1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: It is a strikedown of tariffs, a huge loss for 4 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. That's how it's gonna get played. And we 5 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: should be clear it's a loss. It is a six 6 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: to three decision from the Supreme Court saying that the 7 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: iee PA cannot be utilized. It does not authorize the 8 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: president to impose tariffs of. 9 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: Unlimited duration and unlimited amount. 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: to be with you. William Jacobson joins me right now, 12 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Cornell Law, professor of the mind behind legal insurrection dot com. 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: You're already to the writing, I mean, and here is 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the story. Supreme Court strikes down Trump's tariffs. Let's walk 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 1: through this about what is the iee PA and. 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: What this six' to three decision actually. 17 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: Says, well The Supreme court decision came down about an hour. 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: Ago it's when you add the majority decision and all the. 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: DISSENTS i think it's one hundred and twenty two, Pages 20 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: SO i can't say THAT i have scrutinized every line in, 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: it BUT i have the gist of IT i THINK i, 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: understand and essentially What Justice Chief Justice, roberts joined by 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: the three liberals plus the two so called, Conservatives, Cony, 24 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: barrett And, gorsich found that imposing tariffs was not one 25 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: of the remedies allowed under the emergency statute that otherwise 26 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: allows the president to regulate. Importation and that's the key, 27 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: phrase reg. Importation and the question was what does that? 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: Mean and it's not one hundred percent, clear but they 29 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 3: held that whatever it, means it does not mean imposing. 30 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: Tariffs and that's really the gist of. It there's a very, 31 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: persuasive in my, view dissent By, cavanaugh joined By thomas And, 32 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: alito which argues, otherwise And i'm happy to talk about. 33 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: That but you, know one of the startling things during 34 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: the oral arguments when this took place is everybody agreed 35 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: that this statute to regulate importation would Allow Donald trump 36 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: to completely bar imports from a particular. Country and the argument, was, 37 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: well if he can bar all imports From, china can 38 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: he impose a one dollar tariff on imports From? China 39 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: and The Supreme court, held, apparently, no he. Can't and 40 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: that's Where kavanaugh picked up how. Nonsensical this is how nonsense. 41 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 3: Go the reading of the regulation. 42 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: Is so we should be clear that this is about 43 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: a specific piece of, legislation the IEE, pa which is 44 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: The International Emergency Economic Powers. Act this isn't a conversation 45 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: of whether or not tariffs can be. Implemented it's not 46 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: The president was, saying this is the, law the rule 47 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: That i'm going to utilize in this, case not even 48 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: necessarily in all, cases but in the cases Of, China, 49 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: mexico And, canada for. 50 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: Example that's. 51 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: Right we have to be very clear that this is 52 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: not a policy. ARGUMENT i think the policy is hovering 53 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: over everything whether you think tariffs are good or. Bad 54 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: but it would be completely consistent to SAY i don't 55 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: like these. TARIFFS i feel they are an unnecessary cost 56 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: passed along to The american. Consumer that's, fine but that's 57 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: not the question. Here, fortunately, though that political question hovers over. 58 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: Everything and the question here is under this specific law 59 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: passed By, congress does the president's power to quote regulate 60 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: importation close quote include Tariffs and The Supreme court held it, 61 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: didn't and the three dissenters says it does because Historically 62 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: Richard nixon imposed tariffs and those we are upheld, historically 63 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: the president's power is very wide, ranging much in the 64 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: way it's wide ranging with regard to things regarding international 65 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: affairs and foreign. Affairs and So, KAVANAUGH i think, said 66 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: AND i don't think he used the word, nonsensical but 67 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: he used a similar word that it makes no sense 68 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: to say the president could completely cut off, trade but 69 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: not to allow the president a lesser, remedy which is 70 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: to impose a. Tariff and so that's it's the STRANGEST 71 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: i can't help but recall back to The obamacare decision 72 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: back in twenty, twelve Where Chief Justice roberts was the 73 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: deciding vote to bend over backwards to Save, obamacare and 74 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: he did it unexpectedly to almost everybody by saying that 75 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: it was within The congress's power to. Tax, okay so 76 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: he found that it was unconstitutional under The commerce, clutes 77 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: but it. 78 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: Was Within congress's power to. 79 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: Tack so he bend over backwards to uphold what the administration. 80 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: Did they're what The congress. Did now that was. 81 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: Legislation this is a, statute so it is a little bit. 82 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: Different but the, gymnastics the mental gymnastics gone through to 83 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: Uphold obamacare are completely absent from the majority decision. Here in, 84 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: fact you could say there are mental gymnastics to strike 85 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: down the, tariffs to find that you can completely cut 86 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: off trade With, china but you can't impose a. Tariff 87 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 3: that takes it a bit of mental. 88 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: Gymnastics talking To William, jacobson The Cornell law professor of 89 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: the mind behind legal insurrection dot, com and it is 90 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: this idea that the president has the ability to, regulate 91 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: and the IE pa says that these emergency powers can 92 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: be utilized to. 93 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: Regulate but regulate does not mean a. 94 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: Tariff and as we've, seen we've got these other avenues 95 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: that the president can. Explore we're going to get more into, 96 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: those but you bring Up Justice, kavanaugh who is part 97 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: of the descent before we get. There there's there's no 98 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: question of Wheks Tandy Brown jackson or Where Sonya sono 99 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: mayor we're going to be on a case like, This Helena, 100 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: KAGAN i always consider be a little more of a 101 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: possibility any any which. Way but when Any, Cody, Barrett, 102 00:06:54,480 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: roberts And gorsich go over to this, side is this, say, 103 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: man we really misread these. People certainly we Misread John, 104 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: roberts and that's been a long time held belief by 105 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of. People was it a misread Of Amy, 106 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Cony barrett And gorsich on conservative bona fides on their 107 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: constitutional bonafides. 108 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: In doing, so OR i have in their? Opinion did 109 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: they try to make sense of it? 110 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: All, well you, KNOW i. 111 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: Think they're honest people who hold their views and try 112 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: to do what they believe is correct under The constitution 113 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: and the interpretation of. Statutes, yes it's absolutely true we 114 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: supposedly have a six' to, three Majority but i'm not 115 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: sure we. 116 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 4: Really do and it's it's always been. That way The 117 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: three liberals vote in. A. 118 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: BLOCK okay i can't say there's never in a case 119 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: where they haven't voted as, a block but it's rare 120 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: they vote as. A BLOCK and i haven't had, time 121 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: Today and i'm NOT sure i have the patience even 122 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: later today to read the concurring opinions by the three. 123 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: Liberal justices it's somewhat irrelevant at, this point AND certainly 124 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: i don't have the patience to. Read It Kaitanji brown, 125 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: jackson CONCURRING although i may, read it, you know for, 126 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: the laws so. To Speak but the, point is, you, 127 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: know Look The supreme court is not in lockstep six 128 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: to three in favor of things this. Administration does and 129 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: that's just, the reality AND so i can't say it 130 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: was a misread. Of Them certainly roberts in many cases 131 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: has been a. Huge disappointment, you know, his view his 132 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: institutionalist view of the court does not seem to be 133 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: shared by the three open liberals on. The court and 134 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: so is it, A misread i, don't know but certainly 135 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: there have been. Some disappointments on the, other hand in 136 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: emergency petitions To The supreme court in this, CURRENT administration 137 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 3: i think ninety plus have gone in favor of. The 138 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: administration so while this may, disappoint PEOPLE and i, UNDERSTAND 139 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: that i don't think you can write Off the court at. 140 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: This point certainly the liberals hate this court with a 141 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: burning passion and can't wait to expand it or. 142 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: Destroy it so you can't win, them. 143 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: All which, is, Crazy right they're gonna love this decision 144 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: and still Hate the court and still say The court's 145 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: trump's handpick court and all. The rest by, the way 146 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: can we Discuss how trump is the worst dictator and 147 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: authoritarian in the world because you know he's going to 148 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: go along with. What happened they're going to figure out. 149 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: Another WAY and i think that's the point to dig in, 150 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: on HERE and i want to do that Talking To, 151 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: William Jacobson, cornell law professor of the mind behind legal insurrection. 152 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: Dot com but let's get Into this kavanaugh descent as 153 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: you're talking, about it because you wrote about it and 154 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: you shared parts of the Descent where kavanaugh is basically 155 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: saying about this very concept of regulate via THE, ieep 156 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: A The International Emergency Economic. Powers, act hey rest Of The, 157 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: supreme court you don't make. No sense if REGULATE means 158 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: i don't have to allow the products in regulate can 159 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: EASILY mean i can set a tariff on. The product 160 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: This is kavanaugh's argument to the majority in, the, court 161 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: saying you don't quite actually have an. 162 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: Argument here, that's right and that again was discussed at 163 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: great length during the, oral arguments and it was pretty 164 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: shocking that even the attorney for the people Challenging what 165 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: trump was, doing, admitted yes he could completely ban imports 166 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 3: from any. Particular country it makes, no sense and that's really. 167 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 3: THE problem i think that what people really have a 168 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: problem with are. The tariffs tariffs normally have to be Passed, 169 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: by congress but there is this. Carve out tariffs are 170 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: considered by, many PEOPLE and i think this. 171 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 4: Is right is a form. Of, Tax personally i'm not. 172 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 3: Thrilled with in my day to, day life the cost 173 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: of the COFFEE beans i buy has, almost doubled okay 174 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: since these twerffs, were imposed because all coffee comes from 175 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: abroad except Maybe, from hawaii but that's ridiculously, expensive anyway the. 176 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: ConA coffee but the point is that you can be 177 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: opposed to this, And, say, okay Well maybe congress shouldn't 178 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: have passed. The statute however many decades ago they. 179 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: Passed it but. 180 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: They did and that's really the question is what does 181 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: this mean to? Regulate importation And if congress gave the 182 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: president the power to, do that doesn't that include all 183 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: of the lesserremedies short of? Banning trade and THAT'S really 184 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: i think. The question And, SO kavanaugh i think is. 185 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: Onto it thomas of course is always, onto It and 186 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: alito and those are really the core of the conservatives on. 187 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: The court the other three could go anyway on any. 188 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: Given case AND before i let you know my point, 189 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: is comedic but it's. 190 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: Also factual they're gonna Claim that trump's. 191 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: An authoritarian They're Gonna, rakim Jeffries The house, minority leader has, 192 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: already said a fantastic win against this. Wannabe king they 193 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: don't stop doing this even when presented with. 194 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: The, reality that of course he's not. A king of 195 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: course he's. Not Authoritarian The supreme court has. 196 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Ruled here if, You there since there's no other way 197 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: For the president to go about doing this under the i. 198 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: E E, p a one has to assume he's going 199 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: to take other measures and other ways to try and 200 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: keep tariffs. SOMEHOW alive i mean you could, argue politically, he, 201 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: SAYS well, i tried and now things. Aren't, great well 202 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: that's because, you know of, the court not because of. 203 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: The leftists and and and all. The rest he could 204 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: try and go down. 205 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: That road but the argument that the left is gonna 206 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: give About, authoritarian trump. 207 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: This puts would this please put that? Arrest, already no. 208 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: It's not and, In Fact, susan rice The despicable, obama 209 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: ADMINISTRATION aid i forget what her. Title was she had 210 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: a lot of high, profile titles put out a video 211 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: saying they're coming After the trump Supporters if democrats get 212 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: back in mawor they are coming. After people they're not. 213 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: Hiding it the reactions that you're seeing have nothing to 214 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: do with the merits of. The case It's all trump. 215 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: Derangement syndrome it's about twenty twenty six. Mid terms it's 216 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: about twenty twenty eight. Presidential election the, Authority Authoritarian No 217 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: king's day is. Complete nonsense who is the president who 218 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: did actually Disregard A supreme Court Ruling joe biden on 219 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: student loans and they had to come back, multiple times 220 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: and so. 221 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 4: It's. 222 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: Complete nonsense trump will obey this like he has Obeyed 223 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 3: Every supreme, court order whether they're for him or. Against 224 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 3: him and, in fact he doesn't openly defy any court 225 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: orders as much as some of his supporters push him to. 226 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 3: Do it the thumbs nose of the, federal judiciary particularly the, 227 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: district courts which in many cases have gone off the. 228 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: Rails completely, you Know with trump. Derangement syndrome he doesn't. 229 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: Do that he doesn't. 230 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: Do that it's a. 231 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: COMPLETE fabrication i don't know if they. BELIEVE it i 232 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 3: think some of them, believe it judging on the postings 233 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: of high. SCHOOL friends a lot of liberals have completely 234 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: bought into. 235 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: This stuff. 236 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: It's Insane so trump will find another way to get 237 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: done what he wants to. Get done but there's no 238 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: question this is a big blow to him because he 239 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: was using the tariffs as a lesser remedy rather than 240 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: cutting off trade to enforce his. 241 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: Foreign policy by, The Way susan rice Was The National 242 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: security Advisor Under, barack obama and she did refer To if, 243 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: democrats win they will enact an. 244 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: Accountability agenda that was the exact wording that. 245 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: She Used, William Jacobson cornell Law professor legal insurrection, DOT 246 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: com i appreciate you taking the time to be. 247 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: With us more is. Coming Up I'm tony katz and 248 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: This Is. Tony. KATZ today i was commenting that there 249 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: are people in the. 250 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: Chat room who are Saying that tony must be so 251 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: excited that these tariffs got, kicked out considering how much he. 252 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Hates tariffs you have me very, Very Wrong, Tony Katz tony, 253 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,359 Speaker 1: Katz today. 254 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: Good to, Be here good to be. 255 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: With you. 256 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: Tariffs. Are taxes there is, no question there is. No doubt. 257 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: The question before us is that When The supreme court 258 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: says tariffs? 259 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: Are taxes. 260 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: How do they then look at the writing OF THE 261 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: i E e pa and say that's what the president was. 262 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: INVOLVED in i call them TAXES because i don't know 263 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: how else you could possibly. Describe them that is different 264 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: than whether or not the president is able to implement. 265 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: The TARIFFS did i, SAY hello, I Did Tom. 266 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Tony, katz so so make sure we understand, this Decision 267 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: and producer land and is tracking that we're we're expecting 268 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: to Hear From, president trump TO which i assume he 269 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: is going to, be uh wait, for it unkind. 270 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Towards The. Supreme court this is ABOUT the i e E. 271 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: P a this is and you can find the STORY 272 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: as i was Talking To. William jacobson, of course you 273 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: can find the Story at legal insurrection. Dot com the 274 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: ie E p a Is The International Emergency Economic. 275 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: Powers act. 276 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: It is, under this. 277 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Under, this Rule this act That the president. Implemented tariffs 278 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: there are, other tools, other laws, other rules other statutes 279 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: that the president. Can use he has got, a plethora 280 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: a plethora. Of opportunities this WAS. From aei this goes 281 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: Back to december of twenty. Twenty five trump has many 282 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: options If The supreme court strikes down tariffs and they 283 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: just go through, THE list i mean it goes on 284 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: and on and on and on of all of the 285 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: options that the president has at. His disposal so it's 286 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: the people who are gonna be out, there, Saying see 287 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: trump can't put. 288 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: On tariff's of course, he can of course. 289 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: He can this was about a, specific rule a, specific 290 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: act and What The supreme court said is certainly a. 291 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Weird decision i've seen, people say of course the court 292 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: was right. About this. IT should I Think ben shapiro 293 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: said it's have been a nine. 294 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: OH decision i Don't think ben's right. About, That well ben's, A, 295 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: lawyer tony and. You're, Not yeah And doctor fauci was 296 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: a doctor and he TOLD me i have to be 297 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: six feet away from. 298 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: MY grandmother i don't listen to people who claim to. 299 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: Be experts sometimes people. ARE wrong i don't think. 300 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: That's the right DECISION that i oppose tariffs is second 301 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: to whether or not the president has. The authority don't 302 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: ever confuse. The issues, OF course i pose tariff's why they're. 303 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: Freaking taxes, I'M right I know. I'm right i'll tell 304 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Your mother, I'm right, i'm right this is about whether 305 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: or not. He can now we get into a really 306 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: a whole different Conversation which i'd love to get your. 307 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: Thoughts about let me Know on twitter Ex At tony 308 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: katz in. 309 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: The chatroom as we livestream, on YouTube you can Email 310 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: me tony at tonykats. 311 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: Dot com If You're, donald trump what do you? Do 312 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: next do you? Keep tariffing do you find? 313 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: Another way or do, you, say, HEY guys, i tried because, 314 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: you know if the tariff come off and prices, come 315 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: down that's. 316 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: Better for you heading into a midterm To keep democrats 317 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: at bay so you don't. Get. Impeached kids, you know 318 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: there's a silver lining, to, everything right all you want 319 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: to play SOME four, d chess let's. Do that grab, 320 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: a bourbon let's. Discuss it and If the president does, 321 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: start speaking, Don't worry i'm gonna bring it. To you keep. 322 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: It here This Is tony. Kats today. 323 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: So the president is scheduled to whole the press conference 324 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: about the, tariff decision and it seems that a lot 325 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: of people are confused by all the options and opportunities that. 326 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: This brings. 327 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: One of the beautiful things ABOUT being, us guys is 328 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: that we never once have to worry about something we 329 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: said prior because we're. Always honest tariffs. Are Taxes, Tony 330 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: Kats tony, kats today good to be. With You president 331 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: trump believed the tariff was the most beautiful word in 332 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: the world and that tariffs were helpful in creating. 333 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: Trade deals that's. His belief that's. 334 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: HIS take i couldn't convince. Him otherwise that's what. He believed, 335 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: WE oh i, SAY we i. Mean me maybe you 336 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: were with ME or i believe that when you create better, 337 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: financial opportunities when you have lower, cost structures you create lower, 338 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: tax structures you create opportunities to build. More business and 339 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: certainly one could not look at trade deficits and say 340 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: the answer. Is tariffs it was a mistake said so from. 341 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: The beginning i'm on, the record you don't change trade deficits. 342 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: With tariffs it was a mistake from. The beginning it 343 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: was a. Complete, misread now the tariffs did show some 344 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: things that were kind, of, incredible like, for example that 345 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: inflation did. Not explode inflation is, not gone AND the 346 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: fed has been talking. About THIS the fed is very 347 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: clearly saying that they have a concern about, interest Rates 348 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: And president trump is still infuriated with Your own powell. 349 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: About this but inflation didn't jump up, four five six 350 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: seven percent and didn't get Into the biden years. 351 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 2: Nowhere near. 352 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: And so this talk that the tariffs are going, to 353 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: explode that it didn't and that's still worthy. 354 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: Of study but the idea that the tariff didn't, raise, 355 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: costs well of course tariffs. Raised costs we. 356 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: Said so we didn't say so, because man it's really 357 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: good to Be against trump Or for trump and. Stop 358 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: it it's because it was what, it was what. It 359 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: was when you honestly, address subjects you don't have to 360 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: find yourself on the back foot. 361 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: Of anything the tariffs. 362 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: Increased costs trump's philosophy was the tariffs create deals that 363 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: make things Better. 364 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: For america do we see do we see the investments? 365 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: Still come what of all these trade? Deals now do 366 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: they now? Go defunct. 367 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: If the trade deal was created under the guise of, the, 368 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: tariff right and now you don't have, the tariff does 369 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: the trade deal? Still exist does the trade deal now 370 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: something That gets senate approval by? 371 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: The, stretch. 372 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: Remember if the DEAL brought us billions, Of Dollars senate democrats, would, 373 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: say no. 374 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: We. 375 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Understand that so as we're watching this, play out people 376 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: are going to spend things for their political purpose, all day, 377 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: all night and all. 378 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: The time that's not, our job. That's madness. 379 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: Our job is to certainly confront anybody, who's lying anybody. 380 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: Who wants to. Spin narrative we don't have to concern 381 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: ourselves with the people who. 382 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Are fraudsters what we have to do is, ask ourselves 383 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: what is it that we, want next what's really going 384 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: to help this? Economy next and so this IS why 385 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: i bring up that one of the ideas is don't 386 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Do Anything. President trump tariffs were the thing that we're. 387 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Hurting you tariffs were the thing that we're. Limiting manufacturing 388 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: tariffs were the thing that we're keeping us from the 389 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: explosion of economic opportunity that. 390 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: Can, come now why not let. It come don't do 391 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: anything about, the tariffs leave them, be. 392 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: Instead let this, economy cook let yourself have a couple 393 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: OF good. Gdp quarters let's see what we build over 394 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: the next, six months and then start talking about for. 395 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: The, MIDTERMS well I guess i juiced the engine right with. 396 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: THE tariffs i. 397 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Was right, you know If The supreme court had, LET 398 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: me i WOULD have i. 399 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: Would have, you know it would have been. Even better 400 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: but look how good. Things are that's a way to go. 401 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: About this, let me by, the way bring us second 402 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: points up and a great way for you to confront all, 403 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: these nonsense. Silly Progressives The supreme court ruled that, the 404 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: president through THE, iee pa cannot apply tariffs that Would 405 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: Make donald trump the worst authoritarian in. 406 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: The world. 407 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm told he's a wanna. Be king i'm told he's. 408 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: An authoritarian i'm told he's. A dictator but six people 409 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 1: in robes just told the president who was elected by 410 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: nearly eighty, million people he can't. 411 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: Do something you know what's. Gonna happen he ain't going to. 412 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: Do it worst authoritarian in. The, world. 413 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: Now somebody is asking a, good question even though they 414 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: asked it in a, rude WAY because i assume if, you're, like, 415 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: hey buddy, answer this that you're. 416 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: Being rude how do you pay? 417 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: Them? 418 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: Back hey what back? THE tariffs i believe the number 419 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: is one hundred and seventy. Billion dollars that number can 420 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: change of tariffs that. Were collected they now have to get. 421 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: Paid BACK and i Believe That justice kavanaugh even discussed 422 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: the fact that this this idea. 423 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: Is insane do you know how messy this is going? To, 424 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: be oh you better. Believe it it's going to be. 425 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: Very messy one. 426 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: Would assume one would assume it's going to be outrageously difficult. 427 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: To. 428 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: Figure, out okay this dollar goes here and this dollar, 429 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: goes there and, but YES as i, understand it, that, 430 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: yes indeed this has to get. 431 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: Paid back. 432 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: Now is the president going, to, say, well, no no 433 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: well that will just apply this rule for the tariffs 434 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: and all that money. 435 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: Just stays. 436 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: Is the president going to turn to these countries, and, 437 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: say hey you paid. These tariffs now let's turn. 438 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: Into investment, but wait the country didn't pay. The tariff 439 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: we paid. THE tariff i swear, TO you I wish 440 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 2: i had an answer for, that ONE and. I don't 441 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: i don't have an answer for that one. At all 442 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: as a matter of just, this decision. 443 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: EVEN though i don't, like tariffs Even though i've been opposed, 444 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: TO tariffs i still think this decision. 445 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: Is odd and the. 446 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: Parsing of the idea of of, this authority the parsing of, 447 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: the state the concept of regulating importation and that it doesn't. 448 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: Include tariffs take your lover Hate for trump out, of, 449 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: it right that. Doesn't matter the rule SAYS THE. I. 450 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: E e pa states That the president has the authority to. 451 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: Regulate importation regulate doesn't, include tariffs but it does include. 452 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: WHOLESALE bans i. 453 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: DON'T know, I don't. 454 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: I don't i don't quite know how you square. THAT 455 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: circle i don't know how the justices came, to that 456 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: the six justices came to. 457 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: THAT conclusion i do know that it Proves that trump is. 458 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: Not authoritarian, and now as a follow up for the 459 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: political left who told us that This was trump's, handpicked 460 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: court a. Terrible court the court has to be. Blown 461 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: up we need to pack. The court the, Court's terrible 462 00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: the Court's. 463 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: On america? What now or can we admit that the 464 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: left is totally full. 465 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: Of crap they're always full, of crap and they will 466 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: say anything at any time just to Go. After trump 467 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: trump always bad and therefore they will still do. 468 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: Anything to Go. 469 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: After trump they don't actually believe a thing. They say 470 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: can they just gaslight and manipulate you in order to get. 471 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: The vote that's the question ahead, Of US and i 472 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: believe that we. Know that the answer. Is yep they 473 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 2: will lie. About anything but if they, get power are 474 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: they going to pack? The court you better. Believe It. 475 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: The president may start speaking soon On The supreme. Court 476 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: decision it is dominating. The day also want to get 477 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: into what does. 478 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: It mean to engage in a war Action? With iran 479 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: and is it really fifteen? DAYS away i will discuss that. 480 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: As well keep. It Here I'm. 481 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: Tony katz This Is Tony. Kats Today so i've got 482 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: a live shot right Now The White House. 483 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: Briefing room. 484 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: That's Where the president's. COMING out i would have thought 485 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: maybe it was just a basic, press conference maybe he'd 486 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: bring people into. 487 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: The oval maybe it would be in. The, END well 488 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: i don't even know there is an east room, right 489 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: now but he's there in the. 490 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Briefing room they have pulled in the podium with the 491 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: seal Of the president Of The. United states this is 492 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: gonna be, A Show, Tony Katz tony. Kats today good to, 493 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: Be here good to be. With You the president speaking 494 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: out On The supreme. Court, Decision oh, i'm sorry if 495 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: you can hear. 496 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: That audio there. We go i'll cut off. 497 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Their audio the six to three decision to Tell the 498 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: president you cannot. Engage tariffs but this is under a 499 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: specific piece, OF legislation i, should say, an act THE, 500 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: Iee pa and it is imperative we remind people. Of 501 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: this this is not about whether or Not the president 502 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: can still engage. 503 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Tarris can maybe he has the possibility of doing this in, 504 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: other ways. 505 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: But Under The International Economic Emergency, powers, Act. 506 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: No so that's What The supreme court said. Just today so, 507 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: with that we'll wait For the president to. COME out 508 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: i will bring it to you as MUCH as i. 509 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: POSSIBLY can i will bring that. 510 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: TO you i also Want to i'll get a little 511 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: more in depth on what's going On with iram and 512 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: the giving of a fifteen days to come to a 513 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: deal regarding nuclear Capabilities. In IRAN and i said, to, 514 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: myself wait didn't we take out their? Nuclear capabilities why 515 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: do we need? Fifteen days it's like fifteen days to. 516 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: Flatten the Curb the what the. Bloody heck. 517 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: It's clear that there's going to be some movement FROM 518 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: the Us, in iran and it is clear that, there 519 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: is at least in, the conversations a desire to end. 520 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: THE regime. 521 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: I put forth to you that the desire is not 522 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: one that exists from the whole Of The, united, States. 523 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: Right that's not where this is. Coming from that's not where, 524 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: this pressure pressure and push is. COMING from i. 525 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: Put forth to you That this Board of, peace conversation 526 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: the seven million dollars that has been committed to Investments, 527 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: into gaza this announcement From the ISRAELI The us Ambassador, 528 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: To Israel, mike Huckabee that israel will not be putting 529 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: any money. 530 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: Into this they are going to. 531 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Stay out of that part, of it so they can 532 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: be seen as not trying to put their thumb on 533 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: the scale for anything that. 534 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: TAKES place. 535 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: I believe that this is coming from all of those other. 536 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: Neighboring nations this is a hard one for the leftist. 537 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: To handle this is a hard one For the tuckers 538 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: And the canvases And The dave smiths to. Deal with 539 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: iran has always been the problem and has always been. 540 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: The enemy that is not to say that we don't have. 541 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: Other enemies It Is saudi arabia that was complicit in 542 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: allowing Opportunities for, september eleventh and we Never Handled saudi. 543 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: Arabia properly it's too. Late now. 544 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: Because in the Choice Of saudi Arabia, or iran dealing 545 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: with the world as it is not the way we 546 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: would like it. To be you'd rather Deal With. Saudi 547 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: arabia no one can Deal. With iram no one wants 548 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: to deal With. The ayatola no one wants to deal 549 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: with this to. Stabilizing force. 550 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 2: No one. 551 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: At all is enjoying the idea that trade has been, 552 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: so impacted that their safety and security on a daily 553 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: basis has been. 554 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: So impacted they. Hate it. 555 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: They absolutely cannot, stand it and they know that they 556 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: are all, better off all. 557 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: Of them name the nation If a yan. 558 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Isn't there and if you want to start with the 559 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: two that believe it, the most It's the saudis and It's. 560 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: The turks. 561 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: They both would like to see themselves as the. Hegemonic 562 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: power they both want to be a dominant player in. 563 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: The area but they have. A Problem The united states 564 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: wants to be the dominant player in. The area, no 565 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: wait that's not. 566 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: Right either they can't engage and create a better world 567 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: In The middle East with iran. Still there so they 568 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: Need The united states to help remove. That problem and 569 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: that's where, we are and that's what. We're seeing that's, 570 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: the situation that's. 571 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 2: THE deal i think at this stage of, the game 572 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: it's hard. To deny. 573 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: At this stage of, the game it would be hard 574 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: to think that this isn't a large part of. The 575 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: impetus we're gonna put seven billion dollars. Into this we 576 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: don't Want the iranians. Bombing something we don't want the 577 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: bank for. 578 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 2: Any terrorists we, Need this we need this. Done with 579 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: we can all. 580 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: Control ourselves these guys can't, control themselves so we gotta 581 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: do something. About this and that's where we. Are now 582 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: if that's, the case then We're not we're not talking 583 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: about coming to deals regarding. Nuclear capabilities we're talking about 584 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: coming to deals of the removal of, the ayatola which 585 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: is the only way to get, free people the only 586 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: way for those people to survive and thrive, and grow 587 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: the only way. 588 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: For the iyatola to. Be gone that's what. 589 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: We're Watching the president is scheduled to speak the six' 590 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: To three supreme court decision going against him saying he 591 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: cannot engage tariffs UNDER. 592 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: The iee pa what will this mean and how does 593 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: the money? Get paid back there's a Lot of questions 594 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: the president's. Scheduled to speak i'll bring. It to You 595 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: This is, tony cases today