1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: This is track Side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five The fan. 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: As he exits the Lamos check for the final time. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 2: Belief Maight. Nasa knows this feeling. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: He knows what to do and he has been the 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: team lead up no matter who his teammates are. 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: Beliep By Naza knows what to do and he's gonna 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: do it. In an anniversary year for the Captain Rochapenski 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: for Late Fight Nasa and Porschapenski Motorsport victorious at the 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: Rolex twenty four three in a row, Yes, indeed. And 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: now we are off and rolling in twenty twenty six 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: with the Rolex twenty four rapped, and it really feels 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: like race season upon us because Indy car drivers are 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: gathered here in Indianapolis. So let's share what we've learned. 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome track Side ninety three five, one oh 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: seven five the fan in Indianapolis, landon Koons is in 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: our studio, Kevin Lee, Kurk Cavin, you heard from the 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: NBC call of a good start to the year for 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: Roger Penske celebrating the sixtieth anniversary of Team Penske from 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: their first race at the Rolex twenty four nineteen sixty six, 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: which they won in class. They won overall for the 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: third time in a row. Felipe Nazar gets it done, 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: so we could sort of say that streak continues of 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: an IndyCar driver winning overall. It's not been every year, 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: but it's most years because Felipe Naser has tested an 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: IndyCar and my memory says that I think he was 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: going to race in twenty well, he was COVID twenty twenty, Yeah, 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty. 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: He tested, and I believe he was. It was not certain, 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: but I am pretty certain he was going to do 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: a race or two or more in that season with Carlin. 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: I believe so. Anyway, Felipe Nasser is I've really enjoyed 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: getting to know him. Very humble, very very good. He is. 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: If he would have come to IndyCar, he would have 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: been a beast. But it's going quite well. He is 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: a Porsche factory driver in a great seat that is 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: very sought after. Just a couple of thoughts on the 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: Rolex one. It was awesome to be in the only 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: place in the country that seemed to have warm weather. 41 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: I missed the tiki bar that we hung out at 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: on Sunday night, and now I come back and it's 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: the frozen tundra. There was not a caution the last green. 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: It went green the last two hours and fifteen minutes, 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: kind of making up for six and a half hours 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: of caution overnight because of fog. But a race that 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: went green. The final two fifteen three of the four 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: classes were decided by less than two seconds, with fights 49 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: for the lead. In the overall class, the Action Express 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: team that Connor Zilich is a part of almost passed 51 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: Felipe Nas late in the race with Jack Aiken who's 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: a young superstar, and the GTD class as well had 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: side by side for the lead. Basically the Ford almost 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: crashed and somehow sliding through, and then the fourth class 55 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: was decided by a whopping five seconds. The CrowdStrike car 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: that George Kirkch was a part of won that one. 57 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: So the rollus is in the books Indy Car Drivers. Oh, 58 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: by the way, who was amongst the fastest, not fastest overall, 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: but second fastest in overall lap time. 60 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess Alex Below there. 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: You go there you go. The B Pillar kind of 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: lists that way that's most important in sports car racing. 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: It's a website that lists where you can really dig 64 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: in and to find some data. He did not have 65 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: the fastest overall lap, but he still looked like I 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: think he was like third or fourth or fifth in 67 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: fastest overall lap. So yuess Alex Poulow is good at 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: sports car racing as well as we expected. I tried 69 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: to get this on the broadcast for a while, but 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: there's just a lot going on. Our friend James Hinchcliff 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: finally got to drive some on the lead lap throughout 72 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: the day, but then they still had a problem, like 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: his car always seems to do. He was not in 74 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: it and they had a break caliber issue and they 75 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 2: went five laps down on Saturday night. Made that up, 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 2: led a little bit off strategy with an hour fifteen 77 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: left in the race and had a chance at a podium. 78 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: Ultimately finished sixth overall, but that was good for Hinch 79 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: and he did a lot of the driving during the 80 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: six hours of caution. But really fun event. As I 81 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: said have said many times, we love IndyCar to get 82 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: started in late January or February Wheary or something like that. 83 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: But if you like road racing, I know you're not 84 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: watching all twenty four, but give it a try. At 85 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: some point, races like Daytona and Seabring and Rode Atlanta 86 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: really helped fill the off season. It was highly entertaining 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 2: a lot of names that you know, whether it be 88 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: teams or drivers or whatever, and that event keeps growing. 89 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: If you saw some of those shots of the grandstand, 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 2: so the fans used to be in the infield and 91 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: there was nobody in the grand stand, I noticed a 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: big trend last year and you see some of those 93 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: camera shots straight on or sideways, and in turn one 94 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: it was pretty full. I don't know what the number was. 95 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 2: They announced it was a record crowd. They don't announce numbers, 96 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 2: but I believe it. It's the most that I've seen, 97 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: and last year was the most that I've seen. So 98 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: that's good. That means it's almost race time and we're 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: getting ready to start seeing a lot more indiecar testing. 100 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: But here's really I'm sorry I buried the lead. The 101 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: headline is the Weeni five hundred is back, and it's 102 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: not just streaming on the internet. So I had heard 103 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: after the success when it kind of went viral last 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: year that I was told by one of my bosses said, oh, yeah, 105 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: this will be on TV next year, and I thought, well, 106 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: he means like FS one, you know, just like the 107 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: final practice was in the Pit Stop competition. No, it's 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: on network Fox. They're going to break into what they 109 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: have on a Friday afternoon and show the Weenie five hundred. Now, 110 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: obviously there is a I'm sure a paid partnership involved 111 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: with Oscar Meyer. That's how this all happened in the meantime. 112 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: But it worked well for them, and it was funny 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: and it was entertaining. It's gonna be challenging to come 114 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: up with some new lines this year to keep it fresh. 115 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: But here's what stood out. So we get back from 116 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: dinner at the hotel in Daytona watching the end of 117 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: the Seahawks rams game on Fox, and very early in 118 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 2: the postgame they had already run the Pot of Award 119 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: commercial at some point, but early in the postgame there's 120 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: a promo that says Fox is your home of the 121 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: biggest motorsports events, or something like this. The Daytona five hundred, 122 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: the Indie five hundred and the Weenie five hundred. Oh 123 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: my god. So the WEDI five hundred got top billing 124 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: as amongst the three biggest sporting events on Fox, but 125 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: it probably will as far as what they say impressions, 126 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: and last year for impressions, it might have gotten more 127 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: than the Indy five hundred. Did I know? I got 128 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: more than any other race? So that was unique. So 129 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: we've got that before we get into You were in 130 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: a different room today. Half the field came in today 131 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: for content day downtown Indianapolis. The other half comes in tomorrow. 132 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: You were in the media room where a dozen or 133 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: so came in and all of the Fox announcers me Hinchtownsend, 134 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: Will Buxton, Georgia that Jack wasn't there. Jack was busy. 135 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: Jackie was a race car driver today, so Jamie Little 136 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: filed in for him. We chatted with everybody kind of casually. 137 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: You were in official press conferences. We'll do that in 138 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: a moment. But some news of the last week, I 139 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: think we have to mention is there going to be 140 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: an extra race added to the calendar. It was reported 141 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: last year that there had been some efforts to put 142 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: a race in Washington, DC that just couldn't quite get 143 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: over the finish line. And so when I was in 144 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: La on our Fox meetings last week, I heard it 145 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: was back in play. No one told us this is 146 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: a part of our seminar, but just chatter amongst the 147 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: class that, oh, I hear this might be back in play. 148 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: And then here's how I think it broke on a 149 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: political site. We saw it on a website whatever it 150 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: was Thursday or Friday morning. And then President Donald Trump 151 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: just goes all in and posts on his true social 152 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: that it's happening. It's happening. We're going to raise and 153 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: he creates an AI video. And by the way, some 154 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: of the lines they used from that, we call him 155 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: wow lines when you say, oh, this is the biggest 156 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: event in the world history in the making. A lot 157 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: of those were from the Weeni five hundred. Oh no, 158 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: they really were. Oh no, that's what he took it from. 159 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: And he just announces it's going to happen. It's not 160 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: definitely going to happen, but it could. And here's what 161 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: I read. I think this was in the New York 162 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: Post because Donald Trump made more statements later and just 163 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: simply said that Chuck Schumer is holding this up, and 164 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: he said, we can't get Schumer. Schumer is making it 165 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: very difficult, Trump told the Post. Then he said, what's 166 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: wrong with him? Everybody wants to Schumer doesn't because he 167 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: doesn't want to see advertising near the Capitol. The cars 168 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: have ads. If you didn't, they wouldn't look as good, right, 169 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: That's the only reason. So the plan apparently requires congressional 170 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: approval due to a ban on advertising on capital grounds. 171 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 2: A Chuck Schumer spokesman, he is the Senate Minority leader, 172 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: by the way, said that Senator Schumer is not taking 173 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: a position on the race and is continuing to review 174 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: the available information. We're not going to get into the 175 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: politics of all that, but I'm just saying that because 176 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily a done deal, but it might happen. 177 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: The chances of it, I really don't know, but I 178 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: am telling you there is a chance, and it's more 179 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: than just one of those one in one hundred chances. 180 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: I saw a date mentioned of August twenty first somewhere. 181 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: That's a Friday. Maybe they didn't really understand how it works. 182 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: I can't believe this is a Friday race, but who knows. 183 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: I would assume that's kind of the weekend that it's 184 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: the twenty first to the twenty third, so there is 185 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: a weekend available there. One theory would be that if 186 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: this happens, the team's a budget for seventeen races. You know, 187 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: maybe Milwaukee is not a doubleheader anymore, maybe becomes a 188 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: single header. But I do not know that. I did 189 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: not ask my bosses about that. So I'm like everyone else, 190 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: just waiting and seeing. But I can I feel tell 191 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: you that there is something to this. It is real, 192 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: and it is something that is being efforted by the 193 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: Transportation Secretary Secretary of Sean Duffy, you know, as part 194 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: of the America two fifty celebration show. But we shall see. 195 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 2: I hope this doesn't get political, and you know, my 196 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: fear is that those that disagree with things are going 197 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: to hold this against IndyCar. If you're an IndyCar fan, 198 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: think about it this way. This would be a wonderful opportunity. 199 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: This would take it to the masses. It would feel big. 200 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: I love history, I love Washington, d C. I don't 201 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: know how you get this done this quickly, but if 202 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: it can, wow. 203 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: So Graham Rahall was among those asked about it today, 204 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: and I thought His answer was pretty good in that, 205 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's been looking for, you know, some you know, 206 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: magic thing to happen. Magic is the wrong word, but 207 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: some big thing to be offered. And he said, look, 208 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: this wasn't offered to Formula one, this wasn't offered to NASCAR, 209 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: It was offered to IndyCar. And this, regardless of your 210 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: political reliefs, regardless of would it be buttoned up in 211 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: one hundred percent the way we would do it if 212 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: we were racing in Saint Pete, you know, with all 213 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: the all the glitz and glamour that uh. 214 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: And the circuit may not be awesome exactly. I don't 215 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: know how it could be. But so you when you. 216 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: When you think about it like an opportunity, then you 217 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: should be hopeful. You know, will it be great. I 218 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: don't know if it'll be great, but I think it 219 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: would be eyeballs on your sport, our sport. And so 220 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, I think Graham nailed it. You know, 221 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: forget your politics, uh one way or the other, and 222 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: just accept that if as a race fan, this would 223 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: be the kind of golden opportunity that you've been hoping 224 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: for for years. And I think that's the right way 225 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: to approach it. 226 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: So we might have an adjustment to the calendar. As 227 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: it always says when the schedule is announced, there is 228 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: always some type of an asterisk at the bottom that 229 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: says schedule subject can change yep. And you know we've 230 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: we've seen events unfortunately drop off because the various reasons 231 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: at different times, and this could be one that is 232 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: added in that would be hugely positive. So that's exciting stuff. 233 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: Prem update, they are not participating in content Day, which 234 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: does not preclude them for being a part of the season. 235 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: I talked with Calum a lot for a while at Daytona, 236 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,239 Speaker 2: and you know the essence of it is, it's complicated, 237 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: and I'm not going to share everything we discuss, but 238 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: you know, I think I can take something from it. 239 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: Here's what I gathered and I'm not quoting Callum directly, 240 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: so this is going from what I've gotten from him 241 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: and what I'm also hearing. I think they're going to 242 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: do something, but I cannot guarantee that. It seems to 243 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: me it's going to be difficult to be at Saint Pete, 244 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: but I cannot rule that out. I think they could 245 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: be comfortable giving it a go at Saint Pete. They 246 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: still have some people. I think the challenge is going 247 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: to be getting enough people to have two cars. I 248 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: will be surprised if they're running two cars, and I 249 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: don't see any way they're running the entire season. I 250 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: don't see how they're going to the test at Phoenix. 251 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: And if they're not going to the test at Phoenix, 252 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: they should not race at Phoenix. That would probably be 253 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: a waste of time and efforts. My guess is didn't 254 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: ask Callum this because I think both drivers are under contract. 255 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: But my guess is if one driver is racing, it's 256 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: probably going to be Callum. I don't know. I don't 257 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: know that the team would be called Prema either at 258 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: this point, so it probably would have a different name. 259 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: And I think there's still a process of, you know, 260 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: trying to finalize some extra funding. I'll go back to 261 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: it's complicated, and I would assume that the Rose Sinnes 262 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: have some equity in the team. I know Deborah Mayer 263 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: and her company were the primary backers of this, but 264 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: I would think they have some equity and surely they 265 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: if the team is going to continue to exist, which 266 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: was a very successful Junior Formula team. This was a 267 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: fledgling IndyCar operation, But I would think since they left, 268 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: that means there's still plans to do something and they 269 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: should be receiving something for their share, because I would 270 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: think that was still a profitable business on that side 271 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: of things. So I don't have any firm answers. I 272 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: don't know if they're going to be at Saint Pete. 273 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: I know some people think that cannot happen, but I 274 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: think it could still happen for Saint Pete. But I 275 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: don't see how they are going to be able to 276 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: do all the races. And you know, I know people 277 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: made a lot of Ryan Brisco is another defection. Now 278 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: they would miss Ryan Brisco, but they've got bigger problems 279 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: than a driver. Coach. Calum I Loot and Robert Schwartzman 280 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: now know what they're doing. They need engineers, they need 281 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Robert Gouway was one of their top engineers who's been 282 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: around IndyCar for a long time. For a long time 283 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: with Schmid, Peterson and Narrow McLaren and where did he 284 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: just sign? Did he sign with Ray Hall Ray Ray 285 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: Hol Yes, one of the yeah along with Ryan Briscoe 286 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: Brisco also is is I think that's right, and I 287 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: don't quote me on that. I could be wrong. No, 288 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: I think you're right, but okay, so anyway, I don't 289 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: know anything definitive. But you know, it's not a great 290 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: sign that the drivers weren't asked to come here. But 291 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: that's because the drivers don't They don't know right now. 292 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: There's not a lot they can say at this point. 293 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: So I think what a calub made. Some kind of 294 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: had some fun on social media saying he was stuck. 295 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: They had several excuses for why he was laid for 296 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: content day. It was tough to get there. It was 297 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: a little tough to get through downtown Indy at seven 298 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: thirty eight o'clock this morning as well. Now I don't 299 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: think Robert did end up at Rayhall. They announced Mike 300 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: Puloski is the old that's right. So Robert is with 301 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: another team. That's somewhere buried in my notes. But I 302 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: remember when I saw that thinking that's a good get. 303 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: He is a sharp guy, and that's an important loss 304 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: for Prema at this point. So that's what we know there, 305 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: and we are still waiting for a dale coin update. 306 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: I have heard you probably know and you can't speak 307 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: to this as an IndyCar employee, but I have heard 308 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: that Roma gro Jean will be a part of the 309 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: gathering tomorrow. He was not one of the drivers today, 310 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: but only half were today. But I also heard he 311 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: was going to be announced two weeks ago on a Wednesday, 312 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: and I don't believe I've seen that release yet, so 313 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: I need to see it. I need to see it. 314 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: As of we chat right now at five pm plausibly live, 315 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: I've not seen that announced, so I still need to 316 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: see that announcement. It's very likely we'll see something tomorrow morning. 317 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: But I say, here's Raman's going to want to stop 318 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: seeing me. On Rolex twenty four day last year, I'm 319 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: leaving someone else's garage forty five minutes into the race, 320 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: and he walks by me. Wait a minute, you're supposed 321 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: to be driving the car. Yes, it just broke, and 322 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: he tells me the story and then he heads home. 323 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: This time on Saturday afternoon, I've just finished my first break. 324 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: We do three hours or so at a time, and 325 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: then you get a couple of hours off and I'm 326 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: on a golf cart headed back up to pick up 327 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: my pack, going around the International Horseshoe. So like to 328 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: turn three hairpin, driving really parallel with the track opposite direction, 329 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: and there's a lot of car and cart traffic. So 330 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 2: I'm stopped and lo and behold, here comes Roma carrying 331 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: his helmets, walking up to me. We're nowhere near Pitt 332 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: Lane or the garage area, so obviously his car has 333 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: come to a stop somewhere in that area. He's climbed 334 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: out and he's walking back, and he comes up to me, 335 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: and he's obviously not happy, and he's yelling about I 336 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: won't say the name because I'm only ninety five percent 337 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 2: sure I got the name correct through his accent, but 338 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: you know, so and so hit me and and we're done. 339 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: So that's our conversation there again. And I was able 340 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: to report that into the truck and then I said, well, 341 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: I hope i'll see you on Tuesday or Wednesday at IMS. 342 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: And he didn't respond and kind of kept walking away. 343 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Robert who found in my notes he 344 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: went to ECR that's where that that's where he landed. 345 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: So that's a good get and so we move on. 346 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of good things in content today. 347 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: We actually could use extra time because there's probably a 348 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of things we could talk about, and we'll talk 349 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: about them over the coming weeks. 350 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: So that I don't I think Grojean's going to be 351 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: announced tomorrow in the second coin car. My best guess 352 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: is Connor Daily is going to be announced with Dryer 353 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: and Reinbold, but I don't have that. I don't have 354 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 2: that from his teammate. I purposely have not asked Jack 355 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: Harvey who his teammate is going to be. But I'm 356 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: you know, we've seen publicly Dennis Reinbold has said we'd 357 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: like to do more races. We have heard publicly that 358 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: Connor Daly says he has a massed good amount of budget. 359 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: So I'm wondering now that common sense says Prema is 360 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: not running two cars. So now, if Dennis Ryan Bold 361 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: and dry and Ryinbold want to enter for any race 362 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: they wants, they are guaranteed to make the race. So 363 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: might we see an oval package for Connor? I do 364 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: not know that, but that sounds like that could be 365 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: a possibility, and maybe we get information on that today. 366 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: I didn't see Connor there today because so many five 367 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: hundred only drivers were there. Like Jack Harvey today, he 368 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: went through everything today, So I'm hoping we see Connor 369 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: there tomorrow announced with Dryer and Ryan Bold, and maybe 370 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: it's more than the Indy. 371 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Five hundred to confirm. The one thing I can confirm 372 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: out of Jack Harvey's conversation with the media is that 373 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: that he said, you know, Dryan Reinbold was monitoring the 374 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: premise situation. Now that sounds a little obvious, but that 375 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: tells me that interest is there to come run some 376 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: more races if Prema is not in the ballgame. So 377 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: we're not in the ballgame in the two car fashion, 378 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: so obviously you know, Jack would be interested in that. 379 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: I think you your opportunity for Connor daily to run 380 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: more races on ovals, particularly when that was you know, 381 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily Prema's strength in twenty twenty five, I think 382 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: I think that is a legitimate possibility as well. So 383 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: that's what we have on that. Okay, what else did 384 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: you learn today after shadow oo people? Well, I think 385 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: the big takeaway today and it really wasn't any big takeaway. 386 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: I just contradicted myself. But here was a question posed 387 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: to Joseph Newgarden. You're not going to know what Phoenix 388 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: conditions are like, oh, let me, I read the wrong one. 389 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: So he was asked he said, I spoke with it. 390 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: This was Marshall Pru had asked the question. I spoke 391 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: with an IndyCar team owner at Daytona who said they 392 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: were looking forward to hopefully speaking with you about future opportunities. 393 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: I have you atop my possibility free agent list. Are 394 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: you wanting to be an IndyCar driver for many years 395 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: to come? Or are you interested in staying where you 396 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: have been? And his response was full Bill Belichick, I'm 397 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: just focused on the next task right now. For me, 398 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: that's Saint Petersburg. That's my focus now. I don't know 399 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: that any of us thought we'd get much more than 400 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: that from Joseph, but it appears very clear that there's 401 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: there's some smoke in this fire. If if he is 402 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: considering it he's leaving Team Penske, he's at least gonna 403 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: think about it and look around. I think that's what 404 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: that suggests to me. Otherwise he would just say, look, 405 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm happy at tem Pensk. I've been here since twenty seventeen. 406 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: We've won two Indy five hundreds and two championships together. 407 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: It's a great place to be. Yeah, we had a 408 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: hiccup last summer. Things didn't go the way we wanted 409 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: it too. But you know, this has been my home 410 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: and it's a great place to be. He didn't say 411 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: any of those kind of things. 412 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: Out of our Joseph Newgarten conversation. One thing he did 413 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 2: mention is I can't wait to watch will Power without 414 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 2: a filter. He said, I am looking forward to seeing 415 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: how this goes. And by the way, you know, like 416 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: all the rest of us, is, he is going to 417 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: be a beast. He is going to be really good 418 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: this year. I asked him if you know, I know 419 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: he really wanted to get last season to end. Did 420 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: winning Nashville help at all? And he said, no, it 421 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: did not help. I wanted the season to be over 422 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: and I unplugged from everything. I have no idea, like 423 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: I if I could have probably asked him about Prema, 424 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: he would what what's going on? Yeah, Well, as you know, 425 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: he doesn't follow anyone on Twitter, so what do he know. 426 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: The other thing was he was asked about that Phoenix 427 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: test a few weeks ago and he was there with 428 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: will Power and he said, oh, yeah, it was weird. 429 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: It was you know, not not seeing will and typical 430 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: Penske livery all that he said. But what was really 431 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: strange is is he I wanted to go talk to 432 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Ron Razuski about tire strategy, and he goes that that's 433 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: off the table. So it just it just again circles back, 434 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: connects the dots back to the impact that that managerial 435 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: change that happened in May of last year at Team Penske. 436 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,239 Speaker 1: How that really impacted in so many different levels. Just 437 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: for Joseph to even kind of make that kind of 438 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, quip, but you know, I'm sure there was 439 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: some real legitimacy there that tire strate She would have 440 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: been an important conversation for him to have with Ron. 441 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: I feel like we chatted more about that with Scott McLaughlin, 442 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: who is always very open and very conversation and he said, 443 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: you know what I feel like by August last year, 444 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: things had kind of settled. It was a chaotic summer. 445 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: We didn't you know, we lost three key people. It 446 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: was challenging just if you wanted to get travel booked, 447 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: so everybody's job changed, and it had started to settle, 448 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: and he said, I feel like now we are ready. 449 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: You know, he is super happy. He knew rival Pratos 450 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 2: a little bit who had been on the sports car 451 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: side of things but has been around Indy Car, and 452 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: Scott had driven the poor Shapensky in testing, so he 453 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: felt like they already had a good relationship. One thing 454 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: he said was, you know, now, I'm kind of happy 455 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: that I'm not the new guy anymore, because even though 456 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 2: he's a three time Supercar champion and has been around 457 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: for five years, he was still the new guy. And 458 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: he's the only one who hasn't won an Indy five hundred. 459 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: So when Power left or was asked to leave or 460 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: not a mighty back, he took the opportunity to I 461 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: want that guy and that guy off the twelve car, 462 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: and he said, I've never really been that assertive before, 463 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: and I pushed for specific people that I wanted to 464 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: kind of shake things up on my team this year, 465 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: and I feel really good about where we're at. We're 466 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: ready to go. We have stabilized and there's no reason 467 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 2: we cannot be what team Penske has been. 468 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: So Scott did make a comment and I couldn't verify this, 469 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: but and I don't think he was joking, but he 470 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: said with the addition of David Malucas for the first time. 471 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: He said in my career, I am the youngest. I'm 472 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: no longer the youngest driver on my team. And I 473 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: thought that was, you know, as he progressed seven years 474 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: in supercars and now six years he's. 475 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: Younger than new Garden. 476 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so interesting that he thought that. He made that 477 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: observation just kind of you know, he made the also 478 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: the point he goes, yeah, this is year six. I've 479 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: almost been here as long as I was at Supercars, 480 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: So you know, it's you know, you talk about guys 481 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: who will make a significant jump, and I'm not talking 482 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: about from Joseph's twelfth place maybe finishing, you know, in 483 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the top three this year. I'm not talking about a 484 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: statistical jump, but a driver who might make a big 485 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: jump in terms of relevance year over year. And McLaughlin's 486 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: in that group of two or three for me. The 487 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: other one would be Christian Lungard, I think can make 488 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: a big jump again, not statistically, but and the third 489 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 1: one might be Kyle Kirkwood, you know, in terms of 490 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: just asserting himself as a legitimate contender. Those three guys 491 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: really stand out for me. 492 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: All Right, we'll continue going down the list of the 493 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: people that we chatted with and what we learned. I 494 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: got a couple of nuggets stat I got some confirmation 495 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: on some things and some of the things I've had 496 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: questions about that I feel like I trust. And then 497 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 2: also some definitives. We ask Graham ray Hall, how much 498 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: longer are you going to drive? He pretty much gave 499 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: us an answer of what his plans will be and 500 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: what the transition will be like when he finishes. We'll 501 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: do that coming up next. Track Side ninety three five 502 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 2: one oh seven five the fan, Hi, this is David 503 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: Lucas and you're listening to track Side. Thank you for 504 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: joining us on a Tuesday night edition, and that reminds 505 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: me note for next week's program. Thursday is what I'm 506 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: seeing on the calendar. Thursday February fifth, seven pm Eastern 507 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: is the next edition of Trackside, and then it'll be 508 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: a quick turnaround Monday February ninth, So check your local 509 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: listings because of Pacer games, maybe Butler games, other things 510 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: going on. So to Thursday the fifth, Monday the ninth, 511 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: and we'll just about be ready to go. Racing content 512 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: days halfway through those in Indianapolis. Picture taking It's pretty 513 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: much a full on day for the drivers. They split 514 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: it up into two different days. Kurt and I in 515 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: different settings, had a chance to talk to the dozen 516 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: or so drivers that were in today and the others tomorrow. 517 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: Fun chat with Poto. I'm not gonna say there's anything 518 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,239 Speaker 2: really revealing, you know. We talked a lot about what 519 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: you know, specific things that they need to take the 520 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: next step, and asked everybody about catching Alex blow And 521 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: of course we asked him about his new promo on 522 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Fox and he said, I really liked it. I had 523 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: some input on that, and I felt like it was 524 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: a fun thing to do and kind of fit my personality. 525 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: Speaking of personality, I think will Powers I have not 526 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: seen it, but I've heard about it, and I think 527 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: it from what it's been described to me, is gonna 528 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: fit Willpower the New Garden when I don't think we 529 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: ever talked to seem perfect because I think it described 530 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: one of the reasons, like a philosophy in life for 531 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: New Garden, And going back to unfollowing everyone on Twitter 532 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 2: that you know, this is a very happy, go lucky, 533 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: friendly guy, but when it comes to it, he's a killer. Yeah, 534 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: you know, he He is not intract He's not here 535 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: to make friends, even if he's barbecuing for you. He 536 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: is here to cut out your heart and win a race. 537 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: And I think I would imagine he had some input 538 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: on that as well. I'm sure they run ideas by 539 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 2: him and say okay with this, But that has been 540 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: a philosophy. He was a lot closer with drivers early 541 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: in his career, and I think at some point three 542 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: or four years ago he decided, Nope, I am here 543 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: to do a job and I'm going to focus. And 544 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: he may be right about that, because he's really good, 545 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: especially at the biggest race in the world. Could have 546 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: should have won it from last year without a problem. 547 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: That would have been fascinating. He might have won it 548 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: from the last row. 549 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: He might have heere, Hey, mark May fourteenth on your calendar. 550 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: It's fast Thursday, as was described today, That is the 551 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: day before the boost gets turned up. That is the 552 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: day Felix Rosenquist and his wife were expecting their first child, 553 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: a daughter. And you know similarly Alexander Rossi he and 554 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: his wife had a baby May eleventh, but that was 555 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: the day after the Grand Prix. It wasn't an on 556 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: track day in May at the speedway, so baby watched 557 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: for Felix Rosenquist and and you know all the pressure 558 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: that just induced. 559 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: I think that's what the Rossies did, and just kind 560 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: of picked a day or right after the GPS is 561 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: almost an exact it's almost right in the same situation. Yeah, 562 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: I didn't ask him today, you know, if he would 563 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: have to skip anything in that regard, but that's something 564 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: to worry about as we move forward. We asked some 565 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: pointed questions to Nolan Siegel, you know, and he said 566 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: he read this story just like everybody else about Tony 567 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: saying he had to be in the top ten to 568 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: keep his job. So he said, that's fine. You know, 569 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: I understand what this is about. And if you're a 570 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: race car driver, you have to perform. So I've always 571 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: put pressure on myself. So he knows this. He isn't 572 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: necessarily looking at specific positions, but just let's maximize, do 573 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: the best of it, and you know, hope to keep 574 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 2: driving Indy cars moving forward. 575 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: But what was interesting that he said, I don't know 576 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: if he said this to you, but he said he 577 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: and Tony haven't talked that. You know, I would have thought, 578 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: I guess I would have expected a phone call between 579 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: the two of them, and sometime in the last month 580 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: since that comment came out, you know, you haven't talked 581 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: to your boss in a month. 582 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 2: That's interesting. Tony told us when he came back to 583 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: our meetings at LA that this was nothing that he 584 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: had not said to Nolan already. Yeah, that's interesting. And 585 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: I know he had to get permission from Tony and 586 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: the team to not only do the Rolex twenty four, 587 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: but he's doing the Asian Lamas series, so he's going 588 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: to be gone for a lot of the next little while. 589 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: It's three different weekends. But he said, I won't miss anything. 590 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm not going to miss any of the tests, you know, 591 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: I'm missing the Phoenix test or anything else that they're doing. 592 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: He also said there are a lot of changes coming 593 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: to his pitstand. He's got the same engineer, Kate Gunlock, 594 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: but he said that's about the only person there. So 595 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: I think in my mind that's kind of significant. Kyle 596 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: Morior was brought in to, you know, one be the 597 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: director of competition for the team, but was on Nolan's stand, 598 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: so obviously he said, you know, I'm not going to 599 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: say and actually he did not say that Kyle was 600 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: not there, but he did say there are a lot 601 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 2: of changes on my stand and I think Kate's the 602 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: only one that was there last year. So we only 603 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: had like fifteen minutes with each person because they've got 604 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: forty two stops they have to go to, so it's 605 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: not like an unlimited amount of time, and all have 606 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 2: more time to chat with them before the Saint Pete Race. 607 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: But you know, here's the way Nolan can look at it. 608 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: It. 609 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: I still think that Tony's statements were by design to 610 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: get it out there, if not maybe thinking let's see 611 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: how the kid handles the pressure, but also just to 612 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: let every other manager and driver that's a free agent 613 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: know we may have a spot like Joseph Nugarten, like 614 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: Joseph Dugarden. Yeah, but I'll say this, I know Nolan 615 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: would love to stay at Aera McLaren and he has 616 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: a very good chance of doing that if he has 617 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: a solid season of tenth, twelve, thirteenth makes progression and 618 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 2: there's also a financial element available. But if that doesn't 619 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: work out, if Nolan takes a step forward, he will 620 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: have opportunities, and that's I think kind of his approach 621 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: is I can only control what I can control. I 622 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: need to keep getting better. You know, he's talked about 623 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 2: how I kind of know what I need to know 624 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: now and feels like he is is he just now 625 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: twenty one years he. 626 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: Just turned twenty one and like November, in November, yeah, 627 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I one in November. I was going 628 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: to make that point. I mean, he's he's closer to 629 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: twenty one than he is twenty two, So you know, 630 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: you forget just I guess that's why it was so 631 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: surprising that he that he was have for that seat 632 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: so quickly from an age standpoint. Again, not that he 633 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: didn't have talent, not that twenty one year old twenty 634 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: year olds can't can't be successful. 635 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: But money is always the answer, and that has come 636 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: out now because of the Alex Polo case. By the way, 637 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 2: that's news too, that's true. And did you see someone 638 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: posted the nugget? Maybe Nathan Brown, former beat reporter for 639 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: The Indie Star now covers The Colts found this that 640 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 2: in the deposition that according to this, McLaren signed some 641 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 2: sort of an option with Christian Loonguard in like December 642 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 2: of twenty three to have first right of refusal on 643 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: him and he did the entire twenty four season. I 644 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: did a screen grab of this. Yeah, no, you're maybe 645 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: follow Bob Rayhall on Twitter because he now you have 646 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 2: to be accepted. His account is private, but I follow Bob. 647 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 2: And then I saw Bob at Daytona and I asked 648 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 2: him about this. I'm going to try to but basically 649 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: his comment was, huh, that's interesting that McLaren signed my 650 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: driver to something. While he probably had some sort of 651 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: a clause, maybe he didn't, maybe he didn't, but he 652 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 2: was a seemed to be a bit annoyed about all 653 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 2: this that he thought that they were still going to 654 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 2: have the opportunity to retain Christian Loonguard. And it turns 655 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: out it was always in the hands of McLaren if 656 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: they wanted him. There had been something signed that he 657 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: was going to move on with that team. Yeah, nath 658 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 2: Bobby's quote was something like, I may show my lawyers this. 659 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: Nathan Brown had screenshot at the conversation and I remember 660 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: this on the podium at IMS that Mike Lanagan was 661 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: dancing around the conversation about could they, you know, retain 662 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: the three drivers they had and so yeah, it was 663 00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: good get by. 664 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: Nathan among the things you learn coming through one hundred 665 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 2: and twenty four pages of court files. Long Guard signed 666 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: a deal with Aaron mclaaren a December twenty three that 667 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 2: gave the IndyCar team the option to sign him for 668 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: twenty five Ie eliminated other teams from negotiating with him, 669 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 2: even though he's with Roll and Bobby's response was interesting 670 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: on that. 671 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. 672 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 2: There you go on that chatted with Christian Louinguard. You know, 673 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 2: as you'd expect, he's got good confidence, feels he knows 674 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: ovals are kind of the next step. That kind of 675 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: felt like by the end of the year he was 676 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: around top five or so, and noted that Alex Polow 677 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: won championships without being awesome on ovals. He was good 678 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: on ovals, and I think loing Guard is. I think 679 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: he's at that point where he's where Polo was two 680 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: or three years ago, which was still good enough to 681 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 2: win a championship if you're consistent, take advantage of things 682 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: and so forth. So I feel like he's still going 683 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 2: to be a very big factor this year. 684 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: There are two or three drivers who are who are 685 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: worthy of winning a championship, and then I will say, 686 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: in an era other than one that includes Alex Polow, 687 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: that may be the deterrent for a Poto Award, for 688 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: a Christian Lungard, for a Kyle Kirkwood for I mean, 689 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: something is going to have to go sideways with Pelo's 690 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: program for this to be derailed. I mean, he could 691 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: have half the season he had last year and still 692 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: win this thing by fifty points. I mean, he nearly 693 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 1: won this thing by four races. I mean, it's unbelievable. 694 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: I think I pointed this out a couple of weeks ago. 695 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: Dario Frankidi won his four championships by a combined forty 696 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: seven points. I mean, and he had great success and 697 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: won by forty seven total, and Alex has won one 698 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: championship by nearly two hundred. 699 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: A couple of drivers said, it's just kind of embarrassing, 700 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: you know it is? He said, even if you finished seconds. 701 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: This wasn't Pottle that talked about this, but even if 702 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 2: you finished second in Europe whatever, it was, one hundred 703 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 2: and fifty points behind, that's even more embarrassing. You're not 704 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: even proud to be second at that point because of that. 705 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's owning space in everyone's head and trying 706 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: to figure out. And what they always say is it's 707 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: not like it's one thing. You don't say, oh he's 708 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: the best, he breaks later than everyone else. No, he 709 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: just does everything just a little bit better everything. 710 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: At every track, Virtually every track, I mean the only 711 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: place you could maybe say that's Indy. And then you 712 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: look at his Indie results and if he doesn't get 713 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: caught coming to pitt Road, what was that in twenty two, 714 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: He's got a chance to win that race in twenty one. 715 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: It takes Elio Castronevez to beat him in twenty you know, 716 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: go down the list. Oh he's been good at Indy. Yeah, 717 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's been. He could be without much of 718 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 1: a stretch. He could be a three time Indy winner 719 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: right now. 720 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: So one of the questions I've had is when, as 721 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: will Power said, Team Penske offered him after he won 722 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: Portland a chance to stay. I asked David Malucas, what 723 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: would that have meant for you? So he said, I 724 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 2: even though everyone thinks I was signed up all year, 725 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: and I tend to believe David, he was very convincing 726 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: to me, because this makes sense he didn't say that, 727 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 2: you know, there was never a conversation, but he said, 728 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: my contract was with Foight, but there had been conversations 729 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: and just kind of reading between the lines, it's like, yeah, 730 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna come join us at some point and we'll 731 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 2: let you know when. And he said it was performance based. 732 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 2: So we said, does that mean like there was a 733 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 2: specific clause like we wondered about, and he's I think 734 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: he was saying no, it was more of like a judgment. 735 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 2: But he said, I did not find out for certain 736 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 2: that I was moving until after Portland. And when I 737 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: asked what happens if Will had taken up their offer, 738 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 2: he said, I assume I would have stated at fight 739 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 2: for one more year. Yeah, that makes sense, pretty honest answer. 740 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: Didn't duck our question on that, and it makes perfect 741 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: sense on that. Seems to be in a great frame 742 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 2: of mind. Is loving the opportunities, you know, when you 743 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 2: ask for the seat to be tweaked to the steering 744 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 2: wheel different, it's something he's never really had an opportunity 745 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: to do. They're custom pedals, and he said, actually, I've 746 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 2: just used the stock pedals. Can we go get that? Oh, 747 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: we don't have those, so they're going to essentially have 748 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: to make custom stocks pedals for David Malucas because that 749 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: is what he's comfortable with. But he said, yeah, I'm 750 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: ready for the pressure. It's kind of what it's always about. 751 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 2: He said, I owned one suit. I had three straight 752 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: days of functions with the same people, so I couldn't 753 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 2: wear the same suit. So he said, I've significantly up 754 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: upgraded my wardrobe and have more suits now at this point. 755 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: But Little Dave seems to be ready, and his two 756 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: teammates spoke very highly of him. It sounds like McLaughlin 757 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 2: is really doing it everything he can't. You know, he 758 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 2: knows it's to his benefit to have a strong teammate 759 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 2: and is taking the opportunity to be the veteran leader. 760 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 2: You know. And they both live in Charlotte, so I 761 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: think that can be. 762 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: So I guess, I guess David moved to Charlotte because 763 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: he was an Indy moved Indy famously last year. 764 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely moved, and that was one of the 765 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 2: things McLaughlin said. I've been very impressed. You know. It's 766 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 2: not like he's a second year driver who gets a 767 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 2: new job and is going to be there all the time. 768 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's been around for a little bit, 769 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 2: but he said he is approaching this the right way. 770 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: He's there all the time, is asking the right question, 771 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: is doing everything conceivably possible to be ready for this opportunity. 772 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 2: And it's important, you know, once you won the Indy 773 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: five hundred, you can move back to Nashville, but or 774 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,320 Speaker 2: wherever you want to be, because Joseph moved to Charlotte 775 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: at one point too, and then you get established and 776 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 2: it's not quite as important. 777 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: I just wonder if McLaughlin thinks about him as kind 778 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: of his future, so to speak, you know, in turn 779 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: of being a teammate, and maybe Joseph might not be 780 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: there and you know that might be his It's just 781 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,959 Speaker 1: important to you know, if Joseph is thinking about being 782 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: elsewhere or considering it, then maybe it's really helpful to have. 783 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 2: I just don't think there's a massive amount of interaction 784 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: with Joseph. 785 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing. His personality, right, you know, 786 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: from a competitive standpoint, is not he's not engaged with 787 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: I know that sounds that sounds wrong to say, so 788 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: I'll stop myself. 789 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: I think I think Joseph is still very engaged with 790 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: the team, but it's very business like and he's a 791 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 2: different point in life now with you know, two young 792 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 2: children and he lives YEP in Nashville's he's got he's 793 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 2: got no power, and he's kind of concerned about that 794 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: because they got hit pretty hard by by the winter 795 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 2: storm and so forth. 796 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: And I just met. I didn't mean he wasn't involved 797 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: with the team. I just meant it and being around 798 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: the team and his teammates, and it's just he's in 799 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: a different spot in life than he was before. 800 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: Gram Ray Hall twentieth season hard to believe. Yeah, yeah, 801 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 2: So as always, he's asked how much longer? And he's 802 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 2: always said, you know, I'm getting closer to the end. 803 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 2: Don't know how much longer. He did say, I'm under 804 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 2: contract for two more years and I will fulfill that. 805 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: Beyond that, probably not. So he didn't say anything definitive 806 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: because he reserves the right to change his mind. He 807 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: did say I feel rejuvenated. I feel like we were 808 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 2: quick at some tracks last year and we're making progress. 809 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: The one thing I've always kind of assumed wrongly now 810 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: is that when he stops running full time, he would 811 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: run the Indy five hundred, which I think would be 812 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: good for business. It's still good for Graham to be 813 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: an actor driver. And he said, I probably won't do that. 814 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: He said, if I'm I'm either in or I'm out. 815 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 2: He said, I'd be more likely to do sports cars 816 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: if I just want to stay active. But he said, 817 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 2: you know, just doing the Indy five hundred. I know 818 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 2: this up close watching Townsend Bell over the years and 819 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: now Jack Harvey, this is not just two weeks of 820 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 2: your life. This is I'm not going to say it 821 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 2: forty hours a week all year, but it's a lot 822 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 2: doing the Indy five hundred, staying prepared for that, and 823 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: he said, I've got enough going on in business. I'd 824 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: probably want to be a little more active. And we 825 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: wondered about doing the McLaren sports car. He said, I 826 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: was going to do that race. I wanted eury Zips 827 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: to have a chance. I think the world of Euryzips 828 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: and circumstances kept him from being in Formula one. He 829 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: made a mistake, said something he shouldn't have. If you 830 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 2: don't know the story, you can google it on a 831 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: live I racing stream, and he paid the price that 832 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 2: ended his career over there. But those of us that 833 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: know Uri, and I've got to know him a little bit, 834 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 2: he is a wonderful young man and is massively talented 835 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 2: and has been sitting on the bench for them forever. 836 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 2: And it was only one of them could drive, and 837 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 2: Graham said, let Uri do it. I'll have chances to 838 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: drive for the team, So I think he will again 839 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 2: at some point. And by the way back Brown mentioned this, 840 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 2: which makes the Bobby Rayhill McLaren thing even more interesting 841 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 2: that Zach Brown said, we are very much considering the 842 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: ray Hall team when we have the top class GTP 843 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 2: program starting next year or in twenty eight and Bobby 844 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 2: told me we'd be very interested and we could run 845 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 2: both programs so they could have a GTP team in 846 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 2: the near future. 847 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: One thing that Graham added was just some real genuine 848 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: appreciation for who Mick Schumacher is. He really likes Mick Schumacher, 849 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 1: talks about how humble he is despite his family's situation 850 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,320 Speaker 1: and success, Michael's success, and it was interesting that he said, 851 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm honest, he said, Michael Schumacher's impact 852 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: had more to do with me wanting to be a 853 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: race car driver than my own father did on me. 854 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: He said, you know, just being such a fan of 855 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: Michael Schumacher, he said, was really a driving force for me. 856 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: And I thought that was interesting to say that, maybe 857 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: a little embellished, because how could you not be inspired 858 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: by your own father. But that's how significant Michael's success 859 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: had on Graham growing up. 860 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 2: Graham also said, don't expect this to be an immediate turnaround. 861 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 2: Gavin Ward and others have some ideas of what we 862 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 2: can do to from the ND five hundred, but he said, 863 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 2: we honestly don't have time to do that for this year, 864 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 2: So I don't know that you're going to see an 865 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 2: immediate impact. It might be more of a year two thing. 866 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: So still a bit of a challenge there. And we 867 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: are into year two for the Ed Carpenter Racing team. 868 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 2: Talk with Alexander Rossi a lot about that. So they 869 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 2: got the cash infusion last year, but it still takes time. 870 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: This is the year they expect that to really start 871 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 2: to pay dividends. They've changed a little bit more personnel again, 872 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 2: they're just a little deeper in a lot of areas. 873 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: So he's pretty optimistic at this point. And one thing 874 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 2: he said is that, you know, they're really looking at 875 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 2: performance on pitt Lane as well. And they basically did 876 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 2: a gong show with athletes, brought in nineteen people, flew 877 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 2: six in, you know, not just local to try out 878 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,919 Speaker 2: to see might you be able to be a tire 879 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 2: changer in IndyCar and four of them they were impressed 880 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 2: enough with it. They're continuing to work with not necessarily 881 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: working this year. So this has been a thing in 882 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 2: NASCAR for a long time. They fly in people on 883 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 2: Saturday night. They do not work on the cars, they 884 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 2: change the tires. They are former college football players most 885 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 2: of the time. They are looking at that model. It's 886 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: not going to happen immediately because you still have to 887 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 2: work a little bit more, but it's something that teams 888 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: that are funded well enough are considered. 889 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good stuff. 890 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 2: All right, we'll see what we missed and more coming 891 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 2: up in a moment on track side. 892 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: How this is Scott McLachlan and you're listening to track 893 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 1: side on ninety three five and one I seven five 894 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: the fan. 895 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 2: All right, final segment and what we missed, Oh we 896 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: missed the end of the McLaren and Alex Polo legal fight. 897 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: Kurt referenced that so here are some of the details 898 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 2: that Polo has been ordered to pay twelve million dollars 899 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 2: to McLaren Racing. Could have been even more. The part 900 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 2: about the Formula One aspect was thrown out. There are 901 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,439 Speaker 2: a lot of places where you can read it all 902 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 2: into that just my initial thought, Well, one don't really 903 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 2: know what all is involved, and it was all above 904 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,479 Speaker 2: our understanding. But that said, I was still a little 905 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 2: bit surprised it was that much. I expected him to 906 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: pay something. I was a little surprised that it was 907 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: that much. And McLaren is still seeking legal fees, which 908 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: they say are also twelve million dollars. So that is 909 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 2: that and done and dusted. So hello, We'll just have 910 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 2: to keep winning championships and bonuses and taking out out 911 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: on everyone else. Lynn tweeted about the start of the show. 912 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,439 Speaker 2: I know I mentioned this a little while ago too 913 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 2: that he noted that Polo had the second fastest lap 914 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 2: and race behind the six car and his average was 915 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 2: second two. Brett Keyes asked or says, Dennis Hauger appeared 916 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 2: to have a completely blank suit today at content day. 917 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 2: That has to signal something about some possible checks not 918 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 2: yet clearing a DCR right, thanks for all you do. 919 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, Brett. No, I don't think that's the case 920 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: at all for Dennis. Remember, he is basically property of 921 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: Andretti of TWG Global, and he is being loaned out, 922 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 2: and I think he is being paid by Andretti. And 923 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if one hundred percent of his program 924 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 2: is being paid by Andretti, but that's his primary sponsor, 925 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 2: and this is common. You know. Remember we're still a 926 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 2: month away from the start of the season. In fact, 927 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 2: Ryan Hunter Ray mentioned he came in with a blank 928 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 2: suit and he just said, you know, contracts are not 929 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 2: maybe they are finalized, but it just got done. He said, 930 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: the program is fully funded. We just can't announce it yet. 931 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: So I'll have some logos on my suit, but for 932 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: now it is basically a blank and they'll probably try 933 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: to put something, you know, maybe it's Andretti partners that 934 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 2: will be on that kind of like what we saw 935 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 2: with Penske partners on the Malucas even though we just 936 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 2: said Malucas told us he had no deal. Remember there 937 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 2: was a partnership though between Penske and aj Foyd. So 938 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 2: that's how that could be stated that that was dealt 939 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: with on that standpoint. All right, final thing, I'm happy 940 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 2: Race season is here. Love doing the role X. Now 941 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 2: really get to start digging into IndyCar as well. I 942 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 2: should have mentioned this earlier too. I'm very grateful to 943 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 2: my bosses. I work at half the networks. That's kind 944 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 2: of cool. Thank you to Fox for allowing me to 945 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 2: work at NBC and vice versa for NBC allowing me 946 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 2: to work for Fox. I'll be doing a lot of 947 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,000 Speaker 2: the MSA races and all the IndyCar races and can't 948 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: wait to get started on the IndyCar side very soon. 949 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 2: We'll see you next Thursday is our next track side, 950 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 2: just over a week away. Thanks for joining us tonight