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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about it redistricting. I mean, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about it more and again.

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Speaker 2: This conversation has been going on since the end of July,

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Speaker 2: and it seems like it is coming to a climax.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Kendall and Casey Show. My name

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Speaker 2: is Casey. Jim is in for Rob who right now

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Speaker 2: at this point, I'm sure would love to be in

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Speaker 2: the studio to fight with our next guest, and that

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Speaker 2: is Representative Andrew Ireland. Andrew, thank you for coming in

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Speaker 2: this morning. He's in the studio. If you'd like to watch,

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Speaker 2: you can do that. Type in Kendal and Casey into

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Speaker 2: the YouTube search bar. And before we begin, I want

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Speaker 2: to congratulate you for being honored on having the highest

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Speaker 2: Freedom Index rating of any Indiana lawmaker this year.

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Speaker 1: What exactly does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: So, you know's a rating based on how you vote.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a culative.

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Speaker 4: Score over time, based on different bills that come up

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Speaker 4: and how you approach it. Really focused on constitutional values,

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Speaker 4: you know, basic freedom, your individual liberties, whether or not

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Speaker 4: you're voting consistent with the US Constitution. And you know

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Speaker 4: that's something I really pride myself in. I think it's

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Speaker 4: that the score reflects exactly what I said i'd do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, congratulations. Somebody tagged me on Twitter and they said,

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Speaker 2: please ask him real questions. Don't just use these softball

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for the tough question?

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Speaker 4: Hit me with the hardest questions you got.

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Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, before we get into the Voting

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Speaker 2: Rights Act and how this affects Indiana and across the nation.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you because Governor Brawn made an

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Speaker 2: announcement November third is when the special session will happen.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you've been told?

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Speaker 3: It's right. I saw the tweet this morning.

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Speaker 4: The Governor, I think is officially called a special session

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Speaker 4: to convene on November the third. Whether or not we

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Speaker 4: of days later, what we'll see? You know, the logistics?

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Speaker 4: I think sometimes are you know decided a little bit later?

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Speaker 2: But did you find out when everybody else find out?

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Speaker 2: Or was there a bat signal.

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Speaker 4: You know, I saw the reporting over the weekend that

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 2: He also mentioned that he wants to focus on some

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Speaker 2: tax policy as well, which leads me to the question, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if you're in a special session, you can introduce bills,

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Speaker 4: You can, so there's no limitation on what bills can

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Speaker 4: be filed. Doesn't necessarily mean that those bills will be heard.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: Traditionally for special sessions you try to keep them to

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Speaker 4: you might be able to do things retroactively if you

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Speaker 4: easier to get them done now. Makes a lot of

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Speaker 2: Some people are saying, hey, my property tax bill can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Is that something that you would consider reintroducing during a

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, I don't think there's anybody in the entire

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Speaker 1: Right you were at the rally.

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Speaker 3: I was at the rally.

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Speaker 3: That one's dung. It's stung a lot. You know.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any inclination to introduce any other bills

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Speaker 3: So I think that's the focus right now.

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Speaker 4: Again, I've got five bills that I'm working on for

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Speaker 4: So just so that we could, you know, kind of

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Speaker 3: I think it's probably a better way to do it.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people are saying, you've seen the polls.

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Speaker 2: last week we were told that the votes weren't there,

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Speaker 1: Anyway, does that mean the votes are there?

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't tell you. I don't have a whip count.

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Speaker 4: I think that for the show, Adam Brin reported initially

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about the why, because there are

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump before the midterms and to make things right

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Speaker 2: So why are we doing this? Why are we considering

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you I think that if we don't

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Speaker 4: at a national level. I mean, right now, Indiana, if

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Speaker 4: Sounds like upwards of three Republicans a seat in Congress,

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Speaker 4: California taking five away. And you've got states like Massachusetts, Illinois, Maryland,

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Speaker 4: I think it's really important on that reason alone, is

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Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned Massachusetts, and we've talked in the past

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Speaker 2: to redistrictr dot org and draw a map in Massachusetts

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Speaker 2: that had Republican representation and they could not do it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and every election cycle is different.

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Speaker 4: But I will say I actually saw a data analyst

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Speaker 4: Jerry Mander, where you know, there was one Republican seat

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Speaker 3: For the state of Massachusetts.

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Speaker 4: So even in Massachusetts you can find two Republicans. Massachusetts

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Speaker 4: doesn't choose to do that, but you could do it.

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Speaker 2: If you work hard enough. We have Representative Andrew Ireland

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Speaker 2: joining us. I wanted to ask you about the maps specifically.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen a map?

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Speaker 4: You know, I've seen a million doing maps online. I

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Speaker 3: Yet.

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Speaker 4: I think that's part of what the special session is

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Speaker 4: there to do those to go and you know, meet

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Speaker 4: is a committee, I think the Elections Committee, whatever committee

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Speaker 4: I think there's a million ways you can do that,

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Speaker 3: But I don't have an official map. No. Now everything

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I mean, again, this is really

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Speaker 4: and this is a reaction to what's happening in other states. Again,

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Speaker 2: Has there been any conversation about having a non partisan,

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Speaker 3: So I've seen people talk about that.

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Speaker 4: I will say, when you look at states like California

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Speaker 4: statistically far more Democrat than what the average voting populace is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look at California today, where the president got

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Speaker 4: i think over forty percent of the vote.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it could be wrong on that.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's almost as you know, Republican, as Indiana

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Speaker 4: with their nonpartisan redistricting commission. So you can only imagine, then, again,

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Speaker 4: what that would look like in Indiana. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it actually changes anything, and it takes away that, you know,

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Speaker 4: kind of, I think the authority of the legislature, which

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Speaker 4: is given to them by the US Constitution to draw

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Speaker 4: the maps.

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Speaker 3: Like it's important.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that you mentioned forty percent because Indiana technically

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Speaker 2: is forty percent Democrat, but now with this redistricting, you

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Speaker 4: Well, and again, you know, if Massachusetts, Virginia, California want

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Speaker 2: Are you concerned at all that we go through this

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Speaker 1: But isn't that more of a problem of the Mary

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Speaker 4: Though it's certainly part of it. I listen, I don't

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Speaker 2: Have you heard from any of your colleagues. Are people

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Speaker 3: I certainly am.

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Speaker 4: And frankly, listen, I read every email, We listen to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, if it's not one of somebody

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Speaker 3: Been for years.

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Speaker 2: to stick around for just a few more minutes? Okay,

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Speaker 1: All right. It is the Kendall and Casey Show. It's

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Speaker 1: ninety three w IBC. My name is Casey Daniels, Rob

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Speaker 2: we have Indiana Representative Andrew Ireland, and I want to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know Rob's out on the golf course today,

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Speaker 3: Since the messages here.

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Speaker 4: So Rob asked us, So when adding two more Jefferson

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Speaker 4: You know, I get the sentiment there. I've got all

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Speaker 2: So you're talking mainly social issues, but we added a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this dead is a problem.

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Speaker 2: And you spent yesterday in Costco with your baby, how'd

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Speaker 3: This is where I get upset at because I love

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Speaker 3: Costco and there all the time, but I've never had

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Speaker 3: the Costco meat loaf because i happened to live with

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Speaker 3: somebody that does not like meat loaf. That's true, you knew.

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Speaker 2: You can find the picture of Andrew's purchases at Andrew Ireland.

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Speaker 2: I n and the reason I wanted to bring up

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Speaker 2: Costco is again, I go back to you were just

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Speaker 2: at the grocery store and we're being told by the

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Speaker 2: President the grocery prices are coming down and gas prices

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Speaker 2: are coming down.

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Speaker 1: But here in Indiana, the gas prices are not coming down.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know what your grocery bill was, but

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Speaker 2: it was probably a little higher than it used to be.

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Speaker 2: So your voters want you to focus on that rather

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Speaker 2: than the redistricting, What say you?

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Speaker 4: So, I think we can walk and chew gum at

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Speaker 4: the same time, right, So, I think you can redistrict

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Speaker 4: but also really focus on the issues that matter to

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Speaker 4: the people. I mean, that's that's what I've been doing

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Speaker 4: from the moment that I got there, is really focused

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Speaker 4: on that. I had my own property tax plan. Obviously

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Speaker 4: we didn't move forward with it. I've got a bill

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Speaker 4: I'm working on right now, and whether it's for this

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Speaker 4: session or you know, the next one is associated with

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Speaker 4: the gas tax. The guy you talked about it a

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Speaker 4: little bit, maybe the last time that gym was here.

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Speaker 4: But you know, we have remittances, so this is money

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Speaker 4: that is transferred out of the country that worker is

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Speaker 4: often illegal aliens. I think we should be taxing that

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Speaker 4: instead of hardworking hoosiers and use that money to pay

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Speaker 4: down you know, the gas tax is a credit for

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Speaker 4: hardworking Hoosiers, so you're not paying these ridiculous gas taxes.

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Speaker 4: So hey, you got an ally there on all of that.

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Speaker 4: I think that there's something to be said that Republicans

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Speaker 4: need to do more at the state and federal level

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Speaker 4: to really go and do what they campaign on for

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Speaker 4: the beginning, which is trying to make life easier for people,

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Speaker 4: not to tax us, you know, out of existence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's what they're there for, right

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Speaker 2: It's the voters picking representation, not representation picking their voters. Andrew,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming in and sticking around for a half.

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Speaker 1: Hour with us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it good to be back.

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Speaker 1: It is the Kendally Casey Show. It's ninety three WIBC. Well,

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Speaker 1: we really appreciate.

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Speaker 2: Representative Andrew Ireland coming in and joining the Kendal and

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Speaker 2: k C Show and talking redistricting. If you missed it,

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Speaker 2: you can go back and listen at noon because we

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Speaker 2: don't care what you do with Tony cass Is on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he spent a lot of time with us talking.

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Speaker 2: But I did want to let you know. It is

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Speaker 2: now being reported that a spokesperson regard a spokesperson said

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Speaker 2: regarding the upcoming special session that the votes still aren't

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Speaker 2: there for redistricting.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine they go through this whole process, months

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Speaker 3: and months of talking about redistricting, trying to whip up

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Speaker 3: the votes, Braun finally calls a special session. We have

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Speaker 3: a special session, debate ensues, bills are put in, and

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Speaker 3: they don't get the votes to redraw the maps. Can

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Speaker 3: you imagine if that happened?

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Speaker 1: Well, what are the maps?

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Speaker 2: That's my question question, what are the official maps that

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Speaker 2: they're proposing? And that could be intentional as well, because

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Speaker 2: then that takes the heat off of Governor Mike Braun.

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Speaker 2: He can go to the Trump administration and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we did what you asked us to do. It still

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Speaker 2: didn't happen, and now that will be potentially a consequence

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Speaker 2: of any no votes.

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Speaker 3: Sure, just blame the reps, the state senators that didn't

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Speaker 3: vote for it. You're right, that's actually a great point, Dany.

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Speaker 1: And was that the goal all along.

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Speaker 3: Right to go through the motions on this to make

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration happy, and then whatever happens happens, and

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Speaker 3: if we don't get enough votes to pass it, then fine,

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Speaker 3: Braun can sit here and say not my fault. Look

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Speaker 3: over there, it's not my fault. But yeah, huge props

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Speaker 3: to Andrew Ireland for coming in here. He knows that

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Speaker 3: certainly this show has disagreed with his position, but he

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Speaker 3: comes in here anyway and takes the tough questions and

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Speaker 3: goes to Costco on a Sunday afternoon with the Toddler.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Ireland may have more guts than anybody, any other

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Speaker 3: elected official in the entire state for those two things

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Speaker 3: right there.

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Speaker 2: President Trump, he announced the termination of all US trade

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Speaker 2: negotiations with Canada, and this decision was prompted by a

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Speaker 2: Canadian ad featuring Ronald Reagan criticizing tariffs. So the Ontario

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Speaker 2: Premier Doug Ford he launched a seventy five million dollar

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Speaker 2: ad campaign and the US. The ad used edited clips

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Speaker 2: of Reagan's nineteen eighty seven radio address, which promoted free

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Speaker 2: trade and opposed tariffs. Let's listen to a quick snippet

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Speaker 2: of the ad.

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Speaker 5: When someone says, let's impose tariffs on foreign imports, it

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Speaker 5: looks like they're doing the patriotic thing by protecting American

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Speaker 5: products and jobs. And sometimes for a shortened vivid works

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Speaker 5: but only for a short time, but over the long run,

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Speaker 5: such trade barriers hurt every American worker and consumer. High

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Speaker 5: tariffs inevitably lead the retaliation by foreign countries and the

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Speaker 5: triggering of fierce trade warks than the worst tackles, market

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Speaker 5: shrink and collapse, businesses and industry shutdown, and millions of

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Speaker 5: people lose their jobs.

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Speaker 2: So the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation claimed that the ad

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Speaker 2: misrepresented Reagan's viewsed and was used without permission. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump called the ad fake and accused Canada of

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Speaker 2: fraudulent using Reagan's image.

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Speaker 3: Can Canada could not have screwed this entire process up

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Speaker 3: more if they have tried.

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Speaker 1: Canada can't use Ronald Reagan.

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Speaker 3: Only we can use Ronald Reagan. It's just like animal house.

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Speaker 3: Do you get do that to our pledges? Only we

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Speaker 3: can do that to our plague?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: But then, and look, I get Canada. I understand. You know,

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Speaker 3: Trump called you the fifty first state. You guys are

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Speaker 3: very very patriotic in your own little ways up there

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Speaker 3: in the North, and that didn't feel so good. And

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Speaker 3: Trump changed all the tariffs, and that's certainly gonna hurt

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Speaker 3: your economy. But let's be honest, this is a really

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Speaker 3: really bad idea to go toe to toe with the

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Speaker 3: United States on something like this. So Rob Ford is

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Speaker 3: or Doug Ford rather is the premiere of Ontario. From

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Speaker 3: all indications are, he went and did this on his own.

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Speaker 3: This wasn't an AD that was approved by the federal

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Speaker 3: government and Carnee and sanctioned by them. Looks like he

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Speaker 3: kind of went and did this on his own and

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Speaker 3: really upset Trump. And because of this ad, Trump has

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Speaker 3: shut down all conversations with Canada on these trade negotiations.

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Speaker 3: This is a war that Canada cannot win. There is

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Speaker 3: no way that they are going to end up winning

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Speaker 3: this and and in fact, I think this AD just

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Speaker 3: made things just one hundred times worse for them for

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Speaker 3: the exact reason that you said, you know what, do

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Speaker 3: not dare come into our country and use Ronald Reagan's

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Speaker 3: own words against us? Not a chance. That's just not

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Speaker 3: going to go well. And that was not a smart

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Speaker 3: move by that premiere.

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Speaker 2: So Trump has suggested that the AD was intended to

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Speaker 2: influence the Supreme Court case on tariffs, and now the

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Speaker 2: Reagan Foundation reviewing their legal options regarding the ADS use.

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Speaker 2: So this is the second time now that Trump has

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Speaker 2: terminated trade talks with Canada.

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Speaker 1: The first one occurred in June.

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Speaker 2: But Doug Ford is the younger brother of Rob Ford.

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Speaker 3: Yees. So if this name sounds familiar, and there was

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Speaker 3: a Canadian politician about ten twelve years ago named Rob

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Speaker 3: Ford and he was the mayor of Toronto, and Doug

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Speaker 3: Ford is his brother, they look very similar. They're speaking,

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Speaker 3: mannerisms in style are very similar, and both have a

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Speaker 3: track record of kind of going off the rails a

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Speaker 3: little bit. Yep.

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Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, Rob Ford the brother he admitted to

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Speaker 2: smoking crack cocaine.

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Speaker 6: You asked me, You asked me a question back in May,

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Speaker 6: and you can repeat that question.

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Speaker 3: Is the question we asked him back in May?

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Speaker 6: Can you use you? You asked me a couple of questions,

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Speaker 6: and what.

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Speaker 5: Were those questions?

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Speaker 3: Do you smoke crack cocaine? Exactly?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I have some look at crack cocaine, but no

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Speaker 6: do I am I an addict?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: When have I tried it? Probably in one of my

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Speaker 6: drunken stupors.

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Speaker 3: Probably talk remember about a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Stop talking.

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Speaker 6: I answered your question. You asked the question properly, I'll

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Speaker 6: answer it. Yes, I've made misakes. I've made mistakes. All

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Speaker 6: I can do now is apologize and move on.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what guys, okay, I can I just all.

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Speaker 6: I can say is I've made mistakes. That's and you

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Speaker 6: guys can't referring to alcohol. There was a couple like

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Speaker 6: slate incidents. There's been times when I've been in a

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Speaker 6: drunken stupor. That's why I want to see the tape.

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Speaker 6: I want everyone in the city to.

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Speaker 3: See this tape.

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Speaker 1: May stop talking. He's making it worse.

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Speaker 2: First of all, he begged the reporters to repeat the

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Speaker 2: question that they had originally asked him, and then he

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Speaker 2: admitted to smoking crack cocaine and then blamed it on

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Speaker 2: being in a drunken stupor. Like it's getting worse.

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Speaker 3: Stop talking. I'm so glad that his brother, current you know,

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Speaker 3: PM of Ontario came in and was in the news

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Speaker 3: because it reminded I'd forgot all about Rob Ford. There

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Speaker 3: was a period of time ten to twelve years ago

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Speaker 3: when when Rob Ford was the mayor of Toronto, and

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Speaker 3: he would have a press conference every couple of days

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Speaker 3: where he'd say something totally ridiculous like this, and by

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Speaker 3: the way him smoking crack. That video is not the

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Speaker 3: worst thing they ended up getting released. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 3: out there, And the interview we just heard of Rob

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Speaker 3: Ford also not the most ridiculous thing he's ever done.

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Speaker 3: And in fact, we did have some audio about a

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Speaker 3: completely different subject that was even more ridiculous than him

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Speaker 3: smoking crack, but we really couldn't find a way to

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Speaker 3: clean it up enough to make it arable on an

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Speaker 3: FCC regulated radio station.

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Speaker 2: Not put that audio clip of him saying even something

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Speaker 2: more salacious, because I thought it was just too offensive

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Speaker 2: even for me to ask Kevin to pull the audio.

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Speaker 1: But this is the older brother of Doug Ford.

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Speaker 2: Of Doug Ford, the guy who's running the Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 2: ads in Canada.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously one of the most entertaining political families to

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Speaker 3: ever come out of Canadian politics, uh huh. Not for

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Speaker 3: their bad not entertaining to them, but certainly entertaining to me.

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Speaker 3: And certainly both of those brothers have a track record

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Speaker 3: of kind of going off the reservation and doing things

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Speaker 3: on their own when the rest of the government's like, hey,

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Speaker 3: hold on there, settle down.

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Speaker 2: But it does make you wonder if bad choices run

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Speaker 2: in that family.

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Speaker 3: Clearly bad choices running that family. I can't believe we

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Speaker 3: couldn't play that other clip.

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Speaker 1: It It is too much.

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Speaker 3: It's so ridiculous, too much, and so outrageous, naughty words

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Speaker 3: and so hilarious. And you're like, in fact, I showed

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Speaker 3: it to you last night and the first thing you

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Speaker 3: said to me is, oh, that's AI, right, Like, no,

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Speaker 3: this is this was like twenty twelve. This is way

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Speaker 3: before AI ever existed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real, highly inappropriate though.

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Speaker 2: So. Shoppers are increasingly deal focused due to tariffs and

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Speaker 2: economic uncertainty. We're two months away from Christmas. I know

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Speaker 2: many of you this week are focusing on Halloween. You've

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Speaker 2: got that in treating in costumes and Halloween becoming what

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Speaker 2: the second biggest holiday of the year people spend on.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to call Halloween a holiday?

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Speaker 3: Really, why not?

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Speaker 1: In my mind, it's not a holiday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what's just it's what day? What criteria have

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Speaker 3: to be met for it to be called a holidays?

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of federal holiday. You don't get off work.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's with or without a government's show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So either the federal or state government declaring it

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Speaker 3: an official state or federal holiday. That's one criteria you

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Speaker 3: have for a holiday. Okay, what else?

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably.

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Speaker 3: You just feel like it's kind of a made up

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's totally made up holiday.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably.

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Speaker 2: Has a lot to do with my upbringing and the

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Speaker 2: fact that Halloween was not celebrated in my house.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you went trigger treating though it.

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Speaker 2: Trigger treating, but there weren't decorations. And the costume, like

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Speaker 2: the one costume that I remember from trick or treating

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Speaker 2: was in any gen X is going to totally relate

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Speaker 2: to this.

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Speaker 1: It was a plastic mask. Oh yeah, the full face.

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Speaker 2: Mask, and then you had like a plastic I guess

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Speaker 2: you call it a drape of a costume.

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Speaker 3: It was. It was essentially a garbage bag with holes

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Speaker 3: cut it, That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: And it had the print out on top of it

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Speaker 2: of what you were supposed to be. And I was

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Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse and remember smelling the plastic and having a

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Speaker 2: hard time breathing and walking around with my pillow case.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think it was specifically your family though,

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Speaker 3: that that was that were the outliers in the late

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Speaker 3: seventies early eighties, Halloween was nowhere near what it was

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Speaker 3: to My family didn't put up Halloween decorations. I went

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Speaker 3: trigger treating every year, but that was about it was exactly.

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Speaker 3: But that was that was the vast majority of the population.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Halloween has exploded, especially the last twenty years,

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Speaker 3: into this massive holiday where people are putting twenty and

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Speaker 3: thirty foot you fake skeletons in there in their yard.

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Speaker 3: And I've seen now people putting up Halloween lights like

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Speaker 3: they put up Christmas lights, and costumes have been more

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Speaker 3: elaborate than they've ever been before. So I don't think

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Speaker 3: that you you had probably a very average Halloween experience

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Speaker 3: as a child. It's just that every child today is

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Speaker 3: different than the way things were back then.

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 2: So the k Pop costume is very popular, and that's

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Speaker 2: from a Netflix show and apparently they only ordered so

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Speaker 2: many and they're running out, and that's what many of

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Speaker 2: the kids are wanting to be this So.

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Speaker 3: Now this is it's getting even closer to Christmas where

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have fist fights at Target when people are

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Speaker 3: fighting over costumes for Halloween her holidays. Normally it's over

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Speaker 3: the hot toy of the Christmas season. Now it's duking

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Speaker 3: it out over who's going to get the last Jack

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Speaker 3: Sparrow costume.

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Speaker 2: In regards to Christmas shopping, guess what they're already putting

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Speaker 2: it out. Retailers are reporting that consumers are trading down

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Speaker 2: this year rather than getting a premium item.

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Speaker 3: Trading down, trading down, that's what they're calling it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll get a premium instead of getting a premium

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Speaker 2: label or brand. You're you're gonna get a lesser than

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Speaker 2: still in the same vein as the gift, but just

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Speaker 2: one that's maybe not the five star.

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Speaker 3: Can't we just come out and say we're spending less.

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Speaker 1: It is the Kendel a Casey Show. It's ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 1: You want to give a shout out to somebody in

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Speaker 1: the YouTube chat.

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Speaker 3: The Kendell of Casey Show listeners are the best listeners

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Speaker 3: in the world because I love it when they play along.

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Speaker 3: Last segment, we talked about former Canadian politician Rob Ford

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Speaker 3: and how he was, you know, said all these ridiculous things.

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Speaker 3: We had all these clips to choose from. There was

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Speaker 3: a specific the clip that was just too hot for

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Speaker 3: us to play. We couldn't play it, so I want

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Speaker 3: to shout out Michael in the YouTube chat, all he

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Speaker 3: said is I have more than enough to eat at home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he knew that is the he was playing on.

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Speaker 3: That's the end of the most famous Rob Ford clip

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Speaker 3: in in existence. So if you're anywhere near a little squeamish,

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Speaker 3: do not google rob Ford. I have more than enough to.

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Speaker 2: Eat everybody, now, don't don't do that.

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Speaker 3: You cannot blame me for it at all. And if

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Speaker 3: anybody you can blame Michael in the YouTube chat where

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Speaker 3: you can watch this show, if you just go to

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Speaker 3: YouTube and type in Kendall and Casey in the YouTube

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Speaker 3: search bar, You're right.

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Speaker 1: We do have the best listeners. They are tuned in,

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Speaker 1: they know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's clips like fifteen years old. And he

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Speaker 3: was able to quote the end of it right there.

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Speaker 3: Michael in the YouTube chat, propo to you for playing along.

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Speaker 3: You're the listener of the day. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this news about cruise ships. They are

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Speaker 2: seeing a record year.

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Speaker 3: Oh good for outbreaks? Oh not good.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty five has seen twenty gastro intestinal illness it

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Speaker 2: breaks on cruise ships.

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Speaker 1: It's a new record.

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Speaker 3: Seems like we go through this with cruise ships. Every

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Speaker 3: few years there's a new cycle and we get all

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Speaker 3: of these horror stories and videos of the video problems

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Speaker 3: with cruise ships, and they usually end up having to

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Speaker 3: do with some awful stomach bug and broken cruise ship plumbing.

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Speaker 3: Do the math on how those two things don't work

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Speaker 3: very well.

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Speaker 1: Again, not a good time.

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Speaker 2: So Triple A is projecting that twenty point seven million

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Speaker 2: Americans will cruise this year, and that's a rise from

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Speaker 2: twenty one point seven million and uh or actually they're

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Speaker 2: expecting there to rise to twenty one point seven million

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Speaker 2: next year, but it is an eight point four increase

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Speaker 2: from last year. So regardless of all of these stories

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Speaker 2: about these outbreaks and people being affected on these cruise

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Speaker 2: ships and then plumbing breaking on the cruise ships, people

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Speaker 2: are still excited to get on those boats.

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Speaker 3: I've only been on one cruise in my entire life,

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Speaker 3: and I still don't know if I like cruises or not.

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Speaker 3: I had a great time because you and I went

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Speaker 3: with some family and we had It was the people

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Speaker 3: we went with that made that vacation. I'm sure I

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Speaker 3: would have been just as happy. And you know you

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Speaker 3: Clearwater Beach Florida as I would have been on the

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Speaker 3: cruise shop.

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Speaker 1: You liked it because you were there with me, that

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Speaker 1: is Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: I was there with you. We were there with some

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Speaker 3: family and also an important point, we had the unlimited

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Speaker 3: drink package.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It may have been a contributing festor.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't hurt. It is The Kenderly Casey Show.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three w I Easy