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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back. It is Colt's Corner with myself, Kevin Bowen.

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison is across the way, Eddie. How you doing, sir?

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Speaker 2: It's National Championship Day, keV. I'm doing great, indeed it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We are recording this on Monday, January nineteenth. Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: has just gotten fired, which is quite the NFL news

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Speaker 1: and obviously locally, yes, it'll be Indiana and Miami tonight.

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Speaker 1: Miami gives me a crazy ex girlfriend vibes.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, explain boy.

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Speaker 1: It could occasionally be fun if you wake up next

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Speaker 1: to it, But if you take her home to mom,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's necessarily the route you want

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Speaker 2: Okay, you follow me or no?

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Speaker 1: Kind of like don't they have three of the best

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Speaker 1: wins we've seen in college football this year? Uh? Yes,

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Speaker 1: yes they do, and they've also lost to could you

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Speaker 1: say four SMU and Louisville? Uh yeah, I guess four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you want to throw old Miss, yeah, honestly I

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Speaker 1: should probably throw old Miss in that group, but you know,

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Speaker 1: certainly you know Ohio State in the fashion they did

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Speaker 1: at A and M. Yeah, I guess I should throw

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Speaker 1: almost in there if I'm gonna throw the Notre Name

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Speaker 1: game in there. So yeah, I don't know, there's I

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Speaker 1: think it's a different test for Indiana just with their

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Speaker 1: individual talent. But I just think Indiana is so damn discipline.

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Speaker 1: They have a professional level of discipline to the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Strength is Miami's biggest weakness discipline, uh huh. And so

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Speaker 1: I think Indiana will definitely win. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think this might be a little closer than maybe

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Speaker 1: some people are thinking.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've been saying to Jake Corey last week

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Speaker 2: on our show from twelve to three on the Fan,

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Speaker 2: is that this IU team doesn't feel like a college program.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a professional football team with the with

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Speaker 2: the way they prepare, with the discipline that they have,

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Speaker 2: they don't make many mistakes, and if they do, they

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Speaker 2: you know, they know how to minimize damage control that

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Speaker 2: is the best way to put it. They know how

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Speaker 2: to you know, control the damage and limit all the

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Speaker 2: explosive plays. They don't make silly penalties, they don't turn

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Speaker 2: the ball over, you know, willy nilly, and those are

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Speaker 2: all things that Miami has done at various points this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like college games are largely decided by stupidity,

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Speaker 1: whereas the NFL it's a little bit more of like

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Speaker 1: it's your own athletic execution mistakes, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: It's not the amount of boneheaded penalties or you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: stupid kicking stuff or dropping extra points. And now I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to think back to all the Notre Dame losses

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Speaker 1: this year that broke my heart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin. Coming up on today's Pobb, we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the Jim Bob Cooter News interviewing for the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator job, run down the Colts free agents, getting

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Speaker 2: into a few Twitter questions, and then kind of preview

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week. But before we jump into

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Speaker 2: the Jim Bob Cooter News, what were your overall thoughts

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Speaker 2: of the second round of the playoffs yesterday and Saturday?

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously two great games, you know, the first and

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Speaker 1: the last one. You know, you go back to that

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Speaker 1: Bill's Broncos game. I thought one of the sneaky plays

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Speaker 1: of the game that maybe isn't being talked about enough

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Speaker 1: is I hated maybe Josh Allen check to this. I

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Speaker 1: pressure on bow Knicks in company to drive down the field.

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Speaker 1: And now we're what sam Ellinger won play away. I

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Speaker 1: guess sam Ellinger made the right decision. Did he not

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Speaker 1: say no to the Colts for those four games?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So you know, so that obviously was kind of my

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Speaker 2: Did you say no to them for the four games

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Speaker 2: or you know, going all the way back to last

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I think I think I was kind of

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Speaker 1: a mutual party in a ways. I think I don't know.

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Speaker 1: think of that time people knock professional sports. Yeah, these

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Speaker 1: guys are just in it for the money. They don't care.

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Speaker 1: Like you watch not just Josh Allen's emotion, but you

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Sean McDermott acted in the way

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Speaker 2: told them what he was getting fired. Oh, already knew

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Speaker 2: and he was like, guys this, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that that would have leaked, but I

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Speaker 2: Just did Schultz leave hurt? I didn't watch that game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Schultz left hurt. Yeah, it just yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: obviously bears rams. I mean, what a wild, wild game.

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Speaker 1: I thought that that Caleb Williams controller was broken when

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Speaker 2: They did a great job of a you know, keeping

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Speaker 1: And then you know you get the three and out

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Speaker 1: to start overtime, and then obviously Dj Moore's effort on

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Speaker 1: that play, I you know, it's just a hair too

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Speaker 1: he was one of the eight. Shout out Warsaw Indiana,

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Speaker 1: Shout out Penguin Point, Shout out Stonehenge golf Course, shout

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, how about this. I came up with this

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Speaker 2: all on my own. The Bears are open Northern Indiana,

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Speaker 2: but Northern Indiana just closed out the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Eddie Garrison, did you trademark that?

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Speaker 2: No? I can't. I can't trademark that. No.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the Rams tweet?

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. But then they say it's a long walk

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Speaker 1: back to Gary something like that. We've been along those

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Speaker 2: To me, keV right now for Buffalo just seems like

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Speaker 2: they may promote Joe Brady to as the head coach,

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Speaker 2: because I know he's being interviewed already by some teams

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Speaker 2: has you know further the development with josh An. I

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Speaker 2: think there skinning up promoting him and they'll figure out

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. Shane Steikeen is the third

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Speaker 1: longest tenured coach in the AFC. Yeah, Andy Reid, Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 2: It was Demika Ryan's the same coaching cycle called Sheene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Ryan's was the same. Again, you have others

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Speaker 2: That's actually pretty nuts?

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Speaker 1: And hell, Zach Taylor. A lot of people thought Zach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's dive into today's pot. We'll start

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Speaker 2: with the Jim Bob Cooter news. I'm not sure which

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Speaker 2: of the senior NFL insiders had it, but it is

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Speaker 2: reported that he will be interviewing for that offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: vacancy out in Philadelphia with the Eagles. And no surprise there, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: It just seems like whenever they have a vacancy, they

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Speaker 2: hit up Shane Steikeen's coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, obviously there's history there. I should

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Speaker 1: I think any question you have, especially with offensive coordinators,

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: With his bills? One? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Correct if I'm wrong. I didn't Seejim Bob Couter's name anywhere,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you know how many people are getting

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Speaker 1: of an offense that put up a historic too much,

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Speaker 1: you'd at least get an interview. So, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think some of that's just rooted in Hey man, are

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Speaker 1: history there. It could be a play here, So you know,

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Speaker 1: outside of that, I guess anna rum up potentially what Titans?

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Speaker 1: Is that still the only one? I don't know. Would

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Speaker 1: he pop up here in Buffalo?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Obviously with tones see because New York Giants position

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Speaker 1: So I think that, you know, could be a potentially

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Speaker 1: the I mean, the Colts have got to be one

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Speaker 1: of the quietest teams of the entire offseason. I mean

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Speaker 1: when you think about it, you know, he got ten

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Speaker 1: openings and you got what fourteen teams in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and so yeah, we'll await that. But unless you got

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Speaker 1: anything else to add, Eddie I said, we get in

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Speaker 1: these free agents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing to add with Jim Bob Cooter obviously

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Speaker 2: we give him an opportunity to call plays, right because

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Speaker 2: he currently does not do that with the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 2: and Nick Sirianni does not do that anymore with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: So and he did call some place for Stafford in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: you know, so there is some history there, so it's

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Speaker 1: not like totally totally foreign to him. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the Bills could trade for a coach? Oh, trade for

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into it, Kevin, you wrote this up on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had to rank these free AGENTSY be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's exactly how I would put it, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: Let's call it fifty. You're thirteen million over right there,

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Speaker 1: If you've heard it once, you've heard it a thousand times, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: good football for you coming off the bench him and

435
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Speaker 1: out of Tamoa, out of Bar I thought, did a

436
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Speaker 1: nice job this season, so I could be good with

437
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Speaker 1: running the back. You know, Johnson was frequently the guy

438
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Speaker 1: inactive when J C. Tuoy Maloau was not those who

439
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Speaker 1: kind of flip flop do you want the bigger dude

440
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Speaker 1: or the defensive end there? So we'll see that as

441
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Speaker 1: far as defensive end is concerned, Quity Pay, Taekwon, Lewis, Sampson, Ebicom.

442
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Speaker 1: Should any of them be back?

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Speaker 2: I don't think any of them should. Maybe Taekwon just

444
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Speaker 2: because of how much of a voice he is in

445
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Speaker 2: the locker room, how much guys respect him, But outside

446
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Speaker 2: of that, I don't think I would bring any of

447
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Speaker 2: them back. You know.

448
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Speaker 1: The one pause I have is Baller did offer some

449
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Speaker 1: press conference praise for Abu Kom late in the season

450
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Speaker 1: before the knee injury. Do you try to look at

451
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Speaker 1: that and say, hey, he's now two years removed from

452
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Speaker 1: the torn achilles. I'm probably grasping to be honest with

453
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Speaker 1: you there, but I just thought I would mention it. Obviously,

454
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Speaker 1: if you're trying to get younger and faster on defense,

455
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Speaker 1: not a lot of these guys defind that. So I

456
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Speaker 1: hear you out on the Lewis aspect of it. But boy,

457
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Speaker 1: I think if you are committed to doing things differently defensively,

458
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Speaker 1: to some degree, to me, it almost seems like all

459
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Speaker 1: three have got a walk. Now again, if all three walk,

460
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Speaker 1: that's a ton of playing time. You open up and like, who,

461
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden is ascending into that playing time?

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah too, Malowa can only take on so much. So

463
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Speaker 1: you know, this is kind of my rough January nineteenth

464
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Speaker 1: estimate of the offseason, Eddie. But I kind of view

465
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Speaker 1: it like this, Can you go out, can you find

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Speaker 1: a starting defensive en opposie a lot too? Okay, that's

467
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Speaker 1: probably where I put one. Can you go out and

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Speaker 1: find a starting linebacker? Okay, let's two yep. If I'm

469
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Speaker 1: going to go to a third item on the list,

470
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Speaker 1: it would be could you find another in the front seven?

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Speaker 1: You could talk me into some stuff. You could talk

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Speaker 1: me into another linebacker. You could talk me into another

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Speaker 1: defensive end. You could talk me into a defensive tackle,

474
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Speaker 1: given the ages of Buckner and Stewart. But that's kind

475
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Speaker 1: of how I view it. Definitely defensive end, probably linebacker,

476
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Speaker 1: and then is there one more in the front seven?

477
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Speaker 1: Now when we get to safety here, I think that's

478
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Speaker 1: one of the more difficult questions to answer this offseason.

479
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Speaker 1: But that's how I view d line.

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Speaker 2: Now do you say starting linebacker because Jermaine Pratt will

481
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Speaker 2: not be retained since he's a free agent, and the

482
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Speaker 2: future of mister Zeier Franklin is a bit murky.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question. I almost kind of view it

484
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Speaker 1: as an either or situation. Obviously Franklin to be the

485
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Speaker 1: much pricier of the two. I thought Pratt did a

486
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Speaker 1: nice job coming over here. Obviously the Louis An Arumo

487
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Speaker 1: history benefits him. I think he's a I think, you know,

488
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Speaker 1: big fan mutual interest between the two. So yeah, that's

489
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Speaker 1: one I'm a little torn on again, what does it

490
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Speaker 1: look like, you know, would he take a bit of

491
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Speaker 1: a hometown discount for lack of a better term, because

492
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Speaker 1: he has the connection with Anna Rumo? So the easy

493
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Speaker 1: thing to do, Eddie is just send everybody packing. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: but who's waiting in the wing? Is Jalen Carla still

495
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Speaker 1: a thing.

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Speaker 2: Or a great question? You know? So also it makes

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Speaker 2: no sense to me. Now this is totally different in

498
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Speaker 2: not related to what we're talking about terms free agents,

499
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Speaker 2: but the fact that you know, Chris Balad says they

500
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Speaker 2: need to get younger and they need to get faster.

501
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Speaker 2: One of those two things doesn't jive with the defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator younger correct, yeah, correct.

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Speaker 1: And again this is where Eddie, when you get into

504
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Speaker 1: the you know draft pick the second round, the third rounder,

505
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Speaker 1: like you need Okay, think back to the twenty twenty

506
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Speaker 1: two draft. Pierce Jolannie Woods, Ryman Cross. Okay, those are

507
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Speaker 1: the four picks in the first three rounds. If I

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Speaker 1: had to ask you to summarize those four picks, Pierce, Woods, Ryman, Cross,

509
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Speaker 1: how would you summarize it?

510
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Speaker 2: Pierce, Ryman, and Cross.

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Speaker 1: Pierce at Woods is the other one. So those are

512
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Speaker 1: the four picks. Like, if you just had to summarize

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Speaker 1: that that draft, the early part of that.

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Speaker 2: Draft, thought you did a really good job.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. But then if we took it

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Speaker 1: a step further and if I said.

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Speaker 2: You also have to remember that they traded a pick

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Speaker 2: for n Across.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm actually not not going there for a second.

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Speaker 1: But if I took a step further and said, what

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Speaker 1: would you have said after their rookie seasons.

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Speaker 2: Well, for sure you would have said that, you know,

523
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Speaker 2: Ballard and messed up all most of those picks. I

524
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Speaker 2: would say that Ryman was the one that wasn't a

525
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Speaker 2: miss at the time.

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Speaker 1: Right, But even him you know, you weren't one hundred

527
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Speaker 1: percent sure on it like Pierce. Obviously you weren't a

528
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Speaker 1: hundred percent sure Across wasn't really playing. You would might

529
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Speaker 1: have been, honestly the best one yeah had of those rookies.

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Speaker 1: So I bring that up just to say you, with

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Speaker 1: how you're banking on this year and the high sense

532
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Speaker 1: of urgency and the need for instant impact, you can't

533
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Speaker 1: have a twenty twenty two draft class. The twenty twenty

534
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Speaker 1: two draft class eventually got there, but in year one

535
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Speaker 1: it didn't get there. I'm gonna steal a phrase from Kurtzignetty,

536
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Speaker 1: this draft class has got to be about production more

537
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Speaker 1: than potential. Yeah, period. And that goes against a lot

538
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Speaker 1: of Chris Bowards m frankly when it comes to drafting. Yeah,

539
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Speaker 1: but that's just the reality of where you're at. And

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Speaker 1: this all comes back to the lu Anarumo point that

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Speaker 1: you just brought up about. You know, is he willing

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Speaker 1: to get younger and play younger. That's a different animal

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The final pair of free agents for the Cults

545
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Speaker 2: are both at safety, Nick Cross and Rodney Thomas.

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Speaker 1: The second how many times do you forget rounding Thomas.

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Speaker 2: The second is on the Colts. Well, I'd see him

548
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Speaker 2: a handful of times on special teams making tackles, so

549
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Speaker 2: because I swear there would be days of practice once

550
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Speaker 2: every three games. Gosh, there he is.

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Speaker 1: Number twenty five. I forgot about it. I think net

552
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Speaker 1: Cross is the most interesting free agent on the list.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: You drafted him knowing that there probably would need to

555
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Speaker 1: be some assent to his game. Has he ascended? I

556
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Speaker 1: think he has. But at the same time, when you

557
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Speaker 1: look at safety right now, didn't you already pay cam

558
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Speaker 1: bind them notable money?

559
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

560
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Speaker 1: Can you afford to pay two safeties notable money?

561
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Speaker 2: Now?

562
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Speaker 1: Look around the NFL as is it a premium or

563
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Speaker 1: a luxury? Right? It's a great point. Now look around

564
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Speaker 1: the NFL. The safety market has been a heavily debated thing,

565
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Speaker 1: like do.

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Speaker 2: You need those cookies or do you want those cookies?

567
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's always one for me. Man, Lord knows

568
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Speaker 1: I don't need them. But man, I just cave. No

569
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Speaker 1: one has worst payer pressure than I is the safety

570
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Speaker 1: market robust. Think back to Julian Blackman's free agency a

571
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Speaker 1: few years ago. He was pissed, right, he thought it'd

572
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Speaker 1: be a little bit more robust form and Blackman is

573
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Speaker 1: a field you know, free safety. Cross is probably more

574
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Speaker 1: of a box guy, which I think the box safeties

575
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Speaker 1: are a little bit more of a dying breed. So

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Speaker 1: I think these are all factors now. Louanna Roumo's defense

577
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Speaker 1: when they were good in Cincinnati, didn't they have pretty

578
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Speaker 1: good safety play?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? With Jesse Bates, I can't. This is von bell

580
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Speaker 2: or safety.

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Speaker 1: And the last thing I would add on this is

582
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Speaker 1: if you let Nick Cross walk, who's your starting safeties

583
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Speaker 1: next year? Yeah, that might be the driest position in

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Speaker 1: terms of depth of any on the roster.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: So that's where I'm very torn on it. Now. Again,

587
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Speaker 1: Cross is gonna get double digit million, right, I.

588
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Speaker 2: Mean there is a it's a pretty it's a pretty lengthy,

589
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Speaker 2: uh safety class.

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: Which is another thing.

593
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: Kyle Duggar, Jimmy Ward's a free agent, Andre Cisco, Kevin

594
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: bayerd Gino Stone, Cameron Curl. Did you say Jimmy Ward?

595
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: How old is he?

596
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

597
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: Thirty four and a half. Cam Curl with the with

598
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Speaker 2: the Rams who had that pick you know in the

599
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 2: playoff game read blanket chips another one. So like there's

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Speaker 2: some guys on here who are Andre Winger, Julian Blackman.

601
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Speaker 2: Obviously there are some guys on here that are starters

602
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Speaker 2: that will be available as well.

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Speaker 1: So again, safety to me is a really difficult one.

604
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Speaker 1: And again, how do you try and create more on

605
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Speaker 1: the cap front? I think that is a huge, huge

606
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Speaker 1: question here as we get into more of the off season.

607
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're ready for Twitter questions? You have everything else

608
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Speaker 2: to add on the Colts free agents?

609
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think I'm good man. You got

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Speaker 1: any more?

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Speaker 2: I've got nothing. So let's dive into today's Twitter questions

612
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Speaker 2: only four to get to Zach. What if Carl erc

613
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Speaker 2: Gordon knows the Colts are not attractive job right now

614
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Speaker 2: with the lack of quarterbacks, slash draft capital, slash aging roster,

615
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Speaker 2: and is choosing to run it back with Ballard for

616
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Speaker 2: another season or two to improve the optics of the

617
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Speaker 2: job for potential general manager or head coach candidates in

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Speaker 2: the future off seasons as as much as most of

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Speaker 2: the year all want Ballard gone. The Cults are not

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Speaker 2: a top job this cycle. It would not get the

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Speaker 2: John Harball caliber coach or general manager. Eddie.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really interesting point Zach brings up

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Speaker 1: and let me start here. Do you think this should

624
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Speaker 1: be a major factor in how organizations.

625
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Speaker 2: Operate, should be a major factor what the.

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Speaker 1: Pool of candidates looks like, or do you think it

627
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: should be more rooted in you need to evaluate your

628
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Speaker 1: own in house person and you know, just find somebody.

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Speaker 2: So, how many openings have come after the season ended? Miami, Buffalo?

630
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it weren't Killenberg the only two interim

631
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Speaker 1: coaches we had over Tennessee in New York? Is that right?

632
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Speaker 2: Right? But I'm saying like after that Black Monday, so

633
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Speaker 2: like the week number two of the off season for

634
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Speaker 2: most of the league, because most you see most of

635
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Speaker 2: the firings on that Monday after Week eighteen. Yeah, So

636
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Speaker 2: well you got Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Miami. So there's three of

637
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Speaker 2: the ten, right, that all came after the year after

638
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Speaker 2: I mean post started regular or postseason onward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that sounds right.

640
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Speaker 2: So when she made the decision in week seventeen to

641
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Speaker 2: tell Chris Ballad and Shane psych and they were being

642
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Speaker 2: brought back, I think she had any inclination that those

643
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Speaker 2: jobs would be open.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's part of it. It's like well,

645
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Speaker 1: when you're in those positions, you know, part of it is, hey,

646
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Speaker 1: you need to be able to have a pulse around

647
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: the league. Gauge a little bit of that. But I

648
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Speaker 1: get some of this is, you know, pretty secretive from

649
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, I'm kind of brought up to

650
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: the EU basketball state of it right now, Eddie of like,

651
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: what if they would have fired Mike Woodson one year earlier?

652
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Speaker 1: Is Dusty May and Bloomington? You know, I think that

653
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: is like something that's kind of at play here, and

654
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, Zach lays out reasons that I do sit

655
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: here and kind of not in my head, but it's like, well,

656
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: damn is that a reason to retain though? And I mean,

657
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: how much of a better job are they next year?

658
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: Are you better? Your core is even more aging theoretically,

659
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: like let's say you get to this, let's say eight

660
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: to nine again, miss the playoffs again, you still don't

661
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: have a first round pick. I would argue the tradable

662
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: assets on your roster or older, you know, how much

663
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: of it is a better situation. I guess you're one

664
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: step closer to having your first round pick again, so

665
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: maybe that's better aspect of it. But I don't know, Zach,

666
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: I guess to answer it, I don't really think the

667
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: lack of pool of candidates, if you want to label it,

668
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: that was at play. I don't think that was necessarily

669
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: on her mind. Now again, is there a financial element

670
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: of paying staffs, multiple staffs, GM, scouting staff, coach, head

671
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Yeah, I do think that is something that

672
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: potentially could be at play here. So, you know, those

673
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: are all questions that I think are fair, But I

674
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just kind of torn on the you

675
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: retain because you're disgusted with what's out there, Like, I

676
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that like ten openings and

677
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: are all ten of these going to be swings and missus?

678
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean not all obviously all of them are going

679
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: to be hits. But you know who was the last

680
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: head coach hired last cycle? Was it Liam Cohen?

681
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: Yep?

682
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: You know it turned out to be a pretty good coach, right, Yeah,

683
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: So it's a fair points act brings up. I don't

684
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: think it's necessarily at play here for Carlier, say, to

685
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: be totally honest with you, and I'm also not totally

686
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: sold on the you know what all of a sudden

687
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: makes the Colts attracted one to two years down the road.

688
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: I mean, now Atlanta fire their coach, and their quarterback

689
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: situation is just as up in the year as the Colts,

690
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: and they don't have a first round pick.

691
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: This year, right, Kevin Stefanski on paper seems to be

692
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: a good hire. Again, you can debate that, but yeah.

693
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: You think the decision for retaining all parties for the

694
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Colts is the fact that there's not the Sam Dunk.

695
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: No, to be clear, I don't What I'm questioning is

696
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: should that be a factor, Like there's plenty of evidence

697
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: to fire Chris Ballard, Yeah, plenty, but should that be

698
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: more at stake? And again, we we played the coaching

699
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: higher game seemingly every offseason. Who's the camp miss prospect?

700
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Who is you know, the best candidate? You know all

701
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: of that, and you know how many times did the

702
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: Belichick tree get tapped into and it never worked out?

703
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: You know it just you know, who would have thought

704
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: that Dan Campbell would have been a successful head coach?

705
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: You know, the Colts interviewed him in twenty eighteen with

706
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: Frank Reich and Leslie Frasier there, So I just I

707
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: mean coaching, I mean, I think coaching ires are very,

708
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: very difficult.

709
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

710
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm probably rambling a little bit here, so let's just

711
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: move on. Before I continue to ramble.

712
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: Isaac would like to know do you think Riley Leonard

713
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: could actually develop into a starting quarterback.

714
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I don't I'm still probably on

715
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: the pause. And if you know he can be a

716
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: starting level franchise quarterback, you know, I'm sure I echoed

717
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: this when Ryle Leonard was drafted. I think he has

718
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: some ideal developmental traits. He's tough, he's a good leader,

719
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: he can make place with his legs, he wants to

720
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: be good. All of that is really coveted. But again,

721
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: he also fell to round six for a reason. I

722
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: think mostly it comes down to Kenny delivered from the

723
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: pocket routinely, which you know, again small sample size. If

724
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: on in Week seventeen he did that more than anything. And

725
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: another question for Ryley Leonard to Eddie is like, can

726
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: you stay healthy? His collegiate career had a lot of injuries. Yeah,

727
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: and if you look at his NFL career so far,

728
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean he got banged up in the Jacksonville game,

729
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know I felt like there were some

730
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: times in that Houston game he was kind of limping around,

731
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: So you know, again, that's more of a bigger picture

732
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: question if he's starting, you know, two three months in

733
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: a row there. But yeah, I Isaac, I don't I

734
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: don't think you put eggs in the Ryley Leander basket

735
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: of like, oh my gosh, give him a chance to start.

736
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: But I think you want to continue to keep him

737
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: and continue to try and grow him and you know,

738
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: see what he can turn into, because again, there's a

739
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: lot of traits that you like about him.

740
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, two questions left. Brett KD. Put yourself

741
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: in the shoes of Carl Erse Gordon for a moment

742
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: and try to think through what the franchise is selling

743
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: fans on in next year and the following season. It's

744
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: a genuine question because I don't think I felt this

745
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 2: dejected as a Colts fan since the day Andrew Luck

746
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: retired personally, despite the horrible streak of bad luck in

747
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: the back half of the season, I feel there's just

748
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: no way to invigorate life into the fan base with

749
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: the current regime.

750
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, what you are trying to sell

751
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: on is two months.

752
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: Right, I mean they're eight and two, right, that's what you're.

753
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: Trying to sell on, you know that? And what's the

754
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: realistic window?

755
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: Now?

756
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: You know, I think we talked about this era like

757
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: a Sauce Gardener trade window, and now I'm kind of

758
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: looking at it as like you have one maybe stretch

759
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: into two. That's probably how i'd view this window. Yeah,

760
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: and that's that has less to do with like sauce

761
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: Gardener than has to do with I just think your

762
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: core is getting old. That's how I would look at

763
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: it older. So again, how much of this can be

764
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: a big thing? And you know, the Daniel Jones injury

765
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: situation that could obviously put a dent into how much

766
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty sixth season is you know window

767
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: open for this? But yeah, I mean, I you know,

768
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: this general tone is probably what I hear a lot.

769
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: Now.

770
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: I've also heard from some people that are like, wait,

771
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: wait a minute, if you strip it down, you're gonna

772
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: get a lot worse. You know, basically by making this move,

773
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: as carli Ersa Gordon saying, hey, we're at least keeping

774
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: the floor high higher, that's probably true. But this is

775
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: maybe where I differ from some of my colleagues of like,

776
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, hey, if you all of a sudden, you know,

777
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: really strip it down and fire everybody, you're gonna get

778
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: bad or real quick. To me, the rebuild ain't too

779
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: bad if you can get back there. Yeah, you know,

780
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: I think New England probably happily did the drake manything.

781
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty content with where they're at right now.

782
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: So I would argue eleven years without division title, eight

783
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: years without a playoff win, five years of playoff appearance.

784
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: I would argue that brass is pretty, that grass is

785
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: pretty damn brown.

786
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. The final question is from Colton, and we kind

787
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: of already answered one of these. What is the most

788
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: you would pay to resign alec pears in it and

789
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: it cross?

790
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I'd paid good amount to ressign Pierce. You know again,

791
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: would I franchise tag it and then maybe try long

792
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: term deal it down the road? That's probably the route

793
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: I would go across. I'm just finding it hard man.

794
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: What was buying them per year? Was it fifteen million?

795
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: Is it four for sixty for buying them? And ward

796
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: is three for sixty.

797
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: Four for sixty for buying them?

798
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, I just I'm finding it hard to get to.

799
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: That level thirty million guaranteed.

800
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: You know, again, if you're doing this math here, what

801
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: do we say sixty three earlier? Jones thirty five, Pierce

802
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight, let's just call Cross ten. That's seventy three million.

803
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's twenty million over your current cap.

804
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, forty one point seven in terms of cap.

805
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I saw a number. It was north

806
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: of fifty. But still, I mean, if you don't go

807
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: off that number, that's even worse. But if you go

808
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: off mine, it's there. I think one thing you have

809
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: to expect to is this. You went out last offseason

810
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: and you addressed you know, you spent big with Cam

811
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: cam Ward. You spent big with Moody Ward and Cam

812
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: buying them.

813
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: Yep.

814
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: My question is can you add the equivalent of those

815
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: two to the front seven to the front seven. Can

816
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: you go out, can you find award? Can you find

817
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: a buying them for the front seven? Yeah, and again

818
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I know it's not exactly apples to apples. Perhaps one

819
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: of that is an instant draft pick, which you know,

820
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: of course, is you're banking on a lot when it's

821
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: picked fifty something, or if it's pick you know whatever,

822
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: the third round pick is going to be there, but

823
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: that would be my question for this offseason.

824
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. So to conclude the Pod Kevin, something

825
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: that we didn't touch on in the previous thirty eight minutes,

826
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 2: there was some Colts news on Friday that they will

827
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: no longer be doing training camp from Grand Park in Westfield.

828
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: Starting in twenty twenty seven, they will join twenty six

829
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: other NFL teams and having their own training camp from

830
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 2: their own complex. For lack of a better.

831
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Speaker 1: Word, yeah, yeah, I was a little bummed by this.

832
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: You know, I love that the Colts did this for

833
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: so long, and I get they were in the minority. Honestly,

834
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: the Colts deserve credit for how long they held on

835
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: to the off site camp. I mean, Eddie, you've been

836
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: at Grand Park. It's incredible the amount of access.

837
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, whether you know, if.

838
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: They were in the Big Stadium at Rose Holman and

839
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: the Big Stadium and Anderson, you know, you got a

840
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: track between you in the field. I mean, you're you're

841
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: good ways away, Whereas when you're at Grand Park, I

842
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: mean you're from me to you to some of these

843
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: players at times here. So and it was very affordable.

844
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: I mean the majority of those practices are free. You're

845
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: paying what five ten bucks for parking. I mean, it's

846
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: just crazy access that you have there. From what I understand,

847
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: this was originally a ten year deal I believe through

848
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, and I think started in twenty twenty two. Eddie,

849
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: the Colts had eighteen month opt outs, so that's what

850
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: they're executing here. I assume this is the eighteen month

851
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: opt out. You know, you're committed twenty twenty six, but

852
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: you won't be there in twenty twenty seven, so it

853
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: ends I guess a little bit early on it. I mean, again,

854
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: I understand logistically technologically we're seeing the rest of the NFL.

855
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: I was always struck by this. It was always very

856
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: impressive to me when other NFL teams would come here

857
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: for joint practices, how much they'd be blown away by

858
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: the facility. I mean, the Colts seemingly had to joint

859
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: practice every year at Grand Park with a variety of teams.

860
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: So again I get it. I understand it. You know,

861
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: COVID year is back at the complex. I want to

862
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: say twenty seventeen. Maybe Ballard's first year I think was

863
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: also at the Complex mcgonald's last year. I don't know

864
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: how much this is a financial thing. I don't pretend

865
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: to know everything on that aspect of it. But yeah,

866
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm just a little bunn. I get it. I understand it.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: The Colts deserve credit because they held on for so long.

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Speaker 1: But I wish NFL teams who would do this more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think they do?

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Speaker 1: They do like a practice of Butler, a practice at Undy,

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Speaker 1: a practice of Lucas Oil.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure Lucas Soil would probably be back on

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Speaker 2: the tailor, right that used to do one of those.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, they did one of those in the spring too.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing like a reward the small colleges

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Speaker 1: in town. I wouldn't mind seeing like a three night

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Speaker 1: practice rotation Mary Uh, Marion, Butler, Undy or Hell, if

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Speaker 1: you want to go to the north side, go to

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Speaker 1: Carmel or Westfield.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, just do that. I think those are really

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Speaker 1: cool venues, some of those college venues. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think I could be fun for you know, people from

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Speaker 1: around town.

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Speaker 2: Especially how much of a success that night practice was

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Speaker 2: this past year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, you do three of those and

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Speaker 1: I get Also, training camps are starting to shrink, like

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Speaker 1: the sheer numbers. Yeah, of practice, I mean, how many

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Speaker 1: did they have this year?

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Speaker 2: Like twelve? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that that is at play as well.

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Speaker 2: Final score prediction for tonight Miami IU.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again, I think Miami's girlfriend crazy. I think I

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Speaker 1: think they they keep it entertaining. I thought Indiana would

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Speaker 1: cruise Alabama role Alabama. Frankly, I thought they would win

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Speaker 1: comfortably ore Again. Obviously, I don't want to pretend I

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Speaker 1: expected thirty point wins. But and now I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: going the reverse.

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Speaker 2: Now. I'm like, and.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because we've talked about this game endlessly

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Speaker 1: Atiot's like Theosmism's football, but didn't Miami. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you want to compare common opponent, And I've got a

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Speaker 1: buddy of mine of works for the Miami Athletic department,

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Speaker 1: so he's been in my ear a lot, and he

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Speaker 1: keeps on bringing out this. Let's compare the Ohio State games.

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Speaker 1: Who beat Ohio State better more and more emphatically Miami?

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Speaker 1: Right right now, it's one opponent. Why should I put

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Speaker 1: so much stock into that?

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Speaker 2: And you're coming off the week off or the month

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Speaker 2: off for Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, was that a play there? But I

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Speaker 1: just think Tony, I know this sounds very simple, but

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Speaker 1: like Malchay, Tony, I really like Mark Fletcher and yes,

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Speaker 1: and of course Baye and Mesador. I mean, they just

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Speaker 1: have some individual dudes that can go flip a game, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or flip a quarter you know, if you don't want

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Speaker 1: to say game, they could flip a series. Where as

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Speaker 1: I think, you know Indiana for the most part. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, you've obviously hit some big plays with Becker

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Speaker 1: and things like that, but and he has a little

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Speaker 1: bit more on the methodical side driving the football. But

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Speaker 1: I'll say twenty seven to twenty three a.

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Speaker 2: You and it's the most experienced quarterback they'll face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not sold.

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Speaker 2: I'm back.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm still not. I know. I know he's

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Speaker 1: seen a lot of football. He just gives me bad vibes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm being too mean to him. Yeah, I'll go twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to twenty three. What do you got, I was

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Speaker 1: going twenty seven to twenty four. Oh okay, so you

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Speaker 1: and I are on the same boat here, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: although I could, I mean, I assume you're picking Indiana.

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Speaker 2: I am, Yeah, Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 1: At a garrison. I'm Kevin Bowen. Everybody have a great week,

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Speaker 1: Monday Tuesdays again. We'll continue to shoot for that throughout

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Speaker 1: the off season and we'll talk to you next week.