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Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: All I'm asking for is for Republicans to fight. Could

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Speaker 2: you please, pretty please act like you want to win?

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Speaker 2: That's it, nothing more, nothing less. Just act like you

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Speaker 2: want to win, Act like it matters. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz Today. Good to be here, Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 3: I was on Newsmax yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And when I was on uh Newsmax, we had a

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Speaker 2: conversation about I don't think it was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: about winning, but rather it's what we're seeing with ice

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Speaker 2: and a whole host of subjects.

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Speaker 4: And have Republicans somehow.

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Speaker 2: Been unwilling Are they unwilling to go about the very

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Speaker 2: concepts of winning? And you take a look at the

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Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security shutdown? How is it possible that

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Speaker 2: we don't have Republicans saying that Democrats are going to

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Speaker 2: get kids killed?

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Speaker 4: Why don't we have this.

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Speaker 3: If you are now going to have.

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Speaker 2: No funding for TSA, no funding for the Coastguard, you're

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Speaker 2: allowing fentanyl to get to the United States, kids are

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Speaker 2: gonna get killed.

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Speaker 4: Democrats are going to kill kids?

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Speaker 2: How is this not like the easiest thing in the

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Speaker 2: world to understand.

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Speaker 4: How one plays this, how one uh does this?

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Speaker 2: Why is it that so many people have such large

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Speaker 2: scale problems with having this fight with how to fight?

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Speaker 4: Because that's the story.

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Speaker 2: The story here is about how to fight. And it

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Speaker 2: seems to me that the political right doesn't have too

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Speaker 2: much of an interest in fighting.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why this is.

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Speaker 2: I've had some people say to me, I think I

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Speaker 2: discussed this the other day, that maybe what's happening is

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Speaker 2: the Republicans want to lose. Well, why in the world

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Speaker 2: would they want to lose? Well, because it's easier to

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Speaker 2: be in the minority party. You get to complain and

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Speaker 2: catterwall and bitch and moan, but you can't actually get

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Speaker 2: anything done.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, well, what are we gonna do?

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Speaker 3: Maybe we won some.

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Speaker 2: Elections it's easier. Well, that's some really frustrating stuff. That's

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Speaker 2: some really frustrating stuff. Indeed, now I have been staring

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Speaker 2: a lot at numbers. You know, I have this event

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Speaker 2: coming up February twenty eighth, Trump one year.

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Speaker 3: Later, So it was supposed to be like this big gallon.

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Speaker 2: What it's turned into is here's how we win the midterms.

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Speaker 4: Here's how it's going to work. Do you want to win?

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Speaker 2: This is the path, this is methodology. And don't let

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Speaker 2: anybody tell you that it can't be done. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've got the data right here. It's not easy. I

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Speaker 2: will I will concede that. Look here, here are some

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Speaker 2: of the numbers. Right which party will win the Senate

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Right now, the Republicans have a

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Speaker 2: sixty percent chance. If you go back to September, their

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Speaker 2: chances were seventy five percent, So now it's sixty percent,

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Speaker 2: sixty to forty one. If you take a look at

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Speaker 2: they now say it's an eighty three percent chance that

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Speaker 2: the Democrats will win the House. Now, traditionally this is

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Speaker 2: the case, of course, the party not in power is

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Speaker 2: able to take back one or both houses. It didn't

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Speaker 4: To keep both and to look at that. Let's take

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Speaker 4: a look at this right here, this.

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Speaker 2: Is just one pole interactive Polls twenty twenty six generic

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Speaker 2: congressional ballot. The difference between generic and knowing who's on

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Speaker 2: the ballot is that when you know, it creates different

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Speaker 2: personal feelings that could change how you vote. But generic

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Speaker 2: forty five percent, Democrat forty two percent, Republican twelve percent

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Speaker 2: not sure. It's a three point spread. That's a three

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Speaker 2: point spread. That poll would tell me that everything is

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Speaker 4: But maybe what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Doing, Maybe what I'm doing is I'm I'm just I'm.

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Speaker 3: Being too too hopeful about it.

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Speaker 2: This is over, this is lost, this is done, This

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Speaker 2: is Harryenton CNN.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Democrats in the minds of the American

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Speaker 5: public are lower than the dead sea. What are we

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Speaker 5: talking about here, Well, let's take a look the net

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Speaker 5: approval rating for Democrats in Congress. You said of Kate Baldwin,

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Speaker 5: the lowest ever.

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Speaker 4: Look at this.

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Speaker 5: Overall, they are fifty five points underwater. They're approval rating

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Speaker 5: look at Independence. Look at this negative sixty one points.

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Speaker 5: That means that they're approval rating is sixty one points

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Speaker 5: lower than their disapproval rating. Quinnipiac has been pulling this

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Speaker 5: question for the better part of the twenty first century.

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Speaker 5: They have never found Democrats, at least those in Congress

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Speaker 2: That is not good news. That's really ugly news for

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. But I want to be clear, there's

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Speaker 2: also a way this plays against Republicans.

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Speaker 4: Again, Harry Enton.

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Speaker 5: Happy Washington's birthday, observe today, That's what it is in

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Speaker 5: the state.

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Speaker 4: Of New York.

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Speaker 3: I'm a New Yorker through and through.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a look at another president, though, President Donald

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Speaker 5: John Trump.

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Speaker 3: Look at this.

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Speaker 5: I got four numbers across for you on this screen.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 4: They are all.

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Speaker 5: Second term lows for the given poster. What are we

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Speaker 5: talking about? Ap and Ork twenty six points below order NBC,

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Speaker 5: six points. You know, Kate, there's this question that folks

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Speaker 5: keep asking, you know, where is the floor for Donald Trump?

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Speaker 4: And I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: There is a floor because if there is one, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: at least in term number two has just fallen.

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Speaker 3: Throw it to another low level.

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Speaker 2: Now, I want to say for the record that people

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Speaker 2: are gonna be like Tony. It't CNN. You can't trust anything.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, CNN can't be trusted. I think

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Speaker 2: Harry Enton does a very good job with the numbers.

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Speaker 2: And I look at this and I say, these numbers

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Speaker 2: I also because I have discussed it before and I've

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Speaker 2: looked into this more than once in my life. I

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Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that true. Now one could argue that's it,

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Speaker 2: that's when he runs for office versus when he's in office.

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Speaker 2: But I don't look at these these drops in net

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Speaker 3: Move people to vote.

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Speaker 2: People will vote on the economy, and this used to

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Speaker 2: be a nothing but economy election. This was gonna be

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Speaker 2: a standard midterm Economy was gonna be ninety plus percent.

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Speaker 4: Of what people are voting on. I don't think that's

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Speaker 4: the case anymore.

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Speaker 2: You want to argue that everything regarding Ice has played

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Speaker 2: bad for the Republican Party, and this is just all

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Speaker 2: embarrassing for them, and people are gonna keep protesting about ICE,

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Speaker 2: and that's gonna lead to the Democrats of victory.

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Speaker 3: Could lead to the Democrats of victory.

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Speaker 2: It's why I have said that one of the things

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Speaker 2: he has to do is keep going forward with ICE.

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Speaker 2: He has to keep moving to remove illegal immigrants from

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Speaker 2: the streets, because that is indeed what people voted for.

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Speaker 2: This was part of my argument that I made on

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Speaker 2: Newsmax on Monday when I was speaking.

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Speaker 4: With Carl Higbee.

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Speaker 3: On this subject. So this was me on Monday. Here listen,

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Speaker 3: that's himself. All right, Tony.

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Speaker 4: You have discussed a lot of these types of things

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Speaker 4: on your show, sir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a conversation that comes up aggressively and constantly.

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Speaker 2: My issue here is that you can talk about, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll take care, we'll get rid of this for Congress.

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Speaker 3: You won't have that for Congress.

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Speaker 2: Where are Republicans to say that Democrats, by shutting down

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Speaker 2: a Department of Homeland Security are killing American kids. Where

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Speaker 2: are they to say that because we're shutting down DHS,

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Speaker 2: Democrats favorite pensanel Tony to.

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Speaker 3: Your children on the playground, Tony, why.

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Speaker 2: Is it that they won't fight the way that the

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Speaker 2: political left fights.

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Speaker 4: This is the moment, this is the time.

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Speaker 2: There was a really weird thing happening where the Republicans

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Speaker 2: have failed to learn the lessons of Trump, which I

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Speaker 2: was under the impression that they had learned from the beginning,

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Speaker 2: and they won't fight the way they need to to

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Speaker 2: make this issue a very pressure filled one on the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party.

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Speaker 3: But now you'll forgive me.

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Speaker 4: I did not hear Carl trying.

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Speaker 3: To interrupt me. I would have stopped normally.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what the Republicans are doing right

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Speaker 2: now when it comes to the shutdown. Where's the fight,

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Speaker 2: where's the push, where is the punch in the face,

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Speaker 2: where is the every day walking up to Kim Jeffries,

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Speaker 2: walking up to Chuck Schumer and saying, you're going to

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Speaker 2: get kids killed, Shame on you. The blood's on your hand,

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Speaker 2: you animal, and then walk away. And then of course

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Speaker 2: we're talking to Chuck Schumer saying, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: you don't know how to make a cheeseburger.

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Speaker 4: You make a cheeseburger like a sociopath.

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Speaker 3: Walk away? Where are they?

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Speaker 4: Where are they?

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Speaker 3: And the answer is, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't no why it is they aren't fighting the

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Speaker 2: way they need to fight. I don't know why it

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Speaker 2: is they aren't pushing back aggressively. I do not know

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Speaker 2: why it is they are not aggressively trying to control

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Speaker 2: the narrative.

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Speaker 3: I don't have the answer.

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Speaker 2: What I can tell you is when we discuss the

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Speaker 2: very idea of fighting, because it should be asked, what

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Speaker 2: does it mean? And it's something that I'm going to

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Speaker 2: get into in great detail on February twenty eighth, And

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, get your tickets.

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Speaker 3: We're in the mood for work.

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Speaker 3: Get your tickets.

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Speaker 2: I think part of our problem is that we've never

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Speaker 2: defined what fighting is actually all about. And it's not

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Speaker 2: screaming and yelling, but it is about always confronting on

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Speaker 2: every level and in every way.

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Speaker 3: The narrative.

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Speaker 2: It must be confronted, it must be broken, and the

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Speaker 2: people who push it must be mocked and ridiculed till

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Speaker 2: there's nothing left.

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Speaker 3: You say to me, Tony, that's not civil.

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

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Speaker 2: That's not We don't even understand the definition of civility.

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Speaker 2: Civility is when the majority does not tyrannize the minority.

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Speaker 2: It's when the majority doesn't lock people up for having

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Speaker 2: wholesale slaughter.

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Speaker 3: Those who disagree. That's civility.

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Speaker 2: You think I have to respond to people who push

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Speaker 2: communism with some kind of fake civility, nonsense, garbage.

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Speaker 3: Crap, No, no, no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I have to directly call it out is garbage, and

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Speaker 2: I have to shame the people.

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Speaker 4: Who dare push it.

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Speaker 2: The Democratic Party has a shutdown anytime they want, and

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Speaker 2: Republicans go on defense. No no, no, no, no, you're.

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Speaker 4: Shutting down the Coastguard.

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Speaker 2: The drugs are gonna come and they're gonna kill someone's kid,

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Speaker 2: and the blood will be on your hands. Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 2: you murderous bastard. Now you don't like it. I don't

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Speaker 2: like it, but I didn't make up the rules. All

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Speaker 2: I want is to fight utilizing the rules that we have.

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Speaker 3: These are them.

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Speaker 4: You want to shut down TSA, you don't want TSA.

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Speaker 2: To be funded. Something happens with a plane. That's all

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Speaker 2: on you, Akeem, Jeffries, all on you. Why aren't the

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Speaker 2: Republicans fighting? Because if you want to win these midterms,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to. You have to talk about good

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Speaker 2: things happening.

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Speaker 4: You have to.

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Speaker 2: Address the things that are happening now are great, honestly,

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Speaker 2: and how you're working to make them better. And then

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Speaker 2: when the Democrats are clearly at fault, you have to

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Speaker 2: say so.

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Speaker 3: You're not saying so.

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Speaker 2: So I have a path to victory, and Republicans are smart,

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Speaker 2: they'll be there on February twenty eighth, and they'll listen

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Speaker 2: and they'll do what I tell them.

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Speaker 4: Tickets dot Tony kats dot com.

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Speaker 3: I hope to see you there. I'm Tony Katz, and

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Speaker 3: this is Tony Katz today