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Speaker 1: and it's cigars they offer in cigar lounges and online,

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Speaker 1: just rare stuff, if you will. It's through this in

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Speaker 1: one of the lounges I frequent here in Central Indiana

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Speaker 1: that I found the Sublime from Pinnacle. This is a

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Speaker 1: six by fifty cigar. That means it is six inches

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Speaker 1: long tea always makes fingers in more way laugh and

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Speaker 2: Again, Wow, that's a new one. It's a little addition.

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Speaker 2: You got that. Well, it's six years into the show.

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Speaker 2: You got to mix things up a little bit right

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Speaker 1: So a sixty four ring gage is a full one

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Speaker 2: So this is a bottom I think.

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Speaker 1: At first glanced though this kind of looks like a connecticut.

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Speaker 1: It is a more standard light brown, maybe a little

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Speaker 2: Of veining going on through here.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and then on top of it you throw in

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Speaker 3: this band, which is absolutely beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Right it's nine feet long. The band is huge right there?

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Speaker 3: Do you find that annoying when some cigar companies make

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Speaker 2: That has never ever bothered me.

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Speaker 2: It's just you make me do too much work, or.

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Speaker 1: You have decided that the glue should be some kind

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Speaker 3: No part of the cigar experience should feel like work.

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Speaker 3: Won't put that on a T shirt. I already did,

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Speaker 3: did you? You can get it at our website. I

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Speaker 2: Oh, I love that place. I love that place. It's right.

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Speaker 1: You also find that where you go to We'll get

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Speaker 2: It's a grand spot.

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Speaker 1: Pinnacle, the sublime, the six by fifty. So it's got

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Speaker 1: So with the ball bat, we mean that with a

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Speaker 3: Wowst yes, went to the place I try to paint

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Speaker 1: All these things will affect how you you take in flavors. So,

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Speaker 1: the Sublime from Pinnacle Cigars. I don't know much about

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised is going to bring that spice, but

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Speaker 1: This is the sublime from Pinnacle is what we are smoking.

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Speaker 2: See? This is this is the whole point t Drink Smoke.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers.

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Speaker 4: Yes, how do we all know the same things? How

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Speaker 1: The pantyhose that comes in the egg and maybe more

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Speaker 2: The name pantyhose. That's true.

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Speaker 3: And now I got to google the name of that

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Speaker 2: And that's interesting as well. But the.

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Speaker 2: Right, you've done that before?

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Speaker 4: You have?

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Speaker 2: You had that movie? Well, I know I believe it

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Speaker 2: Well it's learning. No, the AI is nowhere near where

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Speaker 1: When it doesn't do the task that it is asked

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Speaker 2: Enjoy that thought for a few days.

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Speaker 1: amateur drinker, Fingers molloy. We are smoking from Pinnacle Cigars.

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Speaker 1: This is the Sublime. We learned about this at a

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Speaker 1: The wood is where I don't know if I agree,

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Speaker 1: something going on? So as we discussed it was Cigar Fashionado,

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Speaker 1: who una was a David Savona or somebody else that

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Speaker 1: imports were up first quarter? Everything going on with uncertainty

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Speaker 1: and everything else. The imports were up first quarter, but

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Speaker 1: that could be people pre buying the tariffs because tariffs

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Speaker 1: have had app We could talk about a lot of

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Speaker 1: places where tariffs have not been pushed onto the consumer. Cigars,

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Speaker 1: ain't it kitting? Every price is up everywhere.

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Speaker 3: So maybe that could be an answer to the question

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Speaker 3: that is being posed, is because cigar imports were higher

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Speaker 3: than expected the first quarter, maybe people bought up a

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Speaker 3: lot of inventory and now they're heavy on inventory and

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Speaker 3: they want to let loose on some of their sticks.

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Speaker 1: This is a level of blowout I'm not prepared for.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: The the all of a V Millennia.

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Speaker 3: At six bucks, Yeah, less than six bucks, and that

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Speaker 3: like a Buffalo ten price, Yes, in.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo ten's a fine smoke for six bucks, but

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Speaker 1: six dollars? What's your everyday cigar? The V millennium. You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: That's that is a that is not a bad place

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Speaker 1: to be. Now, if I if I had my druthers,

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Speaker 1: it would it be the cigar that I smoke every day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but it would be in any top

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Speaker 1: ten conversation cigars you could have every day. The V

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Speaker 1: just the V never mind. The millennio is good for

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Speaker 1: any weather, right, It's good. It's good for all occasions.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what's happening. I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: going on. But that really did strike me as a huh.

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Speaker 1: And so now I'm like, I'm doing my own investigation

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Speaker 1: as to what else can be found and what else

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Speaker 1: is happening. But this right here, this Hamano, ECUADORI and Hamano.

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Speaker 1: It's a nice nice stick time fingers alway.

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Speaker 3: For news of the week, USA Today has the story Tony.

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Speaker 3: A new report says that each of the two major

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Speaker 3: wildfires that devastated parts of Los Angeles County in January

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Speaker 3: costs more than twice as much as they previously thought,

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Speaker 3: adding up to sixty five billion dollars in losses.

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Speaker 2: The fires, yes, sixty five billion with a bee.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, and most of it has to do with

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Speaker 3: the fact that, you know, the increase the increased tag

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Speaker 3: has to do with the location of a lot of

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Speaker 3: these homes that were destroyed in the fire.

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Speaker 1: Every conversation about loss in the fires, you know, that

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Speaker 1: can lead you down political roads. And we don't really

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Speaker 1: get political on the show, right, we are political people.

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Speaker 1: We don't do it for the show. We'd like to

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Speaker 1: stay away from that. But allow me this part of it.

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Speaker 1: Why hasn't the rebuilding begun?

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Speaker 2: It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Why hasn't this happened? Why are they holding this up?

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Speaker 1: What is this permitting issue? Are they going to allow

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Speaker 1: people to rebuild their homes? Are they going to say no,

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Speaker 1: you can't do that? And bless Adam Carolla, who has

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Speaker 1: been the hero of this conversation. Has he is still

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Speaker 1: in southern California and me, I was there for six

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Speaker 1: years and I said, okay, I've had enough here, thank you, Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: good night. I'm sorry. I don't care about your politics.

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Speaker 1: This is the story. It's not the losses. Because we

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Speaker 1: could talk a lot of things about the fires and

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Speaker 1: why they weren't put out sooner, and the issues and

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Speaker 1: the and how they dealt with brush management, and and

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Speaker 1: and everything else.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't they rebuilding that?

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you want to make that political,

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Speaker 1: more than happy to do it, because no matter where

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Speaker 1: your politics are, you should be incensed by it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it feels like, if I'm remember remembering this correctly,

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Speaker 3: local and state officials talked about how we're going to

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Speaker 3: streamline the process. There's going to be a lot less

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Speaker 3: red tape. But then you mentioned Adam Carolla who has

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Speaker 3: been documenting the progress in front of his home. His

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Speaker 3: home wasn't really damaged all that much on the fire,

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Speaker 3: but in front of his home, the ocean front property,

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Speaker 3: a lot of it was destroyed, and he is he's

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Speaker 3: documented on his YouTube channel. There's been no progress at

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Speaker 3: all when it comes to here around build and it's

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Speaker 3: and it is obscene.

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Speaker 1: It is it seems purposeful in its delay. There seems

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Speaker 1: to be a real want to try and change, uh,

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Speaker 1: the the whole concept of what the Palisades was and people,

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Speaker 1: you owned the house, and well you're not going to

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Speaker 1: have that anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's gross. What's happening.

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Speaker 1: The Chinese want you to know that it's not good

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Speaker 1: to make fun of the other sex.

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Speaker 2: Are we being specific?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's just it. I don't know. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: the story and then we'll figure it out. Go on, tea, drink, smoke,

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Speaker 1: Come Tony Katz. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker.

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Speaker 1: Fingers Maloy the Guardian with the story. Chinese officials, so

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the Chinese Communist Party, obviously warn comedians

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Speaker 1: that mocking the other sex is no laughing matter. The

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Speaker 1: warning comes after a string of shows by women comedians

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Speaker 1: joking about men went viral, so provincial officials warning comics again,

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Speaker 1: stirring up discord between the genders and struggling them to

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Speaker 1: criticize constructively rather than for the sake of being funny.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Here's the problem. When you're going political

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Speaker 2: tenant is murder.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who disagrees with you also stand in line for

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Speaker 1: twelve hours for bread.

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Speaker 2: These people don't know funny. Commedis do not know funny?

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Speaker 2: That is that is obvious.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you're a Chinese comedian and you say you

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Speaker 3: murdered when you're on stage, be a whole different conversation altogether.

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Speaker 1: When you're a communist, when you remember the Communist Chinese

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Speaker 1: Party not Chinese.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about Chinese in China, I'm not talking about it.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about communists. You gotta say it right because

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Speaker 1: someone's gonna come at you. You know, it's like the

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Speaker 1: joke from a Robin Williams has told this joke. Evan say,

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Speaker 1: it has a takeoff of this joke.

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Speaker 2: Why aren't Germans funny? He killed all the Jews? I

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Speaker 2: mean that is the wow, that's the joke. I'm this

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Speaker 2: is the set quite literally.

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Speaker 1: If Robin Williams was alive today, he'd be like called it.

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Speaker 2: It's the same concept.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say I did see the bit that

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Speaker 3: the Chinese communist were upset about. This female comedian got

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Speaker 3: up and she said, you ever noticed that men are

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Speaker 3: from Mars and women are from Venus?

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Speaker 2: The bit whole bit.

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Speaker 1: Uh. I must admit that the first part of the

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Speaker 1: story that really grabs me is stand up comics in China.

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Speaker 2: What are you saying?

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that it seems like an impossible place for

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Speaker 1: a stand up to be able to do anything because

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Speaker 1: of all of the government pressures that are on you.

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Speaker 2: It seems an impossible thing to do.

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Speaker 1: The only way I know sometimes that America is still

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Speaker 1: free is that you know, comics are out there doing

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Speaker 1: their shame. Gillis has a career shame. Gillis gets hired

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Speaker 1: by Saturday Night Live. They find three errant tweets, they

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Speaker 1: fire the dude, and ten years later he's hosting Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night Live. It's the only way I know America is

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Speaker 1: still the greatest. Well, it's the only way possible.

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Speaker 3: I do know that at the Beijing Comedy Store, it's

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Speaker 3: been said that when you.

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Speaker 2: When you go, that.

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Speaker 1: Was done delay on my part.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, when you go to the Beijing Comedy Store,

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Speaker 3: they do say when you visit the laugh factory, literally, yeah,

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Speaker 3: three hours later you want to return.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a factory joke. You're doing a Chinese joke

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Speaker 1: as a Communists are not buddy, See, you can't do this.

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Speaker 2: In communist China. So I was really taken by that.

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Speaker 1: Instead of mocking blindly confident men, it is better to

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Speaker 1: explore the social causes for this mentality. Instead of blindly

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Speaker 1: ridiculing maternalistic women, it is better to reflect on how

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Speaker 1: consumerism shapes gender roles. The government giving you tips on

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Speaker 1: how to be.

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Speaker 3: Funny, when central planning comes down to the comedy store,

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Speaker 3: then you know comedy is dead in your country.

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Speaker 1: Comedy, self expression, freedom of thought, all these things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is this the wrong show to admit that

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Speaker 2: communism sucks? Like?

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Speaker 1: Is that somehow? Is that a problem for anybody?

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Speaker 3: Probably there'll somebody be out there saying, right now, stick

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Speaker 3: to the cigars.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, you can email me at suck it at,

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Speaker 1: Eat drinksmokeshow dot com.

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Speaker 2: It'll probably come to us we have a catch up.

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Speaker 3: But what's amazing about this? For those of us who

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Speaker 3: are old enough to remember the Soviet Union, it felt

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Speaker 3: like there was kind of an underground comedy scene, or

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Speaker 3: at least people in Russia, you know, where they were

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Speaker 3: not afraid to express their sense of humor privately.

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Speaker 2: But this is.

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Speaker 3: Something where they are they're actually coming down on female comedians.

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Speaker 3: I would be interested. You don't think of stand up

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Speaker 3: comedy and China, No, no, no, no, you don't. So

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Speaker 3: it'd be interesting I would. Of course, Obviously the language

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Speaker 3: barrier would be a problem, but to see what the

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Speaker 3: stand up comedy scene is like in China would be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Right Well, first of all, the level of bravery that

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Speaker 1: it must take, because everybody gets it, everybody knows the problem.

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Speaker 1: The level of bravery it must take to get on stage.

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Speaker 1: And how about the bravery it takes for the audience,

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Speaker 1: because they hear the joke and they go look around

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Speaker 1: and see.

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Speaker 2: If they can. It's almost like being in a comedy

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Speaker 2: club in America. Well that was the problem, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Look am I allowed to laugh at it?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Can I laugh at this? Can I laugh at that?

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Speaker 2: You can laugh anything you want. Don't let anybody tell

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Speaker 2: you can't. Screw those people, dear Lord, and.

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Speaker 1: And they are the call them the Karens, or call

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Speaker 1: them the thought police, call political correctness there.

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Speaker 2: They're all the enemy. They're all the absolute enemy, you know.

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Speaker 1: The I don't think that saying I'm a comic is

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Speaker 1: a shield against all criticism, But I think being able

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Speaker 1: to say what you want is shielded by the First

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Speaker 1: Amendment right, And even that has limits. There are whole

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Speaker 1: theories and conversations philosophies about what are the limits of

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Speaker 1: the First Amendment? Are there are there reasonable moral limits

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Speaker 1: one should have on it for oneself? And then are

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Speaker 1: their legal limits? Is anything truly absolute? And the answer

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Speaker 1: for by the way, for people who want to say

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Speaker 1: that their First Amendment absolutist, and they can say anything

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Speaker 1: they want it and and they're protected slander and libel

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Speaker 1: or not right the spoken word of the written word

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Speaker 1: that these things are not. You've seen lawsuits regarding defamation.

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Speaker 1: There are some things that simply are not acceptable that

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Speaker 1: that can get you in a whole heap of trouble.

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Speaker 2: Now, the fact that you could still say.

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Speaker 1: It is is maybe the freedom part, but it is

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Speaker 1: not free of some level of response in certain ways.

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Speaker 2: But this is a far cry.

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Speaker 1: Conversation from what we're talking about with communists China, where

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Speaker 1: you can't speak ill of men because we don't allow that.

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Speaker 2: Here. There's a lot about men that should be spoken

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Speaker 2: ill of.

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Speaker 1: H I also have a couple of women that I

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Speaker 1: could speak ill of for sure.

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Speaker 2: Names you want me to name name, sure, I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna do that. Drat not gonna have.

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Speaker 3: You know why, because you acknowledge the fact that men

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Speaker 3: are from Mars and women are from being there.

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Speaker 2: They're not, they're not. But the you know that right,

658
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: well you know that met are not from Mars.

659
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: Well, we've got people at the lab over at the

660
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 3: Fingers Maloya Institute of Institutes for Institutes looking into this

661
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: right now. We got a handsome government grant, not from

662
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: the Chi cooms, no.

663
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Chi comms.

664
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Speaker 1: Listen, just just for the sake of clarity, I'll say

665
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: anything about the evils of communism anytime I want, including

666
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: the communist Chinese. I don't care if the podcast is

667
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: no longer available in China, We're fine, thank you very much.

668
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: If any of these Chinese comics will come to the

669
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: United States, will put you on stage. We'll put you

670
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: on make it happen. I don't know how you're gonna

671
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: get out, but we will put you on stage gladly

672
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: and joyfully. But they're not ever going to hear this

673
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: offer because the podcast is not available in China.

674
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: And I never apologizes.

675
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: Just got an email from the Chinese Communist the informing

676
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: that I need to stop using the three hour joke.

677
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: Good colbat, look at you three hour joke. I think

678
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: first that there are stand up comics in China.

679
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: Did not know that that the communist Chinese are trying

680
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: to regulate this stuff is exactly what they do with

681
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: all with everything else they do with social credit scores

682
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: and everything else. And most importantly, let this be a

683
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: reminder of how fortunate we are to live and we

684
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: live in the United States, and to live free, and

685
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: to live in a place where you can where you

686
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: can be the funny.

687
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: Amen, I just wish more comics were funny. That's just well,

688
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: that's a really us Stephen Colbert joke. Trying new bourbons,

689
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: trying new things.

690
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: Man, that's the pleasure of this show. We get to

691
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: try all the stuff. It is fantastic. I advise doing

692
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: it highly.

693
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: To drink smoke.

694
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker,

695
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. This right here is Cooper's Craft. You can

696
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: find the website easy Enough to do Cooper'scraft dot com

697
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: see r aft. This is from Brown Foreman coming in,

698
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: Fingers malloy at one hundred proof. Ah, stand the applause,

699
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: Fingers he gives applause, right, anything that's one hundred proof

700
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: or over.

701
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Did I introduce the show? Did I say T drinks smoke.

702
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. That's Fingers Maloy. Yes she did, but

703
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 2: I did. There's nothing wrong with doing it again.

704
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: T drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. To that right there

705
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers maloy. This is Cooper's

706
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: Craft one hundred proof, had not tried it before, had

707
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: not seen it before, and wanted to really kind of

708
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: expand the horizon, see what else is out there. The

709
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: mash bill in this seventy five percent corn, fifteen percent rye,

710
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: ten percent malted barley. I would expect this to be

711
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: rather sweet. Fingers seventy five percent. But we've been we

712
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: have been shown how wrong we are before, have we.

713
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: Oh?

714
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, I guess I guess you're right. Yeah, I

715
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: would expect this to be sweet. And that's beautiful.

716
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: The color is gorgeous.

717
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: Yes, the color is exactly where you would see want

718
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: a bourbon color uh to be.

719
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: It's got that that that hint of orange.

720
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: It's got that hint of maybe you won't even think

721
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: of it as amber.

722
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: It looks nice and deep but not too dark.

723
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem to have any slightly sticking to the glass.

724
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: We've got the glen Cairn glasses right, it's got the

725
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: foot bows out comes back in. You can really get

726
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: your nose in there, concentrate the flavors, move it up

727
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: to the light, kind of see what's going on. The

728
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: color is gorgeous. Fingers more that knows is sweet? He no, Now,

729
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: well seventy five percent corn I think told the story. Yes,

730
00:38:54,440 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: but that is and okay, hold on, I'm going deep in.

731
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm going you're gonna go deep bull nose in. He's

732
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: going no, full serena nose deep. He's not nose curious,

733
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: his nose deep into the Glenn Carre and Glenn Ross glass.

734
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is?

735
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: What if what would you believe me if I said, um,

736
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: it's sweet, but I can't put my finger on what

737
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: the sweetness is. There's a whole bunch of nothing like

738
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm not getting Do I have a cold?

739
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: Wow? Do you smell toast? Do I smell toast? All right? Um?

740
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: There it's a touch vanilla touch smoky, right, not so much,

741
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: not so much an oak, a touch vanilla touch, smokey.

742
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: No, you're getting that. I am No. I don't get

743
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: that at all.

744
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: Now, this this version of it, there are two versions

745
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: of Cooper's craft. This version of it, they talk about

746
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: this this the chisels and charred American white oak barrel.

747
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: So what they they state is that they they go

748
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: about in the barrel, chipping away at some of the wood,

749
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: chiseling into the wood so the juice will get more

750
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: into it and get more expression out of it. Honestly,

751
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you if that is

752
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: stick or not.

753
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: It's it's called a reverse ribbing process.

754
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: That is not what it's called. You made that part

755
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 1: up because I would have totally believed you. You said

756
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: it was such a thord rat my god, go with

757
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: the joke.

758
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: Take it to the end full, Andy Kaufman. Is there

759
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: a little bit of floral in here? Al Am? I

760
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: making things? Oh h no? Really is it me?

761
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: Okay, No, No, here's here's what's going on. And I

762
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: think this is happening with you two. First of all,

763
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: there's a sweetness there that I can't put my finger on.

764
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: And then I've got my whole nose in here looking

765
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: for things, and I'm not coming up with nothing. Nothing's

766
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: like really popping out. So it's like, okay, now, I'm

767
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: just like am I grasping its straws?

768
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 2: Right?

769
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: It's a generalized suite, and I do think a little

770
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: bit of smoky, but there's nothing I'll buy that.

771
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: There's nothing hitting and I'm and.

772
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: And I want it, don't get me wrong. I want

773
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: there to be flavors. I want there to be an expression,

774
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: but it's not. And I don't know if that's gonna

775
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: be bad or not. But enough with the with with

776
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: the sniff and fingers Willy, are you ready for this?

777
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: I've been ready for this all year as fingers Billoy

778
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: there doing what is known as the Kentucky chew, moving

779
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: the juice around the palate, getting a feel for it.

780
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: I am a believer in the.

781
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: Two SIPs concepts, the first sip to set the taste buds,

782
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: the second sip to really get an idea of the flavors.

783
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: The Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey Cooper's a craft coming in

784
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: at one hundred proof.

785
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: That's fifty percent alcohol by volume.

786
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: Okay, there's some orchard there, orchard fruits, yeah, some cinnamon

787
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 3: on the finish, barely a little bit of a sting

788
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: on the tongue. There is no real warmth going into

789
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: the chest. It does not play to me like it's

790
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: a hundred proof, plays higher, no lower.

791
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a little bit of warmth there. It's interesting.

792
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: It's not in my mind what you would consider that

793
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 3: traditional bourbon flavor profile that you would.

794
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: Expect traditional bourbon look, you're saying, not flavor profile. I'm

795
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: going in the Cooper's craft. This is the chisels and

796
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: charred barrel.

797
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 2: Reserve, one hundred proof. Here I go.

798
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen. He's doing what we

799
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: like to call the sagon I swish, the Memphis munch,

800
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: the Chattanooga chomp. And he's still chomping, chomping some more. Okay,

801
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: this whole thing is a mystery.

802
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: There's a sting on on the full tongue, even going

803
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: to the back of the tongue, heat center chest. That

804
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: is all orchard fruit is right on. That's pair. That's apple. Okay,

805
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: that's a freaking winner. And and you and I are

806
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: having very different relationships with this. That knows is half

807
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: non existent. That's an oak finish right there. I think

808
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I when I see a sting, you see a cinnamon.

809
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: But that fruit is there.

810
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: I agree on that.

811
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Oh, the dude, orchard is dead on, dead freaking on.

812
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Oh that's smooth that. I've had things that are that

813
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: are more expressive in bourbons. Maybe something a little more

814
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: age to it, or have you. I'd love to see

815
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: what this thing is with a little more age. I'm

816
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: assuming this is gonna be four year that's that's very

817
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: very nice. I'm curious to see what this is like

818
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: with a cube and and and we'll get to that

819
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: coming up.

820
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: Cooper's Craft, the one hundred proof.

821
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: So you're saying you're at least getting some oak, but

822
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: there's no like caramel. There's no vanilla.

823
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of you know, there's the the orchard,

824
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: as you discussed the apple on the pair, there's there's

825
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: that that heat on on the tongue. I think there

826
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: there is a little sweetness, there's and in the finish

827
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: a little lusciousness more comes out. So maybe that could

828
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: be considered a a caramel vanilla kind of kind of thing.

829
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it could be considered. Yeah, it's good.

830
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

831
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: I'm from the nose to the actual palate to the finish.

832
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: The palate in the finish well outshine the nose on

833
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: the Cooper's Craft.

834
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Now, is this in our liquor cabinet. We'll get into that.

835
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: Beef prices at an all time high. No, duh, it's

836
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: brutal out there. It's eat, drink, smoke on Tony Katz.

837
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: That is fingers full. I find it all at Eat Drinks,

838
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: Smokes Show.

839
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: Dot Com and it's all my fault. Bet prices, Yeah,

840
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 3: how so been eating a lot of beef lately. So

841
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: it's it's a supply and demand issue. Yes, and you've

842
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: been demanding too much of our supply a little bit

843
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: too much.

844
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: Uh, there's no doubt that everything has gone higher one

845
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Ground b prices surpassing six dollars a pound.

846
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: This is the first time it's been so high since

847
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: data collection in the nineteen eighties. Now, I will tell you,

848
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: I think that depends on the kind of ground beef

849
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: that you're getting, because I still think that there's plenty

850
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: of stuff out there under six dollars a pounds. I

851
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: would be surprised if the vast majority of eat, Drink

852
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: smoke Nation is spending six bucks a pounds on ground beef.

853
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: But brisket prices have gone up, ribbis strips, surloins.

854
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 2: All of this has gone up.

855
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: I have, unfortunately, with the move, I have not done

856
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: any grilling at all or any smoking.

857
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: I'm curious. You want me to come buy, You want

858
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: me to come buy and and grill something up for you.

859
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: I'll come on and grow someone up for I won't

860
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 2: be there. I won't be there. When won't you be there?

861
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to sell a house, Tony, right, what can

862
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: I do? Eat? Drink, smoke? Nation to put you in

863
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: a house today? So you're gonna be cleaning up the

864
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: old house, going back and forth.

865
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, between the new house and the old house. And uh,

866
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: so I'll come to the new household grill something up.

867
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 3: You'll come by, You'll have a couple of things.

868
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: You'll go. Is that what you're gonna do? What I'll do?

869
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: I'll do that for you.

870
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: What I was going to ask you is uh? You guys,

871
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 3: Oh listen, look at me. Don't I look like someone

872
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: who would love some grilled fish?

873
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: Right now? You look like a mahi mahi guy. I've

874
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: been saying that for years. Didn't they open up for

875
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: Wham in eighty seven? They did? It was an incredible,

876
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: incredible show.

877
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: But you've been to the market much more recently than

878
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: I have. Uh, And you've walked up to the butcher

879
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: and said, ShopKeep give me your best brisket.

880
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: I go to the market and then I go to

881
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: the hybrid ashery. Yes is what I do.

882
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: So you noticed a significant increase in brisket prices.

883
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: And now I'm only doing primes.

884
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: Or I'm doing like special kind of kind of the kosher,

885
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: which don't that.

886
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: Shouldn't even count in the pricing lexicon. I'm doing primes.

887
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: I'm doing you know, we'll get into a whole conversation

888
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: about farm stuff. I can't wait to make that announcement

889
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: for everybody at Eat, Drink, Smoke Nation. But the price

890
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: is there's no doubt the prices are up. This is

891
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: one hundred percent happening, and and the searching for deals

892
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: is a big one. So I brought up this story

893
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: to get into this story from the New York Post

894
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: about how your barbecue brush could kill you. Six better

895
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: ways to safely clean your grill. Now, I believe they

896
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: call that the clickie bait.

897
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Yes, that's true, But how how can it get like

898
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: in my sleep right when I'm not looking, if I

899
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 3: don't lock the door.

900
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: Again, it's sentient. The conversation is that if you're.

901
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 1: Utilizing a wire brush, the pieces of the brush, if

902
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: the brush is old, can break off and be on

903
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: the grill and then forgetting the food. I haven't heard

904
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: of many stories about that, but I do believe that

905
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: it is true.

906
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: I do believe that.

907
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: That can happen, and I'm a big believer in changing

908
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: out your stuff.

909
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: It's more expensive this way, I don't disagree.

910
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: But let's argue that there's a grilling season, that there

911
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: are two grilling seasons. There's the summer, whenever your summer

912
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: starts and ends, we can call that Memorial Data Labor Day,

913
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: and then there's the rest of the year. Now, this,

914
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: of course, can change depending on where you live in

915
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: the country.

916
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: So the people living in Orlando and listening on.

917
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: WDBO, right, they have a different grilling season.

918
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: Than other people.

919
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: You know, they have a different grilling season than those

920
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: of us in Indianapolis who listen on ninety three point

921
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: one FMWIBC. You might not be grilling so much in

922
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: the winter months. For the people listening to KFQD in Anchorage, Alaska,

923
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: you may only have one season.

924
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: I actually don't honestly, how can we haven't been invited

925
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: to Anchorage? We would He was showing Anchorage. You're gonna

926
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: get on a plane's Anchorage with me? Absolutely? Yeah? Can

927
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: you can?

928
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: You?

929
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: Can you uh grill caribou? I don't know? Do you

930
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: wanna find out? Yes?

931
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: We should find anchorage seriously, invite immediately. If not sooner, Uh,

932
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to get a sponsored. But we are

933
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: we we will come, We will come. We will smoke,

934
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: we will smoke meat, we will smoke cigars, we will

935
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: have smoky bourbon. Whatever it is you want to do,

936
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: it'll be fantastic. I I if you told me. And

937
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: you can also argue, well, doesn't it depend on how

938
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: much you're utilizing your grill? And the answer is no,

939
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: you're talking about weather, you're talking about other things. If

940
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: you're leaving these things outdoors once every four months every season,

941
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: depending on how often you grill, change it out.

942
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: And you say to me, are you insane?

943
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to buy a nine million

944
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: dollar wire brush. I think you shouldn't buy.

945
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: The cheap wire brushes.

946
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: I think you should buy something that looks like there

947
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: was some there was some thought into making it and

948
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: some value in it. You know, Oh, I got this

949
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: wire brush that name the discount store for five bucks.

950
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you should treat yourself better.

951
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Yes, it's more costly, but I do think there's a

952
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: value overall.

953
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 3: Well, the other thing, too, is and I know it's

954
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: not the easiest thing in the world to do. But

955
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: after you've taken your food off the grill, you clean

956
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: it immediately. Yeah, it's so much easier while the grill's

957
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: stock well it's hot.

958
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

959
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: Now I also do the other side of it. So

960
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: if I'm grilling, I get the grill up to temperature,

961
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: I clean it again, yes, and then I bring it

962
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: back and then I don't know if anybody else does this.

963
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: I oil the grates. I don't know if other people

964
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: do this or not. And for me, it's not about

965
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: whether the food's going to stick, but it's also a

966
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: little bit about getting anything off of there. And I

967
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: do it with olive oil. I mean, you could use avocado,

968
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: ol go real, use anything you want. I think I use.

969
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: I usually use olive oil and paper towel and I

970
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: kind of have soaked the paper towel and I wipe

971
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: everything down.

972
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: Am I the only person who does that? No? I

973
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 2: do it too, But I use castor oil.

974
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: Do you, Yes, Well, must make the food delicious when

975
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: it's coming back up, But I do. I think that

976
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: this is right. I think that you should be proactive

977
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: in changing. Now there are a whole bunch of tools

978
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: over that that are out there, pumice stones which work fantastic.

979
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they work so well, it's super weird.

980
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: You're like, this doesn't make sense. They work great. There

981
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: are people who will utilize balled up aluminum, yeah, because

982
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: that'll that'll work.

983
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: And then steam cleaning.

984
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: Legitimately, I think steam cleaning is an absolute winner.

985
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 2: The problem with steam cleaning is.

986
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that in between courses of things

987
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: you're putting on the grill exactly.

988
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: That's why you need a good wire brush.

989
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 3: I have a bristle free grill brush that I like

990
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 3: to use, and then every fourth time I use the grill,

991
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: I have it martinized.

992
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: Oh nice, we're trying to have a serious conversation. Well,

993
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 2: I will say saving lives. Seinfeld all as it was

994
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: a little Kevin meanie. It was a little bit Sidefeld. No,

995
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. He does a great Kevin Meani.

996
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care. My grill is all filthy.

997
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care. Care.

998
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: So good, it's so good.

999
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: If you get to see the video of that, you're welcome.

1000
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: You use a bristle free brush. Yes, it's not a

1001
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: pumice stone. No, you got to show me that.

1002
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: I will if I say it's in the story here

1003
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 3: from the New York Post, and we'll post it at

1004
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: Etrink Smoke show dot com.

1005
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke. It is your cigar bourbon foody extravaganza.

1006
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz.

1007
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: That is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers molloy.

1008
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: He's having a little trouble keeping a cigar lit.

1009
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: But I have not had any trouble at all talking

1010
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: about the Pinnacle Sublime here. This comes from a Pravada

1011
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Cigar Club through their LCA collection, and this is an

1012
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: Ecuadorian Habana six yot fifty Fingers. I know you've been

1013
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: having the issue, and it's because it's a hand rolled

1014
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: product and things can be different. This has been reversed

1015
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: on us before me. I'm well into the second third,

1016
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: about to get into the final third of this cigar.

1017
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: I am impressed. I think there's a good flavor here.

1018
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: There is a spice. It is not overwhelming. Is it

1019
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: coming from that wood? Is that actually a hey, I'm

1020
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure, but it is a nice presentation.

1021
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: It has changed too much in its flavor profile, but

1022
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: it's been a nice flavor profile all the way along

1023
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: the line. And for fourteen dollars a stick, yeah, I

1024
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: think you can get ninety minutes out of the smoke

1025
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: six by fifty at again, at fourteen dollars a stick.

1026
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm a yes. I'm a yes to this.

1027
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: I'm a yes too based on your experience. When I've

1028
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 3: been able to keep this lit, I've enjoyed it. I mean,

1029
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: right now, i've got that wood note that we were

1030
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 3: talking about, that spice is still there. I'm fortunate. Unfortunately,

1031
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: now I've got a little bit of an ammonia. Oh

1032
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: too hot, too hot, because I'm trying to, you know,

1033
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 3: keep this lit, and so I'm trying to work my

1034
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: way through that. But like you said, ninety minute smoke,

1035
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: it's well constructed, a nice hand feel, a little light,

1036
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: but it's still a nice hand feel. And in this economy,

1037
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: fourteen dollars a stick for a good smoking experience that

1038
00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 3: will get you ninety minutes.

1039
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it can happen. Cigar can have troubles. It's

1040
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: why you gotta try it again now, if you've got to.

1041
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: If you tried the same cigar a couple of times,

1042
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: that has troubles. Okay, that's a cigar that's out of

1043
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: your life. But I'm I'm absolutely a.

1044
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Yes on this. Now.

1045
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: As for this bourbon, this has so far been gloriously surprising.

1046
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: The Cooper's Craft Kentucky straight Bourbon whiskey, one hundred proof,

1047
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: four years aged. This has been It was really a

1048
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: nose that was non existent. And then that that palette

1049
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: was absolutely orchard. It was pair, it was apple, you argued, cinnamon,

1050
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: there was a touch of luscies.

1051
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: I think it had a I think.

1052
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: It had a real oak finish in there. They referred

1053
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: to it as charred and chizzled because they chiseled parts

1054
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: of the barrel to allow the juice to get more

1055
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: into the barrel. Does that work, doesn't make a difference.

1056
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: It could just be marketing, whatever the case may be.

1057
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: I thought it was very very well done. But we

1058
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: answer the follow up is how about on the cube?

1059
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: So I've got a cube by mine.

1060
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: I kept it in the.

1061
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: Glenn Caring glass. You added a little bit of water

1062
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: to yours? Might water droplet? You you you don't bring

1063
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: your drop bring your droppers. People have brought you droppers,

1064
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: custom droppers. I have them packed in a box in

1065
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: the move, unpack them. I'm not even gonna have this

1066
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: conversation with you.

1067
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: Let's not do it.

1068
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: Uh So what ice will do, What water will do

1069
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: is water brings down proof. That's what brings down proof.

1070
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: It'll also open up the bourbon. Some flavors more muted,

1071
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: some flavorsill be more pronounced. I'm going in with mine,

1072
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: the Cooper's craft. This is what they call one hundred proof.

1073
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: This is their bower reserve.

1074
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 3: I mean he's going in, ladies and gentlemen for round two,

1075
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 3: this time on the big rock. He's doing the sag

1076
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: and a swish and he's putting it down.

1077
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: No, oh, son of a gun, the heat is still there.

1078
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: Really hits back a tongue, back of throat. It was

1079
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: a sweeter piece. Uh that what was the full really

1080
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: coating of the tongue with the sting.

1081
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: Uh is well muted, but you still get a little

1082
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: bit of it. And it's still the oak finish. Boo boo.

1083
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: All right, that's all right. You talk me into it.

1084
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: You added a little bit of water, just a little

1085
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Speaker 1: bit of water to open it up. See if you know,

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, you got to decide which way you like it.

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Speaker 1: Try it all the way. That's the only way. You

1088
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: know which way it's gonna work for you?

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Speaker 2: Of what say you, Fingers moloy, boy, that sting is

1090
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: almost completely gone, just from the water.

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00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everything else is there?

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00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: It actually is.

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00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: You know, they took a little bit of that orchard

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00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: away from me, and a little bit of the cinnamon.

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00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: Uh listen, I don't know if if I missed it,

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Speaker 3: if you told me what this price point? Oh no,

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00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: I've been holding that. Okay, very impressed, fingers maloy. This

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00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: is there's a cinnamon the.

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00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Cooper's Craft Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey, a Brown and Foreman

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00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: one hundred proof. Is this in your liquor cabinet for

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00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: thirty two dollars and ninety nine cents a bottle?

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00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, there's not even a question.

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00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: That unbelievably impressive for thirty two. But by the way,

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00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: the heat is now full throat with the cube. That

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00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: wasn't true about the meat, So that's an interesting development.

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Speaker 2: For thirty three. But thirty three.

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Speaker 1: Dollars in money economy, Darling sweetness, baby cakes, booboo kitty damn.

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Speaker 2: I think we found a very good pairing here today.

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Speaker 1: Holy Oh, by the way, it's a fine pairing. It's

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: a fine pairing with the Pinnacle Sublime cigar. Yeah, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that is a that is a go by today. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. At the end of the year.

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00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: You know, we bring you our top three bourbons, in

1114
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: our top three cigars. Most people do a top ten list,

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00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: but those people have more time than us. This price

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01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: to flavor, yes, unbelievably impressive. Offers incredible value, quick damn

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: very impressive. The Cooper's craft right there, it's time figures

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Speaker 1: molloy for News of the week.

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Speaker 3: Oh, come on, well, I mean this one hit hard. Oh,

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01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: this dominated the news cycle this week. Ozzy Osbourne passed

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01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: away at the age of seventy six, just a few

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01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: weeks after his farewell performance, and.

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Speaker 2: We were just discussing it last week.

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01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: I had not heard about this performance that raised near

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01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars for charity and all the bands

1126
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: that were in it, and he sang for forty minutes,

1127
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: He sang with Black Sabbath, he did his own stuff,

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Speaker 1: and he was in this. You know, they wheeled him

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01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: out on this throne as you discussed it. The Parkinson's

1130
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: I believe it is, and then all of a sudden,

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01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: this story breaks that he dies at seventy six, and

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01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: you're like, that is in insane that that timing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I listen.

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Speaker 3: You can't get into the psychology of everything, you know,

1135
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 3: knowing it was his last performance, him knowing it was

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: his last performance, if that played a part into especial

1137
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 3: duil to live, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's crude.

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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of there's something remarkably interesting about

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: that and what happens, because I think it's true in

1141
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, not just for someone who performs,

1142
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: but there are moments and you make it to the

1143
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: moment like, Okay, I did what I set out to do.

1144
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: I knew I was having problems, and it.

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01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: Was I did that. I don't know if that's the

1146
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: case here. Part of you kinda maybe we want to

1147
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: think it. Part of you would be like, well, that's

1148
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: presumptuous to think it, but.

1149
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 3: But that's the way to go out. I mean, if

1150
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 3: you have this wonderful last performance. He was able to

1151
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 3: experience that at in the last few days, seeing people

1152
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: share all the amazing clips from either performances live on

1153
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 3: stage or from the reality TV show that he did

1154
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: and even some of the I think it was a

1155
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: super Bowl commercial for PEPSI twist. It's just some just

1156
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 3: some funny good stuff and cross culture, cross genre. Just

1157
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 3: a name that a name that transcends.

1158
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Speaker 2: He did it. He did the thing. That's a hard

1159
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: thing to do, and he did it.

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Speaker 3: And he's always been there, and you know what kind

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Speaker 3: of impact he had just based on individuals that just

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Speaker 3: one name. Dozzie, you know, created created heavy metal. I

1163
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: mean really credit Black Sabbath, but created heavy metal. Yeah,

1164
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 3: And this didn't hit me quite as hard as Norm

1165
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: McDonald's death did. But I mean, when when you between

1166
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: the shock and then thinking back growing up, how much

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: of Black Sabbath and Ozzie's solo career was a soundtrack

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01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 3: to many Gen xer's life and of course people who

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Speaker 3: are older than that. It really really was a blow

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Speaker 3: to many people in the gen X. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you were a huge Assi fan or no, no.

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Speaker 2: I never. It wasn't how I moved or operated.

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01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: But to be aware of and to recognize and you know,

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Speaker 1: respect the game. Yeah, absolutely incredible stuff and just that

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Speaker 1: we just for me, we were just talking about this

1176
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: so weird, and then this just horrific seventy six A

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Speaker 1: life Interestingly Lived.

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Speaker 2: Hot Dogs. Yep.

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Speaker 3: We have debated this several times on Eat Drink Smoke.

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Speaker 3: It's ketch up, Okayanna hot dogs, Fine, it's terrible. The

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01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 3: other thing too. Do you do you grill a hot

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01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 3: dog or do you boil a hot dog?

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01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't care. You can do both. I want

1184
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: you to live your hot dog life the way you.

1185
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: See fit one expert says you should do both with

1186
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: the same wiener. It's eat rink Smoke. I'm Fingers molloy.

1187
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: He's Tony Katz. Remember you can find Eat Rink Smoke

1188
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 3: in podcast platform on your favorite podcast platform. And also

1189
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: the videos are now. You're going to see them more

1190
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: on YouTube and rumble. Check those out on your favorite

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01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: video platform or on our website, Eat drinksmokeshow dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's this so ea hrink smokeshow dot com? Yes, exactly,

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: Eatdrink smokeshow dot com. I am a grilled hot dog guy. Yes,

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01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: I am not one who likes to boil hot dogs.

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: Even when the grill is not available, I will fry

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Speaker 1: them on in a frying pan or I'll use the

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Speaker 1: air fryer, which makes a fantastic dog.

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Speaker 2: A grillam, I'll boil them all flat, top them. Don't care.

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Speaker 2: Microwave if I have to. If I have to.

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Speaker 3: Here's what's interesting about the microwave.

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Speaker 2: It is the world of tomorrow today.

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01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 3: Having said that the microwave hot dog has a weird

1203
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: texture to it, I get that. It's like you bite

1204
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 3: into it, You're like, Okay, what what's just happened here? Yeah,

1205
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 3: it's like the inside is about ready to explode the

1206
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: outside is is this asbestos?

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01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: It's crungey, it's chewy something, something is off, something is askew.

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01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: But I need cooked meat in thirty seconds, boom done. Yeah.

1209
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: And I know I'm saying this and people are screaming

1210
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 2: right now you eat gas station hot dogs. We understand

1211
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: you're weird atpicured dilemma.

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01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,479
Speaker 3: So YEAHOO had this story in their lifestyle section, which

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01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 3: is where I go for all my hot dog news,

1214
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: and uh, they posed this option and I found it

1215
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 3: interesting to the point where I may have to try this.

1216
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: An expert suggests that you boil your hot dog first

1217
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 3: and then finish it on the grill, and the theory

1218
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: behind This is that it keeps your your hot dog

1219
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: much more moist. It won't dry your hot dog out.

1220
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: The argument is, there's nothing worse than a dried out

1221
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 3: hot dog.

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01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I know. The last time you've had a dried

1223
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 2: out hot dog? Well, I know how to cook them, probably,

1224
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: And that's my point.

1225
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: When's the last time anybody had a dried out hot dog?

1226
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: Unless you were grilling a bunch of hot dogs, it

1227
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: was there in a pan, you left it in some

1228
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: level of chafing dish, and it's the last hot dog

1229
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the night, and you know you're

1230
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna eat it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the chafing dish reference. I'm very excited

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: about that. But you're right. I mean, if it's if

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01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: it's on the if it's in the little tin pan.

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Speaker 3: On the grill, and you're keeping them warm for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Even if you get a dried out hot dog, chances

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Speaker 3: are you're going to pile the mustard and the onion

1237
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: on top of it, and it's it's it's fine, especially

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01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 3: if you got the grill flavor to it.

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01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: I will say this, the very con concept of parboiling,

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01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean, does have benefits. I don't know about you,

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01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: but we make We don't make our own French fries.

1242
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: We make potato wedges. We do smashed potato kind of things. Basically,

1243
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: you take like you think of it as a fingerling potato,

1244
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: the smaller potatoes, and you boil those and then you

1245
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: let them cool and then you smash them, and then

1246
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: you put everything bagel seasoning on it, like from an

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01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: every bagel, and you can put cheese as well, and

1248
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: then bake them off so they got crispy, unbelievable.

1249
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: Fan fantastic, so good.

1250
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: A drizzle of boil you could probably use butter and

1251
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: then the everything bagel seasoning and then.

1252
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: Cheese spectacular and you don't have to use cheese.

1253
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: Good.

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: Try that so good.

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 3: I haven't made brats in a while too, and I

1256
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 3: used to like cooking them in beer and then finishing

1257
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 3: them on the grill. Yeah, and then have onions and

1258
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 3: peppers cooking in the beer as well, and then throwing the.

1259
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: But to parboil the potato, cut it cool, let it.

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: We'll cut it into wedges and then season it and

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01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: then and then bake it off, broiled it off or

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01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: grill it.

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01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 3: It just makes everything move faster. And I think you

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: get a better product. Pardon my ignorance. When it comes

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Speaker 3: to cooking, is that called blanching? Blanching is a quicker process.

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01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: Blanching is kind of in and out of the dunk. Okay, yeah,

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 3: more more that style.

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01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: But but look at you.

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01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 1: Someone someone's been reading their Gordon ramsay that that's blanching.

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01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 2: I mean, should we get the official definition? Oh? Can we?

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01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

1273
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have this thing called the interwebs.

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 3: Oh wow, are you gonna get on copy serve to No,

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01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 3: I'm just I.

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01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: Just typed in what is blanching? And I'm just hoping

1277
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: it doesn't take me to urban dictionary A golden girls.

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: Um uh, usually vegetables or fruits briefly scalded and boiling water,

1279
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,759
Speaker 1: then quickly cooled in ice water, preserving color, flavor, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Oh so that's what that's what that is. Thank you.

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01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 3: You can't say you don't learn something new every time

1282
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 3: you listen to eat, drink, smoke.

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 2: That's the truth. That's true. So interesting about doing it

1284
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: with the hot dog? I would try it? Should we

1285
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: make all?

1286
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: We already did one hot dog video where we Oh,

1287
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 3: you're right, there's a law that you can only make

1288
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: one hot dog. I think you can only make one

1289
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 3: a year. Well, I don't believe that pass. But that

1290
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 3: was last year. We did the Great hot dog War

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Speaker 3: between the finest hot dog in America, Hebrew National Kogels.

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 3: And you didn't use Hebrew National, you used Costco hot Dogs.

1293
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: I used the Costco she did. Well. I live in

1294
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Speaker 2: Indiana and it was as close as I could go.

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Speaker 3: You know who doesn't worry about how to cook hot dogs?

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Speaker 3: It's the guys over at south Park. Because Matt and

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Speaker 3: Trey a hot dog conversation though, uh well they just

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Speaker 3: have people. They have a hot dog guy. Especially after

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Speaker 3: the latest deal. According to reports from the Los Angeles Times,

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Speaker 3: Trey Park and Matt Stone signed a five year agreement

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Speaker 3: with Paramount for their streaming rights to South Park. The

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Speaker 3: deal's worth one point five billion dollars. That's billion with

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Speaker 3: a B.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this once and that's it. Paramount got

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Speaker 2: a deal. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What they have created over nearly thirty years is unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: maybe only surpassed by the Simpsons. Maybe what they have

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Speaker 1: done is beyond belief. The world they've created, and I

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Speaker 1: think one point five billion is actually cheap.

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Speaker 2: Am I crazy. No, you're not.

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Speaker 3: I would argue, also, holy crap over a career, and

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Speaker 3: I listen, this is obviously very much subjective when you

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Speaker 3: talk about comedy. To me, the quality of comedy over

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Speaker 3: the length of the entire catalog, I believe South Park

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Speaker 3: has has proven to have much more legs and the

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Speaker 3: quality of has not suffered through time. Where I've tried

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Speaker 3: to watch episodes of The Simpsons in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of years, and it's it's not the.

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Speaker 2: Same Simpsons are broadcast.

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Speaker 1: They were in a different world with the language they

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Speaker 1: could use and everything else. I don't think you can

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Speaker 1: make the apples to apples comparison.

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Speaker 2: I just did. Yeah, but I think you're very wrong.

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Speaker 2: You think I'm being unfair.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's they're not comparable pieces in that regard.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of cultural impact, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I deny the Simpsons cultural impact.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not denying. I'm I'm more partial to south Park.

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Speaker 3: South Park makes me laugh more, for sure, But I

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Speaker 3: also feel like later seasons of South Park have the

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Speaker 3: quality of comedy has has been just as good. It

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Speaker 3: has not taken There's not been a drop off where

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe I'm again it's subjective, but uh,

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Speaker 3: I can go back and the Simpsons is and and

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Speaker 3: South Parker two. Uh, series where you have no problems

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Speaker 3: revisiting an episode that you've seen ten times. And so

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Speaker 3: I mean this may be a bargain one and a

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Speaker 3: half billion five years.

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Speaker 2: So it's three hundred million a year. I did the

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Speaker 1: And then again, if you're those guys, are you like

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Speaker 2: It's amazing? It really is incredible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how what that? What they've created, how they

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