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Speaker 1: day for Jake Querry sports fandom. It's a great day

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Speaker 1: all the way around. It's beautiful outside now. Sean Ash

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Speaker 1: But it was gorgeous this morning. I've got right here.

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Speaker 1: You can see it, Eddie. You know what I need

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Speaker 1: to pull around our signage? There?

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Speaker 2: Got my Java House Columbian here. I got to say,

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Speaker 2: is that the Columbian? That is that a little bit

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Speaker 1: Do you really? I was asking you, Oh yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: going with to Columbian today. Obviously the Wrangler's fabulous as

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Speaker 1: well from Java House. And that's because and I'm drinking

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Speaker 1: the Java House Columbian coffee today with the Peel and

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Speaker 1: port pod because I was up late last night. It

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Speaker 1: goes without saying it's a sleep deprivation Tuesday, literally and figuratively,

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Speaker 1: the Jake Querry sports fandom on why life is Good, Baby,

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Speaker 1: It's more than just a T shirt company that you

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Speaker 1: see around Hilton Head life is good. For example, I

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Speaker 1: do a weekly NFL Pick Them each and every week

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Speaker 1: with my three buddies, Brian, Brad and Shawn. This week

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Speaker 1: I missed. It's a confidence pool. You rate each game

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Speaker 1: on how many points per game. I had three points

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Speaker 1: make me realize, Man, what would happen if I'd have

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Speaker 1: won a fourteen game parlay but swept the week? Because

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Speaker 1: some games and immediately go I got a pretty good

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Speaker 1: feeling about this team or that team. This was a

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Speaker 1: Pizza Fantasy Football League for a Query and Company. My

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Speaker 1: team's decimated, just decimated. My good players are hurt and

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison is the president of the company here at

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Speaker 1: Indiana beat the Eastern Conference Finals? New York? That's right, Tyres.

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Speaker 2: Now he's twenty three years old, so he's entering that

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Speaker 1: What's at sixth overall? Got that wrong? Scott Agne's going

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Speaker 1: a lot about this as a matter of fact at

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Speaker 1: When you have a guy in your franchise history that

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Speaker 1: that over the course of the year. Talking about Cam Jones,

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00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: the rookie that was involved in that incident yesterday that admittedly,

432
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: and I'm listen, I'm not here to carry the water

433
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: of professional athletes. Things like that. I mean, I'd like

434
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: to think that I'm pretty down in the middle of stuff.

435
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: That is one situation. It would appear, and you keep

436
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: your fingers crossed on this that Rick Carlisle was correct there,

437
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: and it makes for a pretty saucy headline, understandably so.

438
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: But I think what it comes down to is, I

439
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: don't know this, but by all account it seems as

440
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: though cam Jones was on his way to practice. He

441
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: was running a little behind, no excuses there, but he

442
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: was speeding on sixty five and it was a construction

443
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: zone I believe, which is, you know, pretty egregious. But

444
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: in terms of the fleeing, I think it was probably

445
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: more that he was looking for a place to be

446
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: able to pull over. I'll tell you this much. If

447
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: you got I'm not in any way, shape or form

448
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: saying that you need to flee from police. I'm not

449
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: saying that. On a side note, what in the world

450
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: is going on on? What? I mean, you can say

451
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: this about a lot of places, but has anybody here

452
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: tried to drive Keystone southbound between seventy fifth and sixty

453
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: fifth Street recently? What in the absolute flipping hack is

454
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: going on? I mean, it's like, right, turn left. It's like, literally,

455
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: when you drive Keystone right now southbound between seventy fifth

456
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: and sixty fifth, you're playing car Tetris.

457
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: That's how I feel driving downtown too. Jacob totally Illinois

458
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: blocked off. I mean they blocked off Market Street.

459
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: But the difference with that downtown at least everything's so

460
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: food bar are you just know it? You ain't going

461
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: anywhere when when you go when you drive down Keystone,

462
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: you're playing car Tetris because you're sitting there and you

463
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: can actually hear dun do do doo do doom de

464
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: de de de de doo do doo doo do do

465
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: and the whole time because you're driving and you turn

466
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: your car sideways and then and then you're back to square,

467
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: and then you're to the right side and then and

468
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: before you know it, you're you literally go two blocks

469
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: completely going sideways. What in the world is going on? Yes,

470
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: this is what it sounds like the whole time. He

471
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: I remember in college, true story, I had a guy

472
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: in college I knew that had a game boy with Tetris,

473
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: and he was like super stoked because he was on

474
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: this marathon hour like six and a half hours into it.

475
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: Where he was closing in on like one million points

476
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: on Tetris and the battery was dying and he was

477
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: like trying to figure out how he could change the battery.

478
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: It was like George Castanza with the Frogger. The battery

479
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: ended up dying on so Aaron Nesmith is extended as

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00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: an Indiana pacer. Rick Carlisle talked about it this morning,

481
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: and I think one of the things that is fascinating

482
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: with this sometimes in life things just have to work

483
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: your way. Sometimes you just get those days where you're like, man,

484
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: everything fell my way. I got every green light. I

485
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: pulled in to work, and there was the park there

486
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: was one parking spot that was in the front row.

487
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: The guy's pulling out right when I pulled in the

488
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: elevator unlike the one that I got stuck in today

489
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes, and our building, the elevator was working.

490
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: It like was right there waiting for me. Sometimes things

491
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: just go your way.

492
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: You know what they say, Jake, if you're a good person,

493
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: getting things will happen to you. Like you're you've been

494
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: a good person and that's why you're working with me

495
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: now and send of Mark Dighton.

496
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I like that Mark, but I don't

497
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: know if you know this or not. That guy gets

498
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: fifty four weeks a year of vacation. It's incredible, really Yeah.

499
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the Pacers and last year

500
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: and the the era that we're in with Pacers basketball,

501
00:28:55,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: sometimes you need a little luck, right Paul McCartney saying it.

502
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: The Pacers, I think believe it because when it came

503
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: to acquiring Aaron Niemith, things just began to work out.

504
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: And I'll explain and elaborate in a second, but first

505
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: here is Rick Carlisle this morning talking about Aaron NEI

506
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: Smith and the decision and the process of now signing

507
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: him to a contract extension.

508
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 4: Well, it's been great to see and be a part of.

509
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: I think the bottom line is he's a proven starter

510
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: for us, you know, the opportunity to extend a guy

511
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: a couple of years. So now I think he's under

512
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: contract for four years, including this year that we're headed into.

513
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: So it's great news for the organization. He's very happy

514
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: about it. There's been a lot of growth. You know,

515
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: here's a kid that barely got in the games when

516
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: he was with the Celtics, and a lot of that

517
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: had to do with the guys that were ahead of him.

518
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: A lot of them were great players, et cetera. This

519
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 4: has been an amazing opportunity for him and he's taken

520
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: advantage of it and he's really helped us.

521
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Now. One of the things that Carlisle talked about was

522
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: this the Pacers were in a situation where they had

523
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brogden. Good player. Malcolm Brogden was a really good

524
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: player and was one that I think that they had

525
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: very high hopes for when they acquired him.

526
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: Congrats to them on retirement, by the way.

527
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, he just and it's interesting when you talk

528
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: about his retirement. Brogden was a guy is a guy.

529
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still living. Was a very cerebral player,

530
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: and you know, he came from kind of an education

531
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: based background in terms of his parents the influence. Very

532
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: intellectual guy. Not to say other players aren't, but he

533
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: was very business minded. And when Malcolm Brogden was a Pacer,

534
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: and I thought he was a really good player, and

535
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: he did good things for them, and it was kind

536
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: of a coup when they had gotten him out of Milwaukee.

537
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: But when Malcolm Brogden came to Indiana, the one thing.

538
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: And there's kind of no way to really know how

539
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: these things are going to work out. But one thing

540
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: about Malcolm Brogden that you can say is he's he

541
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Basketball was always for him a business, and part of

542
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: that business was protecting himself and his body and making

543
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: sure that he was always extending his playing time in

544
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: his career, which ultimately ended up being ironic because the

545
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: chronic injuries and some of that mistime probably are how

546
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: he started to fall out of favor with some teams

547
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: and then ultimately announced his retirement just under a week ago. Okay,

548
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: and he that's after having signed with New York back

549
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: in September. But Brogden, at any rate, they trade him,

550
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: the Pacers do, and they knew they were starting over.

551
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: They literally knew, like we're just starting from scratch here.

552
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: And when they traded him the Pacers, they traded him

553
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: to Boston for basically like the I'm not gonna say

554
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: the junk drawer of the roster, but just kind of

555
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: this hodge hodgepodge. I thought Daniel Tye was gonna be

556
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: the enforcer they needed. I really did. I remember thinking

557
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: when they made that trade, and you know, it was

558
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: Malik Fitz and Juwan Morgan and Nick Stauskas and Daniel Tyson,

559
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Aaron nee Smith and Nie Smith was probably the prize

560
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: name in there because he had been a lottery pick

561
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: in the same year as Romeo Langford. And you couldn't

562
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: hold it against the guy that he was unable to

563
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: get on the floor on a floor that had Jason

564
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Tatum and Jalen Brown and the other weapons that Boston had.

565
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: But at any rate, it was like, Yeah, this kid

566
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: from Vanderbilt and like he was a pretty good shooter

567
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: in college. That's about all we knew about him, and

568
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: so they get him. And what I'm getting at is

569
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: sometimes in life you just don't know how things are

570
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: going to work out, and sometimes you just kind of

571
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: get lucky. And if you look at teams that have

572
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: great success, and no matter the sport, the Colts right now,

573
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: the Colts are six and one and are humming along

574
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: and playing historic level of offensive football because Daniel Jones

575
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: is doing every single thing that they need done. And

576
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: every time that Shane stiken pushes a button, Daniel Jones

577
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: is the elevator with the doors already open. And every

578
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: time Shane Stikeen is looking for a parking spot. Daniel

579
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Jones is the guy that just happens to be leaving,

580
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: and now that spot is immediately open. Everything that Shane

581
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: Steiken has needed to have done, Daniel Jones has delivered.

582
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know that they anticipated that. But you

583
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: need a little of that luck. You need a little

584
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: luck to have Tyler Warren fall into your lap during

585
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: the draft and have the Chicago Bears decide they'd rather

586
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: have a blocking tight end than a receiving tight end

587
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: and not doing enough tape research to realize that Tyler

588
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: Warren is both a blocking and receiving tight end. You

589
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: need a little luck that comes that way and it

590
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: springs everything free, right, And so the Pacers with Aaron

591
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: Nie Smith, I think that's exactly what happened. Do I

592
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: think that they knew he was a good player, Yes?

593
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: Do I think they knew through exhaustive research in scouting

594
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: that he is a good person, Probably, But I don't

595
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: think that they knew he was going to be this

596
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: kind of a player. And he literally is the twenty

597
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: dollars bill that you find in your jeens when you're

598
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: doing your laundry, Like it's great right When Nie Smith

599
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: was traded for in that trade in July of twenty two.

600
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: Rick Carlyle happened to be in South Carolina because he

601
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: spends a lot of time down I think for Carlisle.

602
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Hilton had or Kiowa or

603
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: what island it is, but he spends a lot of

604
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: time in South Carolina. And Aaron Niemith's hometown is Charleston.

605
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: And Rick Carlyle called Aaron NEI. Smith to welcome him

606
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: and congratulate him in whatever else, and they're right there

607
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: in the same area and they immediately start talking, and

608
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Nie Smith essentially had this mentality of I'm ready to

609
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: get to work now, not tomorrow, not next week now, Okay,

610
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: you know it's now, Eddie closed your ears because spoiler

611
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: alert here, it's like the warden in Shawshank, not after breakfast,

612
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: not tomorrow now. That's when Aaron Neismith was ready to

613
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: get to work. And he is a guy that you

614
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: know he has in medical school. There's just this drive

615
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: about him. I think that is inherent and he is

616
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: an important piece of what they want to do going

617
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: forward because I think that that professionalism, that maturity, that drive,

618
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: and that maturity is what you want, and I think

619
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: it rubs all I do. I think it has impact

620
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: and effect on the rest of the roster. I'm still

621
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: glowing from last night, Eddie. Can you tell that I

622
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: am just swept up in my Blue Jay fandom?

623
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: You wear the hat today and everything.

624
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: I have the other hat in my car. I got

625
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: the ninety three World Series hat. You've seen it, right.

626
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: I believe you said the kids would say it's sick?

627
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: Right? Did I say that?

628
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: You know what? I think? I wore it last week

629
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: while you were gone, and I did buy you a hat.

630
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: By the way, have you worn your hat yet?

631
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: I did wear it down in Florida yet?

632
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Did you really? Yeah? How to feel?

633
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: How to fit perfect?

634
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: People have been complaining about that hat. They've been saying

635
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: that the monogram of the new Indian logo for the

636
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Indians is too convoluted. I think actually it's like

637
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: that magic. IY think they just can't see it. Once

638
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: they see it, they can't unsee it. Right, There's like

639
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: three different eyes in it, Are there really? Yeah? Indianapolis

640
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: Indians Indiana? Is that it?

641
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

642
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Are you saying there are three subtle eyes?

643
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

644
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: I never knew that the old Indianapolis Indians logo, the

645
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: one that looks I always thought it looked like an arrowhead.

646
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I was fifty three years old and like a week

647
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: ago before I realized that that is two capital letter

648
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: eyes merging in on one another for Indianapolis Indians. Brilliant, brilliant.

649
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: Then we had Randy Lewandowski on and he said, you

650
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 1: know what, it was so brilliant A lot of people

651
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: didn't realize it. Steven Hold are going to join us

652
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: one o'clock. There is a big question mark for the Colts,

653
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: a big one, and it has nothing to do with

654
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: their pass rush. I'll tell you what it is. Next,

655
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: allow me to ask you this question, Eddie Garrison.

656
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll allow.

657
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: Is it possible for you to hear this song from

658
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Joon Jet without thinking about the fact that she was

659
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: rumored to have been romantically linked to Carmen Electra. That's

660
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: not really the question I was going to ask you,

661
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: but it comes up every time I hear this song,

662
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: and I also think of the nineteen eighty roller skating

663
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: party at USA Skate East, where I believe I asked

664
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: Shield DeMars to moonlight to the song I love rock

665
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: and roll by Jone Jet. Now, if that ain't romantic,

666
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: you tell me what is.

667
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: Carmen Electra follows out Mark Dyton, by the way, on Twitter.

668
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: I saw that very impressive, is it not?

669
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

670
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: And you know when I saw that Carmen Electra is

671
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: following Mark Dyton on the expost Twitter, I thought maybe

672
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: it was because, like, for example, who's the stand up

673
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: comic that takes his shirt off everywhere? Excuse me, who's

674
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the stand up comic heavier set fellow that's always shirtless?

675
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: Bert Brett, Bert, It's either Bert or Brett. It's Bert, right,

676
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: somebody helped me out here. I think he's really funny.

677
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like, at that's it. He follows me on Twitter, right,

678
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: and so he follows me on Twitter, and I think, well,

679
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: that's cool. And then you look at it, Well he's

680
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: following like three hundred and sixty thousand accounts, right, so

681
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: you realize it's some computer. But Carmen Electra I thought

682
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: maybe that was the case, and then I saw it.

683
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Carmen Electra is following literally like six people on Twitter.

684
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: She follows Dennis Rodman, Jon Jet and Mark Dyton, and

685
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: then like three people she went to high school with.

686
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: It's the weirdest thing ever. It's very strange. But my

687
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: question for you is this. We were just discussing in

688
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: the break, and it's not often that you and I

689
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: talk in break, but in this particular time, I'm sleep deprived,

690
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: and so you decided to take advantage of my lack

691
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: of neurological function, especially sports and correct that is actually correct.

692
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: And we were discussing just I remember years ago. Maybe

693
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: it's time to bring back this old little Jim for

694
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: the question of the cults that I have. Many moons ago,

695
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: the Colts and Pacers were not unlike the situation that

696
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: we are right now.

697
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: So would you said that is back in your day, Jake,

698
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: You're back, that's right.

699
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: I walked uphill to work five miles on the snow

700
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: both ways, got to Channel six and day First and

701
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: I were working together, and I said, you know, the

702
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: Colts are the best team in the NFL by a

703
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: long shot. Peyton mannings in his prime and nobody's discussing

704
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: it right now, but the Pacers are like on their

705
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: way to win sixty games. So I did a lighthearted,

706
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: fun story where I took every player on the Pacers

707
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: roster and said who their cult equivalent was. This is

708
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: the one that got me in trouble because at the

709
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: end of the story true story, I said to Reggie Miller,

710
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: are you the Mike vander Jet of the Pacers, because

711
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: you're really cocky you win games in the end by

712
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: hitting something worth three points. And Reggie Miller laughed and

713
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: said no, because I don't want to be called an idiot,

714
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: kicker liquor up kicker. And and then I in the

715
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: story by saying perhaps, but hopefully vander Jet will always

716
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: be as clutch as Reggie or something along those lines.

717
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: And the next day Bill Pullian called WRTV Channel six

718
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: and said, if I did not write a handwritten letter

719
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: of apology to the franchise for disrespecting them and their kicker,

720
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: that they would pull my credential. And I'm like, I

721
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: didn't say it. I quoted Reggie Miller, who was quoting

722
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: my fander Jet, and in the end, all is well,

723
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: that ends well, But I digress. So if you were

724
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: to look at members of the Pacers right now, we

725
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: were just discussing whether or not, for example, like who

726
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: is Benedict matherin Okay, I think in actuality the one

727
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: analogy would be, I will ask it to you in

728
00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: these terms, Eddie, who is the cold Aaron Nesmith? And

729
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: I know that I said on the field it's Tyler Warren.

730
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about just in terms of the representation,

731
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: the the molding and meshing, the contribution level there is.

732
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: And I know that I said Tyler Warren in the

733
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: fact that he is a jack of all trades is

734
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: what Aaron Nismith reminds me of. But situationally, there's a

735
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: guy for the Colts that I think is similar to

736
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: what Aaron Nesmith.

737
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: Has just gone through. Mike Clipman Jr.

738
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: Close. I think it's Alec Pierce because so Pittman Junior

739
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: would be kind of like Mathern and the fact that

740
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: you know he's very talented, he gets because of his position.

741
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: Initially you assumed that he was a selfish guy. You

742
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: now realize he's a very selfless guy. I'm talking about Pittman.

743
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: But Pierce I think is Nie Smith. Because could Daniel

744
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: Jones also.

745
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: Be Aaron E. Smith.

746
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones is probably Halliburton. He's the guy that,

747
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: like you got him wanting to see whether or not

748
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: you could rejumpstart what you saw as a foundation early

749
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: in his career in the first stop, and then it

750
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: all comes together and you're like, whoa, this is the centerpiece.

751
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: But Alec peers to me, is like Nie Smith in

752
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: this fact. Pierce is a guy that early in his

753
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: career you started to wonder whether or not he was

754
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: ever going to be able to get footing in blossom.

755
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: In Nie Smith's case, it's come in stop number two,

756
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: not stop number one. But once he showed that he

757
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: has grown, So I'm talking situationally, not x's and o's wise.

758
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: Once you saw that Nie Smith in fact had developed

759
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: before your very eyes, then came the challenge of how

760
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: you were going to resign him and make sure that

761
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: you were keeping him even though you already had him

762
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: essentially on value. And I think Alec Pierce is at

763
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: that situation and is approaching that fork right now, because

764
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: he was a young player that we almost cast off

765
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: and forgot about, and I think many of us thought, maybe,

766
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: in fact, you move on from it. And then he

767
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: started really blossoming and growing and you realize that once

768
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: he was around the right people around him, WHOA, this

769
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: guy's capable of doing some things on his own, even

770
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: above and beyond what we thought his ceiling was. And

771
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: so therefore he becomes a positional priority of maintaining and

772
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: sustaining on your roster. And therefore the one problem the

773
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 1: Colts may have right now, but I think that there

774
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: could be solution to it, is I think they know

775
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: they have to extend Alec Pierce. He is becoming a

776
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: critical part of their offense and an integral part. Yes,

777
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: when Daniel Jones drops back, his first priority is probably

778
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: to find Tyler Warren. His second priority is probably to

779
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: find Michael Pittman Jr. Or vice versa. But the defense

780
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: knows you can't let go of Alec Pierce, Tyrese Haliburton.

781
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: When he's coming up the floor, his first priority is

782
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: probably to find where Pascal Siakam is. His second may

783
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: be to fined where Nim Harder Mathern is. But when

784
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: all else breaks down, he knows he can find aaron

785
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: Nie Smith. Now Nie Smith in terms of the versatility

786
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: of what he can do. Is why he said Tyler Warren,

787
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: because Warren can play anywhere. But you get my point,

788
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: Pierce is growing into a very integral part offensively of

789
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: what they do, and what they rely on, and so

790
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: therefore he is creating a situation where his play has

791
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: created a situation where the culture have to address this.

792
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: And financially speaking, you do begin to wonder when you

793
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: look at some of the pieces they have. Yeah, they

794
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: got Warren on a rookie deal and that's wonderful. And

795
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: they just extended Pittman, and they have Buckner making a

796
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: lot of money and Quentin Nelson making a lot of money.

797
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: And now you know that Daniel Jones, you're going to

798
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: get out from underneath the contract, even though it's a

799
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: rookie deal. You're not going to have to extend Anthony

800
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Richardson probably, and Jones is the guy that you do

801
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: that too, assuming knock on wood, that he stays healthy.

802
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: I think we have seen enough body of work now

803
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: to say this is not a fluke. Daniel Jones is

804
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: the guy. So you've got he's going to make a

805
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: ton of money, and you've got to figure out where

806
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: to get that money to keep Pierce in the fold.

807
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: I think they restructure some guys, whether it be Pittman,

808
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: whether it be Nelson, you know Buckner for that. I

809
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: think there are guys that are going to come and say, Okay,

810
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: you can restructure me here, restructure me there, or whatever else.

811
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: And the reason that colts offense is as good as

812
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: it is is because it is unbelievably balanced. Unbelievably balanced.

813
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder joins us. We'll talk about that and more

814
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: next Stephen Holder are gonna join us just a couple

815
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: of minutes. He's wrapping up some things out of the complex.

816
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: In the meantime, because it's a sleep deprivation Tuesday, we're

817
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: just gonna spin it right back to the late eighties

818
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: with some wall of voodoo. Baby. Eddie and I are

819
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: just gonna sit here talking about eating barbecue iguana. This

820
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: song is so strong. I love, love, love Mexican radio. Now,

821
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: what made you think of that song?

822
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 2: Eddie?

823
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: I love it?

824
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: No idea, Jake, would.

825
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: You like that tune? Don't you? You know it bangs

826
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: as the kids say, right and that what they say.

827
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if they say it bangs anymore.

828
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: Before we get to Stephen Holder, I wanted to play

829
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: this just because it's the beauty and the magic of

830
00:47:53,280 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: radio radio is you know, I get it, I totally

831
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: understand it. We are rapidly moving in a direction where

832
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: all industries and all technologies are changing, but there is

833
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: something about live radio that is just different. And maybe

834
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm speaking as an anachronism because of my profession, but

835
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: I totally understand and respect. Last night I sent out

836
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: I sent yesterday that text asking for people to as

837
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: a roll call, and I had two hundred and sixty

838
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: six messages and last night while I was watching the

839
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: baseball game, and yes, some of it I just sent

840
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: like an emoji, but I made it a point to

841
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: respond to every single person.

842
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: We got just over forty on the text line yesterday,

843
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: so over three hundred people.

844
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I talked to a couple one. I talked

845
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: to one of our female listeners who was excited to

846
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: try out job a house, for example, which I greatly appreciate.

847
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: And whenever I talk to people, I always ask them

848
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: the same thing. And it's very important. Take twenty five

849
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: or twenty five percent off your first order, thank you, Eddie.

850
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: You know it might be for your second order too.

851
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're hip to that yet, but nonetheless,

852
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: radio has an ability that other mediums don't, and it's

853
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: the personal connection. It's the it's the feeling of when

854
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: you're talking on the radio or when people are listening

855
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: to me. And I had a long conversation with a

856
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: listener about this yesterday, about the importance of this show

857
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: or whatever it is that you listen to on live radio,

858
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: giving you the ability of human interactive communication and live

859
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: in the moment. It's so important to so many people,

860
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: and you don't take it lightly. I don't take it lightly.

861
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: It's the best thing about doing this job. Is it

862
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: fun to talk sports, sure, is it fun to go

863
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: to games, sure, But it's also fun to know. And

864
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: I take it with the utmost level of hopefully respect

865
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: to the craft of the understanding and the privilege of

866
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: being able to talk to and communicate with people, even

867
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: if it means later they just simply text me, Hey,

868
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: you said this or you mentioned this, and I wanted

869
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: to ask you about that. You don't get that in

870
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: anything else. And I hope that never goes away, and

871
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: I hope people understand that never goes away. And the

872
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: same is true with live sports play by play. When

873
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: you listen on the radio, it is still a marriage

874
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: between sport and radio because it is the human emotion

875
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: that exudes via the transmission of your radio, and you

876
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: just don't get it in other things. Sometimes TV, yes,

877
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: you can see the euphoria. But with radio, there is

878
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: a magic to your own imagination, your own digestion and

879
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: ingestion of the word as it's coming through, and then

880
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: feeling this immediate connection and bond with the enthusiasm of

881
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: the person on the other end. That's describing to you

882
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: what is euphoric or at times catastrophic. So last night,

883
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: for example, George Springer hits a three run and I

884
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: get it. Nobody in this town cares about the Blue

885
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Jays and the Mariners, perhaps, but they do care about

886
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: big time moments and sports in the ALCS. And so

887
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: last night, with the World Series on the line, the

888
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: Blue Jays are down to their final like nine outs,

889
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: they're down two runs. George Springer, who I believe has

890
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: ten now like lead changing home runs in postseason history,

891
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: comes to the plate and this is how it sounded

892
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: last night on the Blue Jays Radio Network. First real

893
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: scoring chance for the Blue Jays since the first inn

894
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: one tozer pitch swing in a f ball left field

895
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: in deep a Rose Arena turns a stringer dinger four

896
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: three blue days in the bottom of the seventh Okay,

897
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: so you can hear right there the color commentator, the

898
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: unbelievable nature of the guy wants to both cry. You said,

899
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: you think it's Dan Schulman.

900
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: Right, I think it is. He does their TV, and

901
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: I know he's pretty flexible.

902
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, and he wouldn't be doing their TV

903
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: because they're on you know, obviously network at that point. Right,

904
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: So you hear the the euphoria in his voice where

905
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: he wants to both cry and he wants to hug you,

906
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: and that comes through via the radio. You can feel

907
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: the emotion. Now you can also feel when things don't

908
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: go well for your team. You're not alone because you

909
00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: can feel the sorrow, the disappointment, the dismay, the con

910
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: when your team is the one that suddenly gives up,

911
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: as it happened to the Blue Jays in Seattle with

912
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: the home run that turns things Seattle. Also with the

913
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: Mariners radio network, you can hear the disappointment from that

914
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: home run. On the other side, here comes the pitch

915
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: from Bizardo.

916
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 5: Swung on that is hit high deep left field and

917
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 5: it is gone. George Springer, free run, home run, Blue

918
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 5: Jay's four three.

919
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: That's a guy right there. There's an art to letting

920
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: the crowd tell the story. But that's a guy right

921
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: there that isn't just letting the crowd tell the story

922
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: in that moment. He doesn't have a story to tell.

923
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: And I mean this as the utmost respect towards that call,

924
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: because sometimes you let no words say all the words.

925
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: You went twenty seven seconds between words there, Jake.

926
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: And the reality is this that silence and only hearing

927
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: the noise of the crowd and then coming back from

928
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: it and saying simply the facts of the matter. Radio

929
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: is what makes that work. It truly is. And yes,

930
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: you can go back the next day and listen to

931
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: it like we just did and still feel that emotion.

932
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: Those are two great calls from two different standpoints, and

933
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: it's the reason why are there people still like there

934
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: was a time in this country where people will tell

935
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: you if you lived in Brooklyn, New York, you didn't

936
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: even You could be out walking your block and you

937
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: knew everything going on in the Dodgers game because everybody

938
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: was sitting out on their front porch listening to it

939
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: on the radio, and so you could just hear it.

940
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: The same is true like in Saint Louis, of the

941
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: Cardinals for a long time. And I understand that perhaps

942
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: people now, you know, you gravitate towards television obviously, or

943
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: you're doing a million different things and you go back

944
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: and you just catch the highlights on off TV or whatever.

945
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: I get that, But in the moment, nothing captures it

946
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: better nothing. And tip of the cap to those two guys,

947
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: those two announcers and those two radio networks for what

948
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: was a pretty electric moment for sure. And like I said,

949
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: I Shannon was dead asleep on the couch and I

950
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: jumped up. She jumped ten feet off the couch because

951
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: I jumped up and yelled out. And It's been a

952
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: long time since I've done that, nonpacer related, probably in

953
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: sporting events in sport, but just jumped up and was like,

954
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: you know, now that was happening obviously, while Seattle was

955
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: playing an NFL home game for the Seahawks beating the

956
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and now the Colts. I mean, Eddie, the

957
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: Colts are so far out in front of their own

958
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: division here you don't want to get too high on

959
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: the horse. But for sure, we thought going into the

960
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: year that Houston was going to be one of the

961
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: teams that you know, I think we knew Jacksonville was

962
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: possibly going to be decent. But with Houston, I'm fascinated

963
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: by the Texans because you know, Nico Collins goes out

964
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: and can't finish the game yesterday. He's a big target

965
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: for CJ. Stroud.

966
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 2: Stroud, what's that concussion?

967
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: Correct? C J Stroud? Last night? Did you see his numbers?

968
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I watched that game.

969
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: He threw one hundred and six passes painfully. C J. Stroud.

970
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm thinking of other quarterbacks that would

971
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: fall into this category. We've seen it here and it's

972
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: why perhaps the Colts want to be still precautionary with

973
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. But the quarterbacking position is one that you

974
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: can you can start to fall believe that somebody is

975
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: the long term and eventually things kind of balance themselves

976
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: out once And yes, a big part of it is

977
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 1: protecting guys, and a big part of it is having

978
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: targets for them, and a bigger part of it is

979
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: having a running threat behind them. But you have to

980
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: assess all of those things for a quarterback in case

981
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: any of them go away. And you look at the

982
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: case of Stroud, for example, they can't run the football,

983
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: and he for a guy that was a ball placement specialist,

984
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: as he said during the combine, and he wasn't wrong

985
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: at the time. I didn't watch the totality of that game,

986
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: But that offense now suddenly feels completely inept. And the Texans,

987
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: who have been at times from a front office standpoint inept,

988
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: have never looked at more so. And on the other

989
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: side of that, Eddie, I go back to this, are

990
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: the Seahawks good?

991
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't think we know.

992
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we're almost a third of the way through here, right, well,

993
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: we're more than a third of the way through. Are

994
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: the Seahawks good?

995
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 6: Or what?

996
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: Five and two?

997
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't hear anything about them? Are they good?

998
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: Let me give you a couple of teams. I'm gonna

999
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: give you the team, and I want you to ding

1000
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: or buzz. Are they good?

1001
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: You're ready? I mean they beat the Steelers, Saints, Cardinals, Jags,

1002
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: and Texans lust to the forty nine Ers and the Buccaneers.

1003
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: Okay, but again I go back to Okay, let me

1004
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: give you a couple of teams in the National Football League.

1005
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: If they're good, you give me a ding. If they're bad,

1006
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: you give me a buzz.

1007
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: Can I play the Crickets if we don't know.

1008
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Yes, if we don't know, it's Crickets. You ready? The

1009
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, really.

1010
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean they're five and two, but their schedule has

1011
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: been incredibly weak. Okay, They've beat the Panthers, they beat

1012
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. They did beat the Bills when the Bills

1013
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: made a lot of mistakes, so they took care of

1014
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: their business. There, beat the Saints and the Titans. Like

1015
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: they've beat They've defeated the four worst teams in the NFL,

1016
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Really, the Cincinnati Bengals, you seem sure

1017
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: on a lot of well, I think that the addition wars.

1018
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: I more so lean towards that than the cricket.

1019
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: But the Dallas Cowboys, okay, the Chicago Bears. Disagree. I

1020
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: think the Bears are good. I think the Bears are

1021
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: good and only getting better. I think the Bears are

1022
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. They're they're figuring it out.

1023
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: I like their coach. I got you, inqu I think

1024
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: they're good. Okay, here's one for you.

1025
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: Huh.

1026
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: We're going to strongly disagree. As a matter of fact,

1027
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm ready to throw off my Blue Jays hat if

1028
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: it weren't for the fact that I'm eight weeks into

1029
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: my family. Okay, the Carolina Panthers. I think the Panthers

1030
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: are decent. I knew what what I think. The Carolina

1031
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: Panthers are decent. I think they're.

1032
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: Respectable, respectable and good. Two different things here, Jake.

1033
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean I realized, Look, they beat Atlanta, they beat Dallas,

1034
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: Miami and the Jets, you know, I mean, those are

1035
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: probably gimmes. They lost close to Arizona. We'll find out.

1036
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: They played Buffalo this week. I'll give you one more here. Okay,

1037
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: we already mentioned Seattle. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, I

1038
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: would agree they're good, but it is a This is

1039
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: the reason I brought up this whole exercise is because

1040
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: I just asked you like a third of the league,

1041
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: and for literally two thirds of that third, which is

1042
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: the upper coartile of upper corptile, and that's rare air

1043
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: that for that that I just asked you the vast

1044
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: majority of those teams, Eddie, you said you don't know yet.

1045
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.

1046
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: And the thing about the NFL, which is by design,

1047
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: it's by design. The World Series is set right now.

1048
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: It's got the Dodgers in the Blue Jays. The Dodgers

1049
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: had the biggest payroll in baseball. The Blue Jays are fifth. Yeah,

1050
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: the Dodgers of the number one television market, number two,

1051
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: number two television market in the country, and Toronto if

1052
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: it was in the United States would be like TV

1053
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: market six. Last year the World Series was won by

1054
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. Who is the last non Dodger team to

1055
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: win the World Series? I should know this, That is correct?

1056
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: You should That's Texas Rangers? Is that who it is?

1057
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: Could you get any more obscure than that? By the way,

1058
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: look at the matchups each year within the World Series

1059
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: and in baseball it is hurt And look, I think

1060
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: it's fun what's going on right now?

1061
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1062
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: But last year, who'd you have Yankees Dodgers? Year before that,

1063
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: who'd you have Rangers Diamondbacks? I mean, the Rangers are

1064
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: still playing in TV mark, a top ten market, So

1065
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: I got it. Before that, Houston second biggest city in

1066
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: the country, third maybe I think it's third biggest Tampa,

1067
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: and then the Dodgers, Washington, Boston, big market, team's big payroll,

1068
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: and I'm here for it. I enjoy it's fun, but

1069
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that that has hurt baseball to an

1070
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: extent the NBA. The NBA is a star driven league,

1071
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: and because you only have five guys on a team

1072
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: on the floor at the same time, it only takes

1073
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: one or two players to completely change things. So a

1074
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: little bit different. People in the NBA are gravitated towards

1075
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: the stars as opposed to the markets. But the bigger

1076
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: the market, oftentimes the easier time you have in getting

1077
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: the stars. Okay, but in the NFL, the NFL is

1078
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound Gorella because even though we say

1079
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: hope springs eternal in Major League Baseball and every preseason

1080
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: teams feel like they've got a shot, it's the NFL

1081
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: where that's really true. Look at the Indianapolis Colts. The

1082
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 1: Colts are a team that the schedule helped them because

1083
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: they were coming off of a bad year. Yes, that's

1084
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: only like a two game difference, but it is a

1085
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: difference nonetheless. But also the way you draft, all of

1086
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: the things are set up salary cap, revenue sharing. It's

1087
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: set up for parity PA r it Y, not PA

1088
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: r O d Y. It's set up for even balance,

1089
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: so that every year teams are like, you know what,

1090
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: I think, actually this year or we're a year away

1091
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. It's an art in the NFL.

1092
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it is an art in the NFL. Somebody

1093
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: should give the Tennessee Titans a plaque. Do you know

1094
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: how hard it is to suck annually? It's hard and

1095
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: they manage to do it. But in the Jets as well,

1096
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: they literally, like, if you go to the Indianapolis Motter Speedway,

1097
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: they've got those things called the Titan air dryers. They

1098
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: should create one of those and put it in bronze

1099
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: and just call it the Titan Jet. And it literally

1100
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: is named for the NFL team that is stuck in

1101
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: suck every single good year, because there's only two franchises

1102
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: that theoretically are there. The Panthers are kind of there

1103
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: as well at times, but they're showing a little bit

1104
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: of heartbeat and the Saints will see because they haven't

1105
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: been there long enough. But either way, the thing that

1106
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: Eddie is interesting about the National Football League to me

1107
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: is when we're sitting there going through it, we have

1108
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: literally a third of the league that we don't know

1109
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: yet whether or not they're good. And it's because you

1110
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: say either and I'm not saying you specifically, but we

1111
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: as people we say about these teams one of two things.

1112
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: We either say, well, I ain't played anybody, or you say,

1113
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, well they haven't they haven't lost any bad teams,

1114
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: you know whatever. If you haven't played anybody, who is somebody?

1115
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: Colts haven't played anybody. The Colts haven't beaten anybody. Well,

1116
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: who is somebody? Who is the team? Who is the

1117
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: team that the Colts need to beat? Where people are like, okay,

1118
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: they're for real.

1119
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: I still stand there would be Kansas City. Okay, in

1120
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.

1121
01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: That's fair. So then for Kansas City. But who is

1122
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City beaten? That leads you to believe that? Tell

1123
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: me who Kansas City has beaten? Where you say, well,

1124
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: that's why, Well, they.

1125
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: Demolished Baltimore when they were healthy, uh thirty seven and

1126
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't even that close. They it's balto Baltimore is

1127
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: going to be good when they get their guys back. Detroit.

1128
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: They took care of business against Detroit.

1129
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: Detroit. Good, who's Detroit beating?

1130
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: Let's rubble up Detroit scheduled I mean Detroit's good five.

1131
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: But I mean they beat the Ravens, they beat the Bears,

1132
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: they beat the Browns, they beat the Bengals. Theat the Browns,

1133
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: they beat in Elf. Great, they beat in Elf all right,

1134
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 2: all right, they beat the Browns. Let's go forty six

1135
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks beat the breaks off of Chicago.

1136
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: Massage to win against Deshaun Watson. All right, let's go

1137
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: hang a banner.

1138
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: Let's go lost that first game of the year, uh

1139
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: with the coordinators at green Bay when everybody thought green

1140
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: Bay the Bengals.

1141
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the Bengals are Who are the

1142
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: Bengals starting a quarterback this week?

1143
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: Right?

1144
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean they had to trade for Joe Flacco, who

1145
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: is literally six weeks away from doing insurance ads with

1146
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: Joe Namath. I mean, come on, right. Bec My point,

1147
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: though I do it is That's why to me, it's

1148
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: that much more impressive what the Colts are doing because

1149
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: the league is set up for parity, and yet the

1150
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: Colts are managing to separate themselves and they're doing it

1151
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: with this offense that just scored again. I mean, you

1152
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: expect now, and not only are the Colts scoring, they're

1153
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: not just a quick strike offense. They're an offense that

1154
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:54,839
Speaker 1: can sit there and just literally you don't want your team's,

1155
01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: your fantasy football team's key receiver or key running back,

1156
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: key quarterback. You don't want a key offensive player of

1157
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: your team and fantasy football playing the Colts this week,

1158
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: not because of the Colts defense, because of the Colts

1159
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: offense that is keeping the ball out of the hands

1160
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: of the player you need points from, because they just

1161
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: control They totally control the game in terms of pace, clock, everything.

1162
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really impressive stuff. And again, is this

1163
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: sustainable long term? I don't know, but for right now,

1164
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: I think the whole league is waiting for the other

1165
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: shoe to drop here on this entire experiment with Daniel Jones,

1166
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: and at some point you're just like, I you ever

1167
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: seen Goodwill Hunting, Eddie?

1168
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had me watch that one.

1169
01:09:59,400 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: Did you like it?

1170
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 7: Not like it?

1171
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: It was going, Chuck, I had a double burger in

1172
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: Goodwill Hunting.

1173
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: Something of Robin Williams best work. And there's no question

1174
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 2: about that.

1175
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: In Goodwill Hunting, Ben Affleck says when he's talking about

1176
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Damon and he's like, you know what, the best part

1177
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: of my day is the best part of my day

1178
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: is when I show up and I think there's the

1179
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: chance that you're not going to be there because you

1180
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: finally just you took off and you spread your wings

1181
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: and you got out of all this and like at

1182
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: the end of the movie, that's what happens, right Starry

1183
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: spoiler alert, you just realize you're like, I don't think

1184
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: he's coming back. It's like Ostraker in the lacrosse game.

1185
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: It's like, guys, he's not coming back. And for the

1186
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: Colts right now, as the rest of the league sits

1187
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: in this parody, at some point you have to say

1188
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: to yourself, I don't think they're coming back to the pack.

1189
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: I think they're really this good. I don't know why.

1190
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how I can. We can sit here

1191
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 1: and go on and pontificate about it and speculate about

1192
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: it and point to stats and points to this and

1193
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: point to that, and a big part of it is

1194
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones. At some point you have to say

1195
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: to yourself, I don't think he's going back to being

1196
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I think he really is on his way

1197
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: to California to go see about a girl, and we're

1198
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: not going to see him again. If you're the if

1199
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: you're the rest of the league waiting for him to

1200
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: come back down to earth and the Colts. The Colts

1201
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: have to make that decision. Is in fact they're enough

1202
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: finality there of that for them to definitively say we

1203
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: need to pay this guy, we need to lock him in.

1204
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: And that's one of the decisions that they have to make. Now,

1205
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: let me ask you one other team here, ready, while

1206
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: we're at it. Okay, Okay, I mean, hell, we've gone

1207
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: through at the team at the league at this point.

1208
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:52,759
Speaker 1: You ready, Okay, the Cleveland Browns?

1209
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 2: Are you serious?

1210
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 1: I mean I just made fun of him, but I

1211
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: do think that they have some God no, okay, please

1212
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: fair La Chargers see and that in that vein, Then

1213
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: you got another reason why you've got to be impressive.

1214
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 1: Are doing?

1215
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: We may judge good differently, Jake. My definition goes like,

1216
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: are you a playoff team?

1217
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: Like?

1218
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 2: Are you a team that's competing for the playoffs?

1219
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: How about this one? Washington Commanders.

1220
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: I feel so bad for them because they're so injury riddled.

1221
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: I do think they're a good.

1222
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: Team, though, I think I think Washington it's one of

1223
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: those years. If you're doing sports talk radio in Washington.

1224
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: You're just you're you've moved on. You're like, you know, okay,

1225
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: well back to the Wizards. You imagine how bad that

1226
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: would suck? Can you imagine if you're doing sports talk

1227
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: radio right now in Washington, You're like, Okay, the Gnats,

1228
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: the Whiz and the Commanders. Bring on Georgetown, baby, you know,

1229
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean, George Washington gonna be any good this year?

1230
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 2: Gosh I got And how painful their last three loss

1231
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: they've been for the Commanders.

1232
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him too, because I love Jaden Daniels.

1233
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: But Daniels goes down against Dallas they don't have their

1234
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: top three receivers, and then Chicago.

1235
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: It's a fault of theirs.

1236
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Corey krosskeymer get crossed up fumble leads to

1237
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: a game.

1238
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Winning you know. Another observation. And I've gotten used to

1239
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: and I kind of like their helmets and all that.

1240
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: I think I thought I got used to and thought

1241
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: Washington football team was cool. Yeah, I just would have

1242
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: stayed with that. Like just the generic nature of Washington

1243
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: football team. It sounds very nineteen like thirties newspaper movie

1244
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: reel The Washington football team Yesterday and a captivating win

1245
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten and over Dalls.

1246
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1247
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of fun. We come back.

1248
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: Kurt Signette. He had some interesting things to say, and

1249
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: perhaps he was saying it with a subtlety about one

1250
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: of his former colleagues. We will explain and we'll try

1251
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:56,600
Speaker 1: to catch up with Steven Holder as well. Indiana is

1252
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: set to get back on to the grid iron, tacking

1253
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: on UCLA and you remember, Actually, I think you could

1254
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: make the argument that UCLA was kind of the wake

1255
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: up call to an extent for the rest of the

1256
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: country last year with IU football, because it was when

1257
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: they went and I'd have to look, Eddie, if you

1258
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: could look up their schedule last year. I think maybe

1259
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: it was like week three or four. It was fairly

1260
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: early on. But just the whole aura of you know,

1261
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: the Pac ten, Pac twelve, whichever you want to call it,

1262
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: Merger and UCLA and USC and don't kid yourself, Ucla

1263
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: and for that matter, Washington, they were like Bogo, buy one,

1264
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: get one. For example, I you Indy and their basketball

1265
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 1: coach Ben Hallett, He's going to be at a chocolate

1266
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: company up in Fishers and on Monday making chocolates, and

1267
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: if you go up there and buy a chocolate you

1268
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: get in a basketball ticket for free. And I think,

1269
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: I you INDI this year men's basketball is going to

1270
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: be really good.

1271
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 2: I do.

1272
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: And in addition to that, their volleyball team has home

1273
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: games this week, and if you go to those games,

1274
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 1: you can get by if you buy them online. You

1275
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: use the old Bogo phrase buy one, get one, and

1276
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: you can get tickets to men's soccer. You know, that's

1277
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: how people do these things, right. And when the Big

1278
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: Ten was expanding, they basically said with USC and Oregon

1279
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: both like we're gonna bogo, We're gonna buy one, get one,

1280
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: and they wanted USC for football, and USC essentially said

1281
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: we will come to the Big Ten, but we need

1282
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: a travel partner or school or one that has to

1283
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Speaker 1: come with us, essentially, And so the Big Ten said, fine,

1284
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: then we'll take Ucla because it was all about football.

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 1: Ucla has a huge basketball program, but it was all

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01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: about football, and so Ucla kind of they piggyback the

1287
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 1: USC inn And while I don't know for certain that's

1288
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: how Washington got in, I think for sure the Big

1289
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: Ten was going after Oregon for the football prestige and

1290
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: the Nike money, and therefore Oregon did the same thing

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01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: and that's how Washington got brought in because it had

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01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: football prowess. But when Indiana went to UCLA last year,

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01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: I think because Kurt Signetti was new to Indiana and

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01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: the and Ucla was new to the Big Ten, the

1295
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: experience of going to the Rose Bowl was this measuring

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: stick for a lot of Indiana fans. And it was

1297
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: on national television, it was in the Rose Bowl, and

1298
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: all these Indiana fans went out there because when would

1299
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: Indiana ever go to the Rose Bowl? Right? And like

1300
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: I found out when I went to the Oasis show

1301
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: back a month ago or so. I mean, the one

1302
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: thing I learned about the Rose Bowl fabulous venue, absolutely gorgeous, beautiful,

1303
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: perfect setting, historic, and then you go in there and

1304
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: you're like, this place is a dump. And in nineteen

1305
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: twenty five, clearly everybody was five foot four and ninety

1306
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: five pounds and literally it's one hundred and five thousand

1307
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: seats and all of them you feel like you're sitting

1308
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: in a kid's booster seat in their concrete. Not literally,

1309
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: but they felt like it. But Indiana went in there

1310
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: and just I mean literally had their way with the

1311
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: UCLA They controlled that entire game, and that I think

1312
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: to a lot of people was the wake up call

1313
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: of like whoa, I mean, this is what in the

1314
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: world here? Right? And then they went on and you

1315
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: saw what they did. Right. But now they're getting ready

1316
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: to play UCLA again. It's at home. The tables have

1317
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 1: turned because now we know so it is in fact

1318
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:08,799
Speaker 1: Indiana that's a benchmark game for UCLA. Because UCLA fired

1319
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: their head coach in Deshaun Foster. Remember he's the one

1320
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: that at media days like we're from Ucla, Uh, we're

1321
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 1: from La poor guy, a legendary football player at UCLA.

1322
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: But now since they fired him, UCLA has totally turned

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01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: things around.

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01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: Well, not him, they fired him like early in the year,

1325
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 2: like three weeks ago. They fired Tino Cinceri. It was

1326
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 2: the former quarterbacks coach, I believe, correct with IU So.

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01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: I was getting to that, right they have Ucla has

1328
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: sprung new life here. And yes, Tino Cinceri, who had

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01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: been a coach at Indiana and had been a co

1330
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: coordinator at Indiana, right, and but he was plucked away.

1331
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I can't remember did he

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 1: come with Signetti from JMU.

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01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: Yes, or was he already on staff? Either way, I

1334
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: can't remember. I thought he was another one of those guys.

1335
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: Either way, he was a member of the UCLA staff

1336
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,520
Speaker 1: and now is not. And you wonder if Kurt Signetti,

1337
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: does Signetti now have even more motivation and drive against

1338
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: UCLA or is this coach speak for the old Lou

1339
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:44,839
Speaker 1: Holtz strategy. Here is Kurt Signetti talking about the Bruins

1340
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: getting ready to come to Indiana.

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01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 8: Or playing a three and oh football team that's undefeated,

1342
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 8: that's three and oh in the conference since they have

1343
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,440
Speaker 8: retold their staff and now have their new defensive coordinator

1344
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:04,440
Speaker 8: and offensive staff in place. Very impressive football team and offensively,

1345
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 8: this team is rushing for two hundred and thirty three

1346
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 8: yards a game right now in their last three games,

1347
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,799
Speaker 8: which would be against Penn State, Michigan State, and Maryland.

1348
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 8: Time of possession thirty six and a half minutes. I

1349
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 8: mean the other team has ball twenty three and a

1350
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 8: half minutes, fifty third down, seventy percent on fourth down.

1351
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 8: They've gained two possessions with two fake punts, so they're

1352
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 8: keeping the ball away from the other team. They're starting fast,

1353
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 8: outscoring people in the first half fifty eight to seventeen, okay,

1354
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 8: averaging thirty three points a game. And defense a lot

1355
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 8: of different personnel packages really try to keep you off balance.

1356
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,520
Speaker 8: Really impressed with what they do. When you get outside

1357
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 8: of normal down and distance situations, you see a lot

1358
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 8: of stuff. They got about seven personnel packages, a variety

1359
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 8: of blitzes, pre snap looks, with linebackers mugged, try to

1360
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 8: confuse the quarterback a little bit, and they're rejuvenated football team.

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01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: Let me give you a couple of glimpses here into

1362
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti and why Indiana fans listen up here. That

1363
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: sounded condescending, but I'm going to tell you a couple

1364
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: of things about Kurt Signetti as to why we're seeing

1365
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. First off, nothing nothing goes overlooked by

1366
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 1: this guy, every single detail, attention to detail. You could

1367
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: hear it right there. I played that for you because

1368
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: when you hear that, not because anybody really cares about

1369
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: time as possession and yards rushing and et cetera. But

1370
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 1: when you listen to that, he wasn't looking off a sheet.

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01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: That's a guy that has examined and double checked every

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01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: single aspect of his football team. It's like when when

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01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: you work at a grocery store. When I worked at

1374
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: a Maya's grocery store, people'd come in and they'd say,

1375
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: excuse me, do you know where I find Uncle Bin's rice? Yes,

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01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: it's now. I would walk them down to it. I

1377
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: was training that but Aisle five, left hand side, three

1378
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: quarters of the way down, second shelf right there, and

1379
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: it's right next to you know whatever, you knew every inch,

1380
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: every nuance, every barcode of that store. That's how he

1381
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: is with this football program. Attention to detail. But you

1382
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: noticed that when he talked about that attention to detail,

1383
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: everything's calculated, thinking things through. And maybe this is me

1384
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 1: overthinking it or overanalyzing it. But when he talked about

1385
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: the UCLA offense and the rejuvenation that has taken place

1386
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: since they've made changes in their coaching staff Sincearri who

1387
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: came with him from James Madison, who was a quarterbacks

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01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: coach for him at James Madison and then the quarterbacks

1389
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: coach for Curtis Rourke and the co offensive coordinator in

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: Indiana and then goes to UCLA in those same capacities.

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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: You notice right there when he was complimenting the improvement

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01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: UCLA's made, he mentioned essentially every single aspect of their

1393
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 1: football program, but the court, the passing game, attention to detail.

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01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: He knows the one little detail out of the eight

1395
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: areas that he talked about, he made sure that he

1396
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: didn't talk about if they made an improvement in the

1397
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: one area, that would have been besmirching his guy. A

1398
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: loyalty to his guy. But the other thing is this,

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01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti is a film guy more than any coach

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01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: Indiana's had in quite some time. And I don't necessarily

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: even mean in preparing for games and in knowing that

1402
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: level of information about UCLA and knowing the nuance of

1403
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: every aspect, every statistic, every strength and weakness of a

1404
01:23:55,479 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: football team, but more so his own. Kurt Signetti, if

1405
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: you are going to play it, Indiana, you are not

1406
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: somebody that he looks at it and goes, we got

1407
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 1: a four star out of such such high school that's

1408
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: interested in the Let's go send him letters and let's

1409
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: see if he wants to come here. Kurt Signetti spends

1410
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: hours hours watching videotape, tendencies, background studies, and analysis of

1411
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: every player Indiana's recruiting before he determines whether or not

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01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: they're a fit for Indiana football. Attention to detail, and

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01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: it's for that reason, that dedication, and that understanding the

1414
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: hr of the people of his program past and present.

1415
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: That's why Indiana right now may be the best team

1416
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: in college football. Steven Holder is with ESPN dot Com.

1417
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: He joins us on the Java House Peel and Poor

1418
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 1: Guest line, and of course has been out at the

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Colts Complex. Steven, I'm going to begin with something that

1420
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: we were just talking about earlier, and it's a little

1421
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: off the beaten path, perhaps maybe even ahead of the game,

1422
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:05,480
Speaker 1: but thinking about aaron Ne Smith and the Pacers announcing,

1423
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: you know, his extension within their franchise. I look at

1424
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce and he is clearly becoming a piece that

1425
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 1: the Colts are going to want to maintain. Then you

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01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: get into the financials of it, that's probably well beyond

1427
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: our pay grade. But do you believe that it's possible

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01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: there are players on the roster that will agree to

1429
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: restructure in order to make things like that possible.

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01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 7: That's an interesting question. I think it would. It would

1431
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 7: kind of depend on on where they're at, you know,

1432
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 7: with with Daniel Jones after the season and what that

1433
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 7: contract looks like, because I mean, at this point, right

1434
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 7: we're working under the assumption that that that's going to

1435
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 7: happen unless Daniel Jones for some reason wants to go

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01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 7: somewhere else, Right, But I think that's going to be

1437
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 7: the big piece of the puzzle. And and then how

1438
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 7: many of these veteran players from this cores they intend

1439
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 7: to keep next year, which is an impossible question to answer,

1440
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 7: and all that, But I think the problem with Alec Parris,

1441
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 7: and it's not a problem, it's just a reality, right.

1442
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 7: The reality with Alec Pearce is that it is going

1443
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 7: to be expensive, probably more than people realize. All Right,

1444
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 7: Right now, Michael Pittman Junior is around what twenty one

1445
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 7: twenty two million a year. I think he in terms

1446
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 7: of this particular season, he might have the biggest cap

1447
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 7: number on the team. Even so, I'm not saying Alex

1448
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 7: Pearis is going to be the same sort of money,

1449
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 7: but I think we're getting to that point where he's

1450
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 7: going to be in the ballpark of that range, and

1451
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 7: or at least potentially. So if that's the case, then

1452
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 7: it becomes this is the reality. How much money are

1453
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 7: you spending at wide receivers? And I don't know what

1454
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 7: the right answer is, but I'm just telling you that

1455
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 7: that has to be part of the equation. I will

1456
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 7: tell you when they thought they had something in a

1457
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 7: d Mitchell, and they still might we're talking about a

1458
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 7: year from now. They were very much of the opinion

1459
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 7: that they were moving on from alex Paris after this year.

1460
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 7: No disrespected him, just the reality. What I wonder is

1461
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 7: whether that's changed with the ad Mitchell dynamics.

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01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: Steven, When you guys talk to Chris Ballard about different things,

1463
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: free agency, money, franchise tag, it's always will work through

1464
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,520
Speaker 2: that and we'll use the franchise tag as a tool. Potentially.

1465
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 2: If you had to guess, would you say that the

1466
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 2: franchise tag will be used this offseason, whether that's on

1467
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,879
Speaker 2: Alan Hears, Daniel Jones, Nick Cross, Braden Smith, or whomever.

1468
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Speaker 7: I think you have to hold on to it. For

1469
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 7: Jones in particular, I think elsewhere you probably roll the dice.

1470
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 7: I don't know that they are going to have been

1471
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 7: over backwards to do it with anyone else or feel

1472
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 7: the necessity. I think you have to hold on to

1473
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 7: it though. Up until the last minute as a tool

1474
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 7: with the Daniel Jones negotiation, because if that deal is

1475
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 7: not done by the time you get depending on where

1476
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 7: you sit and depending on how you feel about those negotiations,

1477
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 7: I think you have to do it.

1478
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: I just do.

1479
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 7: I think you have to assign a tag. You can

1480
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 7: always pull it back, right, you pull it back, you

1481
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 7: do the deal when you're reach an agreement, and then

1482
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 7: everybody walks away happy. It may it may end up

1483
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 7: working out like that. And it's no like it's nothing personal.

1484
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 7: If they hit you with the tag, it's really just

1485
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 7: it's to give the team flexibility. It is. It is

1486
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 7: an advantage for the team and a disadvantage for the player,

1487
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 7: There's no question about that. But it's also not like,

1488
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 7: you know, it's not the end of the world if

1489
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 7: they do tag you, if in fact they're trying to

1490
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 7: legitimately do a deal with you in good faith. And

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Speaker 7: I think that will be the case with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 7: I think it may come to that, And that's what

1493
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 7: I would set it aside for is for.

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Speaker 1: Jones, Stephen, where do we stand for the Colts right

1495
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: now on this? And I realized it's a Tuesday, so

1496
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: perhaps it's early to know, But where do we stand

1497
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: health wise in terms of those that we still might

1498
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: be waiting on or those that we would expect to

1499
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: be seeing now here against Tennessee.

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Speaker 7: Well, let's see. I mean the big question, I guess,

1501
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 7: is this what we're talking about Sampson that Ebbucom. I

1502
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 7: do think now that the Colts haven't said this, but

1503
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 7: the indications are that he will miss some time at

1504
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 7: least this week. Beyond that. Yes, an mcl spraying, I

1505
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 7: guess is what we're thinking. It is what the word is.

1506
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 7: And here's why that's problematic. It's not that Sampson Edbucom

1507
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 7: is prime, you know, von Miller or anything. It's just

1508
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 7: that the depth on the defensive line, on defense in general,

1509
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 7: the depth on defense generally, it's really poor right now

1510
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 7: because of injuries, and you know, you can only hold

1511
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 7: on so long because and this is compounded by the

1512
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 7: loss of Taekwon Lewis. He's got a groin strain. I

1513
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 7: don't know what his status is. I takes the matter

1514
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 7: the game, and he said he just couldn't push through it.

1515
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 7: He tried. He just said, you know, those are painful,

1516
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 7: you know, he just kind of one of those things

1517
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 7: you kind of get split apart there, and you know

1518
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 7: a lot of groin strings in this town this year, right,

1519
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 7: So it's it's tough. It's really tough to maneuver into

1520
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 7: and to change direction and things like things like that.

1521
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,240
Speaker 7: So I don't know what his status is, but I

1522
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 7: think those two guys are big questions for me, as

1523
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 7: I said, because I think they are core pieces of

1524
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 7: the rotation, and if they are gone now you are

1525
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 7: digging deeper into the depth chart as you are already

1526
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:03,839
Speaker 7: doing in the defensive backfield, and that has had consequences obviously.

1527
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 7: So defensive depth is my question right now? How are

1528
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 7: they doing?

1529
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 2: They're not great?

1530
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Okay, what about defensive pass rush? Are they going to

1531
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,520
Speaker 1: make a move before the trade deadline?

1532
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 7: I predict they probably won't, just because I don't think

1533
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 7: those those deals are are necessarily as as plentiful as

1534
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 7: people think. They're just not now. And then the other

1535
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 7: factor I should say is that that has not been

1536
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 7: Chris Ballard's m ever, right. If anything, he's a seller,

1537
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 7: not a not a buyer. However, I think this is

1538
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 7: a such a unique year. They have such an opportunity

1539
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 7: here and they've never been here. They're the best record

1540
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 7: in the NFL. I mean, when have we been able

1541
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 7: to say that through seven weeks? They have they have

1542
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 7: such a good team, they have the best record.

1543
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 6: In the league.

1544
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 7: They have. This is a I guess, a situation where

1545
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 7: history kind of doesn't matter, meaning like Chris Ballard's history,

1546
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 7: you know, his tendencies and all that. I don't know

1547
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 7: that they matter at this point because this is a

1548
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 7: unique situation, an unprecedented situation for him. So I say

1549
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 7: all that to say, I think it's still a possibility,

1550
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 7: if not a likelihood, I think it's more likely than usual.

1551
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 7: I still don't think it's necessarily likely. If that makes

1552
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 7: any sense.

1553
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. Stephen Holder, our guest ESPN dot comies

1554
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: on the Java House Pilamport guest line. Stephen, the you know,

1555
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: offensively speaking, what the cults are doing, and this really

1556
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: is remarkable. What they are doing is nearly historic. I

1557
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: mean of the last twenty five years, their points per possession,

1558
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:56,719
Speaker 1: their offensive efficiency, their ability in so many different ways

1559
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: to move the football with all of that to me,

1560
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me if you think

1561
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 1: this is almost by design. It's great that they score

1562
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,480
Speaker 1: a lot of points, but more so, they are controlling

1563
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: the football. They're not turning it over. But they have

1564
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: big strike capability. But is it somewhat by design of

1565
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen to just chew clock and keep other teams

1566
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: at bay and not allowing opposition to get in rhythm.

1567
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 7: So I don't think it's necessarily a tactic. I think

1568
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 7: what you're seeing is happening by default because of something

1569
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,560
Speaker 7: you just said, because of their efficiency.

1570
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 1: So what do I.

1571
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:43,440
Speaker 7: Mean It means they don't have a lot of turnovers

1572
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 7: on downs, Well, they get a lot of first downs, right,

1573
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 7: I think they leave the NFL in first downs, so

1574
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 7: they convert. They also they sustain drives just generally because

1575
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 7: they're not turning it over. So all of the things

1576
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 7: that kill drives, penalties, all that stuff, turnovers, drops, all

1577
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 7: of that, all the things that kill drives, those are

1578
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 7: the things they've managed to avoid. So if you do that,

1579
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 7: you are going to possess the football and you are

1580
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 7: going to have eight, nine, ten, eleven play drives because

1581
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 7: that's the way most drives, and up most scoring drives

1582
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 7: end up happening that way. The problem is most most

1583
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 7: drives get killed for a number of reasons.

1584
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 1: The Colts.

1585
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 7: For whatever reason, they've avoided all of those pitfalls much

1586
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 7: better than other teams. And that's why I kind of

1587
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 7: think this is sustainable. I mean that becomes something of

1588
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 7: an identity of who you are. You're you're the team

1589
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,480
Speaker 7: that doesn't screw it up. It's weekly.

1590
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1591
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,639
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, No, No, that's it. I think that's the answer.

1592
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 7: It's not intentional, but it's it's a product of who

1593
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 7: they are and how they're playing.

1594
01:34:55,520 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, in short, with Tennessee here at home at

1595
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: no disrespect to the Titans, but with an opponent at

1596
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: home that inferior, does that in any way, shape or

1597
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: form impact the rapidity with which guys may come back

1598
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 1: from injury or does it give them, in the back

1599
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: of their mind the flexibility of holding guys out to

1600
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: be cautious.

1601
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 7: So they haven't operated that way generally this year. I

1602
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 7: think they're taking the long view with their injuries. You know,

1603
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 7: look at the Kenny Moore situation, like they they gave

1604
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 7: him a full three weeks and he was able to

1605
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 7: come back and be effective. Could he have rushed maybe?

1606
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 7: I don't think they look at it that way. I

1607
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 7: think they're looking at it just in terms of the

1608
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 7: long view, and that is the right way to look

1609
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 7: at it. I think forget the opponent. It's really about

1610
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 7: having these guys down the stretch and whatever it takes

1611
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 7: to do that, that's what they should do.

1612
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 1: Stevenholder, ESPN dot Com, Java House, Peel and poor guests one.

1613
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Steven appreciate it as always. Man, all right, you got it.

1614
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: Are a busy day for Steven Holder and appreciate working

1615
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 1: as Sam will come back. Scott Agnes, little pacer talk.

1616
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Marks is well, two o'clock hour. Here a querying

1617
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: company on a Tuesday. Scott agnesfield House files in just

1618
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: a second, will be joining us. But before he does so,

1619
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,799
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison, do you happen to have the breaking news sounder?

1620
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: This just end for you fans of college basketball and

1621
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 1: notably fans of the Indiana Hoosiers and Darren Devreese. Anthony

1622
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Thompson not the guy that should have won the nineteen

1623
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 1: eighty nine Heisman Trophy, even though Andre Ware won it

1624
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 1: after Anthony Thompson had returned to kickoff against Purdue down

1625
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 1: to nearly the goal line and winning the game in

1626
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: the Scott Bandamaus the field goal, and Anthony Thompson unfortunately

1627
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: didn't win the Heisman. I'm not blaming it on Scott Banal,

1628
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: but I still remember it vividly. Anthony Thompson, who is

1629
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:55,240
Speaker 1: a top fifteen college basketball recruit if you follow such things,

1630
01:36:55,720 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 1: a five star player announcing today his college basketball choice

1631
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,480
Speaker 1: between North Carolina, Kentucky, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio State, and Texas.

1632
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 1: You Indiana fans saw the pictures of him at assembly

1633
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,839
Speaker 1: Hall with his candy striped pants. He is an Ohio

1634
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: State Buckeye, announcing that today. At least that's where he

1635
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: announced he's going. Now that means he could reopen his

1636
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: recruitment at any time. When he starts to realize that

1637
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: all of his classmates are getting lots of attention for

1638
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: the cap dance and he has been left in the

1639
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 1: cold because everybody knows where he's going and they're not

1640
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: talking about him anymore, and then all of a sudden,

1641
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: he sends a tweet that says, I've decided, after a

1642
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 1: lot of thought, to open up my recruitment. Please respect

1643
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: my decision. I'm not saying this kid will do that.

1644
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying there is certainly pattern of precedent, But I

1645
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: now return to my non cynical fifty three year old ways,

1646
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: joining us now in the job ass peel and poor

1647
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,759
Speaker 1: guest line. He is with field House File Scott Agnes.

1648
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: Scott will be in with the big news, and that

1649
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: is I thought, really good news for Indiana extending aaron

1650
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: Ne Smith. And what's funny is feel free to tell

1651
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:02,759
Speaker 1: me that I'm wrong. Even in nearly doubling his salary

1652
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: aaron NEI Smith, I think is still a bargain your thoughts.

1653
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, good afternoon, Jake, no question. I mean, especially as

1654
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 3: we're going to continue to see the salary cap rise

1655
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 3: as expected roughly ten percent annually. It feels like in

1656
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 3: NBA terms, this is going to feel like in a

1657
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 3: couple of years like a four million dollar guy, which

1658
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:23,759
Speaker 3: is like an extreme bargain. So for Aaron he gets

1659
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 3: the stability, the guarantees, the know how that he's going

1660
01:38:27,479 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 3: to be under contract for the next four years, and

1661
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 3: from the pacers side, it also gives them clarity knowing

1662
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 3: the guys that they have under contract. This one ties

1663
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 3: him with Tyrese Haliburton for four more years as well,

1664
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 3: and so it's a good thing all around.

1665
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 1: Where did things stand in pardon my asking this, Scott

1666
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,799
Speaker 1: with nim Hard, I can't remember if he was recently

1667
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: extended or he is up soon, do you recall?

1668
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it was last summer the Pacers. He was

1669
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 3: one of the guys that the Pacers were able to

1670
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 3: do a deal with. It was a three year extension

1671
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 3: last year. He was like one of six guys that

1672
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 3: got paid after that run to the conference finals. He

1673
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 3: was able to do it the previous year because he

1674
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 3: was not a first round pick, so his contract was

1675
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 3: a little bit different. Bring that to present terms, Benedict

1676
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 3: Matheren was here recently eligible for a contract extension that

1677
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 3: has now expired. So he'll play this year out on

1678
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 3: the final year of his rookie deal, and he will

1679
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 3: become the big question going into next summer, much like

1680
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 3: it was kind of at this time of year. It

1681
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 3: was probably Isaiah Jackson coming off his rookie deal.

1682
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,799
Speaker 1: Okay. So that means if I'm writing this down, okay,

1683
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: if we're looking at let's say, you know this year,

1684
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 1: we know the realities of this year. Next year you

1685
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,280
Speaker 1: have Halliburton back in the mix, okay, and then let's

1686
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 1: say the year after that, so Halliburton now has had

1687
01:39:49,400 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: one full year of playing, you know, so, in other words,

1688
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 1: in two seasons, Nie Smith is locked in for that year. Correct, Yes,

1689
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 1: ty Reese is locked in for the that year. Would

1690
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 1: that be the final year of Siakam or to Siakam

1691
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 1: is next season, Siakam's last year.

1692
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 3: Siakam has two more years after this one.

1693
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: Okay, so you Seakam for that and then Nim you said,

1694
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 1: Nim Hart. Okay, Nie Smith? Now what about there are

1695
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: two others here, Obi Toppin.

1696
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 3: Obi Toppin re signed the last summer that will run

1697
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 3: through the twenty twenty seven twenty twenty eight seasons. So

1698
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 3: you can see the similar timeline here.

1699
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're aligning all of this right now. The

1700
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: question becomes do you believe Scott? And we didn't mention

1701
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: this earlier, and perhaps I should have. If you look

1702
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,719
Speaker 1: at Benedictmaden and the decision by the Pacers to still wait,

1703
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: is that partially because perhaps they want to see where

1704
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: Jeris Walker and Johnny Furfey are, or even Ben Shephard,

1705
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: to see how they want to distribute, maybe even trying

1706
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: to lock in say two of those guys as opposed

1707
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: to just one with Matheren, who you think is gonna

1708
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 1: be big ticket or is that me way over thinking

1709
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: the math.

1710
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,640
Speaker 3: I think that's a factor, but I'd probably put it

1711
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 3: down the list just a couple. I think first of all,

1712
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 3: it's at this time of year right now, on a

1713
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 3: rookie year contract, rookie scale contract, it's in favor of

1714
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 3: the teams. So that's why you see a Nie Smith

1715
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 3: bargain type deal getting done. If you're Benedict Mathern, you

1716
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,799
Speaker 3: see what's ahead of you, Jake, you see a greater

1717
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 3: role being in the starting lineup, the team needing him

1718
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 3: to do more at both ends of the floor. If

1719
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 3: you're a guy that doesn't is not desperate for that

1720
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:42,799
Speaker 3: stability and is willing to bet on yourself. As we know, Bennedict,

1721
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 3: probably more than any other Pacer player is is able

1722
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 3: to do that because he's a restrictive free agent. So

1723
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 3: from a team standpoint, the Pacers win with his upside

1724
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 3: if he grows and his incredible as an All Star,

1725
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,600
Speaker 3: the Pacers can still match any offer out there. But

1726
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 3: on the other side of it, I think the number

1727
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 3: one factor in all this, and Nie Smith helps provide

1728
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 3: some of that clarity for this front office is to

1729
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 3: understand at what point does this how expensive does this

1730
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 3: team get and do they need to go into the

1731
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 3: luxury tax and at what level there? So I think

1732
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 3: with Matherin, there's no reason unless you have a deal

1733
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 3: uh that suits both sides to get it done right now,

1734
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 3: because the Pacers have that option coming next summer where

1735
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 3: you're only going to have a handful of teams probably

1736
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 3: that will have enough money to compete with you at

1737
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 3: that juncture.

1738
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes is our guest here is on the Java

1739
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 1: House Peel and Port guest line Jake twenty five Jaka

1740
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 1: E two five Jake twenty five five percent off at

1741
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 1: Java house dot com. Scott, when you look at this season,

1742
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 1: and maybe this goes once we get into the year,

1743
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 1: but in your anticipation and the work that you've done

1744
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: for Fieldhouse Files and reading about it and just analyzing

1745
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: where the Pacers are, do you believe that this year

1746
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: for Rick Carlisle, for Kevin Pritchard, Chad Buchanan, do you

1747
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: think they are going into this saying we are doing

1748
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 1: everything we can to sustain and maintain our replacement amongst

1749
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: the top or do you think they're saying, this is

1750
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: a year that we now have been blessed with this

1751
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to get minutes and analysis of guys that otherwise

1752
01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 1: we might not have been able to do with.

1753
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeh, Jake, my sense, it's the first one within reason,

1754
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 3: within their capabilities. They want to compete at the highest

1755
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 3: level and continue to show that everybody's wrong. Like I

1756
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 3: was stunned, I don't know about you, Like the fact

1757
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 3: that Vegas last time I looked, had the Pacers at

1758
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 3: thirty six and a half wins. I see this team

1759
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 3: bearing injury to be well above that, certainly north of

1760
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 3: forty and in the playoffs, is my mind. Now, things

1761
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 3: can can go a ride just based off injuries like

1762
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 3: we saw at the beginning of last season. But this

1763
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 3: team is by no means just happy to be here

1764
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 3: going through the motions. And you're using a term I

1765
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 3: used several years ago, a year of discovery, right in

1766
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 3: reference to Johnny Furfree Walker, et cetera. I don't think

1767
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 3: that's at all the case, is what I'm gathering.

1768
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a couple of players, and I

1769
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: want you to tell me whether you believe. And this

1770
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: is assuming that they're healthy. Okay, so win healthy. I'm

1771
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 1: gonna give you some players and I want you to

1772
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 1: tell me the minutes that they see this year, whether

1773
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 1: you think it is more than last year, fewer than

1774
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 1: last year, or the same. Okay, Jaris Walker, I would

1775
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: say more. Okay, Ben Sheppard.

1776
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 3: About the same except the start of the season, I think,

1777
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 3: but about the same.

1778
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: Johnny Furfey more interesting. Okay. TJ McConnell about the same.

1779
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: And then after that you get into Okay, Obie Toppin,

1780
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: I think definitely more. Yeah, because top and they use,

1781
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 1: they will use in a couple different ways, will they not.

1782
01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 3: That's that's the thought here right now. With center being

1783
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 3: among your biggest concerns. I know it's a blimp. We

1784
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 3: only saw you know, handful of preseason games, but that

1785
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 3: seemingly was their most effective center was Obi and then

1786
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 3: running small at the other positions.

1787
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 1: Okay, starting center will be Isaiah Jackson to start the season,

1788
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 1: and you believe Isaiah Jackson will be essentially a rebounding

1789
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 1: and defensive center or a guy that becomes a staple

1790
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 1: within their offense as well. No, I think that.

1791
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 3: I think that position will be the fifth option offensively. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

1792
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 3: there's there's a lot he still has to grow into

1793
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 3: from a development standpoint, But the thing I highlight most

1794
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 3: about him is his rim running ability and get out

1795
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 3: and transition in that versatility. That's a little bit different

1796
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,480
Speaker 3: dynamic than we saw from Miles Turner.

1797
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 2: To Scott To kind of connect the two conversations the

1798
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 2: Benedict Mathery not getting any extension in the future of

1799
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 2: him with the franchise in the current center position. Could

1800
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 2: the aspect of the Pacers not wanting to sign him

1801
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 2: now also be because they're looking to potentially spend money

1802
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 2: to get a center that is paired that pairs well

1803
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:24,799
Speaker 2: with Tyry's Haliburton.

1804
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,920
Speaker 3: So from a fit standpoint, I think the number one

1805
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 3: thing in all this is just you couldn't agree to

1806
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 3: terms like Matherin you assume thinks highly of himself. I

1807
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 3: want a type of a max deal. I want a

1808
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 3: big money offer. Pacers on the other side have to

1809
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,799
Speaker 3: account for all those different contracts, say of on their books.

1810
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 3: He's been a role player, has not emerged at just

1811
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 3: Jet in that starting role. But yes, you're one hundred

1812
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 3: percent right to me, that would be the secondary piece

1813
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 3: in all this, after the money is does he fit

1814
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 3: with this team, does he allow Haliburton to play his game?

1815
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,560
Speaker 3: How does he surround the rest of the guys. Is

1816
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 3: it just a good fit, because at least initially, as

1817
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 3: we all know, the first couple of years, it was

1818
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 3: somewhat of a mismatch a little bit right just in

1819
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 3: desired playing styles. But Matherin is locked in more than

1820
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 3: any player I've heard about in camp right now. So

1821
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued to see how he plays and how he

1822
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,679
Speaker 3: he settles in now as a more mature, confident player

1823
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 3: within Rick Carlisle's system.

1824
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I feel bad for Matherin because you know,

1825
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: he's kind of in this stuck place. Scott, can you

1826
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: tell me if you disagree with this. If he has

1827
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 1: a year this year where he averages twenty one game,

1828
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I think he's probably more like eighteen, but you know whatever,

1829
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,839
Speaker 1: then they're gonna and one would think in the NBA

1830
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: that means you get a big payday. But there are

1831
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna be people that are gonna say, well, he got

1832
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: that because he was in a place where you know,

1833
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 1: he was the designated score because somebody had to score

1834
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: while they hold serve. And then on the other side

1835
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 1: of that, if he thinks that Indiana is the play

1836
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:04,799
Speaker 1: that will pay him because of that production. There still

1837
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: is an element of the fact that it kind of

1838
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 1: feels like he's a really nice sports car that is

1839
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 1: sleek and fun, but the Pacers are living in Montana

1840
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: where you can't go over forty five because the roads

1841
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 1: are too hilly, you know what I mean? It just

1842
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 1: it just doesn't It just feels like. I don't know

1843
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,559
Speaker 1: why I say this about Matheren because I like him.

1844
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't know him as a guy, but he seems

1845
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: like a nice guy. He has been at times a

1846
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: really fun player to watch, and he's been a very

1847
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 1: reliable player at times. But it does feel like he

1848
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 1: is the one player that his game, when flourishing, it

1849
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:52,879
Speaker 1: comes at the cost of the motion or the style

1850
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: that Indiana most thrives on. Would you agree with that?

1851
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's absolutely fair. But I do think

1852
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 3: he's done a good job. And you know, second part

1853
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 3: of last season in particular, is what it stood out

1854
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 3: to me of adapting more and leaning more in and

1855
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 3: and doing exactly what the coaching staff was seemingly asking

1856
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 3: of him. And so I go back go into this

1857
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 3: season thinking, look, if he can thrive this year, and

1858
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,599
Speaker 3: I think he'll probably be the second leading score. I

1859
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,719
Speaker 3: see probably a Siakam at twenty three points in Matherin

1860
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 3: at twenty one. It seems most likely to me right now.

1861
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 3: But just think you throw Haliburton back into that and

1862
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 3: that opens things up for everybody else. So that means

1863
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 3: in large part it could be even more open for

1864
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 3: him come following seasons. But look, you're always gonna have

1865
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,680
Speaker 3: change within the NBA, and with Tyree's coming back, then

1866
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 3: what does it mean for Matherin? Doesn't mean Nemhart's back

1867
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 3: in the starting line, stays in the starting line. Like,

1868
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 3: There's so many different levels to all of this. But

1869
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,600
Speaker 3: you're right, that's why I think from a individual standpoint,

1870
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 3: Mathern is the most interesting character in this upcoming season.

1871
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Scott, we both should point out, and fairness

1872
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: to Scott, to Benedic mather and Scott Agnes our guest

1873
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 1: from field House Files on the Java House appeling for

1874
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:09,639
Speaker 1: guest line, there is none of this is in any way,

1875
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:13,559
Speaker 1: shape or form an indictment on the person or the

1876
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 1: teammate of Benedict Matherin. There is zero evidence of that

1877
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 1: being an issue at all.

1878
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, no, No, you're completely leaning into stylistically and

1879
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 3: how do you maximize the player's best traits and does

1880
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 3: it align with the team's best traits? I think is

1881
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm gathering. That's totally been the conversation with

1882
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 3: Matherin always do you.

1883
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: Think lastly, Scott, I mean it's been It doesn't seem

1884
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 1: long ago that we're sitting here doing weekly chats with

1885
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 1: Austin Kroscher, you know, in the playoffs talking about the

1886
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: possibility of how close it is to a title and

1887
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: Achilles and Halliburton and all of it doesn't seem long

1888
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: ago at all. It wasn't long ago. It was the

1889
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 1: shortest postseason we've ever seen. Obviously, does that change the

1890
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 1: way the Pacers it to be the beginning of the

1891
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: year play or Look, that's a very good question.

1892
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:06,680
Speaker 3: The other one I would add to that that I

1893
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,559
Speaker 3: would like to ask Jacob is how did it impact

1894
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 3: training camp because the usage rate and in terms of

1895
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 3: how much these players to wear and tear. Look, tomorrow

1896
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 3: will mark four months from that last finals game. That

1897
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 3: is not a short turnaround at all. I mean, most

1898
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 3: of these players, Jake will take a month, month and

1899
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 3: a half and do nothing substantial, maybe just weight room

1900
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 3: and that's about it. Then get into their off season.

1901
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 3: And so the other big thing in all this that

1902
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 3: I don't have the answer to is how did all

1903
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 3: these players off season training change their regimen to adapt

1904
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:44,680
Speaker 3: to that longer season. With all this now, how I

1905
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:46,720
Speaker 3: would guess and all this is they're going to try

1906
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 3: to ease into this first month of the season from

1907
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 3: a minute standpoint and take it a little bit more

1908
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 3: cautious viewpoint. Get at the same time, you can't hold

1909
01:51:55,920 --> 01:51:58,680
Speaker 3: these players back a ton, but I would keep a

1910
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 3: stern eye on your your guys coming back from an Achilles,

1911
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 3: like Isaiah Jackson and James Wiseman. You don't want them

1912
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Speaker 3: playing significant minutes or maybe long runs. Maybe it's five

1913
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 3: minutes seven minute bursts out there, but that's where you

1914
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,879
Speaker 3: trust your medical staff. The Pacers have five athletic trainers

1915
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 3: and you got to lean into that.

1916
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:19,840
Speaker 2: Who's the favorite in the Eastern Conference? Is it Cleveland?

1917
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Speaker 3: I think by default Eddiot's got to be Cleveland, just

1918
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:25,840
Speaker 3: given what they did during the regular season. Knowing how

1919
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 3: they're leaning highly into this roster. They got the largest

1920
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 3: tax bill and obviously they have an AXT grind after

1921
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:38,519
Speaker 3: really struggling there in that postseason. But I mean after that,

1922
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,639
Speaker 3: and I think it's it's a toss up. Maybe other

1923
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 3: than New York. I think it's easily Cleveland and New

1924
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Speaker 3: York one two. Who could be this year's Indiana? Oh

1925
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Speaker 3: maybe Orlando in the Eastern Conference. Orlando's the team that

1926
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 3: I really like or buy into.

1927
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Speaker 2: What about Atlanta?

1928
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Speaker 3: I think I need to give it another year. I mean, look,

1929
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 3: you're still dealing with the Trey Young down there, and

1930
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Speaker 3: I'm not a big believer in building around him, just

1931
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 3: like Philly. For Philly, it's believe it when once I

1932
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 3: see it with him. We've been talking about them being

1933
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 3: contenders for ten years and nothing's come to fruition there.

1934
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Speaker 1: So trust the process. Philly. You're fifteen of the process,

1935
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:23,600
Speaker 1: right and it never got him to the final. I

1936
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: know Scott will have all of the coverage field House

1937
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Speaker 1: Files Pacer season getting underway Thursday night with Oak City.

1938
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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Scott. All right, thanks guys, Scott Agnes joining

1939
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Speaker 1: us field house House. By the way, Before we get

1940
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 1: to Bobby Marks, I have a question here. I have

1941
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 1: a call for the people of Indianapolis. Okay, we have

1942
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: with Indy Car we have This isn't the case anymore.

1943
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,759
Speaker 1: But we had a period there where we got travel bags,

1944
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 1: really nice suitcases. I think, I don't know how you

1945
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 1: pronounced the name of the brand. Is it ausio og Io?

1946
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 1: That was? We didn't get that brand. We had a

1947
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 1: brand called shock Doctor, which is no longer. They no

1948
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: longer make bags. But they're really nice bags and I

1949
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: love them, and we have two. We had several of them.

1950
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: But I have two size bags. Okay, one of the

1951
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: bags and I know I said they're nice bags. But

1952
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 1: one of the bags, the I mean, we've had them

1953
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 1: a long time. The handle broke, Like the handle that

1954
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,880
Speaker 1: extends out from the bag broke. Okay, Bag number two.

1955
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 1: The wheels on it are just like they're like grocery

1956
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: cart wheels. Now it's like when I go through the airport,

1957
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 1: it's a little embarrassing, right. So I'm like, okay, I

1958
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 1: have these two bags. I took them today to a

1959
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 1: place that says luggage repair, and I said, yeah, here's

1960
01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: the deal. This first bag. If you can repair the handle,

1961
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 1: then fabulous, great and then I'll just need to order

1962
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: a new set of wheels for the small bag. If

1963
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 1: you can't repair the handle on the big bag, the

1964
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:01,919
Speaker 1: wheels are all this same size. If you can't repair

1965
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: the handle on the big bag, then then that bag's

1966
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 1: Nolan void. But you can just take the wheels off

1967
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 1: that and transfer him to the little bag. The lady

1968
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: was thoroughly confused, had no idea what I was talking about,

1969
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 1: couldn't figure it out. And I said, I'll tell you what.

1970
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Just is the guy here that does that. I'll just

1971
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 1: I'll explain to him. Maybe if I show him what

1972
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that'll help. And she says, well, no, but

1973
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:26,040
Speaker 1: we have an analysis fee to pay before we can

1974
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: determine if we can fix the bags. And I said okay,

1975
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 1: and she said it's ten bucks a bag and I said, okay,

1976
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:35,120
Speaker 1: no problem. And what time will he be in He'll

1977
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: be hearing about six weeks. Excuse me, You'll leave your

1978
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 1: bag for six weeks and then we'll take a look

1979
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: at it. And I said, well, that seems like a

1980
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: long time, and she said, well, these are specialty items.

1981
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 1: I said, it says on your door luggage repair, like

1982
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: I okay, And maybe it's because they weren't like fixing

1983
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 1: the stitching. I don't know. So here is my question

1984
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: and people can feel free to text me their answer. Yes,

1985
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: I am utilizing the radio airways right now from my

1986
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: own personal gain of this dilemma. But I don't know.

1987
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:09,920
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five year, does anybody have a place

1988
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 1: that they highly suggest and recommend that could do that

1989
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 1: sort of a repair on luggage, one for the handle,

1990
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 1: the other for the for the wheels. Right, it's more

1991
01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 1: like a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that kind of wheel.

1992
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Speaker 2: You know, Jake, there's this fabulous website slash app that

1993
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 2: may be able to help you. No, understood, But I

1994
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 2: tried to huh YouTube? You tried YouTube? Well, no, so

1995
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 2: you are live by the way on the YouTube. What's

1996
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 2: that where you are live by the way on the

1997
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 2: YouTube with my Blue Jays hat?

1998
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: No, I realize. And yes, I tried to myself, with

1999
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,919
Speaker 1: a person far hander than myself, tried myself to remove

2000
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: the wheels. You know, I tried to do the wheel transfer. Yes,

2001
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, the person I was with

2002
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: pulled up a YouTube and he's like, you know what,

2003
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't think actually that I can do it. There's

2004
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: a specific kind of tool you need okay, fine, So

2005
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 1: so that said, though, I need like a luggage repair joint.

2006
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 1: Does anybody know where you would go? But it's not

2007
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 1: the stitching of it, it's the accentuation of the luggage

2008
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:14,839
Speaker 1: that needs repaired.

2009
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 2: I say, you have atage, you try to figure it

2010
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 2: out yourself. Next thing, you know, you have that as

2011
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 2: a side hustle.

2012
01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 1: That'd be awesome, wouldn't it. Yeah? But how about here's

2013
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 1: the thing. It's kind of like like when you're driving

2014
01:57:24,760 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 1: down the street and you see, now, like there's a

2015
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 1: joint up near where I grew up, there was a

2016
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 1: vacuum cleaner repair shop, and I'm like, who's going in

2017
01:57:31,680 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five to the vacuum cleaner repair shop? Like,

2018
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: aren't people now like you know what the vacuum cleaner.

2019
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 2: Calling That guy's in the vacuum cleaner repair shop, right.

2020
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: That's what that guy Instead of going to the vacuum

2021
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: cleaner repair shop for fish, he decided to turn it

2022
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,760
Speaker 1: into an instrument, right, Because don't you just now go, yeah,

2023
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 1: you know what, like the vacuum cleaner conked, get on

2024
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: a website and buy a new one.

2025
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 2: Boom.

2026
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm worried about this with I don't know if there's

2027
01:57:58,880 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: a luggage repair.

2028
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 2: Play can tweet your suggestions recommendations to them at je

2029
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 2: query or text them three point seven five two three

2030
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 2: ninety two AB eight.

2031
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: That is correct. Did you get hold of Bobby by

2032
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 1: the way, Yes, all right, I'll ask him if he

2033
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:18,040
Speaker 1: knows of luggage repair. Bobby Marx, NBA executive former and

2034
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 1: still of course member of ESPN in terms of college

2035
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: or excuse me, NBA basketball joins us next. Several people

2036
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 1: have asked, fair question, Jake, wouldn't it be less expensive

2037
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: just to replace the bags? Yes, but here's the thing, uh,

2038
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 1: And I get that you can get this done. Both

2039
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 1: of them were customized, which I like, but one of

2040
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: them is and I've never I've looked everywhere, I've not

2041
01:58:43,080 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 1: been able to find this. I love one of the

2042
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 1: bags because it is the design of it is made

2043
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 1: specifically to slope down to fit perfectly inside of an

2044
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 1: overhead bind like. It literally is custom made to the

2045
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 1: size of overhead bins on an airplane. Both of them

2046
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: have It's embroidered within it, our names and the logo

2047
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: for the radio network and everything else. Yes, Eddie, you're smiling.

2048
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 2: Yes, do you know what I just realized, Jake, this is.

2049
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 1: That's correct.

2050
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 2: In the song there's a rolling bog of yours from

2051
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 2: the Alplanio travels.

2052
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:17,520
Speaker 1: Yes, it is your. If I brought it in, you

2053
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 1: would say to yourself, I get it. Boy, that's a

2054
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 1: nice looking bag. Now, hey, Jake, we have a great

2055
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:25,240
Speaker 1: luggage repair shop. I thought, oh, this is excellent in

2056
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: Russia Ohio, which I believe is pronounced Rusi, but nonetheless

2057
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 1: it's Amish operated. I didn't know that they are Amish

2058
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 1: in Russia, the Russian Amish. Right did you know about that? Okay, honestly,

2059
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 1: did you know that? I had no idea.

2060
01:59:42,840 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 2: That's enough of that.

2061
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 1: Have you ever had that amased vodka? Now that let

2062
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:51,720
Speaker 1: me tell you something that's good living, Hey, Jake, I

2063
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: go to the vacuum store. Really, okay again, I I

2064
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 1: the vacuum repair joint. I mean, I listen, I want

2065
01:59:59,480 --> 02:00:05,400
Speaker 1: any And that's the thing that's hard is the mom

2066
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 1: and pop places. Now it's harder and harder to find them,

2067
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:11,600
Speaker 1: obviously understandably because people just like you mentioned, they go

2068
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:13,600
Speaker 1: on YouTube or they go wherever, and so I'm like, man,

2069
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 1: it is hard to find a luggage repair place. Odd

2070
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 1: as that may sound. And then but when they said

2071
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 1: that six weeks before they can look at it, and

2072
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:31,160
Speaker 1: I thought, well, how many how many luggage pieces are

2073
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 1: stacking up in this joint right? If it's a six

2074
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 1: week delay, that seemed seemed lengthy to me. Big news

2075
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 1: is the Pacers have given a contract extension to Aaron

2076
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 1: Ni Smith. But that means Nie Smith in the mix

2077
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 1: now in terms of when you're looking at Tyre's Haliburton

2078
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:53,440
Speaker 1: coming back, same too with Andren Mhardt, Pascal Siakam, and

2079
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 1: you got to kind of align those things to talk

2080
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,720
Speaker 1: about that and more. He joins us now on the

2081
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,760
Speaker 1: Java House Peel and Poor Guests line. Of course you

2082
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 1: see him on ESPN. He has been on this radio

2083
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 1: show many a times. Has always appreciated NBA front office

2084
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 1: insider for ESPN, Bobby Marks joining us, Bobby, I will

2085
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 1: get first and foremost right to this meat of the matter,

2086
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 1: and that is this Nie Smith deal. I think seems

2087
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 1: even still like a bargain with him doubling his price

2088
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 1: tag because I just think he's the kind of guy

2089
02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: that championship teams have a guy like a Nie Smith

2090
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,440
Speaker 1: that can Swiss army knife it a little bit but

2091
02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 1: it is a lot of money. Is it going to

2092
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 1: be a deal by the time this deal is done.

2093
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:38,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's still a value deal. I mean

2094
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 6: he still has two years left at eleven million dollars

2095
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:45,360
Speaker 6: per year and then this this doesn't kick in until

2096
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:47,520
Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven to twenty eight. I think you have

2097
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 6: to you have to remember as the salary cap grows

2098
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 6: so to the numbers, you know, it's going to be

2099
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 6: comparable to the non taxman level exception, which is basically

2100
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:00,000
Speaker 6: the average players salary here. So it's it's a great

2101
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 6: deal right now, it will be the deal will be

2102
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 6: fine when he when it comes to cuation two years

2103
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:08,320
Speaker 6: from now. Now they get him on the contract for

2104
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 6: about four years.

2105
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 1: How big a challenge is it for teams too? You know?

2106
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: In other words, I realized that that playing the rules

2107
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:21,120
Speaker 1: of the salary cap, that's one thing, right. But but

2108
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 1: but managing as Indiana is doing, Bobby, And you tell

2109
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:25,880
Speaker 1: me if I'm off base here, But it seems as

2110
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:29,240
Speaker 1: though Indiana is being very strategic and making sure that

2111
02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:34,560
Speaker 1: they are aligning contracts to get players in prime at

2112
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 1: the same time already locked in and not having to

2113
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:39,280
Speaker 1: deal with it, right how rare is it to be

2114
02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:40,200
Speaker 1: able to pull that off.

2115
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:42,480
Speaker 6: That's a great point. I mean, I think you know,

2116
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 6: it's funny when when these new rules came into play

2117
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago, you know, everyone had pointed

2118
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:52,080
Speaker 6: to as a team that if there was a blueprint how.

2119
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 7: To build a roster.

2120
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 6: So let's remove Oklahoma City from the equation a little bit,

2121
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,360
Speaker 6: but to build a roster where you have, yeah, your

2122
02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:01,640
Speaker 6: two main guys with Hay recent Pascal, and then you

2123
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Speaker 6: have everyone that kind of fills in. Now, the question

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Speaker 6: was going to be what happens when you had to

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Speaker 6: pay players, whether it be Benedict matherin a year from

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Speaker 6: now and when contract came up. And they've done a

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Speaker 6: they've done a really good job. I mean they've they've

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Speaker 6: been extra aggressive with extensions. When you look at Nie

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Speaker 6: Smith and them, Hart Halliburt and McConnell all signing deals.

2130
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Speaker 6: And what the CBA does is prioritize your own players,

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Speaker 6: and there's kind of a pecking order from a salary perspective,

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Speaker 6: and they've done a good job from a from a

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Speaker 6: now standpoint, but also looking forward to, like in you know,

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Speaker 6: the next two to three.

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Speaker 1: Years, Bobby as you look at it with the pacers,

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Speaker 1: and there are a couple of other players I had

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Speaker 1: questions about, but I wanted your thought on this, knowing

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Speaker 1: that Halliburton is out, knowing that Turner now is in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: If you were Indiana we were talking about this earlier,

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Speaker 1: would you take this year as look, we're still going

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Speaker 1: to try to just maintain same high level so that

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Speaker 1: there's not as much a drop off. Or do you

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Speaker 1: take advantage of this year by seeing what you have

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Speaker 1: on a Johnny Furphy, by analyzing furthermore where Jaris Walker is,

2145
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 1: by getting more minutes from Ben Shepherd, et cetera.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know, especially with Rick, I think

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02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 6: you're you're probably going to see a little bit of

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Speaker 6: a longer leash with with some of those younger players,

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02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 6: the bench players that maybe the opportunity wouldn't be there

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Speaker 6: if you still had mild and Tyrish was health here.

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02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:36,200
Speaker 6: And I think that's that's the beauty of it. When

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02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 6: there's nobody that's really expecting much from you. I think

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Speaker 6: in the Eastern Conference, it allows, especially this year, that

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Speaker 6: it will allow you to stay in it and then

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Speaker 6: you can kind of evaluate where your roster is going

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02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:51,080
Speaker 6: to be probably some time in January February here, But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I do think it's going to be an opportunity. I

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Speaker 6: think the one I would say my one concern would

2159
02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 6: be your your your your depth at the guard position,

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Speaker 6: especially with the McConnell injury. You know, somebody you relied

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Speaker 6: a lot on last year, and you know I was

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02:05:08,920 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 6: looking at with them Hart. You know, he's never averaged

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Speaker 6: a year where he's averaged more than thirty minutes per game,

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Speaker 6: and I think there's gonna be a little bit of

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Speaker 6: a workload him.

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Speaker 7: So your death is.

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Speaker 6: Going to be important as far as you know, how

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Speaker 6: this team goes this year, especially at the guard position.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised they did not offer extension to Benedict

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Speaker 1: Madaren And do you believe he will be a coveted

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Speaker 1: player if he hits free agency?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wasn't surprised. I think for if you're Indiana

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02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 6: and you're gonna see it this year, I mean it's

2174
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Speaker 6: kind of you know, it's gonna go one way or another.

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Speaker 6: I think there's an expanded role for him with the injuries,

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02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 6: whether it be starting or play significant minutes coming off

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Speaker 6: the bench. So I wasn't I wasn't totally surprised that

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Speaker 6: there wasn't a deal. And you know, don I always

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Speaker 6: say Ricky extension is the hardest things because from from

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Speaker 6: the team perspective, you're not competing against anybody. It's just

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02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 6: the Monday late in the day here. So I think

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Speaker 6: when he gets into restricted free agency, we saw this

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02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 6: past year that became pretty daunting for where the Josh

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Speaker 6: Gitties and Quinton Grimes and Cam Thomas and Jonathan Kaminga.

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02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:18,320
Speaker 6: The market does get a little bit better next year,

2186
02:06:18,600 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 6: but we haven't seen you know, we haven't seen a

2187
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Speaker 6: team come in with a significant offer sheet in like,

2188
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:26,839
Speaker 6: you know, three or four years here. That might change,

2189
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 6: but we'll see, well, you know that's Indiana will have

2190
02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:32,600
Speaker 6: to weigh that when he gets into restricted free agency.

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Speaker 1: Jade and Ivy, were you surprised by the fact that

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02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 1: Detroit did not extend him.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't because he's just had his knee scope. He

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Speaker 6: came when he's coming off that injury.

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Speaker 1: Last year.

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Speaker 6: He just had the knee scope here. I think you

2197
02:06:47,320 --> 02:06:50,120
Speaker 6: know him and Dorian, you know, as far as two

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Speaker 6: guys at work extension eligible, here's a team that is

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Speaker 6: expecting a lot out of especially for what they did

2200
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 6: last year. So no surprise with with the IVY no extension.

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Speaker 1: Who could be this year's Indiana in the East?

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Speaker 6: Ooh, that's a good question. You know, I'm pretty high

2203
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 6: in Toronto. I think the Raptors are intriguing to me

2204
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,480
Speaker 6: just because they went out and got Brandon Ingram at

2205
02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:15,000
Speaker 6: the deadline. We never we haven't seen Brandon Ingram since

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02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:18,000
Speaker 6: the days and New Orleans and your returner roster that

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02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 6: has Scottie Barnes and r J Barrett and Emanuel quickly

2208
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 6: that Jacob Parnell that hasn't been relatively healthy here. They've

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Speaker 6: got the talent. I don't want to say, you know

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02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 6: a team that can get to the Eastern Conference finals

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02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:32,240
Speaker 6: or an NBA finals, but I do think they have

2212
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 6: the talent that they can sneak up on teams.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Lastly, Bobby marks our guest ESPN. He's on the

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Speaker 1: Java House Peel and Port guest line. Lastly, Bobby Indiana.

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Speaker 1: At least from the Indiana standpoint, it felt like Rick

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02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 1: Carlisle's offense, the style that Indiana played and the pacing

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02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:54,480
Speaker 1: and the wide open shooting ability they had suddenly became

2218
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:56,720
Speaker 1: like a like a game changer to the league. I

2219
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:58,919
Speaker 1: mean they were kind of a trendsetter in the pacing

2220
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 1: in which they played. Can they sustain that and does

2221
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the league catch on to it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you can sustain it. I think you

2223
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:09,800
Speaker 6: have an identity as far as certainly from from an

2224
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 6: offensive standpoint here, the parts of the roster, of course

2225
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 6: have changed. That's going to be the big question.

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02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:18,680
Speaker 7: As far as who you plug in.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not talking about mem Hart or or Ben

2228
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:27,760
Speaker 6: Shepherd or you know players like that, but that that's

2229
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 6: going to be the big thing is as far as

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Speaker 6: who who basically comes into an expanding role. Is going

2231
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 6: today a bill to accept that different offensive responsibility.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, appreciate the time as always, Man, it'll be here

2233
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 1: before we know it Thursday night. From the Indiana standpoint,

2234
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 1: Pacers and Thunder getting things underway, and then we will

2235
02:08:47,440 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 1: be right into the thick of the NBA season. Appreciate

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02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 1: the time you got, Thanks, guys, Appreciate it. Bobby Mark's

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02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 1: joining us from ESPN on the Java House, Peel and

2238
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Speaker 1: poor guest line. Interesting stuff there, especially Toronto. That one

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02:08:58,440 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 1: surprised me a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot what about them? Jane?

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people. Did you know why?

2242
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,480
Speaker 1: Caught in Blue Jays Mania? Like, I was up till

2243
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:09,840
Speaker 1: literally five am, five am. I don't know if i Eddie,

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02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you this, but I have had a

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02:09:14,640 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 1: bottle of.

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Speaker 2: Scotch no wine or no, are you a wine guy?

2247
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:23,440
Speaker 2: I'm allergic to wine. Oh that's right, weird.

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02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 1: I've had a bottle that I've been waiting to crack open,

2249
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:29,839
Speaker 1: and I was going to wait to the World Series.

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Speaker 1: But I did it last night. I did it last night, celebrating.

2251
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 1: Was up late three forty eight in the morning, thought

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02:09:38,080 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: to myself, pain, what not Champagne. I don't know if

2253
02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's not but Champagne. Actually, no, no, Brandy.

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02:09:44,160 --> 02:09:48,520
Speaker 1: Brandy is actually a certain kind of liqueur, but specific

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Speaker 1: to the Brandy region. I think that might Champagne might

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02:09:51,200 --> 02:09:53,400
Speaker 1: be That might be true as well. Champagne is just

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02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:55,120
Speaker 1: wine with bubbles, right, Isn't that right?

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02:09:56,000 --> 02:09:57,920
Speaker 2: Doesn't Champagne have to be from like Italy?

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02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:01,080
Speaker 1: I think Champagne has to be France, right from the

2260
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:03,720
Speaker 1: Champagne region. Actually, I think it's brandy that has to

2261
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,400
Speaker 1: be from the Brandy region. But nonetheless, I digress. So

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02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,360
Speaker 1: last night, I've been waiting forever. I'm a diehard Blue

2263
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,560
Speaker 1: Jays fan. I have been for nearly eight weeks. I

2264
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 1: loved him as a kid, loved the mid eighties teams,

2265
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 1: loved the nineties teams. Don't call me bandwagon though, right,

2266
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 1: And as you know, Eddie, I am partial to the

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02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:27,040
Speaker 1: Roots clothing store. Unfortunately, I had a beautiful light blue

2268
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:30,560
Speaker 1: Roots T shirt that just says Roots Canada and that

2269
02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:33,880
Speaker 1: didn't survive the great purge that I had five years ago.

2270
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:37,240
Speaker 1: So there's some guy walking around her a gal somewhere

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02:10:37,280 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 1: wearing it, which is cool, right, I'm happy with that.

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Speaker 1: But last night, during my celebration by myself, mind you,

2273
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:46,240
Speaker 1: because no one else I know cares about the Blue Jays,

2274
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:51,839
Speaker 1: hold on worst bou bou was there, okay, but thickened

2275
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:57,280
Speaker 1: to the catnip okay. Oh yeah, so my statue on

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02:10:57,320 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 1: the waist. So I'm celebrating right last night, And I've

2277
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Speaker 1: had this bottle that I've been holding on to for years,

2278
02:11:04,360 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 1: just specifically for a Blue Jays celebration, and I was

2279
02:11:07,160 --> 02:11:09,720
Speaker 1: going to wait to the World Series, but I decided

2280
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 1: to crack it open last night and half the I

2281
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 1: went through half the bottle. Oh wow, half the bottle

2282
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 1: pure maple syrup.

2283
02:11:18,760 --> 02:11:21,920
Speaker 2: Really, and let me tell you, is that why I

2284
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:24,440
Speaker 2: heard like the sticky noises coming over there when you're

2285
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 2: trying to.

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Speaker 1: Type of the well listen, now we're getting into some others,

2287
02:11:30,080 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 1: but no here and here's the thing. Did have a

2288
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 1: bit of a sugar crash, fell asleep for about an

2289
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:37,000
Speaker 1: hour and a half from that and then woke up

2290
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 1: and stomach a little sensitive. But the maple syrup is fabulous,

2291
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Speaker 1: and I mean literally just.

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Speaker 2: Like Buddy the ELFs you put it on your chocolate

2293
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Speaker 2: spaghetti with the.

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Speaker 1: Fastest poor but it was great. Nonetheless, J ANDB is in.

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Speaker 1: I believe he's got a pretty awesome guest on the

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Speaker 1: program today speaking at college basketball and the Number one

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Speaker 1: because somebody points out that perhaps shock doctor, that those

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Speaker 1: bags were made by Ogo and therefore it could be

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Speaker 1: under warranty. I'm telling you, like, I'm a weird one

2307
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Speaker 1: Eddie in the fact that.

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Speaker 2: Well we already know if you're a weird one shake,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to have been that.

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Speaker 1: If there's a product or like something that I like,

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Speaker 1: I'm all in and like, these bags are awesome, except

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Speaker 1: for like the material of the bag. I mean, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: But my cousin and I when we were I was

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Speaker 1: rolling my bag through the airport and he was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I think you got a flat tire over there. And

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02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 1: literally I had the one wheel that was like and

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02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:04,640
Speaker 1: once you hear that when you're pulling the bag through

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02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 1: like the marble floor of an airport, you never unhear it.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what. We went grocery shopping on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yea, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: The quietest cart I think I've ever pushed, not a heap.

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Speaker 1: You know they now have the carts with the magic

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Speaker 1: security wheel. You know about this, Oh yes, yes, it'll

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Speaker 1: it'll lock up on you. So I had recently I was.

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Speaker 1: I was shoplift, huh, but I had a huge item

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Speaker 1: on the bottom of the cart, and they checked to

2329
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 1: make sure that you're not doing that. So as I was,

2330
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Speaker 1: and I'm walking out, just humming along, and that bad boy.

2331
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Speaker 1: So they have for those that are unfamiliar, they have

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Speaker 1: a camera up above. And then there's a guy. There's

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Speaker 1: a guy. And my understanding is, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: this for certain, but I've been told Judo, Alaska is

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02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,280
Speaker 1: where this guy lives. And he's got a monitor all

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Speaker 1: around him and he does nothing that watches He's up

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Speaker 1: in the sky.

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Speaker 2: Right, do you know that?

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02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:03,360
Speaker 1: What's that?

2340
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:05,200
Speaker 2: Do you know that?

2341
02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,919
Speaker 1: But well played, it's the Capitol.

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Speaker 2: Do you know that? I didn't know that.

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02:14:09,960 --> 02:14:13,080
Speaker 1: So at any rate, this fella is sitting there watching it.

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02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:16,320
Speaker 1: And when you're leaving, if you have something on the

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02:14:16,360 --> 02:14:20,080
Speaker 1: bottom of the cart, he radios down to the different

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Speaker 1: places around the globe. That's exactly right. He lets people

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02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:25,840
Speaker 1: he talks too.

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Speaker 2: Him for sixty four and Indianapolis sent to your local

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02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:31,400
Speaker 2: whatever on your thirty third street.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. So I'm humming out, just walking along, cruising,

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02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:40,280
Speaker 1: mind of my own business, right, just cruising along. Listen,

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02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:46,480
Speaker 1: to my favorite tune. And he's gonna say, this package

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02:14:46,520 --> 02:14:48,880
Speaker 1: on the bottom of his shopping cart. And here's the thing.

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02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:53,320
Speaker 1: He has the ability to lock your wheel. And it's

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02:14:53,480 --> 02:14:57,080
Speaker 1: just one of them. So all of a sudden, you're

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02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:59,960
Speaker 1: moving along and then one wheel goes funny on you.

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02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:02,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding you, it's a health risk. I

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02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 1: almost went flying over the cart. I'm like, what in

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02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:07,360
Speaker 1: the world could.

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02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:09,880
Speaker 2: You imagine if like this family of five, or a

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02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:12,400
Speaker 2: family of four, let's say, for it's mom, dad, two kids.

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02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:14,080
Speaker 2: They're letting one of the kids push it's like ten

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02:15:14,120 --> 02:15:15,480
Speaker 2: years old, and you get in there. Yes, you know,

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02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:16,200
Speaker 2: there's nobody in the.

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02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:21,200
Speaker 1: Talk it's a kid takes off. Yes, they need airbags

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02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:24,400
Speaker 1: on these things. I mean I and I'm like, what

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02:15:24,520 --> 02:15:27,200
Speaker 1: in the world. And then this this woman comes out

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02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:30,680
Speaker 1: and says, the eye in the sky sees that you have.

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02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:33,320
Speaker 1: I think it was Is it a bottled water? A

2370
02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:33,920
Speaker 1: kitty litter?

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02:15:34,000 --> 02:15:35,760
Speaker 2: So hold on, we can get eye in the sky

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02:15:35,920 --> 02:15:38,320
Speaker 2: for a local grocery store, but we can't get this

2373
02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:40,880
Speaker 2: in the freaking NFL. What are we doing here? Yes,

2374
02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:42,240
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

2375
02:15:43,480 --> 02:15:47,680
Speaker 1: You can get you can get grocery carts with wheels

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02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:49,680
Speaker 1: that are locked by a guy in Juno. But you

2377
02:15:49,720 --> 02:15:51,960
Speaker 1: apparently can't find somebody that could fix my go funny

2378
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:56,200
Speaker 1: wheel on my luggage. That's my thing, right, Yeah? What's

2379
02:15:56,240 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 1: on the big game plan for you tonight, Eddie?

2380
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:00,360
Speaker 2: Today is two Tuesday?

2381
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:01,240
Speaker 1: Right it is?

2382
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure what I've got planned for tonight.

2383
02:16:05,320 --> 02:16:07,880
Speaker 2: That sounds exciting. I'll probably watch the kickoff of the

2384
02:16:07,960 --> 02:16:11,760
Speaker 2: NBA season if I'm not probably truthfully here, You've got

2385
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:13,760
Speaker 2: two games to night, both on Peacock.

2386
02:16:13,840 --> 02:16:16,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess the pairings that

2387
02:16:16,040 --> 02:16:18,680
Speaker 1: they are giving us. You ready, yes, yes, yes, yes.

2388
02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:22,720
Speaker 1: I will go with the Los Angeles Lakers.

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02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:24,320
Speaker 2: That is one of the four teams playing.

2390
02:16:24,440 --> 02:16:27,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I will go with the Golden State Warriors, that is.

2391
02:16:27,240 --> 02:16:29,200
Speaker 2: Two of the four teams that are playing tonight.

2392
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:34,080
Speaker 1: I will go with the Boston Celtics.

2393
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,000
Speaker 2: That is not one of the four teams playing tonight.

2394
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:37,800
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder that is.

2395
02:16:37,800 --> 02:16:39,480
Speaker 2: Three of the four teams playing tonight.

2396
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 1: Memphis Grizzlies. Negative, is this a team that are these

2397
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:52,320
Speaker 1: all interconference games? They are all four Western Conference teams? Yes,

2398
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 1: so I'm missing one I have. I'm guessing Golden State

2399
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:58,320
Speaker 1: plays the Lakers, right, that is correct, that is the nightcap,

2400
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:00,840
Speaker 1: and then Oklahoma City, I'm gonna say is playing the

2401
02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:06,080
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks no Houston Rockets, that is correct. Okay, h

2402
02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:07,600
Speaker 1: Dallas is going to be really good.

2403
02:17:07,640 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 2: By the way, that'll be a fun one. That'll be

2404
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:11,199
Speaker 2: a fun team to watch, especially when they get Kyrie

2405
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:12,119
Speaker 2: back into the mix.

2406
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:16,920
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag gonna play point point flag. Honestly, that's that's

2407
02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:18,800
Speaker 1: like the rumor, right, is that Jason Kidd is going

2408
02:17:18,840 --> 02:17:20,760
Speaker 1: to go that route in terms of the point guard play.

2409
02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if I want him being my

2410
02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:24,760
Speaker 2: point guard. There were times last year at Duke where

2411
02:17:26,120 --> 02:17:28,800
Speaker 2: he would have trouble handling the basketball fair and that

2412
02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:29,960
Speaker 2: was against college kids.

2413
02:17:29,959 --> 02:17:32,039
Speaker 1: And I mean he's what is he night? Is he

2414
02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:32,720
Speaker 1: twenty now?

2415
02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:34,520
Speaker 2: He's something around that age, Joe.

2416
02:17:34,560 --> 02:17:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty remarkable. His level of skill and

2417
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:41,879
Speaker 1: you know, what he can do is pretty remarkable and impressed.

2418
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:45,320
Speaker 2: James is your host here? He was, Oh he was here?

2419
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:51,880
Speaker 1: That mean he leave studio oh tomorrow on the program.

2420
02:17:51,879 --> 02:17:54,879
Speaker 1: By the way. Elliott Bloom, who I believe is going

2421
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:57,120
Speaker 1: to or I know what he is, he's, you know,

2422
02:17:57,160 --> 02:18:00,119
Speaker 1: with basketball ops for Purdue, gonna join us. I think

2423
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:04,200
Speaker 1: tomorrow Matt Painter is going to join John today. So

2424
02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:06,200
Speaker 1: plenty of talk about Purdue, but that's what happens when

2425
02:18:06,200 --> 02:18:08,879
Speaker 1: you are number one in the country. Ralph Reef will

2426
02:18:08,920 --> 02:18:12,680
Speaker 1: be joining us on Thursday on the show and will

2427
02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:13,600
Speaker 1: probably do more.

2428
02:18:13,760 --> 02:18:16,080
Speaker 2: Just here he comes, Heja.

2429
02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:18,920
Speaker 1: Celebration, talking more and more about my Blue Jays and

2430
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:21,760
Speaker 1: the thrill and excitement. John has arrived.

2431
02:18:21,800 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 2: John.

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02:18:22,040 --> 02:18:25,400
Speaker 1: What time for Coach Painter today? Five o'clock for Coach Painter.

2433
02:18:25,480 --> 02:18:27,640
Speaker 1: You know, I think Eddie needs to start playing either

2434
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:32,040
Speaker 1: is it EPMD with the crossover? Yeah, a hip hop

2435
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:35,760
Speaker 1: song or Bone Thugs in Crossroads something like that when

2436
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:38,720
Speaker 1: we come on. If you could equal to get that

2437
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:43,720
Speaker 1: happening little production value. I am a fan by the way,

2438
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:46,680
Speaker 1: the EPMD me too. Eric Sermon was in studio with

2439
02:18:46,720 --> 02:18:49,160
Speaker 1: me like I was going to get some more dead Presidents, really.

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02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:53,360
Speaker 9: With DJ the late great DJ Indiana Jones Broughdy men.

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02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:55,520
Speaker 1: Studio with me. I probably have told you this story

2442
02:18:55,600 --> 02:18:58,600
Speaker 1: no fewer than five thousand times, but still one of

2443
02:18:58,640 --> 02:19:02,080
Speaker 1: the more surreal moments of my life was my junior

2444
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:04,360
Speaker 1: year in high school when Rap City. Did you ever

2445
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:07,320
Speaker 1: watch Rap City with City on USA? Yeah? Oh no,

2446
02:19:07,440 --> 02:19:09,080
Speaker 1: Rap City was on bt BT.

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02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:09,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2448
02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:12,840
Speaker 1: So the mayor in Rap City did their show from

2449
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:16,800
Speaker 1: North Central High School with Big Daddy Kane and Third Base.

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02:19:16,959 --> 02:19:20,000
Speaker 1: That's great. It was unbelievable walking out of school and

2451
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:22,600
Speaker 1: it's like I was like Spaccoli in the hospital, like

2452
02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:24,520
Speaker 1: you staying at Why I am now and just sat

2453
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:27,879
Speaker 1: there and watched and they came out. The Third Base

2454
02:19:27,920 --> 02:19:30,039
Speaker 1: came out and gave the principal the gas face. It

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02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:34,959
Speaker 1: was very surreal. You know what EPMD means, uh is

2456
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:41,160
Speaker 1: an Erican parish making dollars? Right? Correct? Well done, Well done, Jake?

2457
02:19:41,400 --> 02:19:42,160
Speaker 2: Did I love it?

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02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:42,240
Speaker 5: No?

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02:19:42,400 --> 02:19:46,279
Speaker 9: Eric Seriman was in studio. That's Eric of Eric Parrish

2460
02:19:46,320 --> 02:19:49,080
Speaker 9: making dollars. But I've had MC Search on the show

2461
02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:51,720
Speaker 9: before Search. Great Pete Nice was on the show and

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02:19:51,760 --> 02:19:54,280
Speaker 9: that's they didn't like one another at that time. I

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02:19:54,360 --> 02:19:57,039
Speaker 9: did Willie d Once from the Ghetto Boys, that's awesome,

2464
02:19:57,080 --> 02:19:59,160
Speaker 9: and he said on the air. Don't get me wrong,

2465
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:01,080
Speaker 9: I didn't blow anybody his house up, but I know

2466
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:05,520
Speaker 9: people that did. Ghetto Boys the most underrated hip hop

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02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:06,320
Speaker 9: band of all time.

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02:20:06,760 --> 02:20:10,040
Speaker 1: He's great, great, all right, John's up next. We will

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02:20:10,040 --> 02:20:11,760
Speaker 1: be back with you at noon tomorrow. And I think

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Speaker 1: you're listening to a Quarry and Company