1847
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 10: three of those guys. So Colts get back to practice

1848
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 10: later today again on that Wednesday, Thursday, Friday cadence before

1849
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 10: they head out to LA this weekend.

1850
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: All right, still I ahead another look into this week's

1851
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: game for the Indiana Hoosiers that they take on Michigan State.

1852
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: A little bit more on the Colts, some thoughts A

1853
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 1: couple of days on from three preseason games. Now for

1854
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers, it's all straight ahead. At ninety three

1855
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: five and one of seven five the Fans. You are

1856
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: listening to the.

1857
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 7: Fan Morning Show on Sports Radio ninety three to five

1858
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 7: and one oh seven five.

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Speaker 1: The Fan, Good morning, and welcome into the Fan Morning Show.

1860
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, kayleb Vzoover. You and your dad's

1861
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: still fighting on the text line. What's going on over there?

1862
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: Not quite We're done with that. We've moved past that.

1863
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 2: But he did text me personally.

1864
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 1: All right, that's good. We like Momo's Welcome to the show. Anytime.

1865
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 4: Is Mo still paying the phone? But he says, son,

1866
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,799
Speaker 4: I own his phone, I own your text line?

1867
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:48,639
Speaker 6: How about that?

1868
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: He's not answering, he's just laughing at I'm.

1869
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 6: Just saying no. I must say my parents kick me

1870
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 6: off quick.

1871
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 4: Soon as I graduated college, it was like, yeah, You're

1872
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 4: gonna have to start paying his phone bill.

1873
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta be nice. You're right, Jane.

1874
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Speaker 1: We have a couple the winners though. I'm jeff Rickord.

1875
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Speaker 1: By the way, we have a couple of winners for

1876
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: Butler Bulldog basketball against Notre Dame on Friday night. We

1877
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,839
Speaker 1: asked you to Texas at two three, nine, ten seventy

1878
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: and just use the two words Butler Bulldog to be

1879
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 1: entered in dozens and dozens and dozens of entrants, and

1880
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: we have two winners. Caleb who who gets the tickets

1881
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: this morning?

1882
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 2: Joe from Mooresville, congratulations And Tug Townsend.

1883
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: That's a great name, Tug Townsend. I like that.

1884
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 3: I love that. Should be rocketing there. I will be

1885
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 3: in the building coming up Friday night. Ryan Bowen and

1886
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: I in the building.

1887
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 1: I like it. What's that our name out for basketball

1888
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: this year?

1889
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 3: Can we talk no name basketball?

1890
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: Oh?

1891
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 4: No, please, I'm just just give meinty seconds, just thirty seconds.

1892
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: What do you mean why do you say quickly?

1893
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 6: So quickly?

1894
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 3: Why can't we talk?

1895
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 1: Because we're gonna talk Pacers basketball, Burton first team all acc.

1896
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 3: I do love to be some Marcus Braydon Shrewsbury, one

1897
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 3: of the best shooters in college basketball. Jalen Harrelson offering

1898
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 3: another ball handlerre off the wing. The heralded recruit car

1899
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 3: Tout from Northern Arizona led college basketball and rebounding last year.

1900
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 3: Just a Greek god of a of a big dude. Honestly,

1901
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 3: cannot wait for that. Cole serta great shooter, Brady Kaylor

1902
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 3: from Cathedral High School right here right or Frost another

1903
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 3: shooter off sicko. I cannot wait for Notre Dame basketball.

1904
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 3: You've see Notre Dame basketball want at all than Notre Dame football.

1905
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 1: What's better than exact?

1906
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 3: That is an honest statement. Yeah, I'd rather see Notre

1907
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 3: Dame basketball want at all than the note in football.

1908
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 6: Honestly, there's nothing better in going to Why I mentioned

1909
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 6: very curious about this.

1910
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: I'm not getting in here, Caleb.

1911
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 3: I think there is a little part of me that

1912
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 3: grew up in still the basketball state of Indiana. Respect Okay,

1913
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 3: like the forty nine States is just basketball, but this

1914
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 3: is Indiana is still kind of alive in me. And

1915
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm thirty six, so maybe like twenty six,

1916
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 3: maybe sixteenth, maybe, like it's common transition football wise. Granted,

1917
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 3: Pacers and Fever obviously are certainly back in a very

1918
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 3: prominent view, but that is still.

1919
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 9: I did.

1920
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 3: There's something about it. I just love Notaraday basketball. I

1921
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 3: love it more than Notding football. I mean, I have

1922
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 3: an unhealthy obsession for both. Let me be very clear,

1923
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 3: but if I had to pick one or the other,

1924
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: it'd be there. Dame Basketball, you did.

1925
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 1: Go old school and start doing your shows with a

1926
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: like a highlight or a green or yellow pink highlighter

1927
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: like Phelps.

1928
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of emotional basketball, I I got a litleteria yesterday.

1929
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: Uh oh, what happened?

1930
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 3: So I believe it debuts. I want to say it

1931
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: might be tomorrow debuts here pretty soon. We know Tyre's

1932
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 3: Halliburton is going to be on the Starting five documentary

1933
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 3: on Netflix, and we saw a snippet of it a

1934
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 3: few weeks back where they showed some behind the scenes footage.

1935
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 3: And I shouldn't say behind the scenes footage. They just

1936
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: showed footage that we will see coming up in the

1937
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 3: documentary debuts about Game seven in Oklahoma City. And I

1938
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: mean he's literally the cameras are in the locker room

1939
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: with him and his family after the torn Achilles takes place.

1940
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 3: I mean it was incredible footage. Jarring, certainly, but incredible footage.

1941
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 3: And Netflix and Halliburton released a video yesterday that had

1942
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: Reggie Miller commenting on what Tyrese Halliburton did in terms

1943
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 3: of electing to play in the NBA Finals. And they did,

1944
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 3: like picture the little Michael Jordan last dance scene where

1945
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 3: you hand the iPad so the guy and you have

1946
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 3: him watch the clips. So Caleb go ahead and cue

1947
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 3: this up. It's about it's about a minute or two.

1948
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 3: You'll hear Reggie Miller's voice first, correct Caleb, and then

1949
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 3: they'll transition to Halliburton. But basically it's Tyrese watching Reggie

1950
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: Miller talk about him and what he did. And uh,

1951
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 3: it's it's quite the clip.

1952
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 11: No one will ever second guess any decision that he

1953
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 11: ever makes. Again. He risked it all.

1954
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: He risked it all.

1955
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 11: For a franchise, for a state, for an organization, how

1956
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 11: many how many guys in life? How many women in

1957
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 11: life are willing to risk it all?

1958
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Risk it all?

1959
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 11: But this comes back full circle moment to what's it

1960
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 11: like to be a Hoosier and to play in Indiana.

1961
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 11: I'm not playing for myself. I'm playing for that dude,

1962
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:31,759
Speaker 11: playing for that dude, I'm playing for these people. That's

1963
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 11: what it's like to be an Indiana Pacers.

1964
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 6: So thank you, Tyrese.

1965
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's just like like I don't like, like, you know,

1966
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 12: you gotta you gotta like move on forward, but like, yeah,

1967
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 12: I don't know, it's just like it's tough, but you

1968
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 12: know we're gonna I'm gonna work my ass off to

1969
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 12: uh you know, to get back there, and uh you

1970
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 12: know I'm gonna do it in a Pacer uniforms. Oh

1971
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 12: you know this place is uh it's very special for me.

1972
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 12: And you know, like I said, when wouldn't change my

1973
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 12: my decision for a second, and uh you know, I'll

1974
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 12: work my ass off every day to get back there.

1975
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 12: But you know it's not it's not guaranteed, but we're

1976
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 12: gonna fight, like I held him to, you know, trying

1977
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 12: to make it happen. So uh, yeah, that that means

1978
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 12: a lot from from him, and uh, there's not many

1979
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 12: people that uh, you know, can say say things to uh,

1980
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 12: you know, make me feel you know, this way. So

1981
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 12: you know that's just uh you know, shows uh you

1982
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 12: know what he means to me and and uh what

1983
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 12: this place means to me.

1984
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:44,720
Speaker 6: So it's pretty cool.

1985
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get you going right there. And what was

1986
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: fun too during that whole playoff run, especially towards the

1987
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: end that Reggie was right there courtside watching all of

1988
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: it all the time. That was fun to watch too.

1989
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 3: James, would you make of that?

1990
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 4: I think it's everything that we love about basketball in

1991
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 4: this state, right And I got chills just watching it.

1992
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,480
Speaker 6: I didn't really get like emotional.

1993
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 4: I just felt extremely proud that we call this guy

1994
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 4: our own. And I think I've said this publicly, but

1995
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 4: Tyre's Halliburton is probably my favorite athlete that I've covered

1996
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:26,640
Speaker 4: because of moments like that where he's you know, happy, vulnerable,

1997
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 4: real and it just feels like the dude understands everything

1998
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 4: that we're about. And I keep saying this and I've

1999
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 4: said this for months now, and really for a couple

2000
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 4: of years when we tell the Tyre's Halliburton story and

2001
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 4: we remind people that he wasn't drafted here, it's gonna

2002
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 4: sound like a question you get on Jeopardy, like, wait,

2003
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 4: what he wasn't drafted here, They didn't pick him up,

2004
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 4: Like he feels like a lifetime pacer, lifetime Hoosier. And yeah,

2005
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 4: I feel for him because you see all the emotions

2006
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 4: there and I think that there is and this is

2007
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 4: why I will always push back against the whole, like, well,

2008
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 4: if you don't win it all, it's for nothing.

2009
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 6: Now it meant something like that run is everything.

2010
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 4: It's for fro folks around here, And it fits the

2011
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 4: narrative of all man like you know you're the underdog.

2012
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 6: Stay underdog team.

2013
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 4: He didn't get over the hump, but just to chase

2014
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 4: the grind and the willingness to put it all out there.

2015
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 4: So much respect to him, And yeah, I actually just

2016
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 4: bought his sneakers the other day because I was thinking

2017
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 4: of how cool he is and I don't need any

2018
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 4: more basketball shootes at all, honestly. But this was maybe

2019
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: over the weekend. Yeah, I went in last minute. I

2020
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 4: was just driving by the mall and I was like,

2021
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 4: you know what, I want to see. These hal burdens

2022
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 4: are there, let me just go get these cause he's

2023
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 4: a guy that I feel like we should just support

2024
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 4: to that in that effect. Now excited for him to

2025
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 4: get healthy get back out there next season. But yeah,

2026
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 4: I felt all the fields watching that, and I'm sure

2027
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 4: all the emotions will come back when we sit down

2028
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 4: and watch the entire thing. I know some people were like, oh,

2029
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 4: I can't watch that at all.

2030
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 6: I can.

2031
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it was great theater all the way up

2032
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 4: until the end. But the great part is, at least

2033
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 4: in my opinion, is that this isn't a career ending injury.

2034
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 4: It's just hopefully a hurdle that makes a story greater later.

2035
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 3: I think in a load management era, to know what

2036
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 3: Tyres Haliburton did this is probably another thing that just

2037
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: echoes everything that you just said. I thought you laid

2038
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 3: that out really well, James, and like, yeah, you do

2039
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,560
Speaker 3: forget at times he wasn't. He was like he was

2040
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 3: a king initially. What was the thing that is before

2041
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 3: he became a pacer, Because he does feel so, I mean,

2042
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 3: he has embraced us just as much as we have

2043
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 3: embraced it, and to say we when I use that pronoun,

2044
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 3: you know, credit the Pacers because Rick Carlisle know shared

2045
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 3: the story with us, and I believe, by the way,

2046
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 3: Tuesday will be our restart with Rick Carlisle coming up

2047
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 3: here as we get into those eight o'clock combos with him,

2048
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 3: so fingers crossed on that they'll open up their season

2049
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 3: coming up a week from Thursday. But you know, Rick

2050
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: mentioned that, you know when he went to dinner with

2051
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 3: those guys and guys plural, you know, Buddy Healed and

2052
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 3: I think Tristan Thompson, you know, when when they would

2053
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 3: dinner together after the trade, Rick said to Tyresse directly like,

2054
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 3: here's the ball. You know you are our quarterback. You

2055
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 3: know you are our mahomes and we need you to

2056
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 3: be the conductor and orchestrate it all. And to have

2057
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 3: that belief in him before even really playing a game

2058
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 3: with you, I think it is also something that Rick

2059
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 3: deserves a lot of credit for and again organizationally, for

2060
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 3: them to view it in that like, because yeah, I mean,

2061
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 3: Tyresee was an attractive trade piece, but to act like

2062
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 3: teams were just beating down Sacramento's door to say, hey,

2063
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 3: we want him to be our franchise point guard. Like

2064
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 3: not everybody was doing it.

2065
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 4: No, I mean, in hindsight, they probably should have been

2066
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 4: doing that correct before he played his first game.

2067
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 6: I remember being in the Pacers media room before ty

2068
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 6: Reese made his home debut and Kevin Pritcher compared him

2069
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 6: to Peyton Manny and Andrew Luck. I know, and I remember.

2070
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 4: Thinking in the moment, you are insane, like what are

2071
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 4: you doing. You're sending this kid up for failure. Those

2072
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 4: guys are legends here, especially eighteen. I mean, he's the

2073
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 4: only one in the city, only athlete in the city

2074
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 4: who has a statue outside of his old office. So

2075
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: to look at that moment a few years ago to

2076
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 4: where they are now and say that they were right

2077
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 4: on the money about this guy, hats off to that

2078
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 4: front office And like you said to Rick Carlo for

2079
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: seeing it before the rest of the world did. And

2080
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna miss the joy he plays with and like

2081
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 4: I said, even the lows.

2082
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 6: I mean, the only time I ever.

2083
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 4: Really criticized Tyrese as like character wise is when he

2084
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 4: skipped out and talking to the media after that stinker

2085
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 4: against the Cavs and the playoffs. But even then, the

2086
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 4: next day he comes out and says, you know what,

2087
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 4: or next game, I should have spoke.

2088
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 6: I messed up. And then he gave us a real

2089
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 6: answer and said, you know what, A had.

2090
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 4: A bad game. I didn't want to talk to you guys.

2091
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 4: And you don't get that type of, you know, just

2092
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 4: candidness from athletes ever, especially American athletes. I' must say, like,

2093
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 4: I get a kick out of talking to Bernard Ryman,

2094
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 4: the Coast left tackle, because it seems like he wasn't

2095
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,680
Speaker 4: trained that way. So he gets brutally honest assessments of

2096
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 4: himself and the team. Sometimes you're like, wait, that's refreshing.

2097
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 4: But for someone who you know, kind of grew up

2098
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 4: in this has been a pretty high level player pretty

2099
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 4: much all his life to offer that sort of peak

2100
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 4: behind the curtain all the time, seemingly I can respect that.

2101
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: You can get a look at the Netflix starting five

2102
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 1: series that follows a couple of NDBA players Kevin Durant,

2103
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, Shake Giligess, Alexander James Harden, and of course

2104
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 1: Tyreez Aliburton drops tomorrow Kevin.

2105
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 3: Oh good, good, good good? What do we got tomorrow?

2106
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 11: Is it?

2107
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 3: Steelers Bengals? Yep, okay, all right, well that's not appointment. Appointment.

2108
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 3: I'll probably flip over to it at some point, but yeah,

2109
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 3: I'll definitely be checking that out. One thing to note,

2110
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 3: Pacers back to practice today again. Friday will be their

2111
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 3: preseason finale. Like I said, eight days from today, we'll

2112
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 3: take on the Thunder. I'm one thing, I'm nervous, and

2113
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 3: I still like the over to be clear on their

2114
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,720
Speaker 3: over under wins bet whatever it is, thirty eight and

2115
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 3: a half, thirty seven and a half. But and I

2116
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 3: don't want to react too much of Monday night in

2117
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 3: the preseason game. But I think one thing a reason

2118
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:04,759
Speaker 3: why been so bullish on their win total over hitting

2119
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 3: in recent years, as I think they've had such a

2120
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 3: regular season superpower that actually has played out a little

2121
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 3: bit more in the playoffs than it usually does. But

2122
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 3: one of the Pacers' great superpowers in recent years has

2123
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 3: been their depth on an eighty two night grind. The

2124
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 3: NBA season is a grind. It's eighty two games, and

2125
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 3: we see players sit quite often, and yet the Pacers.

2126
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 3: How many times have we sat here the morning after

2127
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 3: Pacer game and said, man, I feel like the bench

2128
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 3: just kind of turned the game last night. I felt

2129
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 3: like McConnell did this. I felt like Matheren did that.

2130
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Man Obi top and hitting those two or three threes

2131
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 3: was huge. Is that still going to be there? Is

2132
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 3: your depth still a superpower? Matherins Now where starting lineup,

2133
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:52,839
Speaker 3: Tija mcconnald's now out for the first ten twelve games

2134
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 3: of the season. That second unit, it's kind of a

2135
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 3: mash unit right now. You think Jarris Walker is going

2136
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 3: to ascend, we'll see you still have Obi with that

2137
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 3: second unit. You might argue Obi is best served with

2138
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Speaker 3: the starting unit right now depth at center. His question

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Speaker 3: is Johnny for a rotational role Ben Shephard right now,

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01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 3: Cameron Payne is with that second unit, So that would

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Speaker 3: be a question that I do have. Is your depth

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01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 3: still a superpower? Because I think it has been that

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01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 3: for this organization here, especially in Rick Carlisle's second iteration,

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Speaker 3: is that still there?

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Speaker 1: To your point, Kevin, there's just that just means there's

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01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: no margin for air in terms of injuries, like you're

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01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 1: already you're already there starting the season off right there.

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Speaker 3: Well, and last year, you know Nemhard and Ni Smith

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01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 3: both in his games earlier in the season and you

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01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 3: started ten to fifteen. You know, we almost forget about that.

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Speaker 3: So that would be a question that I do have.

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01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 3: As the Pacers have one more preseason game left coming

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Speaker 3: up on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Thirty six and a half is at Fandel right now,

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01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: just looking up the over under right Pacers thirty six

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Speaker 1: and a half.

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Speaker 3: So they watch the game Monday and they said, look

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Speaker 3: at these centers.

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Speaker 1: They looked at the centers and saw the early injury

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01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: to TJ McConnell, and to your point, just now they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we had them at thirty eight. Let's let's back it

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Speaker 1: off a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Thirty six that's a low number.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: I just can't imagine Rick Carlisle his group and the

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01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: way they play basketball, because I'm telling you they are

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01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 1: going to win more than their fair share of games

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Speaker 1: on the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday random nights when teams come

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Speaker 1: in here in the second game of back to back

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Speaker 1: and this team is just going to run those teams ragged.

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Speaker 3: But is that still a superpower? That's the question I

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01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 3: have is that is your depth piece still as potent.

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Speaker 6: It's a great question as it has been.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I mean, do you have a legitimate starting center.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna be. I mean you can be. I don't know.

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01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 4: Spit elbow, grease and grit doesn't always work when other

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Speaker 4: seems is just more talented.

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Speaker 6: So I'm very curious see how that works out for

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01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 6: give it to me sometimes spit elbow, grease and grit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's great, you know the old Hey,

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01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 4: if we got more moxie than the other team.

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Speaker 3: But this is the Hosier's movie, Max.

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01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 6: There's a lot of players out there.

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Speaker 1: So here's the next logical step to that line of thinking.

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01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 3: Though, sign James board right above Max's bed, right above

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Speaker 3: the head.

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01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: You have it painted on the wall. There you go.

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01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 3: I might make Max do it a lot.

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01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: So the next logical place to go with that, we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about the Colts in their quarterback situation right

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01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: now behind Daniel Jones. Is there a point where they

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Speaker 1: start looking at making a move for centers that could

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Speaker 1: come in and play legitimate minutes night in and night

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Speaker 1: out against better centers in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: They look at me, Yeah, no, I mean no, I

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01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 3: think what you've done, you've you've you've done. I don't Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't see them.

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Speaker 1: If they routinely get beat up in the post every

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Speaker 1: single night in the first third of the season. You

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01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: have to start thinking about things, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess you could. You could also start thinking

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01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 3: about if it gets ugly, do you wave the white flag?

2203
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 3: The PACER's ever done that? Well, they certainly did a

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01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 3: couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I was there. Oh you ain't gotta tell me,

2206
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 4: oh brother. They ended the year with the ten game

2207
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:12,560
Speaker 4: losing streak, and I was told repeatedly that Malcolm Brogden's

2208
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 4: was dealing with achilles tendon nightis or something, and we're like,

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01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 4: he's never playing it, and they wouldn't ruling out for

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01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 4: the rest of the season.

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Speaker 6: It was every day asking about this guy's.

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Speaker 3: Achilles, Jeff. To your point, the Pacers, I would say,

2213
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 3: normally do not do that. They definitely did it a

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01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 3: few years back, and by no means am by sitting

2215
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 3: here on October fifteenth acting like they're going to and

2216
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 3: again that's another reason why I think the over on

2217
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 3: their win total is probably the better bet, because there

2218
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 3: are a lot of teams around the league right now

2219
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,640
Speaker 3: that at the first side of adversity, they're like, you

2220
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 3: know what, let's go watch aj debantson. Let's go watch

2221
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 3: those boozer kids.

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Speaker 1: Start the process from Duke.

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01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying I.

2224
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,639
Speaker 3: Don't think the Pacers are going to be jumping on

2225
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:53,639
Speaker 3: that train as quickly as other teams are. But let's

2226
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 3: also not be naive and not sit here in reality

2227
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 3: and realize no Tyre's Hall and if all of a

2228
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 3: sudden you found a piece in the draft next year

2229
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 3: that turns into a very important player for you in

2230
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 3: the next Haliburton window, we could probably get over a

2231
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 3: thirty win season here rather quickly. Again, it's nothing you

2232
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 3: want to really, I think put a ton of eggs

2233
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 3: into that basket when you are a game away from

2234
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 3: winning the NBA Finals last year. But you also can't

2235
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 3: completely ignore it.

2236
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,839
Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk Indiana football coming up at about

2237
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: twelve minutes here, looking forward to seeing what is on

2238
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 1: the mind of James Coworker over there at the Athletic today.

2239
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to find it out what's happening with

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Speaker 1: Indiana as they get ready for Michigan State, and of

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01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: course all the talk around Kurt Signetti. But right now,

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01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: let's check things down.

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Speaker 7: The morning checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh

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01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:52,879
Speaker 7: seven five fan.

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Speaker 1: You'll go through this fairly quickly. Right now, the Colts

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01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 1: have acquired twenty nine year old Brett ripping at quarterback,

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01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: who put him on the practice out at this point

2248
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: in time, What do we know about Brett Rippon so far?

2249
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, He's.

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Speaker 3: A nephew of Mark for those out there. Last time

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01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 3: I threw a pass in the NFL, I think it

2252
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 3: was twenty three four starts in the league. Never really

2253
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 3: been a backup, backup, kind of mostly been in that

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01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 3: third quarterback role. Has gotten elevated at some points in

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Speaker 3: his career, most recently with Cincinnati. So this past year

2256
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 3: he joined the Bengals practice squad. Burrow gets hurt, boom,

2257
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 3: he becomes a backup, and then when they traded for Flacco,

2258
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,120
Speaker 3: that's when Cincinnati got rid of him. So again, there

2259
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:34,479
Speaker 3: are some backups out there, or some free agent quarterbacks

2260
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 3: out there that probably have a little bit more on

2261
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 3: the resume. It's not like he's got nothing on the resume.

2262
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 3: And now we wait and see how the week plays out.

2263
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: Will it be Riley Leonard one play away in that

2264
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 3: number two role on Sunday, or will it be Brett Rippen.

2265
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 3: I assume the other would then be the emergency third

2266
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 3: quarterback James.

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Speaker 1: We all remember that Riley Leonard looked good in that

2268
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: last preseason game against the Bengals, but it's a whole

2269
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: different animal to play in the regular season with a

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01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: team that's five and one. Correct.

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01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it is sort of what we always experience with

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01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 4: Everyone loves the backup quarterback until they get in the

2273
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 4: game for real. So and I actually don't want to

2274
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 4: put Ry Leinard in that situation, but I do find

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01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 4: interesting to really understand or go through shame Psychn's thought

2276
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 4: practice for this upcoming week. Would you rather have Ryan

2277
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,799
Speaker 4: Leonard be your QB two going into Sunday's game against

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01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 4: the Chargers because he's been here for a while, Or

2279
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 4: are you gonna hand those keys immediately to Brett Rippan, who,

2280
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 4: in theory would have only had three practices with the Colts.

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01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Of course, every Tuesday is a day that teams

2282
01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: like to bring in players that they're evaluating. Could they

2283
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: be a fit on the fifty three man roster, maybeven

2284
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 1: put them on the practice squad. Of course, they were

2285
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: looking for a kicker not too long ago. They picked

2286
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 1: up badly for that bunch of wide receivers on the

2287
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: field yesterday. What do we make of that, James Boyd.

2288
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 6: Do you need somebody to throw to? That's what I

2289
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:49,800
Speaker 6: make of it.

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01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 4: They have a lot of talent already at that position,

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01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't, you know, pay much attenest to I

2292
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 4: know McCole Harmon was out there, so that's somebody who's

2293
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 4: a name. Won a Super Bowl with the Chiefs. Might

2294
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 4: have wont a couple, but yeah, I wouldn't pay too

2295
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 4: much int into that.

2296
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Speaker 1: All right. We were talking about the Indiana Pacers just

2297
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: a few moments ago. They will finish up their preseason

2298
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 1: on Friday at San Antonio. To hear that game live

2299
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: right here on ninety three five, one oh seven five

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01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 1: the Fan getting ready for the season opener against the

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01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder. That'll be a week from Thursday at

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01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: the field House seven to thirty pm. Start again, all

2303
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 1: these games heard live right here on ninety three five

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01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: and one oh seven five the Fan and we were

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01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: just talking about it a moment ago. For those just

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Speaker 1: joining us, CALMONI you want to find out more about

2307
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,559
Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton and his season last year, starting five drops

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01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: on Netflix tomorrow. Look forward to.

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01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 3: That, definitely, definitely looking forward to that. It seems like

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01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 3: some great, great behind the scenes stuff, so yes, looking

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01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 3: forward to it.

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Speaker 1: All right. The National League Championship Series is going to

2313
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:46,720
Speaker 1: take the day off, but not before the Dodgers have

2314
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: taken it two games to none lead over the Milwaukee Brewers.

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01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: After a win last night in which Yosha no, I'm sorry,

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01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Yosha Nobu, I can't read the small print. This morning,

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01:46:56,080 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 1: Yamamoto had a complete game, one run allowed, three he hits,

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01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:04,600
Speaker 1: one walk, seven strikeouts, home runs from Taoscar Hernandez and

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01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,599
Speaker 1: Max Munsey. And just like that, the Brewers are down

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01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: to zip James Boyd and we go back to Los Angeles.

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01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Now things are not looking good for Joel Rickson. You

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01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,759
Speaker 1: got to give him the business over at Colts Camp today.

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01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 4: Oh No, I try to stay away from the baseball rivalries.

2324
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 4: I feel like if I ever make fun of Matt

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01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 4: Conti's team to his face with the Phillies or Joel

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01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,719
Speaker 4: a Ericson's team with the Brewers of their face, I'll

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01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 4: probably you know, be wearing a face mask after I.

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01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 6: Can hit in my face.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, get brutal over there at Colts Camp.

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Speaker 6: Hey, these guys love their baseball all right.

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01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: Later on tonight in the American League, the Toronto Blue

2332
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 1: Jays are down two games to none. They'll try to

2333
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:42,719
Speaker 1: scrap out a win on the road against the Mariners.

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01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:46,919
Speaker 1: That one has first pitch at eighth eight. No football

2335
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL until tomorrow night. As you mentioned a

2336
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: moment ago. Pittsburgh Steelers take on the Cincinnati Bengals in

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01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:56,799
Speaker 1: that one, and of course Saturday, Kurtz Signetti and Indiana

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01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 1: will host Michigan State. That one starts three point thirty

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01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: down in Bloomington. Purdue plays at Northwestern Ball State host

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Speaker 1: Akron and number twenty USA a USC take it on

2341
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: number thirteen Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Kevin, I hate USC.

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01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: Anything today or that you wanted to share with us.

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01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 3: The only thing I like are their cheerleaders.

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01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 1: Hey, speak of cheerleaders. You see the cheerleader that was

2346
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: proposed to on the Colts end zone this past week.

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01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 6: I did see that.

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01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: That was pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like we see one of those every

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01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 4: couple of no, say, every couple of games, maybe once

2351
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:33,480
Speaker 4: a season or something like that. So congrats to the

2352
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 4: newly engaged couple.

2353
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,799
Speaker 3: Twenty year anniversary of the Bush Push. Thank you Caleb

2354
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 3: for having that all over this morning. It's iconic.

2355
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, we need to before the end

2356
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: of the show, we need to find a replay of

2357
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 1: that play that we can play.

2358
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if we really want to torture Kevin, Yeah,

2359
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean we could do.

2360
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 3: That was so long ago. Who do you think was

2361
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 3: was it Tom Hammond on the call of that one?

2362
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 2: I think so because they were doing the NBC games

2363
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 2: back then, I believes.

2364
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 3: Trying to Mike Mayock, I don't know who would have

2365
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 3: been the color announcer Pray and I'm may I probably Hell,

2366
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 3: probably the dude that used to be the usc A

2367
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 3: d what was his name, Pat Hayden, But that was

2368
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 3: a while back.

2369
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: I bet yeah, he might have been on that one.

2370
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 3: Remember, like it was yesterday, Zibakowski punt return. Thought the

2371
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 3: stadium was gonna literally explode after that, boy, fourth and nine,

2372
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 3: Dwayne Jarrett, Ambrose Wooden had great coverage and then the

2373
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 3: rest is history. There.

2374
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 1: You want to talk about football players, I love to

2375
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: watch Zibakowski play.

2376
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 3: Zibakowski could play. Wow, he could play.

2377
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,639
Speaker 1: Did you call the Bears for a while.

2378
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was a cult. He was a raven.

2379
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he had a little bit of an NFL

2380
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 3: A couple of coffee. I hate to see this news yesterday.

2381
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 3: Hope the best for his health because the the statement

2382
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 3: David Bell, former Warren Central Star, former produced star had

2383
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 3: on social media, Boy, that was a tough read and

2384
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 3: saying that he suffered an injury off the field beyond

2385
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 3: his control that would potentially risk life and a limb

2386
01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 3: I believe was the phrase in there. So best to

2387
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 3: David Bell, because you want to talk about just an

2388
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 3: unbelievable two sport athlete. Honestly, there are probably some people

2389
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 3: in the state that remember More as a basketball player.

2390
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 3: In the shot he hit over Romeo Lankford to win

2391
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 3: the semi state game down there back in whatever year

2392
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 3: that would have been eighteen nineteen something like that. I

2393
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 3: remember his game at Iowa when Purdue upset Iowa. He

2394
01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 3: just went off. I think he had hell it might

2395
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 3: have been two thirty, two forty something like that in

2396
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:29,600
Speaker 3: that game. Just a great, great player and had a

2397
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 3: hip injury prior. This is not related. It doesn't sound

2398
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 3: like it is related to this injury that led to

2399
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 3: his retiring, but a hip injury that really stunted his

2400
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 3: third season with Cleveland. And then, honestly, when you're wide

2401
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 3: out and you get drafted the Cleveland Browns, you're probably

2402
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 3: already starting with you know, behind the eight ball, if

2403
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 3: you will, so best to David Bell. I hate to

2404
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 3: see anybody retire from the NFL, let alone at the

2405
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 3: age of twenty four.

2406
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a moment, Justin Williams from

2407
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 1: the Athletic tells us more about IU football as they

2408
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 1: host Michigan State this Saturday afternoon. We'll talk about it

2409
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 1: as we continue in ninety three five one to seven

2410
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 1: five the Fan and we are smack dab in the

2411
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:09,919
Speaker 1: middle of football season. Colts are five and one, Indiana

2412
01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 1: is undefeated, number three in the nation. I can't say

2413
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 1: that enough. It's just as fantastic to watch. It's it's

2414
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 1: awe inspiring, it's it's everything. We've wanted college football to

2415
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 1: be around here for a long time, and it's going well.

2416
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,520
Speaker 1: We bring in our next guest, Justin Williams from the Athletic,

2417
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 1: who joined us on the Payless Liquors Hotline this morning.

2418
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 1: Good morning, Justin, thanks for being here. We appreciate your time.

2419
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,919
Speaker 1: Is it as crazy to you to start saying Indiana

2420
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,799
Speaker 1: ranked number three in the country, and like you feel

2421
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: good about saying it, Like it's not a mirage.

2422
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 9: Right totally, and you know, let's go even further. Indiana

2423
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 9: legit national championship contender. That's what. That's what Saturday was

2424
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 9: that that win at Oregon. You know, I think anyone

2425
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 9: that's that's arguing otherwise is doing in bad faith now.

2426
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 9: So it's it's been quite a rise under Signetti, but

2427
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,560
Speaker 9: it really felt like Saturday was kind of like that

2428
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,559
Speaker 9: that exclamation point that, you know, kind of official arrival

2429
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 9: that you they've been really good, but now we're talking

2430
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 9: about them as like a team that can actually win

2431
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 9: a national championship.

2432
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 4: Justin James Voyd here, thanks for one answering my text

2433
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 4: last night. It's kind of last minute get for the show,

2434
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 4: but I know you and Ralph had sort of a

2435
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,759
Speaker 4: breakdown of the quick takeaways or reactions to that game,

2436
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 4: and I want to go back to a moment in

2437
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 4: that game where you have the pick six from Fernando

2438
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:25,760
Speaker 4: Mendoza the game is tied there on the road. What

2439
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,760
Speaker 4: did you think of the response from Iu and what

2440
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 4: that says about how serious this program can be.

2441
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that felt like the moment, right, you know,

2442
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 9: Oregon really couldn't get it going offensively. Indiana had really

2443
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 9: gotten after and sacked Dante more, but Indiana wasn't necessarily

2444
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 9: playing great offensively either, and so then it feels like,

2445
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 9: all right, Oregon's at home. They get the pick six,

2446
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 9: big momentum shift, this is it. They're going to kind

2447
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 9: of you know, salt away of the game now, and

2448
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 9: that's going to flip it. And I think that was

2449
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,599
Speaker 9: when the next was the twelve place seventy five yard

2450
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 9: drive that you know, Mendoza lead them down and to

2451
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 9: go ahead score. That was just like, you know, those

2452
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 9: are the kind of the teams that you feel like,

2453
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 9: all right, you know these teams they have their identity

2454
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 9: figured out, they have their confidence, they have their coaching

2455
01:53:10,439 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 9: where you can make a mistake like that can feel like,

2456
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 9: you know, everything thing's kind of going against you. And

2457
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,719
Speaker 9: then instead of panicking or instead of stuff falling apart,

2458
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:19,920
Speaker 9: you know, they actually kind of locked in and then

2459
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 9: you know, they go on that drive. They pick off

2460
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 9: more twice in the fourth quarter, So it was all

2461
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:26,640
Speaker 9: just kind of part of it.

2462
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 5: You know.

2463
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 9: I think everyone watching that game going into it was like,

2464
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 9: all right, is it going to be like last year

2465
01:53:31,120 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 9: when you know, they really weren't up for that game

2466
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 9: against Ohio State on the road and they couldn't hang

2467
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 9: with Notre Dame in the playoffs, and so then they're

2468
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 9: kind of you know, hanging around at the close game

2469
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 9: and and then that moment never probably thinking like all right,

2470
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 9: this is it. You know, this word it's going to

2471
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 9: fall apart, and they just at every turn this year

2472
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,759
Speaker 9: have kind of proven whether it was that Illinois game

2473
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 9: or you know, just the way they've kind of dominated

2474
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 9: every other opponent. And then to have that that game

2475
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 9: on the road just a completely you know, impressive win.

2476
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 9: It definitely solidified and erase any doubt that anyone should

2477
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 9: have about them.

2478
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 3: Justin Williams with us here from the athletic I call

2479
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 3: what James said. We appreciate you joining us justin here

2480
01:54:08,479 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 3: on this Wednesday morning. If I would have asked you

2481
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 3: this question, I don't know, ten years ago, you probably

2482
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 3: would have laughed at me compare the IU job to

2483
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 3: the Penn State job. But now, I don't know, I

2484
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 3: think that question might have a little bit more relevance

2485
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 3: as you hear Kurt Signetti's name whatever, probably on a

2486
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 3: wish list for Penn State fans more than anything at

2487
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 3: this point. How would you view in today's college football

2488
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 3: landscape the year of twenty twenty five, how would you

2489
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 3: view Penn State's opening versus the Indiana job.

2490
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and.

2491
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 9: Let's be honest, like every school that's going to have

2492
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 9: an opening, there's probably gon be a decent amount of them.

2493
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 9: Signette's going to be on those lists, and he should be.

2494
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 9: And this is it's kind of the good problem to

2495
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 9: have if you're Indiana that everyone wants to hire your coach.

2496
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 9: I do think it'll be really interesting. Obviously, there's some

2497
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 9: ties Signetti being a Pittsburgh guy, you know, coached at JMU,

2498
01:54:57,760 --> 01:55:00,600
Speaker 9: which isn't too far outside of that kind of that region.

2499
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 9: But I'm very curious in the kind of the whether

2500
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 9: it's the new revenue sharing house settlement or just this

2501
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 9: whole NIL transfer portal, like it has totally kind of

2502
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 9: changed things. Now, that doesn't mean that India or Penn

2503
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 9: State suddenly like a terrible job. There's gonna be some

2504
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 9: obvious pools there if they fire a guy and pay him,

2505
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 9: you know, forty five to fifty million dollars just as

2506
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 9: a buyout. That means that you're feeling pretty secure with

2507
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 9: your money and you're going to take a big swing.

2508
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 9: So if Signetti is on that shortlist or Penn State, look,

2509
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 9: they're gonna they're gonna offer him the move, the moon.

2510
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 9: They're gonna, you know, come and give him whatever he

2511
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 9: wants Godfather offer to try and get him away. I

2512
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 9: think the question will be can whatever Indiana offers, whether

2513
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 9: that's you know, from a revenue share standpoint, but also

2514
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 9: just infrastructure, nil resources, can it be Can it match that?

2515
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 9: Can it be close enough? Because now you start getting

2516
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 9: into with the rev share, like they're going to give

2517
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 9: some money to basketball at Indiana. Obviously that's an important thing.

2518
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 9: So how does all that balance? But also, you know,

2519
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 9: I do think there's this aspect with Signetty, like Indiana

2520
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 9: kind of gave him his shot right at the Power

2521
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 9: Conference level. He had won everywhere, hadn't really gotten that job.

2522
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,600
Speaker 9: Does he feel a certain loyalty to Indiana for doing that.

2523
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 9: I don't think it's unfair to say, like, yes, if

2524
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:18,600
Speaker 9: Penn State wants him, this is going to be a

2525
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 9: tough decision for him to make, but I also s

2526
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 9: don't think it's unfair to say he might ultimately look

2527
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 9: at it and be like, no, I want to be

2528
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 9: here in Indiana. You know I can win here. I've

2529
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 9: proven that I have everything I need here, and so

2530
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 9: I think the question will be can whatever Penn State

2531
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 9: throws at him, can Indiana match it or at least

2532
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 9: come close enough for him to say like, No, this

2533
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 9: is where I want to.

2534
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 1: Be talking to Justin Williams from the Athletic IU Football

2535
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: the topic of discussion today. I want to dig down

2536
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: deeper on how this team is even taking a step

2537
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: forward over what they did last year. To your comments

2538
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 1: just a moment ago. We see Fernando Mendoz has been

2539
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 1: a terrific quarterback, and they've got speed, and the lines

2540
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: on both sides of the football have held up. But

2541
01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 1: talk about Indiana's defense and how they've been able to

2542
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: keep their offense in games with anybody this year?

2543
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, I mean that's that was the story of

2544
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 9: the game Saturday. Oregon had been sacked once all year

2545
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 9: coming into that game. Indiana comes in and gets to

2546
01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 9: Dante Moore six times, and some of it was them

2547
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 9: creating pressure. Some of it was just whatever they were

2548
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 9: scheming up or whatever they were doing in coverage. Dante

2549
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 9: Moore clearly wasn't seeing, you know, the field very well

2550
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 9: because he just didn't have a good game overall. And

2551
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 9: so this is a guy that came into the game

2552
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:30,080
Speaker 9: as a heisman, you know, favorite hopeful, and Indiana just

2553
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:31,800
Speaker 9: you know, kind of put him in a body bag.

2554
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 9: And you know, I think the most impressive thing is

2555
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:39,200
Speaker 9: the evaluation and development of talent. You know, Signette brought

2556
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 9: all those guys from JMU, and JMU had a good team,

2557
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 9: but you're not thinking that, Okay, you're going to go

2558
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 9: into the Big Ten and then start to dominate. D'Angelo Pond's,

2559
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 9: you know, be the best cornerback in the country. You know,

2560
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 9: Aidan Fisher is a tackling machine. Kamara he brought with them,

2561
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 9: you know, all these guys that that he brings with

2562
01:57:56,200 --> 01:58:00,040
Speaker 9: him from his previous job. There's clearly some identification on

2563
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 9: on Signettian, his staff's part, and then some development with

2564
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 9: those players that now in year two in the Big Ten,

2565
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 9: you know, they're out there dominating against an Oregon team

2566
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,080
Speaker 9: that was like putting up close to fifty points a

2567
01:58:12,120 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 9: game entering that, and so I just have a ton

2568
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 9: of respect for that staff and Signetti and what he's

2569
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 9: been able to do in terms of you know, if

2570
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 9: you just look at recruiting talent, actually think the whole

2571
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 9: talent composite, you know, numbers that are out there for recruiting.

2572
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,839
Speaker 9: I think Indiana still laughs in the Big ten technically,

2573
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 9: which is just hilarious because when you watch them play,

2574
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 9: they're complete unit. They move people on both sides of

2575
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage, and they just have you know,

2576
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 9: guys that whether you want to say it's the holes

2577
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 9: greater than the some of the parts, or they play

2578
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 9: above their ability, whatever, they've kind of figured out the

2579
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 9: combination of scheme players and then developing them to be

2580
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:48,839
Speaker 9: one of the best teams in the country.

2581
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 4: Justin as we look ahead for the rest of the

2582
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 4: record season schedule for the Hoosiers, is there a game

2583
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 4: that we should be worried about. I'm looking at UCLA

2584
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 4: two weeks now, and I'm like, suddenly, they're actually kind

2585
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,840
Speaker 4: of scary to me. So as much as we have

2586
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 4: ridden high on the wave of IU and after that

2587
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:10,080
Speaker 4: Oregon win, it feels like Oh my gosh, you're just

2588
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 4: a shoe win and get a buye into the college

2589
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 4: football playoff.

2590
01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 6: We know how weird this sport can be. So do

2591
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 6: you have some games.

2592
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Michigan State, Ucla, Maryland, Penn State, Wisconsin,

2593
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 4: Purdue to close it out any of those opponents.

2594
01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 6: Opponents should scare us.

2595
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean this is why, like, you can't play

2596
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 9: the schedule game in college football, right because three weeks

2597
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 9: ago it's like, man, that that trip to Penn State,

2598
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:32,120
Speaker 9: that's going to be really tough. And now all of

2599
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 9: a sudden they have an interim coach and their quarterbacks

2600
01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 9: hurt and same thing. You know Ucla. No one was

2601
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 9: expecting Penn State to go out there and get beat

2602
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 9: so on paper, no, you're you're looking at this schedule

2603
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 9: and you're thinking, like, man, they should be able to

2604
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 9: kind of cruise control into the you know, Big Ten

2605
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 9: championship game, whether that's playing you know, another undefeated team

2606
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,680
Speaker 9: in Ohio State or whatever happens. But I think this

2607
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 9: will also be kind of the next challenge for Indiana, right, Like,

2608
01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 9: they were always kind of trying to punch through that

2609
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:02,640
Speaker 9: ceiling and they had respect. They made the playoff last year,

2610
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 9: but again, people weren't necessarily looking at them as the

2611
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 9: title contender. Now you have that, you have all the

2612
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 9: attention that comes with that. It'll be interesting to see

2613
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:12,839
Speaker 9: how they respond here down the stretch when the targets

2614
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 9: on their back. You know, they have, you know, kind

2615
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:17,560
Speaker 9: of everyone gunning for them, and they have games that

2616
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 9: you know they're going to be favored. Jeeh, I don't

2617
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:22,839
Speaker 9: buy you know, probably close to double dude, it's digits

2618
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:25,240
Speaker 9: in every one of these games that's left. It'll be

2619
02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 9: interesting to see if they can kind of go out

2620
02:00:26,680 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 9: and live up to that. But man, if you're an

2621
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 9: IU fan just kind of playing the schedule game and

2622
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,920
Speaker 9: looking on paper, I'm not telling you to go ahead

2623
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:37,680
Speaker 9: and book your you know, your stay in Indianapolis for

2624
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,320
Speaker 9: the for the title game, but you know, maybe at

2625
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 9: least pencil.

2626
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:44,600
Speaker 3: It in justin last one and correct me if I'm wrong.

2627
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 3: You covered Cincinnati when Alec Pierce was.

2628
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:48,839
Speaker 9: There, I did, correct.

2629
02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:52,640
Speaker 3: What do you remember just about like his ascent there,

2630
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 3: because you know, I I definitely remember the Indiana game,

2631
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 3: the Notre Dame game where Pierce made huge plays, and

2632
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,000
Speaker 3: then now here obviously in our city, he's turned into

2633
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 3: quite the home run hitter on an NFL level. So

2634
02:01:04,640 --> 02:01:07,360
Speaker 3: what do you remember about Alec Pierce becoming you know,

2635
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:09,320
Speaker 3: it took a little bit, but I think coming a

2636
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 3: big time target there for Desmond Rod.

2637
02:01:11,680 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, great kid comes from a great, really athletic family.

2638
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 9: Two stories stand out to me about covering Peers. So

2639
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 9: after his freshman year, which he didn't play much during

2640
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 9: bowl practice, they worked him out at a linebacker. And

2641
02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,200
Speaker 9: this is when Marcus Freeman was phillipin sid he was

2642
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 9: a defensive coordinator, and I remember Freeman saying, like, if

2643
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:34,440
Speaker 9: Piers wanted to be a linebacker, if he wanted to

2644
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 9: hit and be a defensive player, he could be like

2645
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 9: an All American linebacker. He's just like, he doesn't want

2646
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 9: to do that. He's a pretty boy. He wants to

2647
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 9: be a receiver. He wants to run and you know,

2648
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 9: catch sixty yard bombs. But even early on, like when

2649
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:47,480
Speaker 9: he you know, hadn't necessarily cracked the rotation and receiver,

2650
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 9: they were just trying to find ways to get him

2651
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 9: on the field because he was such a you know,

2652
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 9: athletic gifted talent. And then the other one that stands

2653
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:56,400
Speaker 9: out is the COVID, you know when that happened, and

2654
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 9: everyone gets sent home for the summer. So we're talking

2655
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 9: summer twenty and they finally bring these players back on campus. Everybody.

2656
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:05,880
Speaker 9: I mean, this wasn't just Cincinnati, across the country. All

2657
02:02:05,880 --> 02:02:07,640
Speaker 9: these guys are out of shape, and you know, just

2658
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 9: they've been stuck inside. They didn't know what to do.

2659
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,360
Speaker 9: And Pierce came back and had somehow added like two

2660
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 9: inches to his vertical, Like the training staff couldn't believe

2661
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 9: that this guy came back and he's like, you know,

2662
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 9: jumping forty two inches and basically was in better shape

2663
02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 9: than when he had left. And he was just like, oh, yeah,

2664
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 9: I worked out at home with my brothers or whatever.

2665
02:02:25,200 --> 02:02:27,400
Speaker 9: But those two, like you talk about kind of what

2666
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 9: a freakish, you know, player is. He's also super smart.

2667
02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 9: He has like an engineering degree from Cincinnati, which is

2668
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,840
Speaker 9: a ridiculously hard program. A really impressive kid. But I

2669
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:39,760
Speaker 9: always just remember those two things, like them trying to

2670
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:41,480
Speaker 9: put him at linebacker because they wanted to get him

2671
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:43,720
Speaker 9: on the field, and then everyone coming back out of

2672
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 9: shape from COVID, and Pierce is in the best shape

2673
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:46,839
Speaker 9: of his life.

2674
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 1: Justin thanks for time. This morning. We appreciate it. We'll

2675
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 1: talk to you this season moves along, but appreciate your thoughts.

2676
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,640
Speaker 1: How fun this weekend ay trime.

2677
02:02:53,680 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 6: Thank you ving Justin.

2678
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: Williams, the Athletic covering IU football, joining us here on

2679
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 1: the Payless Liquors Hotline. All right, I'm still feeling generous, Caleb.

2680
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: You ready to go again?

2681
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm ready.

2682
02:03:03,640 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 1: Text me up two three nine ten seventy two family

2683
02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: four packs to see the Indy eleven on Saturday night

2684
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: at seven pm against Loudon United. It's a terrific place

2685
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 1: to spend the evening with your family. We've got you

2686
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:19,760
Speaker 1: hooked up, but you need to write Indy eleven in

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02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:21,960
Speaker 1: a text at two three nine ten seventy two three

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Speaker 1: nine ten seventy. We'll get two winners before the end

2689
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 1: of the show. We'll tell you who they are as

2690
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Speaker 1: we continue next to ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 7: If you were listening to the Van Morning Show on

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Speaker 7: Sports Radio, ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 7: The Fans.

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Speaker 13: Hih one final time here on Wednesday, really enjoined dot combo.

2696
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:47,680
Speaker 13: Justin Williams covers college football for the Athletic. That'll be

2697
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,400
Speaker 13: up on the podcast James the Alec Pierce ans or.

2698
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 13: He used to cover the Cincinnati Bearcats and covered Pierce

2699
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 13: and told the story about how Marcus Freeman was a

2700
02:03:57,280 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 13: defensive coordinator and during bullprep one year saw Alec Pierce

2701
02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 13: play some linebacker and thought, oh boy, this guy might

2702
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 13: have a little defensive uh future here.

2703
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 3: And obviously I did not pan out, but I think

2704
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:11,680
Speaker 3: it got some people. The YouTube chat going down a

2705
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:17,280
Speaker 3: different path of could you name the best starting five colts?

2706
02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 3: Starting five on the basketball floor? So current cult roster?

2707
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 3: What do you got here?

2708
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 6: I have j T.

2709
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:28,240
Speaker 4: Towy Moloao, who you can check out his high school highlights.

2710
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:31,600
Speaker 4: He played with Palo ban Caro, same AAU team. So

2711
02:04:31,760 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 4: lets you know Pallo ban Caro number Antonio Gates vibe

2712
02:04:34,440 --> 02:04:35,040
Speaker 4: to him like six.

2713
02:04:36,320 --> 02:04:37,400
Speaker 6: JT to Moloao.

2714
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:40,120
Speaker 4: He told me he's nice, nice on the basketball court.

2715
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 4: I think you have to go Molly Cox play tage basketball.

2716
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:48,200
Speaker 4: That's a default answer right there. Sure Daniel Jones can

2717
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:51,880
Speaker 4: get buckets. Okay, So I'm rolling with Daniel Jones and

2718
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:53,400
Speaker 4: I think I got my bigs figured out.

2719
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:54,879
Speaker 6: Now I need two guards.

2720
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 3: I think your point guard's obvious who's my point guard.

2721
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:00,680
Speaker 3: I think it's gotta Kenny Moore.

2722
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 6: I trust Kenny Moore to get things.

2723
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 3: Imagine picking up full court. Yeah, you imagine Kenny Moore TJ.

2724
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 3: McConnell just picking each other up full court for the

2725
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 3: whole game.

2726
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 4: And for what I understand, they're actually, you know, fairly,

2727
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:13,920
Speaker 4: you know, familiar with each other and what they've done

2728
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:17,240
Speaker 4: in the city. Two undrafted guys, So I'd roll with

2729
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 4: them Kenny Moore.

2730
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 6: And we need we need to we need a slasher.

2731
02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:21,160
Speaker 6: We need someone can get to the basket.

2732
02:05:21,320 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2733
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh, I'm trying to think, man.

2734
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:29,080
Speaker 3: I feel like Nick Cross would be interesting. No, Nick

2735
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:30,600
Speaker 3: Cross strikes me as a dude that might have a

2736
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 3: broke jumper.

2737
02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 2: He's he is, I think one of those football players

2738
02:05:35,240 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 2: that plays basket, right, you know it's in the reck gym.

2739
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 6: Oh you know what's.

2740
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:44,920
Speaker 4: I'm going with Tyler Goodson because he grew up playing

2741
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:46,720
Speaker 4: AU basketball with Ben Shephard.

2742
02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh look at you digging this out.

2743
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can tell how much I've gone down his

2744
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 6: rabbit hole.

2745
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:57,200
Speaker 3: Jones in at the three. If I'm reading your lineup, JT. T. Moiley, Cox,

2746
02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:00,360
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Tyler Goodson, Kennymore. Yeah, that might be my

2747
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:03,400
Speaker 3: five they had. I also wanted the quarterback. I went

2748
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson now to be able to point it out here,

2749
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 3: and I'm I hand raised on this. Probably should have

2750
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 3: Riley Leonard.

2751
02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 14: Ooh, I actually forgot about legit act like like he

2752
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 14: literally Washington, but Riley Leonard by all, I might.

2753
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:26,280
Speaker 4: Swap Tyler out or Kenny out with Riley and have

2754
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 4: the other one come off the bench as my sixth man.

2755
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:30,840
Speaker 6: And you know that might be that might be actually good.

2756
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:33,400
Speaker 3: Look, this is literally one of the biggest debates in

2757
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 3: that locker room on a daily basis. And I mean

2758
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:37,920
Speaker 3: I've covered the NFL now for fifteen years. Every single

2759
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 3: year they argue over who is the best basketball player

2760
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:42,640
Speaker 3: on the football team. And I feel this a little

2761
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 3: bit about following Notre Dame right now, Mark Zachary great

2762
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:47,320
Speaker 3: basketball player.

2763
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:49,720
Speaker 6: I've been one state championship undefeated.

2764
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 3: And they're always asking him, you know, because he's obviously

2765
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:54,720
Speaker 3: one of the better basketball players. You know, who's the

2766
02:06:54,720 --> 02:06:56,240
Speaker 3: best hooper the football team?

2767
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 2: If we have Ashton Doulan taking defensive snaps, don't you

2768
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 2: think he could play basket ball?

2769
02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2770
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 3: Probably that's probably can you imagine the defensive stopper that.

2771
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say I did hoop with Ar a

2772
02:07:06,760 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 4: couple of years ago, right before he signed his rookie contract,

2773
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 4: probably his last public basketball game before he was an

2774
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 4: officially employee of the NFL. And yeah, the guy is

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Speaker 4: athletic is all get out, as you all know. He

2776
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Speaker 4: was dunking the ball with ease. But the jumper will

2777
02:07:20,720 --> 02:07:24,839
Speaker 4: certainly suspect. I think that I could in a shooting contest.

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02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 4: I serious think that I could probably hold my own

2779
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:28,960
Speaker 4: against Ar, which isn't say much because both of us

2780
02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 4: aren't shooting that great from the outside. So yeah, I

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02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 4: think that would be a fun debate. Maybe I'll bring

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02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:36,360
Speaker 4: it up to day in the locker room, because if

2783
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:39,040
Speaker 4: there's one thing to get the guys talking, it's asking

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02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:41,800
Speaker 4: them about other athletic talents and gifts.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I should laugh at this might be

2786
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 3: a little in the too soon, but ross here, Drew

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Speaker 3: Ogletree clearly wouldn't have court vision. That's rough easy Now,

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Speaker 3: Drew Ogletree suvarious war before the game on Sunday. All right,

2789
02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 3: you and I will both be up at Colts coming

2790
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 3: up later today. Obviously we'll get more into Brett Rippen.

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Speaker 3: Still no official word on that move, by the way,

2792
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 3: unless I've missed it.

2793
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:08,320
Speaker 6: No, I have not seen it.

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02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:11,880
Speaker 4: I have had the Colt's post notifications on for years

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Speaker 4: at this point, so.

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Speaker 6: I tried to miss those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they would need to do that before practice starts.

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02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 3: Of course here upcoming they do have an open practice.

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Speaker 3: They don't do the just handshake, you know. Don't think

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02:08:21,520 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 3: the NFL is gonna let that fly there. Obviously, injury

2801
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 3: updates Kenny Moore to various ward big time because again

2802
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 3: the Chargers have great balance to their wide receiver room.

2803
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 3: Drew asked here about Ashton Doolan playing that one defensive snap. James,

2804
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:37,360
Speaker 3: I know some fans are curious on that. I know

2805
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 3: we touched on it earlier in the show, but Louien

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Speaker 3: Roumo did write some detail on that yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, basically just said it was installed, I guess in

2808
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:47,640
Speaker 4: theory to be used for Kyler Murray, but they were

2809
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:49,480
Speaker 4: n't able to use it. I guess more than that

2810
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:51,760
Speaker 4: because you only had to go. You're set in there,

2811
02:08:51,800 --> 02:08:53,400
Speaker 4: so they use it if the one time did not

2812
02:08:53,480 --> 02:08:55,000
Speaker 4: get home. And like I said, when I see Ashton

2813
02:08:55,000 --> 02:08:57,080
Speaker 4: in the locker room today, I'm gonna tell them, hey, man,

2814
02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 4: they put you out there, you didn't deliver.

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02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that third and seventeen play. I think

2816
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:07,839
Speaker 3: Bersett to McBride if I remember correctly, there on that play.

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02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:11,080
Speaker 3: So Colts back to practice today, relatively quiet night.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow we've got that mon On Spike volleyball game perdueing

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02:09:14,080 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 3: Indiana over at Gamebridge Field House. A lot of people

2821
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 3: looking forward to that, and then Friday, the Pacers will

2822
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 3: have their last preseason game of the year. Caleb great

2823
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,640
Speaker 3: work filling in. He'll be with us all week long.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back tomorrow. Jeffly back to close it out

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Speaker 3: as well. Kevin Bollen, James Boyd signing off