1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Through a state Lega Pravada. It's a very nice cigar. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: It's a very very nice cigar. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: I happen to be a massive fan of the Feral 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Flying Pig. There's something about that cigar, The construction of 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: that cigar, the feel of that cigar is spectacular. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: When I find a box, I buy the whole box. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: It's eat, drink, smell, com Tony kats that right there 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: is Fingers Maloy. He's America's favorite amateur drinker. My voice 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: is going because of allergies. I'm fine, Fingers. I'm so 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: glad you asked me. You're worried about my health and 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: well being. I am fine, I am healthy. I am healthy, 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Fingers May. I am super duper healthy and ready to go. 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: I could run a marathon. Is there something wrong with 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: your voice? 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's allergies. I'm losing my voice a little bit. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh do you need a recola? 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: So with the people at Liga Pravada, you had the rollers. 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: I always get. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: The name wrong. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: My pronunciation of other language is terrible. Torsadores. These are 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: the rollers. 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Now. I always thought the word meant spindles, but same concept. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: So they would smoke these Liga bravadas, except the tobacco 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: was not easy to come by. They needed it for 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: the cigars, and so the rollers are like, well, what 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: are we going to smoke? So they took some other 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: tobacco and made a cigar and said, okay, we'll smoke this. 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: That became the undergrown. So when you see from Liga 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: Bravada the undercrown, this is what the rollers created for 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: themselves to smoke while they were rolling the Liga Bravadas. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: And this is the maduro. So what we're smoking here 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: is an absolutely beautiful six by fifty two, which means 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: it's six inches long. He always makes fingers when only laugh. 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: And the ring age is the fifty two the diameter 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: of the cigar or how thick it is around me 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: again with the laughter, Mexican sanadreas in the wrapper, the 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: binder is Brazilian. 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: It is a Honduran and and nicaraguin filler. 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: That rapper, the grit, the oil, it's gritty and smooth 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: and oily. This this is basically how I want my skin. 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm assuming this is what George Hamilton feels like all 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: the time. Ah, that's that's that's a George Hamilton reference. 43 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: You're welcome Senior America in his current conditions. 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: George Hamilton dead, I believe so. 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Oh oh, you tease it, but you don't know. Let 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: us know, let us know, please, And if you are 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: a lot, sir Hamilton, we'd love to have you on 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: the show. And if you're not, sir Man, we wish 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: we had you on the show. Uh, this feels right 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: good in the hand, great, great feel on the rapper 51 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,119 Speaker 2: and uh, there's a little bit of a billy club 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: right here. 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: You could hit somebody and they would feel it. Fingers, 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: they would. You're you're looking up with see whether or not. George. 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: How by the way, George Hamilton, if he hit you 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: right now now, you'd feel it. He's eighty six years young, 57 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: is that right? 58 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: You guy got him on the show. You have to 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: get George Hamilton on the show. 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Hamilton, I would love it if you came 61 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: on our show. I said you were dead on the air. 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Right, and we would like to correct the record if 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: we could after him, James Buchanan, I can. By the way, 64 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: I guarantee you that he is dead. This is a 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: good feeling. Cigar Spinger's boy, you're already lit up here. 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: What do you got going on? 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Honestly, we just lit this up. We're just in the 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: first third of the first third of the cigar and 69 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: I am getting hit with a nice bit of pepper 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: and spice and that's about it. So unfortunately, I have 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: nothing to add other than that. That does I have 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: a nice hand feel to it. There's not that whiffle 73 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: ball bat sensation for me. And I'll be interested to 74 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: see how this develops over the course of the first 75 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: third the cigar. What do you get? 76 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: You seem unpleased? H Did something happen on the way here? 77 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: Did something happen before the way? 78 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Here? Something happened before the way here? Is it something 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: you'd like to share? I kind of teased it off 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: the air with you, but I don't know if I 81 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: want to get into it on the air. 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: No. 83 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Why is it so hard to get an eighty seven 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: year old man his driver's license in Indiana? That's all 85 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: George Hamilton. We're trying, we really are. 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: So first things first, with the Undercrown, you're going to 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: get a full body tigar. 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,559 Speaker 1: This is absolutely a full body tigar. 89 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: So if you're somebody who does a medium, this might 90 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: be a nice way, and we'll get into cost of 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: trying some of those bigger smokes. 92 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: We're doing the Maduro version of this. 93 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: There's also a Connecticut shade version of the Undercrown, a 94 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: secondly drew A state. I remember the original guy there 95 00:04:54,400 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: was with Steve Soaka. This they're construct action is excellent. 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: I was talking about that feral flying pig. Now there's 97 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: the flying pig, which is much smaller. I like the 98 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: feral flying pig. I'm telling you, Compare everything I have 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: ever smoked. There's something about that specific cigar. It is 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: the greatest construction to me out there. This thing is 101 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: because it has that feel. It's got the hand feel 102 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: absolutely perfect. I don't know if I'm necessarily into spice 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: at the moment. Right now, I'm actually picking up a 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: little bit of of of wood. I'm picking up a 105 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: little bit of bitter, which would signal to me a 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: level of dark chocolate, nice, easy, simple, and an absolute crap. 107 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: Ton of smoke. Yeah, I was actually gonna say I 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: was starting to pick up leather. So I don't know 109 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: you're saying wood. No. 110 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you're more onto it right maybe may maybe 111 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: you're you're refined palette is hitting it directly. 112 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: You are so angry, dude, I'm not angry. Look at you. Okay, 113 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: you want to know the truth. I want. I only 114 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: want to know the truth. 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: I ate six out of eight pieces of a hot 116 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: and ready pizza on the way here, So. 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: That is not true. Wait, that's totally true. I apologize. 118 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: I apologize. Eat your expect nation. 119 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: We all know that fingers will I ate three quarters 120 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 2: of a Little Caesar's pizza before he arrived. 121 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: We all know the other two slices are in the car, 122 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: aren't they. No, No, my goodness, I would never do that. 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: I left it for the family. I can imagine the 124 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: daughter's disappointment when she walks home and sees a a 125 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: pizza box on the counter and there are two pieces left. 126 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: You want to take your cigar and you want to 127 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: break it up at the thirds in your mind. I 128 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: had to be right past that first third, second third, 129 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 2: and final third. And you want grab your notebooks. What 130 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: did you eat today? What did you drink today? All 131 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: of those things matter. Whether humidity is broken. Here in Indianapolis, Indiana, 132 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: where we record from, we've had some nice breezes, some 133 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: nice weather, a little bit of rain today, so a 134 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: touch more humidity than we've had. And then you want 135 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: to write down your flavors. What is it that you're 136 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: getting out of each third of the. 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Cigar right in your notebook. 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: And when you try the cigar a month from now, 139 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: six months around, for whatever it is, you try it again, 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: do the same thing. Compare your notes, get your through lines. 141 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: What does it really felt about the cigar? And if 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: different foods maybe affect different flavors in different ways. 143 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, if I eat this, I should really smoke that. 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: It's a nice way to kind of judge things and 145 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: get yourself a good reference point. 146 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: It's just the best time of year for smoking a cigar. 147 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: We're getting ready to kiss fall college football right on 148 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: the mouth. Yes, college football, open mouth right around the court. 149 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: Because I am a passionate lover. I read that on 150 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: a bathroom wall. 151 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: You know. This weekend the big game Vasser is playing 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: fab Oh. I cannot wait. It's gonna be on all 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: the televisions at Sports part It's an animal. 154 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: House college favor college ladies and gentlemen. Fingers on woy. 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: This is the undergrown Maduro from Drewis State. This is 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: a very very easy going but big stick in that 157 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: it's an easy draw. 158 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: You know that you're gonna get something larger. 159 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to question whether that this is going 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: to be a massive, massive thing. You know exactly what 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: it's going to be, and it's going to be that. 162 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: Every single time they actually referred to this as the 163 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: Liga Undergrown Madurea. Did you see in Mexico where members 164 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: of parliament got into a fistfight. 165 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it was something about natural grass versus AstroTurf. 166 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: That's probably it right there, t drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. 167 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. 168 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what it was about. As I'm talking 169 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: to you all, I know, Yeah, it's Mexico. Someone's angry 170 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: with somebody else, and Guy A kind of grabs Guy B. 171 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: And Guy B is like, hey, don't grab me, and 172 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: Guy A is like what bam, punch push. Another guy 173 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: comes in, he gets pushed over. 174 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Did anybody get hit in the back with a steel chair? 175 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, nobody was wearing a mask. I 176 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: forget what they call those wrestlers. Oh dang it, I 177 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: should know. I should know. Anyway, that's not the story. 178 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: T drink Cherrow, I'll find I did I say it 179 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: was he drink smoke? 180 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Drink smoke. 181 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm Tony kats that right there is America's favorite amateur drinker. 182 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: Fingers molloy, you have an update for us, Oh, I 183 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: do have an update for it. For those who tuned 184 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: into last week's Eat Drink Smoke, Tony went on an 185 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: epic rant about the Cracker Barrel logo change and how 186 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: everyone was getting out of control. 187 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: First of all, Lucidorus, Ah, that's what it was. Lucidorus 188 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: is what it is. Thank you now. 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: Yes, everybody was getting out of control. It was nuts. 190 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: It's a logo change. Move on with your day now. 191 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: If you want to talk about other things that Cracker 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: Barre was doing, policies and promotions and how they run 193 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: their business, fine, but the logo. 194 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: Change was no big deal. It wasn't the end of 195 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: the world. It was actually easier to read. Move on. 196 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: The whole thing was manufactured nonsense. So what is your update. Well, 197 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: the manufactured nonsense, as you refer to it, Tony, actually 198 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: worked because Cracker Barrel backed away from the new logo, 199 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: saying they're bringing back the old timer, Tony, the guy 200 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: leaning against the bears. 201 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: It's like I always said, this is the most important 202 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: thing that has ever happened in America. This logo is 203 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: part of Americana, and if you're going to change it, 204 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: you might as well just kill my grandmother with a 205 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: kitchen knife. I find the whole thing despicable and disgusting. 206 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: And I said, so, I actually led the charge. I'm saying, 207 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: who do you think you are to change the logo. 208 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm the guy you got to speak to about whether 209 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: or not you change your logo at your company there, 210 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: And I said, this cracker barrel, this crackerbarre logo, these 211 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: people could go to hell, That's what I said. Fingers 212 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: one way, and they listen to me. That's the kind 213 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: of power I have over here in Entering Smoke Nation. 214 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Remind everyone where they can donate to your congressional campaign? 215 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: Oh sure, was it that obvious? I still don't care. 216 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't honestly. 217 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 2: America celebrated this like it was some great win, and 218 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: I'm like, if it means that families are going to 219 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: stop fighting for five minutes, all right, great? 220 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, take the silver lining. Sometimes take the w 221 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: to steal a Chris rock bit. Did you run out 222 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: to your mailbox to see if you got your cracker 223 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: barrel prize? I didn't understand it either. I looked at 224 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: it and I thought to myself, I could get upset 225 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: about this, but A, I really really don't care, and 226 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: be I have a step foot in a cracker barrel 227 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: in fifteen years. Yeah, it's been a while. 228 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: I was thinking that last time we were there, driving 229 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: back from when my parents lived in Georgia, driving back 230 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, we weren't going to get back in time. 231 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: We had dinner New Year's Eve cracker bro. 232 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: I think I still think the story is insane, and 233 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: I will tell you that I am a believer that 234 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: you have to fire the CEO. Now you ask me, 235 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 2: why do you have to fire the CEO. You fire 236 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: the CEO because this is somebody who could be easily 237 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: swayed by the masses. 238 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: This is not a leader. You made a change, You 239 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: went through. 240 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: All the steps to say this is better for the brand, 241 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: and then you got some pushback and you didn't not 242 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: even not fight it. You said, oh, we're sorry, we 243 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: listened to our customers. Did you even ask a customer 244 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 2: should we change the logo before you did. What do 245 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: you mean you listened to your customers? What does that mean? 246 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: How exactly were you listening to your customers before that? 247 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: You didn't know that they take that logo and say, 248 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: this is a part of Americana, this is what we want. 249 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't believe you listen to your customers. I don't 250 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: think you cared about your customers. You said, we're going 251 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: to create a new logo which looks an awful lot 252 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: like the old logo and an awful lot like the 253 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: Denny's logo. 254 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: And you said, here's our new logo, and everyone said, 255 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 256 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: And you said, oh gosh, oh gosh, oh gosh, and 257 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: then you wet yourself and then you change back the 258 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: ceo should be fired. 259 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: Counter point if it really looks like your customers have 260 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: been angered to the point where you're gonna lose a 261 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: ton of business, and you're on the SSSSS Titanic cracker 262 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: barrel new logo as the ship is sinking and you're 263 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: moving the deck chairs around instead of saying, you know what, 264 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: people really seem to have a real emotional attachment to 265 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: this logo. I miscalculated what's wrong with the businessman businesswoman 266 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: saying you know, folks, I maybe made a mistake and 267 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to pivot back and make my customer shrinking 268 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: customer base happy. 269 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: So first, you haven't proven to me you had a 270 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: shrinking customer base. Second, there are other things going on, 271 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: like events. They were sponsoring changes to the physical store 272 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: that made it more sterile as opposed to more homie, 273 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: and you could argue that that could have turned off 274 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: some potential customers or existing customers. But you haven't shown 275 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: me where they actually lost customers. You showed me where 276 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: people on social media said, are go bargle anger, like, 277 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: that's what you showed me. It's all you showed me. 278 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: I have no idea what happened here or why. I 279 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: have no idea if it made a difference. You know what, 280 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: I know you as a CEO clearly didn't do your 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: homework and ensuring you ed were making the right move. 282 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: And so therefore you have to go the vice president 283 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: of bud Light, who's like, we need to be more inclusive. 284 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: So therefore we need to have this person who claims 285 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: to be a young girl as our spokesperson, or at 286 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: least on a can of this, Dylan mulvaney, whomever. That's 287 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: where people said, we're not doing this. We just want 288 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: to drink beer. We don't want anybody's politics in our stuff. 289 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: And so for not understanding it, for not really doing 290 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: the work necessary to make a change like this, you 291 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: gotta be fired. 292 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: Maybe circle back for a second. Argle bargel, angry, thank you, 293 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: thank you. So when I name the podcast for next 294 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: week's show, how do you spell argle bargele a r 295 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: g l e b A r g l e. 296 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: But if you want to really get some hits, huh, 297 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: you should name it the Joe Rogan Experience. 298 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, try that. I have a feeling if we 299 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: do that, he'll be going argle bargle, bargel. No, just 300 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: put the headline. 301 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: The title should be we put Joe Rogan in the headline, 302 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: just to see what happens. 303 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: But what is that wrong? You know what? I'm thinking? 304 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: We should do that and then after that, eat, rink, 305 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: smoke logo change. Nice. Nice. I tried. 306 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: I tried to use AI to create cracker barrel logos 307 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: total disaster total total. I said, make me a logo 308 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: that looks like the old cracker barrel logo for Tony 309 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: Katz and it gave. 310 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: Me the Enron logo. Oh, nicely done. 311 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: I stole your line. I was gonna go with kmart 312 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: nice also good. I tried to make the cylinder logo too, 313 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: and then we tried pets dot com. 314 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: I have been on a side note, spending way too 315 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: much time lately on Chat GPT, way too much time 316 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: on it, using it. The whole AI experience is fascinating 317 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: and terrifying at the same time. Were you what were 318 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: you trying to do? Asking it? What? How it sees 319 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: itself in ten years? Oh? He said destroying humanity? 320 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: It was it wasn't lying, was not lying? Find everything 321 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: at eat drinksmokeshow dot com? We have cake to eat. 322 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: We have cake. We have a cake hack that we 323 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: have to eat. Okay, I'm into that. 324 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: Eat drink smoking. It's your cigar bourbon food, the extravaganza. 325 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: I am Tony Kat's that is fingers with loan fingers. 326 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: Nothing says cigars quite like cake. 327 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: I read that somewhere. I think Churchill said it. He did. 328 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 2: He did right there at Gallipoli. We we normally get 329 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: into a news of the week. We will, but uh, 330 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: it is cake time. Uh So I have a ton 331 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: of recipes to go through, ton of things to get to. 332 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: We will, but I've been on a baking binge. I've 333 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: been on a baking binge, and it's all about. As 334 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 2: much as I despise the concept of the influencer, some 335 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: of the people doing food on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, although 336 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't use TikTok, they're doing some really excellent work. 337 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: There's some unique stuff and there have been a lot 338 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: of cake cash taking. You know, you don't have to 339 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: be an expert baker, take a cake mix from a 340 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: box that you get on sale and do something with it. 341 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: So this right here is oohy gooey buttercake. Now. 342 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: This was first introduced to me by a mutual friend, 343 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: Virginia Crudo, who's got a great bakery there on the 344 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: Illinois side of Saint Louis, and I enjoyed it. Then 345 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: we found what they call Neeman Marcus Cake. So Neiman 346 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: Marcus was a department store kind of place, high end, 347 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: high falutin I believe they said, fancy and schmancy. 348 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, many of them had elevators. 349 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: So this is the the hack somehow of this. Hey, 350 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: this is what they were making with with a box 351 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: with a box of cake. Miss came from Betty Crocker. 352 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: We've got two eggs in here, cream cheese is in here, 353 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: of another extract is in here. Uh and actually four 354 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 2: eggs total and melted butter. 355 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: So that's what this is. So what makes it gouey? 356 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: I think what makes it gowey is the love that 357 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: you bring to it. I think the whole purpose here 358 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: is something that works well for coffee, works well, uh 359 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: for the table, and is cheap and easy. I think 360 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: the point here is why spend a fortune when you 361 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: can only look like you did? 362 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: That's that's it. So did you happen to pick this hack? 363 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Because I mentioned, what was it about month or two 364 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: ago that I had never had gooey butter cake? I 365 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: forgot that you had mentioned that, And no, no, I didn't. 366 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: You were in no way in my thoughts when I 367 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: did this only cake? Do you want to try it first? 368 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely? This is my this is my first attempt. So 369 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: it's a bass vanilla cake. 370 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 2: I I I I like I like to I do 371 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: like a dessert, but I don't need it to be 372 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: too much. 373 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: I don't. Are you really on the nose. It smells, uh, 374 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: smells like kind of it was coming. 375 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: He takes his bite of the I don't I guess 376 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: Namon Marcus sold this cake. I didn't know that, the 377 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: Neman Marcus cake hack, the Oohy guey butter cake, Nemus Marcus, 378 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: Nemon Marcus cake. 379 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: Box, cake hack, vanilla? Are you happy? Is it? Texture? Right? 380 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: Is it flavor? Is it not your kind of cake? No? 381 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Hold on, is anything not your kind of cake? Beef cake? 382 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: It's not my kind of cake. Interesting? Having said that, right, 383 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: this is very good. And it's screaming for a cup 384 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: of coffee and some coffee and some vanilla ice cream 385 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: and some vanilla ice cream. It's wonderful. It's very good. 386 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: You need you want coffee? I know somebody that that 387 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't be terrible. I We'll get some coffee. 388 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. It is so good. 389 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: It is straight up vanilla. It is sugary vanilla. It 390 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: is childhood birthday party vanilla. That's it. 391 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: The top is almost crystallized. And oh it's really rich. 392 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: That might be sweeter than I need. I'm I might 393 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: cut the sugar the next time. That's right, I said it. 394 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: That's crazy talk. I might why perfect amount of sugar. 395 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: I actually could use some powder sugar on top up. 396 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: H's what's nice about that? It's this particular cake. Uh, 397 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: it's moist on the bottom of the cake. Yeah, which 398 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: all over to me I wasn't expecting because in the middle, 399 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's dry, but it's drier. It seems 400 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: like the moisture in the cake is in the bottom 401 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: of it. 402 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: In a lot of our conversations, people are when we 403 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: talk about barbecue, they're they're they're kind of afraid. 404 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's true about cooking in general. 405 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: People have this generalized fear that it's not gonna come 406 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: out right, there's gonna be a cost issue, whatever the 407 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: case may be. So I really am loving the idea 408 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: of these things that are simple, simple ways to do something. 409 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: Take something basic, do minimal to it, and get a 410 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: better result. 411 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: Because you could have just made the cake mix and 412 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: be like rip cake mix done. 413 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't take much and will have the full recipe 414 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: up there at eatringsmokeshow dot com. It does not take 415 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: much to do to put a little spin on something 416 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: to create a value out of it. So someone can say, ooh, 417 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: that's interesting it's not just the basic you gave of 418 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: yourself a little bit of it, and I think that's true. 419 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Well, but you you brought up the fear 420 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: of trying something new and uh, maybe going outside of 421 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: your comfort zone to make a dish. I can understand 422 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: that with barbecue. When you are spending eighty to one 423 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: hundred dollars on a brisket, you know, I can understand 424 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: sitting back and saying, man, I really don't want to 425 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: screw this up. Where how much was the Betty Crocker? 426 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, hey we got it on sale for 427 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: ninety nine cents. Yeah, so you screw that up? You're like, 428 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? But you you really really 429 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: really have to be awful at baking to screw up 430 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: a cake. Well, so wait a second, really bad baking. 431 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Cooking is art. Baking a science. That's number one. It 432 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: is to make it inedible. Though, Yeah, well take care 433 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: of the box. Well with the box, no, just follow, 434 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: but you're following the directions. You don't just add a 435 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: little bit of this or a stickle a floor ride away. 436 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about baking a cake from scratch. I'm 437 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: talking about you've got the Betty Crocker box in your hand. 438 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: You Betty is holding your hand, right she is. You 439 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't be, you know, worried that you're gonna screw that up. 440 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: But here's something that you could do a little bit 441 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: too to turn it from basic too unique and uh, 442 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: if you're worried about your your brisket, you won't if 443 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: you get your brisket from Defiance Beef Defiance Beef dot Com, 444 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: use from a code, eat, drink, smoke, and get one 445 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars off your order. You're talking about 446 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: being able to order your cow and you can a 447 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: quarter cow, have cow, a full cow, and they will 448 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: call you and say your cow is ready. What would 449 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: you like ribbis, you want strips, you want porterhouse, you 450 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 2: want a tender lang, you want brisket. Boom done, simple, easy, 451 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Basic Defiance Beef from right here in Indiana, ship to 452 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: you wherever you are across the country. It will come 453 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: to you each steak, vacuum pact in the dry ice, 454 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: ready to go. It will be there boom quick after 455 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: their twenty one day aging process, which means you get 456 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: an unbelievably tender cut of meat. 457 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: Really really special. 458 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: Defiance beef d e F I a nce defiancebeef dot 459 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: comunse proble code, Eat Drink Smoke, get your discount one 460 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars off your order right now. 461 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: And see how everything ties in. There's a good possibility 462 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: that that cow's name was Betty. Wow. 463 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: Wow, look at you, defiance beeef dot com promo good Eat, 464 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: Drink Smoke. I saw a recipef fingers with the way 465 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: for brisket. I ask you, We'll get to news of 466 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: the week in a moment. 467 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: Do we have to? 468 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: They did a quasi hot honey brisket. They took honey, 469 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: and they took red pepper flakes, and they kind of 470 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: warmed it up, break it down a little bit, took 471 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: the brisket, poured this hot honey and red pepper flake 472 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: thing all over it, and then let it rest for 473 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: seven days in the hot honey. 474 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: Yeah your nay, No really, And I don't know. I 475 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: would have to think about this more, but my first 476 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: initial reaction is no. Although you and I have talked 477 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: about it, we both like to dabble with brown sugar 478 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: in our brisket rub my family. I can. I'm fine 479 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: salt and pepper. 480 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: I really don't need it. My family is insane. When 481 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: we add the brown sugar, They're like, this is this 482 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: is perfect? 483 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, honey. And then on top of it, hot honey 484 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: seven days, seven days. That bristle's gonna taste like hot honey, 485 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: I would assume. So we're gonna have to find out. Okay, 486 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: good on you. I like the adventurous. 487 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: Because we ate the cake. We didn't get to do 488 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: News of the Week yet. To tea drink smoke, I'm 489 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, 490 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: Fingers Moloy. We are smoking from Liga, the Jewist State, 491 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: the Undercrown Maduro. I always call it chew Estate, but 492 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: they all say the Liga Undercrown Maduro. 493 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: What can I say? I'm old school. 494 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: This is the Toro, so the six by fifty two. 495 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: This is a full bodied cigar, Fingers mLOY, you are 496 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: in now into the first third of the cigar, deep 497 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: into it. 498 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: What say you? It tastes like gooey butter cake. Well, 499 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: I think this cuts through the gooey butter cake. We 500 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: were just trotting some cake. I think this cuts through it. 501 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: There's you are still getting that, you said Leather I 502 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: don't think that's necessarily an awful thing thing to say there. 503 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: I was getting some wood from it, a little bit 504 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: of bitter as a bit of chocolate at the first 505 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: not necessarily overwhelming, just I was getting the more of 506 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: the boldness than anything else. But it's smoking well, it's 507 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 2: easy to handle, it feels great in the hands. 508 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: Just a nice piece, and for me that pepper and 509 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: spice is picked up just a little bit. As I'm 510 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: moving through the first third of the cigar. 511 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: Fingers were waring the Liga Underground Maduro grand Toro. They 512 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 2: call this six by fifty two? Is it in your 513 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: humid or for nine dollars and fifty. 514 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Cents stick stop it right? Yes, this is one of those. 515 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: Now I would not be every day on this cigar, 516 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: but there's no doubt that I buy a box and 517 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: I split it with a friend and it's just in 518 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: the humid it's just there. Right, Buy a box and 519 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: boxes twenty five, find four friends, everybody gets five. 520 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: Easy way to do this boom, simple done. 521 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: You've got it maybe once a week, maybe once every 522 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: other week when you just want something a little bit bigger. Absolutely, 523 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: unquestionably this is something that can be in the human earth. 524 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not starting my morning off with this cigar. 525 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: But and it's not an everyday smoke, no, but not 526 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: for me at all, But that at that price point, 527 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: the way it's hitting me, I would I would have 528 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: one or two of these in my in my humid 529 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: door for all, like a once a month smoke something 530 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: like that. 531 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, after dinner, after dinner, late night, you're gonna be 532 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: up for a while smoke. 533 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, this can do it. 534 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: And no matter what you ate, like, we're doing this, 535 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: this cake hack, this uguy buttercake hack, and the recipe 536 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: will be up at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com. This absolutely 537 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: cuts through it. I am not bothered by what I hate. 538 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: There are cigars that could be lighter and really affected 539 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 2: by the food. I think this one moves right through it. 540 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: I think you light this up at night and if 541 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have an evening cup of coffee, you're gonna 542 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: be up till two in the morning. 543 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: And you know what, you'll be happy about it. Yes, 544 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: but it's time fingers Horatio Maloy. 545 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: For News of the Week. Oh, Tony, I just I 546 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: hesitate to mention this because I know you're such a 547 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: huge fan of the TSA and anytime I bring up 548 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: anything a. 549 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 2: Flashback, flashback to all the times I talked about how 550 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: much I hate the TSA. 551 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Well, did you mention you you flew recently? Did you 552 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: have a bad experience with the TV? I did not. 553 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh not this time. 554 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: I did not because we've now changed the rules where 555 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: you don't have to take off the shoes, so I didn't. 556 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: I didn't have to take off the shoes. Okay, but 557 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: don't Did you get the extra service? And what is 558 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: it the TSA PRE No, I don't do that. I 559 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: do not pay for my rights. Well, so what I 560 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: don't understand? And we're getting a little bit away from 561 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: News of the Week. But that's okay. If I'm buying 562 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: the TSA pre because I don't want to take my 563 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: shoes off and then they make that announcement, Am I 564 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: getting some of my money back? 565 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be pretty upset. I doubt it. What it 566 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: turns out you don't get your money back, I disagree. 567 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: I would assume that the TSA, since they're so wonderful 568 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: with customer service, would understand your gripe and it would 569 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: immediately give you half your money back. We dreamon. Having 570 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: said that, according to an August fifteenth report from the 571 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: Street Tony, the TSA and the Federal Aviation Administration updated 572 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: their prohibited items list to include popular hairstyling tools. Passengers 573 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: will be better off leaving their cordless hair devices at 574 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: home because they may contain potentially hazardous materials. So that cordless, 575 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: that cordless curling iron, the flat irons, apparently some of 576 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: them contain gas cartridges. You tane filled curling irons and 577 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: flat irons and gas refilled cartridges. For these tools, they're 578 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: no longer allowed in your check bags. First of all, Uh, listen, 579 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: I just towel dry them. My here, Tony, and I 580 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: haven't used a flat iron in years. I'm surprised. I'm 581 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: surprised that they use gas cartridges. 582 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that, all right, So the but so, 583 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: the issue is not on a plane. The issue as 584 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: is as checked baggage. Yes, you could still bring it 585 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 2: and carry on. 586 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: They can still be packed on carry on backs. However, 587 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: a safety cover must be securely fitted over the heating element. 588 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: The device must be protected from accidental activation. Shouldn't we 589 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: all be protected from accidental activation? 590 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: Tony you're telling me it's turned the Beavis and butt 591 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: Heead accidents. Activation was an art film I made in common. 592 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: It is. 593 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: But I being a young and Margaret, here's George Hamilton 594 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: and Margaret. 595 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Turns out we're doing this show in nineteen sixty four. 596 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: But you brought this point up before about the TSA, 597 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: and it still rings true today. It's hard to keep 598 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: track of what you're allowed to do when it comes 599 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: to whether it's packing your bags, how you bored a plane. 600 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: It feels like the rules are different by the day 601 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: and by the airport. Undoubtedly true. 602 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: In this airport you take the you take your laptop 603 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: out of the bag. That airport, you don't take your 604 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: laptop out of the bag. It's using that as just 605 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 2: one of many many examples. So I don't I will 606 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: again tell you the TSA has to go and we 607 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: have to get back to private security. 608 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: Airport to airport. 609 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: That's that's number one standardization amongst them in terms of 610 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 2: best practices. Would also be would be very nice if 611 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: you tell me there's gonna be an that something is 612 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: combustible and you want to be able to have access 613 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: to it, and so you don't put it in check baggage. 614 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: I can live with that. I don't think that's an 615 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: end of the world kind of thing. 616 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: That's kind of rational. You could live with that and 617 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: live longer. According to a new study, if you eat 618 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: more meat, Tony Fox News has the story eating more 619 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: meat could be beneficial for the body and new studies suggests. 620 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: Research from Canada's McMaster University, Ah great basketball team. Yes 621 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: that's where I do all my studies revealed that animal 622 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: sourced foods are not linked to a higher risk of death. 623 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. As a matter of fact, what does it 624 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: do regarding cancer? The study discovered that animal proteins could 625 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: also offer protective benefits against cancer related mortality. According to 626 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: Canada's McMaster University. 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Nope, in the end, 636 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: something's gonna get you, and in the end, you have 637 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: to decide what works for you. They're definitely people who 638 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: don't do well with red meat. There are people who 639 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: do extremely well with red meat. There's some people who 640 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: don't do well with carbs. 641 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. Some people totally no problem. Thrive 642 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: on them. 643 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: You got it. It is up to you. But the 644 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: idea that sciences settled. Everybody knows. Nobody knows that damn 645 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 2: thing definesbeef dot com use promo code eat ring smoke 646 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: to get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order today. 647 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: Save a life, won't you do? 648 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: Do doo? 649 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: Duh? 650 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: Let's do it before you know? Oh there it is. No, 651 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: this is this is interesting news and it I believe 652 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna see more studies like this, and some 653 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: of it who you know, it may be politically based. Uh, 654 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, the people who are against meat may come 655 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: out with a new shirt because the carnivore diet is 656 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: so popular, right that people are getting more interested in 657 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: in eating this type of diet, so we'll probably see 658 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: more studies like this. 659 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 2: So it's at this moment I tell you, I think 660 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: we're either going to be outrageously surprised or outrageously disappointed. 661 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: And I don't think I've ever said that about a 662 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: burbon before. It's also how I describe my weekends interesting tea, drink, smoke. 663 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. 664 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: That is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy, and this 665 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 2: is the wise Man bourbon. Now it's a really kind 666 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: of convoluted story. 667 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: This is a kind of a mashup, right. 668 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: It's distilled by Bardstown, but it comes from Kentucky Owl. 669 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 2: It's weird that we do something that comes from Kentucky 670 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: owl because they're having a whole host of troubles over there. 671 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: We will get to that. So this is Kentucky owl 672 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: in Bardstown bourbon. It's a blend of the Kentucky owl 673 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: four year weeded and high Rye bourbons. So that's two 674 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 2: and then it's combined with two bourbons from Bardstown five 675 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: and a half year and eight and a half year. 676 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: I should actually say they're Kentucky source bourbons. So there 677 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: is this panoply of bourbons going on in this thing 678 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 2: that they call the wise Man. And I'm like, I'm 679 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: gonna love it or hate it. We are at that stage. 680 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: This comes in at ninety point eight proof fingers with 681 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: bof got this in the glen cairing glass here. 682 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: And first things first, that is honey. 683 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: That that is not dark, that is have the reds, 684 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: doesn't have the ambers, doesn't have the richness. Doesn't look 685 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: like caramel at all, just looks honeycolored. 686 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah it does. And uh, it is sticking to the glass. 687 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: There's a nice little bit of a viscosity. 688 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: With would be viscosity like Valvelene, which would make a 689 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: great sponsor of faturing smoke. Come on, Valveleine, let's go 690 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: racing together. Wow, impressive racing to profits? 691 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: That is that how you sell it? Yes? What can 692 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: I do to put you in some forget it? 693 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 2: That's a bigger nose than I thought it would be. Yes, 694 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: right off the bat, ninety point eight proof is not big, 695 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: not strong, But there's a lot happening on that nose. 696 00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: Nice bit of caramel um, maybe a hint a hint 697 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: of alcohol. 698 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I would say a little more than 699 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 2: a hint it is there. Touch a cinnamon, touch, touch 700 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: of cinnamon, and I'm gonna argue after you get in 701 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: it for a little while. 702 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: A little dark fruit fruity, A dark fruit fruity, dark 703 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: fruit fruity. 704 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 2: I saw them open up aner it is in nineteen 705 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: ninety two. A. Yes, it's it's there's a little there. 706 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: There's I think a little bit of dark fruit going 707 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: on there in that. Okay, I want to argue it, 708 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 2: but not getting a lot of oak. Is that is 709 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 2: that cinnamon or is that just spice? 710 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: Right? 711 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: Considering that that we know that there's this blend here, 712 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,240 Speaker 2: there's high Rye bourbons. 713 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: And here's here's what I would say that could be it. 714 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say if I picked this up 715 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: without having any knowledge of the mash bill, I would 716 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: tend to agree with with you. But the fact that you, uh, 717 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: you've got the Rye in there, it makes me think 718 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: that that's more Rye spice, right. 719 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: I think it's a little more not not the mash bill, 720 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: but the different. Yeah, if you're gonna throw high Rye 721 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: bourbons in here, and you got to figure if they've 722 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: got a couple of four years, a five and a 723 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 2: half year and an eight and a half year. One 724 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: would lend themselves to think there's more of the four 725 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: year than the higher year bourbons to be able to 726 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: make it last longer, meaning you can get more bottles 727 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: out of it. That's how I would assume this mix goes. 728 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 2: But enough of us smelling this stuff. You ready for this? 729 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: Fingers Moly? First of all, do you think when they 730 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: put this together someone was wearing a lap coat? I 731 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe, And I've been ready for this all day. 732 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 2: We are doing what's called the Kentucky chew, moving the 733 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 2: juice around the palate, getting a feel for the flavors. 734 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 2: The first sip. I'm a big favorite fan of the 735 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: two sip concept. First sip to set the taste buds. 736 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: Second sip tweeling, get an idea of the flavors that 737 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 2: could Tucky. 738 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 1: Owl wise Man bourbon. 739 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: The wise Man bourbon is what it says right there 740 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 2: on the label, fingers will really. 741 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: Really uh you? 742 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: You look like you just got winded. That looked like 743 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 2: you ran an entire quarter city block. It is the finish. 744 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: There is a it's a cinnamon like heat, that cinnamon heat, 745 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: but it's not cinnamon it's the rye spice. It's it's 746 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: a it's a nice bit of rye spice. 747 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 748 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: That caramel is there. You're actually getting some oak. H. 749 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: There is a nice bit of staying on the tongue 750 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: in the mouth, nice bit of a gentle warmth in 751 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: the chest, maybe a hint of h. No, I'm not 752 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: going to say that it's good. It is good. I 753 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: think I'll be interested to see what you say that 754 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: that rye spice really hits you, right, so you know 755 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: you're a ry guy. Sam, I'm going in. 756 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: This is the wise man Bourbon Kentucky owl with Bardstown. 757 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: Here I go. He's going in ladies and gentlemen with 758 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: his Glen Karen Glenn ross glass and he's doing what 759 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: we like to call the saganaw swish, the Memphis munch, 760 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: the Chattanooga chomp, a confused look over his face. 761 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: That is so much richer. I'm telling I was fifty 762 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 2: to fifty. That's crazed. First of all, that's a whole 763 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: bunch of fruit. Really, that's a whole bunch of fruit. 764 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: The guys over breaking Bourbon dot Com referred to it 765 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 2: as muted raspberry, and I almost want to say Bravo 766 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: like that. That's a really kind of but I think 767 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 2: you can go more orchard dark dark fruits. In general, 768 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: it's much sweeter than I thought it would be. Uh, 769 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 2: if there is a hard spice, it's not hitting no 770 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: heat centered chest or anywhere on the chest at all. 771 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: A little bit back of throat. It actually touches into 772 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: the cheek going back in ladies and gentlemen for sip 773 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: number two. And I can't believe. 774 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 2: It's also very warm. It's a warm drink and goes 775 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 2: down much smoother than I would have expected. Rice spice 776 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: isn't hitting. 777 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: You see to the extent that it exists. No, that's crazy. No, 778 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: there's a little bit on the sides of the tongue 779 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: that I can feel. 780 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm more taken by the by the okay, okay, the finish. 781 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: Has some spice. Hey, how you doing? How's your mother? 782 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: And that's resting in the throat and the and the 783 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: mid front of the tongue. Yeah, the sides of the tongue, 784 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: that's where the rie spice. 785 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: Is, I'm telling you now. And there is there is 786 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: a touch of voke going on. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm 787 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: afraid to monkey with it. We're gonna have to, I 788 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: mean science. We do it for eat, rink smoke nation. 789 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 1: I'll add a cube, he'll add some water. Did you 790 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: bring your droppers today? Of course not. Why did I 791 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 1: even ask? Wow? 792 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: This is this is interesting. Why would you make that 793 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 2: assumption because you didn't bring your droppers? Well I didn't, 794 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: But why would you make that assumptives? Because I do 795 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: this show for a living, Fingers bioy, this is the 796 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: Wise Man, a blend of four years, five and a 797 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 2: half year, and eight and a half year bourbons. 798 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,959 Speaker 1: They're packed in a box. 799 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: This came about in twenty twenty one, Fingers Biloy. Is 800 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 2: this in your liquor cabinet? For forty dollars a bottle? Yes? 801 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. 802 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: Now what's interesting is I went back and looked when 803 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 2: people did some initial reviews. Things came out it was 804 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: sixty dollars a bottle. Wow, I saw it for fifty 805 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 2: on sale for forty, which means maybe it ain't so 806 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: much around no more that could be. That's gonna bring 807 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: us to another story. I make no claim of being 808 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: a football expert. I make no claim of being an 809 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: NFL expert. I make no claim at all that I 810 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 2: know every detailed reason for a trade or anything else. 811 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:43,959 Speaker 1: But when I. 812 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 2: See crazy, Oh I'm pretty good at point. Now crazy, 813 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 2: it's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That right there 814 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: is America's favorite amateur drinker and world class Detroit Lions fan. 815 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: Fingers of my lord, we're down the field, A charging 816 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: team will not Yeah, I had two chances to win 817 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,399 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Ain't gonna happen. Now. 818 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry to be so so direct with you, but 819 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: there is a trade in the NFL that fingers. As 820 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 2: we're doing the show got announced and fingers jaw was 821 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 2: on the floor. And it doesn't affect his high flying 822 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. No, it affects the Green Bay Packers. Take 823 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 2: us through it, if you would, Fingers. 824 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: Horatio Maloy So Micah Parsons, the All Pro linebacker really 825 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: a defensive end in a lot of ways for the 826 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, has been in a contract dispute with Jerry 827 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: Jones for some time now. 828 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 2: He wanted to have his contract he renegotiated. He was 829 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: scheduled to make I believe twenty one million dollars this 830 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 2: year in his final year of his deal, which with 831 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 2: his skill set, he would have been considered very much underpaid, 832 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: and they were in the middle of a standoff and 833 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: and Micah Parsons was doing what they call a hold in. 834 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,479 Speaker 2: Instead of holding out, you actually show up to camp 835 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 2: so they can't find you. But then you say, oh, 836 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 2: my back, I can't practice, and oh, you know what, 837 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 2: my shin is bothering me. 838 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 1: I think I have water on the knee. I got 839 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: to go out, yes, And you just sit there and 840 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: you you don't practice, and you become a distraction to 841 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: the team. And then there was a lot of back 842 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: and forth, uh in the media between Jerry Jones and 843 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. For the most part, Is has stayed silent 844 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: until he announced, now it must be two weeks ago, 845 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: that he wanted out of Dallas. He wanted to be traded, 846 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones was adamant that he wasn't going to 847 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: trade him and that they were going to come up 848 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: with some sort of deal. Uh. You know, at one 849 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,399 Speaker 1: point it was oh, you know what, we we aren't 850 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: going to come up with the deal. He's under contract, 851 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: He's just gonna play for us. And Micah Parsons was 852 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: uh saying, well, no, no, yeah, exactly. So it was just 853 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: announced that the Dallas Cowboys have traded Micah Parsons to 854 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: the evil Green Bay Packers. My god. 855 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 2: First of all, we are heard on whby in Appleton 856 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 2: and Green Bay Sundays from three to five pm. We 857 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: love you guys, and we're more than happy to come up, 858 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: and Fingers mLOY will wear a Detroit Lions jersey and 859 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,879 Speaker 2: you can throw fresh fruit at him. You invite us, 860 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: we will come up. We will grill brats with you. 861 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 2: We'll do the whole thing, and eventually you'll see Fingers 862 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 2: mLOY wearing a. 863 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: Cheese head because they would be throwing cheese at me. 864 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: Having said that they traded. 865 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 2: Go through it. Because first things first. The first part 866 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 2: about this is whatever your favorite team is the marquee player, 867 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 2: the marquee player, because the Cowboys don't. Dak Prescott is 868 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 2: not a marquee player. He is a middling quarterback at best. Sorry, 869 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 2: he was Dallas's best player, MICHAEH. Parsons period, end of discussion, 870 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: and on any defense, he would be the player. Yeah, 871 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question about this, and they 872 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 2: just traded him away, and not only the key player, 873 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: but you could argue heart and soul glue identity of 874 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: that defense, which now doesn't exist. So that part for 875 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 2: the for the Cowboys is nuts. 876 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: Now reports are that in return for Micah Parsons, the 877 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers gave up. 878 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, before we get to what they gave up. 879 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: Yes, can we discuss how much money they're going to 880 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: pay MICHAEH. Parsons. I've got the number right here. Oh 881 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: please please share it. 882 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: They're gonna pay Micah Parsons a four year deal for 883 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty eight million dollars. It's got a 884 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: total amount of one hundred and thirty six million guaranteed. 885 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: He is now the highest paid non quarterback in the 886 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 2: National Football League. First, before you get to what they 887 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 2: gave up. That's an insane amount of money. 888 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: Right, that's also what the market dictates. One hundred and 889 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: eighty eight million dollars or four years. Yes, but also 890 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: keep in mind that the initial announcement of these contracts 891 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: they are usually inflated quite a bit, and once you 892 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: know the media is able to dig into the numbers, 893 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: they usually come down a little bit. But that is 894 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: what it costs to have a premium pass rusher on 895 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: your defense. So first, things. First, you can argue they 896 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 1: paid too much. 897 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 2: You can say, okay, as Fingers does, that's what the 898 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 2: market bears. 899 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,479 Speaker 1: What did the Green Bay Packers give up? They gave 900 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: up Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kenny Clark and two two 901 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: first round draft picks from what years? The future? Just 902 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: in general and future. Yeah, I'm assuming it's going to 903 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: be the twenty twenty six seven. That's exacturate. Okay. How 904 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: desperate are the Green Bay Packers? When why they have 905 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: had problems on defense? At times? It hasn't been consistent. 906 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: And also, listen, it's a really tough division. Take my 907 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: Lions fandom out of it. The Lions are probably going 908 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: to take a step back this year because they lost 909 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: all Pro center Frank grag Now and they're replacing It's 910 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: not just their defensive and offensive coordinators. When Ben Johnson, 911 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: who is the Lions offensive coordinator, left to become coach 912 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,760 Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears, and Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordinator, 913 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: left Detroit to become the Jets head coach, they took 914 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches with them off of the Lion's staff. 915 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of brain drain and I won't be 916 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,399 Speaker 1: surprised at all if the Lions take a step back 917 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: this year. But the Lions are still going to be 918 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,880 Speaker 1: really good. The Bears have a really talented roster and 919 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of if Ben Johnson in his 920 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 1: first year can bring out the talent in Caleb Williams 921 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: that everybody's expecting him to do. They're they're probably going 922 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: to be tougher this year. And my goodness, the Minnesota 923 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: Vikings were very good last year with Sam Donald. They 924 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: let Sam Donald walk and now they got JJ McCarthy 925 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 1: who's essentially having his rookie year played out, even though 926 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, he's a second year quarterback, but he 927 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: was injured all of last year. It's a tough division, 928 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: so they they've they've seen what's happened the last two 929 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: years the Lions have won the division, and they're they're 930 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: tired of it and they feel like they had to 931 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: make a move. That's a crazed gamble. 932 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 2: Two first round picks a guy who you know delivered 933 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 2: and that money. That is an insane gamble. 934 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: Think of it this way, though, if you're a Green 935 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: Bay and I don't have their information as far as 936 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: their draft capital, but say they only have their normal 937 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: first round pick next year. They're expecting to be really good. 938 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: So if you're picking twenty ninth, thirtieth, thirty first, and 939 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, hey, if they win the super Bowl thirty 940 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: second in the first round, that's almost a second round pick. 941 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 1: So to bring on someone with an elite with elite 942 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: talent like Micah Parsons for a very very very late 943 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: first round pick in two years, it's. 944 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 2: Certainly an interesting way to look at it. It's a 945 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 2: little more sober minded than just my initial shock. The 946 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 2: money just blows my mind. Four years, one hundred and 947 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 2: eighty eight million. 948 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:54,919 Speaker 1: It's what people make it. Radio it it It is God. 949 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 2: If I only had any athletic talent, if only I 950 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 2: could say athletic, I have two problems. 951 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: Now, good gosh, what a deal. Eat drink smoke. It 952 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: is your cigar bourbon foodie extravaganza. I'm Tony Kats. That's 953 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: Fingers malloy. Find everything we. 954 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 2: Do with Eat, drinks smoke show dot com if you 955 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 2: would right there, we are smoking from Liga Liga. 956 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 1: You know, you know Liga Pravada. You love it. This 957 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: is the underground. 958 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,919 Speaker 2: When Duro the Toro six by fifty two I believe 959 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 2: they call this a gran Toro Mexican San Andreas, Brazilian 960 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 2: Mattafina in in the binderhn Duran and Nica. 961 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,280 Speaker 1: Roguin in in the filler. Right there. 962 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 2: This is a full bodied cigar getting ready for the 963 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: final third of this cigar. Not much has changed. I'm 964 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,439 Speaker 2: not getting an explosion of flavor, of different flavors out 965 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 2: of this cigar. I'm a little bit tobacco forward with this. 966 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 2: I knew what I was getting. I knew it was 967 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,600 Speaker 2: gonna have this level of strength. I knew it was 968 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 2: gonna have this level of conviction. I think that that 969 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 2: chocolate has picked up a little bit, not necessarily a coffee. 970 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 2: I think that you talked about that initial spice that 971 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 2: is still there. It's just a big boy. It's just 972 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: powerful and you feel it. So if you're not somebody 973 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 2: who's into that, this is not for you. If you 974 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 2: like that, hey, allow us to introduce this to you 975 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 2: and coming in at nine dollars and fifty cents a stick. 976 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 2: And the construction is spectacular, which is exactly what I 977 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 2: expected here. This is it's a box is twenty five. 978 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 2: Find a few friends split the box five ways. Everybody 979 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 2: gets five cigars smoke one a week, one every other week. 980 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 2: It fits into a rotation, especially at nine dollars and 981 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 2: fifty cents. If you're somebody who does this cigar on 982 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 2: a daily you're you're special. That's that is the best 983 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 2: way I could describe it. 984 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: I can't imagine lighting this up at ten o'clock at 985 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 1: night and what it would do to me. I would 986 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: be up until like six o'clock in the morning. Yeah, oh, 987 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely. 988 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 2: I mean we're always clear about cigars, right, You're not 989 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 2: inhaling a cigar that doesn't happen. But there's still it's 990 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 2: still tobacco, there's still nicotine. There's still an effect that 991 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 2: it has. 992 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. This is a big pup. 993 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 2: But I'm telling you beautifully done, and we are drinking 994 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 2: the wise Man bourbon coming in at ninety point eight. 995 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: Proof. My cube has melted. 996 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 2: Fingers, Oh, my cube has melted. I'm trying it here. 997 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 2: For me, it was it was rather fruity. It had 998 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 2: it had a bit of spice, which I am attributing 999 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 2: to the Rye spice. A conversation is what is a 1000 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 2: cube gonna do? 1001 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: Right? 1002 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 2: So water brings down proof, that's exactly what it does. 1003 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 2: But it also some flavors more muted, some flavors more prominent. 1004 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 2: Kind of water or ice can open up the bourbon. 1005 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 2: It's not wrong to have something on a cube or 1006 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 2: on ice chips or the rocks, or just add a 1007 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 2: little bit of water. 1008 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: It's fine. People are like, well, you can't do that. 1009 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: They're wrong and they're silly, and you shouldn't talk to 1010 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 2: those people or you should ignore them one way or another. 1011 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: So I put I put a cube in here, and 1012 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: now I'm going in. He's going in, ladies and gentlemen 1013 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: for round three. Actually with the melted cube, and oh got. 1014 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 2: Dryer, got spice, Oh got spicier, no neat haaa oh 1015 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 2: oh dry and spicy and almost like all that that 1016 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: that fruit and as Breaking Bourbon dot Com, which is 1017 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 2: a very cool sit Breaking Bourbon dot Com, they called 1018 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 2: it a muted raspberry. I'm like, that is that is 1019 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 2: like really well done as they described it, and all 1020 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 2: that just disappears. 1021 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: It muted the raspberry. Hah. It left me with spice 1022 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: and blaw. You look like you're in pain. 1023 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 2: Oh oh you know you said I don't want to 1024 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 2: monkey with this. Those are exact words. You are a soothsayer. 1025 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 2: A soothsayer fingers, Well, well you got it. 1026 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: Sounds like it brought out a lot of that spice 1027 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: that I was getting. Neat. Oh, I feel it in 1028 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: the throat. 1029 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 2: I feel it in the nose, I feel it in 1030 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 2: the chest, I feel it in my toes. Go haha, 1031 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 2: you just did. You added a little bit of water 1032 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: to yours right there. Well you're not happy either. 1033 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that can't be. That can't be chicken cutlet bingo. 1034 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: I knew it. I so that spice is still there. 1035 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the spice to subside. When it first 1036 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: it hit my palette, I got apple briefly, and well 1037 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: I said dark fruits, which I didn't get before. So 1038 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: you know what, now I'm gonna have to go in 1039 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 1: and try to do it again. 1040 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: Do it? 1041 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,919 Speaker 1: Do one more soep, do four more SIPs? Whatever makes 1042 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 1: you happy? Right there? Check it out, apple, Yeah, it 1043 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: really brought out a little bit of apple. That spice 1044 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 1: is still there. There's oak. I'll tell you no, I 1045 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: liked it better neat, but that I did too. That boy, 1046 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: that is just a strange. That's strange how that happened. 1047 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 1: And so this was and. 1048 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 2: Some people had this listed at sixty dollars a bottle. 1049 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 2: This was listed at forty nine ninety nine when I 1050 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 2: bought it was on sale for thirty nine ninety nine 1051 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: and at thirty nine ninety nine. 1052 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: Neat absolutely as a nice addition. 1053 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 2: Those flavors sweeter than I normally do, but there was 1054 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 2: still an oak presence. So I'm like, you know what 1055 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: I can I can work with this, I can play 1056 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 2: with this. It was a bit beguiling. 1057 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: I said. 1058 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 2: I was fifty to fifty on what I thought, this 1059 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 2: is going to be this kind of weird collab between 1060 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Kentucky Owl and Bardstown, but not on the cube man, 1061 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 2: who he ha ha and still still sticking with me, 1062 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: not in a way I like, but Neat, that was 1063 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: fun Yeah, so now I'm still a Yes. 1064 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: What's funny is if you would have said it's sixty 1065 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: dollars a bottle, I would have said, I wish you 1066 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: would have said forty dollars a bottle, right, yeah, forty dollars. 1067 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: That's a sweet spot for me with this bottle. I 1068 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: would I don't think I'd want to pay any more 1069 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: than that. And unique about this. 1070 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 2: The plan was not to do this combination, right, I 1071 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 2: don't plan that far ahead. 1072 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 1: Is that it does work. 1073 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 2: When it was neat that sweetness, with the strength of 1074 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 2: that cigar, those things were not They weren't contradictory. They 1075 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 2: were just different, different enough there was enough contrast to 1076 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 2: enjoy that that back and forth. But the cube man, 1077 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 2: the cube screws it all up for me, it did. 1078 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 2: I leave it to you to decide, but it's time 1079 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,560 Speaker 2: Fingers maloy for News of. 1080 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: The Week, Tony, let's stick with the football theme. TMZ 1081 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: is reporting that it looks like love and Taylor Swift 1082 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: is great for merch sales. It's TMZ is reporting that 1083 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Jerseys flew off the shelves Travis Kelsey Jersey specifically on 1084 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: Tuesday after he proposed to Taylor Swift two questions. 1085 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 2: First of all, let them be happy together, and that's 1086 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 2: the last I'm gonna say that. 1087 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: They don't know me, I don't know them, It's fine. 1088 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: The question is, first, at what moment do the Kansas 1089 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 2: City Chiefs offer up a Taylor Swift jersey with some 1090 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 2: number that corresponds to her albums or something. 1091 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Like that, or one of her songs. 1092 01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 2: And at what moment does Travis Kell's see where a 1093 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Kelsey Dash Swift jersey on the field, because. 1094 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: You know he's gonna do it, and it's going to 1095 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: be taking her name. You know that, we all know it. 1096 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know why we're arguing against it. You know 1097 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: that I'm right the Midia I heard it. You knew 1098 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: I was right. At what moment does that happen? Well, 1099 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 1: I believe players get a percentage of their jersey sales. 1100 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 1: I may be wrong on that, but I think that 1101 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: that is kind of baked in to money that they make. 1102 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Can can you imagine if he did something like that, 1103 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: the amount of the Swifties running out and buying Kansas 1104 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 1: City Chiefs jerseys. 1105 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 2: The Chiefs are going to have a Taylor Swift jersey 1106 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 2: guaranteed or your money back. It's going to come out 1107 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 2: in October when they do their whole thing with breast 1108 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 2: cancer and breast cancer awareness. 1109 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: And everything else. Say because of pumpkin spice. 1110 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 2: It's it no that that would be different. It's it's 1111 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 2: going to happen. There's going to be a Kansas City 1112 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 2: Chiefs Taylor Swift jersey. 1113 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:09,800 Speaker 1: This is happening. So all of you out there who 1114 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: are football fans that were clamoring for more. Taylor Swift 1115 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: during an NFL broadcast, her wishs through. I got so. 1116 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Excited, honestly, just go be happy and then stop stop. 1117 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: People telling me about it. I I I'm not. 1118 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 2: People were like screaming, Oh my gosh, she's doing it good. 1119 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Have you seen the engagement photos. No, I'm just happy 1120 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 1: to know that their true love is still real out there. 1121 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: It is. Let's see if they get married. Nice back. Thanks, 1122 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: You're welcome it. See Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That 1123 01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: is Fingers malloy. 1124 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 2: Find everything we do at Eat Drinksmokeshow dot com and 1125 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 2: the podcast wherever did you get your podcasts? Be sure 1126 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 2: to get that Eat Drink Smoke and on Instagram Eat 1127 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 2: Drink Smoke podcast, Facebook Eat Drink Smoke and on Twitter 1128 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 2: x go Eat Drink Smoke, Eat Drinksmokeshow dot com. We 1129 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 2: forgot it didn't get done. I thought I thought it 1130 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 2: was already done. My mistake, we said a couple of 1131 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 2: weeks ago, as we were smoking the Tampa Smokers from 1132 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 2: J C. Newman, we would post the picture because one 1133 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 2: of the cigars in that box is designed like a 1134 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 2: baseball bat. It's very cool that we would post it 1135 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 2: to our Instagram feed, Eat Drink Smoke Podcast and we 1136 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 2: would take all the is it all the people who 1137 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 2: responded Nice Bat, and we would pick one of them 1138 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 2: and we would send them a Tampa Smoker forgot to post 1139 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 2: a freaking photo. 1140 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: They're just sometimes not enough hours in the day, Tony. 1141 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 2: I don't know how this happens. So this is gonna happen. 1142 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,040 Speaker 2: Be looking for it. Follow us on Instagram at Eat 1143 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 2: Drink Smoke Podcast, and when we post the picture of 1144 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 2: the Tampa Smoker, just put in the CA I'm Nice Bat, 1145 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 2: and you have a chance to win at Tampa Smoker 1146 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 2: Star and be the fifth caller. That's not how this works. 1147 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Oh that's that's. 1148 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: That's say the phrase that pays, which is waka waka 1149 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: argo bargele. 1150 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 2: I believe, I believe that that is it fingers MELI. Yes, 1151 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 2: Let's let's say you don't have a college degree. You 1152 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 2: don't have a college degree, Can you still make a 1153 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 2: living in today's America? 1154 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely? You know how how by being an influencer. 1155 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 2: I hate you, I hate you, I hate you over 1156 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 2: there at CBS News. Full disclosure. I do not have 1157 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 2: a college degree. I never graduated college. 1158 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 1: No, no, I. 1159 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 2: Left college to help my family that was in a 1160 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 2: financial bind. 1161 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: And that was that. Oh until that one done. I 1162 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: have a college degree. Oh is that right? Oh? Look 1163 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: at you, la di da, Look what it got me, 1164 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: a sophisticate. 1165 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 2: You can be earning money without a college degree. The 1166 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 2: people from lending Tree, according to CBS News, took a 1167 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 2: look at data and what is it that jobs are? 1168 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 2: What are the jobs that are paying well? You don't 1169 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 2: need a college degree. And the first thing on the 1170 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:30,040 Speaker 2: list CEOs and legislators. What sure, okay, but that's like, like, 1171 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 2: how do you get that gig? 1172 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 1: They've got aircraft pilots and flight engineers to me, sales engineer. 1173 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 1: What's a sales engineer is a great question. It's someone 1174 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,959 Speaker 1: that you see when you're you're you're coming up with 1175 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 1: a sale, you need someone back there tinkering and they're 1176 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: they're putting together the sale in a way that you 1177 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 1: could say, you know what you're really good at that, 1178 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 1: we're going to give you the title of sales engineer. 1179 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 2: Also on the list air traffic controllers and airfield operations specialists. 1180 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 2: Now allow me, okay because it sounds way frightening when 1181 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 2: you say that, considering the kind of output universities have 1182 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 2: had over the past two decades, you're very very right 1183 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 2: not to go to college in many, many ways and 1184 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 2: many instances. Without question, you're right. You do not need college. 1185 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 2: What you need are skills, What you need is capability. Certainly, 1186 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 2: there's the trades, so we're not so the idea for 1187 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 2: your university versus trade school or specific training in a 1188 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 2: subject being different things. This is about a four year degree. 1189 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled to see more and more people discussing how 1190 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 2: unnecessary it is for some, and I would actually argue 1191 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 2: for most, but I'm not going to go so far 1192 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 2: as to say for all. Some people, absolutely we will 1193 01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 2: benefit from four years, not only in terms of the 1194 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 2: the career that they're heading towards, but for their own development, 1195 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 2: for their own growth, for for skill sets of social 1196 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 2: ability and and and and compatibility and and how to 1197 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,560 Speaker 2: deal with with situations. You know your kids. Some of 1198 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 2: them need that, and it'll it'll help them tremendously, but 1199 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 2: some don't, and some don't want it. And I'm thrilled 1200 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 2: to see a society and all the respect in the 1201 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 2: world to guys like Mike Rowe who have been rowing 1202 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 2: upstream not to make a pun there on this subject. 1203 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely right. There's so many other ways, so many more 1204 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 1: valuable ways to go about this. Uh. And but this 1205 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: list is interesting. 1206 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 2: Uh. Elevator installers and repairs, And you're like elevators, and 1207 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,599 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you're like, oh, that's actually 1208 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,600 Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Yeah, there's probably a lot of those specialized 1209 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 2: kind of fields. 1210 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,759 Speaker 1: Especially when you go to a big city and stay 1211 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: at a hotel. How many times do you you walk 1212 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: into the hotel and they've got four elevators and at 1213 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 1: least one of them is broken. It feels like it 1214 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 1: happens all the time, And I say to myself, they're 1215 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:22,000 Speaker 1: a great chain there. Some people people call them super 1216 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Yes, the Super eight. I shouldn't 1217 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: said Super eight because they don't normally have elevators. But 1218 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: having said that, no, you've never noticed that before. I'll 1219 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: tell you what. The couple of times I've stayed in 1220 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: hotels in Manhattan, it was like it was a challenge 1221 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: to find an elevator that worked, and you got to 1222 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: have someone to repair them. And I can see where 1223 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 1: you wouldn't need a college education for that, But also 1224 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:56,080 Speaker 1: I would argue too, there needs to be a re 1225 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: examination if you are going to get a college degree, 1226 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: if you could somehow, if the market can somehow influence 1227 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: these universities. The four year bachelor's degree system is ridiculous. 1228 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 1: Agree amount of classes that you have to take to 1229 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 1: get that bachelor's degree that have absolutely zero to do 1230 01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: with your major. When I went to get my associate's degree, 1231 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 1: I went to a community college and then went to 1232 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 1: a four year university. I took tennis one in tennis two. That, 1233 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 1: to you know, fulfill my physical education requirement. What other 1234 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 1: than the possibility of rupturing an Achilles tendon, what possibly 1235 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,920 Speaker 1: can you get out of tennis one and tennis two 1236 01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:48,599 Speaker 1: in college. 1237 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 2: I think that you are absolutely right, and I would 1238 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:52,679 Speaker 2: love to see you play tennis. 1239 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: I used to play tennis all the time. Is that right? Yeah? 1240 01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,120 Speaker 1: And then the fact came, oh god, and then that 1241 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 1: was the end of that. Yeah, No, I loved I 1242 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,639 Speaker 1: just had a conversation with my went to the eye 1243 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,680 Speaker 1: doctor the other day and he plays pickleball and he 1244 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you gotta play pickleball if you played tennis. 1245 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, you don't understand I would love 1246 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: to play pickleball. It combines two of my passions, tennis 1247 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:18,280 Speaker 1: and ping pong. I would love to do that. But 1248 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,480 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to step foot on the pickleball 1249 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: court and within twenty minutes rupturing and achilles. If there's 1250 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind, I was gonna say, die, Wow, 1251 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 1: you don't need it. You don't need it. You know, 1252 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: the four year university. It's it's true. 1253 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 2: If you are willing tell your kids, if you're just 1254 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 2: willing to sweat the world is. 1255 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,480 Speaker 1: There's so many options, opportunities. 1256 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 2: I will give you one that if you just have 1257 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:54,040 Speaker 2: a basic level of skills in plumbing and electric the 1258 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 2: basic stuff. If you can hang something straight, handyman, yeah, 1259 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:04,120 Speaker 2: hand man six figures, no question, set your own schedule, 1260 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 2: get good insurance, that's it. 1261 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: Handyman. 1262 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 2: If you can paint, if you like doing different things 1263 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 2: all the time, the odd job stuff you don't mind 1264 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,080 Speaker 2: working late, handyman six figures, no question. 1265 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you another one. I wish I would have 1266 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 1: embraced the idea when I was in my late teens 1267 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: and early twenties. And I'm not saying it's an easy 1268 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: line of work. Real estate. I wish I would. You 1269 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 1: don't any college are for that? No, you don't, But 1270 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 1: I see, And. 1271 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 2: We should have a whole conversation of residential versus commercial, 1272 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 2: because it's commercial. 1273 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: Where I think it's at. 1274 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's really about relationship building and if you're 1275 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 2: willing to wait out the long sales cycle, you if 1276 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 2: you can, if you can stick that through, you've got it. 1277 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 2: You've got a nice, nice future, because that's about people 1278 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 2: who know you know I can trust, and know I 1279 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 2: can trust you. 1280 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just know real estate because I like dealing 1281 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: with people so much. Oh yeah, that must be it. 1282 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 2: This is the wise Man Bourbon coming in at ninety 1283 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 2: point eight approof Kentucky Owl barred sound a neat Yes, 1284 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 2: the Cube Water forty dollars, absolutely worth it, absolutely worth trying. 1285 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 2: And the Liga Undercrown Maduro Toro six by fifty two, 1286 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 2: big cigar. 1287 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: But absolutely have a great labor day. 1288 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 2: We're eat drink smoke, Eat drinksmokeshow dot com