WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Moose Johnston Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>Moose, do we got you now? Is this better?

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<v Speaker 2>Much better, much better. It's not like the bowl of

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<v Speaker 2>Rice Krispies there for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want that.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't want that. Well, thanks for adjusting. Some people

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<v Speaker 3>would just leave, but you came back, so thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for that. We appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the number one story I think I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about is Bryce Young. I mean, when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the Panthers and you watch him play, clearly this,

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<v Speaker 1>so far through five games, he has taken it up

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<v Speaker 1>to a different level. What are the things you notice

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<v Speaker 1>that are the most different from Bryce?

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a really good supporting cast around him. The

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line has improved since his early part of his

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<v Speaker 2>career in Carolina. But the thing that impresses me most

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<v Speaker 2>about Bryce is just how rough the start was and

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<v Speaker 2>how he never lost faith in himself and hung and

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<v Speaker 2>clung to his faith in God to get him through

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<v Speaker 2>that tough stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>And now.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming through the back side, we were able to see

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<v Speaker 2>what Dave Canales did with Baker Mayfield down in Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>So he has that ability to tap into a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>especially one who may have started their career a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit bumpy and get him back on track. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my first opportunity to see the Panthers and Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 2>was against the Lions on national TV and was really,

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<v Speaker 2>really impressed. with how they played there and uh yeah

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<v Speaker 2>i'm excited i'm excited to see him this week and

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<v Speaker 2>we got you guys in a couple weeks down the

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<v Speaker 2>road as well so that'll be fun just to see

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<v Speaker 2>the growth over.

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<v Speaker 3>The next month or so how sustainable do you think

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<v Speaker 3>this start is for bryce is this is this now

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<v Speaker 3>in this offense at this stage of his career is

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<v Speaker 3>this now who bryce young truly is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's an answer that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see as we move forward. I think the most exciting

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<v Speaker 2>thing for Carolina fans is the consistency he's had through

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<v Speaker 2>the first five weeks. And now you put the tape

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<v Speaker 2>up and the defensive coordinators are going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>look at that and figure out a way to shut

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<v Speaker 2>it down. But I have all the confidence in the

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<v Speaker 2>world with the offensive coaches in Carolina to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to evolve as well. and start to game plan off

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<v Speaker 2>of things we used the first month of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>throw a little bit of a wrinkle on that, get

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<v Speaker 2>defenses thinking one thing, and then we're coming at them

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<v Speaker 2>from a different direction. Now we get into that part

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<v Speaker 2>of the season where you've got to start to grow, evolve,

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<v Speaker 2>and adjust because you've got a lot of tape on film,

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<v Speaker 2>and these defensive coordinators are very good at being able

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<v Speaker 2>to shut down what's been successful the first four weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>five weeks of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be fun to watch Brad Edzik, new OC,

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<v Speaker 1>who's flying right now, How does he do in that

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<v Speaker 1>chess match? We're talking with Daryl Moose Johnson from Fox.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on the call for Panthers and Bucks coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. So, Moose, I realize I'm getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>ask a question to a guy that was a fullback

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<v Speaker 1>who blocked for Emmitt Smith. So my guess is you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to run, no offense to Troy Aikman, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing you wanted to run the ball dang near every play.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that's really weird statistically about the Panthers is that

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<v Speaker 1>they are the worst running team yardage-wise in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>26 yards. But in the second half, they average 82 yards.

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<v Speaker 1>And the attempts are dramatically different in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>It's way more pass-heavy. And then they really lean on

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<v Speaker 1>the run in the second half, where they average 82

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<v Speaker 1>yards a game and are second in the league in

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<v Speaker 1>second-half run production.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that's something?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'll find myself like, man, Bryce is playing well,

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<v Speaker 1>but where's the balance? in the first half and then

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<v Speaker 1>you'll get it a heavy dose of the run in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half is that sustainable do you think that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that the panthers have to balance it out more

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<v Speaker 1>or or do you think it's just a team that

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<v Speaker 1>is choosing the past to open up the run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say it's probably based on, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what they feel about the opponents. That would be a

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<v Speaker 2>game plan that we would have had against the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles back when Reggie White was there, Jerome Brown. And,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, we're not going to run the football

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<v Speaker 2>into that front, you know, for the first 30 minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of the game. Let's get back. Let's get some quick

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<v Speaker 2>drop back. Let's establish some rhythm. And you see that

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<v Speaker 2>from Carolina's offense. Let's get that defensive line tired from pushing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I always talk to Tony Siragusa about that. And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, you know, when you're– pass blocking and you're

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<v Speaker 2>giving ground as opposed to pass rushing and pushing forward

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to get to the quarterback, you expend so

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<v Speaker 2>much more energy. That's why you have the defensive line

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<v Speaker 2>rotation and the offensive line stays solid with the center.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to tire that defensive line out and then

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of them in the second half, and that

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<v Speaker 2>would be a game plan we would have used against

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<v Speaker 2>those Eagles teams. So I think it could be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more for Carolina where you're seeing it consistently

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<v Speaker 2>over the first five weeks of the season that this

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<v Speaker 2>is part of how they want to play the game

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and that would be fun to watch moving

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<v Speaker 2>forward in the season. How did that start to adjust

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<v Speaker 2>and change, or was it really based on opponent? As

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the defenses, what's the commonalities with that

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<v Speaker 2>defensive front and that linebacker level?

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<v Speaker 3>Moose, I know that Baker's been out here for a

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<v Speaker 3>while now, but even before that, they were not what

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<v Speaker 3>we thought. What's your assessment of what's gone wrong here

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<v Speaker 3>with Tampa in 2026? Yeah, good question.

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<v Speaker 2>We had them week one against Cincinnati, and I did

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<v Speaker 2>not expect to see the turnovers, number one. from Tampa

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<v Speaker 2>Bay but also caused Cincinnati. So maybe Cincinnati's defense was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit further down the road than we thought

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to be in week one. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing for me with Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 2>is the adjustment. I'm guessing the adjustment with that offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they hadn't played together since 2024, so that

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<v Speaker 2>starting five was never together last season in 2025. Has

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<v Speaker 2>it really taken that long for them to get back

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<v Speaker 2>in sync? I know that Zach Robinson has brought in

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<v Speaker 2>a new offense, and there's probably going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different things when you talk about the run

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<v Speaker 2>game and targets and hand placement and all the different

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<v Speaker 2>details on the offensive line. I was really surprised to

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<v Speaker 2>see the offensive line struggle to regain that chemistry. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>over the last two weeks, they're getting back to that

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<v Speaker 2>team that we saw. I think that game in Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday night was huge for them. And the night

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<v Speaker 2>they had, they were over 240 yards rushing against Dallas.

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<v Speaker 2>Bucky Irving played really, really well. So I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they're starting to hit their stride, and that's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything but help Baker Mayfield if he's back

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<v Speaker 2>in the lineup. because now that run game tied into

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<v Speaker 2>the play action. I still think they're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out exactly what to do on the outside without Mike Evans,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a work in progress right now. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think if you watch, Jalen Daniels was more comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>some of the younger guys that he probably came through

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<v Speaker 2>the training camp reps with when we talk about a

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<v Speaker 2>Ted Hurst and a Ted Johnson as opposed to an

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<v Speaker 2>Emeka Obuka. and a Chris Godwin. So I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to figure out what they're doing at wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're down a little bit at tight end, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sort that one out too. So it'll be interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to see how long it takes Baker Mayfield to get

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<v Speaker 2>back in the flow when he comes back into the lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Moose, the Panther defense started off, I mean, when

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<v Speaker 1>you allow the other team to score Luke Keekly's jersey

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<v Speaker 1>number in points.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Luke, but we don't need that. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>need that.

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<v Speaker 1>But since then, and I know that there are many

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to this show that are tired of me reciting

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<v Speaker 1>this stat and updating it every week. but they are

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<v Speaker 1>third in EPA defensively, like average points added per play

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<v Speaker 1>in total on defense since then. You're watching the tape

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<v Speaker 1>of this defense. What do you see? What have they

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<v Speaker 1>been doing well lately in your mind? I know they're

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<v Speaker 1>missing those two starting corners, so I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>act like there aren't going to be some rough moments,

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<v Speaker 1>but what do you think about this defense right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've had a couple of teams that have been

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<v Speaker 2>hit by that cornerback bug as well. And it's amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what it does, um, You know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit earlier this year, and probably one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>you guys had the game you had against Detroit was

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<v Speaker 2>just the throwers in the secondary with the corner and

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<v Speaker 2>actually the safety position as well. So, you know, Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>and Tedderow had a field day that afternoon, that evening.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I just– I see some really good fundamental stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a lot of guys at the point of

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<v Speaker 2>the tackle. You've got a lot of guys coming into

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<v Speaker 2>frame when you're watching the film. So, you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>those details that the coaches drive down and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people– You know, don't pay a lot of attention

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<v Speaker 2>to them, but just, you know, defensive teams that hustle

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<v Speaker 2>to the football and bring more bodies. Because the ability

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<v Speaker 2>for people to break tackles today, you know, it's very impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're still in that big hit era as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to, you know, form tackling. You know, we still

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<v Speaker 2>want to get that big hit as opposed to getting

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<v Speaker 2>the guy, the ball carrier to the ground. But you

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<v Speaker 2>see a lot of really, really good fundamentals today. from

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<v Speaker 2>that Carolina defense. We just kind of talked a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about that offensive line at Tampa Bay. This is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a fun one to watch for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got some really good battles going on down in

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<v Speaker 2>the trenches. I've loved the last three seasons of football

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<v Speaker 2>with the resurgence in the run game, the commitment to

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line. We've seen so many teams start to

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<v Speaker 2>get away from that 65-35 pass-run split down into more

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<v Speaker 2>55-45 passes. 60-40. So it's a lot better for me

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<v Speaker 2>as an old fullback, you know, watching those battles down

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<v Speaker 2>inside and really who controls the line of scrimmage has

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<v Speaker 2>the best opportunity to win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Moose, did you see the story this week of why

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<v Speaker 3>your two former teammates, Aikman and Irvin, went viral together

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<v Speaker 3>this week?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Troy Aikman on the Dale Brisby podcast shared a story

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<v Speaker 3>about his bachelor days when he came home and he

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<v Speaker 3>found two female fans that were just swimming in his backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>And he called the cops to remove the females from

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<v Speaker 3>the backyard. And Irvin got all worked up that he

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<v Speaker 3>would call the cops. He said that's the last thing

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<v Speaker 3>he would do if there were two females in his.

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<v Speaker 2>Backyard. Yeah, that makes sense. On both levels.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Though.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes to show that y'all in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody's the same. You guys don't have to all

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<v Speaker 1>be the same to be a great team.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's one of the things that– When

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<v Speaker 2>you have a team that does something unique, that is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the key things about it. And we all

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<v Speaker 2>came from different backgrounds. I tell people all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>when I watched Michael Irvin play at the University of Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>he drove me crazy because I thought he was so

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<v Speaker 2>arrogant and so self-centered and everything was about him and

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a team guy. And then I get down

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<v Speaker 2>to Dallas and I get to meet him. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was my favorite teammate. I mean, there was nobody that

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<v Speaker 2>was a better teammate than Michael Irvin. And you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't think that from afar. So that was that

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<v Speaker 2>was a huge lesson for me that, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>judge people and you form an opinion and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get to meet them. You better be prepared to adjust

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<v Speaker 2>that opinion and embrace who they really are in person.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was a huge lesson for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Michael, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the hardest worker. He was the heart and

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<v Speaker 2>soul of our team.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool. Do you see him?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever, you watch the Canes games and see

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<v Speaker 1>him on the sidelines going berserk? I'm sure that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>shock you.

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<v Speaker 2>He does look pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it. When he was down on all

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<v Speaker 1>fours bone in the overtime period, that was a new one, man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mooseway, we had a blast talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>We look forward to hearing your commentary of Panthers Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox. Thank you so much for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got it. We got you guys in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. Hopefully we can get together again.