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Speaker 1: Live from ball Heart Blind and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz. Today.

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Speaker 2: I did myself and just coming from the firing room

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Speaker 2: just a little bit ago. On my way over here,

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Speaker 2: talked to a bunch of members of the team and

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Speaker 2: I'll say, normally when we're in the firing room working

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Speaker 2: over there, folks got their heads down and they're working

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Speaker 2: and they do doing all the business that we do

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Speaker 2: of the space business. But I'll say there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of smiles today, so it felt really good about that.

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Speaker 2: As the team is preparing, I think everybody's pretty excited

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Speaker 2: and understands the significance of this launch. We did talk

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Speaker 2: to the flight quil last night late a briefing with them.

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Speaker 2: We had another one just a little bit before I

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Speaker 2: went down to the firing We had another briefing with

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Speaker 2: them last night, was just to kind of go over

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Speaker 2: the day launch routine with them and kind of a

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Speaker 2: refresher for ourselves and for them, and that went really well.

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Speaker 2: They were in great spirits. And then we had another

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Speaker 2: briefing today just to talk about how the launch countdown

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Speaker 2: was going. And as we'll talk here a little bit,

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Speaker 2: it has been going really well.

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Speaker 3: Artemis too.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about the flyby of the Moon that is

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Speaker 4: scheduled for well, April first, which is a terrible day

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Speaker 4: to do. Who does a flight on April Fool's Day?

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Speaker 4: That is just that is not the timing I would

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Speaker 4: have gone for, But then again, I'm not in charge

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Speaker 4: of timing for NASA. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, an

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Speaker 4: absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Guys, good to be with you.

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Speaker 4: It's a ten day mission and Artemis is about getting

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Speaker 4: back to the Moon. This is the first time since

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Speaker 4: the Apollo program. What is the point here, Well, the

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Speaker 4: point is something that just a good amount of thinking

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Speaker 4: has brought us to, and that is, if the plan

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Speaker 4: is Mars.

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Speaker 3: Right, if the plan.

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Speaker 4: Is to get to Mars an exploration of Mars, how

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Speaker 4: does that happen? And what has been clearly understood is

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Speaker 4: that it would be easier if you were launching from

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Speaker 4: the Moon first, you have a little bit of distance,

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Speaker 4: but really what you get is the benefit of a

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Speaker 4: lack of atmosphere and a lack of gravity.

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Speaker 3: Not a total lack of gravity, but a great lack

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Speaker 3: of gravity.

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Speaker 4: If you're talking about launching, I don't claim an expertise.

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Speaker 4: I do claim an understanding that I get the mouth.

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Speaker 4: If you are talking about launching from Earth, you have

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Speaker 4: to overcome this gravity with a trendous metaforce and fuel.

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Speaker 3: And now you got to take a flight to Mars,

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Speaker 3: which is not an easy thing to do.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I still argue large levels of impossible.

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Speaker 3: If you're doing it from the Moon, you have some

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Speaker 3: distance you don't have to cover.

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Speaker 4: Right, You're not halfway there by any stretch, but you

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Speaker 4: got some distance you don't have to cover. And man,

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Speaker 4: is it a lot easier to punch through whatever atmosphere

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Speaker 4: may minutely exist, allowing you more opportunity, more fuel, et

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Speaker 4: cetera to get to where you're going. That is as

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Speaker 4: Laman as I can get, really as layman as I

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Speaker 4: can understand.

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Speaker 3: It what you have.

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Speaker 4: So the question is is the Moon a hub for Mars?

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Speaker 4: The Moon is a hub for a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: But yes, that is a strong possibility, And that's where

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Speaker 4: a lot of these conversations are now. I think it's fascinating,

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Speaker 4: and I will tell you that the Moon or NASA

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Speaker 4: is one of the It might be the only thing

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Speaker 4: left where I say, I know government shouldn't be in

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Speaker 4: this business, per se. I know that government should spend

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Speaker 4: its money like this. I don't care do it. I

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Speaker 4: think it's awesome. I the level of hypocrite you can

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Speaker 4: call me on this subject goes from now until the

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Speaker 4: end of time.

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Speaker 3: I accept, I accept.

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Speaker 4: I get what I'm doing, I get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I understand completely and totally. It's true. It's true. Yet

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Speaker 3: it's awesome.

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Speaker 4: I think there is something to it. I think there's

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Speaker 4: something you can call it romantic.

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Speaker 3: I just think of look at what our fellow human

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Speaker 3: beings thought of as possible and then did.

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Speaker 4: It's why SpaceX is so unbelievable. These people who hate

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk and call him dumbscrew them, moron, morons, embarrassing, pathetic.

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Speaker 3: Low people. It's amazing.

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Speaker 4: It is all spectacular, spectacular and terrific.

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Speaker 3: I just want to see more of it. I just

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Speaker 3: want to see more of it. That's all. Love it.

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Speaker 4: What I'd like to see less of is this absolute

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Speaker 4: nonsense garbage that the Daily Mail just put out about

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk. This is truly truly disgusting. What they post

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Speaker 4: did over there.

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Speaker 3: The Daily Mail.

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Speaker 4: Read's bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did not match

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Speaker 4: rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson. New court filing claims, well,

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Speaker 4: that's something.

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Speaker 3: That's not what actually happened. It is an.

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Speaker 4: Incendiary, disgusting, horrifying headline. So it was a conspiracy. So

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Speaker 4: Candice Owens was right. Hey, let me click on this

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Speaker 4: story to get more. It is beyond a misleading headline.

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Speaker 4: It's a lie because when we take a look at

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Speaker 4: what it is they found during autopsy, they state that

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Speaker 4: the result of the comparison was inconclusive. Somehow the defense,

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Speaker 4: trying to mount a defense, wants to make a claim

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Speaker 4: that this proves that it wasn't Tyler Robinson.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Atf ran as is been reported, an analysis on the

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Speaker 4: bullet jacket fragment recovered from Charlie's autopsy, the result was inconclusive,

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Speaker 4: not no match. Those are two different things. Now, people

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Speaker 4: who play in that world might be able to give

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Speaker 4: me a little more data and a little more explanation.

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Speaker 4: The jacket was too fragmented to compare, which also partially

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Speaker 4: explains the lack of an exit wound. Inconclusive means insufficient

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Speaker 4: evidence to draw any conclusion. It does not mean that

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Speaker 4: the bullet did not match the rifle, as the headline stated,

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Speaker 4: the false inflammatory let me get some clicks headline.

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Speaker 3: So now, what the defense is saying.

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Speaker 4: Is that they want this to be exculpatory, right, exculpatory

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Speaker 4: to clear someone of guilt. But that's not what this

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Speaker 4: data does. That's not what this data can do, not

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Speaker 4: by any stretch. There are other testings that could take place,

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Speaker 4: and the defense doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Want those tests because they.

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Speaker 4: Want to be able to rest on something inconclusive about

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Speaker 4: what it is and help their clients who seems to

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Speaker 4: have murdered Charlie Kirk. It is beyond beyond ugly what

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Speaker 4: it is that the Daily Mail has done here. The

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Speaker 4: defense is questioning how the bullet gets matched. They're trying

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Speaker 4: to defend their clients. And what you want is to say, hey,

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Speaker 4: click here, I mean, I I understand that that clicks

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Speaker 4: are are you know, how.

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Speaker 3: Do I clean this up? Clicks our prostitutes game. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: that's the best I could do to clean it off.

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Speaker 1: I swear to you.

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Speaker 4: But this is dirty. This is dirty and obscene, and

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Speaker 4: that's what that seems to be where we're at right now.

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Speaker 4: We're in the dirty uh kind of play and people

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Speaker 4: fine with it, solid with it. They think that it's

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Speaker 4: somehow acceptable. What part of this would be acceptable? And

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Speaker 4: no one's gonna stop reading the Daily Mail tomorrow. What's

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Speaker 4: going to happen is it's gonna get quoted, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: get used, It's gonna get utilized. Bloody heck, even I

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Speaker 4: will sometimes still use a CNN story as a source.

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Speaker 4: I know that CNN is full of garbage. I'm fully

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Speaker 4: aware that these people can't be trusted, but but they

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Speaker 4: do have one or two people left who can go

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Speaker 4: about doing some reporting. My god, there's still some reporters

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Speaker 4: of the New York Times. You know, it's just that

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Speaker 4: the New York Times can't be trusted. It's it is

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Speaker 4: just flat out horrifying that this would happen, But I

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Speaker 4: guess not surprising. So with that, when you read that headline,

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Speaker 4: know how nonsense it is, know how shameful it is,

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Speaker 4: and know that no, it's not what it claims to be.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Tyler Robinson is the main suspect. He has

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Speaker 3: the right to a defense.

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Speaker 4: Bring him on the trial. I'm Tony Katz, and this

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Speaker 4: is Tony Katz today,