1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Indy Car season is underway, the debut race of the 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: twenty sixth season taking place yesterday on the streets of 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg. It was Alex Polow winning in pretty impressive fashion. 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Running right behind him was the guy that was the 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: pole sitter, Scott McLaughlin. And in Scott McLoughlin's ear for 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: the course of the race, a longtime staple within the paddock, 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: and of course the president at one time of Penske 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Team Penske, and then a bit of a vacation, but 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: he is back in the paddock in Tim Senric who 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: joins us now on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: First off, Tim, how are you? It's a pleasure to. 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: Have you, good man. How you doing today? 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: You know what I can't complain and I'm curious from 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: your standpoint, and I want to get into just kind 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: of your emotions of all of it in a minute. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: But when you are a car that starts on pole 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: and really McLachlin, I thought had a solid day running. 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: It didn't look like you guys had any sort of 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: an issue or he put the tire wrong anywhere, and 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: then you finish in seconds, still a solid finish to 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: be on the podium. But do you take away from 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: that that it was a good weekend or a weekend 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: where you left something out there? 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: It was solid. Yeah, I think to start the season out, 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: that's what you want to do. You don't want to 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: play catch up, but yeah, certainly you want to win 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: the race, you know, that's what we're there to do. 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: But sit on the pole and you know, run second 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: to Alex. You know, right now, I think everybody's racing 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: for second until we get just a bit better. You know. 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: I think the speed is there. You know, Scott actually 32 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: had more speed than even showed on Saturday. But he 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: drove a great race. You know, he executed and he 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: did everything he could do. Really do you know do 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: what we did yesterday. So yeah, a solid start, but 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: we want more. For sure. 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: I want to get into tim and for those that 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: are unfamiliar with it, and I apologize for having to 39 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: rehash it this way, but for those that may not 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: be familiar, you know, you've been a long time staple 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: within that team for Roger Penske and Team Penske and 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: then and I can't recall if it was two or 43 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: three years ago, but the incident with the push to 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: pass capability when in a race that wasn't supposed to 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: be there for two of the three cars for Penske 46 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: and a penalty for that. And then last May the 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: incident where there were parts on the rear of the 48 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: car that were not to be touched and they were. 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: They failed to conspection will Power and Joseph Nugarten had 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: to start the eighty five hundred the back of the field. 51 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: And then you were one of three who were relieved 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: of your duties from the team itself, and then the 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: word coming that you will be returning as the strategist. 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: What was just kind of your emotion through all of 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: that and maybe even the trying nature of it and 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: things you've learned. 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Yes, thanks for bringing all that bats up again, but no, 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I mean, obviously, I've 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: been with that team since since really nineteen ninety nine, 60 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: and you know I have been through lot ups and downs. 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: You know, as a kid, it was it was the 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: team that I admired, the one I always wanted to 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: be with, you know, Roger he'd always been one of 64 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: my heroes or whatever out and you know, through all that, 65 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: first of all, I did nothing wrong. I was simply 66 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: a victim of certain circumstances. And you know, those that 67 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: truly know me, they don't question anything relative to my integrity, 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: and really that's that's all it really matters at the end. 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: And you know, the support I've had through that, through 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: those people, just reminded me of all that, you know, 71 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 2: helped a lot, because obviously I put a lot into 72 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: all that that's really in the nutshell, you know, and 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: probably all I really had to say about the whole 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: thing today and to have the opportunity to really come 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: back and work with people that I really enjoy working with, 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: you know, as I reflected on it, you know, after 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: all that went down, you know, as you can imagine, 78 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: I had quite a few opportunities to do different things, 79 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of them in the in the 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: d car paddock, and you know, the disculity for me. 81 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: I put so much into the whole Team Tinsky situation, 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: and you know, I understand accountability, you know, I get 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: how that works, especially in the corporate world. And if 84 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: there's a corporate race team out there, it's the one 85 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: I've worked for even before Roger bought the you know, 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: the Speedway and Indy car and all the rest of it. 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: And you know that some of the voice has just 88 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: got louder when all that happens. And you know, he 89 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: was in a situation there where, yeah, he had to 90 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: make some decisions or whatever else. And you know, for myself, 91 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: I have to live with those decisions, whether I agreed 92 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: with them or didn't agree with them, or agreed with 93 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: how the whole process went, you know, with the various parties. 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: You know, what am I going to do? You know, 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: you just have to you just have to kind of 96 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: move on. You know. The hardest thing for me is, 97 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, when people question your integrity because it's kind 98 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: of the easy thing to do when you've you know, 99 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: been part of, you know, so much success over the years. 100 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: I get all that, you know, and I don't I 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: don't blame people for you know, believing what they read sometimes, 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: but you know, in this day and age, you know, 103 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: I I've always been really careful to judge, you know, 104 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: until I know somebody personally or whatever else. But you know, 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: I had some great conversations with people that I didn't 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: even know in Saint Pete that I didn't expect, and uh, 107 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: all that's pretty helpful when you go through something like that. 108 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: You know, for me, it's always been it's been my passion, 109 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: you know, motorsports. Uh, you know, I've been fortunate enough 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: to experience as much and more success than I ever imagined. 111 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: And uh, the hard thing for me and all that 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: was really understanding what I wanted to do, you know, 113 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: because you're in a situation where you know you're not 114 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: going to live forever, and you know, I started kind 115 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: of thinking about the various criteria that I wanted personally, 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, for me, I got a great family, 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: I've you know, got great friends and and uh, yeah, 118 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: I had a really really rewarding career at that point, 119 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: and I didn't want to I didn't want to repeat 120 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: my steps in terms of of you know, running a 121 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: race team again, or starting one from scratch, or trying 122 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: to bring one from you know, midpath to the front 123 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: or whatever, because you know, I had already stepped aside 124 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: or tried to step aside. You know, at the end 125 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, just really to live life a 126 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: bit and kind of experienced some things that I hadn't 127 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: done in thirty or forty years and reconnect with friends 128 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: and family in some ways or whatever else. And you know, 129 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: I did a lot of that last year, and I 130 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: did obviously a lot of reflect you know, what I 131 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: wanted to do, and I didn't want to do the 132 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: same things again, but I still I missed the competition 133 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: side of it. And you know, around the holidays, I 134 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: thought to myself, and I need to either just get 135 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: out of motorsports all together and forget about and just 136 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: say I had a good ride or a great ride, 137 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: or I need to stay relevant somehow and then let 138 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: it come to me and see what happens. And you know, 139 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: I'd had different people approach me to, hey, how about 140 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: just go on the weekends. Then you got flexibility to 141 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: you know, do whatever else you want to do in life, 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: come on the weekends, you know, help us out, or 143 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: you know, come to a may only deal with you know, 144 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: drivers that can win the race and that type of thing. 145 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: And and you know, if you ask me back in 146 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: August if I wanted to do that, that didn't really 147 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: hit home for me because I'd kind of been done that. 148 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: And then, uh, you know, around the holidays, I decided, 149 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 2: you know what, this thing passes you by real quick. 150 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: If you don't get involved. So I decided, you know, 151 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: going to racing on the weekend still allows me to 152 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: be involved in a lot of other things and have 153 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: a flexibility do what I want to do. And uh, 154 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: I made the decision to to go pursue that. And 155 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: I had my mind made up where I was going 156 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: to go and what I was going to do. And uh, 157 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: you know, I thought to myself, Man, I I think 158 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: so much of the people that I worked with over there, 159 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: guys like Jonathan do Good, you know, Travis Law and 160 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Matt Johnson, you know, the drivers, Uh, the engineers there, 161 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: just the whole group there. You know, some of these guys, 162 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: you know we refer to them, was myram John boos log. Uh, 163 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: They've been there so long, I've been through so much 164 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: with them. I don't want them to read about what 165 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to go do for somebody else in the 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: Indy Car paddock without at least letting them know that 167 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: that's what I'm going to do. So yeah, I reached 168 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: out to Jonathan Dogood, who's you know, running the team now, 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: and I'd hired him out of college actually back in 170 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: the Alms days. I think it was like two thousand 171 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: and five and uh I sent him an email, and 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: I hadn't talked to Rogers since August, or hadn't communicated 173 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: with him even since August, and uh I copied him 174 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: on my email to the JD and just said, Hey, 175 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: just want you guys to be aware, I'm going to 176 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to go pursue something in the Paddock on 177 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: the weekends. I didn't want you to read about it. 178 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: I assume you guys got your bases covered. If you don't, 179 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm open to a conversation. You know, I still admire 180 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 2: the people that you have and the group that you have, 181 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: and you know, for me, I helped obviously put together 182 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: you know a lot of those people. And anyway, yeah, 183 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: that Eddy reached out pretty much immediately and said, hey, 184 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: when we said down, have a conversation about it. Your 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: timing is good. We're trying to figure out how to 186 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: how to put our group together, you know, with the 187 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: most depth that we can have. And Roger reached out 188 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: within the hour and said, you know, basically, hey, there's 189 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: something you really want to do. It would be a 190 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: win win for us. So that's how it all went down. 191 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Did you feel the fact that you were able tim 192 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: to go back to the same team. Did you feel 193 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: like that was kind of an exoneration. 194 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, when I when I mentioned to my 195 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: wife that I was going to, you know, put together 196 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: this note to those guys, she was she was kind 197 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 2: of perplexed, you know, not that I mean she she 198 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: she loves those people as well, and she's just like, really, 199 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: I said, yeah, because regardless of the answer, regardless of 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: what happens, it's going to answer a few questions for me, 201 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: independent on what the reply is or if there's not 202 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: one at all. And you know, if it happened to 203 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: all work out, it would probably send a few messages 204 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: without me having to say anything or Roger having to 205 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: say anything. And so that was my mindset. So you know, yeah, 206 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: for sure, I think you know, for me, having gone 207 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: through all that over the years and had so much 208 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: success with so many people in that group, you know, 209 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: for it to kind of all end, and you know, 210 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: what I look at is more of a political mess 211 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: and anything else. I you know, I like, hey, there's 212 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: a chance to write a different chapter in there and 213 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: you know, have a different ending to that that whole story. 214 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: I'd be all for it. So here we are. 215 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: Well, Scott McLaughlin was thrilled about it. I mean, there's 216 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Tim Sindrick, my guest from Penske. 217 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Of course, he was the race strategist for Scott McLaughlin 218 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: in the second yesterday after landing on poll and McLachlin 219 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: was open about the fact of, you know, the OPTIMISMY 220 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: had to work with you again in the chemistry you 221 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: guys have for you personally though, Tim, were you nervous 222 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: going into the weekend or just curious as to how 223 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: you would be received or how all of it would 224 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: go down? 225 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: Uh? You kind of anxious, you know. I guess you know, 226 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: for me, I'm at peace with myself. Like I said, I, uh, 227 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: there's nothing that I did wrong. I mean, when you're 228 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: when it's the top of the total pole, you know, 229 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: the head hits the ground hardest, you know, So you 230 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: know I understood, I understood all those different things and 231 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: and kind of the side of it I liked, for 232 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: as what I said before, for you know, the people 233 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: around me and the people that really know me, that 234 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: that's what has always mattered the most to me. And uh, 235 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: you know that that proved to be really strong. So 236 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: my I guess I was a bit more nervous about 237 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: how rusty I was going to be. I mean, I 238 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: honestly I didn't follow a lot of the races and detail. 239 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: You know, I'd watch the starter, i'd watch the end 240 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: and do my thing. But I wasn't, you know, totally 241 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: engaged last year after all that went down. So there's 242 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: been a lot of rules to change. People change, roles change, 243 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: and you know, I certainly wanted to respect you know, 244 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: the management group that's in place there within within Penske 245 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: and you know JD and those guys know that I'm 246 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: not looking for the job. I'm not trying to promote myself. 247 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: I just want to do a good job within that environment. 248 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: And for me, you know, it's really been the past 249 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, later ten years, you know my I 250 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: guess what I get out of of really being part 251 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 2: of all that is watching others have success that haven't 252 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: seen the success that I've been able to experience. And 253 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, Scott's somebody that you know, I met him 254 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: way back and I can't remember if it's fourteen or fifteen, 255 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, through Marcus Ambrose and you know, having the 256 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: opportunity to kind of go full circle with him from 257 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: the times we talked about going supercars racing and him 258 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: coming over to our team there to you know, the 259 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 2: dinners we had over there talking about, you know, how 260 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: he could go racing in America to then being on 261 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: his box in his ear. Yeah, it's it's a great 262 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: opportunity and something that I really want to help him 263 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: succeed in whatever way I can. Tim. I know that 264 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: you know that was more for me what I was after. 265 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: I know one of the things that you did because 266 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I reached out to you, you know, just before the 267 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: season began. Going to the Olympics had to have been awesome. 268 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean just going and seeing it and I'm curious. 269 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you were there from a fan standpoint, but 270 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, your son's a racer. You've been around it forever, 271 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: right is it? How cool is it? I guess? Or 272 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: what can you learn from watching athletes at the top 273 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: of their craft in a sport other than the one 274 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: that you are caught in the minutia in from day 275 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: to day. 276 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: No, it's it's incredible. You know. Obviously, the patriotism the 277 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: second to none. We had a chance to take our 278 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: our kids when they were teenagers, young teenagers to the 279 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: London Olympics in twenty twelve. The Summer Olympics actually stayed 280 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: in Zach Brown Flat, you know, downtown London, went to 281 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: the Olympics there and they never forgot that experience, and 282 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: you know, us going to the Winter Olympics, they actually 283 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: organized it all and that was that was what they presented. 284 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: You know, Megan and I for Christmas was basically an 285 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: organized you know, trip to the Olympics for seven days 286 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: or what have you. And you know, I'll give you 287 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: an example. We went to the short track speed skating 288 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: finals and the only tickets that were available at that time, 289 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: because it wasn't one of the events that the kids 290 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: had picked out, but we happen to have a window 291 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: where we could go, and it was it was convenient, 292 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: and you know, I said my wife, I'm like, we 293 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: can go sight seeing or you know, we're here for 294 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: the Olympics. Let's go to the Olympics. And the only 295 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: seats that were available were the best seats. And you know, 296 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: you got swallowed pretty hard sometimes and you're just like, hey, 297 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: that's why we're here. Let's just do it. And we 298 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: had front row seats to the speed skating finals and 299 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: the cool thing about it. Okay, the races and all 300 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: that are really good, and you're up clothes, but where 301 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: our seats were and you couldn't pick your seats? They 302 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: just tell you it's in a section. But the athletes 303 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: would come out of the locker room and actually put 304 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: their skates on and do their ritual and all that, 305 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: and these chairs literally right below us as you leaned 306 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: over the rail and you watch these Olympic athletes getting 307 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: ready to go basically determine their fate and all the 308 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: things that they had worked for. And it was just 309 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: so cool and so rewarding to see all that firsthand 310 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: in terms of the preparation and then basically the release 311 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: they had after it was over. 312 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: So did you want to get in their ear and 313 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: tell them when they had to come in and pit 314 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. 315 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: You now, man, you're there. You're nervous for the guys 316 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: they have to go reset up the apex tucks during 317 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: the live event. You know, you're like, you realize if 318 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: they drop one of those or if they follow, they're 319 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: going to script the whole race. But no, you just 320 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 2: get a whole different perspective of it all. And yeah, 321 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: you just it's hard to explain it all until you 322 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: actually see it an experience at firsthand. 323 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: Well, Tim, I'll tell you what, man, on a personal level, 324 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, I told you this at the time when 325 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: I saw the news you were back. You're always accommodating 326 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: on Pitt Road. And I've got a great deal of 327 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: respect for the work that you've done and the accomplishments 328 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: you've had, and so for you to get the chance 329 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: to come back and just kind of put that all 330 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: in the past, my apologies for bringing it up, but 331 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: it's part of the story right as to you back, 332 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: So you know, I certainly appreciate it and appreciate the 333 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: candor today and Phoenix up next, and then after that 334 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: it is a new track Arlington going right around where 335 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys play, so plenty of racing between now 336 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: and May to get to so I appreciate you squeezing 337 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: a little time for us right now. 338 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: Hey, I just want to know who's going to be 339 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: our quarterback. 340 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think it's probably going to 341 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: be Daniel Jones, but I don't know. Do you have 342 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: any eligibility left after your Hall of Fame basketball career 343 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: at Rose Holmand no, man, I'm just a fan, but 344 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Daniel Jones. But we'll 345 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: see because big day tomorrow with the franchise tag and 346 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce hanging in there as well, so we'll see 347 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: if they can get a deal done. He's a smart cookie, though. 348 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: I think he's going to get some dollars out of him. 349 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: Good deal, good deal. Hope it all works out. 350 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Tim, all right, thanks Tim Sendrick joining 351 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: us on the program.