1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Casey, we don't normally do this, but I'd like 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: to begin today's show with the moment of personal privilege 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: if we can. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: Sure. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we got a lot of stuff to get to, 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: tons of things going on in the world's Kennel and 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: Casey Show. By the way, thank you for joining us 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: the number one radio program here in Central India. And 9 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: they say, that's thanks to you our fabulous family. And 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: we don't do a lot of sports on this show. 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: We have a fabulous sports station in our cluster here 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: at Urban one that talks sports all the time. But 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: we will talk sports when it bleeds into society as 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: a collective, When something happens that affects a large amount 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: of people populous as a whole, we will talk about sports. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: And that's where we're going to begin today's program, if 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: that's all right with you. Because this feels like it's 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: sort of like the Hulk Cogan or the Ozzy Osbourne thing. 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: It feels like a really big deal, and based on 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: the reaction on social media, it is a really big 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: deal to a whole lot of people. And that is 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: that Ryan Sandberg beloved Hall of Fame second basement for 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs passed away yesterday at the age of 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: sixty five. 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer in early twenty four. 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: He was in remission for a while, but it returned 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: and spread later. And here's the thing, when a legendary 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: athlete like Ryan Sandberg passes away, you're not just mourning 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: the person. You're grieving what they represented. And for many 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: people it's childhood memories. 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's perfect, and it's interesting think I'm this sounds 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: very selfish of me to say, but I'm so glad 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: he passed away when he did, which was last night, 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: and so I've basically had like twelve hours to kind 35 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: of get it out of the system. I mean, like, 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: I broke down. ESPN did a fabulous video montage tribute, 37 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: and I just completely lost it this more watching it, 38 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: because one of the things you don't realize is thinking of, like, 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: how do you even articulate Ryan Sandberg? And to so 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: many But the reason it's a big deal is WGN. 41 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: WGN was one of the original superstations along with TBS, 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: and that's why there are so many people who are 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Chicago cub and Atlanta Brave fans. You saw these guys 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: who played for these teams every single day, the good, 45 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: the bad, it didn't matter because you didn't have the 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: on demand stuff like you do now. 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: So whatever you could get is what you knew your 48 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: world to be. 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: In WGN came into millions of people's homes if you're 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: an eighties or nineties kid like I was, every single day, 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: and so you saw this guy who not only was 52 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: he a phenomenal player, but he was a phenomenal role 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: model and professional. And if you were a person of 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: my age, you grew up wanting to be your per 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: tending to be Ryan Sandberg in your backyard. If your 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: parents followed baseball or taught you baseball, there's a good 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: chance they referenced Ryan Sandberg on how to field a groundball, 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: on how to run the bases, on how to be 59 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: a consummate professional, like he was the kid guy if 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: you're an eighties or nineties kid that every little leaguer 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: should have been like, because not only was he a 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: phenomenal baseball player, but he was a phenomenal role model. 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: He belonged to a generation where people took pride in 64 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: showing up and working hard and then not demanding a 65 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: parade for it. Not only was he a phenomenal baseball player, 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: legendary defensive second basement, but he had good work ethic. 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: And you mentioned the WGN broadcast, and that's what bonded 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: so many families together, fathers and sons, and your proof 69 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: of that. 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so, like, I was thinking about this this 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: morning after I had just a complete meltdown watching that 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: that that. 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: ESPN tribute, and. 74 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, because, like I said, we don't 75 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: we don't talk a lot about sports here unless how 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: it affects society. And one of the things I was 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: thinking about is how you don't realize as a kid 78 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: how relatively perfect your childhood is until it's so far 79 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. 80 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: That you'll never get it back. 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about how perfect those WGN broadcasts 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: were and how perfect they helped make my childhood, whether 83 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: it was Harry Carey, Steve Stone calling the games, Arnie. 84 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they were so big that even the producer 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: who you never saw, Arnie Harris, became a legendary figure 86 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: in millions of households because he was referenced every day 87 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: on the broadcast, and the players that you saw and 88 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: Ryan Samberg and Andre Dawson and Mark Grayson, Greg Maddox 89 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: and the Cubs broadcasts were so big that the Cubs 90 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: are one of the few teams that thirty years later 91 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: a guy could have been and also ran on a 92 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: team and you still remember the name because for at 93 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: least one summer, you saw that guy every single day 94 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: in your in your living room, and you like the Cubs, 95 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: of which Ryan Sandberg was the face in the eighties 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: and nineties. Summer vacation it doesn't exist anymore because they've 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: changed how you know, this year round school stuff, But 98 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: summer vacation when you were a kid in central Indiana, 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: in some sort of semi thriving suburban community with respectable 100 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: parents and a decent upbringing, was like one long, endless 101 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: day where from the end of May to the middle 102 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: of August or end of August, it was just. 103 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: Like one thing. 104 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: You were allowed to stay up late, you were you know, 105 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: it was just baseball every day. It was all of 106 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: these things, like it's just like the days just all 107 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: ran together. And the Chicago cub Us at one twenty 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: back when we were still in Central Time were just 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: like the focal point of that every single day. And 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: it's like the weird the things that you begin to 111 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: remember and what big parts they were of your life, 112 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: because like I so remember every day my dad because 113 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: he would tape the game when he would. 114 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: Go to work, literally tape and he said this. 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: Set the tape, right, the Bhay tape, And I just 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: would remember the stern summer lecture of if you're going 117 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: to watch that game, don't mess with the VCR so 118 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: that I can watch the game later and don't tell 119 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: me what happened when I get home. 120 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: And the first hour because you can fast forward through. 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: The commercials, the first hour and a half of my 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: dad's existence when he would get home every day was 123 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: watching that game. And so you had to make a 124 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: choice like do I watch the game. If I watch 125 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: the game, I have to leave the house when my 126 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: old man gets home because I will. I will, through 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: facial expression or whatever. 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: Let him know what happened in this game, right, And 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: that's like that's all. It's like, that's what these athletes do. 130 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: And Ryan Sandberg was the f point of that because 131 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: he was there every single day. 132 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: Right, He had the batting average, he had the work ethic, 133 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: and it hearkens back to when they were judged by 134 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: how many games they played, not how many brands they 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: partnered with. Rhino was out there grinding out one hundred 136 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: and fifty games a year, and he was a great example, 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: and he was somebody for parents to draw on to 138 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: tell their kids play it like Sandberg. 139 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: So there's two things, and then we'll move on and 140 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: get to the rest of the show. But two things. 141 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid in June of nineteen ninety four, 142 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: when Ryan Sandberg suddenly retired, like I remember sitting in 143 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: front of my television. I remember WGN breaking in and 144 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: running the press conference, and I remember like afterwards they 145 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: were talking about how much money he was making at 146 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: the time. And Ryan Sanmdberg, for those who don't know, 147 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: suddenly retired, very reminiscent to Michael Jordan in nineteen ninety four, 148 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: which I believe was about the time Michael Jordan and 149 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: also suddenly retired. 150 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: And he said at the time, I'm. 151 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Not playing up to the standards I've set for myself, 152 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: and I don't want to let the fans down every 153 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: single day, and I'd rather just if my heart is 154 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: not in it, I'd rather just not let the fans 155 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: down every day, and he had some colossal contract. It's 156 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: funny now, like it sounds like such a smallment, was 157 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: like six million dollars or something. And I remember just 158 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: staring at the television and trying to process. 159 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: Your your hero, your hero. 160 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Is leaving, like he's going away, and like hauling my 161 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: dad at work, and like almost being in tears over 162 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: and trying to process like what that, what that meant? 163 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: And it's so still seared in my mind. And so 164 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm like thinking of all these things the past, you know, 165 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: twelve hours or so, about how important somebody was to 166 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: your childhood that thirty thirty years later you still just 167 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: vividly remember that that moment in time. 168 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: He is known by many Cubs fans as their favorite 169 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: player of all time. Ten time All Star, nine time 170 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: Gold Glove winner, spent fifteen seasons with the Cubs. Inducted 171 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: into the Baseball Hall of Fame, they retired as jersey 172 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: and a little bit of kismet Him and Harry Carey 173 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: started on the same day with the Cubs organization. But 174 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: here he is talking about respect for the game. 175 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: The reason I am here, they tell me, is that 176 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: I played the game a certain way that I played 177 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: the game the way it was supposed to be played. 178 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I do know this. 179 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: I had too much respect for the game to play 180 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: it any other way. 181 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: And if there is a single reason. 182 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: I am here today, it is because of one word respect. 183 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: Of course, he was honored with his statue at Wrigleyfield 184 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: in twenty three and tributes have been pouring in from 185 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: MLB and the Cobbs and fans alike. So here is 186 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: the Kendall and Casey tribute. It is the Sandberg game 187 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: we had to play. 188 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: Very likely steel and the insight, the absolute they look 189 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 4: while I rage the five pertuing what relect book balls work? 190 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: Lets you bad burger blow ball on what bottle strikes 191 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 4: throughout a runner? First leven to night and favorite of 192 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 4: Cardle the bitch strike coll be out back corner. They 193 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: have Stabbury, the aspire, right field section, bob a struction, but. 194 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: The back he didn't help. 195 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: He don't say he didn't come all. 196 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: He had a fun. How about that