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Speaker 1: Lie from ball Heart Plainer and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: So the futures today when we talk about the market started,

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Speaker 1: huge up for the Dow and massive down for the Nasdaq,

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Speaker 1: and then you took a look at things as the

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Speaker 1: don't quite understand what's going on here. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how this is supposed to work. I'm not even sure

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Speaker 1: how people see this economy right now. And you see

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Speaker 1: oil prices had moved back up to one hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: to eighty dollars because Trump said for two days we're

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Speaker 1: not going to fire any weapons at him, and that

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Speaker 1: was enough. I think that the market is a silly place,

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Speaker 1: and I think that the market, like you, doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: represent Midwest Main Street. For what is it that we

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Speaker 1: can learn? What is it that it's trying to tell

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Speaker 1: DOO and the overall and the Nasdaq and the overall,

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Speaker 1: and what about things like SpaceX which opened up at

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Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five dollars a share.

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Speaker 2: This is Elon Musk's company.

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Speaker 1: It's skyrockets to two hundred, then it falls down to

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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten. This normal for an IPO Or

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Speaker 1: is there something else at play?

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Speaker 2: Is there an opportunity for all of us? Or is

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Matt will joins us economist at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: It's really fascinating that we see the Dow moving the

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Speaker 1: And this is the second week in a row where

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Speaker 1: all taking the hits, which is insane because all the

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Speaker 1: AI people need the chip in order to have the

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Speaker 1: Walk us through a path, or down a path, or

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Speaker 1: I have amazes. I don't know where we are, doctor Mattweil, economist,

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Speaker 1: What the hell are we looking at?

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Speaker 3: I am happy to explain it to everyone, and it's

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Speaker 3: not that complicated. There is no panic. Everyone should relax.

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Speaker 3: This is what we would typically call a sector rotation.

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Speaker 3: The market is trying to figure it out. AI is here,

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Speaker 3: it's producing efficiency, the economy is growing, chip stocks are

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Speaker 3: There is going to be this month, next month, next year,

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Speaker 3: five years. So the market is simply reevaluating in repricing

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Speaker 3: all this AI in tech news. That's not a problem.

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Speaker 3: It's so unknown. What we do know it's going to

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Speaker 3: be phenomenal. I mean, Meta this week they borrowed twelve

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Speaker 3: This is trying to just figure it out. So the

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Speaker 1: That figuring out would be a lot easier if it

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Speaker 1: flowed by a normal, normal rhythm. We take a look

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Speaker 1: at oil prices. For example, you're telling me three days

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Speaker 1: But things have already come down while we were firing missiles.

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Speaker 1: So what we see is not a question to panic.

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Speaker 1: What is it that they look at? So let's move

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Speaker 3: not what the market wants. The market wants stability. They

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Speaker 3: And you've heard me say a million times I wish

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Speaker 3: Don't watch it. You should not be investing in individual

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Speaker 1: I have got questions about SpaceX, and full disclosure, I

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's just the unknown, Tony, that's really all.

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Speaker 2: What's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Where else is this happening? You know, if we take

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Speaker 2: Where else within the tech sector is this this happening?

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's merge tech with financial services, so fintech as

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Speaker 1: Was These things usually pop and then fall, and that's

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Speaker 3: It is so boring.

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Speaker 1: I do know when we go back to SpaceX and

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, the reporting is that either the yes, I

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Speaker 3: But the funny part is we don't know exactly who

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Speaker 3: From the Stock Act of twenty twelve. They're not banned

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Speaker 1: Doctor Matt Will coming out swinging economists, University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us.

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Speaker 1: We've got more to get to keep it here, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is Tony Katz today. I think it's okay to

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, He's not a Republican.

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Speaker 1: I have said clearly that the Center from Pennsylvania is

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Speaker 1: but you hear talk like this. He was on CNBC

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Speaker 1: unflappable on these things. No, don't get me wrong. I

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Speaker 1: Watching the Pontiac Platinum. Bravo, Truly, John Fetterman, well played.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today. Last week I made a

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Speaker 1: very basic statement, Sophie Cunningham, Indiana fever WNBA should not

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Speaker 2: These are basic, normal things.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing spectacular or interesting or brave about it. Normal, normal, normal,

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Speaker 2: But somehow everybody is decided.

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Speaker 1: That it needs to be dissected, it needs to be

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Speaker 2: I don't have any anger. I'm not angry with you.

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Speaker 1: can do. I can simply remove my genitals and that'll

434
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Speaker 1: make everything better.

435
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: That's not a normal thing to do. It's not.

436
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: And that's why when I take a look at Minnesota

437
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: and they've alllwd, the University of Minnesota has created these dolls.

438
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: It's help four year olds understand gender. A four year

439
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: old is now led to believe that you can remove

440
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: your genitals and it's normal. You know what they haven't

441
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: discussed when the four year old gets this doll in

442
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: the genitals or you can move them like it's a

443
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: mister potato head and they decide, you know what, gonna

444
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: remove my own genitals. Now you say to me, Tony,

445
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: that will never happen. That never happened from a mister

446
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: potato head. Well that was also a giants potato and

447
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: they didn't think of themselves as a potato. But this

448
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: is a doll of a person and I'm hoping it

449
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: never happens, and I will not be surprised the day

450
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: that it does. But if you want to talk about

451
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: confusing children and the goal being to mutilate those children,

452
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: because I think the people who mutilate the children, actually

453
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: they get off on it. That is my take. They

454
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: have got their own twisted sickness. They have their own

455
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: mental illness. The problem is they want to be able

456
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: to abuse others with their mental illness. And man, you

457
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: should go to jail for that. But a boy thinks

458
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: he's a girl.

459
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: Who has a mental illness and something we can help with.

460
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 2: It is something we can help with.

461
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: And I do always say I do talk about children.

462
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: I rarely talk about adults. I simply say that a

463
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: man can't say they're a woman in competing in women's sports. No,

464
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: the answer is no, you made a decision and that

465
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: decision is based on mental illness. And I'm talking about

466
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: the American Psychiatric Association, I'm talking about the diagnostic Manual.

467
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: The DSM five.

468
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: It's written right there, gender dysphoria on the not making

469
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: anything up.

470
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: But your decisions do not get to.

471
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: Play on other people's decisions, which is where I consistently

472
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: come down on this. You don't get to do that.

473
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: You made a decision so other people have to change

474
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: their lives.

475
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 2: Screw off. That is just wrong, And it's wrong.

476
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: Wrong to take Sophie Cunningham here and rip her asunder

477
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: on all these issues.

478
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: But that's what we're seeing people doing.

479
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: Exactly what I didn't want to have happened with every

480
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: Cunningham taking her comments and saying, how do I use

481
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Speaker 1: these for my purpose, for my advantage. And so there's

482
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Speaker 1: this two statements where she said, quote, I got a

483
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: lot of negative feedback about me hitting trans and I'm like,

484
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: I never once said that. I think that I'm here

485
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: to extend love, but I also think what that love

486
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: is truth, being honest, and I want to protect young

487
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: girls in a locker room or young girls in sport

488
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: who shouldn't have to go against iological men. Right, So

489
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: that was the comment that had some people going after

490
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: and then she said, I said what I said. I

491
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: think it's kind of common sense, and I think I'll

492
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: always believe in that. I think it's really important to

493
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: protect children and that little girls who are also involved

494
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Speaker 1: in that category. And so I'll stand on what I

495
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: said and I'll always believe that. And I caught this

496
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Speaker 1: a story just some of the responses on zero hedge

497
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: good site zero hedge dot com, and he writes rule

498
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Speaker 1: number one when dealing with the political left, never apologize

499
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: to the political left. It won't shut them up. They

500
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: will smell blood in the water and attack even more aggressively.

501
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Cunningham seems to understand this rule.

502
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Speaker 2: Well.

503
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: Now, I do not know as she does or she doesn't.

504
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: But that was a very very astute point and worthy

505
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: of noting because we can apply this everywhere. Never ever

506
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: apologize for being normal and saying normal things and kind

507
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: of demanding that we support normal stuff. We don't utilate children.

508
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to apologize to the person screaming if

509
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: you don't allow them to change their gender by mutilating them,

510
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: they'll kill themselves, they'll harm themselves. I don't have to

511
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: apologize for my knowledge that that is wrong your gender

512
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: and not being able to do this. Not being able

513
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: to do that has nothing to do with happiness. Happiness

514
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: comes from inside. It doesn't come from the other things.

515
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Oh sure, there's somebody who's had a nose

516
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: job in their life and been like, you know what,

517
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: this is so much better. I am so much happier

518
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: I did this. It wasn't changing who they were fundamentally

519
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: as a person. It wasn't lying about who they are,

520
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: and it wasn't demanding that other people lie. You want

521
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: everybody to play into somebody else's fantasy. That's that is

522
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: very ugly. That is very very violent, violent stuff. I'm

523
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: not going to apologize for saying no, I want no

524
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: part of that. I'm not going to apologize for saying sorry,

525
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm not playing the gender game with you.

526
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 2: No no, no no no no no no no.

527
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Not doing it, not having any part of it. The

528
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: answer is no, you don't apologize. Am I going to

529
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: apologize for noting that Islam needs to go through a

530
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: reformation and Muslims need to lead this charge.

531
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: And when you.

532
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: See Muslims stabbing people in Paris, running people over in Berlin,

533
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: why aren't they speaking up by the hundreds of thousands

534
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: to say this is wrong? Silence, total silence, absolute silence.

535
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: Where is the statement to say this is wrong?

536
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: And when some people have said, this is simply not

537
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: a religion, This is a political system and it is

538
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: abusive and oppressive. Ion here cle lives every day of

539
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: her life under threat. Who's the guy who wrote the

540
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 1: say tag versus? I can picture him? Who's the guy

541
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: who wrote the Satanic verses? Why can't I remember his name?

542
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: Solomon Rushdi? I could picture the dude and I could.

543
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: Not remember his name.

544
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: That I went full Joe Biden right there. Good Lord,

545
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: did you know, by the way, that Solomon Rushdi was

546
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: married to Padmula Lakshmi. That is very impressive. Impressive, very

547
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: very very impressive, pad Malakshmi, that's a brab vissimo. Well

548
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: done and well played. Right there, Salomon Rushdi. That guy

549
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: lives under threat. It happens time and again and again

550
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: and again. Are we not supposed to notice that when

551
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: a guy goes about stabbing only women and then when

552
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: confronted and brought to the ground, the knives are moved

553
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: from him.

554
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: Well, Allah commands me to that. That's a problem.

555
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: That is not something we have to accept that when

556
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: people say to me, oh, you're justin islamophobe, Now, I'm

557
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: not paying attention to that.

558
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: We're not gonna have that. We've got an.

559
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: Issue and normal people know you don't go around stabbing women.

560
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: And if your religion commands you to, your religion's a

561
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: real problem.

562
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: Now.

563
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: The real problem here is that Islam is not a religion.

564
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Don't get upset with me. I can quote emams who

565
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: say that it is a political system that covers every

566
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: aspect of life, and they don't believe that we should

567
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: have a constitution they don't believe in Western civilization everything

568
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: should be run by the Shariah. That's them, And people

569
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: get upset with me for noticing I can't worry about

570
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: those things. The reformation has to come from inside the house.

571
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: They have to make the changes, and we sure as

572
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: hell aren't going to get abused their lack of changes.

573
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna say that's not right. We're gonna say that's

574
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: an issue. We're going to say no to that, to

575
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: this not normal behavior. And the not normal behavior isn't

576
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: you living your life according to some code that I

577
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: may disagree with. It's that you thinking I should have

578
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: to live my life by your code and I don't

579
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: agree with it, and you think you can physically assault me,

580
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: army stab our women, and that somehow will give in. No,

581
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: it's the same argument. It's the same argument that I

582
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: give to these.

583
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: People who want to abuse children.

584
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: And to the point over there of the website zero

585
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: hedge dot com and Sophie Cunningham, Yes, never apologize, never, never, never,

586
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: never apologize.

587
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: You don't have to apologize for being normal. You don't

588
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: have to apologize for stating quite clearly, these are not

589
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: things we do.

590
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: And someone's gonna say, and oh, so, Tony, you don't

591
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: think Muslims are normal. I didn't say that. I think

592
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: if you live by a code that says you can

593
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: stab women in public, and you could then say your

594
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: God commanded you to, Yeah, that's not normal. We should

595
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: say so that's not normal. We don't put up with that.

596
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: We push back on that, and whatever it takes, Kitton, society.

597
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: Has to push back on that as.

598
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: A whole and end that nonsense, just like we have

599
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: to end the nonsense of people thinking they can mutilate children,

600
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: which is why I favor taking the doctors you mutilate

601
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: children and removing their licenses. No, we don't do this.

602
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: You don't get to practice medicine anymore. Absolutely not. Some

603
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: doctor over prescribes a pain pill under the in the

604
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: eyes of the dea, they get persecuted every which way

605
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: from Sunday and very often they lose their ability to

606
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: make a living. Somebody mutilates children, lies to parents, and

607
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: we should what give them another shot? Nah, you go

608
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: do something else with your life. We don't do that here.

609
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: We're normal.

610
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: Now.

611
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: One could argue that there are a lot of things

612
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: that happen within religion that aren't normal your religion, my religion, others' religions. This,

613
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: by the way, was the entire thesis of Christopher Hitchins,

614
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: with this concept of God is not great, is that

615
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: religion makes otherwise good people do absolutely terrible things. And

616
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: he would talk about things throughout history and need to

617
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: talk about customs and things like that. And I've always

618
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: said about Christopher Hitchins.

619
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's right, but he's not wrong.

620
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: And certainly there is a grappling and a wrestling that

621
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: can be done and should be done. But if we

622
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: can't clearly say you don't mutilate children, I don't know

623
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to say. We can't say you don't

624
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: get to stab women, don't stab women. Oh you think

625
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: you can stab women? We don't say we don't do

626
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: that here, Well, then we're lost. We're broken. I can't

627
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: solve every problem, but my gosh, we can solve some

628
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: of them. And it starts by certainly not apologizing, and

629
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: it starts by saying, yeah, that's the normal position.

630
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: That's the base position.

631
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Speaker 1: You know, I call it normally, you'll call it base,

632
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: you call it the starting point position. That's the starting

633
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: point position, and these other people they're in some far

634
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: off world. They're the issue. They're the problem, not you

635
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: for starting off with the base position. Don't ever apologize

636
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: for that. This is Tony Katz today. Next steps with Iran.

637
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: I have absolutely no idea, and I have to assume

638
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: that when the President says we're trying to talk and

639
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: if we have to hit them back harder. What I've

640
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: learned is that he is at least willing to hit them.

641
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: But the idea that there's any talking and we're working

642
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: on a deal, there's no deal to be made. Trump

643
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: has shown me that he'll punch them. He has also

644
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: shown me that he seems to have an issue with

645
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: throwing the finishing punch. And I don't know why that is.

646
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: Maybe indeed it is because we don't have the weaponry

647
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: to do the finishing punch. Maybe it's because to do

648
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: the finishing punch you actually have to do more than

649
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: just drop the bomb.

650
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Speaker 2: You have to do something else.

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Speaker 1: Well, that will go back to this conversation we've been

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Speaker 1: having about whether or not this is about siege. Can

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Speaker 1: we just wait them out until they crack? Why can't

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Speaker 1: that be the case. And if that's the case, why

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Speaker 1: would we you stop bombing, or maybe you don't need

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Speaker 1: to bomb because you're already keeping them from making money

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Speaker 1: and you've already.

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Speaker 2: Done enough damage.

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to try and find the way, but this

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Speaker 1: all makes Trump look really bad and weak. That's not

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Speaker 2: Everyone to take care

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