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Speaker 1: Colts camp up here at Grand Park in Westfield. It

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Speaker 1: is day number one practices in the books that went

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Speaker 1: from ten until just after eleven o'clock and joining us

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Speaker 1: now here in Grand Park. He is entering his fourth

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce, that this is year number four for you,

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Speaker 1: but good to see again, let's begin right to it. Actually,

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Speaker 1: just in terms of getting that first practice under the belt,

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Speaker 1: how to go today.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, you know, I think it was, you know,

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Speaker 2: as expected first practice. I feel like a low rusty everybody,

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Speaker 2: you know, just definitely have a lot to improve on.

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Speaker 2: But you know that's what camp's for, going to look

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Speaker 2: at the tape, you know, and just continue to get

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Speaker 2: better on things worth timing, just you know, small details stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, your position is an interesting one because to me,

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Speaker 1: when you look in the NFL in general, and certainly

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Speaker 1: sometimes that we have to be the most patient with guys,

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Speaker 1: and I think you've showed that because in your rookie year,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're admittedly there were a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Then we started to see what can happen when you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a lot a lot different, I

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Speaker 2: terms of like knowing what to do, which routes to run,

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Speaker 2: Like I think I didn't run a tough like the

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Speaker 2: It definitely is like truly an art and I think

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Speaker 1: What point, if you look back at the first three years,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I always say when you start a new job, you

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's definitely, that's definitely a challenge. I try

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I know, especially especially for me,

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Speaker 1: How much in the NFL is like Sandlote football, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Like how much do you ever have plays where you know,

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Speaker 3: Let's just go with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we very much at all do that.

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Speaker 1: It's what is the difference between catching a pass from

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Speaker 1: they hit you, Yeah, tell me the difference of the two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say. Honestly, I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: Alex Pierce is our guest. Colts Camp getting underway today.

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Speaker 1: We're at Grand Park up here in Westfield. A big

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Speaker 1: year for you obviously, from let's be real a financial

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Speaker 3: The mindset of that as a professionals.

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Speaker 2: What I mean for me, everything's always been just taking

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Speaker 2: continue to prove to the coaches, prove to the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: proved to myself. You know, just earn more reps, earn

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Speaker 1: But if you look at it, so you've started forty

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and twenty four yards, you know, seven touchdowns. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: I think at that point it's like, Okay, Alec Pierce

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Speaker 3: Let's get this done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there's a lot of a

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but at the same time, I'm not trying

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Speaker 3: But but from your.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm sure that would that would

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Speaker 2: I look at things, you earn your keep, You earn

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Speaker 1: By the way, you look like you've been running like

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm outside all the time, so that that

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Speaker 2: Usually would hit the field first and then go lift

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Speaker 3: What is the in all honesty? Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 1: What is the off season regiment especially for a receiver, right,

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Speaker 3: What sport was it?

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Speaker 2: He probably said golf? He did, he said golf. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't we don't have the we don't have

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Speaker 3: Best ball players have no excuse. You got that like

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Speaker 2: Yeah you can't. You can't. The thing about football, that's

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Speaker 2: like I don't. I don't even know what would happen

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Speaker 3: You can wear it down?

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Speaker 2: Can you can wear something about that?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, Like, like you look at the NBA and the

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Speaker 3: Now, Is that the dumbest thing you've ever heard? Or

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm not, but I'm the doctor. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: Your brothers a basketball player. Lastly, did you at least

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, I'm fully on the pace Is Bend wagon. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: These past two years been super fun. Got an opportunity

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Speaker 3: So you know those guys at all.

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Speaker 2: I don't know them a ton I've met. I met

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Speaker 2: I wasn't playing with them, but I've I've heard that. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Really you have as a martial artist, you know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know he sounds like he's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: So you have to ask him about it if you

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Speaker 1: James Johnson's in the same situation as you. Right, there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so is he a free agent right now?

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Speaker 3: He is, Well, he's got to bring the rosters full

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Speaker 1: James Johnson is a guy for the Pacers. He's one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that player for the Colts is who.

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Speaker 2: Taekwon Lewis, Maybe Taekwon Lewis or I'm trying to think

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Speaker 2: would say Ashton Doling, But I mean I think ash

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Speaker 2: is very important to our team and a lot of aspects.

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Speaker 2: Also a jack of all trades guy, right, yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: So there you go. It could be Ashton Dolon kind

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Speaker 2: of you know, kind of the thankless jobs and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I know that that's a guy that if

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Speaker 2: you really really know football and you really watch the

446
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Speaker 2: tape he's one of the best at what he does

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So a year ago, three hundred or excuse me, eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four yards, thirty seven catches over the

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Speaker 1: course of the year, seven touchdowns and again entering.

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Speaker 3: Year number four.

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Speaker 1: Hard to believe that for Alec Pearce, Aleck, appreciate the time, certainly,

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Speaker 1: wish you the best of luck in camp and most importantly.

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Speaker 3: Good health to you.

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Speaker 1: And then the contract status as well, that's luck on

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Speaker 1: how that plays out.

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Speaker 3: We'd love to have you stick around.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce here on the program, joining us now on

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Speaker 1: the always busy and once again available to be sponsored

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Speaker 1: guest line. He is our friend for the Indianapolis Star.

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Speaker 1: He is the athletic beat writer for INDIAA University. Talking

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Speaker 1: about Zach Osterman. Osterman that joins us, although we now

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Speaker 1: know it's Osterman because we have the recording of it.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, right, Eddie, if you hit that, that.

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Speaker 3: Is correct, Yeah, Zach joining us now.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to Zach, Kurt Signetti and his comments

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Speaker 1: yesterday and how it relates to the SEC for Indiana Football.

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Speaker 1: So terically speaking, I will simply say I did not

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Speaker 1: know until recently that Liverpool, England is amongst your favorite

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Speaker 1: cities in the world, and after having visited there, I

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Speaker 1: concur entirely it is really nice and I was surprised.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I mentioned this when I came back,

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Speaker 1: but the stereotype, like from the Beatles era of Liverpool,

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Speaker 1: and certainly this might have been the case in the

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Speaker 1: early sixties, was that it's like this gritty, bloody knuckled,

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Speaker 1: blue collar shipping yard town, and yet a lot of

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Speaker 1: the neighborhoods of it, to me, reminded me of the

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Speaker 1: near north side of like Meridian, Kessler, or even Lockerby

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Speaker 1: area of Indianapolis. I thought it was extremely quaint, friendly

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Speaker 1: and it was a day like today when I was there,

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Speaker 1: so it was very, very pretty.

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Speaker 3: I thought, really really a cool town. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and people I think will know I'm a

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Speaker 5: fan of Liverpool Football Club and that's obviously kind of

487
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Speaker 5: how I found the city. But I get a lot

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Speaker 5: more excited now when people tell me they're visiting Liverpool

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Speaker 5: than when they want to talk about the club, because

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of what you said there is

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Speaker 5: at least sort of broad strokes. True, it was a

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Speaker 5: very blue collar town. Obviously, was a very sort of

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Speaker 5: shipping heavy town for a lot of its modern history.

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Speaker 5: But even then, you know, a lot of that wealth

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Speaker 5: was kind of centered in a small class and so

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Speaker 5: it's always had a real sort of working class part,

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Speaker 5: very defiant, very outward looking, which is kind of unusual

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Speaker 5: for the country of England. You know, for a long time,

499
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Speaker 5: English policy was to make the world England. Liverpool is

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Speaker 5: never really never really felt that way. It's always reflected

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Speaker 5: the world much more so than its own country, and

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Speaker 5: you get that from just the wonderful blend of cultures.

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Speaker 5: There's incredible food, incredible nightlife, incredible architecture right there on

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Speaker 5: the river, so you have you know, just right there,

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Speaker 5: well not just on the river, but if you go

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Speaker 5: just a little bit north on the sea as well.

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Speaker 5: And it's not too big, so it's very walkable. People

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Speaker 5: are very friendly. It's very easy to have a great

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Speaker 5: night out in Liverpool. It's I mean, I went over

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Speaker 5: for a match in twenty seventeen and I always tell

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Speaker 5: people I went over for a football match and I

512
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Speaker 5: came back in love with the city. So anybody who

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Speaker 5: needs it. I know there are Disney planners out there.

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Speaker 5: Anybody who needs a Liverpool planner, I'm your man. I've

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Speaker 5: already got I'm already I'm already formulating for a buddy

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Speaker 5: who's covering the British Open next year at Robe Birkdale.

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Speaker 5: So I'm already the wheels are already in motion for

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Speaker 5: that when I'm happy to get anybody else in Itinera.

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Speaker 3: If they need it. Yeah, it's cool. It's a very

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Speaker 3: cool town. All right. Let's get to what Kurt Signette

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Speaker 3: said yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I thought one of the things that was interesting and

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Speaker 1: I wanted you too, and I hope I'm not. You know,

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Speaker 1: we did not pre plan our conversation here, so but

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Speaker 1: it was via one of your stories, and I think

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Speaker 1: that I saw that Kurt Signetti said this. I thought

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti had an interesting comparison to Indiana football and

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Speaker 1: the SEC, and by that I mean Zach not necessarily

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Speaker 1: in where they are like competitiveness or whatever else, but

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Speaker 1: rather just in terms of formula and strategy of scheduling

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Speaker 1: and the way that Indiana. Because there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of discussion about the drop of Virginia on the schedule,

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Speaker 1: and I thought. Kurt Signetti made an interesting point when

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Speaker 1: talking about some of the elite level programs in college football,

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Speaker 1: and notably he pointed out the SEC the way that

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Speaker 1: they do things, and that he liked that blueprint. Can

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Speaker 1: you elaborate for our listeners on exactly what the strategy

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Speaker 1: is from Indiana's standpoint for scheduling.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So rewind back to twenty twenty three. This was

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Speaker 5: when Tom Allen is still the head coach. Indiana bought

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Speaker 5: out of the last two years of the series with Louisville,

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Speaker 5: and its reasoning was we'll make up the money and

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Speaker 5: then some by scheduling home games winnable home games, you know,

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Speaker 5: the games that have turned into fcs or maybe you know,

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Speaker 5: group of five home games. And at the time, Indiana

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Speaker 5: was pretty open about just saying, of course, you know,

547
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Speaker 5: expectations were different then that it was just trying to

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Speaker 5: create a path to being more consistently competitive, basically making

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Speaker 5: it easier to get into bowl games and to build

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Speaker 5: kind of a firmer foundation underneath the program and recognizing

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Speaker 5: that football success is kind of the ultimate form of

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Speaker 5: agency in modern college athletics. Scott Dalson knew he needed

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Speaker 5: to make it easier in a nine game Big Ten

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Speaker 5: schedule world, or it said football coach to map out

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Speaker 5: a postseason past fast forward to where we are now,

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Speaker 5: no one would have seen Indiana become a playoff contender,

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Speaker 5: a playoff participant, and therefore, you know, kind of a

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Speaker 5: bit of a I don't know, I guess in some

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Speaker 5: places a straw man or a punzie bag because of

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Speaker 5: Indiana's scheduling philosophy. He Signetti was asked about it, I

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Speaker 5: think in a sort of widely public way for the

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Speaker 5: first time yesterday, because recently Indiana also bought out of

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Speaker 5: a two year series with Virginia, which was further.

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Speaker 3: On the line.

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Speaker 5: Indiana also dropped a trip to Yukon off its schedule

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Speaker 5: a few months ago as well, and Signetti said that

567
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Speaker 5: philosophy predated me, but I signed off on it when

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Speaker 5: I came in because I think it makes sense. A

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Speaker 5: lot of the criticism has come from our friends down south,

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Speaker 5: who have I think been I think probably turned to

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Speaker 5: Indiana into a bit of a lightning rod for their

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Speaker 5: complaints about the Big Ten of the playoffs. Just in general,

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Speaker 5: we don't have to rehash all of the nine win

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Speaker 5: Alabama versus eleven win Indiana from from last fall for

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Speaker 5: everyone to kind of remember that. You know, the SEC

576
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Speaker 5: seemed to sort of chafe at the idea of an

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Speaker 5: interloper without as many signature wins, you know, jumping over

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Speaker 5: an Ole Miss team that lost to Kentucky or an

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Speaker 5: Alabama team that lost to Vanderbilt, and SEC. You know,

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Speaker 5: critics and the SEC and elsewhere have said, you're not

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Speaker 5: challenging yourself at all in a non conference you know,

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Speaker 5: that's that's that's weak, that's cowardly scheduling. Kurt Signetti's point

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Speaker 5: is the SEC only played eight conference games.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Culturally, the SEC is resisted going to nine, in part

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Speaker 5: because there are, unlike the Big Tent, a lot of

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Speaker 5: historical rivalries that are out of conference. Georgia plays Georgia Tech,

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Speaker 5: Florida places Florida State. You know, South Carolina plays Clemson, Kentucky,

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Speaker 5: Louisville and so forth. But Signetti's point is, that's just

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Speaker 5: an ninth Power five game or Power four game on

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Speaker 5: your schedule. We already played nine, because we play a

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Speaker 5: nine game conference schedule. We're already where you're going to

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Speaker 5: just by playing these rivalry games or just by setting

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Speaker 5: up you know, maybe a non conference game Texas Michigan

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Speaker 5: or something like that. And the point he made, excuse me,

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Speaker 5: the point he made is if you look at the

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Speaker 5: other three games on the average SEC non conference schedule,

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Speaker 5: they look just like what Indiana's non conference schedule looks

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Speaker 5: like and what Indiana's strategy looks like. And he dropped

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Speaker 5: that Stignetti kind of one line or about we thought

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Speaker 5: we'd just go in an SEC scheduling philosophy. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know that there's a little bit of the Steve

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Speaker 5: Spurrier in that. We know Signetti likes a touch of

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Speaker 5: dry humor. But his point was we're already playing nine

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Speaker 5: Power five games. You play nine. The average SEC school

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Speaker 5: played nine Power five games too, and then does generally

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Speaker 5: what Indiana does with the other three games on its schedule.

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Speaker 5: And really what he was trying to say is, and

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Speaker 5: he articulated it well, and of course nobody listened to it,

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Speaker 5: because Twitter grabbed one sentence and went nuts, is there

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Speaker 5: is a need for scheduling uniformity across college football. And

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Speaker 5: there are different ways. That's all aside from kind of

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Speaker 5: meet in the middle on that. But as long as

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Speaker 5: we have some conferences that play eight and some that

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Speaker 5: play nine, and some that have, you know, this set

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Speaker 5: of priorities, and some that have this set of priorities,

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Speaker 5: and we don't know, we don't even have a settled

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Speaker 5: format for the playoffs. Everybody's just going to kind of

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Speaker 5: have to do what they think is best for them.

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Speaker 5: And his point was Indiana's schedule in the average year,

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Speaker 5: if you just wipe off you know, what games or

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Speaker 5: conference games and what games aren't, doesn't look that different

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Speaker 5: to the average SEC.

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Speaker 1: Schedule, you know when you think about it, Zach, Let's

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Speaker 1: let's be real here, if you were going to play

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Speaker 1: an outset like a Power five pre conference opponent, you

627
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Speaker 1: would almost have to make it. It's difficult to do

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Speaker 1: five to seven years out. I think that's the biggest challenge.

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Speaker 1: But whether you're Predue Indiana, whoever it may be, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: it be whoview to only schedule an opponent that if

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Speaker 1: you were to lose to them, it would not be

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Speaker 1: a demerit per se and hurt you really in terms

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Speaker 1: of your bull elegiit, you know, your bull standings or

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Speaker 1: seatings or even playoff contention. If you're Indiana or where

635
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Speaker 1: Purdue ultimately would like to be. But in other words,

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Speaker 1: like a Virginia and I admire it and appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and I liked having a Virginia on the schedule. But

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Speaker 1: the reality is if you beat Virginia, people go okay.

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Speaker 1: But if you lose to Virginia, then it's like WHOA

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Speaker 1: Like bad loss for the playoffs or whatever else.

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Speaker 3: But if you go with a Texas A and m

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Speaker 3: or A.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to think of another school that

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Speaker 1: you know falls into that same level of category.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, give me what you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 3: in other words, if you lose to them, it's not

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Speaker 3: a huge demerit.

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Speaker 5: Indiana's got a series on the books with Notre Dame

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Speaker 5: for I think it's twenty thirty and twenty thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect example.

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Speaker 5: Anything decided that far out for IU yet. But my

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Speaker 5: sense from asking around is there's a lot more appetite

653
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Speaker 5: to keep that on the schedule, right. I think to

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Speaker 5: the point that you're making, which is win or lose,

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Speaker 5: that is a game that has value if you are

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Speaker 5: trying to build a competitive resume, whether it's to make

657
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 5: the playoffs, whether it's just to be I mean, frankly

658
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: just to just to be a serious football team. You know,

659
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 5: eight to nine wins plus that is a game that

660
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 5: has value. To your point, you know, Virginia maybe would

661
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 5: in two or three years, maybe you wouldn't you know,

662
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 5: in Indiana scheduled that Louisville series. If I'm remember incorrectly,

663
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Speaker 5: it was right around the time Lamar Jackson was at Louisville,

664
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Speaker 5: So Louisville looked like a really formidable opponent. Then Louisville

665
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 5: kind of posts Lamar Jackson freightered under Bobby Petrino and

666
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 5: had to recycle some things and then gets Jeff brom

667
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 5: and now Louisville's on the upswing again. And if you know,

668
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 5: if Indiana had played like Scott centerfield Louisville, maybe that

669
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 5: means something. Maybe doesn't. On the other hand, if Indiana

670
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: had played and beaten Louisville on the road last season,

671
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: it would have meant something. It would have been something

672
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: very meaningful to their playoff resume. We probably wouldn't be

673
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 5: having this specific discussion. But that's the difference. That's why

674
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 5: the series, like Notre Dame, I think there's more appetite

675
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 5: for that than there is. Virginia certainly than there is,

676
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 5: you know, a Yukon on the road something like that. Now,

677
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: to your point, it's hard to make all those pieces

678
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 5: fit into place because you know, everybody wants to do

679
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 5: their schedule six seven, eight years out. Well, what happens

680
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: if you try to play I don't know ole Miss?

681
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 5: And right now ole Miss is a great program. But five, six,

682
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: seven years from now, Lane Kiffen has left for Alabama

683
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 5: and they've gotten a couple highers wrong, and ole Miss

684
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 5: has winning three games a year in the SEC, then

685
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 5: it suddenly doesn't feel quite so impactful. But then to

686
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 5: your point, you lose that game against the three win

687
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Speaker 5: SEC team and that really impacts your resume. So I

688
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: mean it's it's again. This is where we get back to.

689
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: As long as every conference is kind of looking out

690
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 5: for itself and doing its own thing, and the ACC

691
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Speaker 5: and SEC are at eight to Big twelve and the

692
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Speaker 5: Big ten or at nine, we're going to wind up

693
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Speaker 5: with these conflicting scheduling philosophies. And then and Christ talked

694
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Speaker 5: about this a little bit too. You're asking the selection

695
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Speaker 5: committee to judge teams from different conferences that have been

696
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 5: handed you know, markedly different paths to the college football

697
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: playoffs sort of, let's say bubble. You're asking the committee

698
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: to evaluate them the same way, it's a little bit

699
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 5: more difficult.

700
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Speaker 1: Zach Osterman is our guest from the Indianapolis Star talking

701
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Speaker 1: about Indiana football yesterday. Kurt Signetti talking to the media.

702
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Speaker 1: I'm curious of this, Zach. You know, a year ago,

703
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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti was and I understand it. You know, I

704
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: totally get why. Kurt Signetti had a bravada about him

705
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: and a confidence bordering on almost like an arrogance about him.

706
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: Arrogance probably the wrong word, but super confident. And then

707
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: everybody loved it because he backed it up.

708
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Speaker 3: I mean, it was great. He backed it up.

709
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: He backed it up with jmu and I think Indiana

710
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: needed that a year ago. Indiana needed that, and truthfully,

711
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Speaker 1: I thought that it got them to where they wanted

712
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Speaker 1: to go. And then, and this is probably just me

713
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: being over analytical, I thought he went to that well

714
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: won too many times. I thought the comments on the

715
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: college football game day on the field hours before the

716
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Indiana Notre Dame game, even though that would't have made

717
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: its way in the Notre name's locker room, but they

718
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: didn't need it.

719
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Speaker 3: At that point and he went to it.

720
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Speaker 1: He spun that wheel one too many times and it

721
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: kind of blew up on him. Did he in any way,

722
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: shape or form, appear to be different this year just

723
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Speaker 1: because he's done, he's turned the program around. He's got

724
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: him now, he's got them relevant. He doesn't need to

725
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: be that guy per se or is that just his nature?

726
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 5: No, I mean it's a bit of boa. Clifton and

727
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Speaker 5: I have made this comparison going back twelve months now again,

728
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Speaker 5: and I don't.

729
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

730
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: I'm not going to catch myself as the expert on

731
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 5: all things SEC football. But you know, I grew up

732
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 5: at the height of Steve Spurrier's Florida like that was

733
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 5: that was the SEC program. That was the program that

734
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 5: ran the SEC when I was ten, eleven, twelve years old.

735
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Speaker 5: And you know, they are different personalities in some ways.

736
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Speaker 5: But Steve Spurrier Kurt Signetti there needs, I think, always

737
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 5: to be a little bit of that edge and a

738
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: little bit of that sort of playful humor and a

739
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 5: little bit of that what we would call in more

740
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: modern parlance trash talking. And obviously the Spurrier ones are legendary.

741
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: You can't spell citrus bowl without ut and you know

742
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: the books that weren't even colored in at the Auburn

743
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: Library when it burned, and all these different things that

744
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 5: we can go through. I don't know if Signette's, you know,

745
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: got quite that catalog of one liners, but he does

746
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 5: have a part of it will always just be his

747
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 5: personality to be a little playful to drop. You know

748
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: that that comment yesterday about we figured we just adopt

749
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 5: an SEC scheduling philosophy, I think, knowing full well before

750
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Speaker 5: he said it what kind of reaction it was going

751
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 5: to provoke. But I have said this to other people.

752
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 5: I forget who first asked me this, but I said

753
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Speaker 5: this to somebody a couple weeks ago, where in general,

754
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Speaker 5: I don't think Signetti has been quite as bullish and

755
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: quite as.

756
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: Quotable this year.

757
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 5: And I think it is for the reason that you

758
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 5: just outlined, which is I think a year ago, even

759
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: if you rewind all the way back to the comments,

760
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 5: and he makes the night that he gets hired produce

761
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: sucks and all this, hope I'm allowed to say that,

762
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 5: I'm er forgive me, he said. He said later that

763
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: the reason he said that, the reason he kind of

764
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 5: got fired up on the micropront The way he did

765
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 5: was because his first day on the job, he was

766
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: walking around meeting different athletics officials, different people run the

767
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: football program, different people in the department in the university,

768
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Speaker 5: and everybody was just talking about we'd love to go

769
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: six and six, We'd love to be produced. And he

770
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: was thinking that is that is equally the wrong mentality,

771
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: and that's not how I do things. We're not here

772
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 5: to just be all right, We're not here to just

773
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 5: sort of like meet minimum expectations. I've got to start

774
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: resetting the way these people think about their football program.

775
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 5: And from that point forward you have the google me comment.

776
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 5: There's some things that he says that in spring, in

777
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 5: the spring season, there are a number of different comments

778
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 5: from big to media days, you know, twenty twenty four,

779
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: and then through the season all the way up to

780
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 5: and including the comment that you talked about on game

781
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: day at the Notre Dame game. I think that reflected

782
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: Signette trying to in his way, again reflecting his personality

783
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: and what works for him, trying to affect the sea

784
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 5: change in the way that people inside and in the

785
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 5: immediate orbit of his football program thought about that football program,

786
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 5: what to expect from it, how to support it, you

787
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: know what, it was capable of all of it. And

788
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 5: I don't think he's sitting there thinking, oh, and now

789
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 5: this year we're going to go fifteen to h and

790
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 5: win a national and everything's fixed. But I think he

791
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: steps back now twelve months later, and I think he

792
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like he needs to be quite so intentional

793
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 5: that some of that, at least the basics of that

794
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 5: culture change has kind of taken root because of the

795
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 5: success that people saw was possible when they sort of

796
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 5: bought in essentially, And so I think it has been

797
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 5: noticeable to me this offseason. It's not like he's been

798
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 5: dull and boring, but he hasn't had nearly as many

799
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 5: of the sort of viral signetti moments that kind of

800
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: became his calling card last season, became so much a

801
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 5: part of the profile of the twenty twenty four IU

802
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 5: football season. He hasn't had nearly as many of those,

803
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 5: And I don't think it's because he felt like he

804
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 5: needed to tone them back. I think it's because he

805
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 5: doesn't see the need for them this year in the

806
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: way that he did last year.

807
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: A pre conference schedule against opponents that went eleven and

808
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: twenty five last year Old Dominion, Kannesas State and Indiana State.

809
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: It begins for the Hoosiers August thirtieth against old Dominion,

810
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: and we can get between now and then more into

811
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: some of the new faces you will see from a

812
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: personnel standpoint with Zach Ostman, Zach, appreciate the time, the

813
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: perspective today and we will talk to you soon.

814
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 5: All right, absolutely, thanks for having me as always.

815
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: Zach Ostraman joining us on the guest line. Cam Blankenship

816
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: is the onsite engineer. We are here at Colts Camp,

817
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: Grand Park and Westfield where the Colts wrapped up practice

818
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: number one just after eleven o'clock today. Now the only

819
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: activity on the field is that of a John Deere

820
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: that's running around and getting everything ready for tomorrow. You

821
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: might hear that just off in the distance. We are

822
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: just off to the sidelines here on a very warm

823
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: day in central Indiana. It will be a warm day,

824
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: one would assume, with track activity coming up this weekend

825
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Sunday, the running of the

826
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: Brickyard four hundred and that from a television standpoint will

827
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: be anchored by Adam Alexander, who has done the Brickyard before.

828
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: From a radio standpoint, joins us now on the guest

829
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: line and Adam, I actually had Eddie Garrison play Prey

830
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: by mc hammer coming Back. Because you probably don't remember this,

831
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: but I think we were juniors in high school when

832
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: I gave you the mc hammer tape and you broke

833
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: into a spontaneous version of that song with your excitement

834
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: and getting this over me giving you an mc hammer

835
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: cassette tape, and so I thought, you know, what, can

836
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: you do a little mc hammer pray for me real quick.

837
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: I was going to say, there's a zero percent chance

838
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 4: that's going to happen today, Jake, and I would also

839
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: say I'm highly offended. I would say I'm highly offended

840
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 4: that you come on the air and you say, hey,

841
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 4: we're over here on the sidelines. I thought maybe that

842
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: was a shot at me because that's where I spent

843
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 4: most of my time playing high school football at North Central,

844
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 4: you know, on the sidelines.

845
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: Hey, Adam, here's the thing.

846
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: So for those that don't know Adam Alexander and I

847
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: were we met. If you can remember this, Adam, I'll

848
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: give you a shiny, brand new fifty dollars bill, just

849
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: like Bozo the Clown used to give out. Do you

850
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: know what class we were in when we first met,

851
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: by the way.

852
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: It was English, right, like freshman year English.

853
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: Is that right?

854
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: Sophomore year English? Miss Martin? She was like twenty four

855
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: and she was hot. Do you remember Miss Martin?

856
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: By chance, I have no comments on that.

857
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: I so you were wearing a Purdue shirt and I

858
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: was like, well, who's this guy? You know, this loud mouth,

859
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: the Purdue fan, and I was an IU fan, and

860
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: we both knew that we wanted to get into broadcasting.

861
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: And then, as fate would have it, junior year at

862
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: wj e L at North Central, we were very fortunate, Adam,

863
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: that they had a radio television program and you and

864
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: I were in that, and mac Ingall was in there

865
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: with us as well, Chris Love, you know, David Woods

866
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: who I work with now a lot of folks, but

867
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: we were very very fortunate, and you know, without getting

868
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: to you know, boring people, with us being the two

869
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: old guys from the Muppets here, it truly was a

870
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: special time because you and I immediately just hooked up

871
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, and We were the best

872
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: of buds from the get go and that continues to today.

873
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: But man, it was a special time, a lot of

874
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: fun back then.

875
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: It really is amazing that it all worked out like

876
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 4: it did. And I was talking to some folks yesterday

877
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: about come back to Indy and do a Brickyard four

878
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: hundred and they ask, you, know, what's it like to

879
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: do that race in your hometown? And I said, this

880
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: is truly full circle because our broadcasting careers began, you know,

881
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: right there at North Central and Jailbrettlight Crier Center and

882
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: WJ EL So to be able to start there and

883
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: do all the things that we were able to do

884
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: at such a young age and now to be back

885
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: is cool. And obviously you're a part of the sports

886
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: landscape every day in Indianapolis and all you do for

887
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: the community is amazing. And I know for you the

888
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 4: foundation laid right there, and so it's got to be

889
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: great for you to be able to be around like

890
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 4: you are and share so many great moments with the

891
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 4: city of Indianapolis and the sports community.

892
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: Do you remember Adam before we get to the brickyard,

893
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: because there is there are some storylines to talk about

894
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: with that but do you remember, And I think it's

895
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: hard for people now to understand what a thrill this

896
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: was for us then, but you and I when we

897
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: were juniors, and I take a lot of pride in this, Adam, honestly.

898
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: And I know your career has gone on to to

899
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: great things.

900
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're the television voice and NASCAR for the

901
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Brickyard four hundred upcoming on T and T, also on

902
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: those races that take place on Prime and you know

903
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: you have done a number of different broadcasts in college

904
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: football as well. But I don't know, Adam, that anything

905
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: canny clips the moment of joy and pride that I

906
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: had in the excitement, maybe even the nervousness of the

907
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: fact that I believe that you and I, if I

908
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: can pat ourselves on the back, I guess, but we

909
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: I think we were the first two students ever from

910
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: a high school broadcast standpoint to be granted credentials to

911
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: broadcast live the Indiana Kentucky basketball All Star Game back

912
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: when it was a sellout at Market Square. Eric Montrosse

913
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: was and Damon Bailey were the top two players. Dwayne

914
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: Morton was for Kentucky. But we just took it upon

915
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: ourselves to apply for a credential, and it was kind

916
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: of a waiting process of whether or not they were

917
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: going to let these two knuckleheads from North Central do it.

918
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: But do you remember, Adam, what a thrill that was

919
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: for us and just how at the time time how

920
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: honored we were to be able to do that broadcast

921
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: of what it meant for our level of excitement to

922
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: broadcast that game.

923
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 4: Well, I think Jacob just speaks to the passion that

924
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: we have for what we do. And that's why you're

925
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: still doing it today and I'm still doing it today,

926
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: and that is we just love showing up and going

927
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: to work, and you know, being in the moment when

928
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: it comes to live sports, whether you know, radio, TV,

929
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: whatever it is. And you know, back then, our energy

930
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 4: level was so high, for high for it, you couldn't

931
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: hold us back, and we just wanted more and more.

932
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: And so after getting to spend you know, an entire

933
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: season doing North Central basketball, which in and of itself

934
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: was a great honor because of the schedule we played

935
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: in the great gyms we got to go to across

936
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 4: the entire state of Indiana, that just wasn't enough for us.

937
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: And so when it rolled around in June it was

938
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 4: time for the Indiana Kentucky All Star Game. We wanted

939
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: to be a part of that. So, you know, I

940
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: just think it speaks to the passion that you and

941
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: I both have for this. We had it at sixteen,

942
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 4: seventeen years old, and we still have it today now

943
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 4: to run our fifties.

944
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

945
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: So this race coming up this weekend, Adam, and I

946
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: know that you know what it will mean for you

947
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: to be back home and be it, in my opinion,

948
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: the greatest race track in the world, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

949
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: But let's get into some of the storylines because you know,

950
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: with this particular race and the fact that it was

951
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: moved obviously to the road course for a number of

952
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: years there now back on the oval that obviously a

953
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: year ago was the return. But this particular track and

954
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: the challenges that it presents to these drivers, what makes

955
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: aside from the history Indianapolis different, I.

956
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 4: Would just say the nostalgia, you know, and you mentioned history,

957
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: but for me, you know, and I was talking to

958
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: Dale Junior about this yesterday. He'll be a part of

959
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: our coverage Sunday on tn T. You know, outside of Daytona,

960
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: this is one. I think a lot of drivers, Circle

961
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: is a place you want to win, just because you

962
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 4: know how winners at Indianapolis are celebrated, and it really

963
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: you know, the Indy five hundred is the Indy five hundred,

964
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 4: but it really, you know, if you're a racer, you

965
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: want to win there. And I think about those that

966
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: did it in Formula one and now Michael Schumacher is

967
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: still celebrated today having won it, you know, five times.

968
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: And what Jeff.

969
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 4: Gordon, you know what his name means, not just because

970
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: of what he's done in the history of NASCAR and

971
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 4: the championships and all that he's accomplished, but the five

972
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: wins at Indianapolis or something that is right there at

973
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: the top of his resume, just because of the magneting

974
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: at that place. And I know a lot of drivers

975
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: were disappointed, you know, when it went to the road course.

976
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 4: They understood that move and the timing of it and

977
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: all of that, but it took away an opportunity for

978
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: them to win one of the crown jewels in NASCAR

979
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 4: because the Brickyard four hundred was not on the schedule.

980
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: And I know Danny Hamlin, for one, you know, he

981
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: won last week He's on a roll right now. He's

982
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: been close to Indy, he's never won, and I know

983
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 4: he feels like, at forty four years old, how many

984
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 4: more opportunities am I going to have? I had three

985
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 4: opportunities that went away when we were on a road course.

986
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 4: I feel like I need to go get it done

987
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: right now. And so there's a lot of drivers that

988
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: fill that urgency that are on the back side of

989
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: their career. If they haven't wanted, they want to get

990
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 4: it done to say they want at the Indianapolis Motor

991
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: Speedway on the.

992
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: Oval, you know, Adam on Sunday, I don't think and

993
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to mention, you know, weatherwise, if the

994
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: forecast doesn't look great, it doesn't look terrible. I think

995
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: it's a small chance of some precipitation. But I do

996
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: think the air is even if it doesn't rain, it's

997
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: going to be humid, it's going to be thick. How

998
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: does that impact I know from an Indy car standpoint,

999
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, a thick air like that can kind of

1000
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: slow those engines down to kind of slog through that

1001
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: thick air. The grip can become challenged if it gets

1002
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: too hot on the track, but what about from a

1003
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: cup standpoint, how does it impact the cars themselves?

1004
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 3: And maybe even the strategy of a long race.

1005
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 4: Like that, Well, strategy is going to be a big

1006
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: part of the equation. And if any way, shape or form,

1007
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 4: you know, the weather impacts the handling of the cars,

1008
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 4: whether that be the you know, the track conditions themselves,

1009
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: or just what it does to you know, to bog

1010
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: down the engine or change.

1011
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 3: The way you race.

1012
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: You know, if it has an impact on strategy, that's

1013
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 4: a big deal because this is a strategy race. And

1014
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 4: we see that, you know, in the Indy five hundred

1015
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 4: and two, but in Nascar, you know, it's so challenging

1016
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: to pass here. You know, you get the restarts and

1017
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 4: that's where there's a lot of excitement. But then once

1018
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: you find yourself in position, it comes down to when

1019
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: are you gonna pit? How many stops are you going

1020
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 4: to make? How can you minimize your time on pit road?

1021
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: And is it better to pit three times but have

1022
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: to wait on fuel or is it better to pit

1023
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: four times and have quicker stops? And then when you know,

1024
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 4: when are these cautions going to come out? We know

1025
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 4: when we'll get two of them at the end of

1026
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: the stages. But but when will there be other cautions?

1027
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 4: And so it's a lot to manage for these teams.

1028
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: And you know, you talk about weather, We're coming off

1029
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 4: one of our hottest races. It was it was not good,

1030
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: you know, Sunday in Dover it was hot and humid

1031
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 4: and very hard on these drivers. And I would anticipate

1032
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: it will be more of the same Sunday in Indy

1033
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 4: for sure.

1034
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: You know, Dover was and Adam Alexander is our guest.

1035
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: You can see him and hear him Sunday on T

1036
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: and T for the coverage of the Brick Card four hundred.

1037
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: In terms of that race in Dover, nobody, I guess,

1038
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: if you were to look at it coming off of

1039
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: that would be hotter than Denny Hamlin because he won

1040
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: that race and he's put together a couple of wins

1041
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: this year. Do you believe Adam in momentum when it

1042
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: comes to racing or are the tracks so different one

1043
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: to the next that it's kind of hard to judge.

1044
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: No.

1045
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: I do believe in momentum, and I think it's top

1046
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: to bottom within the team. You know, certainly a driver

1047
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 4: maybe has a little bit more, you know, swagger about

1048
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: themselves if they've won, and I saw that in Denny Hamlin.

1049
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: I felt like after he won it dover in the

1050
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: way he won, he was energized. But I also feel

1051
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: like that, you know that crew plays such a big

1052
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: role and they filled the momentum and the expectations of winning.

1053
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: And you know, from from a Crucie standpoint, as you

1054
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: align strategy, you know, when you've won races, it builds

1055
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: a little bit of an insurance policy once you get

1056
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, and that opens the door, you know,

1057
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 4: for the risk you can take once you're in a race,

1058
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: especially when you're going to a venue. Whereas we said,

1059
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 4: strategy is going to be a big deal. So I

1060
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 4: feel like, you know, momentum is something that is real

1061
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: and that could play a factor. It's different than other sports,

1062
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: but certainly it's something that's a part of the equation.

1063
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: By the way, Adam, speaking of swagger, we double dated

1064
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: for grad dance and we took our dates for pizza.

1065
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: Do you remember that. I mean, that's some swagger, isn't it.

1066
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 3: I guess it is.

1067
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure I wasn't thinking that at the time. It

1068
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: was probably more of a budget decision. But fifty two, now,

1069
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: let's just go as swagger.

1070
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: You know I heard that that much.

1071
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, well listen, listen. A lot of people don't realize this,

1072
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: and maybe you don't want me.

1073
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say it like on the air here

1074
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 3: speaking of swagger.

1075
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: So maybe we didn't have it in high school, but

1076
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: by the time you were, you know, early to mid twenties,

1077
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: you had some swagger. Because I was there the night

1078
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: that you and aud were your wife met, so like

1079
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: you had natural slagger, right, I mean I wasn't even

1080
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: a man, right, Well, that was.

1081
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: Like, you know, thirty years ago or whatever that was,

1082
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: you know, over thirty years ago. So it's all worked out.

1083
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: We're still together. I don't know what that says about her.

1084
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: You know you had some swagger though, man.

1085
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess, so I guess.

1086
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Down in Evansville, all right, Right, I want to get

1087
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: I want to go back to just in talking about

1088
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: this race in general, and you know, we talked about

1089
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: Denny Hamlin. Obviously Kyle Larson knows his way around this

1090
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: track as well. But is there somebody that you look

1091
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: at and you think to yourself, you know what, I

1092
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: feel like this driver might be just kind of like

1093
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: that caged animal that's about to break out. Things haven't

1094
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: gone their way, but just with the right break here there,

1095
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: their year could look totally different. Who jumps out at

1096
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: you in that capacity or description.

1097
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: And that category is Tyler Reddick. You know, he started

1098
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: on the poll last year in this race, he ended

1099
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 4: up finishing second, and he was the regular season champion

1100
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: last year. They haven't won this year. They're pretty much

1101
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 4: a lock for the playoffs. He's got an enormous advantage

1102
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: over the cut line that's not going to deteriorate. I

1103
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 4: don't think we're going to get, you know, five more

1104
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: winners before the end of the regular season. So he's

1105
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: going to be a part of the playoffs. But they

1106
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: haven't won, and when you haven't won, it eats at you.

1107
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: And we know what he's capable of as a driver.

1108
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: He actually won one of those races on the road

1109
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: course at Indianapolis when we were racing there. But he's

1110
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 4: not done it in the brickyard. His two starts there

1111
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: on the oval top ten and that runner up finish

1112
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: I mentioned a year ago. That's a team that I

1113
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: feel like, if they could get it going, could make

1114
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 4: it happen. And you know in his teammate, Bubba Wallace

1115
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: is another driver to watch. Bubb has had you know,

1116
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: sneaky good numbers at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and I

1117
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: feel like that, you know, they could have cars this

1118
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: weekend that could compete. Qualifying is going to be big

1119
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 4: because that pit road's tough and you want track position

1120
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 4: and then you also want a good pit stall selection.

1121
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: So that'll be big for those two drivers. But those

1122
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: are two to watch for sure. When you talk about

1123
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: drivers that haven't won yet that need to get something

1124
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 4: going and could you know, jump start their season on.

1125
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Speaker 1: Sunday, you know with that when you talk about just

1126
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: track position in general. Adam Adam Alexander our guest here

1127
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: joining US Colts Campus where I'm located here in Grand

1128
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: Park and Westfield, and Adam will be on the call

1129
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: for the brick card four hundred coming up Sunday. You know,

1130
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: there's always that narrative, Adam that the track the Indianapolis

1131
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: Motor Speedway, that the width of those cars, it's a

1132
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: difficult passing track.

1133
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: Do you buy into that?

1134
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: And you know, is there a particular driver that you

1135
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: look at and you go, you know, what you could

1136
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: say that, but that driver's figured out where to kind

1137
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: of cut those corners and make areas passing zones that

1138
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: others may not want to go into.

1139
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: Well, there's no doubt that that is a big deal

1140
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 4: at Indian It's very challenging for the drivers to pass there,

1141
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: and that's been a topic of conversation really since we

1142
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: went there for the first time, you know, way back

1143
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: in the mid nineties. But I would say that you

1144
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 4: know a couple of drivers that I would put on

1145
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: that list. Kyle Larson has won and you know, he

1146
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 4: won this race last year and it just seems to adapt.

1147
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: And they had been on a little bit of a

1148
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 4: summertime slump, but he's seen to come out of that.

1149
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: Last week at Dover, didn't win, but did some very

1150
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: Kyle Larson liked things last week, and so my expectations

1151
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: for him or high this weekend. He's running the Saturday

1152
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 4: race and the Sunday race, so that extra track time

1153
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 4: probably will help him as well. And someone else I

1154
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 4: think we need to be talking about is Chase Frisco.

1155
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: We know Indiana drivers have had success in the Brickyard

1156
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 4: four hundred. We talk about Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Ryan Newman.

1157
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 4: Chase Frisco won at Pocono. If you were to say

1158
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 4: what track on the schedule is like Indy, the one

1159
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: that is closest is Pocono, and it just feels like

1160
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 4: a lot is aligning right now that team is running

1161
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: well second to last two weeks. I would keep my

1162
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: eye on Chase Frisco this weekend?

1163
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: Does it Pocono?

1164
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: Adam and I might be thinking of Ontario back when

1165
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: it was still around, but I think I thought it

1166
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: was Pokono that when it was designed, has one corner

1167
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: like one is exactly as Trenton was one is I

1168
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: think Ontario and doesn't have I think it's turned three

1169
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: in Pocono is nine degrees twelve minutes and is specified

1170
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: to resimble the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

1171
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 3: Did I just make that up? Or am I remembering

1172
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: that correctly? No, you're right, and.

1173
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: It's it's Trenton, which how you pulled Trenton, New Jersey

1174
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 4: out is amazing. That's that speaks to your weird brain.

1175
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 4: But yes, it's it's Trenton, it's Indianapolis and turn two

1176
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: the tunnel turn, and then turn three model after the

1177
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 4: Milwaukee Mile. But yeah, there are characteristics that pass over

1178
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: for sure.

1179
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of my weird brain before we let you go,

1180
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: Adam Alexander, you know I have to play this. I've

1181
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: done it with Mac as well. So I remember, I

1182
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: still have like two tapes of when we did the

1183
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: short lived Jake and Adams Show on w j Yell

1184
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: in high school. Now, I got fired from that show. Remember,

1185
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: I got in trouble and got suspended, And I know

1186
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: that's shocking to people that then you had to you

1187
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: had to do the rest of the year by yourself, right,

1188
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: and that how that worked out.

1189
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: I feel like that's how it was.

1190
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1191
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So one night though, we're doing this show and

1192
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we had done like three of them,

1193
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: and we already had run out of stuff to talk about.

1194
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: So we didn't know what to do.

1195
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 1: And our buddy Jason Venturi, who's dad Rick Ventury of

1196
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: course part of the Colts family, and Jason Vontury had

1197
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: a new keyboard. He was a musician, and his keyboard

1198
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: had some sound effect that sounded kind of like race cars.

1199
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: So we decided one night on the Jake and Adams

1200
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: Show that instead of the show itself. We would just

1201
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: do a two hour ad lib totally fake, made up

1202
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: off the top of our head.

1203
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: Indy five hundred.

1204
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: We had a crash on lap five with somebody that

1205
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: I think ended up actually coming back and finishing third,

1206
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: which was miraculous.

1207
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: But anyway, so Eddie's got it cued up.

1208
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: Here Here is Adam the last I think lap and

1209
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: a half for the last lap of the always exciting

1210
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety or nineteen ninety one there about Fantasy Indy

1211
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: five hundred. This is Adam Alexander, myself, Mac Ingele. Chris

1212
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: Love was on the broadcast as well. Jason Voncurrey on

1213
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: the keyboards. Here we go trying to make it move.

1214
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 5: It's Bears, he can't do it.

1215
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: Cut it up room.

1216
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: Mike Anny is working hard on Rick Behers right now,

1217
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 3: he is working hard.

1218
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: It's Mears.

1219
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 3: Engine begins to smoke.

1220
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: Michael ahead Breddy has hash Rick for session.

1221
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: Eddie cheeber Now let's take it over, two guys. He

1222
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: has got passport. That's Soliman. I mean, I'm looking us

1223
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: move up.

1224
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 4: And now was in such position as the sow senior

1225
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: Michael Ethreddie mcberton ban guy said.

1226
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 3: Then Eddie Cheever. Just that Cheever takes Sollivant, Soliman takes

1227
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: Chieva right back.

1228
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: Danny Sullivant, the great driver at the beautiful Red and

1229
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: White Stars shot shot back in the eighth place. Back.

1230
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 3: You've got the race coming up.

1231
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: Holy go Cherry Bird, god Boy, come on, went Cherryber

1232
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: all the way coming into tour three.

1233
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 1: Now, needless to say, Adam, Matt got overly excited, right

1234
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: he did.

1235
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 3: He was in his moment there.

1236
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: Now you were able to call in the Danny Sullivan

1237
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: Red and white beautiful car, which is also a pretty

1238
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: good recall.

1239
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: Right there you.

1240
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 4: Go, I got I didn't remember that, I remember doing that.

1241
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 4: And I gotta say, like, when you think about, and

1242
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 4: I said earlier, the passion we have for this, that

1243
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 4: right there illustrates what it meant to us. We just

1244
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 4: couldn't get enough. And you know, to come in that

1245
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 4: night and do that, and that's pretty cool to pull

1246
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: that tape up when you think about where we are

1247
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 4: and what we're doing now well and.

1248
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 3: In particular how bad we were.

1249
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: But it was fun, and you know, I think it

1250
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: also I think it also speaks to our swagger, Adam,

1251
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: because needless to say, me, you and Meck were just

1252
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: absolutely lady killers back then by broadcasting cord down fake

1253
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: infy five hundred.

1254
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 4: Right, that's right, yeah, yeah, when you do that with

1255
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: your evenings, it speaks to what your social life is

1256
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: all about in high school.

1257
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. We had a ton of fun though,

1258
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: I will say that, all right, Mac. The schedule of

1259
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: events in terms of everything taking place at IMS this weekend,

1260
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: and in particular your coverage and when it all gets underway.

1261
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we'll have practice on Friday for both the

1262
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,479
Speaker 4: Infinity and Cup Series, and on the Cup side that'll

1263
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: be on True TV. I think we're on the air

1264
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 4: at one o'clock Eastern time there to track on Friday,

1265
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: and then on Saturday, we've got qualifying for the brick

1266
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: Yard four hundred. We'll have to see w coverage for

1267
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: the NASCAR Expinity race. I think we're on the air

1268
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: four o'clock Eastern time with that event late Saturday afternoon,

1269
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 4: and then Sunday NASCAR on TNT Nascar Nation on the

1270
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: air at one o'clock getting you ready for the Brickyard

1271
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 4: four hundred, and we'll be green shortly after two from

1272
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and I'm hoping. I'm hoping that

1273
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 4: the rain stays away because I'm going to hang a

1274
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: day and come out the Colts camp on Monday.

1275
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 3: That's my plan anyway, So.

1276
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you'll be good out, bring your speed. Oh

1277
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: it's warm here, not that it's not, but it's warm here.

1278
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: You know, that's right, So there you go.

1279
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: All right, Adam, Hey, obviously, say hello to your dad,

1280
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: say hello to audit for me as well, and hopefully

1281
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: we'll see you this weekend. I'm doing IndyCar in Monterey,

1282
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: but also we'll be around Monday as well, so probably

1283
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: we'll see you over the course of the weekend.

1284
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: But appreciate the time. All right, travel safe, thanks so much,

1285
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 3: shake you guys.

1286
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: Have a good one, all right, Adam Alexander joining us

1287
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: on the program again. T and T coming up on Sunday,

1288
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: and then, as he mentioned, CW for the Expinity Race

1289
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: as well the Pennzoil two fifty