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Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. I think some people believe.

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Speaker 2: That I think President Trump is not capable of handling

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Speaker 2: the economy.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he's more than capable of handling these things.

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Speaker 3: I've seen him do it.

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Speaker 2: I think that the push on tariffs is misguided. It's

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Speaker 2: okay to say while grown up here Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, so good to be with. You find everything

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Speaker 2: at Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 3: The numbers go along with things I have been saying.

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Speaker 2: We've been saying here that Americans don't think the economy

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Speaker 3: I would argue, as I have.

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Speaker 2: That Americans think that there's more opportunity with Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: Than Joe Biden than Kamala Harris. Of this, there is

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Speaker 2: But you have not seen enough prices go down in

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Speaker 2: enough places, and as I have argued, you have not

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Speaker 2: heard the argument be made with efficacy, with strength, with

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Speaker 2: repeated vision and repeated measure, that we are in the

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Speaker 2: fight right now and we will get there if we

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Speaker 2: do X, we do Y, we do Z, and we

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Speaker 2: need everybody to be on board with this.

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Speaker 3: Bring people into the fight.

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Speaker 2: Make them feel they're a part of it, and you

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Speaker 2: will get a better result. Harry Inton is the guy

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Speaker 2: who does the numbers over there at CNN, And I

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Speaker 2: know what you're gonna say, Tony at CNN, except Harry

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Speaker 2: we've discussed his stuff before. He's solid on it. He

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Speaker 4: President Trump is trying to sell the American folks aren't buying,

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Speaker 4: and we can see it pretty simply.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 5: Take a look here.

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Speaker 4: This is consumer sentiment, the current conditions. Consumer sentiment can

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Speaker 4: be the current conditions or it can be a future expectations.

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Speaker 4: We're looking at current conditions. And get this. According to

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Speaker 4: the University of Michigan, we are dealing with the worst ever,

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Speaker 4: the worst ever view of current conditions, dating all the

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Speaker 5: And fifty one.

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Speaker 4: This is record breaking in the way you don't want

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Speaker 5: And get this, Kate. It is down thirty percent.

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Speaker 4: Consumer sentiment of current conditions down thirty percent from January

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Speaker 2: Now, let me share at least a mistake that Harry

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Speaker 2: Anton made. Whatever Donald Trump is selling, the American people

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Speaker 2: aren't buying. I put forth to you, there hasn't been

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Speaker 2: a sales job, and a sales job is not ooh,

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Speaker 2: look at this shiny object over here, right, Obamacare was

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Speaker 2: a sales job. I'm talking about honestly addressing what we're

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Speaker 3: And yes it will take time.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you promised prices would get better overnight and

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Speaker 2: they didn't get better overnight.

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Speaker 3: Well you have to live with that. But you can

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Speaker 2: Here's the plan, here's the strategy, here's the work we're doing,

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Speaker 3: You can do that if you choose my argument.

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Speaker 2: I said this the other day, I have said this

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Speaker 2: over the last year that Trump and Bes and Darnen

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Speaker 2: job consistently. If at all, are some things better? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Is everything better? Absolutely not? And if you want to

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Speaker 2: tell me that insurance costs are down, why is it

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Speaker 2: They view it as an overall conversation regarding insurance and

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Speaker 3: In the big chair. And he is.

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Speaker 2: There's no question, there's no debate, there's no doubt. Why

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Speaker 3: Coming it is. It's great, you just don't understand.

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Speaker 2: You just won't admit it, or you call somebody like

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Speaker 2: me a stock Republican Steve Bannon. I'm honestly addressing the situation.

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Speaker 2: No lives from this guy, No bueno.

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Speaker 6: That is significant in something you can't ignore. You shouldn't

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Speaker 5: To your pail.

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Speaker 6: How but they do not feel good about the economy.

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Speaker 6: How much are they blaming this on President Trump?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be one thing that President trum could

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Speaker 5: But take a look here Trump blamed.

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Speaker 4: Trump's policies have worsened economic conditions in America.

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Speaker 3: Look at this.

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Speaker 5: We're dealing with a super majority here.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about more than three in five Americans, sixty one.

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Speaker 4: Worsened economic conditions in America. How about worsened your own finances. Again,

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Speaker 4: we're dealing with a majority here. Fifty one percent of

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Speaker 5: Worsened your own finances.

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Speaker 4: This is double trouble for the President of the United States.

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Speaker 3: Allow me to say, for the record, I don't buy

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Speaker 3: the numbers. Tony.

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Speaker 2: You just said that Trump needs to do more about

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely true. You're gonna tell me.

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Speaker 2: You're going to tell me that things right now for

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Speaker 2: the average American are magically worse by magnitude.

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Speaker 3: Than during Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Nah, you're gonna tell me that people are gonna respond

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Speaker 3: When Joe Biden was allegedly the president. Yeah, I'll believe that.

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Speaker 3: This part of the data, I believe changes.

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Speaker 2: If President Trump and his team were more focused on

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Speaker 2: sharing a vision and sharing successes. It isn't about lying

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Speaker 2: to Americans. I don't agree with this. I don't favor this. Rather,

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Speaker 2: You're hearing I said this on Sean Spicer's show last week.

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Speaker 2: really think that the economic condition is worsened? Now, there's

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Speaker 2: a difference between Wall Street and Midwest main Street, and

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Speaker 3: But that's just it where is the addressing of it.

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Speaker 2: Don't just say, oh, mister President, your policies have done

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to hear that.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was President Trump who said, you know,

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Speaker 2: the stadium in Washington, the new stadium in Washington for

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Speaker 3: People want to.

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Speaker 2: whether you have a football stadium named after you or not.

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Speaker 2: I am sorry that nobody on your team is willing

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Speaker 2: they feel that things aren't working for them. You should

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Speaker 2: address that you're more capable than this and you're not

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Speaker 3: I am a huge.

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Speaker 2: Believer that the man is remarkably, remarkably capable.

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Speaker 3: Trump can do two things at once. And Trump has

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is true to engage in empathetic voice. I

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Speaker 3: But his entire.

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Speaker 2: Capability comes from being able to connect with everyday Americans.

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Speaker 3: He can do it.

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Speaker 3: Neither here nor there.

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Speaker 2: a guy. He can do this, will go out and

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Speaker 2: You're not selling the story and you're not paying enough

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Speaker 2: You've got these numbers from Harryenton, I don't buy into every.

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Speaker 4: When you're dealing with consumer sentiment of current conditions being

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Speaker 4: you're dealing with the supermajority who say that your policies

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Speaker 6: That is I karumba no good, yeah, no matter what,

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Speaker 6: you would prefer to not have this, No, not to kate.

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Speaker 5: How about this? This is no outlier, Kate.

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Speaker 4: This is no outlier because look at Marquette University, their

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Speaker 3: II They Ah, look at that. He wanted me to

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Speaker 3: feel at home. What he doesn't tell you.

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Speaker 2: Is that these numbers can sway quickly and aggressively. This

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Speaker 2: Trump's great on the economy.

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Speaker 3: It is indeed that easy. These are the people.

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Speaker 2: These are the same people who take a look at

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Speaker 3: Are some things better? Yes? Is the messaging good coming

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 9: Today we remember with overwhelming gratitude the more than one

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Speaker 2: President Trump speaking on this Veterans Day, of course, originally

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Speaker 2: Armistice Day, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 3: Then you have, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, as we've been talking about the shutdown, this was

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Speaker 10: Governor Gavin Newsom called it pathetic and a surrender pole.

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Speaker 10: As you mentioned, Democrats have big wins last week, so

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Speaker 3: Why give in now?

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Speaker 10: Why bring a butter knife to a gunfight?

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Speaker 7: Are you willing to gamble that the DLP will negotiate

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Speaker 7: if that gamble is wrong, half a million Pennsylvanians that

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Speaker 10: Healthcare cost will skyrocket if you are wrong.

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Speaker 7: And I believe you are wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now before anything, you may find Sunny Hostin to be

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Speaker 3: To starve children. It's just that easy. It's their words

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Speaker 11: And I'll remember what really needs to win, to win,

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Speaker 11: I'm trying to remind people.

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Speaker 6: That kind of.

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Speaker 2: Every time you hear him, he sounds like a guy

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: He's not a conservative, but he certainly understands what's happening,

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Speaker 2: and that won't be tolerated by the sunny host in

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats.

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Speaker 2: Today, President Trump looking to the Supreme Court saying, Hey,

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Speaker 2: this situation with the eging Carol, why don't you toss

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Speaker 3: Won't you? Tony Katz? Tony Katz today, Great to be

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Speaker 2: Ejing Caroll, the writer President Trump was held liable for

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Speaker 3: Do I think that Egene Carroll is a good actor?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't believe that she is. That's my take.

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Speaker 3: Stars.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris believes that Democratic Party is filled with stars.

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Speaker 12: We have so many stars in our party. There are

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Speaker 3: Hey, look at all the stars. We have so many stars.

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Speaker 3: Tell me you didn't say this after Homecomings.

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Speaker 12: We have so many stars in our party. There are

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Speaker 3: That's actually a quote of me after my third Grateful

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Speaker 2: I think the story today is about ken Burns, the

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Speaker 3: But the work done in.

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Speaker 3: About NPR and PBS.

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Speaker 2: Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and he engages here a lie. Now,

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Speaker 13: This is what ken Burns had to say. It's a

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Speaker 8: Nobody will be covering the school board or the city

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Speaker 3: See, no, they won't because they have phones.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what ken Burns is saying here,

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Speaker 2: except I know what he's saying here, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think most people picked it up. Those people on the

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Speaker 2: coast didn't quite pick up what was being said.

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Speaker 3: There is no news desert that exists.

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Speaker 2: Right now in the United States of America. If you

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Speaker 2: have a signal, if you have broadband, you have news

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Speaker 2: and no public anything, whether it's NBR, PBS has ever

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Speaker 2: filled that void.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't able to.

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Speaker 2: Get anything from my broadcast station or from my radio stations.

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, NBR and PBS were there, said no one ever,

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Speaker 2: except people who think that NBR and PBS should continue

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Speaker 2: to get some level of funding. Let's go back and

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Speaker 2: listen again and see if you can catch what it

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Speaker 2: is that I'm hearing.

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Speaker 3: It's a big deal.

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Speaker 8: They killed the the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Incredibly short sighted.

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Speaker 8: It'll hurt mostly rural communities. Maybe that's their invention.

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Speaker 3: They'll be news deserts.

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Speaker 8: Nobody will be covering the school board or the city

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Speaker 8: council meeting. They'll miss not only the children's and primetime programming,

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Speaker 8: but they'll miss you know, homeland security stuff, continuing education, classrooms,

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Speaker 8: of the air warning stuff that comes from the PBS

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Speaker 8: signal mostly rural.

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Speaker 2: Why would mostly rural be affected by PBS not being there?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Oh, because here in the Midwest were rubes. I

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Speaker 3: got it, got that isn't what you meant.

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Speaker 2: Well, then why don't we answer the question, what do

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Speaker 2: you mean by rural? You mean all those farmers, those

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Speaker 2: farmers who can understand the pH levels of soil, to

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Speaker 2: figure out when they should be planting and how they

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Speaker 2: should be rotating crops, how they're able to engage all

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Speaker 2: of those lease deals in all of those contracts for

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Speaker 2: major equipment, and how to manage that equipment, never mind

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Speaker 2: care for that equipment. All of a sudden, when it

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Speaker 2: comes to news, they look at their TV and they

486
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: just hit it with the rock and say, why won't

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Speaker 2: TV turned on? Is this your argument, ken Burns, You

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Speaker 2: elitist snobs son of a You know what, they.

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Speaker 3: Can't get news without PBS.

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Speaker 2: You think they sit around the radio at night and

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Speaker 2: light their candles because they're not smart enough to have electricity.

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Speaker 3: Golly jeepers know and they listen to NPR.

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Speaker 2: And say, thank goodness, they're here to save us and

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Speaker 2: give us all the information they decided was except thank goodness.

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Speaker 2: The same NPR that said they wouldn't report on hunter

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Speaker 2: Byden's laptop because we don't report.

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Speaker 3: On things like that. If there were people in the

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Speaker 3: Midwest only getting their news.

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Speaker 2: From NPR, we would have a name for those people

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Speaker 2: in the Midwest. We would call them schmucks. What a

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00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: gross thing to say, ken Burns. It is clear with

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Speaker 2: the argument that he's making. These people don't have access

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Speaker 2: to news. They've never been on Sixth Avenue in New York.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's sixth Avenue, not Avenue of the Americas.

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Speaker 3: Enough with that crap.

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Speaker 8: Already we've been hit, but we'll recover. I'm worried about

507
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Speaker 8: somebody who's coming up right now that has a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of talent.

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Speaker 8: It's not going to get a grant to do that.

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Speaker 8: The American experience has been put consciously on hiatus for

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Speaker 8: a while.

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Speaker 3: It will be revitalized.

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Speaker 8: It's got an incredible back catalog that can help remind

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Speaker 8: us about what it is. It's not all doom and gloom.

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Speaker 8: PBS has not been cut. It will take a hit.

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Speaker 8: It's had to lay off lots of people at a

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Speaker 8: national level as a kind of protective measure to try

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Speaker 8: to get leaner as we face.

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Speaker 2: If PBS is worthy, PBS will get sponsors or they'll

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Speaker 2: get supporters. Let them compete, Let NPR compete. But no,

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Speaker 2: these organizations are not necessary. These organizations that get public

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Speaker 2: funding and then don't actually report news, who have an

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Speaker 2: ideological basis. No, because if there's government funding for people

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Speaker 2: in radio to get high I don't get any government funding.

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Speaker 2: I have sponsors. You can get a sponsor. Go get

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Speaker 2: a sponsor, and maybe the sponsor is some state program,

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Speaker 2: and maybe the sponsor is some local dry cleaner.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 2: The idea that people in the Midwest, in rural America

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Speaker 2: are going to have news deserts now. You don't think

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Speaker 2: they have a phone. Are they still doing math utilizing

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Speaker 2: their avocus? When they start their car, do they turn

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Speaker 2: the key or do they crank it up like it's

534
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: the old Victrola?

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Speaker 3: And oh are they sophisticated enough to have the old victrola?

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Speaker 3: Good gosh.

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Speaker 2: I do not know if other people caught that, but

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Speaker 2: that was the first thing that hit me. How glaring,

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Speaker 2: how absolutely hateful and elitist.

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Speaker 9: This is.

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Speaker 3: Bless your heart, there, Ken Burns, bless your heart.

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Speaker 14: I'm Tony katz in me for making a decision. Would

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Speaker 14: be the first one to criticize me for not taking

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Speaker 14: action and not looking at data. So I again, I'm

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Speaker 14: trying to do what's right by way of the marriag

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Speaker 14: can people and keep people safe. And just to make

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Speaker 14: one last data point on that, because I get passionate.

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Speaker 14: When you asked me about the data and what other

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Speaker 14: people might say about it is we were at.

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Speaker 3: Four percent, right.

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Speaker 14: We reduced capacity by four percent as of last Saturday,

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Speaker 14: we saw the cancelations above four percent, right, So I

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Speaker 14: didn't I didn't go higher than what the cancelations were.

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Speaker 3: I was actually below the cancelations.

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Speaker 14: The cancelations were even worse than what I had put

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Speaker 14: into the system.

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Speaker 2: Secretary Sean Duffie, secret Chary of Transportation, speaking in Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: about the flight delays and the government shutdown.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today. Let's take

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Speaker 3: it back to the Secretary Duffie.

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Speaker 14: Enage through this crisis, hopefully get the government open and

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Speaker 14: hopefully get controllers back in towers and getting in America

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Speaker 14: back in the skies and plans safely.

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Speaker 3: So with that, listen, thank you guys for coming out.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. And by the way, we have a

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Speaker 3: great airport. This airport is fantastic.

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Speaker 14: People who come through here, it's like it's so easy

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Speaker 14: to get in and out of the airport. Not only that,

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Speaker 14: like you can get cheese curds inside, which is great.

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Speaker 14: And then they say, everyone's son.

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Speaker 2: Right, listen, we're gonna be all pro Wisconsin. I think

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Speaker 2: that's adorable, but isn't what I came for, sir. You

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Speaker 2: be pro Wisconsin cheese, curds and broughts are fantastic. What

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Speaker 2: isn't fantastic is where we are with this. We're in

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Speaker 2: a bad.

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Speaker 3: Spot with.

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Speaker 2: Time not on our side. If we're talking about gearing

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Speaker 2: up for Thanksgiving. I don't think it helps to threaten

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Speaker 2: the air traffic controllers. President Trump saying he's gonna doct

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Speaker 2: the pay of appsent air traffic controllers. All air traffic

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Speaker 2: controllers must get back to work now. Anyone who does

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Speaker 2: it will be substantially docked. He then said he would

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Speaker 2: give air traffic controllers who stayed on the job a

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Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars bonus. And then he was on with

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Speaker 2: lor Ingram on Fox last night and she said where

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Speaker 2: you can get the money from? And he said, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'll get it for in some place. The

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Speaker 2: man is a the man is a treat. I do

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Speaker 2: not want to tell the people who stepped off the

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Speaker 2: job because I don't know they needed the money. Don't

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Speaker 2: scream at them, don't yell at them. I think, just

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Speaker 2: like in the economic conversation, how about being there beforehand,

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Speaker 2: saying hey, we need you here. I know this shutdown stinks.

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Speaker 2: I know what Democrats are doing. I think it's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I think it's evil. I think it's awful. We need

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Speaker 2: you right here doing this work, quite literally, saving lives,

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Speaker 2: making America work. We need you, we appreciate you. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they would have been seen as weakness. I

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Speaker 2: think that would have been leadership and valuable. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to dock the people who left, and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give bonuses to others.

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Speaker 3: I think that is.

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Speaker 2: A recipe for having some air traffic controllers saying, well,

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Speaker 2: screw this and screw you, I'm gone, goodbye. Let's not

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Speaker 2: make it tougher. Don't make it tougher. What happens if

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Speaker 2: they don't get the government set up and back up

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Speaker 2: and running Friday and it takes till Monday. Do air

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Speaker 2: traffic controllers get back in the saddle and everything's working

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Speaker 2: again by Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 3: This is no one's answering that question.

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Speaker 2: I have got serious questions about whether that can happen.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today,