1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday that feels like a Monday, but 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: it was a Monday that was awesome because it was 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: President's Day, which I love. I have no idea how 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: or why it came to be, and I'm not going 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: to bore everybody with it today, but I have a 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: fascination with presidents in general, the trivia of presidents, the 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: studying of presidents, the biography of presidents, the birthplace of presidents, 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: the resting place of presidents. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Like I'm all about it always have been. 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: If people saw the video at Creer Underscore Company, Jake, 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: they would know your favorite president is James Polk. 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: That is correct. James K. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Polk set out He basically said, look, I'm going to 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: be president for one term and I'm going to do 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: the following in one term. And he had his goals 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: and he met all three of them and then wrote 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: off into the sunset and is now his resting place 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: is amongst the state Capitol in Tennessee and Nashville, Tennessee 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: in the Capitol building. He had his flaws, all presidents do. 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: He had his flaws for sure, But and I also 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: think that James K. Polk, he's kind of like the 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Buddy Lazira. Presidents like when you ask people, Okay, who's 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: the most obscure president, Well, it can't be James K. 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: Polk because everybody says James K. Polk, right, and so. 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: You know he's therefore he's like, the most obscure president, 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: by the way, is my man chat Chester Arthur. But 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: it was and I appreciate us getting the opportunity yesterday 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: to have the day off because it was it was 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: cool to just have the day off. We actually went 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: and walked the monam because it was nice outside, went 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: to the Java House in Broadpool, which was great. It 32 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: was packed and it was fun and it was a 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: good day. But now we're back in it, and we're 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: back in it with the thick of things because you 35 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: have college basketball really heating up, and no bigger sign 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: of that than the big one, I mean a big 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: one that takes place tonight, and then you're coming off 38 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: of a weekend, and a long weekend for that matter, 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: with sports in play, and of course also before we 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: get into some of those things, the clock is kind 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: of ticking. And if you look over right now and 42 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: you look towards the west, and you look towards west, 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: fifty sixth Street. You look at where one of the 44 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: storylines for the NFL, and certainly for the Colts could 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: be taking place right now, and that is Eddie. Let 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: me ask you a question. My name is Jake Corey. 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie Garrison. The other voice you just heard, 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: it is Corey and Company here on ninety three to 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: five and one oh seven five the fan, Eddie, I 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: would like for you to envision. Please enclose your eyes 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: for me. 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Okay. 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: It's nine thirty at night on a mid June evening, okay, 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: and the life of eleven year old Eddie Garrison. 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: The neighborhood kids are all over and you're playing a 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: neighborhood game in the yard while your parents are sitting out. 58 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Dusk is setting and you keep wondering what time your 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: parents are finally going to call you back inside. But 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: it's awesome because you were continuing to play late into 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the night. 62 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: Game. 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: Are the neighborhood kids playing when you are envisioning this 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: in your mind. 65 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: We were playing pick up basketball. We're playing twenty one. 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a very common one. Twenty one would be 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: a big one, so too for jackpot. 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: Although that's not a basketball game, but yeah, what's jackpot? 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: I can't even remember. It was like some fictional game, 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: kind of like you had somebody who was in charge 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: of being the quote unquote baker, and they would throw 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: up a ball, whether it's a football or a baseball 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: or something, and whoever caught it got whatever it was worth. 74 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: Okay, what about did you ever play Capture the Flag? 75 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: Yes? 76 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: And one of the most common kickball Also another ball 77 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: was a big one because we. 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: Used to live on a court growing up, so we 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: should make a nice little. 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: Easy, easy kickball field. Yeah, okay, one of the games. 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: And maybe eleven is a little too late, but obviously, 82 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: at a younger age, when you're on the playground, notably, 83 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: you might get involved in a game of tag. 84 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 2: You might get involved in a game of tag. 85 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: And in fact, that is the game that is being 86 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: played right now over on West fifty sixth Street, the 87 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: game of tag, right, and the franchise tag begins today, 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: the colts beginning today. And I don't know what time 89 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: do you know what time of day? I just know 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: that the franchise tag window begins. 91 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: Now it's open. It's open, now, right, it's open. 92 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: And that runs so the ability to franchise tag a 93 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: player ends on March to fourth. You have until four 94 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon on March fourth to label a 95 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: player a franchise tag. Now what does that mean exactly? 96 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: Let me explain. 97 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: The franchise tag is, of course, what a team has 98 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: the ability to do to one player per year. 99 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: If you place that player in a franchise tag, then 100 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: they have to be paid the equivalent of the average 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: I believe it's the top five at said position. But 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: that allows you to continue to negotiate for a new 103 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: contract with the player without concern of interference from another 104 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: team and another team coming in and whisking that player away. 105 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: Well, it depends on which tagg he used. 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Jake, Well, there's the exclusive tag, correct, the transition Yeah, 107 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: transition tag and non exclusive. 108 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 109 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: But for the most part, because the Colts are a 110 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: team that has not used it a lot, right if 111 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: they're using it, Michael Pittman Jr. Was the last that 112 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: they used the franchise tag on. The last player I 113 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: believe to play the season and go into the season 114 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: under the franchise tag was Pat McAfee. But what we 115 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: know is this, if they are to franchise Tag Daniel Jones. 116 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: If you are the Colts and you're looking at it 117 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: and you're saying, Okay, we know Daniel Jones is a 118 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: free agent. We know he plays a position that is 119 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: of the utmost importance to us, and we know that 120 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: there potentially are other teams that could come knocking on 121 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the door for Daniel Jones. Maybe not as many as 122 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: originally thought because of the Achilles injury, but Minnesota, for example, 123 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I have always felt is a possibility because they are 124 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: familiar with Daniel Jones. And perhaps Minnesota looks at Sam 125 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: Darnold and says, you know what, we maybe we should 126 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: have kept one of our two journeyman veterans because JJ 127 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: McCarthy's not ready to go just yet. I'm using Minnesota 128 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: almost generically as example. But having said that, the Colts 129 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: may look at it and say, you know what, We're 130 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: going to bite the bullet and go ahead and franchise 131 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: Tag Daniel Jones until we can get settled on a deal. 132 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: That would cost right now, to franchise Tag a quarterback 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: this year would cost forty seven point two four to 134 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: two million dollars, So you would be guaranteeing to pay 135 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones forty seven million, probably double what he would 136 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: get on the open market. He's roughly I think realistically 137 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: he was probably seen as a three year, seventy five 138 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: million dollar guy before the injury. I think now he's 139 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: probably somewhere in the neighborhood of eighteen to twenty two, 140 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: maybe twenty five. Can you look and see what Sam 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: Donald signed with Seattle for. 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: Three for oh three for one hundred was Baker Mayfield 143 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: not too long ago? 144 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: What did what did Sam Donald sign in Seattle? 145 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: That would be three years, one hundred point five million, 146 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: So he got so okay, he got thirty three thirty 147 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: two million signing bonus fifty five million guaranteed in AAV 148 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: thirty three. 149 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: That that seemed I would think, I mean that if 150 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: that's the going rate, that's the going rate. That seems 151 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: high to me. But either way, wide receiver position the 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: other position, and I think the more likely that the Colts, 153 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: if they elect to use the tag, would use And 154 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: that is for Alec Pierce. Alec Pierce of course is 155 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: in a speaking of transitional Alec Pierce is in a 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: situation where you are transitioning really from Michael Pittman junior 157 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: being your primary receiver into Alec Pierce. And what I 158 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: mean by that, I think is what you know Alec Pierce. 159 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Give him credit. He was a little slow out of 160 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: the gate, but that's common at the wide receiver position. 161 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: And the the thing that he has done since is 162 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: he has shown to be the most versatile receiver for 163 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: the Colts. He can be a deep ball guy, he 164 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: could be a stretch the defense guy. He can be 165 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: an over the middle guy and kind of a possession guy. 166 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: You know, he can play a number of different areas. 167 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: And it would seem as though he wants to return 168 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis. 169 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: We don't know that. 170 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: But then again, if somebody comes along and says, you 171 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: know what, Alec Pierce, here's a five year deal for 172 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety million. 173 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm just throwing random numbers out there. 174 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: If that's a number the Colts say, eesh, then maybe 175 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: you know they they could tag him right and make 176 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: sure that they are securing him until they can figure 177 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: out a deal that they would like to do. Now, 178 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: there are three kinds of franchise tags. There is the 179 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: non exclusive tag. This means a player can negotiate with 180 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: other teams, but the team can match it. So if 181 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: the Colts say to Alec Pierce, we're going to give 182 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: you the non exclusive tag, that means you can talk 183 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: to other people, but before you go with them to 184 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: the prom I have the right of refusal. I can 185 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: go and say no, no, no, no, no, You're staying with me. 186 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: That's the non exclusive tag. The exclusive franchise tag, the 187 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: player cannot negotiate with other teams. The salary is the 188 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: average of the top five salaries at that position over 189 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: the last year or one hundred and twenty percent of 190 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the player's previous salary, whichever is greater. So in that case, realistically, 191 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I would think that the twenty eight million that they 192 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: could exclusive tag Alec Pierce for example. Then there's the 193 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: transition tag, which is a one year tender of the 194 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: top ten salaries that allows the team to match offers, 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: but provides no compensation. If the player leaves, they don't 196 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: get a compensatory pick or anything else. So that's where 197 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: things stand right now on the franchise tag, and will 198 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: keep an eye on it over the course of the 199 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: next week or so to see what happens. 200 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: Now. 201 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: The other thing that comes into play here and not 202 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: necessarily relatable to the tag. But we are getting ready 203 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: to get into and towards the NFL Combine. My favorite 204 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: time of year, the NFL Combine. A bunch of guys 205 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: walking around. What's that, hey, coach, how you doing, coach? 206 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: That's exactly it. It is winter chapter for NFL types, 207 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the NFL Combine where every prospect known to man comes 208 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: into Indianapolis and walks around in a sweatsuit with three 209 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: digit numbers on the back. And then a bunch of 210 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: guys that are retired go and smoke cigars. 211 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: With Eddie White. 212 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Combine, and you gotta post lots 213 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: of photos. But it is of interest this year because 214 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: the number one pick, presumptively is going to be for 215 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: n Enda Mendoza out of Indiana. The curve ball being 216 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: that the Colts do not have a first round pick, 217 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: and if they did, is there a player at major 218 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: need for them that they are now kicking themselves because 219 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: because realistically, you look at it this way, you could 220 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: bemoan the Colts for having dealt their first round pick 221 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: for the next two years if and I think that 222 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: pick would have been like sixteenth if there was a 223 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: can't miss quarterback or. 224 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: Edge rusher. 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: At the sixteenth pick, you would say, oh my gosh, 226 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: what a failed opportunity. But is the player that they 227 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: would have gotten at sixteen going to long term be 228 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: a bigger contributor to them than sauce Gardener, because that's 229 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: what you did. You flipped that pick into sauce Gardener. 230 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: But the Combine is coming up. We will be there 231 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: for I don't know how many of the days, but 232 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: I do believe we'll be broadcasting from there. If you're 233 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: looking at regular Combine guests Eddie on the program, I'm 234 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: thinking that Matt verder Am will stop by, right yep. Oh, 235 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: should we let the ladies be attentively alert about JP Shadrick. 236 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 5: Yes. 237 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: JP Shaddrick from Jacksonville. Hopefully we'll be here. 238 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: We can. 239 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: We can have him on. 240 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: The program, Jennay Coakley, although I don't know how relevant 241 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: the Jets are at this point. 242 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: Right, maybe we can get one of those Raiders folks. 243 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: You know, it got to wake him up though. 244 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: That's the problem the Raider folk when they're here, they 245 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: typically roll in at about two thirty. 246 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they go on Vegas time when 247 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: they're here right, Yeah. 248 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: The big one tonight in college basketball perdueing Michigan, the 249 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: number one ranked Wolverines Dusty Mays group the best in 250 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: the land, the first time since twenty thirteen that Michigan 251 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: enters a regular season game as the number one team 252 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: in the AP Pole. They have a ten game win streak. 253 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: They have tons of size down low. They're not necessarily 254 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: an outside prowess shooting team like it like an Illinois, 255 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: but their size is a challenge and it will be 256 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: a challenge for Purdue. And I don't know this, but 257 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: I've heard this one of the storylines of this game, 258 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: one of the subtleties of this game, one of the 259 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: fun soap opera aspects of this game, aside from the 260 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: ramification within the Big Ten. And the Big Ten is 261 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: loaded loaded. You got Purdue, you got Michigan, You've got Illinois, 262 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: who's really good, Michigan State, who's really good. You know. 263 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: I think Indiana's playing well, you know are they Obviously 264 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: they ran into a buzzsaw with Illinois. I think Iowa 265 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: was decent. Nebraska is obviously very good. There's a ton 266 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: of talent in the Big Ten. And I get the 267 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: impression I don't know Dusty May. Obviously, I know John 268 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: knows him well. Those I know that no Dusty may 269 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: like him a lot. Those I know that have met 270 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: Dusty may like him a lot. Those I know that 271 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: crosspaths with Dusty May during his time at IU like. 272 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: Him a lot. 273 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: But I think there are a lot of coaches in 274 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: the Big Ten that don't. I shouldn't say don't like him. 275 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: That's the wrong, that's irresponsible to me. But I think 276 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: there is some icy relationship between Dusty May and other 277 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: coaches in the Big Ten, if not even necessarily publicly, 278 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: but privately because of the feeling and the sentiment that 279 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: Dusty May is one that was approaching players that were 280 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: not yet in the transfer. 281 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: An advance. 282 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: Maybe Dusty May himself was not the one doing it, 283 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: but representatives on behalf of Michigan were contacting players, Hey, 284 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: would you be interested in going into the portal and 285 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: coming on board with what we're starting? And I think 286 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: Braden Smith is one of those whose name has been 287 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: linked with that, and that does create not in Brayden 288 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Smith's eyes, but I think that there is just a cooling, 289 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: if you will, between Matt Painter and Dusty May and 290 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: that's one of the that's inconsequential towards the x's and 291 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: o's are the game tonight, but it makes for additional 292 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: storyline and drama in what's going to be a big 293 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: time matchup. And I love it. I'm here for it. 294 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: It's been a while since we have had routinely, like 295 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: week in and week out, these big rivalry, I mean, 296 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: the Big ten, Eddie. Let's be real, man, every time 297 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: you turn around, there's a different Top ten matchup, right. 298 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: They just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 299 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 3: It just appears that this might be the big ten. 300 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: Years Ford Purdue. 301 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: The big thing here is is I think they were 302 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: the you know, going into the season thought for sup 303 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: Perdue was the Big ten favorite, and now they got 304 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: to play their way kind of to stay in that contention. 305 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: Right, But it's a big one tonight. 306 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is certainly a big one, Jake, and not 307 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: even just for Purdue, but like, look at this week 308 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: for Michigan. They've got Purdue tonight. Later this week they 309 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: have Duke and that's a one verse three matchup. I 310 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: know it's a conference game. Is there any you know potential, Like, hey, 311 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: I know these college their college kids, stay, Jake, could 312 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: they be ever looking Purdue and I be looking toward 313 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: that duke matchup. 314 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: That's a good player in the week and that's big 315 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Michigan Duke. Yes, party like it's ninety two baby. 316 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: And Houston going down to Iowa State last night, that 317 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: was a heck of a game. You know, if you 318 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 3: watch that or not. 319 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: What I think? Yeah, I'll tell you what. Is i 320 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: Alway State the best team in the country right now? 321 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean March is gonna be 322 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: so much fun, Jake. I know at the tournament just 323 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: because it seems like there are four really good teams 324 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: and there's. 325 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: Like two or three that are really good but not elite. 326 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me tell you who not to 327 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: sleep on. 328 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I think we're gonna have the same team. 329 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, there is a team out there that I think 330 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: got dismissed early and if you look at their overall 331 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: body of work, they don't jump out at you. And 332 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Iowa State, who has been you know, 333 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Iowa State went in the MAKI and pounded Purdue and 334 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: Iowa State knocking off Arizona. I mean i States, Iowa 335 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: States for real, right, we know that we know that 336 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: Connecticut's good, we know that Houston, Houston's gonna guard the 337 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: heck out of you. But the team that I'm thinking of, 338 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: that I'm like, don't sleep on them, don't write them off. 339 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: And you say you think we're thinking of the same team. 340 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Eddie, a couple of hit questions. Okay, 341 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: are they in the Big ten? 342 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: No? 343 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: Are they within a ten hour drive of here? 344 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: No? 345 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're not thinking of the same team. Texas 346 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: Tech who you're thinking of? Yep, I'd agree on Texas Tech. 347 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: There's thig classes are all the teams within the top 348 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: twenty five, and they have got some pretty big wins. 349 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: They just went in Arizona. One there, Carolyn one, Grant McCaslin. 350 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: He's a great coach. The team I was gonna say 351 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: is Kansas. I would not sleep on Kansas. If they're 352 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: starting to put it together. I think they've figured out 353 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: they're just I think they're they're really good. 354 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna just come down to, hey, can 355 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: Darren Peterson stay on the court or. 356 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: Or gonna can they get him on the court? Right? 357 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Eddie, Since we and by the way, we 358 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: are going to talk about Purdue in Michigan. We're gonna 359 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: go up to Lafayette and do that with somebody that 360 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: will be on the radio call tonight for that game. 361 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: That conversation just over five minutes from now. 362 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 363 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: Since we talked last, we have had Valentine's Day? Did 364 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: you have an exciting Valentine's Day? 365 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 3: Went out to dinner? Had a nice time, that's about it. 366 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: Was this a fancy dinner? It was a nice dinner. 367 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was fancy. 368 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: Was there wine included? 369 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: No? 370 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: No wine. 371 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: Neither one of us were wine drinkers. I told you 372 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: this on Friday. 373 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: I'm allergic to wine, so I'm with you. There was 374 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: there was this of an like a cultural cuisine. No Chili's. 375 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 2: Did you go to the Chilis? 376 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: No that Alec did, though, Oh yeah, yeah? How did 377 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: things go for Alec? Alec Eddie's only friend. Alec took 378 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: my advice when I said that Valentine's Day Saturday night 379 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: was the night to go as a single guy and 380 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: go hit the bars because everybody that's there, you know, 381 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: is single. So fish in a barrel night. Have you 382 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: have we gotten a word from Alec on how things 383 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: went well. 384 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 3: See he started dropping the QR and it just immediately 385 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 3: turned people away. 386 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: Oh listen that well, and here's why that, here's why. 387 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: And I get it. 388 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: A lot of people on Valentine's Day, you know you're 389 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: going out if you're single. There's nothing against people with kids. 390 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, there's nothing against kids. Kids are wonderful. 391 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people are like, you know, 392 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking for somebody that's that's that's not been through 393 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: this before. And if you're dropping the QR, then that's 394 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: a real indication that you probably have kids, because kids 395 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: love that phrase. 396 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: It's huge with the kids. 397 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: So if you're dropping the QR, they that probably a 398 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: tactical air there because they assume that means that you're 399 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: already a dad and you've got your dad jokes and 400 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: you've used those already. So that probably didn't go well. 401 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: But other than that, that was that the only thing 402 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: that held them back, you think, I'm not sure. 403 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 3: I do think the QR QR QR played a big 404 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 3: part in it, if not the entire party. 405 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: The QR thing is great. 406 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: Uh hey, Jake, here's the most important deadline, Eddie, do 407 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: you haven't had the breaking new sounder? 408 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 5: Please? 409 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 2: If you recall when. 410 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: We had the Snowmageddon Media they or Logical Org twenty 411 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: twenty six and we got like a foot of snow. 412 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: That was what date? Do we know the date on 413 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: that when that happened. I'll find out when that happened. 414 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: We did the wager on this program. It was more 415 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: of a prediction than a wager that we didn't really 416 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,239 Speaker 1: have any wagering aspect to it. 417 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: But I predicted I throughout the date. 418 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: I said, what will the date be when I pull 419 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: into the parking lot and there is not a single 420 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: remnant of the snow mountain that happens when you plow 421 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: the lot, when you plow the lot and you get 422 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: the big huge snow mountains. 423 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 3: And I was January twenty sixth. 424 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: January twenty sixth, Okay, I throughout the date off the 425 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: top of my head of February seventeenth. 426 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: Somewhere around that. I think it was the twenty Yeah, 427 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: the twenty fourth. 428 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: And when I threw out the seventeenth of February, Eddie 429 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: went with the under that was. 430 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: More of like a proclamation to try to speak good 431 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: fortune in to get some good weather to get rid 432 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 3: of it. 433 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't really a wager between the two of us. 434 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: We just it was more of a mutual picking of 435 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: the brain. Right, here's the question, where do we stand 436 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: right now, because it is the seventeenth of February. When 437 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: you arrived at work, Eddie, did you see remnant at all? 438 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: This is we are our own groundhog day here? Did 439 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: you see any remnant of the snow? 440 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: Yes, there is still snow on the ground. 441 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: Would you say that it's like an accumulative mountain of 442 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: it or just like that remaining like annoying little sheet just. 443 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 3: Probably like three to four inches I guess not a ton. 444 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: And it's only in the corners where there where the 445 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: big boulders were. 446 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: There was one again yesterday I was at a grocery 447 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: store and they have they still have a like a 448 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: small it's it's it's a foothill. I mean it was 449 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: a mountain probably at one time, but it's a foothill, 450 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: all right. A lot to get to today, the Olympics, 451 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: to get to Purdue Michigan. We're going to talk next 452 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: franchise tag window right now, and a cultural observation. I 453 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: made over the weekend. That's one of those that I 454 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: wonder if anybody else thinks the same thing. And on 455 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: the other side, big news involving the Colts. We will 456 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: get to that before we get to Bobby Riddell, who's 457 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: going to join us from the radio network. 458 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: All of that. 459 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: On the other side, here acquiring company on a Tuesday 460 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: that feels like a Monday. 461 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: On the fan. 462 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Bobby Redel from the Perdue Radio Network will join us 463 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: in just a second. But before we get to that. 464 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: This is not a huge surprise, obviously, but and you 465 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: always have to check anymore, right to make sure that 466 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: you're getting like the authentic one as opposed to some 467 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: imposter or parody site. But Yahoo's sports reporting the following 468 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: it is starting to seem inevitable that Colts quarterback Anthony 469 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: Richardson will request a trade from Indianapolis this offseason as 470 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: they plan to move forward with Daniel Jones as their 471 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: starting quarterback when he can return from a torn achilles 472 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: That from Stephen Holder, by the way, who will join us. 473 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: So technically, as Stephen Holder is reporting it, Stephen going 474 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: to join us on the program coming up today, So 475 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: that'll give us something to talk about Richardson, of course, 476 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: the number four overall pick in the draft in the 477 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: year that he was selected in twenty twenty three, and 478 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: that would be a sharp pivot away from that, although 479 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: obviously we think that's going to be the case, and 480 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: that's the yin and yang becomes. Do you credit Chris 481 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: Ballard for having the presence of mind and the wherewithal 482 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: and the vision to get Daniel Jones and go away 483 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: from that, or do you critique him because in the 484 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: most important selection that he has had to make in 485 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: terms of drafting as a coach general manager, in his 486 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: deck ate of doing so, that is a swing of 487 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: the miss. 488 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: So it just depends on which way you want to 489 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: look at it. 490 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: Tonight, Perdue at Michigan, the number one team in the land, 491 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: the Wolverines joining us now from the Perdue Basketball Radio Network. 492 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Ardelle is the color commentator and analyst for Purdue 493 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: Big One. Tonight, Bobby and I look at Michigan and 494 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: I say, this is a real challenge, notably for the 495 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: bigs for Purdue, because it seems as though that's Michigan's 496 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: bread and butter. 497 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: Am I off base in that analysis? 498 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 6: Hey, Jay, thanks for having me on an awesome you 499 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 6: know game here today at Maccarina. Really excited for this matchup. 500 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 6: I think you're pretty spot on that front court for 501 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 6: Michigan and is certainly very imposing. Having a guy like Yoxell Lindenberg, 502 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 6: you know, six eight, six' nine playing that small ford 503 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 6: position at his size and, physicality definitely. Imposing when you 504 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 6: combine that With Marez johnson and that power forward and 505 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 6: in The diemar at. 506 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 7: CENTER i, mean that's how they. 507 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 6: Start they don't play a ton of minutes together in each, 508 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 6: game but that's how they start and they tend to 509 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 6: sometimes finish that way as. Well and all three of 510 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 6: those guys averaging more than seven or more rebounds per, 511 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 6: game all averaging more than one block shot per, game 512 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 6: they're all averaging double figure. Scoring so, yes this front 513 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 6: court is elite to say the least for This michigan 514 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 6: team and For. Purdue they've got a great front court 515 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 6: in their own, right certainly at least a true traditional 516 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 6: front court with the center and power forward. 517 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 7: Position when you. 518 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 6: Think About Oscar kluff And Terry Copplin renn in that starting, 519 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 6: Group Fletcher lawyer kind of plays that small four. Position 520 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 6: or really a third guard with How purdue does that starting. 521 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 6: Lineup so obviously a lot of stress going to be 522 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 6: on that three guard lineup Of purdue to one of those, 523 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 6: guys of, course is going to have to match up 524 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 6: with one of those front court players With michigan to. 525 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 6: Start of, course you hope from A purdue, perspective you 526 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 6: can kind to flip it On, michigan, right maybe make 527 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 6: it difficult for one of those guys to have. To 528 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 6: you would Expect lindenbergh to be that guy who's guarding 529 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 6: one of produced perimeter. Players you, know Hopefully purdue can 530 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 6: maybe use their speed and quickness and some of the 531 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 6: actions pre likes to run offensively to try to put 532 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 6: them in a bind and kind of flip it on. 533 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 7: Them but going to be. 534 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 6: Fascinating Can, purdue you, know rebound and hold your own 535 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 6: on the glass producing a great job from a rebounding 536 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 6: standpoint here, lately but certainly this matchup With michigan from 537 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 6: a rebounding perspective much different than Say nebraska Or. Iowa so, 538 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 6: YEAH i can't wait to see how the front courts match. 539 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 6: Up Daniel jacobson of course come off the bench For 540 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 6: purdue seven foot, four he's going to have his hand 541 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 6: in the, mix, certainly and then a guy Like Jack, 542 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 6: benner that small ball power forward come off the bench For. 543 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 6: Purdue he's certainly going to be playing big minutes as, 544 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 6: well you would think throughout this, game and how he's 545 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 6: able to hold up from a rebounding perspective going to 546 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 6: be something to watch as. 547 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 7: Well so can't wait to see. 548 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: When we look At, purdue and you, know winners are 549 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: four straight, now and a couple of those are really. 550 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: IMPRESSIVE i, think you, know obviously going To nebraska's. BIG 551 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: i think going To iowa and winning that game, is 552 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: and especially in the fashion in which they did, IT 553 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: i Think iowa can be, dangerous especially on the. Road 554 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: SO i think that's kind of a, sneaky really good 555 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: win that people don't give them enough credit. For but 556 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: they had the three game losing, skid you, know with 557 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: With ILLINOIS ucla In indiana before getting back on the 558 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: right side of. Things, bobby what's been the difference in 559 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: terms of the, way if at, all they played in 560 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: this four game streak versus the three that preceded. 561 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 7: It that's a good. QUESTION i, MEAN i think some 562 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 7: of it has been. 563 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 6: Matchups you, know those teams that prew lost to during 564 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 6: that stretch had some things from a matchup perspective that 565 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 6: made it difficult For predude, defensively and those teams made 566 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 6: shots right like. 567 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 7: It's a make or miskame, sometimes you, Know, jake like 568 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 7: The La nois. 569 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 6: Team shot at an extremely high. Level produce phenomenal offensively 570 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 6: in their own right that. Game but it was just 571 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 6: kind of a situation Where illinois was better than perdue 572 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 6: that day from an offensive, perspective and you got to 573 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 6: tip your. Cap Keep mogler obviously with the forty six was. 574 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 6: Phenomenal that game was kind of more anomaly to, me 575 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 6: just because you, know ninety nine times out of one, 576 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 6: hundred When purdue puts up that sort of offensive performance. 577 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 7: That did that, night they're going to win that. 578 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 6: Game the other two, losses certainly from A ucla AND iu, 579 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 6: Perspective purdue just did not really shoot. 580 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 7: The ball well at. 581 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 6: All AGAINST, Iu purdue had a lot of, turnovers did 582 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 6: not Match indiana's intensity and, physicality especially in that first 583 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 6: half that played a. 584 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 7: Part Against. 585 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 6: Ucla produce shot the ball so bad from, three even 586 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 6: though they out Rebounded ucla had less turnovers THAN ucla 587 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 6: weren't able to pull that one out on the, Road 588 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 6: so it was really different factors every. GAME i, think you, 589 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 6: Know nebraska was a great sign from the standpoint Of 590 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 6: produce shot poorly from, three but did find a. 591 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 7: Way to pull out the. 592 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 6: Victory and then you, Know iowa was just kind of 593 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 6: a standpoint of prew shot the ball well but also 594 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 6: did a great job taking care of the ball and 595 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 6: dominate an eye on the. Glass that was Probably produe's 596 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 6: best forty minute effort that we've had in quite some, 597 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 6: time and that was indicative of the final. Score, so 598 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 6: like you, SAID i, went you, know it was probably 599 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 6: AN ncaa tournament, Team so to go in there and 600 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 6: win like, that it is certainly. Impressive you would Think 601 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 6: michigan is going to go there To iowa a little 602 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 6: later on this, season so it will be interesting to 603 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 6: see if i was able to pull off the upset 604 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 6: in that, one Because, perdue if they want to have 605 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 6: any chance of A Big ten, title they're going to 606 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 6: have to not only win this game, tonight but also Hope. 607 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 7: Michigan slips up in some other games the rest of the. 608 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: Way, bobby when you look At purdue over the totality 609 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: of the. 610 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: Season, okay is there a? 611 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: Complaint did? They did they fall? Victim a little bit 612 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: there to complace and? See in other, words they have 613 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: been so good for so, long and this program has 614 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: been at an elite. LEVEL i can understand why a 615 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: roster than all of a, sudden albeit, temporarily perhaps loses their, 616 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: drive loses their their, mojo so to, speak and has 617 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: to just kind of get behind closed doors and figure 618 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: some things out and maybe talk some things. 619 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: Out any chance that happened With. Purdue, OH i don't. 620 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: KNOW i, mean that's certainly an interesting. Question it's it's 621 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 6: one where it's hard to know for, sure just Because 622 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 6: i'm not in that locker room and you, know not 623 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 6: part of the, team and you, know each. 624 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 7: Guy's, differently, right each guy's, different. 625 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 6: Right you, know they all handle the, ends the ups 626 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 6: and downs of the, season the ins and outs in 627 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 6: their own for more. FASHION i do think there could 628 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 6: be some validity to the fact that you, know these 629 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 6: guys have you, know the three seniors in particular FOR 630 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 6: preu that have been there a long, Time Braden, smith Trick, 631 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 6: Off Renflat. LAWYER i, mean the team's going to go 632 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 6: as they, go. RIGHT i, mean they're the guys that 633 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 6: are the highest usage, offensively they're the team, leaders they 634 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 6: play the most minutes still on and so. Forth those 635 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 6: guys have played a lot of college basketball, Games they've 636 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 6: played a lot of big. Games you, know it's probably 637 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 6: not far fetch to think that they're not always going 638 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 6: to have their, absolute you, know a game from a 639 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 6: focused and attention to detail every. Night and you, know 640 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 6: maybe that could have been a part of some of 641 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 6: the issues With purdue during that downstretches those. Guys you, 642 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 6: KNOW i certainly think in The indiana, game those guys 643 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 6: didn't bring it to the best of their capability that. 644 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 6: Night and that's what can happen in this, league, right 645 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 6: especially against an our tribal on the. Road if you're 646 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 6: not hooked, up ready to, go then you, know you 647 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 6: could end up taking a. Loft AND i think a 648 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 6: lot of the rest of the team is going to 649 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 6: take their lead from what those guys, Do, Right they're 650 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 6: going to look to those guys to, lead and they're going. 651 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 7: To follow in their footsteps more often than. 652 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 6: Not and so, yeah certainly a lot of the pressure 653 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 6: and a lot of the responsibility falls on their, shoulders 654 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,959 Speaker 6: and you know that certainly could be part of what 655 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 6: maybe led to some of those, struggles but it's hard to, 656 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 6: know Right sometimes guys just have an off, game or 657 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 6: maybe they you, know had a tough test or something 658 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 6: that day and had other things on their. Mind you 659 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 6: just never know what these college players are going through 660 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 6: day and day. 661 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 2: Out that's the voice Of Bobby. 662 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: Riddell you will hear him on the broadcast tonight Between 663 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: purdue And. Michigan bobby is on The Java House colbrew guest. 664 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 5: Line of. 665 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: Course just a reminder download The Java house. App you 666 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: can order your beverages or food at any of their 667 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: cafes ahead of. 668 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: Time use the Code. 669 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Jake twenty five for twenty five percent off your beverage 670 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: on the app. Itself, bobby when you look At Trey 671 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: kaufman W, rehn, WELL i think the world Of Trey. 672 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: Kaupman renn is a, player AND i don't know him 673 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: as a young, man but, seemingly you, know is a 674 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: team first. Guy AND i say that because he is 675 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: one player that probably a lot of places would be 676 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: the straw mixing the. Drink but seemingly he has always 677 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: been willing and able to do whatever role it is 678 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: That Matt painter And purdue. Need but With Oscar kluff, 679 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: there it seemed as though that threw him off kilter 680 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: just a little bit and he had to kind of 681 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: readjust or reacclimate what exactly his role is or re 682 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: understand his role this, year and that has led to 683 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: some dip and then crest again an. Inconsistency is that 684 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: a fair assessment Of Trey Kaufman. 685 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 7: Rehn, YEAH i think that's totally. 686 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 6: FAIR i think it's been a huge adjustment for him this, 687 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 6: year probably you, know the guy on this team that's 688 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 6: had to go through the biggest adjustment of anybody compared 689 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 6: to how things went last. Season last, year he was 690 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 6: in a position that allowed for substantial usage. 691 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 7: On the offensive. End he was in a position where 692 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 7: he was put in a lot of positive. 693 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 6: Positions to score in the basketball considering How purdue played 694 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 6: offensively with the other players around, Him and like you, 695 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 6: said all of a, sudden you throw In Oscar cluff 696 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 6: And Daniel jacobson into the, fold and those guys are 697 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 6: playing the center position Alongside trey the majority of the, 698 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 6: game game in and game, out And neither one of 699 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 6: those guys are elite three point shooters or even three 700 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 6: point shooters in. General Daniel jacobson's been able to step 701 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 6: out and make a couple this, year But Oscar cluff 702 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 6: yet to even make a three point field. Goal, so, 703 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 6: yes those guys aren't going to provide the same four 704 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 6: spacing for a guy like tre Koffin ren that he 705 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 6: got out a lot of times last, year and so 706 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 6: there's just gonna be less, space lesser, maneuver less opportunity 707 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 6: for him to kind of show off his offensive. Package and, 708 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 6: yes that's led to a substantial decrease in scoring for 709 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 6: him this, year but he's also been able to flourish 710 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 6: more on the rebounding, perspective playing that power forward position 711 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 6: where he's not being able to not having to bang 712 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 6: with other centers on opposing teams where more often than 713 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 6: not he wasn't put in a great rebounding position because. 714 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 7: He was more often than not just kind of. 715 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 6: Fighting for his, life trying to hold that maybe bigger 716 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 6: guy off the glass and allowing their teammates to kind 717 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 6: of swoop in there and grab rebounds while he's just 718 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 6: trying to do everything he can to keep that other 719 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 6: bigger guy from getting in good rebounding. Position SO i 720 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 6: think he's done a good job for the most part 721 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 6: transitioning to that new rule where maybe he's more of a. Facilitator, 722 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 6: obviously defense is also now that he's much more established 723 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 6: as a score coming into this, SEASON i think defenses 724 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 6: coming into each. 725 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 7: Game are more aware of him and are throwing more 726 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 7: attention at. 727 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 6: HIM i, mean it's pretty rare that Tray Coffin wren 728 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 6: gets in isolation on the block and doesn't have multiple 729 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 6: players on the other team coming in his. 730 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 7: Direction they're from like a. 731 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 6: True double team, standpoint or maybe from kind of a 732 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 6: scrape down or cover down. 733 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 7: Standpoint you, know last year it did feel like he got. 734 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 6: More one on one, opportunities AND i think maybe that 735 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 6: was just because he wasn't nearly as established as a, 736 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 6: scorer and so for this year for him buying into 737 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 6: that facilitation. 738 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 7: Role that rebounding. 739 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 6: ROLE i saw a cliff on social media where it 740 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 6: was a picture of him with blonde hair and it 741 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 6: Said Trey Rodman wren Like Dennis. ROBIN i thought that 742 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 6: was pretty. AWESOME i was, like, MAN i wouldn't mind 743 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 6: SEEING tk with a blonde haired, look maybe some colorful 744 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 6: swirls in his hair Like Dennis robin. 745 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 7: Had once upon a. 746 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 6: Time so, YEAH i think it's been great to see, 747 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 6: him you, know just throughout the season of that. Role 748 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 6: there's certainly been ups and downs with. It but, man 749 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 6: he's been rebounding like a maniac here in these last 750 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 6: couple of, games hasn't? 751 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: He he, Has and again there are TIMES i think 752 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: he just he almost like stepped aside and just, said 753 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: you know, What, okay this is going to be my role. 754 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: Now you, know If i'm not the low block option 755 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: one scoring, wise even though he certainly has been and 756 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: can be from game to, GAME i JUST i think 757 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: he kind of had to figure out also now read 758 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: if you, will to having a dominant space filling big alongside. 759 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: Him but we'll see what happens tonight because he's gonna 760 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: have his hands, full because there's a lot of size 761 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: For michigan and Again Michigan purdue, tonight number One wolverines 762 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: and number Seven perdue At mackie and maybe a little 763 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: bit of growing tension Between Dusty May Matt painter. 764 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 2: Rivalry there a lot to watch. 765 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: For are gonna be fun and listen to And bobby 766 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: will be on the call after he joins. Us now 767 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: on The Java House Cold brew guest, Line bobby appreciate 768 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: the time as. 769 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 7: Always, yeah, Thanks, jake appreciate you having. Me should be 770 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 7: an awesome. 771 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,959 Speaker 6: Night for the first time a number one right team 772 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 6: in the country's coming To mackie Since Coach painter has 773 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 6: been at The, helm so. 774 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 7: It should be a lot of. 775 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 6: FUN i know the place is going to be, rocking 776 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 6: SO i hope everybody enjoys a great. 777 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: Game hope the paint crew spends plenty of time At 778 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: harry's ahead of time and gets the place amped up 779 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: and blows the roof Off. Mackie that's one of the 780 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: things that we will look for tonight we come. BACK 781 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: i mentioned there was something that took place Over Valentine's 782 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: day that made me think about like just where things are. 783 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: Culturally i'll explain What i'm talking about on the other, 784 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: SIDE i had two epiphanal brain droppings over the course 785 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: of the extra day, off one of Which i'll get to, 786 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: later but the other one this AND i have mentioned 787 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: this thought process, before BUT i think it was more 788 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: accentuated and cemented to me with the following incident or 789 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: event that took place for me over the long. Weekend 790 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: Valentine's day Was. Saturday, Correct, yes So saturday we went 791 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: to and by the, way it was very cool The 792 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: Dorman Street, pub which is over off Of Ninth. 793 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 2: Street very, cool older. 794 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: Bar still has bullet holes on the wall From John 795 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: dillinger shootout, allegedly but a super cool. Place And i'm 796 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: embarrassed to SAY i had never been there. Before and 797 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: we went in On saturday. Night it was a cool 798 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: place and enjoyed being, there but didn't do anything overly 799 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: extravagant For Valentine's, day except for On Sunday shannon saw 800 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: and this was a cool. THING i, Thought she's, like, 801 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: hey this would be. Fun let's go to the movies 802 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: because AND i believe it or, not and this is. 803 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: Kind of. 804 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: Stunning i'd never seen this. Movie but for the fortieth 805 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: anniversary of the release Of pretty In, pink which came 806 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: out forty years ago this, week they were showing it 807 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: at the movie. Theater one of THE amc theaters was 808 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: Showing pretty In pink in the theater just as if 809 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: it was a first run. Deal And shannon, said let's 810 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,959 Speaker 1: go to the movies and go See pretty In. PINK 811 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: i had never seen. It i've, seen obviously all the 812 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: other Rat pack, movies never seen that. One That Ducky 813 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: fella is rather. Annoying AND i think you can probably 814 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: tell where someone was in high school based on their 815 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: tolerance level Of. 816 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 2: Ducky BUT i. 817 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: Digress it is hard to believe that that movie is 818 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: forty years old and time does fly and Father time is. 819 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: Undefeated but. 820 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: This is what AND i have made mention of this, 821 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: before but now it was further cemented in my mind 822 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: to the point THAT i have always by Which i've 823 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: always been Fascinated. Eddie i'm going to assume that you 824 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: have never Seen pretty In. 825 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 3: Pink, correct that's a good. Assumption. 826 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: Okay have you Seen The Breakfast? 827 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 3: Club? 828 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 2: Nope Sixteen candles. 829 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: Nope, okay you're not helping me, Here Ferris Bueler's Day, Off. 830 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: Nope you honestly have never seen any of those? 831 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: Movies, NO i have. Not are you familiar with? 832 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 5: Them? 833 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: Familiar? Yes HAVE i seen? 834 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 5: Them? 835 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 8: No? 836 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 2: Vacation what? Vacation Which Heavy? 837 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 5: Chase? 838 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: No, Okay, Well i'm gonna take you out of the 839 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: equation of What i'm about to say, here because that 840 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: just busted my whole. Theory let me ask you. This 841 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: are you familiar with any of these? Songs? Okay are 842 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: you familiar with let me just give you a couple of, 843 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 1: songs and you tell me if you've. 844 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 2: Ever heard them? 845 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 3: Before? 846 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 2: Okay or? 847 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: Artists say you say me by a lot Of. Richie, 848 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: no say you say me say? It we're always, okay 849 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: walk like An? Egyptian, maybe. 850 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: Walk like In? Egyptian now, okay how WILL i know 851 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: By Whitney? 852 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 1: Houston, yes let me think of another one Here alive 853 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: and kicking by Simple, Minds alive In. Kicking, no have 854 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: you left the house? Before, Yes so we're gonna Take 855 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: eddie out of the. Equation maybe actually you're making my 856 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: point to the. Contrary maybe you're proving me wrong. Here 857 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: but AS i was sitting there AND i was thinking, about, okay, 858 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: so if if that movie was, out If pretty In 859 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: pink was out forty years, ago are you familiar With Molly? 860 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: Ringwold? Yes are you familiar With MICHAEL. J? Fox? Yes 861 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,800 Speaker 2: have you Seen back to The? Future? 862 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 3: Yes. 863 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 2: Okay have you seen any of The rocky? 864 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 5: Movies? 865 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 2: No, Okay. 866 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: AS i was sitting, there And i'm watching it And 867 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: i'm looking, around And i'm, LIKE i feel, like aside From, 868 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: eddie and Maybe eddie is proving me wrong, HERE i 869 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: feel like most young people are somewhat aware of the 870 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 1: things and are still in touch, with and are still 871 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: reminded of or within grasp of things that were culturally 872 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: relevant in nineteen eighty. Six are you familiar With Prince, Yes, madonna, Yes, Genesis, 873 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: Yes Van, Halen, okay, No I'm Phil. Collins all of 874 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: those things were big in nineteen eighty. 875 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 3: SIX i was named After Eddie viniel and NOW i, Know, 876 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 3: okay just reminding. 877 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: You, okay athletically, speaking sports, wise you familiar With Dominique, 878 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: Wilkins Michael, jordan, Yep Dan, Marino John, Elway darryl Stro, 879 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: Yes Dwight. Goodin, yes those are all things that were 880 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: at their peak in nineteen eighty, six and yet they 881 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: seem to be Still i'm not going to say, modern 882 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like ancient history in nineteen eighty. 883 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: Six WHEN i was a, KID i don't ever recall 884 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: hearing routinely about movies from nineteen forty. Six AND i 885 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: realize you're coming right off of the, war and that's 886 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: a factor. Here but you, Know Perry cuomo And Bing 887 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 1: crosby and a Young Frank sinatra would have been musical 888 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: stars of nineteen forty. Six BUT i don't recall hearing 889 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: a lot of that walking into a grocery store WHEN 890 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: i was in middle. SCHOOL i don't recall seeing on 891 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: television movies like movies from the, forties the late forties 892 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: and early fifties on television WHEN i was a. Kid 893 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: yet you flipp through the channels today and routinely you 894 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: stumbled Upon back to The future or any of. Those 895 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: it's amazing to me how we reached a point where 896 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: are almost like there was this pendulum swing pop, culturally 897 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: speaking of stuff that was created that then has a 898 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: much longer shelf. Life and it's interesting because now we're 899 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: a la carte interviewing habits and maybe that will wean 900 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: things away from. It BUT i just don't remember WHEN 901 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: i was a. KID i don't remember seeing Slinging Sammy 902 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: baugh like being featured at, games or people talking, about you, 903 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: Know Dizzy dean in baseball. Games yet you routinely now 904 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: hear about still to this, Day Pete rose And Darryl 905 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: strawberry And Nolan ryan and players of that, era and 906 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: for most, people no. 907 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: Offense. 908 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: Eddie those, MOVIES i think you know there's you still 909 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: see them, referenced you hear about. Them so even if 910 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,720 Speaker 1: you haven't seen those, movies you're aware of, them, Correct, 911 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: yeah Like Ferris Bueller's Day, off you're aware Of. Yes 912 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: LIKE i don't, remember you, know WHEN i was in 913 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, SIX i didn't hear people talking, about, like you, 914 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: know getting ready to go watch A Spencer Tracy. Flick 915 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: did you Say stephen Or scott had? Won Stephen Stephen, 916 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: holder interesting story About Anthony. Richardson will get the lowdown. Next, 917 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: Okay So i'm gonna Ask Stephen, holder do we Have Steven? 918 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: Eddie Steven holder going to join us a couple minutes from? 919 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: Now is that? 920 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 5: Right? 921 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 3: Okay. 922 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: STEPHENHOLDER espn Dot com has the story About Anthony richardson 923 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: and the expectation that he will request a trade from The. 924 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: Colts this From Alec eddie's only. FRIEND i need a new. 925 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: Friend If eddie hasn't Seen Breakfast, Club Paris bueller Or, Vacation, 926 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: now this is interesting, Here, Jake i'm about ten years 927 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: older than. You i'm in my early. SIXTIES i do 928 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: remember WHEN i was a kid seeing movies that were 929 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: forty years, old et. Cetera you might be right that 930 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: our culture has undergone a. Transition maybe it happened between 931 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: my childhood and. Yours, perhaps you, KNOW i remember. It 932 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: may be actually the sitcoms that were produced in the 933 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: late sixties and early, seventies then those production houses were still, 934 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,479 Speaker 1: running and so therefore it went into, syndication and that's 935 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: what began the spinning, treadmill if you, will of cultural, 936 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: stuff because WHEN i was a kid Watching Green acres 937 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 1: Or The Brady, BUNCH i just assumed those were new 938 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: and didn't realize that WHAT i was. 939 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: Watching was ten years. 940 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: Old Stephen holder joins us now on The Java House 941 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: coldbrew guest line FROM espn Dot. Com, STEVEN i was 942 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: just talking about, this AND i want your thought on. 943 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: This you're just a little bit younger THAN. I have 944 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: you Seen i'm gonna name a few, Movies, STEVEN i 945 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: want you to tell me if you've seen. Them, okay all, 946 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: Right Baris Bueller's Day. 947 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 5: Off many years. 948 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 2: Ago, Yes, okay The Breakfast. 949 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 5: Club you know this IS i don't THINK i have 950 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 5: know what that says about, Me BUT i don't THINK 951 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 5: i did. 952 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 4: See that Movie Sixteen, CANDLES i THINK i. Did, yes, Okay, Platoon, 953 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 4: Yes Great. 954 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 2: Vacation Did Chevy Chase? Dacation yeah for. 955 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 5: Sure. 956 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 2: Okay the REASON i say, it, OKAY i. 957 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 5: Don't know where this is, going But i'm. Listening go. 958 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: Ahead so we went On sunday Night pretty In, pink which, 959 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: is you, know one of Those Moley Ringwall John hughes. 960 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 2: Brat pack movies from nineteen eighty. 961 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: Six it was the fortieth anniversary of the release Of 962 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: pretty In, pinks so that they were showing it in the, 963 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: theater and So shannon AND i go to the. MOVIE 964 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: i had never seen, it believe it or, not BUT 965 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: i was always aware of. It late in the, MOVIE 966 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: i look over And shannon is openly, weeping like like 967 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: balling her eyes, out AND i said to, her, OH 968 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: I i'm. SORRY i didn't realize you also have never 969 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: seen this. Before she looks right at me and, Says 970 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: i've seen it one hundred. 971 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 2: Times. 972 00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 1: Okay but the point BEING i and maybe maybe i'm 973 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: and so this IS i need you to be the 974 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,359 Speaker 1: judge and jury, Here. 975 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 2: Stephen, okay BECAUSE i failed miserably in Using eddie as the. 976 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: EXAMPLE i feel, like if you think about things from 977 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six and The stars of eighty, Six Dan, 978 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: Marino John, Elway Darryl, Strawberry Dwight, Gooden Dominique, Wilkins Larry, 979 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: Bird Michael, Jordan Prince, madonna The John HUGHES Movi Vacation 980 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,439 Speaker 1: platoon is eighty. Seven but you, Know Breakfast, club all those, 981 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: THINGS i feel like they still have cultural standing in 982 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, six whereas in nineteen eighty SIX i didn't 983 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: feel like it was is impactful the culture of nineteen forty, 984 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,800 Speaker 1: six AND i know that we're coming off the, war 985 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: if that Makes but does that make sense What i'm? 986 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 5: Saying, yeah you're. Saying you're saying they have had more 987 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 5: staying power than, things. 988 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 2: Than their press than their predecessors. 989 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,040 Speaker 5: Four years before. That. 990 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 2: Correct, yeah that's. 991 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 5: Well, Yeah and of, course like our perspective is is 992 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 5: going to be influenced by when we came, along, obviously 993 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 5: that's WHAT i. 994 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: Mean so maybe i'm you, know maybe a younger person 995 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: that's fifteen is, like what is this guy talking? 996 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 2: About i've never heard of any of those? 997 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 5: Things, yeah, right so, LIKE i, MEAN i don't know 998 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 5: what the hell was popular in nineteen forty. Six THANKFULLY 999 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 5: i couldn't tell. You but Fred, ASTAIRE i don't. Know 1000 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 5: maybe somebody would be, like are you? KIDDING. Freda stair 1001 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 5: was way bigger Than Michael, Jackson. 1002 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: Harry, Como Eddie, howard The Ink, Spots Frankie, Carlo Dinah, 1003 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: Shore Betty, Hutton Von, Monroe Freddie, martin and there's One 1004 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 1: Frank sinatra. 1005 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 5: Song hey if you say, so, okay, right, right, YEAH 1006 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,479 Speaker 5: i don't. Know it's. INTERESTING i think you know why 1007 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 5: because because what you what you recall from your, youth 1008 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 5: it shapes kind of your, life, right and those are formative. 1009 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 5: Years that's a big part of, IT i, think you. 1010 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 5: Know like it's it's the same argument i'd get into 1011 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 5: with my kids because they're, like, oh, WELL i, mean 1012 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 5: there's there's no bigger Than. Drake, ever there's never been 1013 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 5: anything bigger Than. Drake And i'm, like, listen shut, up 1014 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 5: or get out of my. 1015 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 2: House yeah that's, right, Okay. 1016 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 5: LIKE i lived Through Michael, jackson so you can just 1017 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 5: have a, seat, Okay like you were not allowed to 1018 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 5: speak the rest of the. Night BUT i mean that's about, perspective. 1019 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 5: Right they weren't there for the women passing out in 1020 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 5: the first row of the, concert. Right SO i don't 1021 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 5: know if any of this makes any, sense but AND 1022 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 5: i don't know if it answers your. Question but but 1023 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 5: that's that's that's the interesting part of that conversation for. 1024 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 5: Me BUT i BUT i don't, disagree. THOUGH i THINK 1025 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 5: i think those are definitely like those those movies and 1026 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 5: and those cultural. Things they shaped our lives because that's 1027 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 5: when we came along. 1028 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: Well and also feel like AND i do want to 1029 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: get To Anthony, richardson But i'll simply say, THIS i 1030 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: do feel like like WHEN i was Watching pretty In, 1031 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: PINK i guess maybe this is what made me think of. 1032 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: It even in the Movie pretty In, PINK i, mean 1033 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: they had some fashion that was very quintessential, EIGHTIES i 1034 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: mean The Miami vice type. Look but for the most, 1035 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: part the music and the fashion in the movie doesn't 1036 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: look entirely different than what you would see walking the streets. 1037 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: Today WHEREAS i feel like in nineteen forty, six the 1038 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: way everyone dressed was different than the way they dressed 1039 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty. 1040 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 5: Six that's a little where top hats that often, anymore. 1041 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 2: Right you know WHAT i, Mean and like you, know 1042 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,720 Speaker 2: the big cars and everything. 1043 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: Else it just. Was it was a very definitive. Era but, Anyway, 1044 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: STEVEN i saw a report earlier. Today yahoo had it 1045 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: and they cited you saying. That and you tell me 1046 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: if this is coming from new evidence or just the 1047 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: gut instinct Of Stephen holder That Anthony richardson is expected 1048 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: to request a. Trade tell me the latest of what you. 1049 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 5: Know, yeah so we'll have a fuller story on. This, 1050 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 5: well this is a long. Story but there's another STORY i. 1051 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 5: HAD i think we talked about this last week on the. 1052 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 5: Air we screwed up that was supposed to run last. 1053 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 5: Week it. Didn't it'll run this week, anyhow wasn't my. 1054 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 5: Fault but, anyhow On Anthony richardson that. Longer so this 1055 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 5: is coming from a piece that IS i think today 1056 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 5: that we are just, addressing like how this whole idea 1057 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 5: of let's run it back with The colts is not entirely. 1058 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 5: True and WHAT i mean by that is like the 1059 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,400 Speaker 5: roster will look potentially look very different in twenty twenty, 1060 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 5: six be it the offensive, line defensive, line you, know 1061 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 5: the rest of the defense. Generally and one of the 1062 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 5: things THAT i pointed out in that story is that 1063 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 5: quarterback there will be a likely or possibly at least 1064 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 5: they change that quarterback, too and the former first round 1065 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 5: pick And Anthony richardson might not be here next. Year, 1066 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 5: now is that me just coming from gut? Feeling? No 1067 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 5: now has he requested a trade? Yet? No, however Does 1068 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,840 Speaker 5: Anthony richardson agree that his best interests might be to be? 1069 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,439 Speaker 5: Elsewhere that is? True, okay that is, True and how 1070 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 5: do you make that happen really by virtue of a? 1071 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 5: Trade and so that feeling in his camp is kind 1072 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 5: of where that comes. From AND i mean this is 1073 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 5: not groundbreaking. OBVIOUSLY i think anybody who's followed this situation 1074 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 5: closely can look at it and probably surmise that he 1075 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 5: might want to be. Elsewhere, look they have already Determined 1076 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 5: Daniel jones is their. Quarterback they have also determined That 1077 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 5: Riley leonard is a viable backup or could be a viable. 1078 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 5: BACKUP i don't know if that decision has been made 1079 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 5: one hundred, percent but there is definitely a strong feeling 1080 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 5: toward that being. True where does that Leave Anthony? RICHARDSON 1081 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 5: i think it's very clear it leaves him with no 1082 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 5: real certain future In. 1083 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: Indianapolis when you Look stephen at the situation with the franchise, Tag, 1084 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: okay are they putting themselves in position, where especially if 1085 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: The Antony richardson's, situation if they're taking calls and they've 1086 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: moved on from, that if for some reason they're not 1087 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 1: able to immediately come to an agreement With Daniel, jones 1088 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: even though it would be forty seven point twenty four 1089 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 1: to two million franchise tag availability begins, today are they 1090 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: putting themselves in a spot where they're going to have 1091 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: to tag him if all of a sudden it seems 1092 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 1: as though he may be interested in talking to other. 1093 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 5: PEOPLE i THINK i would not rule out the franchise. 1094 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 5: TAG i don't expect it. HAPPENING i don't expect that 1095 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 5: it happens, immediately BUT i think they'll they'll, talk and 1096 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 5: you try to come to a, deal and if it's 1097 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 5: if it doesn't look like you'll get there before the 1098 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 5: franchise tag, deadline WHICH i believe is in two. 1099 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: Weeks the deadline for the franchise, tag by the, way 1100 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,240 Speaker 1: Is march. 1101 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 5: Fourth so, Yeah, Okay so THAT i think is usually 1102 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 5: about a two week win. Though so if it looks 1103 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 5: like they can't come to an, agreement or they aren't 1104 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 5: close to an agreement by That march fourth, deadline THEN 1105 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 5: i think it becomes very. Possible this would be The 1106 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 5: Michael pittman. Situation they did that a couple of years. 1107 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 5: Ago IF i recall, correctly they weren't close to a deal, 1108 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 5: yet but they had decided we're keeping, you, RIGHT i, 1109 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 5: mean that's that's the. Determination are we going to keep 1110 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 5: this player under any? Circumstance and if that answers, yes 1111 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 5: then you go ahead and you issue this the franchise 1112 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 5: tag and you keep. Negotiating it's a, placeholder is what 1113 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 5: it would. Be they don't, intend as far AS i can, 1114 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 5: tell there's no intention of having Having Daniel jones play 1115 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 5: for that forty seven million. Dollars but it is an, 1116 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 5: option and it's really a, tool is what it. Is 1117 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 5: that's what it was intended to be when they came 1118 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 5: up with the franchise. Tag really it. Was it was 1119 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 5: intended to, Be, look we want to protect this player 1120 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 5: from reaching free, agency so we want this player for 1121 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 5: the long. Term in the, answeriom it's actually at times 1122 00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 5: become a situation where players are, like, well screw, You 1123 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 5: i'm just going to take to stake this money and 1124 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 5: Then i'll see you later next. Year so but, GENERALLY 1125 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 5: i think most of the, time overwhelmingly teams use it 1126 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 5: to try to keep negotiating and try to work out a. 1127 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 5: Deal that's what you typically find with the franchise, tag 1128 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 5: and that would be the case. 1129 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 2: Here by the, Way eddie's. 1130 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: Correct four O'CLOCK pm on the third Of march is 1131 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: the deadline on franchise? Tag Is Alec pearson play at? 1132 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: All for the franchise? Tag twenty eight million is what 1133 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: it would, cost which is probably about market value the 1134 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: difference between the franchise tag Of Daniel jones Or Alec. 1135 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: Pierce if they so choose to do one of those 1136 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: two With, pierce that feels like that's about market. Value In, 1137 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,479 Speaker 1: jones you would be blatantly overpaying in the, beginning, Right 1138 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: so do they perhaps pivot that and use it On. 1139 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 1: Pierce i'm not ruling it out For. 1140 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,040 Speaker 5: Pierce let's, say if they feel good about The Daniel jones. 1141 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 5: Situation look at this is all, fluid, right so we're 1142 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 5: just talking. Hypothetically but if if they feel good about 1143 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 5: The Daniel jones. NEGOTIATIONS i don't think it's out of 1144 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 5: the question at all to use it on excuse, Me Alec. Pierce, 1145 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 5: also the same rules apply, there with the intent, being, 1146 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 5: well we're not intending for him to make the twenty 1147 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 5: eight million. DOLLARS i think you'd want to come in 1148 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 5: at a lower number On pierce, IDEALLY i don't know 1149 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 5: what the market will, bear but let's just but if 1150 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 5: you're The, colts you want that number on a long 1151 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 5: term deal to be. Lower, now the way you do 1152 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 5: that is guarantee a good bit of money and structure 1153 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 5: it in a way that's appealing to the. Player MAYBE 1154 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 5: i don't, know BUT i think the twenty eight million 1155 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 5: if he signs a long term. DEAL i don't know 1156 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 5: if that's the number on the long term. DEAL i 1157 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 5: do think it'll. Be it'll be in the twenty plus 1158 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 5: million per year, RANGE i. Believe but the reality IS 1159 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 5: i think that this is an interesting question and there's 1160 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 5: no way to know, this BUT i. WONDER i wonder 1161 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 5: if let's say both players make it to the open. 1162 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 5: Market just for, Arguments Daniel, Jones Alec, pierce who do 1163 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 5: you think more Teams, CHASE i think the answer might 1164 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 5: Be Alec. 1165 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Peerce, oh it's Definitely, pierce. 1166 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 5: RIGHT i think that's pretty, clear, RIGHT. 1167 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean The achilles changes. Everything, right did we, Lose? 1168 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: STEPHEN i guess so you must have disagreed with my 1169 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: sentiment there that The achilles changes. Everything, YES i think 1170 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:23,959 Speaker 1: when you look at. 1171 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 2: It pierce IS i do think that. 1172 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: THERE i don't know, this BUT i would assume that other, 1173 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: franchises there's a yin and yang on the value Of Daniel. 1174 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 2: Jones The. 1175 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Daniel jones value probably was increased or helped a little 1176 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: bit by What Sam darnold did in The Super, bowl showing, that, 1177 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 1: like if you get a smart veteran quarterback that can 1178 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: play within himself in a, system you can. Win And 1179 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: jones showed that he could be that. Guy but then 1180 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: you get the detriment of not only The, achilles but 1181 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: also the starting to show a little bit of coming 1182 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: back down to earth just before he got. Hurt and 1183 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: maybe that's related to the fact that he was about 1184 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 1: to get hurt or he was favoring that. Leg but to, Me, 1185 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: stephen there's no question That pierce would be the guy 1186 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: that has more transcendent value across the league and as 1187 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 1: a guy that could plug in, anywhere Whereas jones you 1188 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: got to it's kind of a system, thing. 1189 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 5: Right, well not only, that but also if you're Signing Daniel, 1190 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 5: jones you're committing to a degree To Daniel, jones at 1191 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 5: least for the short, term. RIGHT i, mean if you 1192 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 5: go sign, him for if you were interested in Signing 1193 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 5: Daniel jones as an outside, suitor you're talking about having 1194 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 5: to pay thirty plus million a, year even if it's one. 1195 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 5: Year SO i mean that comes with a certain level 1196 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 5: of commitment that tells you he's your starting. Quarterback And 1197 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,120 Speaker 5: i'm not saying that wouldn't be a good move for some. 1198 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 5: Teams it probably would be an upgrade for many. Teams the, question, 1199 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 5: though is the. Injury you, know there's also the history with. 1200 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 5: Him are you a? BELIEVER i happen to, Be but 1201 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 5: what if you're not right and you have to truly 1202 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 5: have a lot of, conviction you, know and the injury 1203 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 5: is really a big thing for. Me you, know the 1204 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 5: optics of signing a guy when an outside team signing 1205 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 5: this guy for thirty five million just throw out a 1206 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 5: number right with a Bum, achilles, like you've got to 1207 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 5: have real good job security to do. That, okay it's 1208 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 5: different than The colts who have had success with, him 1209 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 5: are comfortable with, him he wants to be there all 1210 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 5: of those. Things it's a much different situation with him 1211 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 5: re signing with The. COLTS i think so, anyway With Ale, 1212 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 5: PEARCE i MEAN i, envision for, example if he gets 1213 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 5: the free, AGENCY i Think Josh allen is blowing Up 1214 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 5: brandon being their GM's phone and saying you better do. 1215 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,200 Speaker 5: It you know that kind of, thing like HE'S i 1216 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,800 Speaker 5: think he's that kind of guy who could be a 1217 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 5: game changer for teams out. 1218 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 2: There what do you perceive. 1219 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Is the market value For like if The culture going 1220 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 1: to Sign Daniel jones right, now let's say it's a 1221 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: three year, deal what's the per what's he going to 1222 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 1: make per? 1223 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 5: You, YEAH i mean a lot of people have told 1224 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 5: me and it's a, speculation but smart people have The 1225 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,280 Speaker 5: Baker mayfield. TEMPLATE i think you have to add some 1226 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 5: money because every year the cap goes, Up so so 1227 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 5: a contract from three years ago is no longer, applicable 1228 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 5: or a couple of years, ago a contract from two 1229 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 5: years ago is not applicable in twenty twenty. Six but 1230 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 5: just as this as a, BASELINE i, think If i'm not, 1231 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 5: Mistaken baker got what three years ninety, plus. 1232 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 2: It was like thirty three year maybe thirty two. 1233 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 5: Thirty three, ish, RIGHT i think it was actually plos 1234 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 5: to one hundred, Totals so that's about. RIGHT i think 1235 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 5: you've got to add maybe like A i don't, know 1236 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 5: five or ten, percent you, know. ADDITIONAL i mean that's 1237 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 5: just because the cap. 1238 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Still well under what it could cost to tag, him 1239 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 1: but still a healthy sum For Daniel. 1240 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 2: Jones steve that the, Money, yeah. 1241 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Let Me And i've been curious of this AND i 1242 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: don't know this. Answer THUS i will defer to. You Steven, 1243 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: holder my guest by the, Way Java House colbrew guest. 1244 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 2: Line use the app For Java. 1245 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 1: House by the, way download The Java house app and 1246 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: you can order your beverages and food ahead of time 1247 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 1: before you go into one of their. Cafes Use jake 1248 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 1: twenty five or twenty five percent, Off stephen can the 1249 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: can The colts use the tag twice in the same. 1250 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 1: Cycle in other, words if they franchise Tag Daniel jones 1251 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: and then two days Later Daniel jones, says you know, 1252 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: WHAT i love it. HERE i want to sign and 1253 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 1: they come to an, agreement can they lift the tag 1254 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: off of, them and as long as it is Before march, 1255 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 1: third then reassign the tag To Alec. 1256 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 5: Pierce, no you you can rescind the, tag but you 1257 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 5: cannot reissue the. Tag, now there is also something that 1258 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,640 Speaker 5: we rarely talk. About there is The transition. Tag it's 1259 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 5: almost never, used but every blamoon a player does use 1260 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 5: a team does use the transition. Tag and the way it, 1261 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 5: works it's a little bit lower salary and it's still 1262 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 5: though gives the team the right of first. REFUSAL a 1263 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 5: player can go out there and get an offer. Sheet 1264 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 5: but there are some differences in the, rules and it's 1265 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 5: been so long since it's been used THAT i am 1266 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 5: blinking on the. Differences but you do have two tags 1267 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 5: at your. Disposal there is the franchise tag and the transition. 1268 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 5: Tag the protections with the transition tag are not as, 1269 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 5: good but it is useful from time to. 1270 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: Time, okay so that's where and now last question would 1271 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,440 Speaker 1: be about. This you think they'll use the tag at? 1272 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 3: All SO. 1273 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 5: I think the odds are much higher this year than 1274 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 5: they've ever been for The colts because you have two 1275 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 5: players in play who really are you could really justify. 1276 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 5: IT i Think Alec, pierce if they're serious about Keeping Alec, 1277 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 5: PIERCE i think you do. IT i think With Daniel, 1278 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 5: JONES i worry less About Daniel. JONES i know That 1279 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 5: shane stiking for, him Like Alec pearce is, everything like 1280 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 5: he understands that they can't let this guy walk out the. 1281 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 2: Door. 1282 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 5: Now WHAT i will tell, you, though is that as 1283 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 5: of recent, week certainly when the season, ended there was 1284 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 5: no momentum toward a new, deal like. None BUT i 1285 01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 5: am going to assume that that was Just Chris ballard 1286 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 5: Doing Chris ballard, things which is to kind of wait 1287 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 5: till the eleventh hour and let it play. Out he 1288 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 5: doesn't tend to jump up and just hand the money out. 1289 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 5: Early he does tend to wait till the last, minute 1290 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 5: which maybe that's when you get the best. DEAL i don't, 1291 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 5: know BUT i do think because of the Way Chris 1292 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 5: ballard handles these big, negotiations it does increase the likelihood 1293 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 5: that you'll have to use the tag because you're going 1294 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 5: to probably wait till the last. 1295 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: Minute, Okay steve AND i want you to think about. 1296 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: This you're not driving anywhere right, now are. 1297 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 2: You i'm not okayoduse that. 1298 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Need you to close your. EYES i don't want you 1299 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: to do. That if you're, DRIVING i want you to 1300 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 1: close your. 1301 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 2: Eyes. 1302 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Okay now we're talking right here in the middle Of 1303 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 1: february twenty twenty, six BUT i want you to imagine 1304 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: it Is november of twenty twenty. Six it is seven 1305 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: months from. Now AND espn comes to you and they, Say, 1306 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 1: Steven Anthony richardson is got a couple of games under his. 1307 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: Belt he's played pretty well here as a starter in 1308 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 1: his new. Home he has a new franchise he's been 1309 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 1: playing for and for whatever, reason whether he was handed 1310 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:56,919 Speaker 1: the keys in the beginning. 1311 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 2: Or whatever, else he's playing. 1312 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Well In, november and you're getting set For, thanksgiving AND 1313 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: espn is going to send you To Anthony Richardson stadium 1314 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: to do a game for. Him And Anthony richardson sees 1315 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: you there and, Says Steven holder a long, time been 1316 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: good to see you. Again it makes me feel at home. 1317 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Again And Anthony richardson says to, You, Steven i'd like 1318 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 1: to take you to dinner, tonight AND i want to 1319 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 1: make sure Because i'm trying to become a part of 1320 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: my new, environment my new. City i'm a part of. 1321 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: It and So i'm going to take you out and 1322 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna enjoy cuisine that is indigenous to the city 1323 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,600 Speaker 1: of WHICH i now. Play based on, That, steven you 1324 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 1: are enjoying what? 1325 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 2: Food? 1326 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:44,680 Speaker 5: Wow all, right let's. SEE I i, think, well so all, 1327 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 5: right let's do it this. Way what do they like 1328 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 5: to eat In, scottsdale tex Mex? TACOS i don't, Know. 1329 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,759 Speaker 1: Like that's a good that seems like a foody, place 1330 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't it Doesn't scottsdale seem like it's a bunch of 1331 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,599 Speaker 1: people that are, like you, know good good. 1332 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,520 Speaker 5: Steakhouses, yeah that's probably, probably but. 1333 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 9: But general indigenous To. Arizona that's the, problem, Right that's 1334 01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 9: WHAT i was gonna. Say everybody moved there unless you're Like. 1335 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 9: Navajo SO i, MEAN i don't, know AND i don't 1336 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 9: know what they, eat AND i don't know what the 1337 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,520 Speaker 9: Latest navajo restaurant is The navajo restaurant. 1338 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 2: Is but, Anyhow i'm not even gonna make a joke 1339 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 2: about how you need. 1340 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 5: Reservation, no you, Know, okay, LOOK i DON'T i don't 1341 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 5: know anything specific about what's going on In arizona right. Now, 1342 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 5: okay let me be clear about. That BUT I i 1343 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,599 Speaker 5: think when you when you look at landing spots For Anthony, 1344 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,120 Speaker 5: richardson if if there was a deal, made or even 1345 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,280 Speaker 5: if he was released or whatever the case might, be 1346 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 5: if he ends up somewhere, ELSE i think when you 1347 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 5: look at landing, SPOTS i would, say it's got to 1348 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 5: be a team that's in quarterback, transition you. Know and 1349 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 5: of course we still haven't gotten to the, draft which 1350 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 5: is WHY i suspect this could happen around draft, time, 1351 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 5: right because teams will then know their quarterback. Situation on 1352 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,640 Speaker 5: the other, hand and who's even in the draft this? 1353 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 5: Year right this is a week quarterback. Draft AND i 1354 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 5: don't know that free agency is going to help you much, 1355 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,839 Speaker 5: Either so it might actually play well into his hands 1356 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 5: to be available this, offseason just because there are not 1357 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,639 Speaker 5: that many paths to getting. 1358 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 1: Viable so Is arizona basically just completely punting On Kyler? 1359 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 5: MURRAY i mean it feels like. IT i don't, know 1360 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 5: BUT i don't know that this is the right time 1361 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,200 Speaker 5: to do. That that's the, problem you. KNOW i would 1362 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 5: say they certainly never want anything With Kyler. 1363 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 3: Murray what about a juicy? LUCY a juicy? 1364 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 2: Lucy, Yeah i'm trying to think of where Juicy lucy. 1365 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 3: Is isn't that like the famous burger In? Minneapolis you Know. 1366 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 1: Minneapolis my favorite place is a place Called Joe's garage 1367 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: and it's closed, now so you, know In minneapolis they 1368 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 1: have WHAT i WOULD i actually knew somebody From minneapolis 1369 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: that would make tortillas with butter and then sugar on, 1370 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 1: top and it's like A NORDIC i don't know what that's, 1371 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 1: called but it's like A nordic. Dessert but that would 1372 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 1: be also if The Juicy lucy is, it that would 1373 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: also be a possible A mall Of america food court 1374 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 1: dining experience With Anthony, richardson that would be a possibility. 1375 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 5: Exactly, now if that doesn't get you In, MINNEAPOLIS i 1376 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,599 Speaker 5: don't know what. Will, okay, RIGHT i would say that 1377 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 5: actually is also you, know a possible. Destination just you, 1378 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,559 Speaker 5: know off top of my, head we know That kevin, 1379 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 5: O'Connell you, know had definitely had some admiration For Anthony. 1380 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:34,879 Speaker 5: RICHARDSON i will tell you before Before richardson was drafted 1381 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 5: the teams THAT i think were the most interested in, 1382 01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 5: him BECAUSE i, WAS i was getting pretty good intel 1383 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,639 Speaker 5: On richardson's. Situation the teams that were the most interested 1384 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 5: In Anthony richardson before he was drafted would BE i 1385 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 5: think The, colts The seahawks they don't need them, now The, 1386 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 5: vikings The, titans and that's probably the main suitors when 1387 01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:59,759 Speaker 5: he was but those are the main ones. 1388 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,080 Speaker 1: When he was, Selected, stephen from what you could tell 1389 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:05,679 Speaker 1: from other, teams and by the, way, yes the Juicy 1390 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 1: lucy looks. Fabulous by the, Way minnesota born and cheeseburger 1391 01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 1: with cheese sealed inside the beef patty rather than on, 1392 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:15,520 Speaker 1: top resulting in a molten core that actually looks, Fabulous, 1393 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Stephen When Anthony richardson was, selected do you think that 1394 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 1: league wide the perception was we would have done the same, 1395 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 1: thing or do you think league wide the perception, was 1396 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 1: what Is indianapolis doing that guy's a third? 1397 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 5: ROUNDER i think there was a big, Split, okay big, 1398 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 5: split AND i think there were a lot of people 1399 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 5: who were, like we get, it we get, it AND 1400 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 5: i think there were a lot of other people AND 1401 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,600 Speaker 5: i heard from, both so there were a lot of 1402 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 5: other people who were, like we would never AND i 1403 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 5: just think it just it really just depends on your. 1404 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 5: Situation and The colt situation was, unique. Right it was 1405 01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 5: they had gone the other route in terms of you, 1406 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,080 Speaker 5: know retread. Quarterbacks they've done it over and over and. 1407 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 5: Over and you also had you, know people who will 1408 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 5: criticize that pick have to take the context into consideration 1409 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,760 Speaker 5: and what is part of that. Context you had an 1410 01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 5: owner In Jie merce he was, like we are getting 1411 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 5: off of this, carousel get me a. Quarterback And i'm 1412 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 5: not even criticizing. It you, know may you rest in. 1413 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,640 Speaker 5: Peace it is not a criticism of that of that 1414 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 5: stance BECAUSE i mean he had seen enough of, it, 1415 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 5: Right and of course we all, agree, Okay SO i 1416 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,400 Speaker 5: mean we're talking about What Philip, Rivers Carson, Wentz Matt. 1417 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 5: RYAN i, mean at some point it had to, stop, 1418 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 5: Right SO i think there was an understanding in the 1419 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 5: organization that this has to stop and we got to 1420 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 5: try something. Else SO i think even those who have 1421 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:46,679 Speaker 5: criticism for that pick and maybe didn't believe In Anthony, 1422 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,599 Speaker 5: richardson you would also at least have to, admit, okay, 1423 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 5: well their circumstances were. Unique and it was a chance 1424 01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 5: they had to, take SO i think that's just the 1425 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 5: reality of. 1426 01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 1: It, lefsa by the, way is The norwegian delicacy THAT i. 1427 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Enjoyed it was basically, tortilla although it's more like a 1428 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,759 Speaker 1: potato based thing with butter on it and then sugar 1429 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:06,920 Speaker 1: and then you roll that bad boy. 1430 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 2: Up is actually pretty, Good. 1431 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,640 Speaker 1: Steven we will keep an eye on The Anthony richardson 1432 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 1: saga as well as the franchise tag by following what 1433 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: you're doing AT espn dot com and in the, meantime 1434 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: enjoy Watching pretty In pink later. 1435 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 5: Tonight that a great. Night there you. 1436 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 2: Go that was My. 1437 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Sunday i'm telling you it was a decent. Movie, actually 1438 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 1: can't Believe i've never seen it. Before we come. Back 1439 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 1: one of the biggest names in, basketball at least of 1440 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,080 Speaker 1: recent ilk in THE nba has spoken regarding, tanking and 1441 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:42,960 Speaker 1: one thing THAT i said about it from the get 1442 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 1: go turned out to be. 1443 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 2: True we'll get into all of that. 1444 01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Next tanking has become a big theme in THE. Nba 1445 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: Good Afternoons, you by the, way my name Is Jake. 1446 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Cordy Eddie. 1447 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: Garrison the other voice you hear in this Program Corey 1448 01:14:56,200 --> 01:15:00,479 Speaker 1: cony on the. Fan thank you To Klusch truck for 1449 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 1: bringing by lunch A Cheeseca city excellent as, always but in, 1450 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: hand you open that bag up and it is hot and. 1451 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: Fresh right, There, eddie what'd you go with? Today The 1452 01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:13,160 Speaker 1: korean barbecue salmon with the huge. Fan, oh it's so, 1453 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 1: good it's so. 1454 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 3: Good usee coude big fan to get five hours off 1455 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 3: you order twenty five or, more and right now if 1456 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 3: you're a Big Red velvet, person or if, not if 1457 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 3: you just like supporting a good. Cause each time somebody 1458 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 3: purchases A Red velvet, cookie a dollar goes To Riley Children's. Hospital. 1459 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 3: Wonderful so, Yes AND i think they're expanding, Too. 1460 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 1: Jake they. Are they have a new cluster truck opening 1461 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 1: up Next, Friday is that? 1462 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 5: Right? 1463 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah and caramel in The karmel. 1464 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Location and again that means that any time you buy, 1465 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 1: it it is made at a kitchen right near you 1466 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 1: and then delivered right to, you and they don't start 1467 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 1: making it until you order, it all. Right Mark, cuban, 1468 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: who of course we talked with backing the last week 1469 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 1: About Mark cuban probably not going to buy back totally 1470 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 1: into The. 1471 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:05,320 Speaker 2: Mavericks but. 1472 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 1: When Mark cuban speaks regarding THE, nba you know you're 1473 01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:15,600 Speaker 1: gonna listen because of his affiliation and just his overall 1474 01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,200 Speaker 1: business savvy in. General he had the following to say about. 1475 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 1: Tanking AND i Have, eddie And i'm going to give 1476 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: you my solution on, this and THEN i want you 1477 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: to judge my. Solution but here's What Mark cuban. Said 1478 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 1: THE nba has been misguided thinking that fans want to 1479 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: see their teams compete every night with a chance to. 1480 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,000 Speaker 2: Win it's never been that. 1481 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Way WHEN i got into THE, nba they thought they 1482 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 1: were in the basketball. Business college, basketball, then he. Says 1483 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: he goes on to say college basketball players are. Pros 1484 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 1: they are paid for performance more than. Potential so while 1485 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,960 Speaker 1: THE nba values younger players who will continue to, develop 1486 01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: they are now playing against, bigger, better higher basketball BALL iq. 1487 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Players because and, then AND i Didn't you didn't send 1488 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,920 Speaker 1: the rest of what he had to. Say i'll look 1489 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 1: it up. Here you sent me a couple of things 1490 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,640 Speaker 1: On Mark, cuban BUT i just realized that HIS i probably. 1491 01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 2: Should have looked at. 1492 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,920 Speaker 1: That, sorry his conversation goes beyond what was. Said, okay 1493 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 1: a team is only going to tank if they aren't 1494 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 1: good enough to begin. With players that are on the 1495 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 1: court are going to play harder because they have the 1496 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 1: most to prove and want to earn a. Contract THE 1497 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 1: nba should embrace, tanking because he, says when it comes 1498 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:42,520 Speaker 1: down to it, again players are pros at that, point 1499 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,760 Speaker 1: and they already basically are ready to. 1500 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 5: Play. 1501 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,360 Speaker 1: Now basically what he is saying, is, look the reality, 1502 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,600 Speaker 1: is if your team is, terrible then fans are not 1503 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 1: going to be balking about tanking because there are immediately 1504 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 1: ready to play players that are. Available collegiately, SPEAKING i, 1505 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,840 Speaker 1: think AND i go back to you, know there are 1506 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 1: reports out now That Adam silver's comments and statements and 1507 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,600 Speaker 1: the rules that he has put out or the discipline 1508 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,799 Speaker 1: that he has, issued notably To indiana And utah regarding 1509 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 1: tanking is based on pressure from gambling. Partners, well look 1510 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:29,439 Speaker 1: at the big brain On. Jake that wasn't hard to figure. 1511 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Out that was, literally, like you, know Mister green was 1512 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: just hanging around the study and for some reason was 1513 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: carrying with them a candle in the middle of the. 1514 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 1: Daytime on a. Candlestick it was the easiest thing in 1515 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 1: the world to figure out that connection that THE nba 1516 01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: wanted to preserve the integrity of your gambling wagers on 1517 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: any of the, apps because they're in bed with all of, 1518 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,800 Speaker 1: them and they want to make sure that when you're 1519 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: betting the over under and when you're betting a prop 1520 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 1: bet on a player or whatever, else that you are 1521 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 1: that the most effort is being put in to make 1522 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 1: sure the integrity of your. Wager BUT i think the 1523 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,559 Speaker 1: answer is, simple And, eddie you rate me on, this. 1524 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,360 Speaker 1: Okay And i'm going loosely on what someone said to 1525 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 1: me as a. Solution AND i took that and then 1526 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,960 Speaker 1: just stood about it and, thought, basically this is WHAT 1527 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 1: i came up. With AND i understand there's no perfect. 1528 01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,920 Speaker 1: SYSTEM i understand that there would be teams that would 1529 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,639 Speaker 1: complain about the way the scheduling is set up or 1530 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: favoring or whatever else if you do it this. Way 1531 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,599 Speaker 1: but in a non perfect, world here's my as close 1532 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 1: as possible to perfection solution THAT i could come up. 1533 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 8: With, Okay i'm ready lay it on. Me we'll go 1534 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 8: With march the. First, okay On march the, first you 1535 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 8: take THE nba, standings can you, say, okay in THE nba, 1536 01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 8: standings we are get to take the bottom six. Teams 1537 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,840 Speaker 8: so the bottom six right now would be what it 1538 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 8: would BE, indi in no particular, Order, Indiana, sacramento. 1539 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 3: It would Be, Sacramento, Washington New, Orleans, Indiana, Brooklyn. 1540 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,880 Speaker 1: Utah, Okay so you take those six teams and you, 1541 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 1: say these are the six teams that are eligible for 1542 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 1: the top six picks in the, draft these six and 1543 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 1: only these. Six. Okay, now what we're going to do 1544 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 1: is Beginning march, first we are then going to redo, 1545 01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,679 Speaker 1: it and we're going to rank your record Between march 1546 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,639 Speaker 1: first and the close of the season in the final 1547 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 1: twenty five or so, games and whoever has the best 1548 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: record amongst those six teams gets the top. 1549 01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 2: Pick in the. 1550 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,280 Speaker 3: DRAFT i still don't think that's. 1551 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 2: Fair Why. 1552 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 3: Like pacers, example right, now look how it depleted they 1553 01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,800 Speaker 3: are injury. Wise, okay they're not gonna win a ton 1554 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,960 Speaker 3: of games because they don't have guys that are. Healthy 1555 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 3: so you're still Not they're nine to nine in their 1556 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,320 Speaker 3: last eighteen. Games, YEAH i understand, that but you're also 1557 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 3: looking at a at a window here where they've played 1558 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 3: games against teams that are also in the. Tank off 1559 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,559 Speaker 3: and they've won a couple of games. There they've also 1560 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 3: stolen a couple of games Again Stilima city and The 1561 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 3: New York. Knicks but if you get a team like Even, 1562 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 3: washington for, example they don't Have Anthony, damas they don't 1563 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:33,679 Speaker 3: Have Alex, lard they don't Have Trey, young all three guys. 1564 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 3: Injured so you're telling me that they should be negatively 1565 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,559 Speaker 3: penalized for having guys that are. 1566 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Actually Anthony davis AND i don't is HE i don't 1567 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,320 Speaker 1: remember the extent of his. 1568 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 2: Injury is he legitimately out for the air? Injured? Yes either? 1569 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Way to, me that is the that's the best solution because, yeah, 1570 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 1: sure maybe maybe you don't win those, games, okay but 1571 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 1: at least team fans are showing up knowing that if they, 1572 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,559 Speaker 1: are if they bought a ticket for A may first 1573 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:11,080 Speaker 1: game Between utah And, washington that there's something to play 1574 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 1: for and, maybe, yeah maybe injuries hurt you or whatever. 1575 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 2: Else BUT i think that's the most fair and balanced 1576 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:24,360 Speaker 2: way to do. 1577 01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 3: It, also what would we be stopping a team from 1578 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,040 Speaker 3: Like Oklahoma city right? Now let's, say, uh, well you 1579 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 3: say of the bottom, six, yes what's not Even Oklahoma. 1580 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 3: City then what's stopping a ticket from. 1581 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,680 Speaker 1: A team that's that's eight and they want to make 1582 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 1: sure they get into that Six yeah, Exactly, like well 1583 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 1: that's what they're doing, ANYWAY i Get, yeah. 1584 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:42,280 Speaker 2: All their lives cutting. 1585 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 1: Off it's putting a cut off date on when they 1586 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,840 Speaker 1: can they have to stop, sucking right. 1587 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 3: EXACTLY i mean you're putting in a cutoff date for 1588 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:56,200 Speaker 3: them to suck even. More. No, Yeah, Like, okay siakam 1589 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,920 Speaker 3: right now dealing with the right. Hamstring soon they listened 1590 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 3: them as in the game and he got through the 1591 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 3: L stern. Break oh you see we were practicing On 1592 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 3: tuesday to come back up In. Pascal you know he's 1593 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,960 Speaker 3: out for like two to four weeks with a hamstring. Strain, 1594 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 3: okay comes. Back so now you just you hold him. 1595 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 3: Out you don't have Ty, reese you don't have a. 1596 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 3: Baby you're holding out your star guys now to lose 1597 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,559 Speaker 3: more games the rest of this month to get into 1598 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:19,200 Speaker 3: that one to six. 1599 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 1: Range oh look correct here, here What i'm saying Is, 1600 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 1: eddie as it stands right, now you're making my point 1601 01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 1: because then On march, first you got to start trying. 1602 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 1: Again you are putting a hard cap on when. Teams 1603 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,840 Speaker 1: if teams are, saying we're going to back our way 1604 01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 1: into make sure we're in this bottom, six they have 1605 01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,560 Speaker 1: a clear expiration date on when the losing would have to, 1606 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,800 Speaker 1: stop because then they got to turn around and they 1607 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,799 Speaker 1: got to be competitive again From march first To april 1608 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 1: whatever to finish the year in order to try to 1609 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:52,720 Speaker 1: get the number one. 1610 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 3: Pick you're also giving them a date of when they, Of, 1611 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 3: hey you guys need to suck for this long and 1612 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 3: now you can actually. TRY i think it's a bigger 1613 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:02,880 Speaker 3: problem than it would be now as it. 1614 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 1: Stands right, now it's, okay you're gonna suck for the 1615 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 1: rest of the, year Right. 1616 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:08,280 Speaker 2: And that's What i'm. 1617 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Saying and if people, want if people, want if, People i'm, 1618 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 1: saying if there is a fundamental or a conversational, problem 1619 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,040 Speaker 1: or in the league's, opinion if there is issue with 1620 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,639 Speaker 1: teams exerting less than maximum, effort then at the very, 1621 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,640 Speaker 1: least if you come up with it that, way you 1622 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,720 Speaker 1: are putting a deadline within the season of when the 1623 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 1: maximum effort has to then be put back in and 1624 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:39,839 Speaker 1: instead of so that, way instead of seeing four months 1625 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,479 Speaker 1: of a team trying to lose, Games you're only getting 1626 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:44,760 Speaker 1: two and a half months of, it and then they 1627 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 1: go back to a month and a half Of, well 1628 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 1: it's in your best interest to put your best foot. 1629 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Forward i'm not saying it's. Perfect i'm saying it at 1630 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,479 Speaker 1: least is a. Compromise if, if in, fact THE nba 1631 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: believes that it is a detriment to their sport to 1632 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 1: have teams putting less than best foot forward for an 1633 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 1: extended period of, time at the very least that comes 1634 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 1: up with a definitive line in the sand of when 1635 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 1: it then is against their best interest to do. 1636 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 3: SO i THINK i saw somebody suggest that they do 1637 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,960 Speaker 3: a definitive line in the, sand but not reveal the, 1638 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 3: date because then it would prevent What i'm talking about 1639 01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 3: right now of teams sucking to an extreme level. 1640 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,960 Speaker 2: Eddie but eddie. 1641 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Teams sucking to the the any, TEAM i don't care 1642 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 1: who you. ARE i don't care if The Washington generals 1643 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,160 Speaker 1: field AN nba. Team there is NO nba front office 1644 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:45,120 Speaker 1: that ever assesses who they truly are until at least 1645 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 1: twenty five games into the. 1646 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:47,960 Speaker 3: Season, correct, yeah twenty twenty five? 1647 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 1: Games, Yes, Okay so at that, point, okay if you are, saying, 1648 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: okay we are going to do this where the last 1649 01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 1: twenty five games are the ones of What i'm talking. 1650 01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,559 Speaker 1: About that gives you only a thirty game window to 1651 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,599 Speaker 1: even figure out if you're gonna. Tank you're only gonna 1652 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,920 Speaker 1: be able to do so for thirty games because it 1653 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 1: takes twenty five to even figure out whether or not 1654 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 1: you're that. Bad no team is going to start the 1655 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,320 Speaker 1: year and go we are doing nothing but being terrible 1656 01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 1: for fifty five, games and then we're gonna push in 1657 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 1: and we'll try to win those last twenty. 1658 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,639 Speaker 3: Five so The pacers have twenty two games Between march And. April, 1659 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 3: okay that leaves sixty games up until That march first cutoff. 1660 01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 3: Point if after twenty five you feel like you know 1661 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,879 Speaker 3: what your team, is you've got thirty five. 1662 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Games right to, tank which is better than fifty in 1663 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 1: the NBA's that's my. 1664 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,600 Speaker 2: Point you're, right it's not. 1665 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Ideal thirty five would be what it is a long 1666 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 1: it's a long string of games to be, bad for, 1667 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:54,400 Speaker 1: sure but it's better than fifty. Five you, are at 1668 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,840 Speaker 1: least you are cutting off the head of the overt 1669 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,720 Speaker 1: tanking by teams by forcing them to get their stuff in. 1670 01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 3: Order the other aspect, too of what you're trying of 1671 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:05,759 Speaker 3: what you've laid out here is schedule. 1672 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 1: Strength well that's WHAT i said in the. NON i 1673 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,559 Speaker 1: prefaced it by saying it's not the most perfect thing 1674 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,280 Speaker 1: because of the way the schedules balance, out and that's 1675 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 1: an unfortunate aspect of it for. Sure now having said, 1676 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,560 Speaker 1: that you, know the does a team have an advantage 1677 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,800 Speaker 1: of being in The west versus The east because they 1678 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 1: have to you, Know East coast teams have to Play 1679 01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 1: boston And philly and whoever four times as opposed to 1680 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,120 Speaker 1: getting to Play sacramento four times five. TIMES i, mean 1681 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 1: you're always going to have that, discussion that. Debate by the, 1682 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 1: way another one of my cultural epiphanies and brain. Dropping 1683 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,320 Speaker 1: Then i'm gonna put the last one failed miserably WHEN 1684 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,880 Speaker 1: i Used eddie as a, litanus But i'm going to 1685 01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:53,439 Speaker 1: use another one on going to do it Next Scott 1686 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 1: agnes coming up top of the. Out so one of 1687 01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: the THINGS i thought, about just in terms of where 1688 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:09,120 Speaker 1: my brain, thinks and Maybe i'm Maybe i'm just, Different 1689 01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:14,679 Speaker 1: Maybe i'm MAYBE i have a weakness in just assuming 1690 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:19,720 Speaker 1: that everyone feels as THOUGH i do and so this 1691 01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,000 Speaker 1: AND i will be curious And, Eddie i'm going to 1692 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,720 Speaker 1: run the risk here of asking you to opine on 1693 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,520 Speaker 1: whether you agree or disagree. 1694 01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 3: With me on. 1695 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:26,960 Speaker 2: This, Okay. 1696 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:33,720 Speaker 1: OKAY i had mentioned that it seemed to me like 1697 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,600 Speaker 1: the Super bowl came upon very quietly this, year like 1698 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 1: all of a. Sudden it was just, like, oh it's 1699 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Week and there wasn't a lot of the 1700 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,400 Speaker 1: typical build up and. Discussion AND i get part of 1701 01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 1: that's because of the, teams and part of that's because 1702 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: The patriots weren't it and people here don't like The, 1703 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: patriots and you didn't have dynasties or, superstars whatever it may. 1704 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 1: Be BUT i also noticed a strange phenomenon this, weekend 1705 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:02,280 Speaker 1: AND i have a theory on why this. Is Maybe 1706 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:07,679 Speaker 1: i'm wrong in, this Maybe i'm, wrong BUT i can 1707 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,560 Speaker 1: recall WHEN i worked in. Television for, example part of 1708 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,479 Speaker 1: the calendar for the LOCAL tv stations in terms of 1709 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,599 Speaker 1: travel and stuff that you knew you had to cover 1710 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 1: in terms of the annual calendar that you laid out Was, 1711 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:28,479 Speaker 1: okay we know, that for, example the first week in 1712 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,120 Speaker 1: or the second week In february is speed weeks In, 1713 01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: daytona and EVERY tv station In indianapolis had reporters down 1714 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 1: there all week and doing live shots and updates each 1715 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,280 Speaker 1: day of the you, know the duels and the qualifying 1716 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,759 Speaker 1: and The daytona five hundred and live shows. 1717 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Afterwards and it was a different. 1718 01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,280 Speaker 1: ERA i get that in terms of like what local 1719 01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,920 Speaker 1: media was and everything, Else but The daytona five, HUNDRED i, 1720 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 1: mean it was, massive and it was appointment viewing for 1721 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,559 Speaker 1: a lot of, people as has always been The Super. 1722 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:03,599 Speaker 1: Bowl and along those same lines, FOREVER i can vividly 1723 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,400 Speaker 1: recall the night That Mike tyson got beat By Buster 1724 01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,920 Speaker 1: douglas was the same night as THE Nba Slam Dunk, 1725 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,880 Speaker 1: contest and it was like dueling, televisions and The dunk 1726 01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 1: contest was such a huge, deal and the three point 1727 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,960 Speaker 1: shootout and whatever else An All star weekend was. 1728 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,400 Speaker 2: It, man it was a big. 1729 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:22,320 Speaker 1: Deal and yet both of those things happened to this, 1730 01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:26,480 Speaker 1: weekend AND i host a sports radio show In, indianapolis 1731 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,200 Speaker 1: the racing capital of the world and a city that 1732 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:32,479 Speaker 1: had a team a half away from winning THE nba 1733 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,920 Speaker 1: six months, Ago and WHILE i was aware of, both 1734 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: it didn't seem to have the oomph on the calendar 1735 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and the social stratosphere like it always has. Before AND 1736 01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,760 Speaker 1: i began to, wonder even though The Super bowl did big, 1737 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 1: ratings the are we in an era? Now have we 1738 01:30:54,320 --> 01:31:00,400 Speaker 1: reprogrammed and reconditioned ourselves as a society towards everything being 1739 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,760 Speaker 1: a la carte because people no longer are, like, oh, 1740 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,240 Speaker 1: Man thursday, night must SEE, tv got to raise home 1741 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,040 Speaker 1: and see, Friends and instead It's i'm watching Land, man 1742 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 1: And i'm watching you, know Ted, lasso Ted lasso that 1743 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,360 Speaker 1: was out four years. Ago, YEAH i, KNOW i never watched, 1744 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,120 Speaker 1: it So i'm binging it. Out oh, okay that's. Cool 1745 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,960 Speaker 1: let me know what you. Think everything now in terms 1746 01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,480 Speaker 1: of AND i get this AND i enjoy it. Myself 1747 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:30,840 Speaker 1: but leisure viewing of television is now taking place on 1748 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:35,400 Speaker 1: people's individualized schedule in, programming and so as a, result 1749 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 1: they are no longer looking at and setting aside and 1750 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 1: programming themselves to make sure they're in front of the 1751 01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 1: television for must see. Things because it used to be 1752 01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,080 Speaker 1: that the networks in the sports calendar told you when 1753 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,200 Speaker 1: you were going to watch, things and now we are 1754 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,760 Speaker 1: as a society condition to instead telling them when we 1755 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:59,040 Speaker 1: want to and you just don't have the live viewing 1756 01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 1: prior already like you used to, have and we've weaned 1757 01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:03,920 Speaker 1: ourselves away from. 1758 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 8: That. 1759 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:06,040 Speaker 1: NOW i realize The olympics are on and there are 1760 01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,960 Speaker 1: other such things going, on but it feels like the big, 1761 01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:17,360 Speaker 1: event must see events on television anymore have become secondary 1762 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,439 Speaker 1: in our consciousness of our event. 1763 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,720 Speaker 2: Planning, now AM i wrong in? 1764 01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 3: THAT i don't think you're. WRONG i also think you're 1765 01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 3: out of that target demo maybe a little bit, Too 1766 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,720 Speaker 3: and like to go back To All Star Saturday. Night 1767 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,639 Speaker 3: they had it at five, o'clock and, like It's All 1768 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:37,360 Speaker 3: Star Saturday. 1769 01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:37,599 Speaker 5: Night? 1770 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,200 Speaker 3: Why AND i CAN'T nbc has The, olympics but being 1771 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 3: at five, O'CLOCK i totally forgot what's going on On saturday. 1772 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,679 Speaker 1: Night i'm not out of the target demo, though because 1773 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,160 Speaker 1: the target demo is twenty five to fifty. 1774 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 3: FOUR i guess, yeah technically, Yeah but LIKE i thought 1775 01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:53,479 Speaker 3: The All Star game was. GOOD i thought it was. 1776 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,240 Speaker 3: Competitive it was the first time it was the Best 1777 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:55,599 Speaker 3: All star. 1778 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:55,800 Speaker 5: Game. 1779 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:56,759 Speaker 2: Probably it wasn't. 1780 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 3: Bad That i've watched in my. 1781 01:32:58,120 --> 01:32:59,479 Speaker 2: Lifetime it wasn't. 1782 01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,559 Speaker 1: Bad BUT i THINK i think most people, though probably were, like, oh, 1783 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 1: GOSH i didn't realize that was. 1784 01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,840 Speaker 3: On, YES i, agree that's my. 1785 01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,920 Speaker 2: Point. Yeah and The daytona five. HUNDRED i MEAN i 1786 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 2: watched it a total five, hundred did. 1787 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:12,479 Speaker 7: You. 1788 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,800 Speaker 1: YES i think a lot of. PEOPLE i don't know 1789 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,120 Speaker 1: what the ratings. WERE i haven't seen them. Yet i'm 1790 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,160 Speaker 1: not saying people don't pay attention to, it But i'm 1791 01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:25,920 Speaker 1: saying in terms of the build up and everyone knowing 1792 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:30,639 Speaker 1: what time it is in et, cetera that feels. Different tanking, 1793 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,400 Speaker 1: solutions that, discussion and where the pacers now go and 1794 01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 1: when we might see them back in the form of 1795 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:40,120 Speaker 1: what we expect when they're all. Healthy that conversation With Scott, 1796 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:46,080 Speaker 1: Nick pacers And. Wizards you just heard the promotion for 1797 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:49,320 Speaker 1: it Upcoming Purdue michigan, Tonight Big one AT Maci. Arena 1798 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Bobby riddell earlier on the program to discuss that and 1799 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,080 Speaker 1: What purdue can. Anticipate that is available in podcast. Form 1800 01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 1: you can listen to it After jay AND v signs off. 1801 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,120 Speaker 1: Today get you set for that. Game Stephen holder earlier 1802 01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,919 Speaker 1: today with the news About Anthony richardson likely to request 1803 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 1: a trade away From, indianapolis and then my brilliant idea 1804 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,639 Speaker 1: to end tanking And eddie papuoing. 1805 01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 2: It that's what we've done so far on the. 1806 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:20,000 Speaker 1: Show, Today i'm going to Ask, scott by the, Way Scott, 1807 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,280 Speaker 1: agnes basically the age between the two of, us, Right, 1808 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,439 Speaker 1: Eddie i'm going to run down For scott some of 1809 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:29,200 Speaker 1: those MOVIES i mentioned, earlier and we're going to get his. Checklist, 1810 01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 1: Okay Scott Agnesfield House finals joining us now on The 1811 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,000 Speaker 1: Java house guest. Line, scott you ready for this. One 1812 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:37,639 Speaker 1: i'm going to list some. Movies you tell me whether 1813 01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:38,240 Speaker 1: you've ever seen? 1814 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:38,640 Speaker 2: Them you? 1815 01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,040 Speaker 10: Ready i'm, In but this is not my. FORTE i 1816 01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,040 Speaker 10: do not watch many, movies But i'll give it a. 1817 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 2: Try, okay Sixteen candles heard of? It heard of? 1818 01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:49,599 Speaker 5: It? 1819 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:58,000 Speaker 2: Okay The Breakfast club heard of? It, Okay Paris Bueller's 1820 01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:05,400 Speaker 2: Day off seen? It pretty In? Pink? Unaware you've never 1821 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,839 Speaker 2: heard Of pretty In? Pink? Correct? 1822 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:08,519 Speaker 3: Okay? 1823 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 1: Uh let me let me list a couple of actors or. 1824 01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,479 Speaker 1: Actresses you tell me if you're familiar with. 1825 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:13,880 Speaker 2: Them you're? 1826 01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:14,160 Speaker 5: Ready? 1827 01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah Anthony Michael, hall no, Idea MICHAEL. J fox, Aware Molly, 1828 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:30,840 Speaker 1: ringwold no? Idea have you Seen vacation With Chevy. Chase, 1829 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:33,400 Speaker 1: yeah of, course. 1830 01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,479 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Okay Anthony Michael hall is the kid in. 1831 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:40,240 Speaker 1: It, okay he was also In and you said you've 1832 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:41,719 Speaker 1: heard of sixteen, candles have not seen? 1833 01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:41,840 Speaker 5: It? 1834 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 2: Correct, Yep, Okay i'm gonna give you like THREE tv 1835 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:47,240 Speaker 2: Hit it's. 1836 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,920 Speaker 10: Funny you're hitting literally my biggest. Weakness, Probably i'm gonna 1837 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:51,840 Speaker 10: give you a couple OF tv. 1838 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:53,960 Speaker 1: Shows you tell me whether you're familiar with them or 1839 01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 1: HAVE i wouldn't expect you to have seen. These bit 1840 01:35:56,000 --> 01:36:00,400 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with, them you're. Ready, sure cheers seen, 1841 01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:05,559 Speaker 1: It Family. Ties, OH i feel Like i've seen some of, That. 1842 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:07,800 Speaker 2: The Cosby, show seen. 1843 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:12,360 Speaker 1: It the Point i'm making these are all things that 1844 01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,439 Speaker 1: were big in nineteen eighty. SIX i Saw pretty and 1845 01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:16,840 Speaker 1: Pick over The, weekend And i'm, like, man that movie 1846 01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,840 Speaker 1: is forty years, old which is a long time. Ago 1847 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,439 Speaker 1: admittedly forty years, old BUT i feel like some of 1848 01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:24,200 Speaker 1: the pop cultural things that were relevant in nineteen eighty 1849 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 1: six have more staying powered today than things from nineteen 1850 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,960 Speaker 1: forty six did in nineteen eighty. 1851 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:36,120 Speaker 2: Six does that make? Sense, Yeah i'd say so for. 1852 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, yeah musicians familiar not Familiar madada. 1853 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:49,200 Speaker 2: Familiar prince familiar The, bengals not. Familiar walk like An. Egyptian, 1854 01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 2: OOH i gotta say. UNFAMILIAR i don't, Know. Eddie do 1855 01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,280 Speaker 2: you know the song walk like An? Egyptian you asked 1856 01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 2: me this saying, that so that's a, song not an, 1857 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:04,280 Speaker 2: artist AND i know. It it's a, song ey you 1858 01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:04,680 Speaker 2: asked me. 1859 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 3: Earlier my answer hasn't. 1860 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:10,800 Speaker 1: Changed, No, eddie play walk like An egyptian by The, 1861 01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,880 Speaker 1: bengals and tell me that you've never heard it, before 1862 01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,200 Speaker 1: like you've never walked into A. Kroger you've never like 1863 01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:20,599 Speaker 1: walked through a mall and heard this. Overhead may sees 1864 01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,280 Speaker 1: any of those, places like you, know with just the 1865 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:26,280 Speaker 1: music in, general when you walk into places and you 1866 01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 1: got to go like probably a minute into it or 1867 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,360 Speaker 1: forty five seconds into the song once it cues up 1868 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 1: for you. Here but it, was and AGAIN i, Realized i'm. 1869 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,320 Speaker 1: Motered you, guys this song was everywhere back in the. 1870 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,040 Speaker 1: Day i'm not saying that that means that it is, 1871 01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,720 Speaker 1: today BUT i feel like you would still hear it 1872 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,680 Speaker 1: overhead from time to time or just within the. 1873 01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:53,880 Speaker 2: Conscience definitely have heard. That, Yeah i've heard. 1874 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 1: It didn't know this was called, okay but you have heard, it, Right, yeah, 1875 01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,439 Speaker 1: yeah okay at any. Rate, Okay So, scott let's get 1876 01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,640 Speaker 1: to this the tanking situation in THE. Nba are they 1877 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,360 Speaker 1: going to make any sort of a change you think 1878 01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,960 Speaker 1: moving forward with? This or is this going to be 1879 01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:12,320 Speaker 1: an annual? Conversation it does seem like it's an annual. 1880 01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:16,640 Speaker 10: CONVERSATION i will say That i'm surprised about the intensity 1881 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 10: of a jake because what have we seen in recent? 1882 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:19,599 Speaker 2: Years? 1883 01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,920 Speaker 10: Right why Was okac in large part so Good they 1884 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:27,360 Speaker 10: executed a, tank same thing With San antonio for a 1885 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,640 Speaker 10: couple of, years, Right and that's how you build up 1886 01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,000 Speaker 10: your cupboard of the young players so that you can afford. 1887 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:33,919 Speaker 2: Them you develop. 1888 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,240 Speaker 10: Them and that's the other thing that's missing here is 1889 01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 10: it's one thing to draft, them it's another thing to 1890 01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:42,400 Speaker 10: develop them set them up for success. Here but, YES 1891 01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,160 Speaker 10: i do think there will be some kind of tweaks 1892 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:49,519 Speaker 10: updates to make kind of people happy and see if you, 1893 01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,960 Speaker 10: know they can solve it in a short. TERM i 1894 01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:55,320 Speaker 10: do not expect any kind of grand. Changes and there's 1895 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 10: so many trickle down effects to, that including pick, protections, 1896 01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,200 Speaker 10: right like the. Pacers if you know what if you 1897 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,120 Speaker 10: have a pick protection here three four years, down but 1898 01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,920 Speaker 10: then you get rid of like a lottery system and 1899 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 10: things like. THAT i think the number one thing they'll, Do, 1900 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:13,719 Speaker 10: jake is issue more, fines more substantial, fines and see 1901 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 10: if that can simplify it and lets get rid of the. 1902 01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,040 Speaker 1: Less, obviously the reality is, this though you can Find 1903 01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,200 Speaker 1: indiana And utah And New orleans till the cows come 1904 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:25,960 Speaker 1: home and nobody's going to, care it's not till you 1905 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:27,920 Speaker 1: find The, knicks the lakers of The celtics that all 1906 01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:28,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden people pay. 1907 01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:29,200 Speaker 2: Attention. 1908 01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,400 Speaker 10: RIGHT i don't entirely agree with, that because it's gotten 1909 01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,040 Speaker 10: a lot of attention the way in which especially we're 1910 01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,840 Speaker 10: talking about What utah is doing here where they're blatantly 1911 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,439 Speaker 10: sitting guys in the fourth. Quarter, toronto by the, way 1912 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,280 Speaker 10: did the same thing last. Year they would specifically not 1913 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,040 Speaker 10: play key players late in games or in the middle 1914 01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:50,960 Speaker 10: portion of. Games but then it comes down to kind 1915 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,040 Speaker 10: of big brother, Here, jake, right like you're sitting, There it's, like, 1916 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,120 Speaker 10: okay so it's the league office telling you who to 1917 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:56,519 Speaker 10: play and. 1918 01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,760 Speaker 2: Win, LIKE i don't like, That. 1919 01:39:58,439 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 1: And that's how it felt to me that was my, 1920 01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,160 Speaker 1: Problem like when when The pacers are getting fined because 1921 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,799 Speaker 1: they Sat Pascal, siakam who's played like a billion, minutes, 1922 01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,479 Speaker 1: right and then the when they finally rest the, guy 1923 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:12,479 Speaker 1: they get fined for, it and it's, like wait a, 1924 01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 1: minute so are you Telling Jeris walker he? 1925 01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:15,240 Speaker 2: Sucks is that what you're? 1926 01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:15,559 Speaker 5: Saying? 1927 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,439 Speaker 10: Right it's an imperfect, system and because it has its, 1928 01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,599 Speaker 10: flaws of course you're gonna have these brilliant front office 1929 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,000 Speaker 10: people with their data analytics and everything trying to poke 1930 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:29,120 Speaker 10: holes in. It and it reminds me Of belichick in an, extent, Right, 1931 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:31,559 Speaker 10: like for the most, part what he did was find 1932 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 10: the gaps or the, unknowns exploit it. 1933 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,320 Speaker 2: Until there was a. Rule then he would go on 1934 01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:36,800 Speaker 2: to the next. 1935 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,599 Speaker 1: THING i here's here was the solution THAT i threw, 1936 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,599 Speaker 1: out and Then, scott you tell me if you think 1937 01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,400 Speaker 1: this is totally, undoable And eddie AND i debated it 1938 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 1: because it's not a perfect there is no perfect, answer, Right, 1939 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah but the WAY i looked at it, Was, okay 1940 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,320 Speaker 1: if this is what teams are gonna, Do nobody starts 1941 01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: out the year and says we're gonna suck all year, 1942 01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:03,360 Speaker 1: out and your chance to see The Noblesville boom playing 1943 01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:04,200 Speaker 1: eighty two games a. 1944 01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:05,960 Speaker 2: Year nobody comes out and does. 1945 01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,680 Speaker 1: That they want to see who they are, first and 1946 01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:10,720 Speaker 1: usually it's around twenty five games you get a real 1947 01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:14,040 Speaker 1: idea of, like, man this thing's going south. Quickly so 1948 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,240 Speaker 1: if you're THE, nba you look at it and you, say, 1949 01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:19,719 Speaker 1: okay we're going to put a line in the sand 1950 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,679 Speaker 1: here Of march. First i'm just going to Throw march 1951 01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:25,040 Speaker 1: first as a number Of march. First and if you 1952 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: are one of the top or excuse, me bottom six, 1953 01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,519 Speaker 1: teams if you have one of the six worst, records, 1954 01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,599 Speaker 1: great you are the six teams that are eligible for 1955 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: the top six picks in the. Draft but the top 1956 01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:40,720 Speaker 1: overall pick is going to go to the team of 1957 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,719 Speaker 1: those six that has the best record in the last twenty. 1958 01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,439 Speaker 2: Games, now all of a, sudden if. 1959 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,599 Speaker 1: You Are washington or Your New orleans or Your, utah 1960 01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,280 Speaker 1: you look at it starting On march, first and you're, 1961 01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,280 Speaker 1: like we got to start winning some. 1962 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:53,320 Speaker 2: Games these games. 1963 01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:58,760 Speaker 1: Matter and, yes it is unfair because perhaps what If 1964 01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:03,959 Speaker 1: utah has to, play you, know the top three teams 1965 01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,519 Speaker 1: still remaining on their, schedule and it's backload or whatever. 1966 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,160 Speaker 1: Else that's the risky, run. Man but you are forcing 1967 01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:15,320 Speaker 1: teams to invert their strategy down the home, stretch and 1968 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:19,040 Speaker 1: you are limiting the amount of time that. Teams you 1969 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,600 Speaker 1: are putting an expiration date on. 1970 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 10: Tanking your, Thoughts, YEAH i think like any of, THIS 1971 01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,240 Speaker 10: i think it's great in many, Respects but then there's 1972 01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,160 Speaker 10: also some holes within. It for, example like some of 1973 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,360 Speaker 10: these players are hurt and they are having, surgery or 1974 01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,639 Speaker 10: you don't want players to be coming back from an. 1975 01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,040 Speaker 10: Injury you don't want to force, it but you also 1976 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,439 Speaker 10: need the. Wins so, that to, me that's partially a challenge. 1977 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,880 Speaker 10: Here the other THING i think fans need to recognize 1978 01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 10: is players aren't. Tanking players aren't trying to. Lose in, 1979 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 10: fact many of the time the players that are out 1980 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:52,960 Speaker 10: there are playing for a, job whether it's with their 1981 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:56,200 Speaker 10: current team or. Elsewhere it's kind of an, audition if you, 1982 01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,840 Speaker 10: will and it's part of the developing. Factor the big 1983 01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 10: thing in all, this when it comes down to, it 1984 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,800 Speaker 10: IS i believe THE nba really sports as a whole 1985 01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:07,800 Speaker 10: trade on kind of three, things the economy of, connection of, 1986 01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:11,559 Speaker 10: community and of. Hope and that hope is the thing 1987 01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,960 Speaker 10: here that is. Interesting, Right let's take The pacers. Specifically 1988 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,519 Speaker 10: it works out well because it's our market. Too but 1989 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,360 Speaker 10: there's no one to say, that you, know pacers are 1990 01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,960 Speaker 10: just specifically trying to, lose that they wouldn't want to 1991 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,400 Speaker 10: reach the playoffs if they. Could but the reality is 1992 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,200 Speaker 10: their circumstances are down this. Road AND i think what we've. 1993 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,599 Speaker 10: Seen i'm sure what you felt from your listeners and text. 1994 01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:37,200 Speaker 10: Line here is the, hope, Now, jacob this group is 1995 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,080 Speaker 10: about next. Year it's about bolstering the group so they 1996 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,200 Speaker 10: can get, back not just to a playoff, run to 1997 01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:43,120 Speaker 10: a championship. 1998 01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:47,600 Speaker 2: Run, yeah AND i get. Again you. 1999 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:51,080 Speaker 1: Know the other thing would, be do you randomly select 2000 01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:53,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the, year you use the ping 2001 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,639 Speaker 1: pong ball machine to select eighteen random games amongst those six, 2002 01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:01,000 Speaker 1: teams and then put together the best record of the 2003 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,160 Speaker 1: eighteen or, whatever so that you don't know which games 2004 01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:04,560 Speaker 1: it is or. 2005 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,840 Speaker 2: Win it is that you are being, itemized so to. 2006 01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,559 Speaker 1: Speak, Now, eddie you brought up a scenario that THE 2007 01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:13,040 Speaker 1: wnba uses that you. 2008 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,680 Speaker 3: Like, YEAH i was just, saying And scott can elaborate 2009 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,000 Speaker 3: more on. THIS i like the way THE wnba has, 2010 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:20,080 Speaker 3: It scott from their lottery. 2011 01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:25,439 Speaker 10: Perspective, yeah it's kind of a rolling draft, order if you, 2012 01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,800 Speaker 10: Will so it's like your combined record over the last 2013 01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:32,639 Speaker 10: couple of. Years, therefore for, example one THING i think 2014 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,599 Speaker 10: that everybody agrees On jake here is that there needs 2015 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:37,240 Speaker 10: to be rules set in stones so you don't just 2016 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,040 Speaker 10: constantly live in the. Lottery so maybe you can't make 2017 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,920 Speaker 10: a top five picking back to back, years or you 2018 01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,680 Speaker 10: can't draft in the lottery for three straight years or. 2019 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,400 Speaker 10: WHATEVER i think one of the penalties that could be 2020 01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,720 Speaker 10: considered is if it's firm, enough do you move to 2021 01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:52,720 Speaker 10: the back of the. LINE i think we discussed that 2022 01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,000 Speaker 10: maybe last. Year but the whole thing in reference to 2023 01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,920 Speaker 10: THE wnba there is it's not just specifically. 2024 01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:58,040 Speaker 2: About that one. 2025 01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:02,640 Speaker 10: Year it's a rolling kind of conglomerate number of the 2026 01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:06,040 Speaker 10: last couple of years to have a better indication if 2027 01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,400 Speaker 10: this was just a bad, year a couple bad injuries 2028 01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:08,760 Speaker 10: threw you. 2029 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,799 Speaker 1: Off scott The pacers and by the, Way Scott agnes 2030 01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,080 Speaker 1: is my guest on The Java House colbrew guest. Line 2031 01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,920 Speaker 1: scott won for example that enjoys. Coffee if you go 2032 01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,160 Speaker 1: into The Java house locations and order ahead of time 2033 01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,719 Speaker 1: on the Job house. App you can use the Code 2034 01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,280 Speaker 1: jake twenty five for twenty five percent off you are 2035 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:31,800 Speaker 1: in cafe Purchase Scott Andrew. NEMHART i will use that one. 2036 01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,320 Speaker 1: Specifically Nem hard of, course was injured going into The 2037 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,760 Speaker 1: All star break when they are In washington to take 2038 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 1: on The. Whiz where do things stand in terms of 2039 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:45,879 Speaker 1: the availability Of nemhart and or others outside Of Tyrese 2040 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,800 Speaker 1: haliburton And Obi. Toppin are we looking at basically a clean? Slate, 2041 01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:52,639 Speaker 1: YEAH i think for the most. 2042 01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,000 Speaker 10: PART i mean Nem hard was on the injury report 2043 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,640 Speaker 10: and he's dealt with certain things throughout the. Season right 2044 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,680 Speaker 10: Remember game one where he that. INJURY i believe it 2045 01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,720 Speaker 10: was to his, shoulder just a fluke type of. Injury but, 2046 01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,760 Speaker 10: yeah outside of you got you Got siakam that they 2047 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:11,280 Speaker 10: want to keep an eye, on right with in terms of, 2048 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,400 Speaker 10: minutes AND i think that's realistically how The Pacers jake 2049 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,200 Speaker 10: should handle these next couple of. Months is is not 2050 01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,599 Speaker 10: sitting guys game after, game but being more conscious of their. 2051 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:25,760 Speaker 10: Minutes they're wearing tear here moving, forward and with all, 2052 01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:27,880 Speaker 10: This i'm trying to think the injury report off the 2053 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:28,920 Speaker 10: top of my, head. 2054 01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:33,400 Speaker 2: But you really mostly dealing with what would it. 2055 01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:35,559 Speaker 10: Be it's just be the guys that are, out primarily with, 2056 01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:39,320 Speaker 10: topping With tyrese and With furfey that come to. Mind 2057 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,320 Speaker 10: the OTHERS i think were more rest and injury. 2058 01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:45,760 Speaker 1: Management you, know the if you look at their, schedule The, 2059 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:52,559 Speaker 1: pacers if in fact it's a concerted attempt to suck, here, 2060 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:55,799 Speaker 1: right this is a big week for them in that. Regard, 2061 01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,240 Speaker 1: right they got a big stretch that comes up, here 2062 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,759 Speaker 1: and the because you Got washington, twice you Got, dallas 2063 01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:06,760 Speaker 1: you Got, Philly philly's, okay you Got charlotte in. THERE i, 2064 01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 1: mean they got some big opportunities, here don't. 2065 01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:09,400 Speaker 5: They. 2066 01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,600 Speaker 10: Scott, yeah The wizards is the main, one right to 2067 01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,920 Speaker 10: have one of those rare back to, backs both in 2068 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,879 Speaker 10: terms of game and in terms of opponent and. Location 2069 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,880 Speaker 10: so often we see the home and homes against, them but, 2070 01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,120 Speaker 10: yeah The washington's a team that they're battling with there 2071 01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,160 Speaker 10: at the bottom of The Eastern conference. Standings and here's 2072 01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,960 Speaker 10: the EXAMPLE i think of what teams in the league 2073 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,679 Speaker 10: don't Want. Jakes you look At washington and so much 2074 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,320 Speaker 10: of what we're seeing as players at the trade deadline 2075 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 10: being acquired and did not play the rest of the. 2076 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,240 Speaker 10: Year we saw In utah With Jaron Jackson, junior AND 2077 01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:43,920 Speaker 10: i know we had. Surgery And i'm never gonna question 2078 01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:47,040 Speaker 10: anybody having, surgery because that is not something you do 2079 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,920 Speaker 10: lightly easily or for a you, know pr by any. 2080 01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:54,240 Speaker 10: Means But, Washington Anthony, Davis Trey, young each of those 2081 01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:57,719 Speaker 10: guys acquired mid, season AND i doubt we'll see either 2082 01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,599 Speaker 10: of them the rest of the. SEASON i think those are. 2083 01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,200 Speaker 10: Areas If i'm the league, OFFICE i try to shore 2084 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,040 Speaker 10: up here more than anything. 2085 01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:08,400 Speaker 2: ELSE i, mean when do we See Zobots, yeah that's a. 2086 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:11,240 Speaker 10: Good point with. HIM i think it's a matter of two. 2087 01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,160 Speaker 10: Things number, one the sudden trade and having a kid 2088 01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,880 Speaker 10: and all of. THAT i think realistically you do see 2089 01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:21,160 Speaker 10: him this, season THOUGH i don't know why you. WOULDN'T 2090 01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,280 Speaker 10: i know a lot of, said, HEY i don't. Care, 2091 01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,960 Speaker 10: NO i take great value in seeing him get some 2092 01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,800 Speaker 10: time on the court With, siakam with Nim, hard With 2093 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:33,720 Speaker 10: carlisle coaching the, team and knowing how they treat circumstances 2094 01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,760 Speaker 10: and experiences late in. Games things like. That we do 2095 01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,960 Speaker 10: not know. Anything the teams set to hold their first 2096 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:42,559 Speaker 10: practice back from break later this. Afternoon BUT i would 2097 01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,519 Speaker 10: be a little bit surprised, Here jake if we don't 2098 01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:49,160 Speaker 10: see him in the next week or. So make His pacers, 2099 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,080 Speaker 10: debut BECAUSE i think it would be, Valuable but we 2100 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:51,519 Speaker 10: do not know. 2101 01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,840 Speaker 1: Anything it's by the, way you tell me if you 2102 01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,280 Speaker 1: have any intel on, this, okay which has nothing to 2103 01:48:57,320 --> 01:49:00,800 Speaker 1: do with The, pacers, admittedly but selfishly, Speaking, SO i 2104 01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:04,320 Speaker 1: do a public league ON Espn Fantasy. BASKETBALL i do 2105 01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:06,400 Speaker 1: this every, Year scott because it really is a good 2106 01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,519 Speaker 1: way to keep tabs on players across the league and 2107 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing and who's healthy and who's. Not But 2108 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:15,200 Speaker 1: i'm also like uber competitive about. It my team right 2109 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,240 Speaker 1: now is, undefeated and the guy that is in second 2110 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:22,160 Speaker 1: place just picked Up Off, waivers AND i was thinking 2111 01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:22,599 Speaker 1: about doing. 2112 01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,719 Speaker 2: This he'd meet me to the. Punch he just picked 2113 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:25,360 Speaker 2: Up Jason. 2114 01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:29,559 Speaker 1: Tatum, now of, course that is under the anticipation That 2115 01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,320 Speaker 1: tatum is going to give him a push in the. Playoffs, 2116 01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:36,360 Speaker 1: here do you believe That tatum will play this? Year 2117 01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,479 Speaker 1: and if, so will he get to the point where 2118 01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:39,760 Speaker 1: he's The Jason tatum that we. 2119 01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,519 Speaker 10: Know, Yeah, so coming off In, ACHILLES i think he's 2120 01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 10: like nine months removed from, surgery which would have been 2121 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,160 Speaker 10: no chance a decade, ago but now with modern medicines 2122 01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,519 Speaker 10: changed quite a. Bit from his, standpoint it seems like 2123 01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,479 Speaker 10: he's taking The Aaron rodgers, approach meaning he said, it 2124 01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,200 Speaker 10: he's set a timeframe and a goal to, return and 2125 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,200 Speaker 10: that's what he's working, towards whether it happens or, not 2126 01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,559 Speaker 10: BECAUSE i think they'll get to the point whenever that 2127 01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:09,599 Speaker 10: is that he and the team doctors will look at 2128 01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,599 Speaker 10: him and, say, hey it's worth, it or, no it's. 2129 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 10: Not in the way The celtics season is, going maybe 2130 01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,200 Speaker 10: it will be worth. IT i tend to try to 2131 01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,599 Speaker 10: take the more conservative approach and have the big picture 2132 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:19,840 Speaker 10: thinking for a twenty seven year. 2133 01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,559 Speaker 2: Old BUT i would say that's. 2134 01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:25,639 Speaker 10: A smart pickup by your guy in the pool, there 2135 01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,400 Speaker 10: because if he does, return you know he's going to 2136 01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:32,080 Speaker 10: be one of the main featured guys. Here in the, Fact, 2137 01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:33,960 Speaker 10: JAKE i thought we might have got tipped off a 2138 01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:37,080 Speaker 10: little bit by. THIS nbc announced during The All Star 2139 01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:40,719 Speaker 10: game they're working on a documentary about, him taking fans 2140 01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,439 Speaker 10: behind the, scenes including a practice and a workout at 2141 01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:44,760 Speaker 10: Hinkle Field house when they were In. 2142 01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,440 Speaker 2: Indy all those. 2143 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,280 Speaker 10: Dots seem to suggest he's on schedule to try to 2144 01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 10: make a return this, season but does? 2145 01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:54,240 Speaker 1: He, okay here's the, reason AND i ask this also 2146 01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:58,639 Speaker 1: somewhat because it does a little bit relate To Tyrese 2147 01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,360 Speaker 1: haliburton and just give you an. INDICATION i know every 2148 01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:05,320 Speaker 1: player is, different every body is, different but when you 2149 01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:09,880 Speaker 1: look at for, example and it's all important here my fantasy. League, 2150 01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,120 Speaker 1: right everybody cares about your fantasy, team as we, know 2151 01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:17,880 Speaker 1: but the playoffs for my fantasy basketball league. 2152 01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,280 Speaker 2: Is Done april. Fifth the championship would Be april. 2153 01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,040 Speaker 1: Fifth, now he's not going to be playing at the 2154 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,280 Speaker 1: high level By april, fifth, Right he's going to still 2155 01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:28,479 Speaker 1: be on a minute, restriction isn't? 2156 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,080 Speaker 2: HE i would think? 2157 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:30,200 Speaker 4: So. 2158 01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,479 Speaker 10: YEAH i mean a lot of suggested is in the coming, 2159 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:34,400 Speaker 10: weeks is like A. 2160 01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 2: March first or whatever the. 2161 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:39,360 Speaker 10: Date but either, way, yes if he does eventually get 2162 01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 10: back this, SEASON i would expect him to be at 2163 01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:44,479 Speaker 10: a lower, minutes lower, usage not be the featured, guy 2164 01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,880 Speaker 10: but more as a thread out there and able to 2165 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,600 Speaker 10: knock down, shots attack on the. DRIBBLE i think he 2166 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,800 Speaker 10: would be kind of your sixth seventh. Man if you're 2167 01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:56,400 Speaker 10: thinking a general team at that time frame for him 2168 01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,280 Speaker 10: to get, back because you'll want to ease yourself into. 2169 01:51:59,320 --> 01:51:59,400 Speaker 8: It. 2170 01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,720 Speaker 1: Eddie you said you had a question about THE. Wnba, Yeah. 2171 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,120 Speaker 3: Scott where do we sit right now between THE cba 2172 01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:08,840 Speaker 3: negotiations between The Players association and the w. 2173 01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:13,360 Speaker 10: Itself from WHAT i, Gather, eddie good question is that 2174 01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:18,240 Speaker 10: there's been progress made that THE wnba responded to The 2175 01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:21,639 Speaker 10: Players association here in the last week or two something 2176 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,000 Speaker 10: that The Players association said they had not heard from 2177 01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 10: the league and with kind of a rebuttal for more 2178 01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,400 Speaker 10: than a. Month so we've had. That we Saw Adam, 2179 01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:32,799 Speaker 10: silver AND i think this is important from the league's, 2180 01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,640 Speaker 10: standpoint for him to come out firmly and, say, hey, 2181 01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,880 Speaker 10: look we are feeling the pressure they need to get something. 2182 01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,880 Speaker 10: Done he says he doesn't have too much of a, 2183 01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,679 Speaker 10: rule but if they need him to take on a larger, 2184 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:46,160 Speaker 10: role he. Will but it's go, Time. EDDIE i THINK 2185 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,080 Speaker 10: i would be very concerned if there's nothing done by 2186 01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:50,679 Speaker 10: the end of the, month because the reality, is let's 2187 01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:54,160 Speaker 10: say they agree, today then it takes lawyers and everybody 2188 01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 10: two three four weeks at, least right to get that, 2189 01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:00,559 Speaker 10: set and as we've outlined in previous, conversations they have 2190 01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,360 Speaker 10: so much to get done between now and. Then SO 2191 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,680 Speaker 10: i view these next two weeks is as critical for 2192 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,799 Speaker 10: everything to be starting on, time. 2193 01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,559 Speaker 3: Right BECAUSE i, mean what ninety percent of the league 2194 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,439 Speaker 3: is a free, agent, like they have so many teams 2195 01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:15,360 Speaker 3: that need, players and players need to fight teams and, 2196 01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,880 Speaker 3: start you, know training. Camp you've got to start planning 2197 01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,360 Speaker 3: for the draft all that stuff. Too what are some 2198 01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,160 Speaker 3: of the sticking points that you've been able to hear 2199 01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:25,919 Speaker 3: on the players association side and then on the owner's 2200 01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,400 Speaker 3: side of things that they're wanting to or that they're 2201 01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:29,080 Speaker 3: working on right. 2202 01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:31,400 Speaker 10: Now, yeah worst of all is you got two teams 2203 01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:34,760 Speaker 10: without any players because of the expansion. Draft obviously that 2204 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,640 Speaker 10: needs to be held coming up For toronto and For. 2205 01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:41,240 Speaker 10: Portland the number one Thing eddie seems to, be how 2206 01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:43,360 Speaker 10: do we divide the? Money and do we divide it 2207 01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,920 Speaker 10: based on gross income or net income when it comes 2208 01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:50,760 Speaker 10: down to, it BECAUSE wnba as a, WHOLE i, mean 2209 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,360 Speaker 10: the new, money NEW tv money has not kicked in just. 2210 01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:56,320 Speaker 10: Yet that starts this, year and that's where they should 2211 01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:58,599 Speaker 10: start taking. Off but remember they've been taking a hit 2212 01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,960 Speaker 10: the last couple of, years even more so because of 2213 01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 10: charter flights and that they enacted really a year or 2214 01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,720 Speaker 10: two earlier than they kind of had planned. For but 2215 01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,120 Speaker 10: THAT'S i think the commissioner said that cost him about 2216 01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:13,280 Speaker 10: twenty million dollars a year by. Itself SO i think 2217 01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,320 Speaker 10: how they divide up income is the number one. Thing 2218 01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,800 Speaker 10: and it's complicated because there are several interested or not, 2219 01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,840 Speaker 10: interested several owners when it comes down to, it with THE, 2220 01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:28,320 Speaker 10: nba with the special group that they organized several years, 2221 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,080 Speaker 10: ago and then of course THE wnba. Ownership SO i 2222 01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,440 Speaker 10: think that is number. One and then there are little 2223 01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,640 Speaker 10: details along the, way whether it's, housing what level of 2224 01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:40,919 Speaker 10: housing has? PROVIDED i, think stuff in terms of daycare 2225 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,880 Speaker 10: and maternity leave and those, things retirement, benefits all those 2226 01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:47,600 Speaker 10: that are always. Discussed but the number one sticking point 2227 01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,839 Speaker 10: seems to be how much of the pie do you divide? 2228 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,760 Speaker 10: Up and is it the full pie or just the 2229 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:54,920 Speaker 10: pie that's kind of left over after bills are. 2230 01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:59,080 Speaker 1: Paid, scott if you were to give yourself two, months 2231 01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:02,960 Speaker 1: which of these three things from The Winter olympics would 2232 01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,960 Speaker 1: you least likely die? From, okay we're gonna just put 2233 01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:08,880 Speaker 1: you on that skeleton and you're going to run through 2234 01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:13,600 Speaker 1: that course headfirst on that little skeleton Sled. Delio you 2235 01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:15,840 Speaker 1: got to go down the halfpipe on a snowboard and 2236 01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,400 Speaker 1: get at least fifteen feet of air and spin before 2237 01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,320 Speaker 1: coming back. Down or you just got to simply do 2238 01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,040 Speaker 1: one of those cross country ski things where everybody that gets, 2239 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,959 Speaker 1: done even though they are Trained olympic, athletes seemingly collapse 2240 01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:29,720 Speaker 1: and like fall asleep as soon as they're. 2241 01:55:29,720 --> 01:55:31,040 Speaker 2: Done which of the three would you? 2242 01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:34,800 Speaker 10: Pick certainly not number two where you're jumping an off 2243 01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,960 Speaker 10: air no. Chance as a, guy have. 2244 01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,800 Speaker 2: You seen have you seen the one where they're skiing? 2245 01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:41,480 Speaker 2: Backwards often they honestly have. 2246 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,200 Speaker 10: Not Why i'm not A Winter olympics type, guy SO 2247 01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:45,160 Speaker 10: i haven't watched much of. 2248 01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,480 Speaker 2: It, unfortunately to fall into the category Of John hughes. 2249 01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:53,000 Speaker 1: Films there's a there's a thing where they they skate 2250 01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:57,160 Speaker 1: backwards like into a have you seen this? Eddie the 2251 01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:01,080 Speaker 1: backwards are not skate, ski they're ski but they ski 2252 01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:04,800 Speaker 1: backwards down an air ramp and then like twist and 2253 01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:08,160 Speaker 1: contort and then have to. Land basically like is if 2254 01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:09,920 Speaker 1: you're doing a gymnastics. 2255 01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:12,880 Speaker 2: Exercise there's zero chance right. 2256 01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:14,760 Speaker 10: To, me it's got to be the skeleton slit where 2257 01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,800 Speaker 10: you just lay down and use your body to contort and. 2258 01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:21,200 Speaker 1: Move AND i know you're heading at seventy one mph 2259 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,960 Speaker 1: into an ice wall head, first, MAN i mean you, 2260 01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:26,400 Speaker 1: better you better mind your piece of, ques, Right. 2261 01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,360 Speaker 10: Yeah MAYBE i think that beats going airborn in your 2262 01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:30,600 Speaker 10: second option though with cross? 2263 01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:32,440 Speaker 2: Country. True what's, That? Eddie is? 2264 01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,600 Speaker 3: It The Big? Air the Free? Sky Big? Air is 2265 01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,160 Speaker 3: that what we were talking? ABOUT i think that sounds? 2266 01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:37,560 Speaker 2: Right, yeah The Big? 2267 01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:37,880 Speaker 4: Air? 2268 01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:39,280 Speaker 2: Right doesn't that? 2269 01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:39,560 Speaker 5: Sound? 2270 01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,600 Speaker 1: Now that sounds like some sort of a bad mid 2271 01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,360 Speaker 1: Eighties Kevin bacon, Movie The Big. Air Kevin, bacon he 2272 01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,560 Speaker 1: used to be a basketball, manager but now he's become 2273 01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:50,680 Speaker 1: a star in The Big. 2274 01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,520 Speaker 2: Air that's What that's what that sounds? 2275 01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:52,600 Speaker 5: Like? 2276 01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:55,880 Speaker 1: Right all, Right pacers whiz tomorrow, Night scott will have 2277 01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,960 Speaker 1: it all. Covered Fieldhouse files appreciate, It, scott all, Right thank, You. 2278 01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,800 Speaker 1: Jake Scott agnes joining us on The Java House Cold 2279 01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:02,480 Speaker 1: brute guest. 2280 01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 2: Line, yeah did you watch any Of The Big? 2281 01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:04,760 Speaker 5: Air? 2282 01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:08,400 Speaker 3: Eddie yes yesterday and they had to call it because 2283 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:09,680 Speaker 3: of snow last? Night did you see? 2284 01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:09,920 Speaker 10: That or? 2285 01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:13,000 Speaker 1: Yesterday it was snowing, right, Yeah now what call? It 2286 01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:17,040 Speaker 1: speaking of? That how are things looking on our? Snowbed 2287 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:19,400 Speaker 1: we're halfway? Through there's still? 2288 01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:20,200 Speaker 2: Remnant is there? 2289 01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 3: Not there is still? Remnant? 2290 01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:24,640 Speaker 2: Yes so now are we really does it go To march? One? 2291 01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:26,000 Speaker 3: OH i don't think. 2292 01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:27,680 Speaker 2: SO i think you're. 2293 01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:30,480 Speaker 3: Right is there an amy by the end of the. 2294 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:32,000 Speaker 2: Week you know, what. 2295 01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:37,440 Speaker 1: Here's the THING i thought for, Sure and for those 2296 01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:39,400 Speaker 1: that are not familiar with what we're talking. 2297 01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,680 Speaker 3: About especially because there's a chance of rain each of 2298 01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:43,200 Speaker 3: the next three. 2299 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:46,360 Speaker 1: Days when we had our snowmaged and meteorological orgy of twenty, 2300 01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,280 Speaker 1: six and that was On january twenty, six. 2301 01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:50,240 Speaker 3: Twenty, fourth oka like twenty, fourth twenty. 2302 01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:52,400 Speaker 1: Fifth so we came in the next day and literally 2303 01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:56,000 Speaker 1: a foot of snow fell out of the. Sky AND i, 2304 01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:59,400 Speaker 1: said at that, time once they plowed the parking lot 2305 01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:02,480 Speaker 1: and you get the little man made snow mountain, range 2306 01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:05,600 Speaker 1: what will the date be when you pull in and 2307 01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,560 Speaker 1: there's not a single remnant of it? Anywhere AND i 2308 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:12,440 Speaker 1: Throughout february, seventeenth And eddie took the. Under, now this 2309 01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:14,520 Speaker 1: was not a. Wager it was more just like we 2310 01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:19,440 Speaker 1: were having fun. Spitballing it pretty remarkable how close we 2311 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:22,640 Speaker 1: were on the. Date BUT i Thought eddie on AND 2312 01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:24,440 Speaker 1: i can't remember if it Was friday or SATURD i 2313 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,600 Speaker 1: think it Was saturday night when it, rained and it 2314 01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:28,960 Speaker 1: wasn't like a, downpour but it was a pretty steady 2315 01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,920 Speaker 1: and consistent. Drizzle, YEAH i thought for sure that was 2316 01:58:31,960 --> 01:58:34,760 Speaker 1: gonna make significant dent in. 2317 01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:37,760 Speaker 3: IT i think if it was during the day it would. 2318 01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,920 Speaker 3: Have if this because of THE i don't, know the 2319 01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,840 Speaker 3: temperature being a little bit, warmer potentially because it, was you, 2320 01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,920 Speaker 3: know low thirties when that rain was trickling, Down SO 2321 01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,240 Speaker 3: i don't know if it was at a temperature level 2322 01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:52,960 Speaker 3: to kind OF i don't, know rub away some of that. 2323 01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,760 Speaker 2: Snow, YEAH i JUST i think it goes to show 2324 01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:57,280 Speaker 2: how much we. GOT i mean that. 2325 01:58:57,400 --> 01:58:59,840 Speaker 1: Too and still you go to the big parking lots 2326 01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:03,120 Speaker 1: like A, meer A walmart or A, kroger like the, 2327 01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,560 Speaker 1: big huge parking, lots and there's still. 2328 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,360 Speaker 2: A mountain in the middle of. IT i, mean it's 2329 01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:09,160 Speaker 2: gonna take. Forever. 2330 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:11,000 Speaker 1: Now what's good is that we didn't all of a 2331 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:14,760 Speaker 1: sudden break into this warm spell with rain and then 2332 01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get mass flooding. Everywhere that's 2333 01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:21,880 Speaker 1: always an issue as. Well EARLIER i mentioned a bunch of. Mood, 2334 01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 1: now you've really never Seen Ferris Bueller's Day. 2335 01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:28,000 Speaker 3: OFF i have. Not you're familiar with, it familiar with, 2336 01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:28,840 Speaker 3: it haven't seen. 2337 01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:33,280 Speaker 1: It you've seen glimpses when you're like flipping the, channels, 2338 01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 1: RIGHT i, MEAN i get that you didn't stop to. 2339 01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:39,280 Speaker 3: WATCH i KNOW i haven't watched a minute of, it. 2340 01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:43,360 Speaker 1: But you've Never, okay IF i showed you an image 2341 01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:46,280 Speaker 1: Of Matthew broderick dressed As Ferris, bueller would you be 2342 01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:48,360 Speaker 1: able to say that's the Character Ferris? 2343 01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:48,760 Speaker 2: Bueller? 2344 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:52,080 Speaker 3: Yeah probably because you know one of the streaming apps 2345 01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:54,240 Speaker 3: that's been, there And i've always gone past it AND 2346 01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:55,000 Speaker 3: i see his. 2347 01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:58,600 Speaker 1: Face so that's my, point and that's simply my point 2348 01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:02,960 Speaker 1: is that the those things are still entertainment options that 2349 02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:07,560 Speaker 1: are easily, accessible and in nineteen eighty, SIX i don't 2350 02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:10,040 Speaker 1: remember that being the case About obviously you didn't have 2351 02:00:10,040 --> 02:00:13,200 Speaker 1: streaming services back, then but it just didn't seem like 2352 02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:17,240 Speaker 1: the things that were presented from an entertainment standpoint of 2353 02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,160 Speaker 1: the mid Four AND i get that we're coming off the. 2354 02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:22,720 Speaker 1: War that's a huge aspect, here But it just seems 2355 02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:25,920 Speaker 1: like the lasting staying power of things from then to 2356 02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,640 Speaker 1: now is more so than it was from like. 2357 02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Forty six to eighty. 2358 02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:31,480 Speaker 1: SIX i have another one of those brain droppings to 2359 02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:33,880 Speaker 1: get to on the other, side and we'll get back 2360 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Into Purdue michigan. Next, okay here's a decent proposal on 2361 02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:42,960 Speaker 1: how to eliminate tanking more simplified version of WHAT i 2362 02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:48,360 Speaker 1: was saying earlier on the Expost. Twitter once a team 2363 02:00:48,440 --> 02:00:53,040 Speaker 1: is eliminated from the, playoffs the first pick goes to 2364 02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:55,040 Speaker 1: a team that has the most wins once they are. 2365 02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Eliminated only problem, then is are teams going to try 2366 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,080 Speaker 1: to get eliminated early so that they can then stockpile 2367 02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of wins after the. Fact should it go 2368 02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:08,160 Speaker 1: to just simply best winning percentage once? Eliminated although then, 2369 02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:11,960 Speaker 1: again what if you're eliminated and there's only two games, left. 2370 02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:16,920 Speaker 2: You're two and? Zero you know WHAT i? MEAN i 2371 02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,560 Speaker 2: thought about, this WHAT i was thinking earlier about my. 2372 02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:22,760 Speaker 3: And where did the playing teams fall into that? Equation 2373 02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:24,480 Speaker 3: like the teams that don't make? 2374 02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:29,880 Speaker 2: It, yeah isn't the play In okay that leads to 2375 02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:30,600 Speaker 2: this age old? 2376 02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:34,360 Speaker 1: Question you're ready do you. Remember does anybody else remember? 2377 02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:39,240 Speaker 1: This this drove me. Bonkers there was like a three 2378 02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:44,720 Speaker 1: year window where THE ncaa tournament listed the play in 2379 02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:49,080 Speaker 1: games as round, one and so if you were a seven, 2380 02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:54,240 Speaker 1: seed seventh Seeded colorado is pitted against ten Seeded New 2381 02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:57,520 Speaker 1: mexico and that was listed as a second round. 2382 02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Matchup so you go back and. 2383 02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Look at the record books and you're, like, oh, Wow 2384 02:02:02,160 --> 02:02:05,240 Speaker 1: New mexico lost in the second round in two thousand and. 2385 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,480 Speaker 1: NINE i didn't realize they won a tournament game that. 2386 02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:07,960 Speaker 5: Year well they. 2387 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Didn't well, no it says right here they played in 2388 02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:14,720 Speaker 1: the second. Round well, no the second round is the opening. 2389 02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Round no it's. Not it says second. Round, no, no, 2390 02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:19,440 Speaker 1: no the opening round is the playing. Games, no, no there's 2391 02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:22,160 Speaker 1: a play in. Games they're called the play in games 2392 02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:24,600 Speaker 1: because they're trying to play their way into the. Tournament 2393 02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,320 Speaker 1: but even though they're trying to play their way into the, 2394 02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:30,320 Speaker 1: tournament doesn't it still count as being a tournament team 2395 02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:33,640 Speaker 1: because it's a sixty eight team. Tournament it's not a 2396 02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:37,080 Speaker 1: sixty four team tournament with four. Others it's a sixty 2397 02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:39,880 Speaker 1: eight team. Tournament so if you're in the play, in 2398 02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:42,160 Speaker 1: you should be in the, tournament except for then it's 2399 02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:43,800 Speaker 1: not called the play. In then it would be, called in, 2400 02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,560 Speaker 1: fact the opening, round which would mean that the regular 2401 02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:51,120 Speaker 1: games are round. Two becomes very confusing BECAUSE i actually 2402 02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:55,000 Speaker 1: agree with both sides of my. Counterpoint that's what's weird about, 2403 02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:57,480 Speaker 1: it and that's how my brain. 2404 02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:58,280 Speaker 2: Works that's. 2405 02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:01,040 Speaker 1: Weird and you, know there's stuff constant going, right LIKE 2406 02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:05,720 Speaker 1: i thought of this last, Night. Eddie if you're in 2407 02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:10,840 Speaker 1: my age, demographic pay, attention because What i'm gonna say 2408 02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:15,680 Speaker 1: is getting time is, relative and it's not until you 2409 02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:19,160 Speaker 1: get older that you realize how relative time is and 2410 02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:23,440 Speaker 1: how it can, be how transferable it can be in 2411 02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:28,400 Speaker 1: terms of the feeling of. It WHEN i was a 2412 02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:32,920 Speaker 1: freshman in high, school sometimes that seems like forever, ago 2413 02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:37,320 Speaker 1: and sometimes it seems like two weeks. Ago but WHEN 2414 02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:41,360 Speaker 1: i was a freshman in high, school we were twenty 2415 02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:43,560 Speaker 1: five years removed from The kennedy. 2416 02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:47,240 Speaker 2: Assassination, Now JOHN. 2417 02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:50,880 Speaker 1: F kennedy was killed In dallas nine years BEFORE i was, Born, 2418 02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:56,080 Speaker 1: okay but we were twenty five years from it WHEN 2419 02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,720 Speaker 1: i was a freshman in high, school and so it 2420 02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:03,160 Speaker 1: seemed like ancient. History, SURE i heard my parents tell 2421 02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:05,960 Speaker 1: me about. IT i heard my grandparents tell me about, 2422 02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:10,200 Speaker 1: it but ALL i knew of it was like old 2423 02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:13,760 Speaker 1: black and white video Of Walter cronkite announcing it and 2424 02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:18,360 Speaker 1: The zuppruter. Film, okay it was a long time. Ago 2425 02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:23,760 Speaker 1: and THEN i realized. That and if you're in my age, 2426 02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:28,600 Speaker 1: demographic pay. Attention ALTHOUGH i hate to tell you, this 2427 02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:31,200 Speaker 1: and somebody will send me a text that, says holy, 2428 02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:34,400 Speaker 1: cow you make me feel. Old, now my intention just 2429 02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:42,240 Speaker 1: showing that time is. Relative this falls incoming. Freshman nine 2430 02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:49,120 Speaker 1: to eleven is their jfk that to today's fifteen year old, 2431 02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:55,880 Speaker 1: kid nine to eleven is archaic and is outdated and 2432 02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:59,520 Speaker 1: historic and beyond comprehension to, them as The kennedy has, 2433 02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:01,400 Speaker 1: said or they hear their parents talking about, it they 2434 02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,800 Speaker 1: hear their grandparents talk about. It the difference being that 2435 02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:07,600 Speaker 1: nine to eleven is now archived on digital, film and 2436 02:05:07,680 --> 02:05:10,880 Speaker 1: thus it looks as crisp and as when you watch 2437 02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:13,320 Speaker 1: the videos of, it it looks like, yesterday not just 2438 02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:15,720 Speaker 1: because it felt that way to, me but because in 2439 02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:19,280 Speaker 1: reality that the film has not. Deteriorated whereas you know 2440 02:05:19,920 --> 02:05:22,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty, eight the stuff from nineteen sixty three 2441 02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:25,880 Speaker 1: looked really. Old other than the eyeglasses and the cell. 2442 02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:28,400 Speaker 1: PHONES i don't know that nine to eleven looks really old. 2443 02:05:28,440 --> 02:05:34,920 Speaker 1: Today but the relativity of time is it's a fascinating. 2444 02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:39,280 Speaker 1: Dynamic it's very. Odd AND i also think about With 2445 02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:42,040 Speaker 1: michigan And. PURDUE i think about great games that have 2446 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:45,200 Speaker 1: taken place Between michigan And, purdue and it feels. 2447 02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:46,680 Speaker 2: Like it was, yesterday and Then i'm, like, man that 2448 02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:47,280 Speaker 2: was a long time. 2449 02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:49,680 Speaker 1: Ago it was a long time ago When Glenna robinson 2450 02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:52,040 Speaker 1: said the game ate over till the Big dog says it, 2451 02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:54,880 Speaker 1: is which is what he said After michigan and The 2452 02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:57,440 Speaker 1: fab five thought they had Beaten purdue and Then Glenda 2453 02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:58,680 Speaker 1: robinson hit a game winner against. 2454 02:05:58,720 --> 02:05:59,480 Speaker 2: Him that was a long time. 2455 02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:04,440 Speaker 1: Ago but the names have, changed the times have, changed 2456 02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:09,320 Speaker 1: but the merits and the oomph factor and the star 2457 02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:12,040 Speaker 1: power has. Not when it comes To michigan and produe 2458 02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:14,600 Speaker 1: tonight at Mack, airina number one team in the country In, 2459 02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:16,640 Speaker 1: michigan first time they've been ranking number one since twenty. 2460 02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Thirteen AND i think there's some bad BLOOD i do 2461 02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:23,120 Speaker 1: Between Dusty may And Matt. PAINTER i don't mean like 2462 02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 1: if they saw each other at a cocktail, party they'd 2463 02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:27,920 Speaker 1: be swinging. FIGHTING i don't mean, that AND i don't 2464 02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:29,400 Speaker 1: mean that like either one of them is going to 2465 02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:35,080 Speaker 1: do public interviews talking bad about the. Other BUT i 2466 02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:39,560 Speaker 1: think whether it's fair or, not whether it's just or, 2467 02:06:39,600 --> 02:06:43,640 Speaker 1: NOT i think there is a growing sentiment Amongst big 2468 02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:49,120 Speaker 1: ten coaches that even though THE nil portal era, is 2469 02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:52,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of the, wild wild. WIDE i, mean look 2470 02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:55,000 Speaker 1: At indiana in. Football indiana in football just won a 2471 02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:59,280 Speaker 1: national championship because they were ahead of the curve of other. 2472 02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:02,120 Speaker 1: Programs as we talked about a lot in building a 2473 02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:05,400 Speaker 1: roster through the portal and through. Anil and in addition to, 2474 02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:08,600 Speaker 1: that they you, know they went out and they Got 2475 02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:11,160 Speaker 1: mendoza for three and a half, million and they, said 2476 02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,360 Speaker 1: here we, go let's, go and they complimented their roster 2477 02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:17,240 Speaker 1: with really good. Players and then, yes Kurtz signette's a brilliant, 2478 02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:20,800 Speaker 1: coach and they all had to buy. In But indiana 2479 02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:24,160 Speaker 1: was really smart and the way they handled the portal 2480 02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:27,160 Speaker 1: so there's no rhyme nor reason. No and the portal 2481 02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:29,440 Speaker 1: is one of those. Things when it works for your, 2482 02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:32,080 Speaker 1: team you love, it and when it's plucking your team 2483 02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:38,200 Speaker 1: you hate, It and there has been discussion in the. 2484 02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,360 Speaker 1: WINDOW i have no idea how public this. Is maybe 2485 02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:42,440 Speaker 1: it's like something a news story THAT i slept on 2486 02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:43,000 Speaker 1: that was a big. 2487 02:07:43,040 --> 02:07:43,520 Speaker 2: DEAL i don't. 2488 02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Know but allegation or feeling is That Dusty may has 2489 02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:57,920 Speaker 1: gotten players in the, portal and then ALSO i attempted 2490 02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:00,000 Speaker 1: to get players in the portal that had not yet 2491 02:08:00,120 --> 02:08:00,840 Speaker 1: thrown their name. 2492 02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:04,040 Speaker 2: In there's a. Difference one of them, is, hey don't blame. Me, 2493 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:07,120 Speaker 2: listen she was on. Tender don't blame. 2494 02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:08,920 Speaker 1: ME i, MEAN i KNOW i used to date, her 2495 02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:11,640 Speaker 1: but like she was on tender and so and we, 2496 02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:12,920 Speaker 1: MET i don't tell. 2497 02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:14,000 Speaker 2: You that's one. 2498 02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Thing the other is to go up to a woman 2499 02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:20,200 Speaker 1: that's already involved and has made no inclination that she's 2500 02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:21,640 Speaker 1: going to get on tender and, say, hey you know, 2501 02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:24,200 Speaker 1: what you want to go out tomorrow. Night the second 2502 02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:26,640 Speaker 1: one rubs people a little bit more the wrong. Way 2503 02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,080 Speaker 1: AND i think there's been some of that thought About 2504 02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:32,520 Speaker 1: Dusty may With michigan and in particular with some of the, 2505 02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:35,960 Speaker 1: players whether or not it's Specifically Braden smith Or purdue, 2506 02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,480 Speaker 1: players or whether or Not Matt painter is just kind 2507 02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:42,160 Speaker 1: of the The Elder statesman spokesman For Big ten. COACHES 2508 02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:47,080 Speaker 1: i think that there is that eyebrow raise Against Dusty. 2509 02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:48,640 Speaker 1: May part of it, too is he's the newest, coach 2510 02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the newest big time coach to the, league and there's 2511 02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:53,080 Speaker 1: that as. Well BUT i do think that there's a 2512 02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:55,920 Speaker 1: little bit of an icy relationship there which adds to 2513 02:08:55,960 --> 02:08:58,760 Speaker 1: the drama of this, game because it's a big one's. 2514 02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:01,440 Speaker 3: To ask you something. Else the history In. Michigan is 2515 02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:02,400 Speaker 3: that factor into it as? 2516 02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:06,120 Speaker 2: Well you mean in terms of, mean you. 2517 02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:08,120 Speaker 3: Got, harball you Got Shroan, moore you. 2518 02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Got, well but that's on the football, Side. Howard, yes, 2519 02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Well howard. Too you, KNOW i think. 2520 02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:18,760 Speaker 2: A little. 2521 02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:21,800 Speaker 1: BIT i, mean for, sure the athletic program in general 2522 02:09:21,880 --> 02:09:25,320 Speaker 1: has had JUST i mean it's been it has perceived 2523 02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:28,000 Speaker 1: as a win it all costs level program for the 2524 02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:30,200 Speaker 1: last handful of, years and one that just seems to 2525 02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:32,800 Speaker 1: run a. Muck to your, point, yes it does not 2526 02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:36,120 Speaker 1: help when you have the stereotype of your working for 2527 02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:39,760 Speaker 1: a place where it's the, wild Wild, west, Right But 2528 02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,280 Speaker 1: michigan is darn good And Dusty may's a hell of 2529 02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:44,160 Speaker 1: a coach and they've got a great roster and they 2530 02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:47,440 Speaker 1: play very, well they play well. Together they are, big 2531 02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:51,160 Speaker 1: they are, physical they don't hit a lot of they're 2532 02:09:51,160 --> 02:09:54,640 Speaker 1: not an outside shooting silence you from the outside. 2533 02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:55,080 Speaker 2: Level you. 2534 02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Know they're Not illinois in that, regard Or nebraska to 2535 02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:01,280 Speaker 1: an extend of that, regard but they're, very very. GOOD 2536 02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:04,960 Speaker 1: i THINK i think preduy wins, tonight THOUGH i do 2537 02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Think purdue wins tonight because of the paint crew that and, 2538 02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:12,040 Speaker 1: yeah the paint crew is going to be they're probably 2539 02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:16,440 Speaker 1: already lined up At harry's right, now Right BUT I 2540 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:18,920 Speaker 1: i think it's gonna be one of those games That 2541 02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:23,360 Speaker 1: purdue has a five to seven point lead, Throughout michigan 2542 02:10:23,440 --> 02:10:25,560 Speaker 1: makes a late, run But purdue hits a couple of 2543 02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:28,480 Speaker 1: free throws, late And purdue wins by five to. SEVEN 2544 02:10:29,120 --> 02:10:30,600 Speaker 1: i think that's how it's going to go down. TONIGHT 2545 02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:33,720 Speaker 1: jmb is. Here we will do the crossover. 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Year was it was 2564 02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:26,240 Speaker 1: that The Quinton nelson? YEAR i think it Was Quentin. Nelson, 2565 02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:29,080 Speaker 1: yeah that sounds my. Right H j AND b has. 2566 02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:33,680 Speaker 1: Arrived john was spinning all the love hits amongst. Others 2567 02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:35,480 Speaker 1: there were a number of things that you were playing 2568 02:11:35,520 --> 02:11:36,720 Speaker 1: For Valentine's day as part of the. 2569 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:38,720 Speaker 11: Takeover, yeah what did you think about? That that was? 2570 02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:39,560 Speaker 3: Fun wasn't? 2571 02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:41,200 Speaker 2: It a love for the? 2572 02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:41,560 Speaker 10: Love? 2573 02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:43,240 Speaker 11: Well he and she and. 2574 02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:45,960 Speaker 12: Went down because of the music THAT i. Played that's, 2575 02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:47,000 Speaker 12: right feel good about. 2576 02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:50,640 Speaker 1: That but it wasn't Entirely Valentine's day stuff because you missed. 2577 02:11:50,640 --> 02:11:53,000 Speaker 12: It it was mostly, that but, yeah it was not 2578 02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:55,280 Speaker 12: entirely that that, is that is for. 2579 02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:59,760 Speaker 2: Sure what's lined up on the big program, Today Dean? 2580 02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:03,920 Speaker 12: HART i think For Purdue, purdue That's Dusty, May, Wolverines 2581 02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:06,000 Speaker 12: Matt Painter, boy the. MAKERS i Know matt's put a 2582 02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:07,720 Speaker 12: premium on this, game, saying, hey if you want to 2583 02:12:07,760 --> 02:12:09,720 Speaker 12: win The Big, ten this is a must. 2584 02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:11,720 Speaker 3: Win so that's right out of my. Category we'll do. 2585 02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:16,400 Speaker 12: THAT a little reflection from the past weekend and a 2586 02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,400 Speaker 12: lot of other stuff going on this week. TOO i 2587 02:12:18,880 --> 02:12:21,360 Speaker 12: don't look too much into the whole franchise tag open 2588 02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:24,360 Speaker 12: window is very much or the fact That Anthony richardson, 2589 02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:27,200 Speaker 12: is you, know gonna want to trade and this is 2590 02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:30,640 Speaker 12: all stuff that you, feel all, right there's no future here. 2591 02:12:30,640 --> 02:12:31,840 Speaker 12: Anyway what do you think to get for? 2592 02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:35,440 Speaker 2: Him what do you think his trade value? 2593 02:12:35,520 --> 02:12:40,000 Speaker 3: Is what a fifth round or? Maybe? YEAH i think 2594 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:41,720 Speaker 3: it's about, Right, yeah not. 2595 02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:45,960 Speaker 11: Amazing don't you just do it to get it over? 2596 02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:49,080 Speaker 12: With or are you apprehensive because what if he goes 2597 02:12:49,120 --> 02:12:52,040 Speaker 12: someplace and all of a sudden sprouts into what you, 2598 02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:55,480 Speaker 12: want which, Listen i'm not suggesting he's, gonna but it 2599 02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:59,520 Speaker 12: would BE i think this place and the lack of 2600 02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:01,960 Speaker 12: fortune it has for him to go someplace and look 2601 02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:04,560 Speaker 12: good and make this place look like a bunch of no. 2602 02:13:04,760 --> 02:13:06,320 Speaker 2: Nuts who's more likely. 2603 02:13:07,800 --> 02:13:12,080 Speaker 1: To show trade remorse for the team that dealt Him 2604 02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:13,400 Speaker 1: Ben matherin Or Anthony. 2605 02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:18,160 Speaker 3: RICHARDSON i would Say matherie just because of his. 2606 02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:22,040 Speaker 12: Attitude BUT i would think that what would leave a 2607 02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:25,240 Speaker 12: mark is because it was a top four and you're 2608 02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:29,960 Speaker 12: the most important position in professional sports and you put 2609 02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,320 Speaker 12: all all of everything on that and it failed so. 2610 02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:33,520 Speaker 12: Miserably it would be that. 2611 02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:37,160 Speaker 2: And, john Like i've, said you know chicken and. 2612 02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:40,480 Speaker 1: Egg, here do we look At Chris ballard and say 2613 02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:44,360 Speaker 1: it was a genius move and it was a smart 2614 02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:47,120 Speaker 1: decision to bring In Daniel jones and then hand the 2615 02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:51,000 Speaker 1: franchise over to. Him or is that because in the 2616 02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:53,240 Speaker 1: most important draftick he had to make he completely swung a. 2617 02:13:53,280 --> 02:13:56,320 Speaker 12: Miss it's because you're, Desperate that's why you're bringing back 2618 02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:58,080 Speaker 12: a guy and you got your fingers crossed and hoping 2619 02:13:58,080 --> 02:13:59,560 Speaker 12: that he's going to be healthy and being able to 2620 02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:03,320 Speaker 12: go through usas and again because of nothing other than. 2621 02:14:03,400 --> 02:14:06,760 Speaker 12: Desperation that's that's where you, are and that's where this 2622 02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:09,680 Speaker 12: organization is right. Now do we know at the combine 2623 02:14:09,680 --> 02:14:11,360 Speaker 12: and we're going to talk to? Anybody have we heard 2624 02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:14,240 Speaker 12: normally this kind of sorts itself. Out now you're going 2625 02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:16,280 Speaker 12: to Get ballard and somebody's going to get Stych in 2626 02:14:16,360 --> 02:14:18,960 Speaker 12: or That i'm going to get the person that cleans 2627 02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:20,400 Speaker 12: up night over. 2628 02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:22,600 Speaker 2: There last, YEAR i Got. Stichen which one did you? 2629 02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:23,880 Speaker 3: GET i Got Lou? 2630 02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:28,400 Speaker 2: Aroumo, Okay lou And aroumo and Did ballard go on? 2631 02:14:29,160 --> 02:14:32,480 Speaker 12: With wallward walked by and quote and asked me IF 2632 02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:34,680 Speaker 12: i was going through a midlife crisis BECAUSE i lost 2633 02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:36,800 Speaker 12: so much, Weight AND i, said damn, STRAIGHT i. Am 2634 02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:39,400 Speaker 12: the crisis IS i can't have a football Team i'll 2635 02:14:39,400 --> 02:14:40,680 Speaker 12: watch ever win anything around? 2636 02:14:40,720 --> 02:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Here did he ask you? 2637 02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:42,440 Speaker 1: That? 2638 02:14:42,480 --> 02:14:42,800 Speaker 2: Though he? 2639 02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:44,360 Speaker 12: Did he asked me IF i was going through a midlife. 2640 02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:49,160 Speaker 12: CRISIS i, said, hell, YEAH i am fair. ENOUGH i 2641 02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:50,600 Speaker 12: become a big douche and everything. 2642 02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:52,440 Speaker 2: ELSE i just, SAID i don't, know but you're about 2643 02:14:52,440 --> 02:14:52,920 Speaker 2: to come up on. 2644 02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:53,520 Speaker 11: A mid season. 2645 02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:54,400 Speaker 3: ONE i, said you know? 2646 02:14:54,440 --> 02:14:56,720 Speaker 12: What and the capital on my middle life crisis for 2647 02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:57,920 Speaker 12: you to hand me that flat build. 2648 02:14:57,960 --> 02:14:58,840 Speaker 3: Hat you're rocking right. 2649 02:14:58,880 --> 02:15:01,800 Speaker 1: THERE i just, said you want to talk about mid? 2650 02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:04,800 Speaker 2: Life wait till week, nine. Buddy ACTUALLY i thought it. 2651 02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:05,840 Speaker 11: WAS i thought it was really. 2652 02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:09,640 Speaker 12: Funny and And matt came over afterwards and said. SOMETHING i, Said, 2653 02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:11,680 Speaker 12: NO i thought it was because hand stick and kind 2654 02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:13,680 Speaker 12: of both said the same thing when they were walking, 2655 02:15:13,720 --> 02:15:14,680 Speaker 12: by AND i thought it was kind of. 2656 02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:16,800 Speaker 2: Funny are you going through midlife? Crisis by the, WAY 2657 02:15:17,200 --> 02:15:17,880 Speaker 2: i don't know if it's a. 2658 02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:20,880 Speaker 11: CRISIS i just Think I'm i'm turning into kind of a. 2659 02:15:20,920 --> 02:15:21,800 Speaker 3: Douchebag that's. 2660 02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Cool, yeah that's. 2661 02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:24,080 Speaker 11: COOL i can't do anything about. 2662 02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:26,240 Speaker 1: It eddie just said to wrap, you he, said wrap 2663 02:15:26,280 --> 02:15:27,080 Speaker 1: the guy with the midlife. 2664 02:15:27,120 --> 02:15:30,520 Speaker 2: Crisis he's got. It he's got an eighty Six corvette 2665 02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:31,120 Speaker 2: convertible to. 2666 02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:31,200 Speaker 10: Go. 2667 02:15:31,280 --> 02:15:34,440 Speaker 11: Wax oh, Man i'm gonna be sure less all summer. 2668 02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:34,960 Speaker 11: LONG i know. 2669 02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:37,360 Speaker 1: That by the, way the guy's uh up to his 2670 02:15:37,440 --> 02:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Parking shenan against again, Smoker so, yeah that's. 2671 02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:42,240 Speaker 11: Right is they smoking behind the caddy over? 2672 02:15:42,280 --> 02:15:43,480 Speaker 5: There john's up. 2673 02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Next we'll be back to do neton. Tomorrow thanks for 2674 02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:45,920 Speaker 2: listening To Queying. 2675 02:15:45,920 --> 02:15:46,280 Speaker 3: Company