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Speaker 1: You got the phone bank, you got the names right

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we still do have a phone line or two

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Speaker 3: Nigel which got Hey, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 4: Gun guy, appreciate that. I have a question about Second

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Speaker 4: Amendment carry. I'd like to know if there's any reciprocity

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know a lot of people call that

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Speaker 3: In fact, we're up to thirty states. I believe we're

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Speaker 3: right at thirty that have passed constitutional carry. Each of

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Speaker 3: It's incredible, it is pretty cools. Go back to the

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Speaker 1: Now take one more Okay, keep calling two three nine

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Speaker 3: That sounds great. Let's go to Dave. Dave, welcome to

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Speaker 4: Hey guy, it's a great show so far.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 4: I think your first caller, Jim stole my thunder. I

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Speaker 4: I think it worth like is legal in thirty two states?

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Speaker 4: But if it's worth it, but apparently if you go

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Speaker 4: got to follow up on this your two A Project.

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Speaker 4: Are you alad to talk about this on the show?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: You bet? Yeah? The two A Project two A Project

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Speaker 3: It's based right here in Indiana. If you ask the legislators,

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Speaker 3: We'd love to have folks as a member and you

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, thanks the gun guy guy, Ralphord filling

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Speaker 3: Did you bet? Let's go right back to the phone lines,

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Speaker 3: and Bill has called Bill. Welcome to Hammer, Nigel.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks guy, great great show today. Guys, thanks making

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Speaker 6: my call.

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Speaker 3: Thanks a much.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm embarrassed to say, guy, I don't know the

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Speaker 3: Sure? Absolutely, that's just a legal modification of the gun.

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Speaker 3: You're not turning into a machine gun. You're not turning

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Speaker 3: Right and and and no AOW doesn't specifically does not

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Speaker 1: Question here though, why would you want to remove a

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Speaker 3: draw and fire within a certain amount of time, or

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Speaker 3: you're in competition to draw and fire faster than somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Somebody always forgets to flick the safety and you're sitting

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Speaker 3: there pulling the trigger. Nothing's happening, you know, And theoretically,

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Speaker 3: this time. So like a lot of police carry glocks, right,

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Speaker 3: or a lot of cops before the problems with them

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Speaker 3: like SIGs like SIG three to twenty. There's no safety

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Speaker 3: And that's because cops don't want to have to remember

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Speaker 3: to disengage the safety before they pull the trigger and

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Speaker 3: it goes boom.

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Speaker 1: Sixty seconds left. Sorry, that was my fault. I was

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Speaker 1: kind of curious about that though.

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Speaker 3: No, it's an interesting question. I'm glad we had time

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Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 2: Colton.

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Speaker 3: You're on the clock. Brother, you got a quick question,

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Speaker 3: I'll get you an answer. Yeah, quick question for you guy.

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Speaker 5: Could you just quickly explain some of the pros and

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Speaker 5: cons to going through registering.

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Speaker 6: And that' SDR for purchase and going through the ar

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Speaker 6: pistol route.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, to have a pistol, you

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Speaker 3: have to have a brace on it. And listen, I'm

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Speaker 3: just not a fan of braces. Braces they're not real stocks.

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Speaker 3: They typically aren't adjustable, they don't function as stocks. I'd

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Speaker 3: rather have a real stock or my damn gun. That's

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Speaker 3: why I'm going to SBR my guns, that is, making

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Speaker 3: a short barreled rifle. And the big plus starting January

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Speaker 3: first is now the stamp to get your registration on

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Speaker 3: an SBR is free as of January one. That was

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Speaker 3: a provisioned in Trump's Great, Big, Beautiful Bill. So I

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Speaker 3: don't own an AR pistol because I don't like braces.

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Speaker 3: I like real stocks. And that's exactly the answer to

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Speaker 3: your question from my perspective, brother,